Illusions on a Double Dimple (Triumvirat) Reaction & Analysis | The Daily Doug (Episode 445)
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2022
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In this episode of #thedailydoug, I'm reacting and listening to music from Triumvirat for the first time. This selection, Illusions on a Double Dimple, comes to us from Ray, who serves as our Guest DJ today. I found this suite to be a fascinating pastiche of several prog styles, blending together elements of ELP and Yes and The Nice and others. I was also struck by the tone of the musical sounds as compared to the bitter and sad tale contained in the lyrics. I hope you enjoy!
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We don’t recall who or where, but a prog critic once referred to Triumvirat as has having made 2 of ELP’s 5 best albums.
Lol, it’s true.
Abso freaking lutely. Spartacus..... Capitol of Power, ELP should have covered it. ({-;)
@@Hellyaman yes, it is.
Great description. I had most of ELP's albums--up to the bloated Works, and as much as I loved them, many were uneven affairs. Triumvirat was more structured, mainly due to their more straight-ahead drummer. Hans Bathelt. Carl Palmer, on the other hand, played much busier, IMO. (Triumvirat later got the fabulous Curt Cress on the kit.)
Triumvirat were definitely cast from the ELP mold, but without the bombast.
I played "Illusions on a Double Dimple" until the vinyl began to develop scratches and pops.
Loved your reactions to hearing this for the 1st time! Now go and listen to Old Loves Die Hard. A brilliant masterpiece!
Spartacus was a big hit in Brazil, where I grew up. It was one of my first progressive rock albums back then. It was followed by Genesis... and the rest is history.
The three records with mouses are the best of Triiumvirat: Illusions, Spartacus and Old loves. A nice underated band.
Pompeii also has nice moments, but I agree with you.
Concordo!
Triumvirat copiava ELP descaradamente. Mas fazia isso com tal competência, que era divertido e muito acima da média na época, que por sinal já era bem elevada. E como comentou um colega aí, sempre no K7 !!!
Actually, I think they supposed to be rats. But you can't fit a rat into an eggshell.
You should check out an album of theirs called Spartacus. I see the entire album as one piece. Back in the late 70s I recorded the entire album as a single piece on a cassette and would take LSD and listen to it. It is broken into multiple songs but as a whole tells a story and that's how I listen to it even now , without the drugs.
I saw Kirk Douglas holding the Spartacus lp in Rolling Stone in the mid 70s.
Spartacus is just the ultimate!!! It even sounds militant. I just wish they had made a great "live" album, but most sound like bootlegs.
Spartacus was a fantastic album. Listened to it yesterday. Old Loves Die Hard is also an outstanding album. Pompeii was a little week but I love it anyways.
Triumvirat, "the German Emerson, Lake & Palmer," were terrific in this incarnation of Fritz, Bathelt and Kollen (although Hans Pape, the band's original bassist, plays on most of this track). They should be better-remembered than they are today.
Triumvirat were one of those, "oh look who I discovered" kind of band back in the day. Very ELP-ish but very listenable.
Born and grown up just 50 Miles away from the Hans-Jürgen Fritz town Cologne, Germany, the only radio-station playing Triumvirat was BFBS (British Forces Broadcasting Service) in Cologne! And they wre flashed by this band since their first album!
Yes!!!! TRIUMVIRAT!!!!!
Great to hear this again it's been many years
@@jaywilson4578 Ray S got me into them. Once I heard them, I was like...
"Wait. What? Wait. What the fuhh!??"
I was floored. Like "where has this band been all my life?!?" I hope all the viewers today feel the same if they're not familiar already!
#triumvirat!!
Haven't listened to Triumvirat in decades. This has been like listening to them with fresh new ears. My Triumvirat phase was interrupted by TOOL I think. Back then I was much like Doug is now. New music and bands coming at me from all directions. 😎
@@memelordmark7532 TooL interrupted a lot of us. Maynard has that gift 😏
This is certainly a surprise. Triumvirat are such an underrated prog band that never gets the recognition they deserve. I'm really glad to see you doing a reaction and break down of one of their best pieces of music. I hope to see more of them on this channel.
