Yeah I'm curious too, where you from Nutsa ? You said you aren't from an english speaking country and I can't detect an accent, so it grabbed my curiosity. Also, really enjoying your videos.
For me the Prequels were an incredible feat regarding world building. Great dialogues could have turned the Prequels into much better films. But great world building created one of the richest universes there is to tell a story.
@@luckyowl10 Over time, I've come to appreciate the dialogue. Some of it is just not there, but when you look at the dialogue less seriously, the movies are great. They're wonderful when you take a step back and look at them from a less overly-serious perspective. The movies are funny, and I think George wanted them to be funny while still telling their story. You can tell they were made with love, and with fun. That's what makes them loved in hindsight, whereas the sequels are bland and hatted because of the lack of actual love and passion put into the story.
@@yohumanfrisk yeah, with its flaws, I love the prequels. The world building and exploration of Jedis make them my favourite part of Star Wars. Especially when you also watch the animated Clone Wars series. It builds up Anakin quite nicely before his downfall.
“It was great at world building” This is one of the strangest and most prolific myths I hear about the prequels. No, it did nothing in terms of world building, the world is made up of just terribly rendered CG city scapes, generic natural landscapes , or embarrassingly blatant derivations of existing landmarks on earth like how Naboo is just a space stand in for Venice. But yeah wow, I’m so glad I got to see Dexter Jeters teeny bopper 50’s diner. Wowwww the magic of Star Wars 🤮
Also the Duel between Obi Wan and Anakin lived up to the hype. The whole prequel triology was literally worth it for that one duel we all knew was comming. And it delivered.
Yeah, the prequels had the best lightsaber duels and the cheesy lines added to the charm. I can’t believe some people prefer the shitty sequels over the prequels.
The lightsaber battles were overly choreographed and too long, and any featuring Yoda were pathetic. Not to mention none of them had anything close to an emotional connection.
At least the prequels made the OT better, it builds up the story in the OT and expands the world. Suddenly Darth Vader and Luke's arcs, the fall of the Empire, and the Jedi rising back up have even more weight because the prequels provided us with the backstory to show us just certain characters fell to the Dark Side and how certain institutions were destroyed. The sequels just retroactively made the OT pointless and meaningless. They rob all of the main OT characters of having achieved anything important or lasting. They fundamentally destroyed major character arcs and also lack focus. Like the prequels helped establish Darth Vader's story and made him even more central to saga, but he sequels completely lacked any focus on him. Anakin is irrelevant to the sequels when he's supposed to be the main character of the entire film series. Not only that, they made the universe feels so small where the prequels made the world feel so big. In the end, even if you didn't like the prequels, they never caused any harm, they never made anything worse. But the sequels destroyed everything that made Star Wars Star Wars and replaced the iconic OT with an inferior versions of itself with inferior characters who only exist at the behest of tearing down legacy characters. That is why I and many others can like and even love the prequels but we will never accept the sequels.
I think there are too many people in camps afraid to say this. I find myself as someone who enjoyed the prequels, they had great moments and terrible ones. The bad ones often got used as jokes at home before memes became a thing. But as an adult I also understand that there could have been much done to improve them. I think the Sequal Trilogy showed die hard Origins fans what real story/character assassination feels like, though. That much is certain.
The prequels had balls, the sequels didn't. Even if the prequels were crappy films, they tried to do something different and even then were constrained in having to tie up loose ends. The sequels had so much creative freedom and they just played it so vanilla and haphazard. Great video Nutsa, glad I found this channel!
@@tehronmoment1367 The st is unimaginative destruction. All heroic deeds are bound to destroy something. Politics were to make people understand the emperors way of making his empire. What did you expect that he one day was there and said, hi now he is the emperor? And vader was not always in his suit. He started as a man and a child, but people always want to see battles and saberskills with no development.
I think one of the hugest differences is that the world of the prequels is interesting. That’s why there’s so much media around that era, you can tell that there’s an entire galaxy out there and the factions are interesting. There are genuine questions like “are the separatists really the bad guys?” Or “have the Jedi fallen from their old grace?” That can be explored. The rich word is why so many “what If” videos are made about it. On the other hand, the sequels feel like there’s nothing going on outside of the main characters story. We don’t know what the new republic is like, we don’t know what the first order is like - their power is so inconsistent throughout the trilogy. It doesn’t leave us with interesting questions or possibilities, I’ve seen barely any “what if” videos about the sequels. And that seems to reflect how the sequel World really isn’t interesting
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Idk? I really liked Phantom Menace. Genuinely think it's a great film, but I love taking my time with stories so I get why people thought it was long. I didn't like AotC much. Thought the romance was kinda clunky. (And I really love Padme/Anakin and am willing to make a lot of excuses for my ships.) But what kelt me watching was the *amazing* world building, the groundbreaking visuals, the chases n stuff and just how CREATIVE everything felt. It felt new and cool and it totally made sense too. It felt like a galaxy thta was lived in. Ima tell you now. The sequels had none of that for me. Generic as all get out. It just didn't feel like a galaxy. It felt like a movie.
That's because the Sequels and it's general timeline were nothing more but a lamer rehash of the OT's just with worse characters and worse world-building.
And also comparison to the OT, the sequels just leave nothing much to wonder. In the OT, we see the smaller Rebellion take on a much larger Empire and were practically desperate for whatever little win they can pull off. Its a hook for a lot of fans back then seeing s much smaller faction of good taking on an evil faction. Ep 5 and 6 just expands on that smaller story in Ep 4 into a much bigger scale which finally culminates with epic final battle on Endor with a huge Rebellion fleet that was built up from Ep 4. The Sequels? Idk.....New Republic gone....err.....they don't have a fleet I guess? Not even reserves or any fortress planets......hel.....we don't even know what the heck are the Resistance and First Order are fighting for........control of the galaxy? A superweapon? Sure but that was destroyed at the end of Ep 7 so....? Yeah, there's nothing to hook on to the world in the Sequels. The bad characters and just the entire mishandling of directors going back and forth certainly didn't help as well.
David Anderson 1 second ago Did they? The first one didn’t tell anything worth knowing in two hours of run time. And then at the end Anakin wasn’t so much seduced by the dark side, but tricked into it.
@@davidanderson4748 Phantom Menace showed us how Palpatine rose to the position of Chancellor, how Anakin was discovered, the political unrest in the republic/galaxy, the return of the Sith, and how the Jedi weren't on their A game. At the end, one of Palpatine's greatest feats of manipulation was in turning Anakin after years of building a connection. Anakin had a noble reason, prevent his pregnant wife from suffering the same fate as his mom, but Palpatine twisted it.
@@davidanderson4748 If you paid attention to trilogy then you’d know what you said to be false. You could say the same with like ok the OT and how he seemly because a Jedi master all of a sudden but if you were to pay attention, for both trilogy’s you’d notice there are major study building elements.
I was born the same year Phantom Menace came out. I grew up with the prequels. I have loved them since the first time when I watched them, being 6-7 years old. I still love them. I also like the original trilogy very much. It is a classic. Sequels... did not happen for me. One of the biggest, if not THE biggest, cinematic failures in history.
@BK Beatty I got that impression as well. TCW also tries to retcon some things and "Make the prequels better". Nowadays Disney sucks off the OT while trying to make everything lead up to the ST.
@@reek4062 but if you go back to watch them, the story is still good even if the tone or delivery was off. Episode one was extremely lighthearted and childish, and the first half of episode 2 was pretty boring, but the last half of AOTC was kickass and I’ll die on the hill.
The Prequels improved movie by movie. The sequels got worse and worse. Supplemental material greatly improved the prequels. Nothing has improved the sequels. The prequels didn’t destroy the legacy of a hero character. If anything it tried too hard to humanize a villain. That is forgivable. But nothing in the Prequels diminished the heroism, courage or greatness of Luke, Leia or Han. The Sequels showed that the OT was pointless. Palpatine was still alive. The New Order was basically the Empire. Luke was a bitter useless old man and Han and Leia didn’t live happily ever after. The prequels had too many villains but they were villainous. The sequel villains became feckless and ridiculous. Kylo is a petulant boy fans want to ship with the hero. Hux devolves into a buffoon. Snoke is killed quickly before actually becoming a menace.
Spot on, on every account except two: Darth Vader was already a humanized villain, and (this one’s kinda personal lol) the prequels didn’t have too many villains? Whatchu mean
@@christianschulz1443 I agree. Because the problem with the prequels wasn't the Story and characters, but its execution that was, lets agree on "questionable". TCW then removed the "questionable" execution. With the sequels, the execution wasn't the problem but the Story and characters itself.
@@mateuszmarciniak2828 there was quite a lot more villains, Maul, Sidious, the Aliens of the Trade Federation and the Confederacy, Dooku, Jango Fett, Grievous and the favorite of all, Darth Vader. I agree with you though that the quantity of villains wasn't a problem, but they are underused. I think that only the villains that appeared in all three films were really used properly, Sidious was shown as the great menace in the background and the aliens of the Trade Federation and the Confederacy were shown as puppets, and I think that this is what george wanted. Maul and Fett, are ok, but it wouldn't hurt if they had lived more, and in fact they had a lot of potential. Dooku and Grievous on the other hand were very mishandled, Dooku should appear on episode 1, as a Jedi helping the heroes, that way the audience would feel both the betrayal and the menace of this powerful Jedi. Grievous should have been introduced at least in Geonosis, or else he could have been erased and his role be given to a surviving Jango Fett.
_Revenge of the Sith_ remains my favourite Star Wars film. It's not perfect, but its story is an absolute masterpiece, the action scenes are epic, the comedy hits just right, and the tragedy cuts my heart out. The visual symbolism is superb, and the dialogue - although stilted and unnatural at times - is memorable because it was written to be so. It's why so many scenes in the film became memes; because they stick in your head, and can be used as cultural shorthand to convey ideas. Lucas learned the lessons of his previous two films, for the most part, and absolutely delivered the best film he possibly could. It's not a coincidence that most of the Star Wars spin-offs happen around RotS - either just before, during the Clone Wars, or just after, during the Rise of the Empire. It's because the fundamental narrative which Lucas created, and the characters he gave life to, were compelling and interesting. Plus, the visual aesthetic of RotS was absolutely mind-blowing. Compare that to the sequels, though - no vision, no story, tonal issues, inconsistencies, unlikeable characters, weak narratives... the list of problems goes much further than just "the dialogue was bad" or "one of the characters was goofy and I didn't like that".
you were probably a kid.. and you hold it dear to your heart! It's a pile of pants, convoluted, very pretentious and hold on by CGI.... the love story is ridiculous, the depiction of the petty jedis is not very well done... Andor has demonstrated how a star wars movie, should have been done.. with a great script! Hell, even Anakhim is not likeable at all... how can you relate to his feelings... 14 seconds of Palpatine and i guessed who he was going to become... massive throw down! Some years have passed and even i have re-watched them a couple of times.. i can't remember most of the movies... and except JODA's revamped Force phrase.. i can´t remember one other single epic line... except for Hello There!
Not sure I could replace the OT, but I definitely agree that Revenge of the Sith was the best of the prequels. I remember, even as a kid, being a bit disappointed with Phantom Menace, and being actually a bit bored with Attack of the Clones, but Revenge of the Sith brought all of that to its conclusion, and it delivered. It did everything it needed to do to to complete the tragedy of the prequels and lead into the original trilogy. Although Vadar's nooooooooo did take me out of it a bit. They weren't perfect, but they were actually telling a story.
@@NLuck-eh5cd Well the prequels were never meant to replace or be better than the OT. The prequels are there to complement and enrich the OT and put it into a grander perspective in an overarching narrative. Even if the PT had technical issues as films, those flaws are outweighed by the worldbuilding and added value they bring to the story as a whole, leading to a whole branch of prequel era spin offs like TCW. Though they could have been better, their existence at least had a beneficial impact to the narrative in the end. The same cannot be said for the sequels.
To me, it's simple. The Prequels were movies told by a passionnate storyteller. He loved the univers he created and wanted to share it with us. He was passionnate and managed to tell a consistent story, which, albeit flawed, was nonetheless very interesting to follow. Lucas put his soul into these movies. The sequels are made by a soulless company. There is no passion behind, there is no story to be shared, there is just money to be made.
The prequels were primarily made to make profit. Selling merchandise was prioritized above writing a coherent story or making relatable, likeable characters.
That's what I've been saying. Lucas for his talent at storytelling is probably not the best at writing romance. The dialogue at this was not the best, plus Jar-Jar. However Lucas still put heart and passion into it.
Her reasoning at 7:35 is exactly why I refused to consider the sequel trilogy cannon. They reset Han's character arc, making him the basically tolerable jerk that he was back in ANH, gave Leia force abilities to "make her more powerful and equal to Luke" when she didn't need them to be an amazing role model for young girls, and completely destroyed the optimistic "I can save him" Luke into a "Nah, my nephew is a lost cause, man" pessimist jerk. Not to mention KILLING ALL OF THEM OFF. Great video, Nutsa, you've earned another happy subscriber!
@@LuchtLeiderNederland That's a good point, I didn't think about that. I guess I'm mad that they ruined their characters and then didn't give us closure about how the three of them would interact in their old age.
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The first star wars thing I ever watched was the Clone Wars on Cartoon Network as a kid. Funnily enough I had no idea who Anakin was going to become. In my 10 year old head Anakin and Vader were two different characters cause I hadn't watched the movies. When I found out that anakin turned into vader... my heart broke in a million pieces. I don't know how many people experienced star wars this way, cause older fans were going into the prequels knowing exactly who Anakin was, but that emotional impact hit hard. Years and years later the emotional impact of Season 7 hits just as hard. For me the best thing about the prequels is that they let your imagination run wild. We got hundreds of stories based around Order 66 and it's such an iconic tragedy that has been retold in many many unique ways. The films are the tip of the iceberg inviting you to dive and check out everything underneath the surface, the sequels just don't feel to anything new. There's nothing except the battle of jakku that makes your imagination go. I used to love SW with all my heart, now it's been years since I watched a SW movie. Very sad, shame on Disney....
Omg, I literally had the same experience. 10 yo me played SW Battlefront 1 where Luke was mentioned, then I accidentally watched couple of CW episodes and assumed Luke was Anakin's dad lol. I have still no regrets about watching the movies in chronological order, because I was genuinely shocked by Vader plot twist
Exactly! I see this in fan content. For prequels and clone wars there's so much amazing fanfiction and fanart. A thousand scenarios and AUs (Alternate Universe), the expansion on clones (there's a whole ass culture made up for them) and the Jedi. These mind-blowing stories with complex, though out plots and spot on characters or these goofy or fluffy stories that aren't that good or accurate, but you still enjoy reading them. And then, you have fan content for the sequels and it's mostly Reylo shippers or those crazies who ship Ren and Hux (the na*i general that has that as the only personality trait, ugh). That's not saying there's not a good content for the sequels, but I hadn't really read a fic that stuck with me or that I would read again. And I love reading star wars fanfiction.
@@adaed4188Nowadays many popular franchises run on fan fictions. I think that’s a good thing since many fans have fresh ideas. It doesn’t need to be on a screen, it just needs to be good.
Same with me but i was a kid in the cinema in episode 3, it was the biggest movie surprise that i have ever experienced, its memory gold And to this day, every time i watch episode three, i cant help but i hope that anakin can be turned back to good by obi wan and get dissapointed in a strange sweet way P.s. nice to read similar experiences
I actually had that too! I grew up on Clone Wars, and when I saw Darth Vader everywhere in LEGO brickfilms, I was curious as to "Whos that? And wheres Anakin? I keep seeing Obi Wan, and this guy named Luke, but wheres Anakin?" On finally seeing the films in a rerun marathon that was in chronoligcal order of story, my heart was rended when I saw my favorite Star Wars character (next to the Clones who are great) turn into the biggest villain of the Classic trilogy. I could not believe it back then as a teen, and I still remember that heartbreak of watching Anakin be consumed and end up a monster.
