The DESTRUCTION of Luke Skywalker
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2021
- We need Luke Skywalker! For decades, Luke has represented hope, optimism, and an unwavering belief in what is right. But somehow the sequels have completely destroyed him, and made him a shell of the person he was. Despite Mark Hamill's multiple attempts to save Luke character, Rian Johnson managed to destroy him completely in The Last Jedi, making him a milk swilling recluse, ready to die on a windy island.
But that's not what Luke Skywalker is about and that's not what Star Wars is about. In this video, I look into just exactly why we need Luke Skywalker and he is one of the most important heroes of our age!
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I loved your analysis here.
The reason why most Male characters are soo good and relatable is because they AREN'T written by keeping in mind to bring women down, where as it's the other way around with these females characters
The Mandalorian was a case of great writing male and female. Finally felt like a Galaxy far far away,, since Rogue One anyway.
@@sd81a46 even though it was good writing, a lot of what they did was just dig up things that have already been done, didn't take it anywhere new, too much fan service.
@@stevennorris7181 They gave credence to the character and behaviour of the characters of the story. It wasn't totally out of their arcs and established roles. It's not fan service if it believable for the characters to do what they did in the world of Star wars. Luke Skywalker acts like Lake Skywalker. There is no overpowered Mary Sue that learns the way of the force in a week at master level.
@@stevennorris7181 I guess for some of it yeah. Season 2 had too much filler and I wished in between the plot centric ones we a least got to learn more about Mando's past
The biggest issue I have when it comes to characters and their identity politics pit fall is how a writer's mindset is set on highlighting the identity and catching PC points rather than focusing on the character themselves and their stories. The people before them fought valiantly to gain access in spotlighting a specific identity that it inadvertently overshoots. The victimhood was kept even when the privilege was granted. A lot of the shows which highlight diversity had me doubting its writing for this specific reason. Although, I think some shows are finally getting it right, specifically, kids cartoons.
I'm a 45 yr old asian mom who grew up with the og trilogy... i saw myself as luke when i play with my neighbours... imagine me 3 decades later watching in the cinema with my family then han solo died just like that! Then the next movie saw luke disrespected... i stopped watching the damn thing!!!
That just *really* sucks 😔
I think you can blame Harrison Ford for that.
" i stopped watching the damn thing!!!" - but they already have had your money. That's it.
I too, am 45 and I loved the original trilogy. I've seen many movies that were not very good, but TLJ actually made me walk of out the cinema for the first time ever. I didn't bother seeing the next abomination. I feel sorry for kids these days, with what they are given for "entertainment".
@@silvernova354 I show only good movies including lots of 80s-90s movies to my nephew.
This was one of the MOST beautiful, heartfelt summaries of why we TRULY need heroes like Luke Skywalker! Well done!
Could not agree with you more and as a right old grumpy git who despairs at the antics, mindset and delusional Woke thinking of the young to see so many positive and strong agreement (which yours is the strongest) to the lady who did this UA-cam and I expect is under 30 is for me at 68 years old is a BEACON OF HOPE against the madness I see every day taking us to a 1984 hell world.
who said he died he's not dead, he's training.
TERRIBLE CHARACTER LUKE SKYWALKER RUINED HIS
You are right, people love to blame Ryan Johnson, but the real destroyers are this trio KK, JJ & RJ.
Hopefully, Filoni & Favreau will take over
Agreed! That last episode of the mandalorian was inedible and exactly what the audience wanted!
@@BaggageClaim I watched it 19 times with teary eyes
Same!!!
Dude, you had no idea of the civil war inside Disney/Lucas over Star Wars. I think Gina Carano was even BULLIED around thr time of your original post.
Also about their novels and new bullshit.
Watch Doomcock, he has great amount of information, news and rumors on Star Wars and other entertainment.
@@BaggageClaim I loved it too. Amazing episode. Luke is one of the best hero's ever.
Probably the best
Luke also represents something significant for our time, accepting the past and the negatives. Luke doesn't fight Darth Vader being his father, he owns it and prepares to make a sacrifice to try and make that right. He doesn't try to purge the galaxy of all evil, he tries to bring light wherever he can.
Great point!
Beautiful addition
Beautiful sir, beautiful
A positive and optimistic view that's rare today
Yes! He accepts what happened as a sort of cautionary tale and is able to act wisely and selflessly based on his knowledge. He doesn't resent Obi wan or the Order for failing to keep him good, he doesn't judge Darth Vader for the choices he made
My dad saw every Star Wars film in theaters. He was so excited to share that feeling with his own kids. He left the theater after seeing Last Jedi in literal tears. Not just because of Luke’s death scene, but because to him, his hero had died. Everything he looked up to about like was taken away and shattered. It was heartbreaking to see him go through that.
I'm sorry your dad had to go through this :( it's almost criminal what Rian Johnson, Kathlee Kennedy and others did to these characters that mean so much to us. Hopefully your dad was ecstatic when he saw the Luke Skywalker scene in The Mandalorian! :)
Bro, tell your father I did the same damn thing. There is no shame in it.
tell your dad Mark Hamill 100% agrees with him and the sequels are p much being ignored now woth the Mandoverse
@@b.chaline4394 The Mandalorian doesn't save Luke, it just reminded us of what we lost. We know that know matter how great he was, he will end up dying alone a bitter old man who when the need to save the galaxy came, he backed down. The force projection was not a hero's entrance because he was never really there. He accomplished nothing in that situation. Rey was the one that saved everyone by moving some rocks. His delay was meaningless.
So no, I doubt the Mandalorian meant anything to his father. Perhaps, like me, he hasn't returned to Star Wars since the Last Jedi despite being a die-hard fan for decades prior.
I took my son to see the last jedi. When we left the cinema I felt sick in th guts, and my son was confused. I had shown him the original movies and he loved it, he told me that this is not like Luke ...
This. This is the single greatest takedown of Disney Star Wars I’ve seen. You have articulated what’s wrong with the new movies. They’re not even really Star Wars.
Not canon for me. Only Original Trilogy is.
@@r-saint Me too!