I know the group, from their excellent 'Spartacus' album! It was nice discovering 'Double Dimple' along with you!
I saw them perform this in 1975
Love this band. Do Spartacus next ! 👍
I still have the original vinyl and have been a fan since hearing ‘Spartacus’ on Connecticut FM radio in the mid seventies. Thanks for bringing this excellent (well, until ‘A La Carte’) band to new ears.
Small world Doug. I have a USB drive in my car right now with all their CD's loaded onto. Played some earlier today. Spartacus is a must listen. Small world.
I always enjoy seeing reactions to Triumvirat. They should've been more popular. Since you enjoyed this, you'd also be pleased with the album Sparticus". Really, great. Those two are most fan's favorites. Their first five albums are all pretty good. The quality dropped with album 6 and especially 7. Then they pretty much vanished.
Spartacus is good too. I got to watch them rehearse when they were renting a local hall during the off season. My friend and I would go over there after school and just walk in and sit down. We were teens.
I bought Spartacus 47 years ago this week, and this second Triumvirat a few months later. Thanks to my local FM playing a a tracks off both, I was enthused in my mid teens and even played a lot off the first 4 albums on my high school radio station program. It still sounds great decades later- despite the Fritz smaltz that would eventually become dominant in the band's last few albums. I hoped you would review this, so thank you again Doug! Some time in the future review Spartacus, at least the title track! Hans Bathelt was amazing percussive (& lyrical) talent indeed!
This is a great album and I've owned it since it first was released. Glad you got turned on to it. You should have done the entire album! 😀
I haven't played this album in awhile. I need to dig it out! Although I must admit that apparently I never paid much attention to the lyrics. I just loved the instrumental work.
Loved Triumvirate back in the 70s. Really liked the Pompeii album. Jurgen Fritz was never at a loss for a melody.
Triumvirat is one of my great finds at the ole record store of the long past. They did an album titled "Sparticus" If you can get your hands on it, give it a First Listen review. You won't be disappointed. BTW - After so many reviews, listens, and such, you're still astounding me with insight. I can't sight read at all so your ear continues to fascinate me. Thank's being Daily Doug.
I can't comment enough about this recording. They had their own sound and the way that the piece was put together for me was brilliance personified!!!! 😀
Wow Doug! What a splendid surprise this is to see on your channel! I love this album to bits and while the first track is stellar, the second one - "Mister Ten Percent" - is just the peak of phenomenal prog composing
Glad to see another avid fan!
@@rays7805 I actually reviewed it at the start of the year on my series, and I can't stop listening to it since!
@@lesblatnyak5947 I couldn't imagine a stronger duo even in my dreams :P
Mister 10 Percent is Triumvirat at its peak, with Kôllen on bass instead of Pape, who plays on the first side of the album.
I am glad to see some fans of this band are still around!
@@rays7805 I’m also another one. In the ages of 73-74, my schoolmates all loved them.
I am so happy you did Illusions. It’s been one of my favorites for decades. I know Juergen Fritz was a huge fan of Keith Emerson. But, to me, this album (albeit the ELP and Yes inspirations) truly forever defined progressive rock for all time. I think this album - and Spartacus - is equal to or better than most of what ELP recorded. There is scant information on the players. I wish I knew more about them. Oh, side 2 of Illusions- IMO - is even better. I hope you do a Daily Doug on that one, too.
Please, please do a reaction to the studio version of Spartacus. Your comments about the disconnect between the feel of the music and the story for Illusions was spot on. I think you will see a complete alignment between the music, the feel of the music, and the story with Spartacus.
