A flock of sheep.. I love it! 🤣 Well I guess a herd of sheep is called a flock.. but still, a flock of sheep fouling the engines of a plane in flight is a comical image! Those darn flying Canadian Sheep.. gotta watch out for those!
The fact that the plane was able to land on the water and not get all torn up or leave people with crippling injuries is in fact a miracle. It was also great seeing so many boats and ships rush over to assist getting people to safety. This was breaking news over here and Sully was extremely humble with everything. He's basically a "I was just doing my job" sort of guy, but his experience and quick decision making really did save lives that day.
For that landing it was a matter of inches on how it came in to hit the water to have the outcome they had verses that plane flipping, breaking and having a very different, bad outcome including multiple deaths.
From what I heard, the only real inaccuracy was how aggressive towards Sully the NTSB was portrayed. I believe that Sully himself said the NTSB was not hostile to him. The movie just added a bit of courtroom drama. I don't know if this is true, but it is what I've heard.
In 2016 my parents and I took a trip to NYC. We did a boat tour along the Hudson and East Rivers. The guide said that the boat that we were on, was used to help rescue the passengers on the plane that landed in the Hudson River. I think that’s pretty cool.
Sully had extensive experience as a glider plane pilot. I think the angle he put the plane at, 30 degrees I believe, was the key to the successful landing in the Hudson.
I do agree with the premise of the statements above (ie the angle he hit the water was crucial), but it was not 30 degrees into the airstream. It would have to be more like 15 or 17 degrees at max. At about 17.5 most Wing shapes lose the ability to create lift.
Sully was a hell of a pilot. The fact he was assigned to Red Flag, as the blue force commander shows that. Red Flag is the Air Force's advanced fighter training exercises - kind of like Top Gun just not a school.
It is also well worth mentioning that, pre-Hudson, Sully also had a side-business giving lectures to businesses and organizations about disaster preparation and crisis management. That knowledge certainly came into play here as well.
Another amazing emergency aircraft landing was the Gimli Glider which happened in 1983. The plane ran out of fuel mid-flight, but the pilot was able glide the plane to an abandoned air field he knew about.
ya say it worked out perfect. that is why we call it "the Miracle on the Hudson". plus the pilot was amazing along with the crew. and so many people came to their aid, I had friends who picked a few up. it was great seeing so many come together to help..
You guys made the perfect point about reaction time. The simulations were told about the birds and had a plan, sully and his copilot had a real time reactions that they had to manage and that’s why the safest was to ditch
I'm born / raised in Charlotte, North Carolina. That was the destination of the flight. It was billed as "finally arriving in Charlotte" when the fuselage was brought to the museum at Charlotte-Douglas International Airport where it resides today. Captain Sully was the special guest at the ceremony.
The new museum being built in Charlotte NC is going to house the plane. A guy I used to work with worked part-time at Charlotte Douglas airport and saw Sully all the time
The redesign to resist bird strikes is actually a small redesign of blade angles in an effort to deflect large birds from actually entering between the blades.
In the states we have a lot of vehicle accidents caused by deer and other critters, there is a silent whistle device that goes on the outside of your vehicle that makes a sound only the animals can hear to prevent such accidents. They could have been referring to a like type object for an airplay . Could be.
This was a miracle in so many ways. The timing of the rescuers, the fact that the A320 was equipped with life vests and detachable slides to begin with, the ability of the flight crew was able to keep almost everybody completely calm, the ferry captains who were barely minutes away, the Hudson being extremely smooth that day, and most of all, Sully's experience. I think aviation engineers said they ran MILLIONS of simulations, changing one variable at a time - pitch, yaw, roll, speed, temperature, approach angle, flare angle - by barely tenths of a degree, and literally every single simulation ended in failure. If LITERALLY everything hadn't gone exactly correct that day, people would have died. Guaranteed.
The Carolina's Aviation Museum is located virtually right next to Charlotte Douglas Airport (it actually may be on Airport grounds, unsure) so in something of a poetic ending, Cactus 1549 did make it to Charlotte like it was meant to in 2009. It just took a slight detour into the Hudson and it took a couple of years but it made it. lol
I live not to far from Charlotte Douglas International Airport, actually I have had many flights from it. I remember when the flight actually happened and tbe shock involved that he actually managed to land a plane in water and keep everything in the proper orientation as it were. But I remember even more vividly the announcement that the actual plane was going to be permanently at the aviation museum. Everyone was waiting for the punch line thinking it was a joke that it would finally make it too its original destination. That said I do believe it is actually on airport grounds and is one of very few aviation museums that are actually located at a major US airport. Also it was announced a couple years ago that the museum is to close temporarily and undergo major changes and building upgrades. More recently it it was announced that it will re-open in 2024 as the Sullenberger Aviation Museum in honor of Captain Sullenberger.
@@alexlail7481 That's interesting, I didn't know that they were going to rename it. But it's annoying that they keep pushing back the re-opening. Unless they didn't. lol I just saw recently that it was delayed to 2024 but I could have swore that they were going to re-open in 2023.
@@stonewall01 I think when they were originally planning it would have been late '22/ early '23 .....but with everything that has happened since they originally planned things out it was bumped later they briefly said late '23... I think now they are just going for 2024 and hoping nothing else transpires I don't know if you are familiar with the Airport but in the past 10-15 years they have pretty much rebuilt all surrounding roads and infrastructure and parking decks... etc..... Everything except the main building and concourse.