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Prequels had a lot of issues, but those issues are complex and layered. It's not a clear-cut "this and this". With the sequels on the other hand, it's almost laughably simple.
@David Kovalev That would explain how it's been 22 years and we're STILL talking about the Phantom Menace. It's been 19 years since Attack Of The Clones, and it's the same deal there, and the same with 16 years since Revenge of The Sith, and we're still talking about that. The Sequels? Not so much.
@@dadawg3810 Here we have some else, how didn´t have watched the PT but give of his undeserved hate. "They were badly-acted, badly-written, and lacking any interesting story." This is exactly what you can say about the ST, but not about the PT, because if you don´t like the PT it is just your personal taste. And only a very small minority didn´t like the PT.
@@felixjohnsens3201 A small minority didn’t like the Prequel Trilogy? What are you basing that off of? The film got massive backlash from fans and critics upon release and is one of the most boring, uninteresting movies I’ve ever seen.
I enjoy your content. Ewan McGregor reportedly loved being in Star Wars. He specifically studied Alec Guinness in his role as Obi-Wan to get the voice tone and pacing. McGregor is also the nephew of Denis Lawson who played Wedge Antilles (one of the Red Squadron fighters) which technically makes him a second-generation Star Wars actor.
I saw a news article a while back saying that Ewan actually didn't like the prequels, and he called them some of the worst movies of his career. But then to promote the Obi-Wan show, he said in an interview that he was glad to see people turning around and liking the prequels. Just goes to show how opinions can change over time.
Alec Guinness actually REALLY hated being on Star Wars and being known for Kenobi. He really didn't like the writing or the fans. Ewan also hated the fans and doesn't like interacting with them. Which is fair.
The clone wars didn’t validate the prequels, the show exists because the world and conflict of the prequels so rich and cool in the first place. I don’t think you give the prequels their due credit in a lot of areas. Some of John Williams best music is in episodes 2 and 3 and I do believe that he rose to the occasion as a composer to provide for a timeless, powerful story. You do raise a ton of good points tho.
To this day i still consider Episode III as the pinnacle of star wars, the action sequences, the acting, the cinematography and visual narrative. Maybe the digital effects did'nt age well but that doesnt distract me at all for all the other great things the movie does.
@@grumpy_cat1337 The opening scene of Ep.3 is my absolute favourite of all Star Wars openings (and possible one of the best openings of movies in general). Drops you right in the action, makes it clear that this is still all out war and looks downright stunning. Especially the attention to detail even in background scenes you won't notice until you analyse the scenes thoroughly
One of my best friends who loves Star Wars like me said it best. We’d discuss the sequels when they came out and when it was over he said “The prequels had hokey dialogue and writing but at least the story made sense and was pretty solid. The sequels have better dialogue but the story makes no sense.”
The writing was not hokey at all. The sequels have massively inferior dialogue; it is standard, boring and bland with no style or character. The OT and PT both have 'wooden' dialogue which is superior. I really don't understand why you losers just repeat the programming; PT DIALOGUE BAD; the OT had the same dialogue style, but you guys ignore that. And you have to be literally brain dead to think that the Sequels have better dialogue than the prequels
Yes, "I am Rey Skywalker," and "Somehow, Palpatine returned" is such superior dialogue. Why do you prefer bland and boring, and standard, dialogue over the superior prequel and OT dialogue, that actually has style and substance of its own making? WOODEN DIALOGUE IS A GOOD THING AND PLAYS INTO THE OLD FLASH GORDON STYLE SERIELS THAT STAR WARS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SATURATED IN
Put simply, the reason the prequels were bad was execution. The reason the sequels were bad was that they had no substance. One flaw is infinitely more fatal than the other.
that's absolute bullcrap, the prequels are the essence of shallow, tell don't show movies. None of the main characters have any arcs, not even in Revenge of the Sith the plot happens and characters change to fit that as opposed to the sequels that do have character arcs, especially in force awakens, every main character has a good and visible arc. The last Jedi at least had it for Luke, Poe partly, Rey mostly and Ben, but that movie also had a theme, about Failure being the greatest teacher, no prequel has any theme despite what your theory videos say, they are such bland, shallow blockbusters
@@daniellukee2 the problem with what you're saying is that IF TLJ had have been a stand alone movie in a new cinematic universe then MAYBE it could be considered an OK movie. But the reality is that it wasn't. And even if it was, it doesn't stop the stupidity on display. 1) You cannot "deconstruct" a character off screen. Luke Skywalker would not act as he did in this movie without a substantial character arc involved. 2) Admiral Holdo was an idiot. The worst portrayal of a military commander I've ever seen on film. She was self righteous, arrogant and portrayed as a hero because of these traits. 3) Poe was absolutely correct in every decision he made in the movie and the movie made out like he was wrong. Any military commander would take the loss of a few bombers to take out the enemies greatest weapon. 4) Finn's character arc was completely undermined by the stupidity of Rose's actions. By all rights, if the story was any good, Rose saving Finn would have resulted in the deaths of all of the resistance fighters in the base. 5) The entire story on the casino planet was a waste of screen time that added nothing to the story. Pointless side quests are a waste of time. Personally I didn't care about the "Holdo manoeuvre", the rule of cool is applicable here. But failing at basic storytelling is not something that should happen in a $200 million movie
They're better films if you ask the general public, if you ask teenage sw fans on discord and reddit they'll say prequels are good films. The only reason i hear sequels are so bad on the internet is because you teens dominate yt and such. Everyone else that can see the mistakes in prequels see the sequels as masterpieces, compared to that of the prequels.
Prequel Had their charm & while people aren’t wrong to critize some Choices like overused CGI i love how Lucas had a Story in mind He wanted to commit to and it was Not Just trying to get as much fans as possible in. Talking about the Prequels he was interested in the Story & put thoughts Into it. It’s what Fans dearly missed From the Sequel Trilogy while it Had few Good characters like Kylo or Finn it was not consistent and Had heart till the end. Great Video
I just think our standards has gotten so low from the sequels that characters with some semblance of depth (read: not just one dimensional cardboard) is considered "good" now. If you ask me in 2013 whether characters such as Kylo and Finn were a good character, I'd most likely laugh at the idea.
overused CG isn't fair. Star Wars legitimately paved the way with the effects they were using. They were the first to apply these techniques. There was no template for too much or too little until these movies were released.
Great video as always! But as a lifetime prequel fan I must tell you that we don't "overlook the camp", we embrace it. Campiness is part of MY Star Wars. It's what makes it fun. We can have cool and deep stories with dark moments and also silly little characters and events. It wouldn't be star wars if it lacked one but had the other.
Lucas wanted to see his work live on. And ultimately he was pushed away by Bob Igor for doing so. Although it may never attain the level of his vision ever again. We (and he) can take solace in knowing that the Disney era will always be the shadow of Star Wars that ultimately shows the depth of George’s original body of work. We’re not sitting around anymore having the argument of whether the prequels or the originals stand well as Star Wars stories. Because now we know how much taller they all stand about Disney’s attempts. Pink Floyd is Roger Waters And Star Wars is George Lucas
I think the idea of the actors seemingly actually wanting to give a movie their all plays a huge role in it’s reception is an amazing point. I hadn't really given that much thought to it but it really makes quite a lot of sense. Great video!
TPM shows why Anakin is so important, his strong attachment to his mom, why Obi-Wan wasn't right teacher to him, why he hates Tatooine, Jedi rules, Palpatine becoming chancellor, world building, etc...And of course, podracing and Darth Maul. AOTC actually tells a great story (Palpatine's rise to power by manipulation Republic and Separatists, Anakin's progression of falling to the Dark Side, start of the Clone Wars), develops characters, shows us real war, new planets, species, ships, droids, world, and has strong connection with 1 and 3. What does ROTS show us? The largest battle in the Clone Wars, deaths of Dooku and Grievous, Kashyyk battle, Anakin's conflict with Jedi and himself, his weakness (save who he loves), which perfectly works with saving Luke, Palpatine's manipulation and rise to power, Order 66, 2 amasing final battles and the creation of Darth Vader and Empire, birth of Luke and Leia, new hope. It is meaning for the whole Galaxy and is the most emotional. TFA is a copypaste of ANH without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, etc... TLJ is not a movie, it's middle-finger to all star wars fans. Stupid jokes in each serious moment, ruining old characters, copy of OT, not answering any questions, breaking the lore, pointless sequences. TROS: Somehow Palpatine has returned, lol. AOTC is 100 times better than any of this hot mess.
I disagree, honestly I think that TFA is actually fun to watch, despite being ANH, they actually work well to set up good stories later on (which they failed at). Finn is a GREAT Character in TFA, and it could've been great until they messed it up in TROS and TLJ. TLJ..is a movie. The Jokes were actually well timed and not overused, they didn't ruin Luke either. I actually like Luke's usage in TLJ. It works, the way crait's battle ends with him is amazing, its what a Jedi should be. Of course, it gets kind of..yeah messed up, but it wasn't this end all be all people think it was. TROS is horrible. I won't deny any of that. TPM is boring, flat, and hard to watch. I can't stand it at all. I kind of understand whats happening, but its characters and dialogue suck. AOTC is only a bit better than TPM, it suffers from the same problems but at least is interesting and funny enough to keep me engaged. ROTS is fun to watch, it suffers from the issues in AOTC and TPM, but it works better. The characters feel better and the dialogue is massively improved and, the jokes are kind of funny. Still has its issues, such as Kashyyk being almost completely pointless. It only matters in Order 66. Another major one is how it feels separate from AOTC, it is too much of a time gap without anything inbetween for the average viewer. It is a sudden shift that feels off. It focuses too much on setting up the OT that it suffers as a result, yoda is completely mishandled and the characters are dumb as rocks.. the ST could've been good if it kept with the story line, and the PT is just flat and boring until halfway through AOTC and the entirety of ROTS. Even then, its only a little better.
I will always admire George Lucas's commitment to his vision. He saw something in it and even though it didn't succeed the first time, he was determined to finish what he started. He is like a hero in the form of a story teller. I hope I can be like him someday.
The story in the prequels is astounding, it's something that is needed to be told to show how the things in the Original Trilogy happened. The dialogues are my problems, and the way some scenes are acted out, even I somewhat cringe at Padme's line, and hell Natalie Portman is a great actor, Hayden Christensen is a Golden Globe nominee and hell, there are scenes where it felt off, it's the way Lucas direct some scenes, the characters here feel moe shakespearean, but the Prequels still works overall, it works even more with the help of Clone Wars, it made the Prequels more relevant. And the Sequels is something that is not necessarily needed, but is something that feels ok to do, and yet they did a bad job at it.
@@peterbenjaminparker8572yup. Lucas should’ve left the directing to someone else. Storytelling is what he he’s masterful at, not directing. Anakins fall/Palpatines rise are extremely good stories. With a great director I think the sequels could’ve been masterpieces in line with Jacksons LOTR trilogy.
Imagine being put in charge of Star Wars and NOT giving your absolute everything into honoring its legacy with a coherent plan and hiring the best writers on the planet.
Thank you. Yes, the prequels were not bad and I am glad people are finally stepping up and admitting it. The Prequels completed the saga as it was meant to be told. I love the prequels very much as it adds so much dimension to Anakin's character.
True. The prequels, while badly delivered, truly tell the story of how the galaxy was before “the dark age.” While the sequels basically boxes to appease SJW and ruined the majority of Star Wars in the process.
I think the Prequels were NEVER bad movies and they were misunderstood by the fans. Besides, I don’t agree with the popular view that without TCW the Prequels are garbage. In my opinion the 6 films are all appreciable on their own, TCW is just an expansion of the films. A good expansion, but not an expansion needed to improve the Prequels, because in my opinion the Prequels are appreciable on their own.
Exactly the prequels couldn't match up to main trilogy for multiple reasons, but they told an enjoyable story which is much more important than copy and pasting from successful predecessors and hoping that no one notices the plagiarism.
Yes, exactly. Everything needed is already there, you just gotta pay attention. The weird thing is, despite the defence of "you just don't like it because it wasn't what you wanted" is usually wrong and dumb, I do legitimately think it applies to the Prequels. Now, obviously the movies aren't perfect, they have their fair share of issues, but they're nowhere near as bad as a lot of people make them out to be.
Objectively it's difficult to argue against the Prequels many flaws. The ideas are certainly there but the execution is lacking. TPM and AOTC in particular are poor films. Anakin in The Clone Wars is a far more likeable, relatable person than his movie counterpart.
@@TubeEamo it's been said time and time again: a slave kid from a desert planet who went from serving under Watto the space juice to serving under the Jedi Order and the Republic can't possibly have any understanding of social interaction. that's why I've personally never took issue on how he carries himself in the movies. he's supposed to be awkward as fuck.
Because George and his team did not let go of the prequels, it's become my favorite era of Star Wars. I've been really enjoying your videos keep up the good work!
I really love the prequels for their storie, characters and worldbuilding. And it made Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader not only to my favorite Star Wars character but also one of my favorite characters in all of fiction, together with Thanos. And even with their flaws, I can still see what George wanted to tell with it: Like many complain about the "Are you an angel?" line. What do you expect from a 10 year old boy who has seen a beautiful girl for the first time? Or Anakins weird flirting. He was firting for the first time, what do you expect? Or that Padme was much older than Anakin in Ep. 1. They were only 5 years apart, Han and Leia were 10 years apart. I also never understood why people complain about Anakin being whinny in Episode 2. Luke and Ahsoka also started out whinny, to set the stage for something called character development . I never understood how people could overlook that. And I personally think Hayden did a very good playing a young disolusioned men who was told his entire life to surpress his emotions (Star Wars Theory did a good video about this topic). I am happy he returns to the Kenobi and Ahsoka Series.
Anakin/Vader has always been my favorite character in all of film too, and you're right, Hayden did a fantastic job. He fit the role extremely well, and he performed it great too. Most issues that could be argued for are with some of the dialogue, and even so it's not that hard to look past.
People are "i don't like sand" HAHA FUNNY. But if you look at the scene and take Anakins lack of any human interaction, especially romantic ones into account it makes sense. And the fact that it comes off as weird, yeah no sh1t you got the intention. This is what bothers me the most. When people understand what's happening and still are like "that's dumb, so i hate it". You are completely right.
Agreed. Anakin has been drilled to be emotionless his entire life as a Jedi. Makes sense then that, as Anakin, he never shows it and sounds robotic, but as the "more machine then man" Vader, he shows too much emotion. George Lucas always liked machine vs man. He just did it in one character. And yes, how would you, as a 10 year old, act? Yippee!
The Anakin Obi Wan lightsaber duel in Episode III makes up for all of the mistakes of the prequels. The fact that they go back and forth between that and Yoda vs Palpatine was just so well done and they put so much effort into it. It's my favorite sequence in all of Star Wars.
The entire final half of Revenge of the Sith is nothing but classic cinema. From the moment Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin, it's pay off to action to emotion and everything in between. Just about every single scene, line and shot from that moment on is memorable and classic. That, and the epic beginning of the movie? Easily my favorite movie of all time.
Prequels dialogue was weird sometimes but they still told a interesting and compelling story. The sequels felt like they were just trying to remake the originals in a confusing way with no direction whatsoever.
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TROS was as much Dark Empire as it was ROTJ. A shitty, watered down Dark Empire, but Dark Empire nonetheless. Luke's standoff with Kylo in TLJ was drawing heavily from something similar but much cooler that Luke did to his evil nephew in Legends. The ST was the OT mixed with cherry picked elements of Legends material.