Now this a very excellent surprise! Great album by a great and very under appreciated band. Never gets old. They could hold their own against ELP, Yes, etc…. And you are absolutely correct: Hans Bathelt is one hell of a percussionist. Finish off the album (Mr. Ten Percent) and then do Spartacus. You will be happy you did so!
Finally, Triumvirat is an excellent band that got overlooked by the media and general public because it sounded a little like ELP, but that are many differences between both bands if you listen to it closely. I am glad that you dig this out.
You mean you are “glad the he Doug this out.” Sorry for the bad dad joke.
That one's a pleasant surprise to see coming up. I actually find Triumvirat mainly more accessible than ELP.
I discovered them a few years ago through a Mike Oldfield connection, Barry Palmer, who sang on quite a few of Oldfield's early 1980s' tracks and was a member of Triumvirat between 1976 and 1978.
If I recall correctly, Helmut Kollen didn't speak English so Hans Bathelt had to write the lyrics phonetically for him to sing....
Always fun to see a review/reaction to one of the more obscure prog favorites! :-) Like other's have said I think Spartacus is their finest album but when I originally got it in the mid 70's I was emotionally torn because while it was very well written, performed, and recorded, it so SO ELP to the point of moments of direct copying that I felt "defensive" and questioned if I "should allow myself" to like it because I was so much of a mega ELP fan at the time! 😡😆 (to me Triumvirat was to ELP as Starcastle was to Yes) Anyways, Spartacus is a great listen all the way through but if you want just one song off of it I'd recommend "The March To The Eternal City" as it wonderfully composed and one of the most original sounding on the album (it's under 9 minutes long). 👌🥰
Wow! Digging out this wonderful piece of West German prog - great interpretation/view on this song by Doug.
Thanks a lot!
Great analysis, musically and lyrically. I never thought of "Last Dance" being equated to Zorba the Greek doing his dance in the face of utter failure. Fun to hear this again.
Triumvirat's Spartacus album (written and recorded by the same musicians) was their better selling album in the U.S. - it tells a more clearly defined historical story, also about utter failure, that would take a couple of album sides, but well worth it.
I always thought that the title "Last Dance" hinted that the protagonist, seeing himself unfairly trapped in poverty, committed suicide.
I actually like this as much as if not more than Karn Evil 9 and anything else ELP did.
I can only encourage you to continue to think outside the box. I have long wanted to see you more adventurous and, among others, on the side of exceptional but unjustly neglected or forgotten groups, such as Hawkwind, Le Orme, Gary Moore ("The Messiah will return", live in Montreux, 1990), Arena, Triumvirat, Sons of Apollo, Joe Louis Walker ("Hallways"), Pendragon, Eloy, Harmonium ("Comme un Fou", "Comme un Sage" or "Depuis l'automne"), IQ, Strawbs, Coheed and Cambria , Garland Jeffreys ("Spanish Town"), Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Gong, Luca Turilli's Rhapsody, Meat Loaf (and his brilliant composer, Jim Steinman), Therion, Gorod ("Transcendence"), Ozric Tentacles, Coda, Loggins & Messina ("Pathway to Glory"), PFM (Premiata Forneria Marconi), Shining (the Swedish band, not the Norwegian band), Carlos Santana (for the "Caravanserai" album), Mago de Oz, Paradise Lost, Iced Earth, Traffic ( "The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys", with Steve Winwood on keyboards, vocals and lyricist), Mystery, MoonSpell, Beach Boys ("God Only Knows" and "Good Vibrations"), Powerwolf, Chris Rea ("Tell me there's a heaven"), Liquid Tension Experiment, Epica, The Derek Trucks Band (or Tedeschi Trucks Band), U.K. (with Bill Bruford and John Wetton), The Mars Volta (Zappaist band, particularly audible on the album 'Amputechture')... I'll stop there. I am delighted that today you have dared TRIUMVIRAT. The concept album "Spartacus" is the masterpiece of this band. Don't hesitate to listen to it. Outstanding instrumental and orchestral virtuosity. Thank you, Master Helvering.
