Yep, i followed ur advice from previous videos, started working on fundamentals and I can say my overall confidence, feeling over a bike is totally improved 😊
Throughout my 20s & early 30s, I've always been lucky to ride my buddy's sport bikes with them. At 39 i finally got my own first bike, '22 streetbob 114, as mentally everything changed and I just wanted to cruise. Your channel has always provided great insight and I always keep your knowledge shared in mind when out riding. Priceless information! Thanks!
#2 point, trail braking vs engine braking. I didn’t realize I had a happy mix until you pointed it out, I just love the pops and growls I get hearing my bike decelerate. I actually was thinking ‘best practice’ was that I should be trail braking instead. Love your tidbits of info, clear explanations and examples
@ approx 20 minutes I picked up on 1 comment, that the idea of choosing to tempilary remove 1 skill you are good confident and comfortable doing, so that you can concentrate on an identified weakness in your ability & IMO it is 1 single lesson not taught enough & it's the 1st time I've heard you say it directly. Yes it is often covered that you don't use all of your skills you know all the time, bc some conditions don't require all techniques all the time, but to deliberately sacrifice some brain power to allow further learning is not pushed enough. To be fair most people need to open their minds a little to begin to learn to recognise their weaknesses but will prefer to be out riding & having fun & thus not be self judgemental, well until post wallet emptied & bike damaged time & they think what went wrong
Thank you for this I’ve been riding solo for a long time and use all these fundamentals .. as soon as I get offered into a group to ride it’s so dangerous I’ve seen a lot of riders do no look back before changing lanes even on highway . I tried again riding with this group and same thing multiple times they almost got hit .. I don’t think they are trained on scanning . For me I’m always scanning
thanks for the video, im a new rider, im on a mt 07, im not any straganger to 2 wheels most of my life i did downhill trails and so on im just getting used to all that weight and corner lines, the trail brake is something everyone should know how to do being on a car or a motorcycle i actually do that by instict when i think im going to fast to that corner i brake a a little and i slowly take pressure from the rear brakes and start do give it gas and take out angle when the turn is about to end, but still im not quite used to all that weight so im still a bit afraid of giving too much angle and lose the front end
Thanks again, Greg. I just loved your commentary, especially about scanning. You explain exactly what you mean with examples over and over again. Wish I could take real lesdons from you. Lrarn from the best.
Along with MSF courses , this video and Champ School Street Course should be an easy choice for all riders. Nice job. You just hit a grand slam with this video.
MSF are basic, 8th grade level classes, I've taken them all and used to teach them. MotoJitsu.com/courses has a LOT more higher level training courses for you.
I am not superfast in the twisties, but go the speed limit or a little more on my Honda Shadow 1100. I find that I rarely need to do more than tip my upper body in a bit to mitigate lean angle. No need to exaggerate. Works at city speeds too.
@MotoJitsu absolutely do do that, but if I misjudge, or there's a patch of sketchy road that comes up, it doesn't take much lean to be able to put your bike more upright without braking.
Greg, I've been watching your videos for years. For cornering, this is up there with some of your best. Since acquiring a big V-Twin, I was unsure of its cornering finesse. Everything in this video just works superbly. The only difference is the huge Torque between 2,000 & 3,000 rpms. If I don't wait for the corner exit in a curve and Throttle too hard, the bike will literally come out of my hands! I really have to wait before coming on the Throttle and pointing in the right direction, for sure.
Great commentary, at like 12 mins you start staying Look scan, bird road, look, scan, etc etc. Your eyes are constantly moving and the faster you go the faster you have to do that.... I tell my students that riding is work, you cant be lazy and complacent and build the wrong/bad habits. The faster you go, the more work that is involved, or you die. At first it was very heavy and tiring, but over the years of doing the right thing you get used to the vision and adapting your thoughts and mind and scanning to see faster and farther.
I took your advice, and also practice some fundamentals skills. And 2 days ago when I hop on my bike, went to the nearest canyon road. And I realized I'm getting faster. Thanks
watched this 11 times then go practice trying to use your speedo as guide for entry riding a vmax 1700 that i used to be nervous about pushing into corner great help now i dont feel iam going too slow i tell people you can learn almost anything on utube vmax 3rd gear crazy fast out of curves thank you for your help
Also, jumping around on the bike changing body position consumes alot more energy. So important to also stay in good physical shape to sharpen your riding skills. Loved this video..thanks 😎👍
Personally, I think you should apply trail braking at every blind bend, even on a clear bend there may be an object on the road! Then you can stop safely in the bend when necessary, without changing the geometry of the motorcycle too extreme, which could lead to a crash.