@Dilligent Yeoman lol obvious troll is obvious
@Dilligent Yeoman you write like an insecure 14 year old
They're as much Star Wars to me as the Matrix was set in the Lord of the Rings universe, which is not at all.
They have the setting, they have the names of places/people/things, they have all the licensing, they even have all the fancy effects, but the soul is completely gone, it's no longer what made Star Wars, Star Wars, the characters behave uncharacteristically, they cram in whatever 'fan service' they can instead of writing good stories and don't even get me started on any of the plot holes or cheap plot devices - more than anything they just feel like shameless cash grabs with a Star Wars veneer and it's sad, plenty of people now even say that the prequels were better than the current movies, and people HATED the prequels
All we can do is hope for more involvement from dave filoni and john favreau so that we can get some good Star Wars again.
"I liked that Johnson was trying to drive home the point that greatness can exist even if you come from nothing, that it's not your lineage that gives you your potential."
And yet, even here, Johnson was making an inferior story that Lucas had already done better: Anakin Skywalker came from nothing, and his son didn't have much more than he did to start on, and Obi-wan became great though we never heard anything about HIS lineage, or even his background!
True but a Jedi having power in a week it took me years to be mad strong
Yes, the Skywalkers did have their lineage to start with, but hardly anything else (slave, clueless farm boy), so I think it at least shows you don't have to start powerful and famous to be great. But it is Obi-wan that really cinches my argument.
I would say that the fact that we don't know anything about Obi-wan's background just drives home the point that his greatness has nothing to do with his lineage or what he came from. His background is SO unimportant to what he becomes, we never hear a thing about it! It's entirely irrelevant!
Great points!
@themesongfan This is what happens when you design/write by committee. And the chief of operations not even knowing the story.
Yes, but I like the fact that RJ put out there that Anyone can become a Jedi.
My whole time watching the new star wars i just kept thinking 'wow the people who made this really hate men'
Also white men. I just felt so sorry for Poe - his character in the few last episodes was being scolded by Finn for absolutely no reason all the time. It made me sad.
They really hate Star Wars.
Why do you watch the movies then?
@@haroldb1856 they really hate everyone.
@@Getoverhere666 I like to know what kind of mistakes people are making.
I think what destroyed Luke, star wars in general and so many once successful franchises, like star trek and doctor who is the idea, that somehow got into the whole industry, that they are not entertainers but activists. That the political message comes first. That this message is what makes a movie, a show or a game great, not story telling or character development. That this message means that their product is owed the money, the attention and the praise of the customers.
Fans love for the Mandalorian is proving exactly your point. The one Star Wars project that does not try to push some message is the most successful thing Disney: Star Wars has done.
@@marks2807 I agree. I love Mandalorian and the casting was great. How often do we see a woman with large muscles in movies/TV?
@@mrenaep Sad thing is we use to see somewhat built woman in the 80s-90s, and they where sexy. Sigourney Weaver, and Linda Hamilton where both in better shape then most men back then, and men fond them super sexy. Women did not need to be super models to be main characters in action movies back then.
Hoo boy, and I'm trying to break into the print publishing industry as an author.
To a communist, everything is politics. It's that simple.
When you started talking about Mark Hamill and how much he loves the character and the fans i legit teared up. He has done so much to keep the legacy of Luke Skywalker and Star Wars alive and to see him get disrespected (both as an actor and as Luke Skywalker) is soul wrenching. I can't even imagine how those days filming the new movies must have been for him.
That makes two of us.
yeah well he cucked on twitter, caving into woke culture and defending the new vision so... yeah
You are spot on. I'm glad fans are pushing back against what Disney is doing to Luke, Han, Lando and really any Original Trilogy Character that they despise.
I like the new Luke alot better than EU luke
"they despise original trilogy characters"
Damn, you guys really have no idea what you even want, do you? Yes, they made Luke go through changes and you didn't like it, fine...but they also brought back Han and made him EXACTLY the same as he was in the original trilogy and you still hate it?
You're all so fucking indoctrinated by anti-SJW videos like this one. They're only goal is to want to make you as outraged as possible so they can get your outraged clicks. They portray everything they can as being "woke" or "anti straight white male" so you can be as outraged as possible and give them traffic. In the end they make money while you're just pissed off at everything and miserable.
@@BananaSandwich3000 You say that, yet here you are watching said Anti-SJW video. Your opinion is now completely invalid, please return to your own echo chamber or whatever hole it is that you crawled out of.
@@RokushoTheRavager I watched it because shit like this gets linked in other places to get laughed at for how hyper-sensitive you anti-SJW's have. "Star Wars is anti straight white male." Like WTF? Do you guys even hear yourselves?
@@BananaSandwich3000 "Do you guys hear yourselves"
1st off, I'm not saying that nor do I think that, because there wouldn't otherwise, still be compelling straight male characters, and 2nd off, I could ask you the same question, but self-reflection isn't one of y'alls specialties. Self-righteousness sure the hell is though, so you'll have to excuse me if your opinion offers no worthwhile value given what you just said.
Lucasfilm may not necessarily be anti-straight white male, but it's inherently obvious they dislike the original trilogy characters, and would like nothing more than to replace them with their own. Too bad their characters suck and they have no fucking clue how to write compelling characters that rightfully earn the same level of respect and adoration that beloved characters already have, so fans will always reject them. They'll figure it out eventually, once they've lost enough money that is.
This video is SO well done and explained! A big disappointment with the Palpatine return is that it took away the special moment of Darth Vader (Anakin) saving his son Luke.
they managed to screw up iconic events set um more than 30 years ago. Almost 40 now.
"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it." It's this phrase that makes me absolutely hate the phrase "Forget the past. Kill it if you have to." Fantastic video. Earned a like from me. You even brought a tear to my eye.