When I listened to this at 19, I never even knew it was in Mixolydian or Phrygian modes. How did I continue so blindly? I could sense the modal changes nonetheless. I'd usually hear it after hearing smoke on the water, and coughing. || The ironic upbeat nature of the song may subtly allude to a bit of wisdom from Oscar Wilde, who counseled: "“If you want to be a grocer, or a general, or a politician, or a judge, you will invariably become it; that is your punishment. If you never know what you want to be, if you live what some might call the dynamic life but what I will call the artistic life, if each day you are unsure of who you are and what you know you will never become anything, and that is your reward.”"
Holy shit, Doug. I've had it on CD for a long time...went to a store closing their doors forever, so I found this on vinyl. Such a fantastic find. Love these guys. I can't actually believe anyone would react to this. Man, I love it.
I SAW THESE GUYS! It was maybe 1975 in Kiel Auditorium in St Louis. The local rock station (KSHE) played the shite out of Illusions and I went to see them when they were touring the next album, Spartacus. They were really good in concert. I had completely forgotten Triumvirat until you made this video. Thanks!😊
People always regard the "Spartacus" and "Illusions...", but rarely I see the first album mentioned... I do like their first album, too... the "Mediterranean Tales"... dates from 1972.
One of the later drummers, Matthias Holtmann, became a very influential radio senior editor (for SWR3, the largest german regional state radio station). He succeeded, among others, Curt Cress, of Klaus Doldinger Jazz fame on the drums. Holtmann was arguably one of the most influential radio personalities, inventing and producing new formats in the 80's and 90's. He was born 1950 and retired dutifully at 65 after a several year long bout with Parkinsons.
I just have to say your taste in both music and whiskey are impeccable. ;)
Nice choice! I've not listened to this for about 45 years. As for context, you might look at what was going on at the time. Politically, socially and economically there were lots of harsh grim and ugly things occurring everywhere. At the same time lots of new technology, ideas and feats were occurring as well. Nearly all the musicians of that era were born during or just after WWII, the after effects massively impacted their lives in one form or another. Looking from today's perspective it's easy to miss the background to what the reality of that time was.
Now you got that far, "Pompeii" by New Triumvirat is mandatory.
To me "Spartacus" is their best album, to my humble meaning.
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Another band that had a heavy ELP influence was Cairo, who did 3 albums on Magna Carta records and were active between 1993 - 2001. The keyboard player, Mark Robertson, was (is?) an insanely great Emerson-esque player. Anyone looking for ELP like prog should check them out.
I got their cds.
So happy to watch you react to a terrific, yet underrated band. We need more german bands here! I recommend Eloy (Album: Ocean) and Grobschnitt (Album: Rockpommel's Land).
Maybe this is my interpretation, but I find the "funny, joyful" melodies quite ironic. That is something you find a lot is some bands, I would say.
Played this alot on the air while working at a college radio station......provided a great bathroom/doobie break
Thanks for taking on Triumvirat!
Now, they did try to come back in the early 2000s. They had a new singer named Grant Stevens, who sounded a lot like Freddie Mercury, though not as strong. They recorded this album, The Book of Life, Part 1: The Website Story (presumably a play on Westside Story). They teased a few minutes of a song called "Just a Face", and released a free download of another song called "The Chips Lay Down to Die". Wasn't great, but hey, it was going to be the return of Triumvirat. It was supposed to be the first album in a trilogy. And then it fell through. It never came out, to this day.
Got to listen to the B side of this album...Mister 10%.Spartacus was a great album,you can feel the march of the slaves and gladiators...
One of my favorite albums- still play it a lot. I think this is better than Spartacus, which I also like a lot. Mexican TV stations used many short clips of this album when cutting into adds or coming from adds.
Doug, I love your album reviews. How about The Who - Quadrophenia. A double album so quite a project but it's a fantastic story and Townsend's use of ambient sounds throughout is magnificent.