good to know as a new rider; still taking it super easy but wanna get the fundamentals down solid first! can I just say, this shit has been really fun lol
I'd be interested in your doing a video that gives your philosophy on speed limits, reasonable speeds and risks to others. I believe the California statutory speed limit for roads like Lyons Valley Road/Lawson Valley Road is 65 mph, and you generally stay under that (with a few moments well over 70). I do respect your visual scanning and mental acuity but also note there's a million ranches with side roads and trash cans lined up to be collected, as well as posted bicycle signs giving even slow bicycles the right to use the main lane. California law now requires a vehicle to change lanes to go around a stopped garbage truck, which puts that vehicle on a head-on path to your motorcycle whenever the truck is stopped in the opposite lane. Or the vehicle passing a stopped truck going your direction may block your evasive path if the timing is inconvenient. With respect to the posted non-mandatory advisory speeds for curves, you are typically negotiating them (legally) at 2x to 2.5x the posted advisory. Again, I appreciate the advantages of the mental processing speed and reflexes of a young man like yourself (enjoy it while you can -- hehe). But how do you assess the level of risk your riding style presents to others -- for example, stopped utility vehicles, bicycles, vehicles coming at you in a single lane while passing, cross-traffic, etc.? The higher your speed, the more truncated is your reaction time and stopping distance. As the old saying goes: Speed kills. The general public doesn't really care if a single rider dies as a result of his own choices, but the threat to others seems a proper subject for discussion. How do you assess that?
Depends on the road/ traction/ surroundings/ what I'm doing, etc. On the highway, if there's medium traffic I'm usually going slightly faster than the flow of traffic...if it's light traffic, I'm usually on cruise control under 80.
What roads do u go ride in socal I'm in OC and keep trying to find more and more places to go to closest set of twisties is highway 74 for me. Do you have any good intermediate recommendations?
A note you made is also something that really gets my goat. It's the hot doggers (the immature idiots i.e. the "instagram heros"), who think likes in Social Media are more valuable than life and limb. Yeah, about that. I just read a news report yesterday of a guy doing stupid crap on a motorcycle, being filmed by a friend. He lost control of his motorcycle and not only injured himself fatally (yeah, he died!), he took out his friend with the bike, injuring him seriously AND seriously injured two children of a family who were parked on the side of the road too at that same corner. I actually think hot dogging videos should be banned from social media. Nobody should "go viral" by doing stupid crap.
I don't think that completely ignoring everything does the job. I think the best way is to acknowledge that those mentioned things sadly happen on daily basis but not let them affect on your personal life.
@@MotoJitsu 1. Not watching it isn't possible. The crap gets shown to you automatically in Reels or TikTok or in a Facebook feed. You are "made aware" of it, without your asking for it. Sure, I could just not use those apps, but I also want the advantages of them too (mainly Facebook feed to keep up with friends). 2. Do you mean talk about it like, "Hey check this idiot out"? Sharing? I don't do that. On the contrary, I'll usually write a comment about my dislike for the crap posted and that is about it. IMHO, allowing stupid crap and even lies/ mistruths onto social media platforms is why so many people with a phone are getting more ignorant by the year.
Hello MotoJitsu, I like your videos a lot. I would like to see you from behind so i know how you use your body when its necessery. I would recommend a Insta360 which can hang from the back of your bike so u can use some footage from behind. Thanks for your effort making us better riders.
70 MPH = 120 KMH (roughly). At that speed on that kind of road in my neck of the woods, I would lose my licence, get a 10,000 USD fine, and maybe even go to jail (Switzerland is not just sweet chocolate). This is not a criticism; it's just that at way slower speeds, there are fewer chances for things to go awry. I'm a slow rider by choice, and also because I know the limits of my skills. Thanks for the videos.
if a deer jumps out in front of you at whatever speed you want mid-turn, if you don't know how to swerve or brake, you're still going to be screwed because hope isn't an option instagram.com/motojitsuclub/
Talking about eye position i have a hard time, when watching motovids, not watching where i would go. Need to pay attention to what is being said or where they are going
@@MotoJitsu Of course! I meant it as sarcasm lol. I’m a new rider, maybe just a month into riding, and have been learning quite a bit with your videos! Keep them coming!