I have a friend who watched all 6 SW movies recently for the first time. She's 23. The thing is, she found both prequels and originals really enjoyable. Of course, she admits flaws of both trilogies, like some scenes were unnecessarily long, some moments are cringy or not always have good acting and so on, but she still likes both trilogies equally - mostly, for an interesting story told by them. As for sequels, she's quite afraid to even watch it since she's already heard about such "brilliant" decisions like Rey Palpatine, Palpatine's resurrection, Luke's attempt to kill nephew and other stupid plot-twists which simply don't make any sense. And I completely understand her, ngl.
Honestly I get it. There's too much to be afraid of going into the sequels if you have any idea what is coming. In that sense spoilers can be a good thing. Can keep someone from walking into an ugly situation. Glad she enjoyed the first 6 movies. Honestly if I could erase my memories of having seen the sequel trilogy I probably would...
Honestly the Sequel Trilogy want downhill after The Force Awakens, which most of the hate is (and should be) episodes 8 and 9, but the trilogy was still salvageable after 8. 9 was very very very very very unfortunate
@@xxred_devilxx7196 TLJ was GARBAGE lmao. You think the prequels divided the fan base up? Nah episode 8 for the first time got a majority of the fans to want to get rid of the memory of seeing it. Episode 9 was expected to be a film that would commemorate all that was lost and to reunite the fan base. Instead it got 99.8% of the fans to never wanna watch Star Wars again
@@tornn8847 TLJ definitely divided the fan base, and 9 was “the last Hope” of undoing of 8 had done to the trilogy. But I rewatched all of the films (in timeline order) and the only ones that I didn’t enjoy and cringed watching were menace and Skywalker
I always liked the prequels ever since i was a kid and saw phantom menace I liked them. Fact is i like them more than the originals. I feel the sequels lack continuity and consequences… rarely do i feel that characters are in danger during the sequels and i feel they never really suffer for their actions like characters did in the originals or prequels.
It's always been my opinion that Revenge of the Sith was _peak_ Star Wars. The drama. The cheese. The CGI. The droids. The political subplots. The flashy lightsaber battles. The fanservice. But most importantly, the respect and love for the Original Trilogy present in every second of its runtime. Something that the Disney movies are sorely lacking.
The big thing for me, personally is respect for the story and characters. You can tell George Lucas tried his best and enjoyed expanding the universe. Was it perfect? No. Was it watchable? Yes. Can I say the same for Disney Lucasfilm? No. Seriously, all they need is to have someone at the helm who loves Star Wars to at least respect the IP.
'respect for the story and characters'? Like when Yoda was too stupid to see what happened right in front of him and eagerly committed war crimes? Like when c3po and r2d2 were shoehorned into the prequels for no reason? Or how Chewbacca was shoehorned into Revenge of the Sith to sell toys?
@@reek4062 You do realise those are story decisions right, that aren't done with utter disrespect? And moreover were done in the prequels, which aren't perfect, but don't destroy characters. I did say 'was it perfect no' to quote myself. Please re-read my original comment. Cheers.
@@reek4062 Agreed with shoehorning in C-3PO, R2-D2, and Chewbacca. This is an instance where Lucas made the Star Wars universe feel small, and using them for nostalgia and easy recognition felt lazy and unnatural. I don't mind Yoda making mistakes. There was a reason he was living in the edge of the galaxy in exlie, after all. Vader? Well, I can't say I ended up liking his story. The ideas that Jedi had to be celibate or that there was a prophecy were not things I'd have inferred from watching the OT. I would agree that Lucas didn't really respect his own canon. What he thinks is good for Star Wars is what's in his head the day of shooting. But it's his play thing, so I guess the only thing to say is he could do as he pleased until he sold it to the, ahem, white slavers...
no matter what you thought of the prequels they only made the franchise stronger and healthier, meanwhile the sequels had every advantage gifted to them and yet can barely get anyone to give a shit about them or inspire as many video games and books like the time after the prequels were released.
@@samuraigeorge71 you’re forgetting the massive amount of lore and video games, Lucasarts was an actual powerhouse of creativity and fun. But okay dude.
@@samuraigeorge71 No, he didn't sell his franchise because the movies sucked, they were great. He sold his franchise mainly due to people like you. The people that gave him unimaginable amounts of shit, simply because they didn't like the Prequels personally.
Normally I'm really not a fan of the "checkboxes" argument, buuuut in this case I think it really is part of the problem. It's not like there wasn't a diverse cast in the original and prequel trilogie, but it feels like they did it without trying so hard. Now they had to make a strong female lead, so strong in fact that she didn't even really have to try to overcome most problems. Then there was the hint of a romance, which they didn't even go through with but just faded out halfway?? Female leads are great, but why not take Lucas' original idea and continue after the original trilogie with Leia? There was so much material to make great movies out of, but Disney just had to wipe it all just to make some movies that didn't even have a plan.
Look no further than Rogue One to see a successful strong and confident woman and a diverse cast. The same boxes were checked, but they didn't make it the focus of the story. Where Rey felt like a lvl 60 skyrim character from the start, Luke, Anakin and even Jyn or Ashoka had to grow as characters to become a better version of themselves. Rey was already a jedi before meeting Luke. It felt really dishonest in my opinion, because you know nothing bad can happen to a woman in these movies, they are always honorable, compared to the evil men (like in Star Wars 8 with Poe and the pink hair woman). The same happened with Game of Thrones. Suddenly, when they ran out of books, every female character became powerful and unstoppable. Its just annoying that every woman has to be honorable and strong. It damages the complexity of a story heavily.
If you like this content and you read my comment by chance maybe check the video How Liberty Dies: The Politics of Star Wars by Arken the Amerikan it is awesome to understand how unrated prequels are regarding liberty democracy and corruption..
I'm someone who has always unironically loved the prequels (In fact Episode I in my favourite, fight me). Yeah they have clunky dialogue, but that just adds too the charm (and eminent memeablity). And outside the dialogue, they are very solid movies as a whole. Dosney Star Wars however is outright disrespectful to the canon. There isn't a single movie they made (well other than, debatably, Rogue One) that didn't horrifically retcon, undo and just make a mockery of the movies that came before it The Farce Awakens just up and destroyed the victory of the Original Trilogy, undid Han's character growth, destroyed Han and Leia's relationship, destroyed the New Republic and made Luke run away. The Lost Jedi destroys every one of JJ Abram's mystery boxes, it also made Finn, Poe, Hux and Snoke into jokes, completely destroyed Luke's character, destroyed just about the entire "Resistance", retconned the hell out of how space battles work, retconned how the force works and undermined all previous battles with _hyperspace ramming._ Solo made it so that Han went through THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER ARC THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. Also retconning the Millennium Falcon into having the mind of Lando's toaster girlfriend is something NOBODY asked for. The Rise of Palpatine retconned just about everything that Rian Johnson did, it also completely undermined Anakin's sacrifice in Episode VI by making Sidious just alive after exploding twice.
I would say Solo does that, but it’s a fine movie. It felt like a real character going through real journeys, which added to the depth he had later on, and added an overall impact to the saga by being a solid PT-OT movie, all while largely avoiding retcons or abandonments of old characters. To put it simply, it felt like a good classic EU type of story. I dislike Rogue One, but it’s still at least a good movie. The ST sucks
TPM is the most underrated movie in the whole series, imo. It showed a lot of ANH's themes off better than ANH did; compare Obi-Wan and Luke's relationship to Qui-Gon and Anakin's. The decision to show Vader as an idealistic, altruistic, and above all innocent child gives us a much broader perspective on who Anakin was, and why he was worth saving. And seeing how talented Anakin was makes his downfall that much more tragic, because we knew his gifts would be wasted. Also, Qui-Gon is GOATed. Easily top 5 Jedi in all of Star Wars media.
My personal opinion, don't anyone crucify me🙄 Episode one is meh, save for the cool fight at the end 2 used to be boring, because I didn't pay attention to/understand the political side of things, but afterwards was very interesting. 3 was my favorite because of Anakin's fall, Hayden being at his best in my opinion and the lightsaber duels were great
With the prequels I heard a lot of issues with the “I hate sand” and Jar Jar. But at least it was entertaining and it seemed like the cast was enjoying themselves.
The prequel trilogy is just like a cake with the frosting being a bit too sweet. The sequels is a cake with undercooked batter. Criticisms with the prequels can just be stemmed from surface level shortcomings. Sequels have something wrong with them on a fundamental level.
Such a good point about the clone wars show. I rewatched it when I was a bit older and Maaaan they really did a great job and explored many dark themes while simultaneously simply expanding the lore. It was so enjoyable and your point about Lucas Films not simply walking away is wonderful and it makes me appreciate them more. Great video!
I'm kinda blown away about how quickly you've improved at this whole video essay thing. In your video on Rey, It still felt like you were somewhat unused to talking charismatically to a crowd. Meanwhile, this video was quite pleasant to listen to, so props for that!
One reason I think the sequels struggled (and even the EU with how it struggled to move past hardcore fans) is that the OT is the end of Star Wars. There's your happy ending. While other stories might happen in the same Universe, they either won't be as grandiose in scale, or they'll predate the events of the ending. When all prophecies are fulfilled, all battles are won, the narrative need not carry on.
Not all battles are won after 6. An empire doesnt evaporate just because its leader died and they lost a battle. Its an amazing ending to the trilogy but its not an ending to all star wars stories. And although I consider anything that doesnt come from George Lucas as fanfiction, this is one of the reasons people love Heir to the Empire so much.
I think you forgot that the EU had a 25-book series about a galaxy-wide war with a race of aliens who invaded from outside the galaxy. That takes place between 25-40 years after Ep 6.
I would like to make a pledge for Jar Jar here. He is the hero of episode one. The only person who isnt prediced by sidious and the reason padme returned to nabo and get an army there. Another point is the great scene in ep two when he is giving palp the emergency powers amd how even good intentions can lead to the fall of justice and democarcy.
I felt sorry for him, in that Senate scene. The poor simp was sooo proud of the fine and dignified speech he gave...and it ended up setting things on motion to destroy the Galaxy.
The prequels for all their troubles are cohesive and have a narrative. It's not just themes, subversions for the sake of subverting our expectations thrown into a pot and mixed because they're cool. So while there are some dialogue, pacing, romance, etc. issues... if you looked at the broad picture it shows the Republic and the Jedi's many flaws and how it led to the rise of the Empire. It painted a very broad picture.
the prequels are not cohesive, though still more cohesive than the sequels. You can skip the Phantom Menace and miss nothing; it's an obsolete movie and terrible first movie of a trilogy.
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The prequel‘s were meant to be a different breed. Calling back to a more simpler time in the golden age of Hollywood. I have a feeling it’s meant to be more like the classic science fiction serials more than the original trilogy did. The prequel trilogy has a lot in line with Lucas’s first film THX 1138 as well which is going to be a lot of references over the years
I feel the Prequels were great stories that were just poorly executed. The Disney Sequels are absolute train wrecks that had no vision or passion behind them, let alone a plan of any kind. Lucas had a story he was passionate about and eager to tell. Disney doesn't care about the franchise and only want to produce product.
@@rsdillbot3646 I will never understand how people complain about that typical Star Wars dialogue. It's wonderfully old-fashioned and regal, and was specifical designed to sound exactly like it did. Loved it in the original trilogy, continued to love it in the prequels.
I never disliked the prequels. I loved Jar Jar as a character, I loved the memes, the banter between the jedi, that the stakes felt real, heck, I even loved the politics of the prequels because it was world building. You saw a bustling society of tons of people all living their lives and being affected by war. The "bad dialogue" was there sure, but it was cut short in order to fit into a movie format. Yoda's words of wisdom definitely has more weight in clone wars, but in the movie they didn't have time for a scene where a padawan is led into a room full of younglings by Yoda in order to teach them a lesson. Maybe that just goes to show that Star Wars works better in my opinion as a series. There is so much that can be fleshed out, but movies don't have the luxury of space.
Prequels were a _visual_ story. In every note, every shot was a tremendous weight that echoed through entire film. Just look at Maul vs Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan, the *Duel of Fates* The emotional buildup, the fight, the fear, the clashing of lightsabers in the lonely halls of Naboo's generator facility. An absolutely flawless set of scenes that literally _sing_ to you the plot through music and amazing choreography. As for Anakin vs Obi-Wan, no words can describe this fight. This sequence will be forever the most epic fight in literature/tv/anime/cinema for me. It’s a forever classic. They don’t do things like that anymore. And _Battle of The Heroes_ what a soundtrack to support that amazing fight in literal pits of hell. The swings between former friends, the jumps on metal platforms, the air-flips. I can talk and analyse this battle forever. It is truly legendary and ballsy. The fall of an angel which is Anakin Skywalker. Sequels have some _swoosh swoosh_ "fights" and weak plot. "They fly now?" Yeah Poe, they fly now… As well as in Clone Wars and OT.
Even though I'm not a huge fan of the prequels as films, I really like the story and lore they added to Star Wars. They had many creative ideas that could be expanded on overtime. The sequels were corporate products that were churned out so that Disney could cash in on their purchase with little consideration to Star Wars as a story and setting up an interesting world.
Oof, your line about the Sequels have to prove themselves better than anything which had been decanonised summed it up beautifully. When Disney announced the trilogy, I remember EVERYONE wanted Thrawn. Like, to the level of the seagulls from Finding Nemo chanting "Mine?" only we were saying "Thrawn?" I even overheard a conversation between Timothy Zahn, the creator, telling a fan about how if Disney had called him, he would have driven to the studio in six hours instead of the usual eight. So, yes! Thank you wrapping up this mess into such a neat package.
THANK YOU. Only thing I disagree is the Clone Wars argument, but it's my personal point of view. Nostalgia really takes its place for me liking the Prequels, but they feel more like a Star Wars movie than the sequels. Like the check boxes you said. The prequels had their check boxes, but to get to the Originals and answer the questions that they left in the originals. With the sequels, they are more like star wars-ish check boxes, to make them look like a Star Wars film and not BE a Star Wars film, and there is the difference. I really appreciate your content, and no worries on the pronunciation, I'm brazilian and sometimes struggle with it too.
Answering the title question before even watching, I offer "One set treated the source material with appropriate respect and was a project of passion. The other were the sequels."
It is thanks to the prequels that I became a Star Wars fan at all. I know they aren't perfect and I know they could have used more work, but at least they told a story without destroying the original trilogy. Also, The Clone Wars practically became Cobra Kai before it existed, because it made the prequels more enjoyable. The sequels will never have the same love from fans because it destroyed what the orginal trilogy gave us. The prequels might not be the best trilogy, but fans like me will always appreciate them.
My idea as to why Prequels were criticized - different story telling: Heroes fall (not journey) and world building (which not everyone can get behind which is understandable). - George had to many ideas - 30+ year time gap between the OT and PT ...things will get lost or forgotten. Now the PT had issues but they still had consistency, world building and NEW IDEAS..not mcguffin chasing and movie copy paste. There are similarities with the OT and PT but they parallel each other. Ep3 and Ep6 Dooku vs Anakin -- Luke vs Vader Dooku dies = anakin fails -- Vader is spared = Luke passes Sequel Trilogy offers no depth, gives us tropes and "subversive ideas" but with little to no pay off. Also story is extremely inconsistent and has NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. Anyway, thanks for the video analysis!
probably the biggest criticism was the awkward scriptwriting and pacing. since the beginning, george thought of good stories, but was not that good at making them a reality. the difference is that the OT scripts went though lots of revisions, while the PT scripts went largely unchecked. in a way, the rough draft made its way to the production
@@Underworlder5 I agree with you, lot of ideas needing trimming down. George can write a good story but it needs revision to tie loose ends. Though I felt he wanted to do this by himself as times in Hollywood changed when the prequels were in development. Studios had a lot of pull then and he didn't want that.
