Have fitted plenty of Quinetic and the thought always crosses my mind about the next guy that comes along to repair / replace where is he going to look for the receiver. I always place a label behind the switch buttons as to where the receiver is located but I’m sure a lot of installers won’t be so diligent. It’s a future problem in the making I’m sure.
Great stuff, they have their uses, I have been fitting Kinetic based switches for a few years, they are great for as you say, getting out of chasing walls for 2 or intermediate switching, saves a ton of work, and the customer always prefers that lol. I do worry about longevity, support, reliance on bluetooth standards, frequency changes in future etc.. it would be a good thing if all manufacturers standardised the protocol. Cool video.
I recently worked on a property where the previous resident passed away. The house was full of this technology and it was a nightmare trying to get lights to work. I see good points and bad.
I notice that he app displayed PIRs. I am interested in using a pair of PIRs at either end of my drive (50m) to turn on several lights along the length and the wireless looks ideal. Can you cover this in a video please?
So the Bluetooth mode paired to the kinetic switch will only work if the phone is in range of the receiver and also switch in range of the phone? Or does it bypass the phone and then stores the switch signal at the receiver after pairing through Bluetooth? This is not clear? 🤔
The receiver / relay stores the signal so either the app connected via Bluetooth or the switch can trigger the relay. The relay is paired to the app and the switch separately.
Great video men! Question: Are the receivers always drawing a little power [e.g., the way [as is my understanding but I’m open to correction] a Hue product [e.g., a bulb in off / standby mode] is always drawing a small amount of power? Not really an issue before the energy price rises but arguably now very much a consideration! Many thanks in advance, Richard
My approach is to take all the dimmer/switching controllers back to a hub point and properly document it. Then switch freedom for the occupants to make changes (especially bedrooms as kids grow up). Minimises the oh heck if one of the vendors goes splat too.
Oh please come on , in the name of Christ , why would you want light switches with a glass front and blue tooth, the world has gone totally mad completely gaga, they look nice but wait till they vale and you have to spend more money to replace them. The world has gone mad I tell you. God I hate modern technology. Great video guy’s as always 👍❤️
I like theys switches, looks pretty simple to set up, and for Gardens ideal as normally customer like I want the switch there then when it comes to fitting it different place
Yes you can get outdoor PIrs - www.eltako.com/en/the-home-of-innovation/6-window-contacts-temperature-sensors-temperature-controllers-motionbrightness-sensors-and-other-sensors.html
All fantastic right up to the moment you lose your phone or have it stolen or drop it in the toilet. What happens if you think it's paired but you are actually switching the nabours lights on and off 😁🐔
Never found a product with as many features as the Kozee one. 2 channels, WiFi with app/Alexa and Google, sensor gateway built in. I have a water sensor and multi sensor (temp/humidity/ambient light/contact) connected to mine
Nice vid lads. Kinetics is the well known wireless equipment and works The BIG problem with all this app and P2P wireless switching is signing your life away…… look at the terms of the app you have used Collects email home and mobile number Addresses and they hold your info for 7 years …….. who wants all this hassle and personal data collection just to switch a light on Uk law will be changing to protect people against this type of product soon
lol I have the Kozee system and the app only asks for your email address so you can get back into your account if you forget your password, no phone numbers or address. Time to put that tin foil hat away.
@@rayroutledge5953 I think you need to look at terms and conditions on the app So if it is only asking for your email address if you forget the password who is sending you the email
Have fitted plenty of Quinetic and the thought always crosses my mind about the next guy that comes along to repair / replace where is he going to look for the receiver.
I always place a label behind the switch buttons as to where the receiver is located but I’m sure a lot of installers won’t be so diligent.
It’s a future problem in the making I’m sure.
Great advice 👍
Now these look amazing 👀
Great stuff, they have their uses, I have been fitting Kinetic based switches for a few years, they are great for as you say, getting out of chasing walls for 2 or intermediate switching, saves a ton of work, and the customer always prefers that lol. I do worry about longevity, support, reliance on bluetooth standards, frequency changes in future etc.. it would be a good thing if all manufacturers standardised the protocol. Cool video.
Thanks for your detailed comment and watching
It is ble so open to anyone
I recently worked on a property where the previous resident passed away. The house was full of this technology and it was a nightmare trying to get lights to work.
I see good points and bad.
What system or protocol did the system use?
Gaz were is the video you put out last week about the plug in socket tester?