Luke was such a great character my childhood hero...then kathleen Kennedy came along and decided to turn him into a sad old white dude who sneaks into his nephews bedroom at night to murder him in his sleep....FACEPALM...Thank Rian Johnson the genius
Hate Kathleen and Rian! They ruined Luke
Seeing Mark like this and remembering his tweets and interviews around TLJ really breaks my heart. I'm a 40 year old woman, an amputee, who always looked up to Luke as a hero and a beloved character. TLJ nearly destroyed that and I only say nearly bc I only saw it once and refused to watch TRoS in theatres. It is disgusting what was done to Luke and even as a woman in dire need of female heroes to connect to...when Rey berated Luke and later stole his victory over the Emperor I began to agree that she was a Mary Sue of the WORST kind. Amazing video! Subbed!
6:05 "This could have been the perfect meeting of pure potential and distilled wisdom..."
Oh man, hearing this made me feel the loss all over again. Yes!! If we could've seen a Luke / Rey relationship that was closer to a mentor / mentee relationship where they learned from each other, it would've been 10x better. Instead we were given a crotchety old man who was a shell of his former self, doubted himself at every turn, and was eventually set up to be sacrificed for nothing. What a waste.
Agreed! It made me so sad to think about the potential they passed up on
Indeed. Perhaps he lost hope and was somewhat dejected when Rey finds him. But he decides to teach Rey in the ways of the force. Perhaps her enthusiasm and spirit rubs of on him as they practise. Perhaps he sees himself in her, his old self. Naive, full of hope and energy. Perhaps he saves everyone by training Rey. Perhaps she saves him by putting the fire back in his spirit.
A good message to young and old alike, that.
So they set out to save the day together and he dies heroically. All bitter sweet. At least he died like he lived, like the person he always was, deep down.
Ah well. Missed opportunity.
*spelling error, syntax, second language and all that, sry 😊
A white old straight man can't be a mentor of stunning and brave woman 🙄
The problem with subverting expectations is that your subversion has to be at least as good as the expectation. If you're subverting people's expectations with something worse, that's the literal definition of a disappointment.
This was why I didn't like "Oblivion", as that film started with a fairly positive premise of a triumphant humanity living out in space and ended up 'subverting' that into just another bunch of wasteland survivors skulking around in the shadows of the wounded Earth.
@@MarkJones-gt2qd Hello sir. As you've laid it out I don't really disagree with. The slow revelations that leave our protagonist free to eventually 'triumph' against the alien - yup. What bugged me about this progression was that the audience is given this initial scenario about human victory and subsequent life off planet that is turned to ash by the end of the film. Greater humanity is revealed to be scrambling in the muck by the end - so that was also a let down. Our hero's journey doesn't even neatly resolve into a happy ending, but instead the we got a clone convention showing up to crash the love shack party. The world we were left with seemed to be entirely worse than where we started.
However, what really sticks in my imagination are the extreme details the Alien A.I. placed into the environment to sell the fakery to its cloned humans agents. The biggest one is the the gorgeous living / working arrangements of the mass produced station. That upper living area and astounding swimming pool reflected a pretty deep understanding of human design sensibilities. It was super stylish, not something reflective of an alien who barely knew us might cobble together.
Secondly, the lower drone repair facility was a place our hero character worked on and repaired those drones. This means the mechanical insides of those probes were amenable to human repair using tools our hero character understood and plausibly with details like manuals our hero could reference, tools, replacement parts and whatnot. The implication I took was that the alien A.I. would have to have either A) granted the human an understanding of the details of repairing its technology in such a way that the human didn't even notice it was using really inhuman technology or B) Actually designed those drones from scratch to have insides that resemble human technology. Either answer would once again require the alien intelligence to have a pretty deep understanding of humanity. Not a pushover.
In the end, what dooms the Alien A.I. is essentially a failure to know about 'the oldest trick in the book' kind of human ploy. In this case a Trojan Horse sort of attack. For me this required the aforementioned deep understanding of human design, aesthetics, technology and so on to conveniently fail when it comes to defeating the hero character's attempt at a sneak attack. Essentially the ultra capable villain suddenly becomes clueless in the face of a plot armored hero. This for an alien who had to have already defeated and very likely studied the remains of human military technology during the course of its subjugation of Earth. I find this unconvincing.
To restate. I actually think you've captured a good portion of what the director probably was going for. But by using such gorgeous set and vehicle designs from such talented concept artists as those who made the film so beautiful, makes it simultaneously difficult to believe the alien intelligence wouldn't have seen that particular sneak attack coming a mile away and, plot armored characters aside, neatly nullified it.
More or less I wanted to see that triumphant humanity living out in the Solar System - not just be back in the muck with plucky survivors for the umpteenth time.
@@jasonp.1195 Thanks for your considered reply. Sure, there's a place for a better film about an entirely different story!
I liked it because, mainly, it fooled me. (sixth sense did it the best) and I do like Tom Cruise. The Edge of Tomorrow is my favo sci fi with him in, but he's done several good ones.
I was fortunate not to have seen spoiler for either film, so I got to enjoy the reveals. I especially loved it when he awoke back in the Army camp each time.
What I like about Oblivion is the set design. Plot holes aside, I love the lunch with his wife glaring at him too. I even sympathise with his coworker unrequited lover, it's tough....
Now, my favourtie reveal of all time would be the Matrix, except some pillock spoiled it for me long before the red pill. Still a great film, of course. NO captain, you men are already dead. At least I didn't realise at that point that this was the simulation.
Thing is, there are sooo few good or even decent sci fi that I'm pretty easy going.
Ghosts of Mars did nothing wrong.... :-)
@@MarkJones-gt2qd I also liked "Minority Report" with Tom Cruise.
@@jasonp.1195 quality filmmaking. I haven't seen a good film in years...I do enjoy "the critical drinkers" reviews altho he is a little sensitive to modern political overcorrectness.
He don't like daisy. But neither do I.
A really great take on Luke and and how the Star Wars movies as of late decided to break down their most famous hero of the series. Really like your analysis and think a lot of people that are huge Star Wars fans, agree. Makes me want to rewatch the movies again!
Yay glad to hear it!!
“Most famous hero?”
Jar Jar Binks would like to have a word with you.