If I didn't know which band it was, I would have thought of an unreleased album of ELP or something! The influence is incredible, especially on keyboard and drums. Great stuff, Doug, thank you!!!
I bought this album in 1975. I played the grooves out of it. Spartacus is just as good. You should do that one next, Doug.
I had the 8 track and never knew what it meant dimple whiskey 🥃 double please
Amazing video Doug!!!! I picked up this album shortly after it's release. The drumming was the first thing I noticed. The actual sound of the drums is amazing!!! This is one of the most incredible recordings I have ever heard. Nektar's album remember the future should be on your shortlist. Came out around the same time. Another excellent album!!! 😀👍👍
This stuff if BLOWING ME AWAY! Being a huge ELP fan, in the mid-'70s I searched for similar bands, discovered Triumvirat and loved them. Thanks for commenting on the "great riff" and "cool sound" - a too snobby buddy of mine back then claimed they were just "6th grade riffs."
I had this LP when I was a student, it accompanied me revising for a number of exams!
How cool to see Doug getting into Krautrock! Let's come with suggestions from the german music scene of the 70s! Anyone 's Daughter, Novalis, Grobschnitt...
I mentioned Novalis in a thread above. Holderlin is another great German band.
If anyone were to ask me what progressive rock is, this is the song I think of. Should get into more Krautrock. Some great stuff. Novalis, Eloy, Guru Guru, Jane, Grobschnitt, Amon Duul II, Can...they’re all great bands.
Doug, as you pointed out Triumvirat made their last publicly-available recordings in 1980. They went through quite a few personnel changes during their tenure - Jurgen Fritz being the only constant - changing their style from prog-rock to prog-pop along the way. (American singer-guitarist Doug Feiger, later of the Knack, was briefly a member ca. 1977, but didn't record with them - although he apparently tried, unsuccessfully, to add his song "That's What the Little Girls Do" to the band's repertoire.) Fritz tried to relaunch the band in 1999 with new members, and made several recordings with them, but those have not been issued.
Mister Ten Percent on This album is another masterpiece! Maybe doing that later Doug? Also Spartacus was very good LP and a concept work by Triumvirat! By the way later Barry Palmer took over the vocals. He actually has been active later years. This is so fine short song by him - Night Thoughts ua-cam.com/video/6aUmcHiheXc/v-deo.html
Hey Peter. The "other side" is better in my opinion. Looking forward to Mister Ten Percent, Lucky Girl and so on😀
To me the most unique aspect of this band is the sound of the drums. It makes them instantly recognizable if you were confused about them being ELP or not. I'm very curious as to how that sound was achieved.
Love ya, Doug !!!! Finally diving into Triumvirat... (SPARTACUS) is their 'swan-song' album.. Must be next. What I felt about SPARTACUS was they Mix.. one of the first of the best multi-track mixes of the early 70s. I had the opportunity to take to Jordan Rudess about Triumvirat.. his eyes lit up.. YES of course he said.. (I think most of the great keyboardists in prog know of this band).
Try Spartacus by Triumvirat..Their other major work...just as much fun a listen and mood changes...It's funny all of us prog fans been listening to these songs since the 70s and to witness you hear these giant pieces of rock music almost 50 years later. The dichotomy is stirring. Definitely know you can appreciate the musicianship and classical training. 1970s progressive music. Such Diamond gems of musical sounds and arrangement. Rock orchestration with the Only boundaries being the limitations of an album side!
Doug and Megan are honorary Rockettes that do three shows a week in vegas.
Oh hey this album rules! I first came across this because one of the musical bits in here (a part in 5/4 not too long in) was basically reused as a boss theme in Super Metroid, a game from 1994. Checked this album out and loved it too!
It’s awesome how much those Japanese composers incorporated prog/prog influenced stuff into those SNES games. Some of those game soundtracks were incredible.
