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  • @toeffee_
    @toeffee_ 2 роки тому +4221

    The reason Cleo doesn't take off her bandages is because in her diary, it reveals that her bandages are whats keeping her alive. Like if she takes off her bandages the age of when she dies catches up to her and she turns to dust

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +177

      She can, because she's done it multiple times, those diaries aren't cannon.

    • @PowerSpirit50
      @PowerSpirit50 2 роки тому +512

      @@material-cheshirekhatter2413 Hey, it's cool lore.

    • @sissysovereign1294
      @sissysovereign1294 2 роки тому +358

      I swear had it not been for the bandages,I would've really thought Cleo was a human when she first came out. The only thing I wonder is how does she not risk turning to dust when changing her outfits? Since her bandages are also technically considered her clothes.

    • @toeffee_
      @toeffee_ 2 роки тому +103

      @@sissysovereign1294 True! I always wondered how'd that worked. Maybe it'll be answered in the reboot? Probably not but who knows

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +37

      @@sissysovereign1294 She doesn't, The bandages have nothing to do with her dying.
      She's taken them off multiple times.

  • @monaa7277
    @monaa7277 2 роки тому +2760

    Fun fact: the person that voiced Claire (Goth Girl lol) also voiced Raven Queen from EAH!

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +281

      bro she voiced SO MANY characters like abbey, cupid, astronova, spectra, and more! if you notice, gigi and apple also have the same VA!

    • @monaa7277
      @monaa7277 2 роки тому +97

      ohh i didn't even realize gigi and apple were voiced by the same person lol

    • @vampireghoul
      @vampireghoul 2 роки тому +47

      Omg I didn’t know that, I knew Apple’s voice actor voiced Gigi

    • @vampireghoul
      @vampireghoul 2 роки тому +30

      @@nemashan3701 I knew the Apple and Gigi have the same va, but I didn’t know Raven’s va also voiced those characters

    • @PrincessOfTheWholeUniverse
      @PrincessOfTheWholeUniverse 2 роки тому +25

      I know!
      As soon as she started talking louder, I was like "Oh my God, that's Raven!"

  • @ariadnefrolich7243
    @ariadnefrolich7243 2 роки тому +2032

    "Oh my gosh, Cleo, just take off your bandages" I have to say it; she can't! It was explained in one of her diaries that she and the rest of her family can't remove their bandages or they will rapidly decay.
    (Of course the reboot ignored this and showed her removing and using her bandages for all kinds of things, but we all agree the reboot was inferior so it doesn't count.)

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +98

      well technically in the reboot, she's using them like spiderman but with bandages. i assume there's a limit on bandage usage for herself tho

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +10

      Yes she can, those diaries aren't cannon.

    • @sebatianbalderas4867
      @sebatianbalderas4867 2 роки тому +17

      I mean, a lot of her dolls have the bandages in diferent places (and her gloom and bloom doll actually dont have any bandages in her body)

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +37

      @@sebatianbalderas4867 because the bandages are apart of her clothes too

    • @sakurasensations4786
      @sakurasensations4786 2 роки тому +9

      So I’m not the only one who didn’t like the reboot? I thought I was just being stuck in my nostalgia but I just can’t stand the way it looks and the stories are less interesting. (Plus, I know it’s a reboot, but they just ignore several established rules they set up before the reboot and it feels like a cheap way to say, “let’s take the easy way out of the lore” 😬)

  • @TheMonsterCrafts
    @TheMonsterCrafts 2 роки тому +1495

    I always wished they made Claire and Lilith dolls. Some people made awesome customs, but I'm not cut for that. Also, one of my favorite Monster High movies was "Friday Night Frights", which isn't the best, and it's pretty inconsistent with the canon, but I still liked it.

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +29

      clawdeena9 explained it in their own videos but in short, it was because of legal disputes between streaming channels so it delayed the release

    • @the.geekghoul
      @the.geekghoul 2 роки тому +11

      FNF is easily my fave. Sooo worth it (but what’s with Clawd? Why he be on his period?)

    • @sarahthomas8670
      @sarahthomas8670 8 місяців тому +1

      Same I really want their dolls

  • @rylieclothier
    @rylieclothier 2 роки тому +421

    Cleo and Deuce are complicated, but they do make each other better on the whole. Neither of them are great, but they do try for each other. Also, they basically only break up because of Cleo's family

  • @LifeMergeOfficial
    @LifeMergeOfficial 2 роки тому +697

    So Cleo can't actually take off her bandages.... Or she'll die, it's in her og diary then, either that or her dead tired diary I think

    • @dj4278
      @dj4278 2 роки тому +27

      doesn't she take them off for some of the fashion outfits, also isn't she undead?

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +39

      @@dj4278 Yes, I was about to reply that, those diaries don't match up with the movies and cartoons.

    • @LifeMergeOfficial
      @LifeMergeOfficial 2 роки тому +100

      @@dj4278 she has specific bandages she has that keep her alive, maybe they're placed in certain parts that aren't visible, but it's stated that's what keeps her alive and preserved, otherwise she'd look more like Ghoulia or her dad

    • @pipermontana9522
      @pipermontana9522 2 роки тому +102

      She is undead. Her story is heartbreaking. Her family was forced to give up their throne due to betrayal of people the family trusted. This led the family to being mummified and being entombed. Then their received a corpse flower holding amanita nightshade who found a way out of the tomb. Because of this trauma Cleo has a severe case of the dark

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +5

      @@LifeMergeOfficial no, those diaries are not cannon.

