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1:05:24 is just good advice in general regardless of being a college athlete. I starkly remember having absolutely awful days troubleshooting electronics design in the lab for my engineering program; you have to wake up the next day and get back to it - have a short memory. It’s necessary for being a writer, engineer, football player, mechanic, doctor, or whatever someone ends up doing. Moving past the hard days, learning from mistakes, and maintaining resiliency is a crucial part of life, as much as it sucks in the moment going through it.
This was my favorite episode of last year’s draft season. Lots of good analysts out there but I swear Matt Bowen is second to none as far as takes, but also EXPLAINING them. For someone like me who’s never stepped on a football field in his life, it makes sense listening to him.
As a Western student, i love the discussion around Marshawn Kneeland! Super happy for Braden Fiske transferring to an elite program in FSU, but i’m happy we got one last year of Marshawn’s elite talent.
He made a great point when he briefly mentioned how a great front 7 makes regular safeties get 5-6 picks...tbh this is one of the DL classes where there might only be 2-3 guys so many teams are going to overpay and overdraft to get their guy and hope he's one of those 2-3
Matt Bowen cares so much for the success and development of young athletes that it makes mainstream discussion of NIL seem soulless and exploitative in comparison. It’s not even his expressed perspective per se, but he exudes an aura of compassion that can only come from being deeply, personally invested -in a manner that makes obvious that most people plainly aren’t.
JJ got hurt in the Penn State game before the 32 consecutive running plays. He couldn't plant so they just had him hand it off. He wasn't fully recovered until the Big10 championship game.
Not to mention Barnhart was getting smoked by Chop Robinson. It made no sense to drop back when JJ couldn't scramble and they couldn't blocked the best pass rushing Edge in college football.
@@Jon.A.Scholt On tape that is what everyone would assume. However, nobody outside the org knew that JJ was injured for a few weeks. JJ is a dawg and wouldn't let his team down. He just sucked it up.
@@rayrack5416 Yea, he took a couple big and awkward hits vs PSU; there was one in particular I remember him getting rolled up on when he scrambled. It definitely altered his play in the second half and it was really really evident vs Maryland. I'm just glad we won the regular season games and he was able to heal up for the Rose Bowl. No way he makes that amazing "pass back" play in the Rose Bowl if he was hurt like he was against Maryland.
Why is everyone so friggin enamored with McCarthy to the Vikings with KO, what in the history of the last 2 seasons would tell you that JJ will succeed in Minnesota. Cousins with that offense did what? In my opinion the best spot for McCarthy is the Giants under Daboll who is a coach that has proven his abilities when it comes to developing QBs. In NJ Mcarthy will sit and learn, with little pressure to start and develop. To be honest, the same goes for Maye.
Is there value in a first-round-drafted prospect's multiple positions that dissolves after the draft? Can a team not have a plan for Cooper Dejean as he is drafted because he offers them the freedom to approach the remaining draft with a more flexible approach? then as the draft ends his role on the team and the plan for his development is defined.
When you say jj couldn't drive the football as a freshman, that tells me you didn't watch the Western Michigan game (I mean, it's a pretty deep cut if you're not a Michigan fan)
JJ is Mitch Trubisky 2.0. thats not a knock but thats who he is talent wise. He is a clean cut nice guy with good talent, just like mitch. they both have better than average arms, good size and and can move. teams fell in love with both dudes and they rocketed up draft boards. Does JJ process better than mitch? will JJ have a better career than mitch? only time will tell.
@@kieranhinton9601 maybe inside. Mitch was a really good runner outside the pocket. is JJ really the best between the ears or is all that a bunch of hype? caleb is 100X smarter than JJ and players like penix and nix have proven to be better with numbers. I like JJ - he reminds me of mitch T and matt ryan type but you are really really projecting with him. he'd be a great 20-30 type pick, same and nix and penix.
McCarthy to MIN is obviously the best landing spot for him. But if their system is so good, why not take a bigger swing and try to land Maye? Obviously, it would take more draft capital, but if he falls to 3 and the Pats are open for business, go all in.