Thank you for adding the scene of Star Wars Theory (9:58) reacting to Luke's return in The Mandalorian. I loved the scene, and as seen he did as well. However, he was attacked by Pablo Hidalgo, a Lucasfilm employee, that "emotions are not for sharing". I love Star Wars Theory's channel and videos, and I am happy that you showed his awesome reaction
Yes it was outrageous how Pablo mocked him. I loved his reaction. Luke means so much to many people
Don't worry, because now Pablo will never live that down. He'll forever be known as the man who wrote "emotions are not for sharing" to a die hard fan that reveres Luke as much as we all do, and he'll never have my respect for that.
Hey fellow gal!! Thank you so much for giving Luke Skywalker and Mark Hamil some love. He's my all time favorite character in cinema. My firstborn son is named after the hero that Mr. Hamil portrayed with such genuine humility, grace and outstanding bravery. My Luke will always be OT Luke. Not even a media conglomerate like Disney can take that away. 💚
I never understood why Luke was so keen to kill Ben when he, Luke, was the only person who saw first hand that people can change. That no matter how bad someone is (Vader), they can be redeemed. Luke completely gave up on Ben instead of teaching him what happened to Vader, and how he changed. Luke could've trained Ben to control the dark side, to give him balance. Instead, Luke continued to taunt him even to his own death.
Yes exactly!!
This was really great. Just watched it twice!!
Wow that’s wonderful!!
@@BaggageClaim sorry to double post - but you need to hear how much your videos are so, so adored and what a gem they are to teach Narcissism with (especially to those of all ages - from 19 to 80 I've shown so many and they were so absorbed in this perfect format - the sound and music use is ideal, too- for those who otherwise cannot focus- and who find the clinical stuff too intimidating! ) You are talented, well spoken, and such a good narrator! It's the right tone and everything! Not patronising, but also not dumb or irritating. I can't replicate it lol. Most can't, although they try (and fail.. wannabe broadcasters, they are unbearable, most podcasters etc are just irritating!) You are actually talented and I hope you carry on with this format - it's simple but effective. It's not tryhard or anything, and clearly it's working. You just need more shares and they will come. This is great.
You stand out though due to the real things- drop the star wars stuff cause that's already overflowing and a dying franchise ,tbh. Plus the real things (and starved for commentary such and Meghan and harry,) will only grow in audience.
Your channel is superb! I love it so much and have shared your Narcissist videos on my platforms, and shown them in real time to family and friends. .. so well done yet easily digested. Markle is such a toxic person and it's hard to understand fir people who are unaware of markle- let alone what Narcissism is. You put it so perfectly.
Please do more on them- Meghan controlling people around her and the toxicity of that, those red flags and how sheltered people don't see that coming etc.. I can talk for hours on hours about it. I know them in and out.. harry has Narcissism himself, no doubt! Spoilt beyond belief 🙄🙄😓.... But he exposed the horrid , ungrateful side of these people who we used to hold up to high standards.. 🤦♀️ sadly ,harrY is too dumb to see that nor realise what he takes for granted.. he is too busy trying to keep the biiiatch happy. Meanwhile she abuses us, her family, the public, servants, Press who are close to harry.. his friends and family etc... but harry was clearly OKAY with her abusing them all, us all, right? That's why I feel no pity for him. He's just as bad and not empathic at all... I laugh at people who ever thought he was 😂😓🙄.
.... More videos on them ,please.
Or one on amber heard And depp (again he's not an innocent but easily used , large ego's are easily flattered hence the users!). Same as the Kardashians n jenners 🤮🤮. Kris Jenner in particular, who's just sociopathic as heck (but smart, and good work ethic! Unlike Meghan Markle who's lazy and not even fun or sexy or energetic... At least Kris Jenner had that.. she charmed many many rich men and women- she also never made herself the public fodder.. Meghan is stupid and bring and deluded, however... 😂🤦♀️🙄) ....
Love your channel anyway, I hope you read this and follow suite. Happy to pay patreon or whatever too, as you have a great talent for speaking and of great content.. it's actually hard to find this stuff (especially of Meghan and harry which which only get bigger..) however the star wars analysis is extremely overcrowded as is- so please do more real person stuff instead of tired pop culture stuff that isn't real so isn't even realistic lol... Your Meghan stuff is so brilliant and rare. Such insights.
Appreciate it so much, thankyou for helping lives.. it's valuable education and so needed .. I'm.not even kidding. 🙏
Love from Australia.
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If you wanna see Luke the way he was intended go to legends even by the end of his life he is still learning shit and growing
Without the success of the original Star ⭐️ Wars movies, nobody would wanna watch the new ones. It’s pretty ironic that they’re trying to kill off the past
I agree :)
Yes. Such a great point !
This video broke my heart not just the stuff about Star Wars and Luke Skywalker but because it so speaks to this sad and misguided culture we are living in currently. The past is important and it should not be burned down. The bad and the good should always be remembered because without it we are truly lost. Not enlightened with the past erased but helplessly ignorant. I really hope the woke people actually wake up.
As a woman, as a woman who has been frustrated and upset at so much of what you are pointing out here, because I have been seeing this for so long now, as a daughter of a good man, as a mother of a kind and loving and brave young man, I love what you’re doing. We do NOT need to be arrogant and depreciating and female chauvinist pigs, to grow and be better. We are not entitled. And it’s not just okay when we screw up, we should have to own and face our mistakes like anyone should. It is not fair or strengthening to let us off. Or to hand us anything we want. And it isn’t just all good when women usurp male roles. Female leads should earn the following and loyalty like any other character. And the past is not something to tear down but learn from. And that was NOT the lesson of the last Jedi. Ok I’m done ranting. Thank you for your videos. Thank you for helping to build a better feminism! One that builds women up and makes us really strong.
Thank you for sharing everything you’ve said here. Couldn’t agree more.
Luke was my favorite hero growing up. His progression from idealistic farm boy to Jedi Master that refused to give up on his mass murdering father was always a story that really spoke to me. They butchered his character and his whole character arc. I never liked Rey because she didn’t have any character progression. You made some excellent points! Great job!
