80 passenger fully reusable Eve spaceplane - KSP v1.12

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  • @skylarwhistance4752
    @skylarwhistance4752 3 роки тому +390

    I remember watching Bradley in the ninth grade which sparked my interest in space travel and especially spaceplanes. 4 years later, I am now studying at a top engineering college. I would like to thank Bradley for being a centerpiece in helping me discover myself and my interests.

    • @LucasCosta-sn5wn
      @LucasCosta-sn5wn 3 роки тому +20

      congrats :)

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +144

      This makes me astronomically pleased and proud. Thanks for being a part of the community.

    • @rbxless
      @rbxless 3 роки тому +11

      @@BradleyWhistance And thanks for inspiring so many people! Myself included.

    • @michal5642
      @michal5642 3 роки тому

      For me it was the new horizons probe when I was in elementary school and the apollo programmes. Naturally I also liked KSP. I am glad I now get to study what I love as well. (Greetings from the Netherlands)

    • @matszz
      @matszz 3 роки тому

      How come you have the same last name, any relation to Bradley?

  • @jonahcovarrubias8132
    @jonahcovarrubias8132 3 роки тому +108

    I feel like Bradley had to relearn how to use rockets again because its been so long lol

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 3 роки тому +47

    The kerbals have more legroom on eve than I do flying to the UK

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому +5

      The UK's overcrowded anyway, we all need to move to Eve.

  • @shiny4984
    @shiny4984 3 роки тому +7

    Like Martincitopanths Said: "returning from Eve is reserved for those who have unlocked 100% of their brain"

    • @mad_goddess2830
      @mad_goddess2830 Місяць тому +1

      I'd like to mention that when he said this he put Bradley Whistance's pfp on screen

  • @astrojoules
    @astrojoules 3 роки тому +24

    Darn, the whole meeting a tug in orbit thing and having to push before coming back down is a total "No Time For Caution" moment!

  • @KnightofSaintJohn
    @KnightofSaintJohn 3 роки тому +124

    So... the amount of sandwiches consumed is Σ(n^-1), which is a divergent series that tends to infinity. But if sandwiches have an infinitesimally small mass in KSP (citation needed), then we get an indeterminate mass of sandwiches... that is uncharacteristically unprecise for Bradley.
    Unless of course, he presumes us to know about Ramanujan summations, in which case the total mass of sandwiches consumed would be about 0.57721.
    But seriously, with the last Eve cargo ship and now this passenger plane, it's great to see you making reusable Eve missions that have an actual practical purpose ;-)
    I bet that, in a way, these missions are even harder to design than some of the outrageously optimized missions to Eve you have done before, since you now have a much bigger payload mass ratio to deal with...
    Such cool, much wow!

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +29

      A novel mapping of divergent summations onto the positive real numbers sounds like a good use of KSP budget.

    • @KnightofSaintJohn
      @KnightofSaintJohn 3 роки тому +4

      As funny as that would be, I hope the KSP2 devs won't be taking your budgetary advice to heart ^^

    • @Liam_The_Great
      @Liam_The_Great 3 роки тому +3

      yo are you the guy who made stock waterfall effects?

    • @KnightofSaintJohn
      @KnightofSaintJohn 3 роки тому +1

      affirmative

    • @Liam_The_Great
      @Liam_The_Great 3 роки тому +5

      @@KnightofSaintJohn thank you for making stock waterfall effects

  • @Ace_ace_baby
    @Ace_ace_baby 3 роки тому +110

    Doesn’t that technically mean he made it to Eve orbit in -1 stage
    Because He added a stage not remove a stage.

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +50

      This isn't technically staging by the usual definition, but it is outside of the challenge of single stage ascents from Eve.

  • @CupcakesLanders
    @CupcakesLanders 3 роки тому +10

    That looks like an insane amount of work. Well done!