A friend of mine at been at the landing point 15 minutes before and said the water had been very choppy,but became calm when the plane landed.The Hudson River has a lot of trained professionals by the fact two ferries managed to pull up next to the plane without damaging it.
Sadly, at the speed these collision happen (it's not only that the bird is sucked, but that the bird crashes right into the engine), birds can break through metal anyway (look for "bird strike" pictures in Google, you will very likely find the one of a pelican that flew through the central console of an airliner). Modern engines are designed to deal with the ingestion of a couple of regular sized birds (they are tested with a canon that shoots frozen chickens... I'm not kidding XD). The problem here was the number and the size of the birds involved (the inner mechanisms simply couldn't "eat" them before breaking.
When I heard about it I was at work. I used to start in the middle of the afternoon but usually showed up over an hour early to eat lunch and read. I had a small Walkman with headphones and I would be listening to a news/talk station. I had just finished eating when there was a bulletin about a plane in the Hudson River. I wanted to tell someone so I went and told my office manager at the time and kept her informed. It wasn't too long before I was able to tell her that everything was OK. If you look you can find the actual audio of Sully saying "We're going to be in the Hudson" all cool, calm, and collected. It would be really chilling to hear that if things didn't turn out so well.
I think the movie you're thinking of with an upside down plane is "Flight" with Denzel Washington. There is a movie about this accident called "Sully" though. An airline or maintenance company would buy the plane at the auction simply for spare parts, or on rare occasions people with too much money like to cut them up and turn it into a camper or an Airbnb.
A large number of passengers from the Hudson River landing bought tickets to fly on Sally's last flight before his retirement due to pilot age restrictions.
Given how soon after 9/11 this was a lot of New Yorkers at first were terrified to see a plane flying that low along the river then the news told them the story and it got it’s fame. I feel that also played a part in just how famous it is, the terror it briefly caused folks on the ground
I literally just finished watching Sully. It's a great movie, by the way. Switched from Amazon Prime to UA-cam and saw you had just posted this reaction. Cool Baby brain. It's real! 😂
Seems like a reasonable solution, unfortunately it wouldn't work as expected. At the speed these collisions happen, birds have enough momentum they can break through metal (birds don't fly that fast, but the plane does; to know the final speed of the collision you need to add the speed of the bird PLUS the speed of the aircraft). On top of that, the protective layer could be ingested by the engine (making matters worse) or detach and fall several meters over unsuspecting civilians. So far, one option is to make future engines more resistant to bird strikes (they are, actually, tested today with frozen chickens shot with a canon and they can ingest a couple with no problems; what happened here was that the geese were too many too large birds for the engines to handle).
One proposal for bird strike avoidance is to make it easier for the birds to see (and avoid) an approaching airplane, such as very bright flashing lights beamed in the direction the aircraft is headed. Another idea is a short-range radar able to detect large birds ahead and give the crew a few seconds to maneuver to avoid _them_ .
I just rewatched Sully, Miracle on the Hudson two days ago because my Mom hadn't seen it. They put him through Hell afterwards. Now he's a hero, deservedly.
You should read Sully's book, "Highest Duty: My Search for What Really Matters" -- it's his autobiography, and a complete description of the events of that day. What helped Sully immensely is that he was an experienced glider pilot.
There are animal organizations/societies that keep track of geese. Maybe check with one of them on where the birds are? Is there a way to steer a flock or even individual birds? I seen a movie about geese where the man saved & raised baby geese. When they were maturing, he taught them how to fly. He used something that flew like an individual helicopter. He was able to somewhat steer them away from danger.
Not exactly: as mentioned, smaller private or military aircraft have had a higher rate of success when ditching. USAir 1549 can be better described as the first successful ditching of a large aircraft *with no fatalities* (and, maybe, with the plane in, mostly, one piece). One example of a similar occurence, with key differences: Previously, on January 16, 2002, indonesian captain Abdul Rozaq (commanding Garuda Flight 421) lost power to its engines after accidentally flying into a severe thunderstorm (heavy rain and hail damaged the engines beyond repair) and, on top of that, an undetected electrical malfunction short circuited the electronic systems of the plane, leaving him only with the primary "analog" instruments to fly. Rozaq ended up ditching in the Solo river, in the middle of the indonesian jungle, *with just one fatality*; since the loss of power happened at 19,000 feet, the plane picked up enough energy it hit the surface of the water so hard one passenger perished after its seat broke from the structure of the plane on impact and hit the roof. Aside from that, the plane remained in mostly one piece after the ditching (it had to be scrapped later to free the navigation of the river, though). ua-cam.com/video/EKIRuBhoeQI/v-deo.html
When all of the elements and circumstances come together to allow a plane land in the Hudson and everyone walks away with their lives... miracle is exactly the word for it!
That’s exactly what the movie “Sully” (played by Tom Hanks) is about. The FAA wanted to blame him for faulty decisions and losing a plane but he did everything right. They had different pilots try to land at LaGuardia after the bird strike but the pilots knew they were going to be hit with birds and immediately turned around Sully said you have to give a few minutes to us to try different things before we decided to ditch. Once you add a couple of minutes it made a huge difference and not one pilot could do it successfully. He and his co-pilot tried a few things and then knew they couldn’t make it back in time. It’s a good movie. The movie where the plane goes upside down is called Flight and stars Denzel Washington. It is not a true story whereas this is true.