Omg you are amazing! This video of the past vs the present is SO well put together and so accurate, I almost can’t believe someone actually & truly understands why the past shouldn’t be “killed” and why the fall of Luke Skywalker represents the fall of critical and independent thought. I’m a mixed-raced American and, even though the past isn’t always kind, it is important and makes us who we are. Great great analysis and commentary. You got a new subscriber!
I find your world view important, thank you
I feel that for a Force User so in tune as Luke is, cutting himself from the Force would have been something like losing all senses and giving up dreaming.
I can't imagine how terrible would that be
You actually see how disconcerting that is for him in the Thrawn trilogy written by Timothy Zahn (it's either in the first or 2nd book of the trilogy). Luke knows instantly that something is wrong. When the Force comes seeping back, he feels like everything is right again, like his senses are no longer muffled. I think he even makes a visible sound of relief that catches Han's attention. Excellent series, if you've never read it. Another tragic victim of the recent movie trilogy... years of the Star Wars legendarium got tossed into "Legends" and no longer count as canon (we fans know better). Luke grows so much in the Star Wars extended universe, although he has to fight how his own hero complex can tempt him to fall toward the dark side like Anakin. Luke is not one to be consumed by despair; his idealism is more likely to be his downfall (even to the dark side) than anything else. The Luke of the original trilogy and of the extended universe was so disrespected by the recent movies. His character deserved better.
They wanted Luke to be Kreia but what they failed to realize was Kreia is her own character with multiple identities and an entirely different back story while Luke is Luke but they tried anyway and failed
Nah the sequel writers definitely don't even know who kreia is
Luke can't be destroyed. He is too big and too loved to be in any danger from those losers. The only thing they destroyed is their reputation.
I'm going even a step further: The sequels were so bad they even made most of the fans appreciate the prequels more.
This video is amazing. So extremely underrated. I hope the UA-cam Algorithm picks this up. Thousands of Star Wars fans who were disappointed with Luke’s arc would appreciate this.
I'm so thankful that Star Wars fans are coming forward left and right these days to voice their opposition to what's happening to the franchise. I've loved Star Wars since I was very young and have only grown my appreciation for it over the years. Ep 7,8, and 9 almost burned all that down for me. To see my favorite characters become hollow shells of their former selves was hard enough, but then they had all these new characters that were terribly written just step all over them. It was too much to watch.
Luke Skywalker was very faithfully represented in the countless iterations, cameos, side stories, and legends that surround the greater Star Wars universe. He's in games, comics, shows, and stories.. and he is always what it means to be a Jedi. To be honest and humble, thoughtful and forgiving. His actions follow the Jedi Code -- not platonically, not with a casual gesture, but in his heart and in every action. From the high level storyline to the slightest expressions that Mark Hamill brought to life so perfectly and so uniquely.
How such a clear and decisive character, who embodied so much and who touched the hearts of so many, could be so misrepresented and disrespected... I just don't know. It hurts my heart in such a unique and personal way that there's no true defense for it. I choose to use my experience with the newer Star Wars movies as reminders of how much I loved the old ones -- of how important the details of each moment in each of those movies were.
_Excellent commentary_ . Narcissism and contemporary ideology divided fans into two separate groups that might as well have enjoyed different franchises.
The originals' story were build on classics storytelling: an ethos, the heroes journey, grounded conclusions, fragility or fallibility with the chance to rise above in face of dire odds.
On a positive note: KK, JJ and RJ cured me of a 30 year addiction.
Mark Hamil was warning all of us the entire time....if only we listened
We did listen. There was just nothing we could do.
@@vetarlittorf1807 You could have refused to watch. I was out after The Force Awakens.
Wow what a breathe of fresh air, incredibly happy to hear someone with a straight viewpoint
This video is so beautiful I watched it twice. I felt something was wrong with the way he was being portrayed, and you explained it so well. To me, the real Star Wars movies are the old ones.
I loved the smooth way you weaved addressing the influence of politics into the natural flow of talking about the mistreatment of what is (or at least was) probably the single most iconic heroic character of our time and how much better off we are having him as an exemplar.
I totally agree with you. Luke’s destruction destroyed my partner especially as he was a major SW fan. He lost some of his childhood and so did I.
I think that’s why that scene The Mandalorian was SO important. We were given the Luke we love once again. I went from shock to hope to disbeliefs day finally to joy and HOPE for a return to the Star Wars I know and love.
You have so well articulated exactly what sits wrong with so many of us when it comes to how star wars has evolved. It's heartbreaking to see and know how Mark Hamill experienced this absolute abomination of an end. Well done.
This is the first video I've seen of yours and I am tearing up. It's so many of my feelings and I'm sure of many other fans who were heartbroken by the execution of Luke Skywalker as we loved him. Thank you so much for putting this work of art into the universe. I thoroughly enjoyed your points, analysis, and critique. I look forward to watching more of your content. Immediate subscribe!
thanks so much for the heart Baggage Claim!
Your analysis is very profound and you are able to explain difficult subject with ease. When I try and to explain to morons I end up just calling them doublethinkers and beyond stupid and move on.
Oh my god, THANK YOU for this video!!! 🙏
It sucks that in so much media today, creators feel the need to ruin/destroy established, iconic, and WONDERFUL characters (*cough* Luke *cough* Anakin) in order to make their new “heroes” look good. It’s just such a terrible message and ends up doing injustice to both the old AND new characters. Rey didn’t need to steal Luke and Anakin’s entire legacies to become a good character, cause quite frankly it backfired because she WASN’T a good character 😂
As a woman, it’s so disrespectful and sexist that female characters get treated this way, and then the creators call US sexist for not liking their Mary Sues??? Excuse me I am a girl who just wants to see GOOD female protagonists who don’t massacre the bestest of boys Luke Skywalker in the process, thank you very much 😂😂😂 Women are allowed to have flaws and weaknesses, and seek help from older generations to guide them. Luke became my hero a few years ago, so I didn’t get to grow up with him as many people did, but his (and Mark Hamill’s) treatment in the newer films broke my dang heart ❤️
They didn't respect the source material and the character in this film. A massive opportunity missed and a huge disappointment to so many people.