@@SurfGreenTelecaster it even loops back around in some ways - Nobuo Uematsu, the longtime composer of the Final Fantasy games, actually started a band to play prog rock versions of his own compositions, it's some pretty cool stuff
@@heytallman Uematsu is the man! His “Searching For Friends” composition from FF6 always sounded a lot like a Camel song to me.
From one Doug to another, thanks so much for this analysis of my favorite album by my favorite band. Bravo!
I'm finding it funny because Doug is picking up one by one of the records from my vinyl collection to analyze...now I'm curious to know what the next one is going to be ha ha ha !
This is a classic piece!
This album has always been my favorite prog album ever since I first started listening to it back in 1974
Can't wait for the second part Doug... Thanks!
I grew up listening to this album, and always wondered who was influenced by whom, between Fritz and Emerson! You should give the album Pompeii a try, a newer sound and an amazing drummer!
Triumvirat's Spartus was used for playing at Stereo shops.
Glad you're digging into the non-English 70s prog scene, Doug. There's a lot there to explore, although I think you'd enjoy some of the Italian bands even more. This isn't as much of an ELP copy as the Spartacus album, but IMO Spartacus had better writing overall. The female choir on this always makes me think of Hatfield and the North and National Health, rather than Yes (although those stabs are very CttE-ish.)
Indeed, some of the most interesting Progressive rock came out of Italy in the 70's (e.g. PFM, Le Orme, Banco, Area, Il Balleto Di Bronzo, Museo Rosenbach, etc). And some the more interesting British Progressive bands are the very bands you mentioned, on Virgin Records when it was a 'start-up.' (Nothing against Yes, ELP, Genesis, etc, but there are a lot of other bands that were doing very unique music.)
This was a real blast from the past for me since I haven't listened to this since the '70s. Saw them live once, think it was in a small venue in Chester, but I may be mixing things up in my memory because I also remember seeing the Dutch band Trace in the same venue.
That was a pleasant new discovery. Thanks Doug.
Bought their albums as soon as they came out.
As a drummer, I just had to learn some of Han's chops.
I discovered this band in 1974. I still listen to this album and love it.
11:46 Jethro Tull's Living in the Past.
I listened to them a lot during this time period. Had this on vinyl, but now on CD.
I have always liked this album from the day that I bought it in the 70s.
It was great to see you analyse the first part of it .
Be sure to check out Side 2 as well .
Your point about the marked difference in the tone of the lyrics vs. the tone of the music is a good one .
The only other group that I can think of that dresses up dark lyrics in much lighter music is Steely Dan .
It makes the songs really interesting .
Cheers !
Grrrrrrrrreat stuff Doug! 😅I somehow missed this! Triumvirat is one of the most underrated prog bands ever! Love this awesome suite! Keep up the PROG baby! 🎉❤
Quote of the vid:
"This is a heck of a journey!"
Thank you for reminding me of my youth
-- Mark
I once asked Jurgen Fritz, how do you make a Double Dimple? His answer: "First, you need a really big glass." Apparently there is not a whiskey named double dimple. This only means a really big glass.
Headphones - check, dim lit room - check, delta-9 check. And a smile on my face. Thanks for the reaction!
Reminds me of Emerson Lake & Palmer in places . And yes , YES , for sure . Lol
I have had this album since 1974, how refreshing to hear your take on it Doug, really enjoyed listening to it again, it must be 25 years since I last played it. One album you must give a listen to is the Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow, it is claimed to be the first Rock Opera, even before Tommy by the Who. Again a must listen, they came back about 10 or so years ago and toured the album with guests such as David Gilmore, there is a DVD of the gig which I also have. It would be great if you could check it out. Loving your reactions.
Doug, as a keyboard player you'll appreciate the piano work in "A Poor Old Worried Lady" from the "Old Loves Die Hard" album. I love that song, I love the lyrical story (the person is skeptical of a fortune teller, but he is so obsessed thinking about his life and her predictions of doom that he is driven to commit suicide), I love the vocals by Barry Palmer (who later sang with Mike Oldfield).