I go back to old reviews of the star wars prequels and just realize how many points are either wrong, stupid or equally apply to the original series “Anakin is an annoying brat” That’s the entire point of his character arc he spends his whole life being called the chosen one and told how great he is, this leads to him having a sense of entitlement that ultimately sets him up for failure and leads him to the dark side. Say what you want about how dearth Vader’s supposed to be a bad as, someone doesn’t become a cyborg space wizard dictator who chokes out his subordinates at slightest disagreement because they’re a well adjusted person. “Jar jar is annoying character for kids” What do you think the Ewoks were? Hell the Ewoks literally had their own animated kids show. “Space politics are too complex for a child to care about.” The original trilogy didn’t have space politics to the same extent but they did have space philosophy with a lot of really subtle ideas that I certainly didn’t fully grasp as a kid. “The characters aren’t memorable, you can’t describe the characters without naming their title” Luke sky walker feels entitled to great power he’s the type of guy who’s been told “you’re the best” his whole life. While he’s highly competent He can’t really deal with failure or the idea that something may be out of his control entirely. Quigon Jin is similar to obi wan In a lot of ways, very wise and patient but kinda a smart ass. It’s clear that obi wan try’s to emulate how his master behaved Count Dooku is peak “villain” big master plans and a self satisfied ego. I could go on but i think I’ve made my point. The only point I think really stands against the prequels is the poor acting and dialogue but from a pure story and entertainment standpoint they hold up well imo
When you read some of the criticism against the prequels from hardcore OT fans you realize a lot of them didnt really understant the originals to begin with. Vader was never supposed to be badass. Scary? Yes, but he was always meant to be pathetic. How do you see someone who can hardly breathe, is nothing more than an attack dog for the Emperor, is in constant pain and go like "damn, thats one cold badass mf"? One criticism in particular that has always bugged me is that you can not identify the main character of the TPM. How can you be a fan of A new hope and not immediately identify its Queen Amidala just like Leia was? You have the same composition with Obi-wan and Qui-gon replacing r2 and c3po as POV characthers. In the same note, people say qui gon is pointless and instead of the duo you could just have obi wan. I can say the same about r2 and c3po...
@@laisphinto6372 this right here. IHE, stuckman, the walkers, cosmonaut, they ALL refused to give the sequel trilogy even a fraction of the criticisms they hurled at the prequels despite the blatant issues on display. Chris Stuckman called Yoda using a lightsaber character assassination but what happened to Luke in TLJ was ok? Doug Walker straight up admitted im his review of TLJ that he ignored the films blatant issues. IHE cast people who hated TLJ and Ruin Johnson as toxic despite his videos on the prequels and George him self engaging in similar behaviors. The less said about RLM and Plinketts bad takes the better. The long and short of it is I dont trust the prequel hate circle jerk as not only were their takes surface level at best and out right wrong at worst, they werent willing to admit that Disney’s output was significantly worse than anything George ever made, and they were the ones that were cheering for him to sell off Star Wars. They get what they deserve
Your videos are so well edited, like it's nuts, especially for someone new to making videos (I think). Keep it up, you're doing wonderfully. You're better than you think :D
I will always say that part of the reason the prequels are viewed more positively now is because those of us who were kids at the time are old enough to have voices that reach far and wide, especially with the internet. It makes me so happy to know that so many people like me loved these films at the time and still fight for them. George will always be the greatest for me because he created something that was his own, stood by it, changed it if he felt necessary etc.
That’s definitely part of it but I have seen more than a few people who’ve changed their opinions on the prequels over the years, Espeiclsly after the sequels.
I hated how the old star wars fans treated the Prequel Trilogy i loved them although i do agree it has some problems there still enjoyable and interesting i remember the star wars fans that made a whole documentary about hating George lucas and Prequels sometimes i feel like they won they got the sequel trilogy which a Remake of the Orginal Trilogy that they loved but worse im glad more people appreciate the Prequels.
Nutsa, love you Star Wars fan! Love and support you. I'm SO glad you weigh in on this stuff. You are smarter and more insightful than most anything talking today. You earned yet another "sub" today. I will watch/listen to you for years to come plus tell my friends about you. Mostly because you are educated and wise beyond your years.
When I rewatched the fourth Star Wars film/First prequel, The Phantom Menace earlier this year, I was pleasantly surprised by how well it holds up! I mean, I can understand why it gets so much flack (it is a much different film than its predecessors), but at the same time, it was fun, it told an intriguing story, had the best sound design and music of ANY Star Wars movie before and after, but more so because it lived up its title of Episode I: It was the entire backbone of the Star Wars mythology, and the answers it provides to mysteries raised by the first three films are actually satisfactory and illuminating. And THAT'S how you follow up a tough act to follow: You answer questions raised by your prior work in a unique way and make sure that the answers are good.
The initial reception of the prequels was insane when they came out. It is honestly amazing how people see how old men bashing them on the internet is how they think people that saw these movies in theaters actually responded. By this same logic, someone 20 years from now will talk about how the Sequels were incredibly well received upon release, since the mainstream internet articles all talk about how good they were
I kinda had faith in J.J. back when TFA was first announced, but to say he and Rian Johnson (and the people at Mouse Inc.) dropped the ball would be an understatement. as for George Lucas, watching THX1138 and American Graffiti made me appreciate him more as a director. there's more vision and balls in a single frame of either of those films than in the entirety of the sequel trilogy. it's not like he lost it when he made the prequels. mistakes were made, but you can tell that something grand is going on, and honestly all the goofy stuff is part of the experience; that's what makes it memorable.
One major difference between the prequels and the sequels is that the prequels didn't have the media crying wolf and gaslighting the audience every step of the way. Like, imagine if Ahsoka premiered in this generation rather than 2008. The media would all be like "Anakin's STRONG INDEPENDENT new apprentice proves that women can be Jedi, too!" "Ahsoka proves she don't need no man to teach her the Force!" "Only toxic man-babies are stupid enough to dislike Ahsoka!" "A vocal minority is trying to tarnish the legacy of this PERFECT new icon for girls!"
The performative pandering of the sequels is disheartening, for they had such a great opportunity with the cast they had.. if only they were given a better story and could have actually made a difference
Ironically, initially Ahsoka was hated by the fandom back than, but that's because "Why Anakin has a padawan that we have never ever heard about in the Revenge of the Sith?" and not because of identity politics culture warring.
@@vladprus4019 also because initial incarnations of Ahsoka were incredibly annoying and stealing the spotlight from the characters we were interested in seeing. She got better over time, but I dislike how she's been slotted in everything Star Wars related lately.
What I always loved about the prequel trilogy is it had passion behind it, unlike the sequel trilogy which felt by the numbers, the prequels were made with a scope and vision to introduce fans to what the jedi were before the empire, and how the galaxy changed
This is possibly the most well thought-out take on these films that I have seen to date. I remember seeing Episode II in the theater. My friends and I had to wait for hours, so we could get good seats. I remember going "WTF?!" again and again during the ridiculous dialogue. I remarked at the time on how I had participated in middle school plays that were better written. Yet, looking back now, all that nonsense aside, those films were silly fun. Episodes VIII and IX, on the other hand, evoke no emotion other than anger in me. I cannot see how something would be able to change that view over time.
Liked episode 3 as it's a great action movie - and the prequels, if seen as as obi-wan's story, weren't that bad. Didn't even bother to watch the sequels after episode 7. Just couldn't bear the main characters. Regarding your comment about the pronunciations: Your english is perfectly fine. I'm not a native speaker myself, but could get every word you said. No worries. Reading taught you well.
@@jairusjackson7799 ROTS is my favorite movie of all time. And I'm the same way, I was disillusioned with Star Wars after TFA. Glad to see others like me exist too
@@Cos_Why_Not Have you tried watching the original six in the Machette order? It goes, episode 4, 5 then 1, 2, 3 and 6. It's the most satisfying order to watch, and the entire story just molds together perfectly. That's the problem with the Sequels, they just don't add anything, it doesn't feel like they belong in the story. The original six are a story about a father and his son, the last three are about some girl who likes to take people's things.
@@jairusjackson7799 I haven't, I usually just watch whichever one I'm in the mood for and usually with the attempt of going chronologically. I'll give it a shot though
The prequels told us the story of Vader and how he turned to the dark side so it can help us appreciate the originals allot more and ROTS was and still is in my top 3 favourite movies like the casting was decent
This is a clear cut case of vision vs regurgitation. I mean, we all already knew this. I’m sure many can agree that they felt at least an inkling of this when viewing the Sequels. For me I personally I felt it when I watched TLJ in theaters. The entire time there was just something… missing. It took me until a few months after that viewing when the backlash was leveling out that I realized what it was. The Sequels have no soul. I don’t feel anything from them except maybe some surface level emotions. Contrast that with literally any of the other movies there’s this feeling in my chest and this buzz in my head that just says to me that this is Star Wars. I can reciprocate and identify the passion that went into making those movies because it just feels… real. And that’s forever going to be the telltale sign for me
That experience is exactly what I felt when I watched TFA. I generally enjoyed them at the theaters, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought about the state of the galaxy in the movie, the more I realized just how terrible and hollow it was. Never watched TLJ or TROS and never will, but from everything I've seen and heard it seems they were even worse trashfires.
I also think nostalgia plays a big role in the now positive view of the prequels. Many of the fans are not fans that watched the originals when they came out and then saw the prequels years later but younger fans that grew up with the prequels. When my dad watched the star wars movies with me, we did it chronologically and I liked the prequels more. Why? Because I was an 8 year old kid that liked the epic lightsaber fights, droid smashing, big space battles and the humor more than the "calmer" nature of the original trilogy. Sure at some point I realized that the prequels aren't that good movies but it didn't really matter because the childhood memories of listening to the star wars audiobooks so often that I could literally speak along or pretending to be jedi with friends and fighting imaginary droid armees. You don't really see the big flaws as an elementary school student. My generation also really really loves memes and turns out literally every line from the prequel trilogy can be turned into a meme. The memes are funny and everytime I see one I also feel a little bit of nostalgia and not so bad for liking the prequels.
I was young enough to have the Return of the Jedi on VHS AND watch the Phantom Menace when it came out. I'd seen the OG but I was like around 5 or 6 so much of the story and its themes went over my head. Long story short I never got that Palpatine and the Emperor were the same guy like some of the older fans may have realized. My point is that I was old enough to watch the OG movies but I also grew up with the Prequels
@@antoineguerrier2965 No, but i began to suspect during the OG Clone Wars cartoons. They made him look a bit to creepy. I began to suspect before the Revenge of the Sith came out. You have to realize that i didn't know about the EU and i didn't get that the Emperor and Darth Sidious were meant to be the same guy. Hell when i was little i was confused why everyone was calling Luke Skywalker Anakin, me not understand what i was watching.
Every time i hear people complain about the acting in the prequels and i watch the prequels i never get what they mean. The story is so good that i don’t hear or see bad acting or any actors. I see a story being told Story is more important than acting and effects
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"The prequels had a story to tell, and the sequels had boxes to check" FACTS
Can’t you say that about the original trilogy?
@@rooracleaf561 no
@@rooracleaf561 Hell no.
@@rooracleaf561 no?
@@xaoz2362 The originals didn't have a story to tell?
For me the Prequels were an incredible feat regarding world building.
Great dialogues could have turned the Prequels into much better films.
But great world building created one of the richest universes there is to tell a story.
I thought there were great characters in the prequels aswell
@@theriddler506 there were great character. The only problem was that the dialogue was a bit bland.
@@luckyowl10 Over time, I've come to appreciate the dialogue. Some of it is just not there, but when you look at the dialogue less seriously, the movies are great. They're wonderful when you take a step back and look at them from a less overly-serious perspective. The movies are funny, and I think George wanted them to be funny while still telling their story. You can tell they were made with love, and with fun. That's what makes them loved in hindsight, whereas the sequels are bland and hatted because of the lack of actual love and passion put into the story.
@@yohumanfrisk yeah, with its flaws, I love the prequels.
The world building and exploration of Jedis make them my favourite part of Star Wars.
Especially when you also watch the animated Clone Wars series. It builds up Anakin quite nicely before his downfall.
“It was great at world building”
This is one of the strangest and most prolific myths I hear about the prequels. No, it did nothing in terms of world building, the world is made up of just terribly rendered CG city scapes, generic natural landscapes , or embarrassingly blatant derivations of existing landmarks on earth like how Naboo is just a space stand in for Venice.
But yeah wow, I’m so glad I got to see Dexter Jeters teeny bopper 50’s diner. Wowwww the magic of Star Wars 🤮
Also the Duel between Obi Wan and Anakin lived up to the hype. The whole prequel triology was literally worth it for that one duel we all knew was comming. And it delivered.
And that music! Battle of the heroes and the immolation scene. So… fucking… good!!!
Epic duel, epic music, a perfect conclusion!
still can’t believe Literature Devil called that final battle “boring” I normally like his videos but damn what a bad take
Yeah, the prequels had the best lightsaber duels and the cheesy lines added to the charm. I can’t believe some people prefer the shitty sequels over the prequels.
The lightsaber battles were overly choreographed and too long, and any featuring Yoda were pathetic. Not to mention none of them had anything close to an emotional connection.
At least the prequels made the OT better, it builds up the story in the OT and expands the world. Suddenly Darth Vader and Luke's arcs, the fall of the Empire, and the Jedi rising back up have even more weight because the prequels provided us with the backstory to show us just certain characters fell to the Dark Side and how certain institutions were destroyed.
The sequels just retroactively made the OT pointless and meaningless. They rob all of the main OT characters of having achieved anything important or lasting. They fundamentally destroyed major character arcs and also lack focus. Like the prequels helped establish Darth Vader's story and made him even more central to saga, but he sequels completely lacked any focus on him. Anakin is irrelevant to the sequels when he's supposed to be the main character of the entire film series. Not only that, they made the universe feels so small where the prequels made the world feel so big.
In the end, even if you didn't like the prequels, they never caused any harm, they never made anything worse. But the sequels destroyed everything that made Star Wars Star Wars and replaced the iconic OT with an inferior versions of itself with inferior characters who only exist at the behest of tearing down legacy characters. That is why I and many others can like and even love the prequels but we will never accept the sequels.
I think there are too many people in camps afraid to say this. I find myself as someone who enjoyed the prequels, they had great moments and terrible ones. The bad ones often got used as jokes at home before memes became a thing. But as an adult I also understand that there could have been much done to improve them.
I think the Sequal Trilogy showed die hard Origins fans what real story/character assassination feels like, though. That much is certain.
@@RndmBad, revenge of the sith is the only truly amazing prequel. The first two are heavily flawed but I did actually like phantom menace.
@@joeyjerry1586 Now THIS is podracing!
@@ryleighs9575 Come on now, that scene was sick.
@@TheHappyUruk I love every scene of Episode 1 lol!
The prequels had balls, the sequels didn't. Even if the prequels were crappy films, they tried to do something different and even then were constrained in having to tie up loose ends. The sequels had so much creative freedom and they just played it so vanilla and haphazard. Great video Nutsa, glad I found this channel!
The prequels should have been a series like the clone wars. Then it would be a complete masterpiece.
Sure. The SW prequels are like Lynch's Dune : we're still arguing about how bad it was 35 years after... At least you can't deny it was memorable.
The films were hot garbage I can at least watch the sequels a be entertained can't say the same for the prequels space politics lol
@@tehronmoment1367 The st is unimaginative destruction. All heroic deeds are bound to destroy something. Politics were to make people understand the emperors way of making his empire. What did you expect that he one day was there and said, hi now he is the emperor? And vader was not always in his suit. He started as a man and a child, but people always want to see battles and saberskills with no development.
@@danielschoch4881 that shit was boring and convoluted it was unnecessarily complicated for such a simple premise
I unironically loved the prequels when they came out, and I've only grown to love them more as time has passed.
You have bad taste
@@szymeq.haizaki4898 you have bad taste. Can't enjoy a movie just because it has appeal to children
I disliked and still dislike attack of the clones. But phantom menace is overhated and rots is tied for my fav with empire
@@aray1812 WHAT ATTACK OF THE CLONES? the soundtrack is awesome and story is good
@@anikinskinwalker4721 If story is good. I'm Iron Man.