  • @staggbones
    @staggbones 2 роки тому +663

    I think that Boo York illustrates cleo and deuce's relationship perfectly. This movie doesn't portray it the best, unfortunately :(

    • @AshleysAdvice
      @AshleysAdvice 2 роки тому +65

      Plus it’s a musical with some pretty cool monster adaptations of classic songs and the popstar storyline is pretty cool also.

    • @staggbones
      @staggbones 2 роки тому +13

      @@AshleysAdvice the songs are AMAZINGGGG

    • @a4rosli
      @a4rosli 2 роки тому +31

      They finally adressed some issues in their relationship in Boo York and then worked on said issues, I was so happy

    • @DecemberDaydreams
      @DecemberDaydreams 2 роки тому +1

      .

    • @chubbydumpling.680
      @chubbydumpling.680 2 роки тому +4

      it was definitely because of her controlling familiy:(

  • @zhangqiling8086
    @zhangqiling8086 2 роки тому +871

    What I like the most about Monster High is the fact that it can be enjoyable for both kids and adults. I started watching Monster High after I turned 21 years old actually and I loved everything about it. Especially how they talk about many issues that happen in real world including racism, sexism, bullying, low self esteem and other mental issues, friendship/relationship/family problems, body dysmorphia, teens overall worries...etc and they do it in a really fun, non over the top way. The whole accept your flaws concept and the fact that the characters all have different flashy styles and nationalities are also dope!

    • @abrady0
      @abrady0 2 роки тому +5

      Wait, when is the issue of body dysmorphia explored? I just use to watch Monster High on repeat when I was young and I don’t remember it.

    • @zhangqiling8086
      @zhangqiling8086 2 роки тому +41

      @@abrady0 Well in like one of the newest episodes of the series the ghouls/girls talked about the things they hated about their bodies (Which weren't serious flaws to begin with), The French white cat ghoul, I don't remember her name said that her ears weren't pointy enough then Cleo nagged about how her face is overly flawless and symmetrical, the Chinese dragon ghoul said she disliked her overly long tail I guess...etc
      then the big foot ghoul scolded them by saying that their issues weren't actual flaws and that they should accept themselves cause she also was ashamed of her small feet compared to other big foot monsters, but ended up realizing that it wasn't a big deal like she thought and accepted her small feet which made her happy at last.

    • @WeatherInOrlando
      @WeatherInOrlando 2 роки тому

      Me too!

    • @DecemberDaydreams
      @DecemberDaydreams 2 роки тому

      !

  • @NoodleNerd
    @NoodleNerd 2 роки тому +1190

    That feeling when Ghouls Rule does a better job at tackling racism and police brutality better than other shows do with allegorical racism. Hell it's the only Monster High film that tackles it well. But that's another hot take for another day.

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +26

      what's ur opinion about fright on?

    • @phxsqhenes
      @phxsqhenes 2 роки тому +58

      @@nemashan3701 ​ I know you didn’t ask me but I since I recently rewatched Fright On a couple weeks ago it almost made me think of how Van Hellscream was (translating to irl terms) the White Man who basically makes minorities fight amongst each other in order to prevent them from reaching the white majority’s wealth or status. Monsters collectively in this universe are a minority similar to POC, and in Ghouls Rule even closer to black people (again, in a real life comparison). Making minorities fight and instilling negative and prejudice ideas about each other will keep them off of the White Man’s property or wealth etc. Even today a lot of POC have racist assumptions about other POC that are completely not true and ignorant and started from white racist (ex. black people being thugs, dangerous, etc. is an idea carried by many minority groups and NOT just white people). In Ghouls Rule I feel like it was truly a similar yet different take where a descendent/relative of the “White Man” (Lilith Van Hellscream) realized that what was being taught to her and being instilled in her was wrong. When her and Cleo begin to have a bond over something as simple as clothes (which I find very cute and sweet) in the movie that was when she truly realized the racist ideals that her family had. It showed her that monsters were LITERALLY just like them and had the same dreams and interests, they just looked different.
      As a black MH fan myself, I genuinely love Lilith’s character now. As a kid I didn’t really get the narrative of this movie THAT DEEPLY. Recently rewatched it the other day and I genuinely think it may be my favorite in the series. I think it tackled racism pretty well especially for a kids movie and although as a kid we perceive it as “Monsters and humans should get along because it’s wrong to discriminate.” It runs much deeper!
      Also how the police later knew at some point that Holt didn’t actually do anything but said they have to ‘give the people what they want.’ Some of those moments in the movie truly made me pause it since the last time I really watched all these movies were WHEN THEY CAME OUT. Certain things they say in it were truly mind blowing for me. Also Lilith mentioning how her uncle wanted things to go back to the way they’d been and it makes me think of when people mention MAGA (Make America Great Again) when it truly was never great. It was racist. Like, 10 years later and I seriously love this movie.
      I’m all for more discussion on this, I didn’t mean for my comment to be so long but I genuinely do appreciate this movie and they were able to come up with a narrative like this while also allowing the movie to be funny and entertaining for kids (and even teens, like me).