@@craigplatel813 I agree. The FAA investigators were simply trying to get to the causes and effects of this accident. Pilot error needed to be ruled out. This happens with any incident involving an aircraft. Eastwood got this part wrong, simply for for dramatic affect.
I live in the country in northern michigan. One day when at a neighbors house a wounded goose fell from the sky and impacted the wooden steps of her deck. The impact was incredibly loud. I went to see what had caused the sound and found a dead goose wedged in the wood from the step that had broken from the impact. I cant imagine what would happen had the bird hit a person instead of the deck
You should look up the ATC recordings of this flight. It's crazy, the chilling disbelief when Sully said "We're gonna end up in the Hudson", the ATC controller just said "I'm sorry say again".
Millie, thanks for the laugh! It brought me to tears bc I have this thing where I see things people say! The imagery of flying sheep is hilarious. As a mom of 2, my brain has not been the same! We understand.
Airports will go and use sound waves & sound cannons to force flocks of birds off the runways and area to try to minimize bird strikes. It does happen more often than you think but doesn’t usually hit both engines like that
The crew being interviewed on Letterman should be watched! The co-pilot in particular was so funny. (It was a panicking passenger who opened the door.)
another incredible story is the crash of United 232 in Sioux City Iowa. not everyone survived but the fact that they were able to get the plane to the airport is absolutely incredible! you guys need to check that one out.
Several people have mentioned that some people convert old planes into houses but I wanted to add they are often also used as movie props and for research purposes. There are several MythBusters episodes where they go to a plane graveyard to test certain myths.
You have to remember this was Jan. in NYC the air & water were freezing too! It was so important to get the passengers away from the water. There's another video of this with the actual voices between the the pilots & the air traffic controllers.
I think a tight focused sound beam projected forward from the engines would induce birds to veer away. Small, lightweight electronics that won't add much weight.
I believe the point about "Developing Aircraft Technology to reduce chances of Bird Strike" is most likely referring to technology around Airports that is used to deter birds from congregating near them/where planes tend to make their departures. One of my friends was briefly a Wildlife Management Employee at LaGuardia Airport, part of his responsibilities were likely a result of this incident.
A couple of things that this video doesn’t mention are 1) this happened 8 years after 9/11 in the New York area. We did not want to hear another bad news story about a plane crash. The guy pulled off Americo and the passengers survived by landing on a frigid river in the middle of January. It lifted America spirits a lot, the the night Osama was killed. Also see the movie to get a complete picture of the traumatic event and aftermath because the airline company did try to second-guess the pilots decisions.
You need to watch the real special coverage that includes actual radio communications and passenger explaining their experiences. The short movie thats about 54 minutes is an reactment. Best thing to do is to see the movie with Tom Hanks. There are many shorts about this incident but they do not come close to what really went on.
The movie Sully was made about this incident. However, there was another movie from several years earlier called Flight with the plot of an aircraft crashing upside down.
There was at least one case of a person that bought an old airliner. (a woman out in a western state) It wasn't as long as this & has the wings attached. She turned it into a "tiny" house on a foundation etc. She must have had to have the fuel tanks in the wings thoroughly cleaned so not even fumes were present. People are using all sorts of normally useless things to create a place to live. Missile silos, boats, cargo containers, railroad cars. I think it's pretty cool what they do to them.
To answer your question the technologies to prevent bird strikes is mostly aimed at airports themselves the dissuade birds from being in the area at all. The only one I think went to the planes is the radar will send a warning to the flight crew if a large flock is picked up by the plane's radar but as mentioned it's not really a problem that can be easily addressed while moving 300+ miles an hour as well as rapidly climbing.
Good call Millie on needing to account for reaction time. By the way the movie makes it almost seem like the pilots were on trial but that was NOT the case.
You should check out the story Northwest Airlines Flight 85 from 2002. It was a 747 that was flying from Detroit to Tokyo. The plane was over the Bering Straight when one of the rudders failed and the pilots had to take turns flying the plane by hand to land in Anchorage, Alaska.
With no engines, you can do only what you can. Being a ex military pilot helped him land that plane without a glitch or like a glider landing on water. At airports there is several things to keep birds away,scaring them ,so there isn't a bird collision.
Re: technology to reduce bird strikes. The last few times I've been on a flight, there's been a loud noise right before takeoff. One of the cabin crew explained to me that the noise is meant to bother birds nearby so they'll scatter and get out of the plane's path, and thus decrease the odds of a bird strike. There's also research underway to do the same thing using frequencies that humans can't hear-kind of like a dog whistle, but meant to keep birds far away from planes.
@@andrewwaller5913 Hit them on the runway taking off. I was in Maintenace control once when the pilot called it in and was returning to the field. He was asked if he hit a bird and he said, "No, the biggest rabbit I'd ever seen ran across the runway and the intake sucked it in. Suddenly the cockpit turned into Christmas. One in a million shot but it happens. The Moose, though, never saw that, but some Canadian pilots and a sister squadron in Maine swore it happened. Our planes have 4 engines, though (and props), so one engine out is no big deal. Ditching is HARD, So when this went down, I had to explain how difficult it was and how amazing Sully was. And the birdstrike itself.