  • @GeordonAerospace
    @GeordonAerospace 9 місяців тому +1

    Best video ever. Inspired us, along with Matt Lowne. You should also include a time-lapse of the build! 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @rockspoon6528
    @rockspoon6528 3 роки тому +33

    "Practical" and "Eve" aren't supposed to go together.

  • @fearfulgrot
    @fearfulgrot 3 роки тому +4

    Brad keeps on pushing the limits of KSP, whenever I see a video I drop everything I'm doing

  • @Ale_ssandro
    @Ale_ssandro 3 роки тому +9

    I was disappointed by the lack of insanity in your plan at first. I mean, landing a big craft on Eve, one stage, with a galore of secondary crafts to help: hard enough but not up to your standards.
    Then you pulled a sub-orbital rendez-vous and I was disappointed no more.

  • @neolexiousneolexian6079
    @neolexiousneolexian6079 3 роки тому +1

    7:40 "Then I will just fly it in reverse!"
    I love me a flight envelope that crosses the Passenger Lunch Ejection Threshold.

  • @mbmurphy777
    @mbmurphy777 3 роки тому +10

    I would love to see you tackle some challenges in the real solar system realism overhaul.

  • @Horesmi
    @Horesmi 3 роки тому +1

    -Wait that is efficient and all, but there is no way that whole thing can get to orbit in a single stage, right??
    *suborbital docking*
    -Ah. Ah I see. Ok then. I'll just. Go I guess?

  • @vilmospalik1480
    @vilmospalik1480 3 роки тому +1

    The king has returned

  • @SchadeTree
    @SchadeTree 3 роки тому +10

    Wow, first you didn't land the engine stack on top of the VAB, and then you didn't land the spaceplane up there either. Can you even call this a Bradley Whistance video? The least you could've done was try to eject every kerbal from the plane and land all 80 of them on the VAB before the plane touched down, that could've made up for this egregious oversight.
    Also, I genuinely like the planned flip during Eve entry. As well as burning off a good amount of speed, it also flips the direction of the force the passengers are experiencing from negative Gs to positive Gs, which is much safer and probably more comfortable. Great video as always!

    • @neolexiousneolexian6079
      @neolexiousneolexian6079 3 роки тому +1

      To redeem himself, he must fly the plane through the tiny tunnel under the R&D complex.

    • @SchadeTree
      @SchadeTree 3 роки тому +2

      @@neolexiousneolexian6079 Actually I was thinking of the hole between the helipad and the VAB. He could probably get it to fit with enough lubricant and/or quantum tunneling.

  • @jbritain
    @jbritain 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! A craft by Brad that doesn't exclusively use the spaceplane tailfins as wings!

  • @volbla
    @volbla 3 роки тому +2

    I really like the idea of a space tug waiting in orbit. Although i suppose the passengers have to really enjoy Eve in case the rendezvous is ever missed.

    • @DragonQueLee
      @DragonQueLee 3 роки тому +1

      Since the plane can fly infinitely in Eve, it can always abort, land, refuel at and retry in the tug's next orbit.

    • @volbla
      @volbla 3 роки тому +2

      @@DragonQueLee Hmm. But you'd need to put a refueling station on the surface then, right?

    • @DragonQueLee
      @DragonQueLee 3 роки тому +2

      @@volbla yep, he stated there should / would be infrastructure in Eve. Tourist traps with souvenirs and stuff, refueling stations, etc.

    • @volbla
      @volbla 3 роки тому +2

      @@DragonQueLee That checks out then 👍
      Inb4 Kerbal tourists sabotage the rendezvous so they get more time to faff around on Eve for free.

  • @linkthespeedyboi6259
    @linkthespeedyboi6259 3 роки тому +1

    He is back!

  • @triton6490
    @triton6490 3 роки тому +1

    What an awesome video, I really appreciate the upload. Keep up the good work

  • @TheRealGamada
    @TheRealGamada 3 роки тому

    THE RETURN OF THE KING !!