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +20

      @@phxsqhenes hey! thank you so much for your reply! i definitely agree that Ghoul’s Rule did a lot better with racism being used as a main plot line. Fright On only introduced it and Van Hellscream really is white people trying to spilt people of color.
      you’re exactly correct when it came to Holt and the situation with the police. it can be compared to an unfortunate amount of situations involving black men and police officers who abuse their power. Ghoul’s Rule did a great job into showing kids how wishy-washy people are (cleo lying abt holt messaging her) and how monsters are used as a scapegoat for anything wrong in the human world. this can be compared to the scenes where Lilith lies abt the monsters vandalizing her school when it was the humans. as someone who is arab and muslim, it reminds me how after 9/11, there was many attacks against muslims/arabs and people who “seemed” muslim/arab. the movie is a strong allegory for racism and it should be getting more recognition for that

    • @phxsqhenes
      @phxsqhenes 2 роки тому +9

      @@nemashan3701 you’re right! Thanks for your take on the matter :) this movie genuinely impresses me especially since a lot of people think tackling racism and Critical Race Theory is “tOo mUch fOr cHiLDren.”

    • @Odd_Designz
      @Odd_Designz Рік тому

      Tbh its literally because they didn’t make one group actually evil or dangerous

  • @libramoon1582
    @libramoon1582 2 роки тому +301

    Scaris: City of Frights's story dealt with the issue of plagiarism (Clawdeen and Garrot being tricked into creating designs for fashion icon Moanatella Ghostier who passes them off as her own as she "ran dry of ideas " to avoid disappearing forever when people stopped paying attention to her) and the theme of staying true to your roots when finding inspiration for creative art

    • @HyakuyaFutaba
      @HyakuyaFutaba 2 роки тому +3

      Probably shouldnt spoil the movie in the recommendation to watch it lol

    • @lalacheorry
      @lalacheorry 2 роки тому +13

      plagarism and exploitation of workers!

  • @megancarter7139
    @megancarter7139 2 роки тому +431

    They did do Clawdeen dirty in 3D. But I think all the characters look softer and more plastic-y. Can you even still see their fangs?

    • @gisela_oliveira
      @gisela_oliveira 2 роки тому +17

      3D Clawdeen actually looks very similar to a Brazilian actress. Lol

    • @prettygirl6994
      @prettygirl6994 2 роки тому +53

      I think she looked decent but I loved her design in 13 wishes.

    • @jackwilkins7972
      @jackwilkins7972 2 роки тому +33

      Cant forgive mattel for giving lagoona straight hair in the 3d version

    • @teaganjeras156
      @teaganjeras156 9 місяців тому +1

      The animation of the specials from Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love to Great Scarier Reef look like a Nintendo GameCube/ PlayStation 2 Game.

  • @donnamitsuki281
    @donnamitsuki281 2 роки тому +175

    Can I talk about how Cleo's family was basically racist.
    Cause Deuce is like... A gorgon,he's son of Medusa,THE Medusa,legendary monster Medusa (no he's not a demigod,his dad was human,not Poseidon). Status wasn't a problem at all they just didn't like he wasn't a mummy (and,well,I guess his overall personality...)

  • @dianagoenaga7263
    @dianagoenaga7263 2 роки тому +324

    This was the first Monster High movie I ever saw as a kid. Let me tell you, it set the bar way too high for the future media I consumed.

    • @jamj4r
      @jamj4r Рік тому +4

      Mine was Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love? And that one set the bar high for my relationships.

  • @petermarvy3218
    @petermarvy3218 2 роки тому +194

    Honestly, i am so happy Jackson/Holt were such important elements of these movie, i like me a character who is a funky modern spin on Jekyll and Hyde. And man, i think at some point i need to watch the newer movies after the technology got an upgrade, ibecause i seen only the older one (and they... well, they don't look bad but aged visibly)

  • @clutterspunk
    @clutterspunk 2 роки тому +84

    one of the takeaways i got from this movie was that Clawdine is not that into dating people and it was a contributor to my ace awakening and me headcanoning Clawdine as aro-ace

  • @vampireghoul
    @vampireghoul 2 роки тому +100

    “Cleo take off your bandages” Um she’ll turn into dust. Also this movie is so good and it talked about serious issues, this movie is one of the best Monster High movies.

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +1

      No she won't, shes taken them off multiple times, and those diaries aren't cannon.

    • @eieyntia
      @eieyntia 2 роки тому +17

      @@material-cheshirekhatter2413 the diaries are just as cannon as the movies and the webshow 😭

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +3

      @@eieyntia Nope, Just their backstories, everything else isn't cannon.

    • @charliefan9516
      @charliefan9516 2 роки тому +6

      @@material-cheshirekhatter2413 you’re literally wrong and spreading misinformation. She cannot take them off, she always has to have them on. The diaries are canon.

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +1

      @@charliefan9516 Should've said something months ago, idc what about what lies you have to tell me.

  • @astoldbyneon43
    @astoldbyneon43 2 роки тому +326

    I used to love Monster High as a kid and have been getting back into after the reboot was announced. This video (and hopefully series) couldn't have come at a better time, I'm so excited!

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +9

      We don't bring up the reboot or the nickelodeon movie.

    • @untitled-gv3qp
      @untitled-gv3qp 2 роки тому +6

      I heard that they're bringing back the old dolls and series. Does anyone know if that's true or not? Because I miss the original MH.

    • @neramix_alw1300
      @neramix_alw1300 2 роки тому

      @@untitled-gv3qp I'm not too sure. But I am pretty sure they are making a few dolls that come with "diaries" that are suspected to be a continuation of the original canon (not the reboot).