Incidentally you can still get Dimple Pinch (blended Scotch whisky)...it's imported to the US still.
I had wondered if Doug had ever experienced any Triumvirat. This album was my gateway drug into prog rock
Doug, nice choice of doing a relately obscure (at least in the US) German prog band from the 70's. I have this album and I enjoyed it when I was younger. Even back then it was clear this was very derivative and an attempt at ELP style prog. That said it can still be enjoyed and I still do (to an extent but it can get a bit repetitive) but as far as them being a band that moved prog rock forward and has stood the test of time, Triumverate is not one of them. There were many bands trying to duplicate the established prog bands of the time, Triumvirate is one of them, they chose a musical style familiar to ELP fans. Another band called from the 70's Starcastle chose to try to sound like Yes. Marillion in their early incarnation sounded like Genesis, fortunately for Marillion they moved away from that and were successful in creating more of their own sound (with hints of their old influence Genesis) and successfully created their own strong fan base. To be clear this is not a criticism of those bands, I'm trying to put them in context for those watching who might not know where those bands fit in with the 70's prog music scene. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for your balanced comment Ron. I had this album as well and the initial appeal was there but, the more I listened the more I heard someone who was not Keith Emerson. Also, the heavy delay on the drums really turned me off. The moments where they are unlike other bands are really quite nice.
@@brucetaylor4108 Thank you Bruce, and I agree with you that they have glimmers of their own sound but quickly fall back on the ELP sound (with flashes of Yes). It's at times seemingly note for note, parts of Double Dimple sound almost exactly like Stone Of Years from Tarkus among other ELP songs like Take a Pebble as Doug mentioned.
Great analysis of this prog rock jewel. A historic, once in a lifetime recording
I just found your channel and looking through your videos only to find you've reacted to several of my favorite old prog band/albums! Really excited to watch these videos.
Spartacus was one of my favorite albums the year it came out. I think Triumvirat -Spartacus and Kraftwerk -Autobahn were the only German groups I had records from when I was in High school
Spartacus is awesome ! One of my favorite prog albums of the 1970's.
doug I would highly recommend Spartacus which was released in 1975. We know the story but have never heard it presented like Triumvirate presents it.
Some of my old friends told me - they said you'll never break the chain. I love that. They toured with Fleetwood Mac.
Thank you so much for this very instructive talk where you dissect the lyrics and the songs . I learned a lot of things today . I didn't know what was a double dimple . It's fun to hear comments of someone who hears the songs for the first time . Thanks for sharing . Loved it .
I think I bought the album in 1976, after picking up Old Loves Die Hard and then immediately hunting down the rest of their albums. I always thought their sound was quite different from ELP, although some of that was from being fortunate enough to have seen ELP live several time - ELP's "live sound" was quite different from their "album sound" - enough that ELP's live sound was what I associated with them. ELP was one of the few bands that I thought sounded even better live than in the studio - although tracks like "Stones of Years" from Tarkus sounded a lot like their live sound at its best.
One of my favorite things about Triumvirat was that the drumming was written/arranged as more of a separate instrument than on most bands, particularly on Illusions.
Thank you so much for introducing me to this band! I love discovering prog bands i hadn't heard of
I had this album in 1974, not many of my friends could keep up with its progressive nature. I played it constantly. If you like these story rock explorations, try reacting to Rick Wakeman's solo albums - "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", or "The Six Wives of Henry the VIII". Not to be outdone, try Kansas' first album. There isn't a bad song on the vinyl, but you will particularly enjoy "Journey from Mariabronn".
Doug: did you know that Deep Purple made a classically influenced album. I think it was their third album and was titled " Concerto for group and Orchestra" please check it out.
That lovely contrast of happy sparkly synths and depressing vocals. Strange mix but fun!