“The bama game stood out to me because it was the most underwhelming game ever and he did the bare minimum necessary to win.” Never has a draft product been congratulated for being ordinary. I’m still amazed at how the nfl world has convinced themselves that JJ is a 1st round pick, because sometimes on 3rd down he didn’t mess up. That’s pretty much what Bowen just said. He doesn’t have any elite traits. His floor is lower than Mac Jones. He’s not talented enough to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, love, hurts Herbert, stroud and burrow. He’s just not. It’s not physically capable of being one of them. So you have to hope he turns into Peyton or Brady to be a top qb. You have to assume he’s gonna be that level of cerebral qb. But there’s absolutely not reason to believe that. He does not have an elite processor, he has never been given full control over an offense, his mechanics aren’t consistent, and he’s not as accurate as Williams, Daniels, Nix, or penix!!! Why is he a 1st round pick?????
A lot of this also has to do with positional ranking if BPA is close then you take the most valuable position. A DE like verse who might be the 30th best DE in the NFL is more valuable than JPJ who may become the best center in the game. one can ask if the 30th best DE is better than the 10th best WR like odonze? some would say yes.
So you have to be smart and know football to be a good drop back passer..so there is only two QBs in the draft worth taking the others will try to make it on athleticism/TB12 or PatM good luck
I don’t know what film you’re watching, but the guy is accurate. And he does have wow plays. He just never needed to make them. Don’t write him off until you’ve actually seen him use his entire skill set.
@@minkeymouceAn NFL QB guru made McCarthy a game manager…in college. He was the Brock Purdy…of the FBS. NOT, ONCE, EVER was the Michigan gameplan to just put the ball in JJ’s hands so he could lead them to victory in the air. Everyone saying he’s a 1st rounder is projecting more than an IMAX theater. But since I’m a Bears fan, I hope like hell GM’s take future busts like JJ, Drake, Jayden & Penix early so we get a second Top 5 player at #9
I think Penix fits with the Vikings way better, they can pick a great defensive talent(such as Byron Murphy II) at 11, then most likely get Penix at 23 without having to trade up to get their guy. McCarthy would be way better with the Broncos in my eyes. Vikings are built for a passer like Penix
These scouts overdue it with a player's measurables. They treat players like it's a slave trade. LOL. Once drafted a 3rd rd and 4th rd player will likely outperform a top 32 player with the perfect size, and RAZ scores.
Already loving this episode! Matt with the knowledge. Speaking of Matt would love for you guys to get Matt Waldman on the show sometime and talk about his favorites
Any opinion on JJ McCarthy that doesn't end with "ultimately the number of things he wasn't asked to do and when he wasn't asked to do them show you why he won't be successful as a pro" really shouldn't be trusted. If anyone trades up for him it'll set their franchise back 5+ seasons. McCarthy is the most likely reason the Vikings will lose Jefferson.
Justin Fields can't process post snap. He can make spectacular plays however he often misses the easy ones(mainly because of long release). However it always everybody fault but his that he didn't succeed. He's got more apologists than Trump...
Joe Milton has gotten so little recognition. Biggest rocket arm, a total dude, i mean his ball gets there in a hurry. Josh Allen got molded so can joe Milton.
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Are you guys doing a mock draft this year? Loved last years!
Matt Bowen- I always liked his breakdowns even when people thought they were listening to Doug Buffone.
So cool you guys were able to get Lex Luther on
Moral of the story, don’t get drafted by Steve Keim, or by the Cardinals, historically. Hopefully that’ll change.
Right when I’m starting my lift again!! You’re the best
We get it you lift, enough already bro lol
@@B-ue8jecalm down and go lift
Lifting to podcasts is serial killer esque… for bootleg you get a pass🤣
I feel like pod casts get me distracted from workouts
@@B-ue8jehe tryna be built like these massive edge rushers
1:05:24 is just good advice in general regardless of being a college athlete. I starkly remember having absolutely awful days troubleshooting electronics design in the lab for my engineering program; you have to wake up the next day and get back to it - have a short memory. It’s necessary for being a writer, engineer, football player, mechanic, doctor, or whatever someone ends up doing. Moving past the hard days, learning from mistakes, and maintaining resiliency is a crucial part of life, as much as it sucks in the moment going through it.
So true
This was my favorite episode of last year’s draft season. Lots of good analysts out there but I swear Matt Bowen is second to none as far as takes, but also EXPLAINING them. For someone like me who’s never stepped on a football field in his life, it makes sense listening to him.
Very cool perspective from someone who seems to have done almost everything you can do in the sport.
This is a man I would want coaching my kids, he's an extremely impressive communicator
Great content ❤
Bowen seems like such a smart influence and a great coach for his players to have. Great guest
I could listen to this dude talk ball all day great dialog and content guys keep up the great work 👍
Hey Brett, when you gonna do your annual video on your favorite day 3 prospects....