  • @juliannemcgee8742
    @juliannemcgee8742 2 роки тому +62

    Why is close to no one talking about how “How do gouls fall in love” is about an extremely toxic and borderline manipulative relationship

  • @BigLipBarbie
    @BigLipBarbie 2 роки тому +990

    Not much of a fan favorite as far as I can tell, but I really would like to see your thoughts on my personal fave: Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love? I feel like it really does a good job of touching on how people show love and affection differently as well as idealized stereotypical romance vs. actual love in a relationship.
    Also love the video! I definitely find Ghouls Rule to be a better racism allegory movie than Fright On! for lots of different reasons and you basically hit on most of them here without even touching on Fright On! I'm super excited to see more of your MH movie reviews. You're definitely one of my favorite kids' media creators out there

    • @oreoz4792
      @oreoz4792 2 роки тому +16

      yes! that was the first one I watched so it holds a special place in my heart :D

    • @BigLipBarbie
      @BigLipBarbie 2 роки тому +7

      @@oreoz4792 It wasn't my first but it definitely brings back great memories. I remember watching it when it first premiered on Nickelodeon

    • @NANA-su5ql
      @NANA-su5ql 2 роки тому +25

      I think Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love takes the cake for me, simply because Valentine as a villian is just so good. I feel like Monster High villians are always these random adults who feel kinda boring compared to the monster high universe, or is literally 1 charater who decided to be evil for the movie. So Valentine is just so refreshing, plus his heart thing is genuninely creepy.

    • @miao9994
      @miao9994 2 роки тому +6

      I love why do ghouls fall in love! (As you can probably tell by my pfp, lol). One of my favourite parts is that Valentine was actually supposed to be gay, and his story is really sweet. I like how it has a canonically LGBTQ character in the movie. Also I love the outfits lol

    • @Shaowraven2266
      @Shaowraven2266 2 роки тому +1

      Im pretty sure people love that one actually, it gave them valentine and cupid as new characters which apart of the reason they like it. Plus the dolls from the line based off the movie go for really high because of the love for them.

  • @onijester56
    @onijester56 2 роки тому +185

    I defend the bisexual goth girl wearing jean-shorts, especially if she's out with her fluffy gamer boyfriend and thus wouldn't want to go full-goth lest she embarrasses him.

  • @scentedpapers6569
    @scentedpapers6569 2 роки тому +131

    I loved that one monster high genie movie! I remember actually tearing up bc it was so touching to me at least, and i'm just so glad this movie series is getting the recognition it deserves. Nostalgia!!

    • @untitled-gv3qp
      @untitled-gv3qp 2 роки тому +9

      13 wishes. It's one of the most popular movies of the series.

    • @kweenkarr
      @kweenkarr 2 роки тому +1

      It’s 13 wishes, my first Monster High movie ever and my favorite one 😌

  • @amadeosonier5995
    @amadeosonier5995 2 роки тому +8

    the smash cut from "when was the last time one of them did anything to us" to holt getting arrested sent me into hysterics

  • @sierrajohnson717
    @sierrajohnson717 2 роки тому +55

    Yo they face prejudice so many different ways in the series I loved it as a weird kid. Monster High is the only monster integrated school in the series, accepting “everyone’s freaky flaws,” while normally ghosts go to ghost school, vampires go to vampire school, etc. freshwater and salt water monsters hate each other and Gil and Laguna combat that, werewolves and vampires same deal, ghosts are afraid of “solids.” This series was AMAZING and the reboot just made me miss the old series :/

  • @epsilonlove9867
    @epsilonlove9867 2 роки тому +46

    As a black woman who grew up as a monster high fan, and growing up understanding more and more what racism is and experiencing it myself
    Makes me appreciate the franchise more and makes me wish I kept my dolls lmao

  • @ninarose826
    @ninarose826 2 роки тому +15

    Cleo being human passing is a big part of her story in the book series. However, she can't take off her bandages because that's what keeps her immortal

  • @roseberryy_
    @roseberryy_ 2 роки тому +13

    "The bisexual and the fluffy gamer boyfriend" that hit close to home lmao

  • @reigningrockets
    @reigningrockets 2 роки тому +55

    Literally the movie where they tried to publicly execute a minor. Like come on, Holt has got to have PTSD after this. I already head cannon that he drinks socially, but the events of this movie probably made his bad habits worse. I always feel bad for Jackson and Holt because no matter where they go, they are always going to be hated somewhere. Holt hated by Normies and Jackson disliked by monsters. Dude can't catch a break. I also have a head cannon that the reason Jackson is so into Mad science, is because he eventually wants to try to reverse Henry Jekyll's experiment.

    • @Cbitsr
      @Cbitsr 2 роки тому +6

      I'm with you on all. of. this! The only acknowledgment of Holt's PTSD I've seen is in fanfiction (the fans do the most tbh). It didn't hit me until watching this video that Jackson purposely lets Holt out to avoid how bad bullying gets for him every Halloween. There's no doubt in my mind that Jackson wants free of Henry Jekyll's experiment though (maybe the most between them?).