This was so good and refreshing. Almost cathartic. A great homage and proper respect given to Mark Hammil and the real Luke skywalker. I wish Mark Hammil could see this. I´m sure he knows the fans appreciate what he did for the fandom and character, but it´s always good to get rewarded for hard work. Amazing piece! Earned yourself a new subscriber!
This video made me tear up a bit, it's always emotional explaining why we love Luke so much and how he was torn down,.
The way they could handle Lukes was like this.
Make him be the one who personally met all his students or bring masters out of hiding, and despite advices from them he still trains kylo and despite he having visions of his betrayal he still trust him only to be betrayed and kylo still kills his students and friends.
Also make him so that at tha point he achieved another step deeper into the force where he can feel not just their deaths but their thoughs so the last thing they all feel is that they were right and that luke by trusting his nephew efectevely didn't trust them
Luke: "They were my friends my disciples! i force them out of hiding. They trusted me! but it seems... i didn't trust them....
This would imply that Luke realize he could be favoring his family over the other members of the order and will justify to a degree the reason to go into exile.
And while in that state he wasn't just lamenting himself he was studying and trying to find new ways to use the force or rediscover old ones
and he thought that he would not be able to confront Kylo for being close to the Dark Side if he ever tried and he had to wait for an unrelated party to deal with him, that they will decide if he deserves forgiveness or not.
Luke becomes Iroh from Avatar the last Airbender in a way then. Iroh saying he wasn't the right person to defeat Ozai is very similar to your thoughts here. Last Jedi could have been great with this take.
It's good to finally have someone accurately articulate the intense anger I have from these movies.
I watched the original trilogy so often as a kid that the VHS tapes stopped working. Just seeing the final battle scene between Luke and his father made me tear up.
Thank you for the video!
O My God,your clear,calming and straightforward ideas are everything that we fans of the pop culture feel about how they are destroying our past an the future of our children’s in a society with no struggle to be better nor be good with others...love you so much...this video will go to my daughter and nice that love the old and real Star Wars from deep in their hearts
Sitting and crying here after watching this video and realizing what cancel culture, woke culture und political correctness has done to all those great stories out there :( i just began to realize that it effects nearly every project thats coming out...
We still have Lord of the Rings, all is not yet lost
@@Rinesmyth I have hope 🙌🏼
@@Rinesmyth I'm from the future and let me say the trailer says otherwise
Yoda told Luke "Once you start down the Dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will."
During Luke's confrontation with Vader, Vader threatens Leia. Luke gives into his fear and his rage, and channels that emotion to not only attack, but defeat his father. Luke defeated Vader using the Dark Side. And then Yoda was proven wrong. Not only was Luke not consumed by the Dark Side, but Anakin returned to the light out of love for his son.
Yoda, and the Jedi order, were wrong. They were so afraid of the Dark Side that they labeled fear, anger, and love as the path to evil. They were so afraid that they outlawed fear. Between that and "Only the Sith deal in absolutes," its a wonder that droids weren't short circuiting left and right in the face of such logical fallacies.
The Jedi order failed Anakin. They were constantly telling him that he didn't belong. He was too old. Too scared. Too passionate. The guy was raised a slave, forced to leave his mother, and instead of being helped with his trauma, he was criticized for it. Of course he falls in love with the first person that doesn't treat him as inadequate, and gives his loyalty to a manipulative abuser as soon as the abuser gives him praise. Anakin wasn't evil when he was taken by the Jedi. His inability to follow the Jedi teachings wasn't a problem with him, but a problem with the Jedi. The Jedi took "bring balance to the Force" as meaning the destruction of the Dark Side. But Luke used the fear and rage to defeat evil, and then used love and compassion to redeem it. That's true balance.
But Luke apparently didn't take this lesson to heart, and simply tried to recreate the Jedi as they were. So it makes sense that history would repeat, and Ben Solo would fall. It makes sense that Luke would then become disillusioned with the Jedi. But it doesn't make sense that Luke would turn his back upon his family. That, for me, is the biggest betrayal of his character.
As Anakin said, your voice is soothing. It was an immense pleasure listening to this enlightened summary of all things the story writers fall short on. I feel they literally missed the point and tried to push an unwanted point of their own.
Just found your channel, and after just a few videos I would like to say thank you. More voices articulating what is wrong with the pop culture spirit of the age is an absolute necessity. Thank you for the clarity of your writing, the quality of your editing, and being gracious and sincere in defending the good that can be accomplished if everyone stays far away from the New Craziness that's rearing it's many ugly heads.
Cheers!
I love that Luke failed (in OG series NOT new trilogy), I know that sounds weird but I related to him so much with his anger and failure.Yet he succeeded in the end after being humbled and through SO MUCH WORK on his end and listening to mentors who cared about him. He felt so real to me as a character, my heart broke when they destroyed him. I wanted to be like the OG Luke, new Luke felt just so off to me when I watched the new movies.
Second video of yours I’ve ever seen… Brilliant! Absolutely BRILLIANT!!! Your analysis of the issues that face the day, by analogizing it to the travesty of how woke Lucasfilm execs mistreated a beloved character was superb! One didn’t have to dislike modern wokeness to understand what they did to Luke Skywalker, and one didn’t have to understand the legacy of Luke Skywalker to understand the problem of modern wokeness! This was the best analytical breakdowns of (not just) how wokeness destroyed a film franchise, but of how everything that came before does NOT necessarily equal everything bad, that I have ever seen! You are an excellent writer! You took complex social paradigms, and step by step, you walked the viewers through an evidentiary hearing, utilizing a film franchise we all know and love. But at the same time you demonstrated how both woke obsessed Lucasfilm executives, and filmmakers, destroyed not just a film franchise, but the legacy of its lead character Luke Skywalker, and its’ most stalwart supporter, Mark Hamill! Again, excellent job! I sense a very bright future ahead of you!
Wow thank you so much for this comment 🥰
@@BaggageClaim Well first, thank you for your extremely kind comment. Second, you are most welcome. I am not the type of person to leave fawning comments, but this video was so well deserving of my comment, had I not left it I would have been forever plagued by that nagging feeling that I forgot to do something important. I would wish you good luck, but I am sure your talent will take care of that for you!
