(14) IL-2 How to Fly Lesson 3 Trim Control - more serious than you think!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Learn how, when and why to use Elevator Trim; The single-most underused, yet critical tool.
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You da man Col Ninny. Your videos have been of an immense help to this fledgling pilot. I've found putting the trim controls on the top hat switch of my joystick to be very convenient as it doesn't require me to 'think' or look to use them. Keeping trimmed is a constant job that does indeed help creating a stable weapons platform.
Tom, you will be one of the few who really gets it! Once trimmed in any configeration, the machine flies itself without you messing it up! It allows you time to relax and deal with everything else. Keep going!
Hi Col Ninny - this video was awesome and exactly what I was looking for. Recently got IL-2 and it took 45m for me and a mate to take-off as he was in the back reading off all the instructions, felt like legit conscripts. Got a HOTAS and Rudder Pedals and waiting for my TrackIR to arrive. Will work my way through all of your tutorials!! Keep it up!! :)
Terrific. I don't use track IR or rudder pedals... but anything helps! Have fun.
Thx for the feedback old guard. Certainly trim can be used to get you home, but unlikely to have a successful landing without elevator control unless you've practiced. RE; pilot controlled aileron and rudder trim I suggest the following.
Set up in level flight at various power settings. Trim elevator so nose remains neutral (ie no pitch control inputs needed to correct). Adjust rudder trim to do the same, then aileron trim. If rudder is untrimmed yaw will cause a/c to bank and just using aileron trip will keep you level but not coordinated (ie ball might be off centre).
Record the various trim settings for different power and configurations (flaps down, gear down etc) then apply those numbers as required. Once in the circuit I really wouldn't both with the rudder and aileron trims unless you are really good at your approaches and have the time.
Online servers dictate landing asap so you don't become a casualty. Having your head down looking for the perfect trim settings may be counter-productive.
This older series is still valid but there is a newer simplified version here for Flying Circus. You don't need Flying Circus. The flight physics and controls are identical. The theory still applies. Good luck. ua-cam.com/video/sWx_MU3gEU0/v-deo.html Preview of the first 14 lessons.
subscribed will watch all your videos, as they are clear and to the point.
Nice, thank you. best of luck
It's also worth mentioning that you'll get a much more stable gunplatform if your AC is trimmed correctly for the speed you're at.
Very correct statement. Aircraft should be stable and trimmed in any state of flight.
May I humbly mention the sensation of sitting in your favorite chair, the sublime smoothness, the aerodynamic intimacy…trim zen.
Trim Zen indeed
There is one problem I encounter, here. Something is causing my plane to tilt to the right. I'm not sure if this is a crosswind, some quirk of the plane or just a poorly calibrated joystick, but if we assume it's a crosswind, just to take the principle, I have to constantly nudge the plane back to level, which is upsetting the levelling with the trim. Is this the kind of thing which pilots of planes without an aileron trim just had to deal with?
I should note that I didn't follow this tutorial in the 109, as some of the models I have don't seem to possess a trim, or at least the trim mapping I use for other planes doesn't work in that one. Rather, I use the Typhoon Mk 1b.
Ah, simple answer. Early 109s and many other aircraft had only the pitch trim control. This issue is very common. Later models have Roll, Yaw, and Pitch trim controls. Look in your aircraft control settings and set the key bindings. When in level flight you can play around with roll and yaw trim to get it set in the mid range. I normally just work on the pitch trim and hand fly the other errors so I can concentrate on shooting at things. They are constantly changing.
I’ve recently got back into sturmovik and for the life of me I still can’t figure out the trim at all. I set all the keybinds and it feels like it does fuck all still. It’s really disconcerting as I really want to get into this game
aah ,fear not! if your keybind is working you will see the trim wheels turning. you may have yr key bindings duplicated to other controls. We are just looking at pitch trim control for now. For the 109 it has a separate stabilator trim binding. try that. also there is no rudder or aeleron trim on the 109. I think the 110 has all 3. I use my top hat controls for all 3. let me know how it goes.
Your vids have helped me a lot get started with this flight simulator. It's fun and your input has helped me pick it up a lot quicker than if I reinvented the wheel myself. So question time: Do you have set trim values for each of the planes or does IL BOS require you to work it out each time you fly the same plane? For example, last night I worked out for the He-111 trim values for pitch and roll which smoothed out the "no stick input" flying quite nicely. My question therefore is can I record those values I came upon last night for each time I select the He-111 please Col Ninny and therefore can I create a simple table of trim values for all of the planes to make life simple and speed things up?
Paul, thank you for your positive feedback. I'm afraid I cannot assist with trim settings for other aircraft. I can suggest that you fly at different speeds and power settings just as you did with the He 111 and record the figures that trim the aircraft. You could publish them here if they work. You can also go to the community forums and ask the same question. Many of these things have already been created.
New to anything flight related. This all incredibly fascinating. So if I understand correctly: if I'm in a P51B and its optimal climbing speed is 165mph - I can pitch trim until my plane is climbing and the gauge reads 165?
in a nutshell yes. You must hold the pitch in the same place to maintain the speed as you trim you will feel the pressure taken off the stick. when you let go it should stay in the same place that means it's trimmed. These vids are valid but done 5 years ago. I have a newer more simplified series for IL-2 flying circus. It does not matter if you have FC: the principles are the same. Let me know how it goes.
To clarify:
trim up = positive value (0
No, other way around. Just remember trim wheel back (anti clockwise) to trim nose u. Trim wheel forward to trim nose down. In all cases you chose where you want the nose to stay (for a given airspeed) and then trim it so it stays there. ie: you can take your hands off the stick and it does not move. _ve's and +ve 's are just a guide.
Try -2 for climb and plus 2 for descent.
Playing IL-2 1946 for ages. Never bother to trim anything except rudder because of rotor's movement making it bank.
Pitch trip just makes flying easier without the constant need to have your hand on the stick every moment.
@@colninny8769 yeah I get that. Just most times I didn't bother with triming.
does the plane not roll sideways in Great Battles? its such a pain in il2 1946...i think the only time i can get to fly proper straight is at 3000m and 80% throttle...
It is the aircraft design. The slipstream from the prop tends to have the effect of creating torque which rolls it. You must fly this with constant application of right rudder. ie: you must keep the ball in the centre. Each aircraft behaves differently.
i should have a question im play il2 1946 in pc (useing keybord) i don't know why the plane are look up with out control pls tell me how i gooona do with it
I dont know 1946. To play this game you'll need a joystick. See my set up vids :)
HOW I PUT TO CONTROL BY MOUSE
Try in Settings to use key binding for mouse wheel. I am not sure if that will work. Sorry. Best to buy a cheap joystick like the T16000 it has many buttons.