    • @yourlocaldemon2195
      @yourlocaldemon2195 2 роки тому +7

      I need a recovery fic of them accepting that they’re their sides and that’s okay. Please? I need Jackson and Holt to be loved 🥺

  • @ReinaMystica
    @ReinaMystica 2 роки тому +99

    As you were say the character Jackson and holt name I had just realize he is monster version/ son of jekyll and Hyde how did i not put that together sooner 🤯🤣🤣
    Also love your videos keep up the great work 😁

    • @alienjesus796
      @alienjesus796 2 роки тому +32

      their last names are Jekyll and Hyde respectively haha, their family tree and biology is quite interesting. Jekyll/Hyde are their grandparents? Maybe great grandparents? On their mum's side. And their dad is a fire creature like Heath (they're cousins). And triggers for the change shift as they age. Apparently when they were kids it was day/night

    • @ReinaMystica
      @ReinaMystica 2 роки тому +5

      @@alienjesus796 🤦‍♀️😂 I . Also cool never knew that. To be fair it's been a while since I've seen monster high😅

    • @alienjesus796
      @alienjesus796 2 роки тому +9

      @@ReinaMystica yeah! It's cool I only learnt it recently. A lot of the lore is hidden in the diaries and most of us didn't exactly have the money to buy every doll. Luckily a tumblr is collecting and typing up all the diaries which is how I know this

    • @mossfrog9720
      @mossfrog9720 2 роки тому +3

      @@alienjesus796 oh cool what’s the tumblr?

    • @alienjesus796
      @alienjesus796 2 роки тому +1

      @@mossfrog9720 MHdiaries

  • @_______________315
    @_______________315 2 роки тому +48

    This show is gaining so much traction recently and fits perfect into the modern trends that the creators would be idiots to not cash in on it now with NEW CONTENT

  • @melaniedwarka4665
    @melaniedwarka4665 2 роки тому +13

    “Cleo, just take off your bandages. GASP Oh my gosh, she’s human passing!” 😂😂😂

  • @maverick803
    @maverick803 2 роки тому +43

    After watching this video I'm reminded why I feel in love with Monster High. This movie was actually my introduction to the entire series, other than seeing the dolls when I went to the store. The message that it put out was a very positive one and seeing how a parallel to my own experiences in the real world was actually very gratifying. So please do another movie... I want to say all of them but I'm not sure if you will but still

  • @sarahthomas8670
    @sarahthomas8670 8 місяців тому +4

    I felt so bad for Jackson this whole movie

  • @sweethistortea
    @sweethistortea 2 роки тому +29

    I remember when this movie came out years ago and I was SUPER hyped seeing the commercial for it on television. My fiancé and I rewatched this movie few months ago, and it brought back so much nostalgia for me. XD

  • @amazingspiderlad
    @amazingspiderlad 2 роки тому +9

    The jekyll and Hyde kid always made me wonder how the hell that happened, who's the mother and did she bang Jekyll or Hyde? Did Jekyll drink so much of that potion that he genetically passed Hyde onto his son? Plus he kills himself so this kid must have been conceived at some point during the events of the story, which means his dad died before he was even born which makes this super depressing

  • @emmitaxdarling
    @emmitaxdarling 2 роки тому +17

    "I know what you did this Halloween"
    Please, that had to have been an "I Know What You Did Last Summer" reference

  • @Cosmic-mane
    @Cosmic-mane 2 роки тому +27

    A couple of years ago I was looking back at what made me like the characters so much, so I tried to watch the episodes that the official UA-cam channel has, but it felt hollow like something wasn’t right, then it hit me that a lot of specific scenes that I remember weren’t there, so I realized that a lot of overarching episodes weren’t there

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +7

      bro there wasn't plot until MAYBE volume 2 but even then i liked the episodes but i see ur point

  • @aprilvaiarella435
    @aprilvaiarella435 2 роки тому +80

    Ah, this movie. It wasn't the worst they made, but definitely not the best either. I have feelings and many opinions about how they treat Jackson, not Holt just Jackson, in this movie and the franchise as a whole. None of those opinions are particularly good. He could be have been a really interesting character, being mixed and how that affects he is life, but instead they wasted him. The diaries treat him better, but they hardly matter. Oh well, there's always fanfiction.
    The franchise itself is kind of a glorious mess, where basically every piece of it is its own universe. The diaries don't match the cartoon, the cartoon doesn't match the movies, the movies don't follow each other aside from maybe the introduced characters might pop up in the background of next or get an episode in the cartoon, but then they stop mattering.
    Maybe the reboot will fix some that, but I highly doubt it given Mattel's track record of subpar storytelling for their doll lines.
    Thirteen Wishes wasn't terrible, but the best MH movie they made was Boo York.

  • @wolfclaw719
    @wolfclaw719 2 роки тому +48

    Is that joke he made about Double-dates a thing?
    Because it just occurred to me back in highschool my ex would always ask me to double-date with her girl friend whom she's now married too and its making me wonder...

  • @MsSumoon
    @MsSumoon 2 роки тому +57

    Cleo and Deuce's plot is about them being a mixed “race“ couple.
    Another thing- CLEO WAS HUMAN, so yeah she is human passing.
    Boo York actually explores Cleo and Deuce's relationship better and another reason I HATE what they did with them in the Haunt Couture collection, Deuce would never cheat on Cleo, after EVERYTHING they went through it wouldn't make sense, they could have made something less cliched, meaning- oh they are still good friends just the “love“ kind of faded over the years, after all, you can break up with someone and still be friends with them.
    My favorite of the MH movies is 13 wishes, but I won't spoil it.
    But if you watch “Why ghouls fall in love“, we ALMOST got a gay character but didn't because Mattel chicken-out so sadly he is just Queer-coded.
    I truly hope the new TV series keeps certain relationships- Abbey and Heat are perfect for one another and another thing that only this movie brings up is the Humans.
    I'm not counting the 2016 re-boot, they tried but it didn't work that well, the more “kid-friendly “ look kind of botched any goodwill to go deeper, Monster High needs an edge another reason it had to look the way it did.