I think one of the hugest differences is that the world of the prequels is interesting. That’s why there’s so much media around that era, you can tell that there’s an entire galaxy out there and the factions are interesting. There are genuine questions like “are the separatists really the bad guys?” Or “have the Jedi fallen from their old grace?” That can be explored. The rich word is why so many “what If” videos are made about it.
On the other hand, the sequels feel like there’s nothing going on outside of the main characters story. We don’t know what the new republic is like, we don’t know what the first order is like - their power is so inconsistent throughout the trilogy. It doesn’t leave us with interesting questions or possibilities, I’ve seen barely any “what if” videos about the sequels. And that seems to reflect how the sequel
World really isn’t interesting
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Idk? I really liked Phantom Menace. Genuinely think it's a great film, but I love taking my time with stories so I get why people thought it was long.
I didn't like AotC much. Thought the romance was kinda clunky. (And I really love Padme/Anakin and am willing to make a lot of excuses for my ships.)
But what kelt me watching was the *amazing* world building, the groundbreaking visuals, the chases n stuff and just how CREATIVE everything felt. It felt new and cool and it totally made sense too. It felt like a galaxy thta was lived in.
Ima tell you now. The sequels had none of that for me. Generic as all get out. It just didn't feel like a galaxy. It felt like a movie.
That's because the Sequels and it's general timeline were nothing more but a lamer rehash of the OT's just with worse characters and worse world-building.
@@death-king1834 ah, yes. the worldbuilding of the sequels, including wonders such as not-tatooine, not-hoth, not-tython and not-nar shaddaa
And also comparison to the OT, the sequels just leave nothing much to wonder. In the OT, we see the smaller Rebellion take on a much larger Empire and were practically desperate for whatever little win they can pull off. Its a hook for a lot of fans back then seeing s much smaller faction of good taking on an evil faction. Ep 5 and 6 just expands on that smaller story in Ep 4 into a much bigger scale which finally culminates with epic final battle on Endor with a huge Rebellion fleet that was built up from Ep 4.
The Sequels? Idk.....New Republic gone....err.....they don't have a fleet I guess? Not even reserves or any fortress planets......hel.....we don't even know what the heck are the Resistance and First Order are fighting for........control of the galaxy? A superweapon? Sure but that was destroyed at the end of Ep 7 so....? Yeah, there's nothing to hook on to the world in the Sequels. The bad characters and just the entire mishandling of directors going back and forth certainly didn't help as well.
At least the prequels told a consistent story across the trilogy.
Yeah, one film wasn't apologizing for the last one.
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Did they? The first one didn’t tell anything worth knowing in two hours of run time. And then at the end Anakin wasn’t so much seduced by the dark side, but tricked into it.
@@davidanderson4748 Phantom Menace showed us how Palpatine rose to the position of Chancellor, how Anakin was discovered, the political unrest in the republic/galaxy, the return of the Sith, and how the Jedi weren't on their A game. At the end, one of Palpatine's greatest feats of manipulation was in turning Anakin after years of building a connection. Anakin had a noble reason, prevent his pregnant wife from suffering the same fate as his mom, but Palpatine twisted it.
@@davidanderson4748 If you paid attention to trilogy then you’d know what you said to be false. You could say the same with like ok the OT and how he seemly because a Jedi master all of a sudden but if you were to pay attention, for both trilogy’s you’d notice there are major study building elements.
Exactly!!
I was born the same year Phantom Menace came out. I grew up with the prequels. I have loved them since the first time when I watched them, being 6-7 years old.
I still love them.
I also like the original trilogy very much. It is a classic.
Sequels... did not happen for me. One of the biggest, if not THE biggest, cinematic failures in history.
The prequels contain two of the biggest cinematic failures in history as well.
@BK Beatty I got that impression as well. TCW also tries to retcon some things and "Make the prequels better". Nowadays Disney sucks off the OT while trying to make everything lead up to the ST.
Exactly. I have wached the sequels once and will never do it again.
@@reek4062 but if you go back to watch them, the story is still good even if the tone or delivery was off. Episode one was extremely lighthearted and childish, and the first half of episode 2 was pretty boring, but the last half of AOTC was kickass and I’ll die on the hill.
I'm right there with you aside form being born a bit earlier.
The Prequels improved movie by movie. The sequels got worse and worse.
Supplemental material greatly improved the prequels. Nothing has improved the sequels.
The prequels didn’t destroy the legacy of a hero character. If anything it tried too hard to humanize a villain. That is forgivable. But nothing in the Prequels diminished the heroism, courage or greatness of Luke, Leia or Han. The Sequels showed that the OT was pointless. Palpatine was still alive. The New Order was basically the Empire. Luke was a bitter useless old man and Han and Leia didn’t live happily ever after.
The prequels had too many villains but they were villainous. The sequel villains became feckless and ridiculous. Kylo is a petulant boy fans want to ship with the hero. Hux devolves into a buffoon. Snoke is killed quickly before actually becoming a menace.
Spot on, on every account except two: Darth Vader was already a humanized villain, and (this one’s kinda personal lol) the prequels didn’t have too many villains? Whatchu mean
Prequels had 1 villain per movie plus Palpatine. I don't think it's "too many"
I dont think anything can fix the sequels to be honest
@@christianschulz1443 I agree. Because the problem with the prequels wasn't the Story and characters, but its execution that was, lets agree on "questionable". TCW then removed the "questionable" execution. With the sequels, the execution wasn't the problem but the Story and characters itself.
@@mateuszmarciniak2828 there was quite a lot more villains, Maul, Sidious, the Aliens of the Trade Federation and the Confederacy, Dooku, Jango Fett, Grievous and the favorite of all, Darth Vader. I agree with you though that the quantity of villains wasn't a problem, but they are underused. I think that only the villains that appeared in all three films were really used properly, Sidious was shown as the great menace in the background and the aliens of the Trade Federation and the Confederacy were shown as puppets, and I think that this is what george wanted. Maul and Fett, are ok, but it wouldn't hurt if they had lived more, and in fact they had a lot of potential. Dooku and Grievous on the other hand were very mishandled, Dooku should appear on episode 1, as a Jedi helping the heroes, that way the audience would feel both the betrayal and the menace of this powerful Jedi. Grievous should have been introduced at least in Geonosis, or else he could have been erased and his role be given to a surviving Jango Fett.
_Revenge of the Sith_ remains my favourite Star Wars film. It's not perfect, but its story is an absolute masterpiece, the action scenes are epic, the comedy hits just right, and the tragedy cuts my heart out. The visual symbolism is superb, and the dialogue - although stilted and unnatural at times - is memorable because it was written to be so. It's why so many scenes in the film became memes; because they stick in your head, and can be used as cultural shorthand to convey ideas.
Lucas learned the lessons of his previous two films, for the most part, and absolutely delivered the best film he possibly could. It's not a coincidence that most of the Star Wars spin-offs happen around RotS - either just before, during the Clone Wars, or just after, during the Rise of the Empire. It's because the fundamental narrative which Lucas created, and the characters he gave life to, were compelling and interesting. Plus, the visual aesthetic of RotS was absolutely mind-blowing.
Compare that to the sequels, though - no vision, no story, tonal issues, inconsistencies, unlikeable characters, weak narratives... the list of problems goes much further than just "the dialogue was bad" or "one of the characters was goofy and I didn't like that".
I feel the same. You put into words what many could not.
you were probably a kid.. and you hold it dear to your heart!
It's a pile of pants, convoluted, very pretentious and hold on by CGI.... the love story is ridiculous, the depiction of the petty jedis is not very well done...
Andor has demonstrated how a star wars movie, should have been done.. with a great script!
Hell, even Anakhim is not likeable at all... how can you relate to his feelings... 14 seconds of Palpatine and i guessed who he was going to become... massive throw down!
Some years have passed and even i have re-watched them a couple of times.. i can't remember most of the movies...
and except JODA's revamped Force phrase.. i can´t remember one other single epic line... except for Hello There!
@@txusicBsounds like a you problem, and I completely disagree.
Not sure I could replace the OT, but I definitely agree that Revenge of the Sith was the best of the prequels. I remember, even as a kid, being a bit disappointed with Phantom Menace, and being actually a bit bored with Attack of the Clones, but Revenge of the Sith brought all of that to its conclusion, and it delivered. It did everything it needed to do to to complete the tragedy of the prequels and lead into the original trilogy. Although Vadar's nooooooooo did take me out of it a bit. They weren't perfect, but they were actually telling a story.
@@NLuck-eh5cd Well the prequels were never meant to replace or be better than the OT. The prequels are there to complement and enrich the OT and put it into a grander perspective in an overarching narrative. Even if the PT had technical issues as films, those flaws are outweighed by the worldbuilding and added value they bring to the story as a whole, leading to a whole branch of prequel era spin offs like TCW. Though they could have been better, their existence at least had a beneficial impact to the narrative in the end. The same cannot be said for the sequels.
To me, it's simple.
The Prequels were movies told by a passionnate storyteller. He loved the univers he created and wanted to share it with us. He was passionnate and managed to tell a consistent story, which, albeit flawed, was nonetheless very interesting to follow. Lucas put his soul into these movies.
The sequels are made by a soulless company. There is no passion behind, there is no story to be shared, there is just money to be made.
I know this is an old comment but I just want to point out that you said "prequels" instead of "sequels".
@@chlocoal7205 Damn, thanks for the heads up, I corrected it.
@@Para0234 No problem.
The prequels were primarily made to make profit. Selling merchandise was prioritized above writing a coherent story or making relatable, likeable characters.
That's what I've been saying. Lucas for his talent at storytelling is probably not the best at writing romance. The dialogue at this was not the best, plus Jar-Jar. However Lucas still put heart and passion into it.
Her reasoning at 7:35 is exactly why I refused to consider the sequel trilogy cannon. They reset Han's character arc, making him the basically tolerable jerk that he was back in ANH, gave Leia force abilities to "make her more powerful and equal to Luke" when she didn't need them to be an amazing role model for young girls, and completely destroyed the optimistic "I can save him" Luke into a "Nah, my nephew is a lost cause, man" pessimist jerk. Not to mention KILLING ALL OF THEM OFF.
Great video, Nutsa, you've earned another happy subscriber!
You're right about Han and Luke, but Jedi Leia isn't something the writers of the sequels came up with.
Killing them all off is fine, ONLY if they are reunited before dying which the sequels didn’t do.
@@krugbit9642 I am now realizing that you are correct, but I still hate it lol. She didn't need that to be amazing.
@@LuchtLeiderNederland That's a good point, I didn't think about that. I guess I'm mad that they ruined their characters and then didn't give us closure about how the three of them would interact in their old age.
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The first star wars thing I ever watched was the Clone Wars on Cartoon Network as a kid. Funnily enough I had no idea who Anakin was going to become. In my 10 year old head Anakin and Vader were two different characters cause I hadn't watched the movies. When I found out that anakin turned into vader... my heart broke in a million pieces. I don't know how many people experienced star wars this way, cause older fans were going into the prequels knowing exactly who Anakin was, but that emotional impact hit hard. Years and years later the emotional impact of Season 7 hits just as hard.
For me the best thing about the prequels is that they let your imagination run wild. We got hundreds of stories based around Order 66 and it's such an iconic tragedy that has been retold in many many unique ways. The films are the tip of the iceberg inviting you to dive and check out everything underneath the surface, the sequels just don't feel to anything new. There's nothing except the battle of jakku that makes your imagination go. I used to love SW with all my heart, now it's been years since I watched a SW movie. Very sad, shame on Disney....
Omg, I literally had the same experience. 10 yo me played SW Battlefront 1 where Luke was mentioned, then I accidentally watched couple of CW episodes and assumed Luke was Anakin's dad lol. I have still no regrets about watching the movies in chronological order, because I was genuinely shocked by Vader plot twist
Exactly! I see this in fan content. For prequels and clone wars there's so much amazing fanfiction and fanart. A thousand scenarios and AUs (Alternate Universe), the expansion on clones (there's a whole ass culture made up for them) and the Jedi. These mind-blowing stories with complex, though out plots and spot on characters or these goofy or fluffy stories that aren't that good or accurate, but you still enjoy reading them.
And then, you have fan content for the sequels and it's mostly Reylo shippers or those crazies who ship Ren and Hux (the na*i general that has that as the only personality trait, ugh). That's not saying there's not a good content for the sequels, but I hadn't really read a fic that stuck with me or that I would read again. And I love reading star wars fanfiction.
@@adaed4188Nowadays many popular franchises run on fan fictions. I think that’s a good thing since many fans have fresh ideas. It doesn’t need to be on a screen, it just needs to be good.
Same with me but i was a kid in the cinema in episode 3, it was the biggest movie surprise that i have ever experienced, its memory gold
And to this day, every time i watch episode three, i cant help but i hope that anakin can be turned back to good by obi wan and get dissapointed in a strange sweet way
P.s. nice to read similar experiences
I actually had that too! I grew up on Clone Wars, and when I saw Darth Vader everywhere in LEGO brickfilms, I was curious as to "Whos that? And wheres Anakin? I keep seeing Obi Wan, and this guy named Luke, but wheres Anakin?"
On finally seeing the films in a rerun marathon that was in chronoligcal order of story, my heart was rended when I saw my favorite Star Wars character (next to the Clones who are great) turn into the biggest villain of the Classic trilogy. I could not believe it back then as a teen, and I still remember that heartbreak of watching Anakin be consumed and end up a monster.
A note: PLEASE, PLEASE for the sake of god igonre some mispronounced words.
Look, I'm trilingual and most of my vocabulary was formed by reading so please don't be that person.
My English is something I really worked hard on for many, many years and I'm still learning. Give me a space to grow. 🙏
Feel free to criticize what I speak and not HOW I speak it.
tbh I barely notice, your english is really good. Great video, by the way, I like the direction you're going in with these recent videos, keep it up!
May I ask what your other languages are? Your English is great!
I listened at double speed and your English was great 👍.
"Igonre" ironic
Trilingual?!? That's like the ultimate get out of jail free card.
Also, great video!
Prequels had a lot of issues, but those issues are complex and layered. It's not a clear-cut "this and this". With the sequels on the other hand, it's almost laughably simple.
Not all of them. Many of them can be excused as being overambitious (like the politics), Hayden's dialogue and the out of place comedy can not.
@David Kovalev
That would explain how it's been 22 years and we're STILL talking about the Phantom Menace. It's been 19 years since Attack Of The Clones, and it's the same deal there, and the same with 16 years since Revenge of The Sith, and we're still talking about that.
The Sequels? Not so much.
Lol what? It is clear-cut. They were badly-acted, badly-written, and lacking any interesting story. Why make a kids movie about political strife? 😴
@@dadawg3810 Here we have some else, how didn´t have watched the PT but give of his undeserved hate. "They were badly-acted, badly-written, and lacking any interesting story." This is exactly what you can say about the ST, but not about the PT, because if you don´t like the PT it is just your personal taste. And only a very small minority didn´t like the PT.
@@felixjohnsens3201 A small minority didn’t like the Prequel Trilogy? What are you basing that off of? The film got massive backlash from fans and critics upon release and is one of the most boring, uninteresting movies I’ve ever seen.
I enjoy your content. Ewan McGregor reportedly loved being in Star Wars. He specifically studied Alec Guinness in his role as Obi-Wan to get the voice tone and pacing. McGregor is also the nephew of Denis Lawson who played Wedge Antilles (one of the Red Squadron fighters) which technically makes him a second-generation Star Wars actor.
I saw a news article a while back saying that Ewan actually didn't like the prequels, and he called them some of the worst movies of his career. But then to promote the Obi-Wan show, he said in an interview that he was glad to see people turning around and liking the prequels. Just goes to show how opinions can change over time.