Captain Sullenberger attended the US Air Force Academy where the cadets are started out flying gliders and are not allowed to operate powered aircraft until they become expert on gliding, which probably helped him make the good water landing.
They might be able to use doplar radar near airports to track large flocks of birds to keep aircraft from flying directly into multiple birds at low altitude.
For the technology to keep birds away was mostly research. Essentially they cam up with moving objects to try to keep birds away from the airport area.
I remember seeing this on TV as it was happening. All of the local stations carried it 'live'. It was as if the entire city was holding it's breath as this drama played out. The captain of the flight rightfully became a hero over this. His calmness and extreme professionalism, saved the lives of his passengers. The only reason that the plane took on water and started to sink was due to one passenger. The man was understandably panicking and ran for a rear emergency doorway, opening it. That's when the passengers were really in danger as the water started to pour in from that opened door. And to think, it was all caused by birds! I think this happened only a year or so after a small plane had crashed into a building, off of the East River in NYC. That one was being flown by a major league ballplayer, also over the water. If memory serves me right, a very strong wind gust blew that plane into an apartment building. Quite a few people were hurt from that too. Firefighters putting out the ensuing blaze. Due to the crash, fighter jets were scrambled and flew over NYC all that day.
I apologize if I missed it but one thing that I've seldom heard mention is that the wings were full of jet fuel. Since jet fuel is lighter than water that helped to keep the plane afloat even as everyone was standing on the wings. Eventually the drag of the water filling the aircraft pulled it under however it's been said that the full fuel tanks significantly helped to keep it afloat since it did land in one piece.
Millie forgetting that birds fly. We've all had those days but just you know, I doubt that James, although I obviously only know him the channel, is going to let this one down.
1:36 omg we're peers 8:12 yes ( 8:22 yes you get it! That's also contrary to their training-- before turning back or deciding where to go, make sure the plane is flyable, will operate, _then_ figure out where to divert. 10:00 within like 13 seconds 11:50 and putting on grates would prevent it from getting enough air
The east coast is a natural flyway for migrating birds, especially Canadian Geese. There has been a serious attempt to change the migration patterns which has been successful, but geese have large broods of chicks, and planes fly elsewhere as well.They will always be a threat to planes.
3:45 Baby brain is a real thing! Millie has just proven this 😂
Bless her!
Yes! Baby brain. Most people, especially mothers, understand it. ❤️🤰
Yes!!! Never have been the same since my youngest was born 11 years ago lol😅
A flock of sheep.. I love it! 🤣 Well I guess a herd of sheep is called a flock.. but still, a flock of sheep fouling the engines of a plane in flight is a comical image! Those darn flying Canadian Sheep.. gotta watch out for those!
I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing, picturing flying sheep outside the airplane window. We love you, Millie!
Baaaa
I mean really, flying sheep? I've seen flying monkeys, flying pigs, but I think we can all agree that flying sheep are just silly.
@@rondohunter8966dream sheep jump over you 😂
@@darla896 To quote the great Monty Python, "Silly. Just plain silly."
@@rondohunter8966 are you suggesting cocoanuts migrate?
The fact that the plane was able to land on the water and not get all torn up or leave people with crippling injuries is in fact a miracle. It was also great seeing so many boats and ships rush over to assist getting people to safety. This was breaking news over here and Sully was extremely humble with everything. He's basically a "I was just doing my job" sort of guy, but his experience and quick decision making really did save lives that day.
What was learned during the evacuation on 9/11 played a big role.
@@m2hmghb to not aim over land?
Yeah it was awesome, they learnt from titanic and a few others when some ships chose the ship in issue can sort it self out so not to go and rescue
For that landing it was a matter of inches on how it came in to hit the water to have the outcome they had verses that plane flipping, breaking and having a very different, bad outcome including multiple deaths.
It's well worth reacting to Sully. It is riveting even though you know how it turns out. Sully is played by Tom Hanks.
Fantastic biographical drama movie
From what I heard, the only real inaccuracy was how aggressive towards Sully the NTSB was portrayed. I believe that Sully himself said the NTSB was not hostile to him. The movie just added a bit of courtroom drama. I don't know if this is true, but it is what I've heard.
I'd love to see a reaction to sully
I agree. I just saw it for the first time less than 2 weeks ago. Magnificent movie.
One of the best movies I've seen. It wasn't too over dramatic and the plane was well done.
Sully starring Tom Hanks is about this incident. A great movie about what happened.
Sully has been recognized as a true American hero. The movie about this is called Sully: Miracle On The Hudson. He received multiple awards for this.
"I'm not a hero, I was just doing my job"
In 2016 my parents and I took a trip to NYC. We did a boat tour along the Hudson and East Rivers. The guide said that the boat that we were on, was used to help rescue the passengers on the plane that landed in the Hudson River. I think that’s pretty cool.
Cool!
Sully had extensive experience as a glider plane pilot. I think the angle he put the plane at, 30 degrees I believe, was the key to the successful landing in the Hudson.
I was looking for this comment before I posted something similar
I do agree with the premise of the statements above (ie the angle he hit the water was crucial), but it was not 30 degrees into the airstream. It would have to be more like 15 or 17 degrees at max. At about 17.5 most Wing shapes lose the ability to create lift.