    • @helloill672
      @helloill672 2 роки тому +6

      When do the diaries say that Deuce cheated on Cleo? They just had a really messy break up

  • @adude6910
    @adude6910 2 роки тому +63

    You should do Redakai, a TV show made to sell trading cards. I can’t remember if it was good, but the cards do this cool thing were the attacks are have a transparent background so you can put them on top of your monster cards.

    • @TStew2C00L
      @TStew2C00L 2 роки тому +2

      From what I remember Redekai was a good show if not a bit filler-y but it was good. Not as good as Tenkai Knights but good.

    • @itsmefm
      @itsmefm 2 роки тому +1

      Oh wow, I haven't seen Redakai in so long. I hope Negative covers it

  • @KatAlystsStage
    @KatAlystsStage 2 роки тому +40

    I went to the trouble of collecting a bunch of Monster High DVDs so I could watch these films, and this was the one that was the biggest pain in the butt to rip and find a workable copy of, and it's one of the movies I've loved the most. It does a lot of really good things with the characters, they have some great dimensions here. I will say, the fandom definitely pointed you in the right direction, 13 Wishes and Boo York are definitely two of my favorites and really solid entries (Luna Motthews remains my favorite monster, love you daughter of mothman!). There are still several I have yet to see, but I do have a bit of a soft spot for Scaris: City of Frights. I don't think it's particularly great as a movie, but it gave us Jinafire and Skelita as characters, and I adore them so so much, they were a treat to watch. Freaky Fusion wasn't a great movie either, but again, I appreciate some of the things it did, namely the hybrid monsters it gave us, they're really fun characters (Sirena Von Boo my beloved

    • @Alexis-ul5wt
      @Alexis-ul5wt 2 роки тому

      I don't think Freaky Fusion was great, but I love Monster High's interpretation of Victor Frankenstein. Autistic-coded characters for the win

    • @KatAlystsStage
      @KatAlystsStage 2 роки тому +4

      @@Alexis-ul5wt You know, this is the first time I've heard anyone draw that comparison, and I'm not opposed to it. I'm not sure if I'd call him autistic-coded personally, but there were certainly a lot of things I found relatable about him as somebody that is on the spectrum. I'm glad more people than just me found him relatable, that's kind of cool. It's also really cool when you consider all the fandom interpretations that peg Frankie and Ghoulia as being on the spectrum. It makes the moments where Frankie shows Victor just how important and wonderful he is hit a lot harder emotionally.

    • @Alexis-ul5wt
      @Alexis-ul5wt 2 роки тому +1

      @@KatAlystsStage I'm autistic and I definitely see myself in him. I've also seen several other autistic people online make that comparison. Also, it's pretty much just canon that Ghoulia is autistic, no real coding needed there. If you read her info page on Monster High's website, her freaky flaw and other things just scream autism diagnosis criteria.
      I also love the Frankie headcanon, it's one I've seen popping up recently. I didn't notice at first, but now that people are pointing it out, I totally see her as someone on the spectrum.

  • @citrinedragonfly
    @citrinedragonfly 2 роки тому +18

    This was the first Monster High movie I ever saw, and is my favorite out of all of them. I used to own all the DVDs, but traded them in to the used book store when they went to streaming. This is the one I kept. I'm glad you enjoyed this one!

  • @sarafodor989
    @sarafodor989 2 роки тому +777

    I too love this movie a lot. As someone who isn't from the USA, or a generally racist country I never really thought about the race allegory of this movie, tho monsters in general feel like a metaphor for minorities.

    • @material-cheshirekhatter2413
      @material-cheshirekhatter2413 2 роки тому +47

      Yes,
      Werewolves-Black people
      Vampires and dragons- asian people
      Cats- Mexican people
      Etc.

    • @gisela_oliveira
      @gisela_oliveira 2 роки тому +104

      Well... Isn't this the whole point? The franchise is for empowering kids about embracing there differences. The school itself is supposed to be a place where everyone can find their place (different from the other monster schools that are for just one kind of monster)

    • @sarafodor989
      @sarafodor989 2 роки тому +4

      @@gisela_oliveira That's a great observation! 😃 Thanks🥰

    • @somethingcraft3148
      @somethingcraft3148 2 роки тому +1

      What country are you from.

    • @sarafodor989
      @sarafodor989 2 роки тому

      @@somethingcraft3148 Hungary.

  • @fatcat1414
    @fatcat1414 2 роки тому +19

    I definitely don't remember the police being criticized as much as they were in this film. Guess I'll definitely have to give it a rewatch.

  • @bessieburnet9816
    @bessieburnet9816 2 роки тому +16

    That was the only Monster High movie I ever got until someone gave me a DVD with two films on it. And it was a shame. I really wanted more but never got it. This was my only glimpse into Monster High growing up, so all I know about it is from this movie.

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому

      there are free movies on youtube and other websites!

    • @bessieburnet9816
      @bessieburnet9816 2 роки тому

      @@nemashan3701 Thanks, I have been meaning on catching up on what I missed

  • @acemaison2834
    @acemaison2834 2 роки тому +31

    I remember when this movie first came out , honestly yea I still like and it’s just a overall good time . Plus cmon monster high has to do a Halloween movie and it’s just the law for them . Honestly I can’t wait to see the reviews of the other movies in the monster high gallery.