Alec Guinness actually REALLY hated being on Star Wars and being known for Kenobi. He really didn't like the writing or the fans. Ewan also hated the fans and doesn't like interacting with them. Which is fair.
The clone wars didn’t validate the prequels, the show exists because the world and conflict of the prequels so rich and cool in the first place.
I don’t think you give the prequels their due credit in a lot of areas. Some of John Williams best music is in episodes 2 and 3 and I do believe that he rose to the occasion as a composer to provide for a timeless, powerful story.
You do raise a ton of good points tho.
1 2 and 3 buddy
Prequels are trash without tcw
@@Guy117. prequels are way better than og trilogy
@@anikinskinwalker4721 hilarious
@@Guy117. so much more important stuff happens. Jar jar is hillarious
To this day i still consider Episode III as the pinnacle of star wars, the action sequences, the acting, the cinematography and visual narrative. Maybe the digital effects did'nt age well but that doesnt distract me at all for all the other great things the movie does.
wdym, the effects did age well, it looks stunning to this day. The battle of Coruscant is the prime example, still looks awesome and breathtaking.
@@grumpy_cat1337 The opening scene of Ep.3 is my absolute favourite of all Star Wars openings (and possible one of the best openings of movies in general). Drops you right in the action, makes it clear that this is still all out war and looks downright stunning. Especially the attention to detail even in background scenes you won't notice until you analyse the scenes thoroughly
Revenge of the sith and the last 4 episodes of clone wars and empire strikes back have to be some of the best star wars content in the world
The visual effects have aged beautifully lmao.
Episode III is the best indeed.
One of my best friends who loves Star Wars like me said it best. We’d discuss the sequels when they came out and when it was over he said “The prequels had hokey dialogue and writing but at least the story made sense and was pretty solid. The sequels have better dialogue but the story makes no sense.”
Even that isn't true, the dialogue is horrible in every sequel movie
It's not even that good. "They fly now?"
@@maddizzle1744 they fly now!
The writing was not hokey at all. The sequels have massively inferior dialogue; it is standard, boring and bland with no style or character. The OT and PT both have 'wooden' dialogue which is superior.
I really don't understand why you losers just repeat the programming; PT DIALOGUE BAD; the OT had the same dialogue style, but you guys ignore that. And you have to be literally brain dead to think that the Sequels have better dialogue than the prequels
Yes, "I am Rey Skywalker," and "Somehow, Palpatine returned" is such superior dialogue. Why do you prefer bland and boring, and standard, dialogue over the superior prequel and OT dialogue, that actually has style and substance of its own making? WOODEN DIALOGUE IS A GOOD THING AND PLAYS INTO THE OLD FLASH GORDON STYLE SERIELS THAT STAR WARS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SATURATED IN
Put simply, the reason the prequels were bad was execution. The reason the sequels were bad was that they had no substance. One flaw is infinitely more fatal than the other.
@@a.39886 I saw part of the video, is great, but for some reason don’t stuck with me
The prequels aren't Bad though
that's absolute bullcrap, the prequels are the essence of shallow, tell don't show movies. None of the main characters have any arcs, not even in Revenge of the Sith the plot happens and characters change to fit that as opposed to the sequels that do have character arcs, especially in force awakens, every main character has a good and visible arc. The last Jedi at least had it for Luke, Poe partly, Rey mostly and Ben, but that movie also had a theme, about Failure being the greatest teacher, no prequel has any theme despite what your theory videos say, they are such bland, shallow blockbusters
@@daniellukee2 the problem with what you're saying is that IF TLJ had have been a stand alone movie in a new cinematic universe then MAYBE it could be considered an OK movie. But the reality is that it wasn't. And even if it was, it doesn't stop the stupidity on display.
1) You cannot "deconstruct" a character off screen. Luke Skywalker would not act as he did in this movie without a substantial character arc involved.
2) Admiral Holdo was an idiot. The worst portrayal of a military commander I've ever seen on film. She was self righteous, arrogant and portrayed as a hero because of these traits.
3) Poe was absolutely correct in every decision he made in the movie and the movie made out like he was wrong. Any military commander would take the loss of a few bombers to take out the enemies greatest weapon.
4) Finn's character arc was completely undermined by the stupidity of Rose's actions. By all rights, if the story was any good, Rose saving Finn would have resulted in the deaths of all of the resistance fighters in the base.
5) The entire story on the casino planet was a waste of screen time that added nothing to the story. Pointless side quests are a waste of time.
Personally I didn't care about the "Holdo manoeuvre", the rule of cool is applicable here. But failing at basic storytelling is not something that should happen in a $200 million movie
They're better films if you ask the general public, if you ask teenage sw fans on discord and reddit they'll say prequels are good films. The only reason i hear sequels are so bad on the internet is because you teens dominate yt and such. Everyone else that can see the mistakes in prequels see the sequels as masterpieces, compared to that of the prequels.
Prequel Had their charm & while people aren’t wrong to critize some Choices like overused CGI i love how Lucas had a Story in mind He wanted to commit to and it was Not Just trying to get as much fans as possible in. Talking about the Prequels he was interested in the Story & put thoughts Into it. It’s what Fans dearly missed From the Sequel Trilogy while it Had few Good characters like Kylo or Finn it was not consistent and Had heart till the end. Great Video
Exactly, the prequels are perfectible but have soul, the sequel is soulless and purposeless. Except money of course.
I just think our standards has gotten so low from the sequels that characters with some semblance of depth (read: not just one dimensional cardboard) is considered "good" now.
If you ask me in 2013 whether characters such as Kylo and Finn were a good character, I'd most likely laugh at the idea.
overused CG isn't fair. Star Wars legitimately paved the way with the effects they were using. They were the first to apply these techniques. There was no template for too much or too little until these movies were released.
Oh stop it. "too much CGI" isn't an arguement.
Did he? There isn’t five minutes to Episode I that adds anything to the story. It’s two hours and twenty minutes of treading water.
Great video as always! But as a lifetime prequel fan I must tell you that we don't "overlook the camp", we embrace it. Campiness is part of MY Star Wars. It's what makes it fun. We can have cool and deep stories with dark moments and also silly little characters and events. It wouldn't be star wars if it lacked one but had the other.
I always feel so bad for George Lucas. Every time I see these interviews and hear the utter regret in his voice I nearly cry
Considering he retired on this art project of his... I'm less choked up.
I doubt George Lucas is as sad when he remembers how much money Disney gave him
@@beejoo7237 pretty sure he gave all that money to charity :/
Lucas wanted to see his work live on. And ultimately he was pushed away by Bob Igor for doing so.
Although it may never attain the level of his vision ever again. We (and he) can take solace in knowing that the Disney era will always be the shadow of Star Wars that ultimately shows the depth of George’s original body of work.
We’re not sitting around anymore having the argument of whether the prequels or the originals stand well as Star Wars stories. Because now we know how much taller they all stand about Disney’s attempts.
Pink Floyd is Roger Waters
And Star Wars is George Lucas
@@coochiha He's also spending a fuck ton of his own money to build a star wars museum from what I remember.
I'm so happy that she's getting sponsors, she's starting to get the recognition she deserves :)
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@@Max_Casetera AHHH General Kenobi
@@Max_Casetera Wrong
@@lukescrew1981 i don't remember what line come after the "you are a bolt one"
Sweet kid
I think the idea of the actors seemingly actually wanting to give a movie their all plays a huge role in it’s reception is an amazing point. I hadn't really given that much thought to it but it really makes quite a lot of sense. Great video!
TPM shows why Anakin is so important, his strong attachment to his mom, why Obi-Wan wasn't right teacher to him, why he hates Tatooine, Jedi rules, Palpatine becoming chancellor, world building, etc...And of course, podracing and Darth Maul.
AOTC actually tells a great story (Palpatine's rise to power by manipulation Republic and Separatists, Anakin's progression of falling to the Dark Side, start of the Clone Wars), develops characters, shows us real war, new planets, species, ships, droids, world, and has strong connection with 1 and 3.
What does ROTS show us? The largest battle in the Clone Wars, deaths of Dooku and Grievous, Kashyyk battle, Anakin's conflict with Jedi and himself, his weakness (save who he loves), which perfectly works with saving Luke, Palpatine's manipulation and rise to power, Order 66, 2 amasing final battles and the creation of Darth Vader and Empire, birth of Luke and Leia, new hope. It is meaning for the whole Galaxy and is the most emotional.
TFA is a copypaste of ANH without any logic, good characters, with stupid jokes, infinite coincidences, which retconned whole OT: Empire hasn't fallen, Han and Leia are not together, Luke left everyone like a coward, etc...
TLJ is not a movie, it's middle-finger to all star wars fans. Stupid jokes in each serious moment, ruining old characters, copy of OT, not answering any questions, breaking the lore, pointless sequences.
TROS: Somehow Palpatine has returned, lol.
AOTC is 100 times better than any of this hot mess.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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My only regret Is I can't like your comment more then once
I disagree, honestly I think that TFA is actually fun to watch, despite being ANH, they actually work well to set up good stories later on (which they failed at).
Finn is a GREAT Character in TFA, and it could've been great until they messed it up in TROS and TLJ.
TLJ..is a movie. The Jokes were actually well timed and not overused, they didn't ruin Luke either. I actually like Luke's usage in TLJ. It works, the way crait's battle ends with him is amazing, its what a Jedi should be.
Of course, it gets kind of..yeah messed up, but it wasn't this end all be all people think it was.
TROS is horrible. I won't deny any of that.
TPM is boring, flat, and hard to watch. I can't stand it at all. I kind of understand whats happening, but its characters and dialogue suck.
AOTC is only a bit better than TPM, it suffers from the same problems but at least is interesting and funny enough to keep me engaged.
ROTS is fun to watch, it suffers from the issues in AOTC and TPM, but it works better. The characters feel better and the dialogue is massively improved and, the jokes are kind of funny.
Still has its issues, such as Kashyyk being almost completely pointless. It only matters in Order 66. Another major one is how it feels separate from AOTC, it is too much of a time gap without anything inbetween for the average viewer. It is a sudden shift that feels off.
It focuses too much on setting up the OT that it suffers as a result, yoda is completely mishandled and the characters are dumb as rocks..
the ST could've been good if it kept with the story line, and the PT is just flat and boring until halfway through AOTC and the entirety of ROTS. Even then, its only a little better.
Facts. ✋😌
I will always admire George Lucas's commitment to his vision. He saw something in it and even though it didn't succeed the first time, he was determined to finish what he started. He is like a hero in the form of a story teller. I hope I can be like him someday.
It flawed, but very enjoyable, a real journey that we never see from sequel
The story in the prequels is astounding, it's something that is needed to be told to show how the things in the Original Trilogy happened. The dialogues are my problems, and the way some scenes are acted out, even I somewhat cringe at Padme's line, and hell Natalie Portman is a great actor, Hayden Christensen is a Golden Globe nominee and hell, there are scenes where it felt off, it's the way Lucas direct some scenes, the characters here feel moe shakespearean, but the Prequels still works overall, it works even more with the help of Clone Wars, it made the Prequels more relevant. And the Sequels is something that is not necessarily needed, but is something that feels ok to do, and yet they did a bad job at it.
@@peterbenjaminparker8572yup. Lucas should’ve left the directing to someone else. Storytelling is what he he’s masterful at, not directing.
Anakins fall/Palpatines rise are extremely good stories. With a great director I think the sequels could’ve been masterpieces in line with Jacksons LOTR trilogy.
Sadly, he forgot who actually made the original films work.
Imagine being put in charge of Star Wars and NOT giving your absolute everything into honoring its legacy with a coherent plan and hiring the best writers on the planet.
The prequels never have been bad movies. And I don’t feel ashamed because I was introduced to Star Wars thanks to them.
They were the second piece of Star Wars media I ever saw(the first was Lego Star Wars 2 on PSP), and I loved and still love each one of them
@@pedrovilasgomes9144 LEGO Star Wars is an S tier game.
I was introduced with the originals and I still enjoy the prequels
There trash besides 3
Thank you. Yes, the prequels were not bad and I am glad people are finally stepping up and admitting it. The Prequels completed the saga as it was meant to be told. I love the prequels very much as it adds so much dimension to Anakin's character.
"While prequels had a story to tell, the sequels had boxes to check" That was a brilliant line Nutsa
I agree. I loved that statement, it was genius.
Thank you nsa watchlist bait
True. The prequels, while badly delivered, truly tell the story of how the galaxy was before “the dark age.” While the sequels basically boxes to appease SJW and ruined the majority of Star Wars in the process.
I think the Prequels were NEVER bad movies and they were misunderstood by the fans. Besides, I don’t agree with the popular view that without TCW the Prequels are garbage. In my opinion the 6 films are all appreciable on their own, TCW is just an expansion of the films. A good expansion, but not an expansion needed to improve the Prequels, because in my opinion the Prequels are appreciable on their own.
Exactly the prequels couldn't match up to main trilogy for multiple reasons, but they told an enjoyable story which is much more important than copy and pasting from successful predecessors and hoping that no one notices the plagiarism.
Yes, exactly. Everything needed is already there, you just gotta pay attention.
The weird thing is, despite the defence of "you just don't like it because it wasn't what you wanted" is usually wrong and dumb, I do legitimately think it applies to the Prequels. Now, obviously the movies aren't perfect, they have their fair share of issues, but they're nowhere near as bad as a lot of people make them out to be.
Objectively it's difficult to argue against the Prequels many flaws. The ideas are certainly there but the execution is lacking. TPM and AOTC in particular are poor films. Anakin in The Clone Wars is a far more likeable, relatable person than his movie counterpart.
@@TubeEamo it's been said time and time again: a slave kid from a desert planet who went from serving under Watto the space juice to serving under the Jedi Order and the Republic can't possibly have any understanding of social interaction. that's why I've personally never took issue on how he carries himself in the movies. he's supposed to be awkward as fuck.
The prequels were bad. Acting, dialogue, the story +++ they were horrible.
The quality of a movie is not only about storytelling. Can you remember any theme from the Sequels? The Prequel's soundtrack was memorable.
all I have to do is hum “Duel of the Fates” to prove your point
Ditto
I remember Kylo Ren’s theme.
Because George and his team did not let go of the prequels, it's become my favorite era of Star Wars.
I've been really enjoying your videos keep up the good work!
I really love the prequels for their storie, characters and worldbuilding. And it made Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader not only to my favorite Star Wars character but also one of my favorite characters in all of fiction, together with Thanos. And even with their flaws, I can still see what George wanted to tell with it:
Like many complain about the "Are you an angel?" line. What do you expect from a 10 year old boy who has seen a beautiful girl for the first time?
Or Anakins weird flirting. He was firting for the first time, what do you expect?
Or that Padme was much older than Anakin in Ep. 1. They were only 5 years apart, Han and Leia were 10 years apart.
I also never understood why people complain about Anakin being whinny in Episode 2. Luke and Ahsoka also started out whinny, to set the stage for something called character development . I never understood how people could overlook that.
And I personally think Hayden did a very good playing a young disolusioned men who was told his entire life to surpress his emotions (Star Wars Theory did a good video about this topic). I am happy he returns to the Kenobi and Ahsoka Series.
Anakin/Vader has always been my favorite character in all of film too, and you're right, Hayden did a fantastic job. He fit the role extremely well, and he performed it great too. Most issues that could be argued for are with some of the dialogue, and even so it's not that hard to look past.
People are "i don't like sand" HAHA FUNNY.
But if you look at the scene and take Anakins lack of any human interaction, especially romantic ones into account it makes sense. And the fact that it comes off as weird, yeah no sh1t you got the intention.
This is what bothers me the most. When people understand what's happening and still are like "that's dumb, so i hate it".
You are completely right.
@@BluePhoenix_ Your right
@@BluePhoenix_ I agree with you
Agreed.
Anakin has been drilled to be emotionless his entire life as a Jedi.