  • @JYF921
    @JYF921 3 роки тому +28

    Well done Bradley! You never fail to disappoint us! With this system, do you plan on building a full base? And when will poor bill make a return?

  • @xandersfs2346
    @xandersfs2346 Рік тому +1

    I think a von Braun ferry style rocket would do well for eve transport.

  • @jackpost5818
    @jackpost5818 3 роки тому +1

    Love it. Never stop homie

  • @cameronhoy5383
    @cameronhoy5383 3 роки тому +6

    Great mission! I'm dying to see the other end of the spectrum though. How about a low mass SSTO? Maybe VIP Bill's personal eve spaceplane?

  • @josephpentony4804
    @josephpentony4804 3 роки тому +10

    You didn’t recover the fairing!

  • @ДмитрийРаков-ь3б
    @ДмитрийРаков-ь3б Місяць тому

    A propeller that works despite the fact that it with the utility bay are sunk into the tank - it is unsportsmanlike.

  • @thiccnicc6848
    @thiccnicc6848 3 роки тому

    This dudes just showing off his computer specs making the tug with that many tiny fuel tanks

  • @Darkherring
    @Darkherring 3 роки тому

    I see Bradley - I press like before starting the video

  • @camera1946
    @camera1946 3 роки тому

    YOOOO HES BACK

  • @DogsaladSalad
    @DogsaladSalad 3 роки тому

    hes back babeeeeeeeee!

  • @baileyrahn266
    @baileyrahn266 3 роки тому +1

    that tug rendezvous damn

  • @MaximillionBucks
    @MaximillionBucks 3 роки тому +1

    8:00 Did you just do a J-turn in a spaceplane?

    • @dunodisko2217
      @dunodisko2217 3 роки тому

      You don’t know about manual transmission wings?

  • @Spacewalker1870
    @Spacewalker1870 Місяць тому

    seeing a mission done by a youtuber that is the same as their profile picture is like when the movie characters say the name of the movie, or a singer says the name of the song lol

  • @afakeboxofporkramen5334
    @afakeboxofporkramen5334 3 роки тому +1

    Jesus that fuel tanker would crash my game

  • @DanielDornekDorda
    @DanielDornekDorda 3 роки тому

    I miss watching your videos and the odysseys by bill

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 3 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for a propellor SSTO, specifically one with the game's propellors, if that makes sense. Makes sense that Bradley would be the first to make one for video! :D It's an elegant plane, I really like it. I like it more because it has windows. And 80 seats! Wow!
    I like that the pylons on the launcher acted as fins low down on the stack for launch, and high up on the returning launcher.
    How far did the rover bounce on landing? I feel we've missed a good bit there! XD Is that landing the reason the rover has so many wheels despite Gilly's tiny gravity?
    Oof! That docking maneuver! I can understand why you'd want to do it that way, but I'd hate to actually do it despite 50% of my KSP experience being docking maneuvers.

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +2

      I had a segment in the video of everything bouncing around on Gilly for a good 5-10 minutes. I suppose I shouldnt have cut that part out.
      The docking maneuver was certainly the core part of this.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому +2

      @@BradleyWhistance Oh, that long? I don't blame you for wanting to cut it. And yeah, that docking maneuver was a thrill. (I think my blood sugar might have been getting a little low when I first commented.)

  • @trattoretrattore8228
    @trattoretrattore8228 3 роки тому +2

    Is the high-power tug included in the calculation of the payload mass/weight ratio or not, considering it doesn't reach Eve's surface?

  • @kaptain1477
    @kaptain1477 3 роки тому

    They should release a update that lets us physic warp x4 with propellers because I'm that mode it would become unstable and wobble making it unable to fly.

  • @geostorm8192
    @geostorm8192 3 роки тому

    I propose you a bit of a weird challenge: make something that can parachute down to Eve within the boundaries of a M-1x1 Structural Panel. How many science experiments can you bring along? Can you make a rover?

