KSP v1.5: Single stage, nonstop trip to Eve and back: World first stock, unrefueled SSTK from Eve.
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2018
- Stock parts and physics, one very long spaceplane.
References:
Astrobond: First Eve SSTO proof of concept:
• KSP 1 04 Eve SSTO 6882m
Stratzenblitz75; First fully reusable Eve mission:
• Eve ∞ - A completely r...
Kergarin Aerospace; First fully functional Eve SSTO: • Stock REUSABLE EVE SST...
My own asteroid-shenanigans Eve single stage mission:
• The Odyssey by Bill, B...
Impressive, most impressive.
Fortunately, I had a really helpful campaign play-through tutorial to learn how to play this game four years ago. =)
Tutorial by Mr.Whistance:
How to make stupidly large SSTK's and SSTO's with stupidly difficult parameters.
that comment was so wholesome it made me nostalgically tear up @@BradleyWhistance
What tutorial?!SHOW ME!!!
@@Cby0530 Scott made a campaign (now "science") mode tutorial years ago. It's on an old version of KSP, though, so the atmospheric physics (among other things) have changed quite a bit.
He actually did it the absolute madman
Not enough Bee Gees.
Wait, I used the 2.5m rocket fuel tanks on an Eve ssto lander as well, but on reentry the fuel tank overheated and exploded. How did you overcome the heating problem?
I use the wings and the control surfaces to control the descent. You'll notice that I pitch up to allow me to slow down before entering the lower atmosphere. (Also these are the 5m tanks btw).
Correction: I meant the how did you overcome heating with exposed fuel tanks also with 2000k heat tolerance.
OK, but now to do it without any ISRU, at all?
He spent 48 years refueling at eve.
The absolute madman.
And ~9 years boosting the orbit.
Yes but he walked around on the surface for 10 seconds and still made it home in time for his grandchildren's funerals
I mean it's a grand feat of gameplay but this makes it stupid imho. A 61 year long space mission all by himself. That's the reason Bill is fcked up in head.
Is there a player/streamer who plays it more real life-y that you guys can recommend?
@@TheKurtkapan34 Uhh, this was just a proof of concept, I'm sure he has some more realisitic gameplay.
My last GT was completed in less than 48 years, and 10 of them were wasted because I forgot to put an engineer in my Eve lander. SSTO from eve is impressive. Hats off to you sir.
Wow, color me impressed! I can't imagine the time it took to fine tune this mission, much less actually fly it. Kudos for the KSP first!
He made Strat impressed...
Ksp community never stops evolving :)
Yes Stratzen, this were impressive, and a nice nod to you he did show a glimpse of your vid also. ;)
Edit: This time I remember to sub to Bradley, tend to loose his channel as youtube stack flying saucer and alien idiocy "bones on Mars" - yuck- as suggestions over important stuf like KSP - Wait! Small little green aliens? Where have I seen that before..... Is youtube managed by a Kerbal? :p~
Did bill have his snacks?
Hey Stratzenblitz75 🖐.
You just did this with a 1.6 tons craft
When you have Matt Lowne, Stratzenblitz and Our Lord and Saviour, Scott Manley congratulating you on a video, you've done something right
Lord and Saviour sums it up alright 👍
Stratenblitz is my lord and savior
Haha yea
I'm surprised this video didn't get more views lol
The kerbal trinity
So, if the ejection was 1500m/s and each burn was 6 m/s, that’s 250 mini burns. And if each burn was 2 minutes, or on 5x better time warp, 12 seconds, you spent 3000 seconds or 50 minutes (probably more setting up maneuvering stuff), so why don’t we all thank the UA-camr who wasted an hour of his life to burn from Eve. Now I know why Matt hates ion engines...
Edit: considering lag, maybe about 5-6hrs in total, damn.
It was a LOT more than an hour.
Well then, anyways, good job! I barely ever see so much effort put in one video. All this for us viewers. Good job :)
@@BradleyWhistance Easily 3 - 4 hours for this maneuver alone.
Each burn time perhaps, but then, even assuming no lag on the computer, you have to timewarp 250 times to get to the periapsis again. And then correction burns, and travel times, and KSP crashing, and... wow!
This seems like a good use case for kOS, actually. Write a program to perform the ejection burns and then go have lunch. Can kOS control time warp? (if not, this would be a good feature request)
In real life, orbital maneuvers with ion engines use a single months-long burn and spiral outward or inward rather than using the Oberth effect. Would you have had enough delta-V to do this?
It looks like a giant winged centipede. A very practical design.
No, more like a giant missile.
I wonder if the Squad team even knew this was possible.
like, I can imagine a talk in the office:
Lucas: Hey Jack, did you change any Eve characteristics in 1.5?
Jack: Nah, why did you ask?
Lucas: *shows him this video*
Jack: dear god... QUICKLY! MAKE THE ATMOSPHERE THICKER!!!! MAKE GRAVITY STRONGER!!!! DO EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE EVE IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they didn’t consider the use of ISRU when they made eve.