Makes sense then that, as Anakin, he never shows it and sounds robotic, but as the "more machine then man" Vader, he shows too much emotion.
George Lucas always liked machine vs man. He just did it in one character.
And yes, how would you, as a 10 year old, act? Yippee!
The prequel’s dialogue is perfect for its position. Anakin sounds exactly how an incredibly emotional young man would sound.
The Anakin Obi Wan lightsaber duel in Episode III makes up for all of the mistakes of the prequels. The fact that they go back and forth between that and Yoda vs Palpatine was just so well done and they put so much effort into it. It's my favorite sequence in all of Star Wars.
Not like the sequal fights that throne room fight scene in the last jedi is one of the worst battles ever
The entire final half of Revenge of the Sith is nothing but classic cinema. From the moment Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin, it's pay off to action to emotion and everything in between. Just about every single scene, line and shot from that moment on is memorable and classic. That, and the epic beginning of the movie? Easily my favorite movie of all time.
Luke and Obi-Wan confusingly looking at a table has almost infinite meme potential, love how you used it in this video for the segments!
The soundtrack from the prequels alone tips the scale decisively.
Prequels dialogue was weird sometimes but they still told a interesting and compelling story. The sequels felt like they were just trying to remake the originals in a confusing way with no direction whatsoever.
If you like this content and you read my comment by chance maybe check the video How Liberty Dies: The Politics of Star Wars by Arken the Amerikan it is awesome to understand how unrated prequels are regarding liberty democracy and corruption...
TROS was as much Dark Empire as it was ROTJ. A shitty, watered down Dark Empire, but Dark Empire nonetheless. Luke's standoff with Kylo in TLJ was drawing heavily from something similar but much cooler that Luke did to his evil nephew in Legends.
The ST was the OT mixed with cherry picked elements of Legends material.
I have a friend who watched all 6 SW movies recently for the first time. She's 23. The thing is, she found both prequels and originals really enjoyable. Of course, she admits flaws of both trilogies, like some scenes were unnecessarily long, some moments are cringy or not always have good acting and so on, but she still likes both trilogies equally - mostly, for an interesting story told by them.
As for sequels, she's quite afraid to even watch it since she's already heard about such "brilliant" decisions like Rey Palpatine, Palpatine's resurrection, Luke's attempt to kill nephew and other stupid plot-twists which simply don't make any sense. And I completely understand her, ngl.
Honestly I get it. There's too much to be afraid of going into the sequels if you have any idea what is coming. In that sense spoilers can be a good thing. Can keep someone from walking into an ugly situation. Glad she enjoyed the first 6 movies.
Honestly if I could erase my memories of having seen the sequel trilogy I probably would...
Honestly the Sequel Trilogy want downhill after The Force Awakens, which most of the hate is (and should be) episodes 8 and 9, but the trilogy was still salvageable after 8. 9 was very very very very very unfortunate
@@xxred_devilxx7196 TLJ was GARBAGE lmao. You think the prequels divided the fan base up? Nah episode 8 for the first time got a majority of the fans to want to get rid of the memory of seeing it. Episode 9 was expected to be a film that would commemorate all that was lost and to reunite the fan base. Instead it got 99.8% of the fans to never wanna watch Star Wars again
@@tornn8847 TLJ definitely divided the fan base, and 9 was “the last Hope” of undoing of 8 had done to the trilogy. But I rewatched all of the films (in timeline order) and the only ones that I didn’t enjoy and cringed watching were menace and Skywalker
I still haven't seen Rise of Shitwalker. Tell your friend not to bother.
I always liked the prequels ever since i was a kid and saw phantom menace I liked them. Fact is i like them more than the originals.
I feel the sequels lack continuity and consequences… rarely do i feel that characters are in danger during the sequels and i feel they never really suffer for their actions like characters did in the originals or prequels.
It's always been my opinion that Revenge of the Sith was _peak_ Star Wars. The drama. The cheese. The CGI. The droids. The political subplots. The flashy lightsaber battles. The fanservice. But most importantly, the respect and love for the Original Trilogy present in every second of its runtime. Something that the Disney movies are sorely lacking.
The big thing for me, personally is respect for the story and characters. You can tell George Lucas tried his best and enjoyed expanding the universe. Was it perfect? No. Was it watchable? Yes. Can I say the same for Disney Lucasfilm? No. Seriously, all they need is to have someone at the helm who loves Star Wars to at least respect the IP.
'respect for the story and characters'?
Like when Yoda was too stupid to see what happened right in front of him and eagerly committed war crimes? Like when c3po and r2d2 were shoehorned into the prequels for no reason? Or how Chewbacca was shoehorned into Revenge of the Sith to sell toys?
@@reek4062 You do realise those are story decisions right, that aren't done with utter disrespect? And moreover were done in the prequels, which aren't perfect, but don't destroy characters. I did say 'was it perfect no' to quote myself. Please re-read my original comment. Cheers.
@@rubydoo3307 the prequels destroyed Yoda and Vader
@@reek4062 and that's your opinion,Thanks for sharing.
@@reek4062 Agreed with shoehorning in C-3PO, R2-D2, and Chewbacca. This is an instance where Lucas made the Star Wars universe feel small, and using them for nostalgia and easy recognition felt lazy and unnatural.
I don't mind Yoda making mistakes. There was a reason he was living in the edge of the galaxy in exlie, after all. Vader? Well, I can't say I ended up liking his story. The ideas that Jedi had to be celibate or that there was a prophecy were not things I'd have inferred from watching the OT.
I would agree that Lucas didn't really respect his own canon. What he thinks is good for Star Wars is what's in his head the day of shooting. But it's his play thing, so I guess the only thing to say is he could do as he pleased until he sold it to the, ahem, white slavers...
This is the most coherent and concise star wars commentary I've ever seen. Props.
no matter what you thought of the prequels they only made the franchise stronger and healthier, meanwhile the sequels had every advantage gifted to them and yet can barely get anyone to give a shit about them or inspire as many video games and books like the time after the prequels were released.
Lol, prequels made the franchise so strong that Lucas sold it because they sucked so bad. He knew he couldn't fix the damage that was done.
@@samuraigeorge71 you’re forgetting the massive amount of lore and video games, Lucasarts was an actual powerhouse of creativity and fun. But okay dude.
@@samuraigeorge71 stop lying
@@samuraigeorge71 No, he didn't sell his franchise because the movies sucked, they were great.
He sold his franchise mainly due to people like you. The people that gave him unimaginable amounts of shit, simply because they didn't like the Prequels personally.
@@kamixakadio2441 You saying the prequels were great just made any opinion you have on anything invalid.
Normally I'm really not a fan of the "checkboxes" argument, buuuut in this case I think it really is part of the problem. It's not like there wasn't a diverse cast in the original and prequel trilogie, but it feels like they did it without trying so hard.
Now they had to make a strong female lead, so strong in fact that she didn't even really have to try to overcome most problems. Then there was the hint of a romance, which they didn't even go through with but just faded out halfway??
Female leads are great, but why not take Lucas' original idea and continue after the original trilogie with Leia? There was so much material to make great movies out of, but Disney just had to wipe it all just to make some movies that didn't even have a plan.
Look no further than Rogue One to see a successful strong and confident woman and a diverse cast. The same boxes were checked, but they didn't make it the focus of the story. Where Rey felt like a lvl 60 skyrim character from the start, Luke, Anakin and even Jyn or Ashoka had to grow as characters to become a better version of themselves. Rey was already a jedi before meeting Luke. It felt really dishonest in my opinion, because you know nothing bad can happen to a woman in these movies, they are always honorable, compared to the evil men (like in Star Wars 8 with Poe and the pink hair woman). The same happened with Game of Thrones. Suddenly, when they ran out of books, every female character became powerful and unstoppable. Its just annoying that every woman has to be honorable and strong. It damages the complexity of a story heavily.
If you like this content and you read my comment by chance maybe check the video How Liberty Dies: The Politics of Star Wars by Arken the Amerikan it is awesome to understand how unrated prequels are regarding liberty democracy and corruption..
The depth of the prequel stories (such as he in-universe politics) makes rewatching them an intriguing experience.
I'm someone who has always unironically loved the prequels (In fact Episode I in my favourite, fight me). Yeah they have clunky dialogue, but that just adds too the charm (and eminent memeablity). And outside the dialogue, they are very solid movies as a whole.
Dosney Star Wars however is outright disrespectful to the canon. There isn't a single movie they made (well other than, debatably, Rogue One) that didn't horrifically retcon, undo and just make a mockery of the movies that came before it
The Farce Awakens just up and destroyed the victory of the Original Trilogy, undid Han's character growth, destroyed Han and Leia's relationship, destroyed the New Republic and made Luke run away.
The Lost Jedi destroys every one of JJ Abram's mystery boxes, it also made Finn, Poe, Hux and Snoke into jokes, completely destroyed Luke's character, destroyed just about the entire "Resistance", retconned the hell out of how space battles work, retconned how the force works and undermined all previous battles with _hyperspace ramming._
Solo made it so that Han went through THE EXACT SAME CHARACTER ARC THREE DIFFERENT TIMES. Also retconning the Millennium Falcon into having the mind of Lando's toaster girlfriend is something NOBODY asked for.
The Rise of Palpatine retconned just about everything that Rian Johnson did, it also completely undermined Anakin's sacrifice in Episode VI by making Sidious just alive after exploding twice.
Episode 1 is mega underrated. Darth Maul is low key GOATed.
I would say Solo does that, but it’s a fine movie. It felt like a real character going through real journeys, which added to the depth he had later on, and added an overall impact to the saga by being a solid PT-OT movie, all while largely avoiding retcons or abandonments of old characters. To put it simply, it felt like a good classic EU type of story.
I dislike Rogue One, but it’s still at least a good movie. The ST sucks
TPM is the most underrated movie in the whole series, imo. It showed a lot of ANH's themes off better than ANH did; compare Obi-Wan and Luke's relationship to Qui-Gon and Anakin's. The decision to show Vader as an idealistic, altruistic, and above all innocent child gives us a much broader perspective on who Anakin was, and why he was worth saving. And seeing how talented Anakin was makes his downfall that much more tragic, because we knew his gifts would be wasted.
Also, Qui-Gon is GOATed. Easily top 5 Jedi in all of Star Wars media.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm we could have more of him if george didnt sell the rights to star wars to disney, and also a sith mommy
My personal opinion, don't anyone crucify me🙄
Episode one is meh, save for the cool fight at the end
2 used to be boring, because I didn't pay attention to/understand the political side of things, but afterwards was very interesting.
3 was my favorite because of Anakin's fall, Hayden being at his best in my opinion and the lightsaber duels were great
With the prequels I heard a lot of issues with the “I hate sand” and Jar Jar.
But at least it was entertaining and it seemed like the cast was enjoying themselves.
What's so bad about jar jar he's hilarious
The prequel trilogy is just like a cake with the frosting being a bit too sweet. The sequels is a cake with undercooked batter.
Criticisms with the prequels can just be stemmed from surface level shortcomings. Sequels have something wrong with them on a fundamental level.
@@benl.4577 well put
@@benl.4577 nice take
The actor for jar jar wanted to kill himself because of the criticism his role got
Such a good point about the clone wars show. I rewatched it when I was a bit older and Maaaan they really did a great job and explored many dark themes while simultaneously simply expanding the lore. It was so enjoyable and your point about Lucas Films not simply walking away is wonderful and it makes me appreciate them more. Great video!
I'm kinda blown away about how quickly you've improved at this whole video essay thing. In your video on Rey, It still felt like you were somewhat unused to talking charismatically to a crowd. Meanwhile, this video was quite pleasant to listen to, so props for that!
One reason I think the sequels struggled (and even the EU with how it struggled to move past hardcore fans) is that the OT is the end of Star Wars. There's your happy ending. While other stories might happen in the same Universe, they either won't be as grandiose in scale, or they'll predate the events of the ending. When all prophecies are fulfilled, all battles are won, the narrative need not carry on.
I pretend nothing happens after 6
Not all battles are won after 6. An empire doesnt evaporate just because its leader died and they lost a battle. Its an amazing ending to the trilogy but its not an ending to all star wars stories. And although I consider anything that doesnt come from George Lucas as fanfiction, this is one of the reasons people love Heir to the Empire so much.
Star Wars ended in 1983
I think you forgot that the EU had a 25-book series about a galaxy-wide war with a race of aliens who invaded from outside the galaxy. That takes place between 25-40 years after Ep 6.
Literally the RotS Trailer : "yea the saga ends here lol we'll have some comics after maybe a few shows"
I would like to make a pledge for Jar Jar here. He is the hero of episode one. The only person who isnt prediced by sidious and the reason padme returned to nabo and get an army there. Another point is the great scene in ep two when he is giving palp the emergency powers amd how even good intentions can lead to the fall of justice and democarcy.
Jar Jaris the key to it all
Or he is a sith lord
I felt sorry for him, in that Senate scene. The poor simp was sooo proud of the fine and dignified speech he gave...and it ended up setting things on motion to destroy the Galaxy.
Wasn't he canonically supposed to be the Darth above all, but the got scrapped by George?
The prequels for all their troubles are cohesive and have a narrative. It's not just themes, subversions for the sake of subverting our expectations thrown into a pot and mixed because they're cool. So while there are some dialogue, pacing, romance, etc. issues... if you looked at the broad picture it shows the Republic and the Jedi's many flaws and how it led to the rise of the Empire. It painted a very broad picture.
the prequels are not cohesive, though still more cohesive than the sequels. You can skip the Phantom Menace and miss nothing; it's an obsolete movie and terrible first movie of a trilogy.
ROTS is still the best Star Wars movie (imo)
So true
I'm with you there
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The prequel‘s were meant to be a different breed. Calling back to a more simpler time in the golden age of Hollywood. I have a feeling it’s meant to be more like the classic science fiction serials more than the original trilogy did. The prequel trilogy has a lot in line with Lucas’s first film THX 1138 as well which is going to be a lot of references over the years
I feel the Prequels were great stories that were just poorly executed.
The Disney Sequels are absolute train wrecks that had no vision or passion behind them, let alone a plan of any kind.
Lucas had a story he was passionate about and eager to tell. Disney doesn't care about the franchise and only want to produce product.
The execution of the prequels was perfect, to be honest.
@@fundhund62 he needed a script doctor to help with the dialogue but almost perfect
@@rsdillbot3646 I will never understand how people complain about that typical Star Wars dialogue.
It's wonderfully old-fashioned and regal, and was specifical designed to sound exactly like it did.
Loved it in the original trilogy, continued to love it in the prequels.
@@fundhund62 if you love complex dialogue then you should love dune too
@@motor4X4kombat It was largely your usual snarky Hollywood dialogue. I don't like that at all.
No comparison to Star Wars.
I never disliked the prequels. I loved Jar Jar as a character, I loved the memes, the banter between the jedi, that the stakes felt real, heck, I even loved the politics of the prequels because it was world building. You saw a bustling society of tons of people all living their lives and being affected by war. The "bad dialogue" was there sure, but it was cut short in order to fit into a movie format. Yoda's words of wisdom definitely has more weight in clone wars, but in the movie they didn't have time for a scene where a padawan is led into a room full of younglings by Yoda in order to teach them a lesson.
Maybe that just goes to show that Star Wars works better in my opinion as a series. There is so much that can be fleshed out, but movies don't have the luxury of space.
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie.
Last 30 minutes of Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie.
I'm sorry but episode V the empire strikes back is
Agreed
Master Skywalker theeees too many of them
I respectfully disagree, but you are a man of fine taste.
You're underrated as hell ngl
At this point the sequels don’t make me mad any more, they just make me sad :(
Ironic that _sequels_ can do more to damage lore than _prequels,_ but that's what retconning is for
Prequels were a _visual_ story. In every note, every shot was a tremendous weight that echoed through entire film. Just look at Maul vs Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan, the *Duel of Fates*
The emotional buildup, the fight, the fear, the clashing of lightsabers in the lonely halls of Naboo's generator facility. An absolutely flawless set of scenes that literally _sing_ to you the plot through music and amazing choreography.