  • @Angel_vii3
    @Angel_vii3 2 роки тому +112

    SLAYYY‼️ You've been looking dazzling lately! love the topic you chose, I started getting into monster high when I got gifted dolls when I was 5 🌸🦉

  • @kwatson573
    @kwatson573 2 роки тому +25

    I’m happy your going through the movies, this was one of the many franchises from my childhood
    It was about 11 years ago that I got my first monster high doll, I got the full set of dolls from this movie
    I still have them,passed down to my younger sister, I wish I had kept them in better condition (I was 8 and kept my dolls in decent condition but not as good as adult me would have liked)because they were so pretty but the hair on these particular ones was so horrible in terms of quality due to the gel and curls and got ruined the second they came out the box.

  • @amandadontknow
    @amandadontknow 2 роки тому +9

    god I love the old monster high movies so much, they are so charming and wholesome

  • @t.r.s.5129
    @t.r.s.5129 2 роки тому +6

    I don't know if you are aware, but there's a book series of Monster High. I was introduced to this whole concept with the book, and I remember there was a bit about the monsters trying to pass as humans or something. It was bizarre.

  • @TGChimera
    @TGChimera 2 роки тому +4

    I never even realized Cleo is human passing, that is insane

  • @quantumsurge7250
    @quantumsurge7250 2 роки тому +9

    I watched this movie with my sister. I am extremely disturbed that that audience fully intended to watch a machine bite a man's head off, WHAT THE HELL!?

  • @Ghoul_Dollightful
    @Ghoul_Dollightful 2 роки тому +4

    The party ending in 2010s movies actually comes from the theatre. In shows it might be hard to know when it ends, so to prevent awkward clapping at the wrong time, some directors decided for everyone to dance off-character at the end so it's clear to the audience when to clap. In my drama club we still do it, it's very fun.
    (excuse any language mistakes)

  • @KashiKay
    @KashiKay 2 роки тому +4

    5:41 *Niece not daughter. Van Hellscream is her uncle

  • @ViviJoooooo
    @ViviJoooooo 2 роки тому +6

    I remember I loved this movie so much as a kid, and I gotta admit..i still kinda do. Monster high movies are so much fun to watch nowadays ^^

  • @KOS_Krafts
    @KOS_Krafts 2 роки тому +2

    5:20 holy shit I forgot about her idk y but I loved her (besides her jean shorts) and when u called her “friend” her fluffy gamer boyfriend I died because that is literally the dynamic of me and my boyfriend

  • @sarahthomas8670
    @sarahthomas8670 8 місяців тому +2

    Ghouls rule is so underrated

  • @b.h.4249
    @b.h.4249 2 роки тому +11

    I would love for you to review more Monster High movies. Thank you, you absolute legend.

  • @sarahthomas8670
    @sarahthomas8670 8 місяців тому +2

    Human passing is crazy😭😭😭

  • @meggiemusic9
    @meggiemusic9 2 роки тому +11

    this is my favorite movie AND THEY SHOULDVE MADE A CLAIRE DOLL, which i wanna make so bad. so at one point i will make claire for my own collection lol

  • @shadowunkownlife
    @shadowunkownlife 2 роки тому +6

    I'm so glad to see you reviewing Monster High movies, I watched them when I was younger and have 13 Wishes, and a 2 movies in one DVD that has Friday Night Frights and Why do Ghouls Fall in Love on it.
    I still watch all of the movies even though I'm 14, I'm never giving up Monster High.
    also i think you'll like Boo York, because it answers your thoughts on if their relationship is really toxic.

  • @GenAqua
    @GenAqua 2 роки тому +6

    This is one of my favorite Monster High movies.

  • @ketoburrito13
    @ketoburrito13 2 роки тому +5

    Gurl, these movies give me sooo much nostalgia

  • @moonbowcraze1632
    @moonbowcraze1632 2 роки тому +4

    I used to think Cleo was a human, but years later found out she's a mummy. She really is human passing.

  • @doctorwholover1012
    @doctorwholover1012 2 роки тому +1

    No iconic wiggle-editing at 4:02? 👀

  • @everestmendoza8164
    @everestmendoza8164 2 роки тому +3

    Monster High: Fright On is a must as well as Monster High: Freaky Fusion I just love the meaning in them

  • @hazeeqrazak
    @hazeeqrazak 2 роки тому +5

    When you realised some of these monster high movies has soo much deeper meanings,had bigger issues involving in real life and had plots that are much the opposite of teen dramas.

  • @babysleepysheepyrainbow
    @babysleepysheepyrainbow 2 роки тому +2

    This was the only MH movie I owned, so for the longest time it was the only one I watched. Needless to say I, at one point, had every single word of it committed to memory.

  • @efflyn_art
    @efflyn_art 2 роки тому +6

    I would love to see more of your thoughts on the Monster High movies!! Ghoul's Rule is my personal favourite but I love them all as most do

  • @Halloweenish
    @Halloweenish Рік тому +4

    Are we gonna talk about how those police got off Scott free after trying to publicly execute a teenager with a Tim Burton machine?

  • @LucElementix
    @LucElementix 2 роки тому +7

    TWO videos in TWO days?! How lucky we are to have more Negative Legend's content! =D

  • @sunnysorrel
    @sunnysorrel 2 роки тому +8

    MORE MONSTER HIGH MOVIE VIDEOS PLEAAASEEE

  • @alexander.tahtadjian
    @alexander.tahtadjian 2 роки тому +3

    This was actually the first Monster High movie I watched and its one of my favourites from the series along with Boo York, Friday Night Frights and Freaky Fusion (heck I even liked Welcome to Monster High). So I'm glad you reviewed Ghouls Rule first and I'm happy that you liked it as well. I can't wait to see you review the rest of the Monster High movies (especially when you get to Boo York, Friday Night Frights and Freaky Fusion). Great job as always dude and I can't wait for the next video.