This was my favorite episode of last year and already a favorite of this year
Love him shouting out D3 football. I loved my time playing D3
Bowen is an outstanding Analyst Chicago Native. Outstanding! Go Bears!
As a Western student, i love the discussion around Marshawn Kneeland! Super happy for Braden Fiske transferring to an elite program in FSU, but i’m happy we got one last year of Marshawn’s elite talent.
What's better for bootleg - listening on Spotify or watching on YT? 😂
The answer is yes.
He made a great point when he briefly mentioned how a great front 7 makes regular safeties get 5-6 picks...tbh this is one of the DL classes where there might only be 2-3 guys so many teams are going to overpay and overdraft to get their guy and hope he's one of those 2-3
Matt Bowen cares so much for the success and development of young athletes that it makes mainstream discussion of NIL seem soulless and exploitative in comparison.
It’s not even his expressed perspective per se, but he exudes an aura of compassion that can only come from being deeply, personally invested -in a manner that makes obvious that most people plainly aren’t.
Fun fact about Bowen he was the pick in the 2000 draft RIGHT before Tom Brady was taken by the Pats! Go Hawks!
The podcast was already good but as we get closer to the draft I feel like the content is getting even better by each episode
JJ got hurt in the Penn State game before the 32 consecutive running plays. He couldn't plant so they just had him hand it off. He wasn't fully recovered until the Big10 championship game.
Not to mention Barnhart was getting smoked by Chop Robinson. It made no sense to drop back when JJ couldn't scramble and they couldn't blocked the best pass rushing Edge in college football.
@@Jon.A.Scholt On tape that is what everyone would assume. However, nobody outside the org knew that JJ was injured for a few weeks. JJ is a dawg and wouldn't let his team down. He just sucked it up.
@@rayrack5416 Yea, he took a couple big and awkward hits vs PSU; there was one in particular I remember him getting rolled up on when he scrambled. It definitely altered his play in the second half and it was really really evident vs Maryland.
I'm just glad we won the regular season games and he was able to heal up for the Rose Bowl. No way he makes that amazing "pass back" play in the Rose Bowl if he was hurt like he was against Maryland.
Really like how he speaks about football
Right when I’m about to drink more than I should. Thanks guys!
Inb4 several minutes of Iowa player hype. Bowen is a great guest don't take this as a complaint.
I want to formally apply for the production assistant job
Why is everyone so friggin enamored with McCarthy to the Vikings with KO, what in the history of the last 2 seasons would tell you that JJ will succeed in Minnesota. Cousins with that offense did what? In my opinion the best spot for McCarthy is the Giants under Daboll who is a coach that has proven his abilities when it comes to developing QBs. In NJ Mcarthy will sit and learn, with little pressure to start and develop. To be honest, the same goes for Maye.
It's insane to me that anyone either believes or can be conned into believe McCarthy or Nix are Day 1 prospects.
Is there value in a first-round-drafted prospect's multiple positions that dissolves after the draft? Can a team not have a plan for Cooper Dejean as he is drafted because he offers them the freedom to approach the remaining draft with a more flexible approach? then as the draft ends his role on the team and the plan for his development is defined.
LMAO The sudden Kirk Cousins made me laugh way more than it should have
I Know I'm supposed to be on the WR train but DeJean in Buffalo would work really well...
47:40 NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBZ! Go Gophers
When you say jj couldn't drive the football as a freshman, that tells me you didn't watch the Western Michigan game (I mean, it's a pretty deep cut if you're not a Michigan fan)
JJ is Mitch Trubisky 2.0.
thats not a knock but thats who he is talent wise. He is a clean cut nice guy with good talent, just like mitch. they both have better than average arms, good size and and can move. teams fell in love with both dudes and they rocketed up draft boards.
Does JJ process better than mitch?
will JJ have a better career than mitch? only time will tell.
Jj moves allot more fluidly within and outside the pocket then Mitch
I also think he has the best between the ears of this draft
@@kieranhinton9601 maybe inside. Mitch was a really good runner outside the pocket.
is JJ really the best between the ears or is all that a bunch of hype? caleb is 100X smarter than JJ and players like penix and nix have proven to be better with numbers.
I like JJ - he reminds me of mitch T and matt ryan type but you are really really projecting with him. he'd be a great 20-30 type pick, same and nix and penix.