*Reads title*
...im sorry what?
It’s ssto
@@owenvideos1439 Perhaps "Single Stage To Kerbin"?
i dunno
András Fogarasi single stage to ORBIT
7:13 "hottest part: bill kerman" | Bill Kerman: Sexy flex
I am amazed that this is possible. I am not amazed at all that you were the one to figure it out.
Same. Brad is always the one to make the most amazing missions look easy.
First to the key....
HOLY JEBEDIAH KERMAN. It has been done! This has been the impossible thing in KSP ever since I have been playing... I wonder, what will the next impossible thing be? Congratulations, sir!
It's only impossible till it's been done.
Thanks fam. I even told other people that this was impossible several times.
Next big challenge is single stage to Tylo and back with no ISRU
I got u fam.
Bradley Whistance Thanks dude. I’ve waited a while for that.
I think you win the game.
It shows volumes about the KSP community that there are several comments asking for it without ISRU next time. Like damn y'all need to chill for a bit
This is just human nature. The first time someone ran a marathon under 2h5minutes it was probably not “Yay, I ran a marathon under 2:05:00! \o/” but more like: “Yay, but can we do it under 2 hours?”
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE! SEE THE INVISIBLE! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH!
LAND ON JOOL WITH AN SSTO AND RETURN TO KERBIN NO REFUELING
@@Mike-oz4cv Haha and now it's been done under 2 hours. How about 1:55:00 now?
It's always a good day when Mr.Whistance uploads
your right. this made it all up for my orthodontist appointment.
Im just realizing how impressive this is. I tried a mission to eve in my world, and every stage of the mission failed. falling through the atmosphere my ship flipped so it burned up without heat shields. Then when i cheated to land I realized the engine i used had to lowTWR since the specific impulse of my engines was way lower than on kerbin. i cheated gravity to take of, but since i had to deploy my fairing over my ship since I couldn't select my docking port to click "control from here" on it, the ship flipped due to aerodynamic forces. Anyways, Im just realizing that bradley is a god.
It only took 60 years
61
It's late... but I swear I just watched an unseen wizard loft his hat, a giant dagger flew out, landed on Eve and returned to Kerbin unscathed... D8
Whistance has officially joined the Order of Merlin! xD
Dark Lion Critical win on that toss
*Whistance rolls a nat 20*
That's.... another level of KSPing. I'm just gonna... wipe the tears from my eyes.
Incredible stuff. I can feel the work you've put in exuding from the screen.
7:10 Hottest Part: Bill Kerman
I thought this was impossible!
So, is Kerbin-Eve-Kerbin single stage no refueling ever still impossible?
Edit: Also, did it srsly take 48 years to refuel, or you just fall asleep while it was on timewarp?
I think the craft had the smaller drill and ISRU for weight reduction, Eve’s summit has low ore concentrations, and Jeb stowed away again.
@@JYF921 It has the larger drill because Eve's summit has too little ore for the smaller drill to work at all. It has the smaller converter though, hence why it took so long. If I had used a non-engineer it would have taken hundreds of years.
@@BradleyWhistance holy crap
You good sir have made my dream come true. Since the first time i saw Eve until today i always wanted to see if such a SSTO would be possible, and you finally made it happen. absolutely amazing!!
The legend returns
Really impressive that you actually managed to do it. Congratulations on this incredible feat!
Absolutely amazing. I've been away from KSP for a while now due to school, but this has convinced me to get back into it a bit.
Love it, quite the endeavour. Well done figuring out the solutions for all the problems you encountered!
Kerbal Space Centre needs longer runway? I agree, and Jack Lousma once claimed that he wanted the Shuttle Landing Facility's runway to be "half as wide and twice as long.
Carl Ramirez Twice as long sounds good but let's leave the width alone XD
So great how you summarize the previous works!
Awesome video! Since I started watching your videos I've gotten a lot more enjoyment out of KSP attempting to replicate some of the wonderful insanity I see here. Keep it up!
You have stoked my curiosity. What kind of insanity are we talking about =)
@@BradleyWhistance Some rudimentary sstos and in particular very low mass missions to various places. I've gotten Jeb to the mun and back for under 4 tonnes but the craft is rather easy to pilot and very forgiving in terms of ascent profile which means there's probably more weight to toss overboard ;)
WOW WOW WOW !!! Absolutely fabulous !!! :)
You are the king of KSP :p
Awesome video, and thank's for reminding the story of the EVE ssto battle ;)
When you spend 7 hours on a single burn
Solid job man! Really I can't stress enough how awesome this is, but it took almost 62 years for this trip...
This is incredible, been working on an SSTO that can go everywhere for years, always with the assumption of the last stop being EVE...
You're the only ksp UA-camr that I rewatch videos of
Fantastic stuff. Good job!
Absolutely amazing! Great job!
I am blown away by this video,awesome!