  • @anyways1715
    @anyways1715 2 роки тому +1

    i actually cant believe we can progressively witness your yassification throughout the months

  • @Vandoe666
    @Vandoe666 2 роки тому +3

    I literally know nothing about monster Hugh other than what I heard from you, but I just really enjoy this content, so I watch it xD

  • @witmage9
    @witmage9 2 роки тому +15

    Spectra's hair doesn't look right either.. Hmmph.. Such a beauty, on the webisodes that is~!

  • @nicospinelli1524
    @nicospinelli1524 2 роки тому +6

    If cleo takes her bandages off she's going to become DUST 😭😭😭

  • @АртемПрохоров-Лукин

    Thanks for the video..i'm your fan from Ukraine. In this dark and scary times for my country,your videos like something warm and soft for me... thank you.

  • @Kohdok
    @Kohdok 2 роки тому +1

    The Chad Dance syncs up perfectly with "Professional Griefers" for some reason...

  • @Ok_Friend-il9of
    @Ok_Friend-il9of 2 роки тому +1

    I miss Monster High sooooo much 🥺 these movies where my life growing up. Me and my mom would binge watch the movies on weekends. I collected the dolls and I sadly lost them in a house fire a few years back

  • @erinbathie-moore8478
    @erinbathie-moore8478 Рік тому +1

    This was the first Monster High film I ever owned, and honestly, besides 13 Wishes, it was my favourite movie

  • @Ghostfrog
    @Ghostfrog 2 роки тому +3

    The nostalgia! I can't believe I nearly forgot about Monster High!?

  • @alicespratt1449
    @alicespratt1449 2 роки тому +1

    I loved this show back in the 2000's I collected the entire series from start to finish encluding watching Adventures of the Ghoul Squad till it kept repeating story plots so I was done.

  • @Sugarsoleil_uwu
    @Sugarsoleil_uwu 2 роки тому +1

    Monster High movie discussions: Hell To The YASSSSSSS

  • @larsi4012
    @larsi4012 2 роки тому +1

    Ok you should really make this a series and cover each movie. Because every movie is soooo perfect

  • @alienjesus796
    @alienjesus796 2 роки тому +8

    surpised to see boo york is so popular tbh, I have never finished that movie because the music is just too irritating
    also! Watching this made me really happy, MH in general makes me really happy. If you reviewed more of these it'd be awesome. Especially friday night frights that's my all time favourite as a rollerskater from early childhood

    • @nemashan3701
      @nemashan3701 2 роки тому +2

      BROO BOO YORK WAS PHENOMENAL

    • @alienjesus796
      @alienjesus796 2 роки тому +2

      @@nemashan3701 what it added to the lore was nice, I read the wiki, but its music just didn't hit

    • @cardyn1836
      @cardyn1836 2 роки тому

      Tbh I can’t stand that pharaoh had one rap throughout the entire thing, it took away from his big moment and was just really uncreative :/

  • @gigiisaweirdo8175
    @gigiisaweirdo8175 2 роки тому +1

    I haven’t watched the movies in a while I need to again

  • @arabellacarter1482
    @arabellacarter1482 2 роки тому

    Freaky Fusion was a trip if you ever get a round to watching it.

  • @jazmineverdugo8577
    @jazmineverdugo8577 2 роки тому +3

    We need more of these monsterhigh movies 😩

  • @bernardolopes2817
    @bernardolopes2817 2 роки тому

    greetings from portugal! what an amazing video, subscribed! besides ghouls rule, i would have to say that the best monster high movies, story and character-wise are haunted, 13 wishes, friday night frights and scaris

  • @boufrops6845
    @boufrops6845 2 роки тому

    I don't even watch Monster High but man, I love watching reviews for stuff I don't have time to watch, even tho it sometimes messes my algorithm
    Thanks for posting this video!

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 2 роки тому +1

    1:11 the TP gag was pretty funny.

  • @Shan-si2kq
    @Shan-si2kq 2 роки тому +1

    Ok but this is literally one of my favourite movies just in general 😭 I’ve seen it wayyy too many times

  • @321hackertime5
    @321hackertime5 Рік тому +2

    Love how the town really wanted to see a teenager publicly executed 🤩🤩

  • @zoguy6988
    @zoguy6988 2 роки тому +1

    A movie where my bois Jackson and Holt play a main roll is an awesome movie to me.

  • @sailoreris
    @sailoreris 2 роки тому +1

    Ghouls rule will always be my favorite movie in the franchise

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115
    @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 2 роки тому +2

    Please make more content like this, Negative.

  • @bigpinkcomfycouch
    @bigpinkcomfycouch 2 роки тому +2

    BOLD OF YOU TO ASSUME CLAIRE AND CHAD BROKE UP AND DIDN’T HAVE JACKSON/HOLT JOIN THEM IN A POLYCULE.

  • @nam2052
    @nam2052 2 роки тому

    her HAIIRRR!! Your hair is gorgeous oh my gosh

  • @Korophite
    @Korophite 2 роки тому

    4:22 Thank you, I definitely agree with you. They did the same with the G2's Antagonist Moanica D'Kay who wanted to do the same thing but my younger step brother says monsters aren't a race and they're a species which I think Race and Species are the same ass thing.