McCarthy to MIN is obviously the best landing spot for him. But if their system is so good, why not take a bigger swing and try to land Maye? Obviously, it would take more draft capital, but if he falls to 3 and the Pats are open for business, go all in.
“The bama game stood out to me because it was the most underwhelming game ever and he did the bare minimum necessary to win.” Never has a draft product been congratulated for being ordinary. I’m still amazed at how the nfl world has convinced themselves that JJ is a 1st round pick, because sometimes on 3rd down he didn’t mess up. That’s pretty much what Bowen just said.
He doesn’t have any elite traits. His floor is lower than Mac Jones. He’s not talented enough to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, love, hurts Herbert, stroud and burrow. He’s just not. It’s not physically capable of being one of them.
So you have to hope he turns into Peyton or Brady to be a top qb. You have to assume he’s gonna be that level of cerebral qb.
But there’s absolutely not reason to believe that. He does not have an elite processor, he has never been given full control over an offense, his mechanics aren’t consistent, and he’s not as accurate as Williams, Daniels, Nix, or penix!!!
Why is he a 1st round pick?????
A lot of this also has to do with positional ranking
if BPA is close then you take the most valuable position.
A DE like verse who might be the 30th best DE in the NFL is more valuable than JPJ who may become the best center in the game.
one can ask if the 30th best DE is better than the 10th best WR like odonze? some would say yes.
Is Qwantez Stiggers an enigma, cause he is already a successful pro who is only seen as a late day 3 pick?
So you have to be smart and know football to be a good drop back passer..so there is only two QBs in the draft worth taking the others will try to make it on athleticism/TB12 or PatM good luck
In some ways I’m concerned McCarthy might turn into Zach Wilson.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Willsons Carter now he’s not a jet
5:02 lmaooo leading with poise and composure is like when your buddy goes "she's really nice 😅"
Bowen sounds like the late Robin Williams.
Legette is probably the biggest enigma of this draft
Him and Brian Thomas jnr that late exposure to the game ect.
They could be anything
The more people try to sell mccarthy the more of a bust he sounds like. Bad short throws and no wow in his game is a long term back up
I don’t know what film you’re watching, but the guy is accurate. And he does have wow plays. He just never needed to make them. Don’t write him off until you’ve actually seen him use his entire skill set.
@@minkeymouceAn NFL QB guru made McCarthy a game manager…in college. He was the Brock Purdy…of the FBS. NOT, ONCE, EVER was the Michigan gameplan to just put the ball in JJ’s hands so he could lead them to victory in the air. Everyone saying he’s a 1st rounder is projecting more than an IMAX theater. But since I’m a Bears fan, I hope like hell GM’s take future busts like JJ, Drake, Jayden & Penix early so we get a second Top 5 player at #9
Totally. No thank you!!!
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Do you feel comfortable taking JJ McCarthy in the top 5?
If it's the right system
Say it's the Vikings
That's the one I'm thinking about
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I think Penix fits with the Vikings way better, they can pick a great defensive talent(such as Byron Murphy II) at 11, then most likely get Penix at 23 without having to trade up to get their guy. McCarthy would be way better with the Broncos in my eyes. Vikings are built for a passer like Penix
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These scouts overdue it with a player's measurables. They treat players like it's a slave trade. LOL. Once drafted a 3rd rd and 4th rd player will likely outperform a top 32 player with the perfect size, and RAZ scores.
Already loving this episode! Matt with the knowledge. Speaking of Matt would love for you guys to get Matt Waldman on the show sometime and talk about his favorites
That's always been a dream of mine too! Waldman has the most divergent views on a lot of prospects (compared to the rest of draft media).
JJ needs a better coach
Any opinion on JJ McCarthy that doesn't end with "ultimately the number of things he wasn't asked to do and when he wasn't asked to do them show you why he won't be successful as a pro" really shouldn't be trusted. If anyone trades up for him it'll set their franchise back 5+ seasons. McCarthy is the most likely reason the Vikings will lose Jefferson.
Justin Fields can't process post snap. He can make spectacular plays however he often misses the easy ones(mainly because of long release). However it always everybody fault but his that he didn't succeed. He's got more apologists than Trump...
Joe Milton has gotten so little recognition. Biggest rocket arm, a total dude, i mean his ball gets there in a hurry. Josh Allen got molded so can joe Milton.
Cooper to the Colts please
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Why is no one talking about Luke McCaffery. I’m starting to think y’all don’t know ball at all high level
We watched Charlie Jones last year
Did Matt Bowen think we would care about his high school coaching career?!?