Sully was a hell of a pilot. The fact he was assigned to Red Flag, as the blue force commander shows that. Red Flag is the Air Force's advanced fighter training exercises - kind of like Top Gun just not a school.
It is also well worth mentioning that, pre-Hudson, Sully also had a side-business giving lectures to businesses and organizations about disaster preparation and crisis management. That knowledge certainly came into play here as well.
Him and gimli glider is my favourite ones
The old deadly flying sheep!😂😂😂
Millie is counting sheep...it's baby brain for sure! So cute.
Baby brain and Preg brain.
Another amazing emergency aircraft landing was the Gimli Glider which happened in 1983. The plane ran out of fuel mid-flight, but the pilot was able glide the plane to an abandoned air field he knew about.
ya say it worked out perfect. that is why we call it "the Miracle on the Hudson". plus the pilot was amazing along with the crew. and so many people came to their aid, I had friends who picked a few up. it was great seeing so many come together to help..
You guys made the perfect point about reaction time. The simulations were told about the birds and had a plan, sully and his copilot had a real time reactions that they had to manage and that’s why the safest was to ditch
Sully was so calm, cool, and collected. He followed protocal, and nailed it. He saved so many lives. Absolute Hero!
Perhaps one of the great comedy routines of all time:
“How’s it hit geese when it’s going in the air?”
“Cause they fly.”
“Oh yeah.”
Awesome!! 😀
I'm born / raised in Charlotte, North Carolina. That was the destination of the flight. It was billed as "finally arriving in Charlotte" when the fuselage was brought to the museum at Charlotte-Douglas International Airport where it resides today. Captain Sully was the special guest at the ceremony.
The new museum being built in Charlotte NC is going to house the plane. A guy I used to work with worked part-time at Charlotte Douglas airport and saw Sully all the time
The redesign to resist bird strikes is actually a small redesign of blade angles
in an effort to deflect large birds from actually entering between the blades.
Millie they’re the world famous American Flying Sheep, sorry but that gave me a much needed laugh! Thanks
Black Sheep Squadron!
That was so cool how the pilot landed on the Huston River. 😮😮 to cool
In the states we have a lot of vehicle accidents caused by deer and other critters, there is a silent whistle device that goes on the outside of your vehicle that makes a sound only the animals can hear to prevent such accidents. They could have been referring to a like type object for an airplay . Could be.
This was a miracle in so many ways. The timing of the rescuers, the fact that the A320 was equipped with life vests and detachable slides to begin with, the ability of the flight crew was able to keep almost everybody completely calm, the ferry captains who were barely minutes away, the Hudson being extremely smooth that day, and most of all, Sully's experience. I think aviation engineers said they ran MILLIONS of simulations, changing one variable at a time - pitch, yaw, roll, speed, temperature, approach angle, flare angle - by barely tenths of a degree, and literally every single simulation ended in failure. If LITERALLY everything hadn't gone exactly correct that day, people would have died. Guaranteed.
The Carolina's Aviation Museum is located virtually right next to Charlotte Douglas Airport (it actually may be on Airport grounds, unsure) so in something of a poetic ending, Cactus 1549 did make it to Charlotte like it was meant to in 2009. It just took a slight detour into the Hudson and it took a couple of years but it made it. lol
I live not to far from Charlotte Douglas International Airport, actually I have had many flights from it. I remember when the flight actually happened and tbe shock involved that he actually managed to land a plane in water and keep everything in the proper orientation as it were. But I remember even more vividly the announcement that the actual plane was going to be permanently at the aviation museum. Everyone was waiting for the punch line thinking it was a joke that it would finally make it too its original destination. That said I do believe it is actually on airport grounds and is one of very few aviation museums that are actually located at a major US airport. Also it was announced a couple years ago that the museum is to close temporarily and undergo major changes and building upgrades. More recently it it was announced that it will re-open in 2024 as the Sullenberger Aviation Museum in honor of Captain Sullenberger.
@@alexlail7481 That's interesting, I didn't know that they were going to rename it. But it's annoying that they keep pushing back the re-opening. Unless they didn't. lol I just saw recently that it was delayed to 2024 but I could have swore that they were going to re-open in 2023.
@@stonewall01 I think when they were originally planning it would have been late '22/ early '23 .....but with everything that has happened since they originally planned things out it was bumped later they briefly said late '23... I think now they are just going for 2024 and hoping nothing else transpires
I don't know if you are familiar with the Airport but in the past 10-15 years they have pretty much rebuilt all surrounding roads and infrastructure and parking decks... etc..... Everything except the main building and concourse.
Some people have purchased plane fuselages and re-purposed them for non-flight use such as converting it to a living space.
I just wish they would have played the audio between Capt Sully and the airports. He sounded so cool and in control. Unbelievable!
Chicago Joe here... The movie where the plane turned upside down was "Flight" with Denzel Washington.
A friend of mine at been at the landing point 15 minutes before and said the water had been very choppy,but became calm when the plane landed.The Hudson River has a lot of trained professionals by the fact two ferries managed to pull up next to the plane without damaging it.
11:42 adding cage type engineering that will allow the blades to spin, but won’t allow a full grown geese to be able to be sucked in.