  • @attenia
    @attenia 3 роки тому

    Its an inverted rocket: Instead of dumping a stage, you add one! xD

  • @bruceismay5440
    @bruceismay5440 3 роки тому

    Hurrah another video!

  • @phoenix0166
    @phoenix0166 3 роки тому

    Fellas he done it again

  • @tfk_001
    @tfk_001 3 роки тому +9

    Mass of Eveplane (without passengers) : 449.2 tons
    Mass of Eveplane (without passengers): 456.7 tons
    So the passengers have no souls I see

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +6

      I'm going to appeal to the uncertainty principle.

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 3 роки тому +6

      Is one of the lines supposed to be *with* passengers?

    • @tfk_001
      @tfk_001 3 роки тому +1

      @@NoNameAtAll2 I assume

    • @tfk_001
      @tfk_001 3 роки тому +1

      @@NoNameAtAll2 yeah it was edited to with

  • @rbxless
    @rbxless 3 роки тому

    6:21 HE USED ROTATION TO SAVE DELTA-V

  • @alverro5351
    @alverro5351 3 роки тому

    actually how dude
    incredible

  • @siyacer
    @siyacer 3 роки тому

    Beautiful

  • @randomkerbal
    @randomkerbal 3 роки тому +2

    How did you stabilise the plane without vertical stabilisers?

  • @snosibsnob3930
    @snosibsnob3930 3 роки тому +1

    Eve? More like speeve
    Am Irite

  • @SonicMasterLB
    @SonicMasterLB 3 роки тому +1

    Just... WoW

  • @jameskazd9951
    @jameskazd9951 3 роки тому +1

    i recently started playing KSP and am having trouble figuring out rendezvous, if anyone could give me some tips that would be great. I would really like to put some Kerbals on the station i put into orbit and eventually expand it.

    • @parallelflow
      @parallelflow 3 роки тому +2

      First, ua-cam.com/video/srsiLZLPiv0/v-deo.html
      Rendezvous is all about being in the same place at the same time, while burning the engines to match orbits. You can use higher or lower orbits to catch up to the target, and once you're in close enough you can cycle between vehicles using forward and backwards brackets "[" and "]".

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer 3 роки тому

      Select target, then adjust speed relative to them until it's 0.

  • @archae108
    @archae108 3 роки тому

    Yay! A SSTO from Brad! Thanks!

  • @notfunny3397
    @notfunny3397 3 роки тому

    The fairing technically wasn't recovered.
    But still very impressive

  • @Chronicles-fz7kv
    @Chronicles-fz7kv 3 роки тому +1

    I thought of doing this to help make a reusable eve ascent vehicle for me but I always thought doing this was outrageous, it probably still is but atleast I know it's possible. How long is the time window to dock before you really start entering the atmosphere?

  • @ДмитрийРаков-ь3б
    @ДмитрийРаков-ь3б Місяць тому

    With the option "Resource Transfer Obeys Crossfeed Rules" - will not work.

  • @patricks_music
    @patricks_music 3 роки тому +2

    Good lord what cpu do you have!?

  • @truth12340
    @truth12340 3 роки тому +1

    go to every single planet without using xenon and liquid fuel

  • @testtest-hu5fv
    @testtest-hu5fv 3 роки тому

    This is with unbreakable connections.. otherwise the wings wont be that stable

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +4

      The wings are mounted to the fuselage and offset outward

    • @testtest-hu5fv
      @testtest-hu5fv 3 роки тому

      That's too deep KSP-Physic for me :D aerodynamics stay the same? thx for response

  • @MinerBat
    @MinerBat 3 роки тому +4

    why are rockets more effective at higher speed if they have constant isp?

    • @BradleyWhistance
      @BradleyWhistance  3 роки тому +6

      Great question! Constant specific impulse means that rockets will achieve the same change in momentum as a function of fuel consumed regardless of how fast you are going when used. Momentum is a linear function of velocity, kinetic energy is a square function. As a result, the same change in momentum results in a greater change in kinetic energy if you are already at a higher velocity.
      This is why maneuvers in an elliptical orbit are more effective when near the perigee (Oberth effect). This is the point where you have the highest velocity relative to body you are orbiting. The same principle applies whenever a reaction engine is used. The faster you are going, the more effect you get from a specific impulse.