The world needs more people with your level of rationale and sensibility. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us!
@ Baggage Claim; thank you for your voice and clarity.
Keep on keeping on.
I watched this video a year ago and was blown away by your insight into the deliberate destruction of a beloved character. I am a 75 year old Star Wars fan, as is my 49 year old son and 20 year old granddaughter. I just shared this video with her as you express so eloquently what we have discussed ever since the end of the sequels-the last one with a story so far fetched and convoluted I could barely understand what it was about. Then Luke was resurrected on the Mandolorian, and his treatment in the reviled sequel suddenly became a side note, a bad dream from which we awakened to remember all us not lost after all. The shared emotion as seen in the clips was very real-a hero was restored from the ether to continue on his original, intended path. As you said, “...and that’s why we all need Luke Skywalker.” Thank you, Baggage Claim.
Just found your channel a couple days back. Honestly glad to see I'm not completely crazy in how I view the world, be it politics or entertainment.
Hope you stay safe and keep up the great content!
- Fellow guy from Mumbai.
Well stated! Luke Skywalker was my hero growing up. I grew up in sn abused home and the idea as a young kid that I had jedi powers and was ment for something greater and to not turn to the dark side helped me.
I'll always remember Luke in the original trilogy's!
Hey! Hello from India.
I found this channel only yesterday and I am so happy that I did. Your videos are quite detailed and to the point. I'm kind of on a binging spree of your channel.
Keep up the good work. You deserve a lot more subscribers.
A very beautiful video. I saw The Return of the Jedi the first time when I was around four years old and the story, even at that time, sank deep into my emotions. The thought of a son inspiring his father to greatness has always been so moving to me that I always feel the tears when I remember that movie. I lived a good childhood and I am way into a good young adulthood. My adolescence, however, wasn't bad by any means but it wasn't good either. I hated someone that I love, someone that forged me into the good man I am today, and it was with the ability to forgive that person, and forget the anger I felt at the time, that I am where I am today, happy, and with the best family one could hope for. I forgave and he changed, for the better. Today I reflect, and I cannot help but ask myself how much of Luke Skywalker manifested in me on that pivotal day in my young life. Now I know that Luke inspired me to be a better son, a more patient, forgiving, and compassionate human being. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this. You literally summed up every issue I had with the sequels portrayal of Luke, as well as the issues with a lot of modern media. I miss the days when creating a good story was more important than pushing a political agenda in films
This video is all the thoughts I had but couldn't put into words. . . Thank you ❤️ subscribed immediately ✌🏻
This channel is quickly becoming my favorite on UA-cam and it is because you have something honest to say. You speak the truth and you speak it beautifully! Well done again!!
WOW goddamn that was hard to watch. i was hesitant to watch this fr, because it's fairly obvious what Disney has done wrong & how they fucked up and i find all the whining, criticizing, and hating (although justified) to be tiresome and triggering for me.
but most of all...
completely lacking an honest & aware critique of what was good about those films, and what they did right. but most of all lacking what I finally heard in this video that relieved me greatly and equally tore me open emotionally.
thank you, for that.
I've thought many times about these films, that are the closest to my heart, that kept me going as a child struggling with deep depression and self esteem from trauma & learning disabilities caused by abuse, and neglect. Star Wars was my escape, and so much more. it wasn't just fantasy it gave me the only happiness and hope i found by showing & teaching me things that no one else was or could by lifting my depression even momentarily, but most of all because the story telling and characters were so real.
for being sci-fi fantasy film story it had more truth n reality then i was being exposed to anywhere else be it school or religion n home. although it's set in a completely fantasical "world" the actual charactet development is solidly based in timeless truth and the core layer of reality that we often don't even see or touch in everyday life.
Lucas and all his crew were able to do that because of their values, their passion, and their drive to be innovative & creative while still staying grounded in the practical knowledge & limitations of the PAST.
Many of them especially Lucas had their art skills & goals informed by past-sed down knowledge from books like Campbell's Monomyth: Heroe's Journey & Hero with 1,000 Faces, and experience in Art & Film School. which is the past.
By embracing the knowledge, experience, and (very importantly) the limitations of the past they were able to take those boundaries, of what was possible both practically & theoretically, and push them farther than anyone else believed or imagined could be done.
that was the power they used. that same power Luke was finally able to harness to become a Jedi, to redeem his father, and defeat the Emperor.
if he hadn't accepted the PAST in the form that he was confronted by it:
FEAR.. of his Lineage, of the Unknown, and of further Loss & Tragedy.
ANGER..1st at his fate, then the Empire, at the Lies (by his trusted mentor Ben-Kenobi & everything he was taught) and all the Injustices of the Empire like killing his Family, the Destruction of the Jedi & the Republic (or Freedom) and of the Genocide of Alderaan.
HATING.. his situation on Dagobah his own Failure and Weakness, but most of all Hating Vader(before & after he learned the truth).
DESPAIR.. that things were so "Unfair!" and he was unable to leave the farm life and follow his friends & his own Dream, that he was helpless, alone, and powerless in the first place, then at learning the Truth finally which was the worst on top of the worst. basically not only was he just one person and a simple farmer at that who couldn't defeat or change the galaxy much less his own life and then he finds out what his place actually is in everything, what his own true family history is and what he is truly up against, and then for added pressure for temptation to darkness and to despair, he's told that the fate of the Jedi, the Rebellion, his own "Soul", and fate of the Entire Galaxy is all on him.
[did u catch that? "Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering."]
Talk about the Past being fucked up and overwhelming, and being tempted to say fuck it "Let the Past Die. Kill it.."
but this is exactly why I love SW & Luke Skywalker and always been more of a Hero to me than any superhero or other character. if he hadn't accepted to the past and learned how to overcome it then it would've all ended horribly, there would be no Jedi or Rebellion. there would be no story.
same for Lucas and his crew, if they hadn't accepted the past and what they could learn from it and How & What they wanted to change, so that they could come as close as possible to creating this absolutely grand vision that they all shared, then it would've either never gotten made. Or it'd be such a terrible film that it would've been forgotten. Or at best some over indulgent indie art film b-movie that only gets recognition & love from the fringes of weird scifi geeks & hipster film nerds.