Sadly, at the speed these collision happen (it's not only that the bird is sucked, but that the bird crashes right into the engine), birds can break through metal anyway (look for "bird strike" pictures in Google, you will very likely find the one of a pelican that flew through the central console of an airliner). Modern engines are designed to deal with the ingestion of a couple of regular sized birds (they are tested with a canon that shoots frozen chickens... I'm not kidding XD). The problem here was the number and the size of the birds involved (the inner mechanisms simply couldn't "eat" them before breaking.
When I heard about it I was at work. I used to start in the middle of the afternoon but usually showed up over an hour early to eat lunch and read. I had a small Walkman with headphones and I would be listening to a news/talk station. I had just finished eating when there was a bulletin about a plane in the Hudson River. I wanted to tell someone so I went and told my office manager at the time and kept her informed. It wasn't too long before I was able to tell her that everything was OK. If you look you can find the actual audio of Sully saying "We're going to be in the Hudson" all cool, calm, and collected. It would be really chilling to hear that if things didn't turn out so well.
I think the movie you're thinking of with an upside down plane is "Flight" with Denzel Washington. There is a movie about this accident called "Sully" though.
An airline or maintenance company would buy the plane at the auction simply for spare parts, or on rare occasions people with too much money like to cut them up and turn it into a camper or an Airbnb.
A large number of passengers from the Hudson River landing bought tickets to fly on Sally's last flight before his retirement due to pilot age restrictions.
I remember that, it was wonderful!!!
Given how soon after 9/11 this was a lot of New Yorkers at first were terrified to see a plane flying that low along the river then the news told them the story and it got it’s fame. I feel that also played a part in just how famous it is, the terror it briefly caused folks on the ground
I literally just finished watching Sully. It's a great movie, by the way. Switched from Amazon Prime to UA-cam and saw you had just posted this reaction. Cool
Baby brain. It's real! 😂
The technology to avoid bird strikes could be some type of screening or blocking that knocks birds aside rather than sucking them in the engine
Seems like a reasonable solution, unfortunately it wouldn't work as expected. At the speed these collisions happen, birds have enough momentum they can break through metal (birds don't fly that fast, but the plane does; to know the final speed of the collision you need to add the speed of the bird PLUS the speed of the aircraft).
On top of that, the protective layer could be ingested by the engine (making matters worse) or detach and fall several meters over unsuspecting civilians. So far, one option is to make future engines more resistant to bird strikes (they are, actually, tested today with frozen chickens shot with a canon and they can ingest a couple with no problems; what happened here was that the geese were too many too large birds for the engines to handle).
One proposal for bird strike avoidance is to make it easier for the birds to see (and avoid) an approaching airplane, such as very bright flashing lights beamed in the direction the aircraft is headed. Another idea is a short-range radar able to detect large birds ahead and give the crew a few seconds to maneuver to avoid _them_ .
There have been a few people who have bought retired airliners and converted them into houses. It can make a pretty cool pad.
i was on a fight into charlotte like 12 years ago and we almost crashed on landing.. but the pilot saved us. he was trained by sully lol
I just rewatched Sully, Miracle on the Hudson two days ago because my Mom hadn't seen it. They put him through Hell afterwards. Now he's a hero, deservedly.
You should read Sully's book, "Highest Duty: My Search for What Really Matters" -- it's his autobiography, and a complete description of the events of that day. What helped Sully immensely is that he was an experienced glider pilot.
There are animal organizations/societies that keep track of geese. Maybe check with one of them on where the birds are? Is there a way to steer a flock or even individual birds? I seen a movie about geese where the man saved & raised baby geese. When they were maturing, he taught them how to fly. He used something that flew like an individual helicopter. He was able to somewhat steer them away from danger.
May be the only time a pilot has successfully done this with a passenger plan
I think it is the only successful emergency water landing
@@swilli3476 Some military planes had non-fatal ditches.
Not exactly: as mentioned, smaller private or military aircraft have had a higher rate of success when ditching. USAir 1549 can be better described as the first successful ditching of a large aircraft *with no fatalities* (and, maybe, with the plane in, mostly, one piece).
One example of a similar occurence, with key differences:
Previously, on January 16, 2002, indonesian captain Abdul Rozaq (commanding Garuda Flight 421) lost power to its engines after accidentally flying into a severe thunderstorm (heavy rain and hail damaged the engines beyond repair) and, on top of that, an undetected electrical malfunction short circuited the electronic systems of the plane, leaving him only with the primary "analog" instruments to fly.
Rozaq ended up ditching in the Solo river, in the middle of the indonesian jungle, *with just one fatality*; since the loss of power happened at 19,000 feet, the plane picked up enough energy it hit the surface of the water so hard one passenger perished after its seat broke from the structure of the plane on impact and hit the roof. Aside from that, the plane remained in mostly one piece after the ditching (it had to be scrapped later to free the navigation of the river, though).
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I loved the geese in the air bit, lol.
When all of the elements and circumstances come together to allow a plane land in the Hudson and everyone walks away with their lives... miracle is exactly the word for it!
If you haven’t seen the movie Sully . You need to . Tom Hanks did a fantastic job.
I was at work at a Barnes & Noble store in Colonie, NY.