Another very informative video of up to the minute products and what a lovely new t&g worktop 😝no experience spared there.
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I notice that he app displayed PIRs. I am interested in using a pair of PIRs at either end of my drive (50m) to turn on several lights along the length and the wireless looks ideal. Can you cover this in a video please?
That’s a great application - we’ll see what we can do for a future video.
Amazing stuff ! Only need to bring up a feed :). Keep up the good work eFIXX🤩
So the Bluetooth mode paired to the kinetic switch will only work if the phone is in range of the receiver and also switch in range of the phone? Or does it bypass the phone and then stores the switch signal at the receiver after pairing through Bluetooth? This is not clear? 🤔
The receiver / relay stores the signal so either the app connected via Bluetooth or the switch can trigger the relay. The relay is paired to the app and the switch separately.
Morning…can you have a normal switch in the same line..bit like 2 way switching ?
Thanks guys. What is the Alexa/ Google Assistant compatibilty of these switches?
Would love to know as well.
Good question - The Kozee module version supports Alexa
Kozee supports Alexa and google home
Great video men! Question: Are the receivers always drawing a little power [e.g., the way [as is my understanding but I’m open to correction] a Hue product [e.g., a bulb in off / standby mode] is always drawing a small amount of power? Not really an issue before the energy price rises but arguably now very much a consideration! Many thanks in advance, Richard
Wonder what kind of security these have? Can anyone with a laptop and SDR mess with all the lights
That’s a big question for any IoT based product. we’ll try to look at this in a future video.
The encryption is via the google cloud. So no a normal person could not hack.
@@ianbrown3904 So big brother can control the lights now, 9:00 curfew, lights out now. 😳
5:48 that was rather an awkward jump cut!!! How long did it actually take to pair them correctly?
We’ll spotted We just paired them the wrong way around. Pairing in this system is 💨 fast.
Are these switches compatible with the standard quintic receivers?
My approach is to take all the dimmer/switching controllers back to a hub point and properly document it. Then switch freedom for the occupants to make changes (especially bedrooms as kids grow up). Minimises the oh heck if one of the vendors goes splat too.
Sensible approach
Oh please come on , in the name of Christ , why would you want light switches with a glass front and blue tooth, the world has gone totally mad completely gaga, they look nice but wait till they vale and you have to spend more money to replace them. The world has gone mad I tell you. God I hate modern technology.
Great video guy’s as always 👍❤️
I’ve had wireless switches at home for over 10 years with no problems. *Gordon
I like theys switches, looks pretty simple to set up, and for Gardens ideal as normally customer like I want the switch there then when it comes to fitting it different place
Excellent product
And they look fantastic 👍🏻
Can you add pirs for garden lighting for these set ups
Yes you can get outdoor PIrs - www.eltako.com/en/the-home-of-innovation/6-window-contacts-temperature-sensors-temperature-controllers-motionbrightness-sensors-and-other-sensors.html
All fantastic right up to the moment you lose your phone or have it stolen or drop it in the toilet. What happens if you think it's paired but you are actually switching the nabours lights on and off 😁🐔
You can still use the switches without the phone or app.
And you can reset if you really need to by turning the power off and you have 3 minutes to connect to a different phone
You need to do a review on Shelly products knock most of this stuff into a cocked hat and the prices half these too.
Do Shelly make kinetic wall switches?
Never found a product with as many features as the Kozee one. 2 channels, WiFi with app/Alexa and Google, sensor gateway built in.
I have a water sensor and multi sensor (temp/humidity/ambient light/contact) connected to mine
Can't think of anything worse than filling my house with of this sort of stuff.
Each to their own though I suppose.
Nice vid lads. Kinetics is the well known wireless equipment and works
The BIG problem with all this app and P2P wireless switching is signing your life away…… look at the terms of the app you have used
Collects email home and mobile number Addresses and they hold your info for 7 years …….. who wants all this hassle and personal data collection just to switch a light on
Uk law will be changing to protect people against this type of product soon
lol I have the Kozee system and the app only asks for your email address so you can get back into your account if you forget your password, no phone numbers or address. Time to put that tin foil hat away.
@@rayroutledge5953
I think you need to look at terms and conditions on the app
So if it is only asking for your email address if you forget the password who is sending you the email
@@tomengineer1467 Google is sending the email as it uses their Firestore service.
I don't need to read anything at all, I know what it's collecting.
What’s changing in the law?
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