I'm so glad ksp2 does have a much longer runway. I can not wait till its ported for console.
Well dang... that's a really big rocketplane...
Great work here, well done!
Great job on making a video that was still interesting and fun for a person who has absolutely no clue what you're talking about! Also this looks super difficult so omg well done
Very fine work.
Nicely done!
Very nice, thanks for the info for my own struggles with eve!
Congratulations, my friend.
You must have godlike patiencens. Congratz to the the 1st eve SSTO
That. Was. Amazing. Waaaay beyond anything I've attempted. Still haven't made a spaceplane. I have been using the Outer Planets mod and spend my time exploring the muns of gas giants but this was very impressive. Great work!
Very safe descent, very safe approach speed.. ;) Great video!
It's been years since I could play (self inflicted restrictions due to adhd and college) but videos like this just remind me how little i had explored. I hadn't even visited other planets, and that was back on v 1.2
Bravo Bradley!
You Sir are an absolute legend!
SSTO to really everywhere incoming next then? :-P
SSTO to the sun and back
Calm yourselves.
I'm still stuck on the "leaving Eve" part, let alone doing it in a single stage! I'm getting there though. Awesome work, can't believe it took them 2 months to put this on the KSP blog!
Well done truly magnificent seen some guy did math an said Bradley spent an hour just burning but with this much hard work an dedication thanks everyone who helped out what a great job ..but some guy said do it without isru I don't see that without staging considering how big of a feat. this was but good luck with future endeavors well done epic show
Like a boss. +points for the gratuitous mountain pass fly-though
Thats really impressive!
loved that mountain approach though
Speechless, completely utterly speechless.
Never played the game, but this looks super interesting to dive really deep into, with all the math and mechanics and whatever you need to know to build space stuff. Yup.
The same night I make my first plane that can make it to Eve in one stage, then make it back shedding stages, you have to post this. :p
Great work as always.
I bet you can't wait to do it again!
Remarkable work, I am very impressed. I imagine this craft has essentially an unlimited endurance with ISRU, outside of infinite eve landings. If only xenon could be extracted in situ as well, though I suppose Kerbin and KSC could be considered a natural (to the game) depot. You’ve really accomplished the top feat of KSP
Mission Passed
Respect +
I am well impressed Extreme Kerbal Master level!
That was amazing!
Very awesome
I just wanna have a fraction of the skill you have!!!
Computer master Brad back at it again!
this vid earned my subscription
I always thought someone would figure this out, never thought it would come just before my first mission to eve. I'd barely finished decking out the space station and here it is.
Absolute legend
He is an absolute madlad
Congratulations I can’t believe it!
How do you like your Atmosphere, Eve?
E x t r a T h i c c
Wow you are an absolute beast
I just can’t get over the ship looks like THAT…. Truly a ship built for a different planet
Jesus Christ I remember subbing to you when you had a few hundred subscribers.
"A mere minute or two..." TAKES 48 YEARS
Nicely done!!! Next mission should be making the ship less ugly lol
I take my hat off, now you have definitely taken the Eve crown!
And thanks for the reference :)
When I first saw your Eve SSTO video, my eyebrow went so high it is now illegal in 22 states. Thanks fam.
My eyes popped out, when I saw this ;) still proud to be one step on this ladder which you now have completed. But... Which impossibility do we chase next? :)
Sea level ascent? =0
Lowest Seabed ascent :D
Well... might actually be easier than sea level, because we can jump a little out of the water :)
You just earned a sub :O
I challenge you to do an SSTO of Venus from the real life solar system mod
Woah woah woah, Calm down satan
People say there is nothing impossible but it is
I think he will use propellers for leaving atmosphere.
Omg. Well done.
amazing
This is KSP history in the making
You are a god!
Finally
The 4 great ksp youtubers in one comment section
(Now we need swdennis and danny)
Okay, this is epic.
This is absolutely your most impressive mission yet. No competition. This is also maybe the most impressive mission on youtube, competing for that with Stratzenblitzes jool commnetwork and your own single stage endirance challenge.
My hat is off to you
Awesome
what a mad ladd
wow that was very impressive. I tried again and again and again.... and a few more times to get a ssto to work on Eve. Never got one that made it. (This was pre ion drive buff and stock refuelling) Not the prettiest ship every, but impressive that you got one to work at all.
This is insane.
Very nice. I've only ever played stock ksp in the years I've owned it. I've never once been able to land and takeoff from eve
You have done the ultimate challenge.Good job sir.Blow me away with each new video, but it would probably be a little hard to top this. (You couldn't have given Bill a bigger cockpit though?)
That spaceplane looks like the rockets I try building in the VAB, without autostruts.
Scott Manley, Matt Lowne and Stratzenblitz75 are all here! The 4 masters meet!
those ion engine burns looked like hell
The mountain pass looked like something from a Cupcake Landers video...
I loved the comment about appropriate clearance of mountains.
"Terrain. Pull Up. Pull Up. Pull Up."