That’s exactly what the movie “Sully” (played by Tom Hanks) is about. The FAA wanted to blame him for faulty decisions and losing a plane but he did everything right. They had different pilots try to land at LaGuardia after the bird strike but the pilots knew they were going to be hit with birds and immediately turned around Sully said you have to give a few minutes to us to try different things before we decided to ditch. Once you add a couple of minutes it made a huge difference and not one pilot could do it successfully. He and his co-pilot tried a few things and then knew they couldn’t make it back in time. It’s a good movie. The movie where the plane goes upside down is called Flight and stars Denzel Washington. It is not a true story whereas this is true.
The movie Sully adds in the FAA trying to blame Sully. It didn't happen the way they show the interview in the movie.
@@craigplatel813 I agree. The FAA investigators were simply trying to get to the causes and effects of this accident. Pilot error needed to be ruled out. This happens with any incident involving an aircraft. Eastwood got this part wrong, simply for for dramatic affect.
Bless your heart Millie. We love you.
The movie " Sully " is a awesome reactment of the situation. This is a must see you'll learn alot also. Tom Hanks plays sully.
I live in the country in northern michigan. One day when at a neighbors house a wounded goose fell from the sky and impacted the wooden steps of her deck. The impact was incredibly loud. I went to see what had caused the sound and found a dead goose wedged in the wood from the step that had broken from the impact. I cant imagine what would happen had the bird hit a person instead of the deck
You should look up the ATC recordings of this flight. It's crazy, the chilling disbelief when Sully said "We're gonna end up in the Hudson", the ATC controller just said "I'm sorry say again".
Those engines did suck the geese in. People have been sucked into aircraft engines by walking to close to them when running.
In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania our airport has falcons that circle the airport and attack any birds in the immediate area.
Millie, thanks for the laugh! It brought me to tears bc I have this thing where I see things people say! The imagery of flying sheep is hilarious. As a mom of 2, my brain has not been the same! We understand.
I highly recommend watching the youtube video that covers the evacuation by all the boats in the area. Made me very proud to be an American.
The Hudson river flows from upstate NY, and down the west side of Manhattan Island. The East River is on the east side, obviously.
Definitely gonna count flying sheep when I go to bed!
Just don’t count flying sheep 🐑 hitting airplanes ✈️ 🚫
Definitely was a miracle. Well worth watching the movie 😊
Airports will go and use sound waves & sound cannons to force flocks of birds off the runways and area to try to minimize bird strikes. It does happen more often than you think but doesn’t usually hit both engines like that
We needed this after 9/11! A New York plane story with a happy ending. ❤
I was in my home in NY that day. It was brutally cold due to the fact it was the height of Winter.
The crew being interviewed on Letterman should be watched! The co-pilot in particular was so funny. (It was a panicking passenger who opened the door.)
another incredible story is the crash of United 232 in Sioux City Iowa. not everyone survived but the fact that they were able to get the plane to the airport is absolutely incredible! you guys need to check that one out.
Sully is a hero! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🏻
Several people have mentioned that some people convert old planes into houses but I wanted to add they are often also used as movie props and for research purposes. There are several MythBusters episodes where they go to a plane graveyard to test certain myths.
You have to remember this was Jan. in NYC the air & water were freezing too! It was so important to get the passengers away from the water. There's another video of this with the actual voices between the the pilots & the air traffic controllers.
I think a tight focused sound beam projected forward from the engines would induce birds to veer away. Small, lightweight electronics that won't add much weight.
the upsidedown plane movie is called "Flight" starring Denzell Washington. This story is told in the movie "Sully" starring Tom Hanks.
I can't wait to see my first flying sheep.❗️👍😂🤣
That plane is in my city in the museum. In Charlotte where it's destination was.
I grew up in New York on the Hudson, thanks for the great video 😊
I believe the point about "Developing Aircraft Technology to reduce chances of Bird Strike" is most likely referring to technology around Airports that is used to deter birds from congregating near them/where planes tend to make their departures.
One of my friends was briefly a Wildlife Management Employee at LaGuardia Airport, part of his responsibilities were likely a result of this incident.
I grew up swimming n crabbing in the Hudson River 30 miles north from Haverstraw ny to grassy point ny n stony point ny
A couple of things that this video doesn’t mention are 1) this happened 8 years after 9/11 in the New York area. We did not want to hear another bad news story about a plane crash. The guy pulled off Americo and the passengers survived by landing on a frigid river in the middle of January. It lifted America spirits a lot, the the night Osama was killed. Also see the movie to get a complete picture of the traumatic event and aftermath because the airline company did try to second-guess the pilots decisions.
You need to watch the real special coverage that includes actual radio communications and passenger explaining their experiences. The short movie thats about 54 minutes is an reactment. Best thing to do is to see the movie with Tom Hanks. There are many shorts about this incident but they do not come close to what really went on.
The movie Sully was made about this incident. However, there was another movie from several years earlier called Flight with the plot of an aircraft crashing upside down.
There was at least one case of a person that bought an old airliner. (a woman out in a western state) It wasn't as long as this & has the wings attached. She turned it into a "tiny" house on a foundation etc. She must have had to have the fuel tanks in the wings thoroughly cleaned so not even fumes were present. People are using all sorts of normally useless things to create a place to live. Missile silos, boats, cargo containers, railroad cars. I think it's pretty cool what they do to them.