As for Anakin vs Obi-Wan, no words can describe this fight. This sequence will be forever the most epic fight in literature/tv/anime/cinema for me. It’s a forever classic. They don’t do things like that anymore. And _Battle of The Heroes_ what a soundtrack to support that amazing fight in literal pits of hell. The swings between former friends, the jumps on metal platforms, the air-flips. I can talk and analyse this battle forever. It is truly legendary and ballsy. The fall of an angel which is Anakin Skywalker.
Sequels have some _swoosh swoosh_ "fights" and weak plot.
"They fly now?"
Yeah Poe, they fly now… As well as in Clone Wars and OT.
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The prequels has heart and soul, the sequels are husks of art. Nailed it with this one. Also so glad to see you get a sponsor!
Even though I'm not a huge fan of the prequels as films, I really like the story and lore they added to Star Wars. They had many creative ideas that could be expanded on overtime. The sequels were corporate products that were churned out so that Disney could cash in on their purchase with little consideration to Star Wars as a story and setting up an interesting world.
Oof, your line about the Sequels have to prove themselves better than anything which had been decanonised summed it up beautifully. When Disney announced the trilogy, I remember EVERYONE wanted Thrawn. Like, to the level of the seagulls from Finding Nemo chanting "Mine?" only we were saying "Thrawn?" I even overheard a conversation between Timothy Zahn, the creator, telling a fan about how if Disney had called him, he would have driven to the studio in six hours instead of the usual eight. So, yes! Thank you wrapping up this mess into such a neat package.
The Prequels have a soul, there passion behind the movies, something the Sequels sorely lack.
THANK YOU. Only thing I disagree is the Clone Wars argument, but it's my personal point of view. Nostalgia really takes its place for me liking the Prequels, but they feel more like a Star Wars movie than the sequels.
Like the check boxes you said. The prequels had their check boxes, but to get to the Originals and answer the questions that they left in the originals.
With the sequels, they are more like star wars-ish check boxes, to make them look like a Star Wars film and not BE a Star Wars film, and there is the difference.
I really appreciate your content, and no worries on the pronunciation, I'm brazilian and sometimes struggle with it too.
Clone Wars was great tho
Prequel checkboxes: Stuff inside the movies
Sequel checkboxes: Stuff outside the movies
Answering the title question before even watching, I offer "One set treated the source material with appropriate respect and was a project of passion. The other were the sequels."
It is thanks to the prequels that I became a Star Wars fan at all. I know they aren't perfect and I know they could have used more work, but at least they told a story without destroying the original trilogy. Also, The Clone Wars practically became Cobra Kai before it existed, because it made the prequels more enjoyable. The sequels will never have the same love from fans because it destroyed what the orginal trilogy gave us. The prequels might not be the best trilogy, but fans like me will always appreciate them.
My idea as to why Prequels were criticized
- different story telling: Heroes fall (not journey) and world building (which not everyone can get behind which is understandable).
- George had to many ideas
- 30+ year time gap between the OT and PT ...things will get lost or forgotten.
Now the PT had issues but they still had consistency, world building and NEW IDEAS..not mcguffin chasing and movie copy paste. There are similarities with the OT and PT but they parallel each other.
Ep3 and Ep6
Dooku vs Anakin -- Luke vs Vader
Dooku dies = anakin fails -- Vader is spared = Luke passes
Sequel Trilogy offers no depth, gives us tropes and "subversive ideas" but with little to no pay off. Also story is extremely inconsistent and has NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
Anyway, thanks for the video analysis!
probably the biggest criticism was the awkward scriptwriting and pacing. since the beginning, george thought of good stories, but was not that good at making them a reality. the difference is that the OT scripts went though lots of revisions, while the PT scripts went largely unchecked. in a way, the rough draft made its way to the production
@@Underworlder5 I agree with you, lot of ideas needing trimming down. George can write a good story but it needs revision to tie loose ends. Though I felt he wanted to do this by himself as times in Hollywood changed when the prequels were in development. Studios had a lot of pull then and he didn't want that.
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I go back to old reviews of the star wars prequels and just realize how many points are either wrong, stupid or equally apply to the original series
“Anakin is an annoying brat”
That’s the entire point of his character arc he spends his whole life being called the chosen one and told how great he is, this leads to him having a sense of entitlement that ultimately sets him up for failure and leads him to the dark side. Say what you want about how dearth Vader’s supposed to be a bad as, someone doesn’t become a cyborg space wizard dictator who chokes out his subordinates at slightest disagreement because they’re a well adjusted person.
“Jar jar is annoying character for kids”
What do you think the Ewoks were? Hell the Ewoks literally had their own animated kids show.
“Space politics are too complex for a child to care about.”
The original trilogy didn’t have space politics to the same extent but they did have space philosophy with a lot of really subtle ideas that I certainly didn’t fully grasp as a kid.
“The characters aren’t memorable, you can’t describe the characters without naming their title”
Luke sky walker feels entitled to great power he’s the type of guy who’s been told “you’re the best” his whole life. While he’s highly competent He can’t really deal with failure or the idea that something may be out of his control entirely.
Quigon Jin is similar to obi wan In a lot of ways, very wise and patient but kinda a smart ass. It’s clear that obi wan try’s to emulate how his master behaved
Count Dooku is peak “villain” big master plans and a self satisfied ego.
I could go on but i think I’ve made my point. The only point I think really stands against the prequels is the poor acting and dialogue but from a pure story and entertainment standpoint they hold up well imo
When you read some of the criticism against the prequels from hardcore OT fans you realize a lot of them didnt really understant the originals to begin with. Vader was never supposed to be badass. Scary? Yes, but he was always meant to be pathetic. How do you see someone who can hardly breathe, is nothing more than an attack dog for the Emperor, is in constant pain and go like "damn, thats one cold badass mf"? One criticism in particular that has always bugged me is that you can not identify the main character of the TPM. How can you be a fan of A new hope and not immediately identify its Queen Amidala just like Leia was? You have the same composition with Obi-wan and Qui-gon replacing r2 and c3po as POV characthers. In the same note, people say qui gon is pointless and instead of the duo you could just have obi wan. I can say the same about r2 and c3po...
a big red flag is that a lot of prequel haters bend over backwards to praise the sequels for the same reasons they hated the Prequels
@@laisphinto6372 this right here. IHE, stuckman, the walkers, cosmonaut, they ALL refused to give the sequel trilogy even a fraction of the criticisms they hurled at the prequels despite the blatant issues on display.
Chris Stuckman called Yoda using a lightsaber character assassination but what happened to Luke in TLJ was ok? Doug Walker straight up admitted im his review of TLJ that he ignored the films blatant issues. IHE cast people who hated TLJ and Ruin Johnson as toxic despite his videos on the prequels and George him self engaging in similar behaviors. The less said about RLM and Plinketts bad takes the better.
The long and short of it is I dont trust the prequel hate circle jerk as not only were their takes surface level at best and out right wrong at worst, they werent willing to admit that Disney’s output was significantly worse than anything George ever made, and they were the ones that were cheering for him to sell off Star Wars.
They get what they deserve
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I will always say that part of the reason the prequels are viewed more positively now is because those of us who were kids at the time are old enough to have voices that reach far and wide, especially with the internet. It makes me so happy to know that so many people like me loved these films at the time and still fight for them. George will always be the greatest for me because he created something that was his own, stood by it, changed it if he felt necessary etc.
That’s definitely part of it but I have seen more than a few people who’ve changed their opinions on the prequels over the years, Espeiclsly after the sequels.
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I hated how the old star wars fans treated the Prequel Trilogy i loved them although i do agree it has some problems there still enjoyable and interesting i remember the star wars fans that made a whole documentary about hating George lucas and Prequels sometimes i feel like they won they got the sequel trilogy which a Remake of the Orginal Trilogy that they loved but worse im glad more people appreciate the Prequels.
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When I rewatched the fourth Star Wars film/First prequel, The Phantom Menace earlier this year, I was pleasantly surprised by how well it holds up! I mean, I can understand why it gets so much flack (it is a much different film than its predecessors), but at the same time, it was fun, it told an intriguing story, had the best sound design and music of ANY Star Wars movie before and after, but more so because it lived up its title of Episode I: It was the entire backbone of the Star Wars mythology, and the answers it provides to mysteries raised by the first three films are actually satisfactory and illuminating. And THAT'S how you follow up a tough act to follow: You answer questions raised by your prior work in a unique way and make sure that the answers are good.
The initial reception of the prequels was insane when they came out. It is honestly amazing how people see how old men bashing them on the internet is how they think people that saw these movies in theaters actually responded.
By this same logic, someone 20 years from now will talk about how the Sequels were incredibly well received upon release, since the mainstream internet articles all talk about how good they were
I kinda had faith in J.J. back when TFA was first announced, but to say he and Rian Johnson (and the people at Mouse Inc.) dropped the ball would be an understatement. as for George Lucas, watching THX1138 and American Graffiti made me appreciate him more as a director. there's more vision and balls in a single frame of either of those films than in the entirety of the sequel trilogy. it's not like he lost it when he made the prequels. mistakes were made, but you can tell that something grand is going on, and honestly all the goofy stuff is part of the experience; that's what makes it memorable.
One major difference between the prequels and the sequels is that the prequels didn't have the media crying wolf and gaslighting the audience every step of the way. Like, imagine if Ahsoka premiered in this generation rather than 2008. The media would all be like "Anakin's STRONG INDEPENDENT new apprentice proves that women can be Jedi, too!" "Ahsoka proves she don't need no man to teach her the Force!" "Only toxic man-babies are stupid enough to dislike Ahsoka!" "A vocal minority is trying to tarnish the legacy of this PERFECT new icon for girls!"
The performative pandering of the sequels is disheartening, for they had such a great opportunity with the cast they had.. if only they were given a better story and could have actually made a difference
wait, people are actually like that with star wars?
@@weirdguylol yes🙄
Ironically, initially Ahsoka was hated by the fandom back than, but that's because "Why Anakin has a padawan that we have never ever heard about in the Revenge of the Sith?" and not because of identity politics culture warring.
@@vladprus4019 also because initial incarnations of Ahsoka were incredibly annoying and stealing the spotlight from the characters we were interested in seeing.
She got better over time, but I dislike how she's been slotted in everything Star Wars related lately.
What I always loved about the prequel trilogy is it had passion behind it, unlike the sequel trilogy which felt by the numbers, the prequels were made with a scope and vision to introduce fans to what the jedi were before the empire, and how the galaxy changed
This is possibly the most well thought-out take on these films that I have seen to date.
I remember seeing Episode II in the theater. My friends and I had to wait for hours, so we could get good seats. I remember going "WTF?!" again and again during the ridiculous dialogue. I remarked at the time on how I had participated in middle school plays that were better written. Yet, looking back now, all that nonsense aside, those films were silly fun. Episodes VIII and IX, on the other hand, evoke no emotion other than anger in me. I cannot see how something would be able to change that view over time.
Liked episode 3 as it's a great action movie - and the prequels, if seen as as obi-wan's story, weren't that bad. Didn't even bother to watch the sequels after episode 7. Just couldn't bear the main characters. Regarding your comment about the pronunciations: Your english is perfectly fine. I'm not a native speaker myself, but could get every word you said. No worries. Reading taught you well.
Same.
@@jairusjackson7799 ROTS is my favorite movie of all time. And I'm the same way, I was disillusioned with Star Wars after TFA. Glad to see others like me exist too
@@Cos_Why_Not Have you tried watching the original six in the Machette order? It goes, episode 4, 5 then 1, 2, 3 and 6. It's the most satisfying order to watch, and the entire story just molds together perfectly. That's the problem with the Sequels, they just don't add anything, it doesn't feel like they belong in the story. The original six are a story about a father and his son, the last three are about some girl who likes to take people's things.
@@jairusjackson7799 I haven't, I usually just watch whichever one I'm in the mood for and usually with the attempt of going chronologically. I'll give it a shot though
The prequels told us the story of Vader and how he turned to the dark side so it can help us appreciate the originals allot more and ROTS was and still is in my top 3 favourite movies like the casting was decent
"I've been looking forward to this"
But in all seriousness, this is a very well put together video that explains it's point very well, well done!
This is a clear cut case of vision vs regurgitation. I mean, we all already knew this. I’m sure many can agree that they felt at least an inkling of this when viewing the Sequels. For me I personally I felt it when I watched TLJ in theaters. The entire time there was just something… missing. It took me until a few months after that viewing when the backlash was leveling out that I realized what it was. The Sequels have no soul. I don’t feel anything from them except maybe some surface level emotions. Contrast that with literally any of the other movies there’s this feeling in my chest and this buzz in my head that just says to me that this is Star Wars. I can reciprocate and identify the passion that went into making those movies because it just feels… real. And that’s forever going to be the telltale sign for me
That experience is exactly what I felt when I watched TFA. I generally enjoyed them at the theaters, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought about the state of the galaxy in the movie, the more I realized just how terrible and hollow it was. Never watched TLJ or TROS and never will, but from everything I've seen and heard it seems they were even worse trashfires.
People who say "Ah who cares the sequels will be popular in the future, you just love prequels because Nostalgia." Should watch this.
I also think nostalgia plays a big role in the now positive view of the prequels. Many of the fans are not fans that watched the originals when they came out and then saw the prequels years later but younger fans that grew up with the prequels.
When my dad watched the star wars movies with me, we did it chronologically and I liked the prequels more. Why? Because I was an 8 year old kid that liked the epic lightsaber fights, droid smashing, big space battles and the humor more than the "calmer" nature of the original trilogy. Sure at some point I realized that the prequels aren't that good movies but it didn't really matter because the childhood memories of listening to the star wars audiobooks so often that I could literally speak along or pretending to be jedi with friends and fighting imaginary droid armees.
You don't really see the big flaws as an elementary school student. My generation also really really loves memes and turns out literally every line from the prequel trilogy can be turned into a meme. The memes are funny and everytime I see one I also feel a little bit of nostalgia and not so bad for liking the prequels.
I feel like the clone wars series helped a lot of people as well. It made me like Anakin.
I was young enough to have the Return of the Jedi on VHS AND watch the Phantom Menace when it came out. I'd seen the OG but I was like around 5 or 6 so much of the story and its themes went over my head. Long story short I never got that Palpatine and the Emperor were the same guy like some of the older fans may have realized. My point is that I was old enough to watch the OG movies but I also grew up with the Prequels
@@Mord12gp Wait wait wait.
You didn't realise that Emperor Palpatine was the same guy as the senator and then chancellor Palpatine?
@@antoineguerrier2965 No, but i began to suspect during the OG Clone Wars cartoons. They made him look a bit to creepy. I began to suspect before the Revenge of the Sith came out. You have to realize that i didn't know about the EU and i didn't get that the Emperor and Darth Sidious were meant to be the same guy. Hell when i was little i was confused why everyone was calling Luke Skywalker Anakin, me not understand what i was watching.
@@antoineguerrier2965 I didn't know either, I never payed much attention to the hooded guy on holograms
"And yes we could deny it and deem it isn't canon but-"
No buts, I'm happy to say that Disney entries don't count. The Lucas Canon is a thing.
Can we keep Rogue One?
Every time i hear people complain about the acting in the prequels and i watch the prequels i never get what they mean. The story is so good that i don’t hear or see bad acting or any actors. I see a story being told
Story is more important than acting and effects
You're just as talented at making funny edits and memes as you are at doing more serious commentaries like this. 👍
Hillarious that over the years Star wars community was gaslighted into thinking Prequels were masterpieces
It’s that generation coming to understand the effect of nostalgia. They’re currently going through the denial phase😂
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