(I'm not talking about those films, or type of people in a negative critical way. just making a point.)
Star Wars was a cultural phenomenon, and an epic success for a reason, that I hope I'm making clear.
They didn't say "fuck the past" they accepted it, and they paid attention and tribute/homage to it with love, while moving forward in completely innovative revolutionary ways.
Thank You to this channel for inspiring so much thoughtful reflection in me today. And for reAwakening my inspiration and LOVE for my favorite version (the Orig Trig + Legends),and what I believe is the REAL Luke Skywalker!
✌🏻 MTFBWY(All)Always!
Thank you very much for this. Makes me want to make a video on how I would start the sequel trilogy if I was either the director, writer, or producer.
I've subscribed to your channel also. Great work.
You can't let the past die. You would not be what you are today if you were not what you were yesterday and accepted that change.
In the Legacy of the Force novel series, Luke nearly kills his nephew (Jacen) after his wife has been murdered and his son (Ben) has been tortured by said now-Sith Lord nephew. During this incident, Luke nearly falls to the dark side. It is Luke's niece, Jaina, who is later able to successfully defeat her brother.
And it is so much better a story than Luke nearly assassinating a boy in his sleep for the crime of having a bad dream, and Rey Who overcoming every obstacle with little difficulty and zero personal sacrifice.
Just started watching your videos. Keep up the great work! :)
10:27 that moment he breaks down is devastating. also, KK killed luke and his story. she hates men.
she was like *"this is remarkable and good but too bad we have to tear it all down!"* This is literally on video
All women do.
They hate men for existing.
And we're done.
The destruction of Luke Skywalker did more than just end his existence in the films; it effectively ended all the good Mark Hamill used to do when he would dress up as Luke and go to children’s hospitals. Now, an entire generation has been cut off from Luke Skywalker the hero, and that is the most grievous sin of all.
Really loving your videos Baggage Claim.. very insightful. Thank you!
Baggage...you're a natural. After watching two of your videos I can say - you were meant to do this. People can watch what you make and actually change their mind. You don't have a lot of views but you're what I think of when I think of a UA-camr. Subscribed.
I'm glad I never watched. It sounds like nobody liked the new star wars movies.
Don't watch them. I really wish I could erase the experience..
You are so lucky if you haven’t seen it.
Thanks. I'll make sure I don't watch them.
I love your analysis! This is exactly what I felt when I saw the new Star Wars sequels. No character development. No wisdom gained. And only the past destroyed.
This is so true, and sad. I stumbled onto your channel, but I look forward to see what else you have to say. I am subscribed and will be sharing (I think) a lot of your content.
4:21 Finally someone calls that out. As a 21-year-old this is why I’m kind of starting to hate anti-Boomerism.
You are insightful, well spoken and intelligent. I like your thought process and am glad I subscribed to your channel.
I found your channel two videos ago and I must say “wow you’re good”. Really nice quality content, you definitely deserve more subs and views
Found you on the "Drinker's" channel. So glad. Super wise and measured reviews.
Thank you! And welcome!
This needs more views!
I just wanted to say, I really appreciate your perspective on this. You've articulated quite thoroughly what I was feeling.
This video brought me to tears. got a clear and sober eye. You get at points a lot of angrier voices can't express as clearly. I've watched several vids so far and learned a lot from your analysis about my own reactions and growing disinterest toward certain parts of pop culture. I love female heroes and was excited when we first encountered Rey but her character never progressed because she had nowhere to go. I'm pretty sure the thing Finn wanted to tell her was that she was a Mary Sue and when she healed that snake he was like, oh she must know already.
Excellent video! This is the second or third video of yours I have seen, and I wish I had come across your channel sooner.
You couldn't have explained it better 💚
Yes, yes, yes, I agree with you! And Luke is still my hero
"He shut himself off from the force - which is the modern version of turning off your phone, locking yourself in your room, and listening to Linkin Park all day."
😂😂😂😂😂 So true!
Great video! I agree wholeheartedly.
What they did with Luke felt more like they were trying to teach the audience something instead of continuing a story. That’s the core of their error, because people don’t watch Star Wars to learn lessons but to experience the characters and their journeys. These creators wanted to tear him down to get their story and themes going, but in doing so, they derailed the most important hero in the entire Star Wars saga.
I also hate how obsessed we have become with burning down the past, when there is so much wisdom there.
Perfect, I feel like you really nailed it in this vid. Very well said.
I love this channel ❤
Yay!
I 100% agree with every thing you said, Luke was my hero and my favorite character since I saw A New Hope, but the Last Jedi Came out and completely destroyed my favorite character, I was especially saddened to see that mark Hamil, the man who played Luke for 40 years, be devastated to what they did to Luke, I hope star wars can recover from this, but the fans will always remember what they did to one of the best character in the saga
How in the world am I just now finding this channel? Absolutely amazing commentary. My new favorite channel. Thanks for being awesome.
Brilliant. Thank you for this thoughtful video.
This just proves how great the Disney Plus series are with The Mandolorian season 2 finale giving us the Luke we deserved not some mockery of character we waited nearly 40 years to see again.
Luke being in that show was the single greatest disappointment
It totally undercut the conflict and the sense of danger that was happening in that moment
@@thenightman541 maybe but for fans it gave both us and Hamil the chance to see Luke Skywalker as he is meant to be not the joke that the sequels handed to us. and so although it may have undercut the finale it gave fans the chance to see him as we wanted not as we were given.
Incredibly well done! I just found this channel and it’s been blowing my mind.
Some of the lines you say really remind me of a line from the stormlight archive. One of the characters (without going into too much detail to prevent spoilers) has an incrediblely climatic moment where he basically says, if you erase what happened, my journey becomes irrelevant. I can't become a better man if I didn't start from somewhere and kept moving forward.