To answer your question the technologies to prevent bird strikes is mostly aimed at airports themselves the dissuade birds from being in the area at all. The only one I think went to the planes is the radar will send a warning to the flight crew if a large flock is picked up by the plane's radar but as mentioned it's not really a problem that can be easily addressed while moving 300+ miles an hour as well as rapidly climbing.
Good call Millie on needing to account for reaction time. By the way the movie makes it almost seem like the pilots were on trial but that was NOT the case.
I love Millie's "sheepish" grin. Also there were 155 souls on board, passengers and crew.
Awesome experienced pilot, exceptional survival story
Any land in that area would be massively populated.. no good options ..Hudson River best option
The museum that the plane went to is in Charlotte, NC its original destination.
God bless Sully…🙏🏻❤️
You should check out the story Northwest Airlines Flight 85 from 2002. It was a 747 that was flying from Detroit to Tokyo. The plane was over the Bering Straight when one of the rudders failed and the pilots had to take turns flying the plane by hand to land in Anchorage, Alaska.
With no engines, you can do only what you can. Being a ex military pilot helped him land that plane without a glitch or like a glider landing on water. At airports there is several things to keep birds away,scaring them ,so there isn't a bird collision.
3:45 I paused and replayed that 3 times till I stopped laughing before continuing Hang in there Millie it happens to everyone
Re: technology to reduce bird strikes. The last few times I've been on a flight, there's been a loud noise right before takeoff. One of the cabin crew explained to me that the noise is meant to bother birds nearby so they'll scatter and get out of the plane's path, and thus decrease the odds of a bird strike. There's also research underway to do the same thing using frequencies that humans can't hear-kind of like a dog whistle, but meant to keep birds far away from planes.
There's a great movie with Tom Hanks played Sully - the movie is called "Sully"
Don't worry, I have seen a "rabbit strike" before and heard about "Moose strikes" in Maine and Canada.
Not many rabbits or Moose in the sky though
@@andrewwaller5913 Hit them on the runway taking off. I was in Maintenace control once when the pilot called it in and was returning to the field. He was asked if he hit a bird and he said, "No, the biggest rabbit I'd ever seen ran across the runway and the intake sucked it in. Suddenly the cockpit turned into Christmas. One in a million shot but it happens. The Moose, though, never saw that, but some Canadian pilots and a sister squadron in Maine swore it happened. Our planes have 4 engines, though (and props), so one engine out is no big deal.
Ditching is HARD, So when this went down, I had to explain how difficult it was and how amazing Sully was. And the birdstrike itself.
The upside down one was a Denzel Washington movie called "Flight", somewhat inspired by the tragic crash of Alaska Airlines 261
Captain Sullenberger attended the US Air Force Academy where the cadets are started out flying gliders and are not allowed to operate powered aircraft until they become expert on gliding, which probably helped him make the good water landing.
"But he lost everybody's luggage. Nobody ever talks about that." Homer Simpson
“Good Trade.” Native American Warrior from Dances With Wolves.
They might be able to use doplar radar near airports to track large flocks of birds to keep aircraft from flying directly into multiple birds at low altitude.
For the technology to keep birds away was mostly research. Essentially they cam up with moving objects to try to keep birds away from the airport area.
That movie you're thinking of in the beginning is called "Flight" with Denzel Washington, a very good movie too lol
I remember seeing this on TV as it was happening. All of the local stations carried it 'live'. It was as if the entire city was holding it's breath as this drama played out. The captain of the flight rightfully became a hero over this. His calmness and extreme professionalism, saved the lives of his passengers. The only reason that the plane took on water and started to sink was due to one passenger. The man was understandably panicking and ran for a rear emergency doorway, opening it. That's when the passengers were really in danger as the water started to pour in from that opened door. And to think, it was all caused by birds! I think this happened only a year or so after a small plane had crashed into a building, off of the East River in NYC. That one was being flown by a major league ballplayer, also over the water. If memory serves me right, a very strong wind gust blew that plane into an apartment building. Quite a few people were hurt from that too. Firefighters putting out the ensuing blaze. Due to the crash, fighter jets were scrambled and flew over NYC all that day.
I apologize if I missed it but one thing that I've seldom heard mention is that the wings were full of jet fuel. Since jet fuel is lighter than water that helped to keep the plane afloat even as everyone was standing on the wings. Eventually the drag of the water filling the aircraft pulled it under however it's been said that the full fuel tanks significantly helped to keep it afloat since it did land in one piece.
Millie forgetting that birds fly. We've all had those days but just you know, I doubt that James, although I obviously only know him the channel, is going to let this one down.
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@@TheBeesleys99it happens …… I guess sheep geese same thing lol
@@TreyM1609she got her Flocks mixed up
@@JustMe-gn6yf like i said it happens
1:36 omg we're peers
8:12 yes
( 8:22 yes you get it!
That's also contrary to their training-- before turning back or deciding where to go, make sure the plane is flyable, will operate, _then_ figure out where to divert.
10:00 within like 13 seconds
11:50 and putting on grates would prevent it from getting enough air
The east coast is a natural flyway for migrating birds, especially Canadian Geese. There has been a serious attempt to change the migration patterns which has been successful, but geese have large broods of chicks, and planes fly elsewhere as well.They will always be a threat to planes.
Some planes have landing lights that can pulse to prevent bird strikes i think