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 3 роки тому +2

      It's important to note that he means they're more energy-efficient, i.e. they use the stored energy in the craft more efficiently by converting more of it to kinetic energy than say a jet engine where you need to spend a good portion of the stored energy overcoming intake drag for example.

  • @ruthmoreton6975
    @ruthmoreton6975 3 роки тому

    Did the rover have an ore tank? What concentration of ore in the surface did you need for 4 drills to supply 1 Convertotron 250 in a timely fashion?

  • @mrcooleh
    @mrcooleh 3 роки тому

    Hi Brad, love the channel! Do you think its possible to make a rotating skyhook in KSP? I've been trying to come up with a design, but keep coming up empty.

  • @Fenrisboulder
    @Fenrisboulder 3 роки тому

    this trip can't be without 3 infarts per passenger at least

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому

      I had to open my window about 3 minutes before I saw your comment.

  • @apachebeamix
    @apachebeamix 3 роки тому +1

    Noice, pretty impressive! More "practical" than the other stuff... Nice Spam in a Can on Wheels though!

  • @moartems5076
    @moartems5076 3 роки тому

    Hm, is the claw for fuel exchange? I know you can turn it off in the options.

  • @amiel6057
    @amiel6057 3 роки тому

    Hi, what mods do you use, You, Stratzen and Matt Lowne are my favorite KSP Engineers.

  • @maximk.617
    @maximk.617 3 роки тому

    Elegant!

  • @jaycweingardt11
    @jaycweingardt11 3 роки тому

    Can the plane reenter Eve if the tug doesnt get to it in time?
    it is empty so it might be able to but those G's might kill a kerbal much less a human.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому +1

      Perhaps it could glide at a higher altitude so the thinner air wouldn't slow it down so fast. But I say this as someone who hasn't yet landed on Eve.

    • @jaycweingardt11
      @jaycweingardt11 3 роки тому +1

      @@eekee6034 it comes down to the angle that you enter the atmosphere, shallow angle lets you glide and burn off speed, steep angle forces you into the lower parts of the atmosphere faster causing you to slow down over a shorter distance which means more G's and heating.

  • @santiagovidal4497
    @santiagovidal4497 3 роки тому

    Let's GO NEW VID

  • @xquo2714
    @xquo2714 3 роки тому

    most impressive

  • @FQP-7024
    @FQP-7024 3 роки тому

    Damn that's nice

  • @bravoalpha101st
    @bravoalpha101st 3 роки тому

    HOW

  • @sebdapleb1523
    @sebdapleb1523 3 роки тому

    mogul moves

  • @kaptain1477
    @kaptain1477 3 роки тому

    Couldn't you use a rhino engine instead of those I think it would be more efficient at that attitude and prove enough thrust

  • @na9565
    @na9565 3 роки тому

    And now do it with tac life support

  • @kylehughes1741
    @kylehughes1741 3 роки тому

    LETSS GOOOOOOOO

  • @SocialDownclimber
    @SocialDownclimber 3 роки тому

    love a good suborbital catch : )

  • @RD-170
    @RD-170 3 роки тому +2

    Did not plant flag, disliked and unsubscribed

  • @dranand75
    @dranand75 3 роки тому

    oof

  • @evanconcepcion7934
    @evanconcepcion7934 3 роки тому +1

    I think you’re running out of ideas.
    Why not try something new on ksp?
    Real solar system? Outer planets mod? Galileo’s planet pack?

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 3 роки тому

      Oh, I think if you haven't built an Eve surface colony with fully reusable Eve surface to orbit transport, you're not out of things to do in the stock game. It would be interesting to see Bradley play RSS though.