That’s not strictly true though, Fabio Quatararo has great corner speed on his M1 Yamaha as this is the strong point of the bike , so he keeps his speed through the corners as well as a good exit so No slow corner speed is not always the right choice, that’s my opinion but I’m no expert, I do ride and I watch the Moto GP 😊
yeah this is street riding dude with street riders, not some of the best riders in the world on the best bikes on perfect tracks...so none of that is relevant
@@MotoJitsu aha yeah I hear ya, true, I never thought of it like that but yes that makes sense and I totally agree with your theory of “ to get the corner over and done with so you can exit better “ that’s definitely the way it should be done ✅ Thanks for the great advice and tips bro , we appreciate you 👍🏾
You're right but by pointing at the racers as an example you gave out a free pass to shoot down your point. Go and find your average, skilled, street (twisties) riding, non- paranoid about their skills, motorcyclist and they thoroughly enjoy performing higher speed, higher lean angle corners rather than stop start cornering. It's the fun part of riding. Additionally in many regions of the planet (as opposed to tiny californian echo chambers), speed limits are something people need to be aware of so corners are the only times anyone gets to have fun on a bike without copping a speeding fine so why choose to ruin that. Slowing right down and then powering out isn't developing any cornering skills. Riding like that in any of the ride groups i'm part of you would get left behind unless you're going doing massively over the speed limit on the straight bits and I expect its the same for a lot of other riders.
@@MrBCRC I 💯 agree dude, I bought the Triumph speed triple Rs without even thinking about it, BIG mistake…there’s literally no point in changing up to even 4th gear as it’s already at the speed limit in 3rd 😂 but yeah Ju-jitsu makes very good points re cornering with great technique, I was just pointing out that high corner speed in the corners is not always a bad thing but yes for the Street and the twistys he’s 💯 right, personally I like to practice keeping a good speed in some corners just to learn more for myself 👍🏾
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Yep, i followed ur advice from previous videos, started working on fundamentals and I can say my overall confidence, feeling over a bike is totally improved 😊
Throughout my 20s & early 30s, I've always been lucky to ride my buddy's sport bikes with them. At 39 i finally got my own first bike, '22 streetbob 114, as mentally everything changed and I just wanted to cruise. Your channel has always provided great insight and I always keep your knowledge shared in mind when out riding. Priceless information! Thanks!
That's a wicked bike the 22 bob! I had the 09, when it was still in the Dyna family, it was my favorite bike I ever owned (so far) lol
#2 point, trail braking vs engine braking. I didn’t realize I had a happy mix until you pointed it out, I just love the pops and growls I get hearing my bike decelerate. I actually was thinking ‘best practice’ was that I should be trail braking instead. Love your tidbits of info, clear explanations and examples
@ approx 20 minutes I picked up on 1 comment, that the idea of choosing to tempilary remove 1 skill you are good confident and comfortable doing, so that you can concentrate on an identified weakness in your ability & IMO it is 1 single lesson not taught enough & it's the 1st time I've heard you say it directly. Yes it is often covered that you don't use all of your skills you know all the time, bc some conditions don't require all techniques all the time, but to deliberately sacrifice some brain power to allow further learning is not pushed enough. To be fair most people need to open their minds a little to begin to learn to recognise their weaknesses but will prefer to be out riding & having fun & thus not be self judgemental, well until post wallet emptied & bike damaged time & they think what went wrong
You're a gem, and a clear no nonsense teacher. Instead of listening to music I'll be listening to your videos when riding! 😊
thanks but I recommend music or nothing at all...not my videos to listen to :)
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Thank you for this I’ve been riding solo for a long time and use all these fundamentals .. as soon as I get offered into a group to ride it’s so dangerous I’ve seen a lot of riders do no look back before changing lanes even on highway . I tried again riding with this group and same thing multiple times they almost got hit .. I don’t think they are trained on scanning . For me I’m always scanning
Boy, we do make a lot of mistakes don't we 😂
😀
You picked a dangerous hobby so there's many mistakes you can make
@@OriginalUsername9000 Best pick up fishing then 🤭
@@marcdieters5605 feel free to do that if you don't like constantly improving your riding skills
@@OriginalUsername9000hobby? Some of us its our only transportation.
I would LOVE to live in a place where car drivers pulled over to let me make progress, you’re a lucky man!
thanks for the video, im a new rider, im on a mt 07, im not any straganger to 2 wheels most of my life i did downhill trails and so on im just getting used to all that weight and corner lines, the trail brake is something everyone should know how to do being on a car or a motorcycle i actually do that by instict when i think im going to fast to that corner i brake a a little and i slowly take pressure from the rear brakes and start do give it gas and take out angle when the turn is about to end, but still im not quite used to all that weight so im still a bit afraid of giving too much angle and lose the front end
Thanks again, Greg. I just loved your commentary, especially about scanning. You explain exactly what you mean with examples over and over again. Wish I could take real lesdons from you. Lrarn from the best.
Along with MSF courses , this video and Champ School Street Course should be an easy choice for all riders. Nice job. You just hit a grand slam with this video.
MSF are basic, 8th grade level classes, I've taken them all and used to teach them. MotoJitsu.com/courses has a LOT more higher level training courses for you.
I am not superfast in the twisties, but go the speed limit or a little more on my Honda Shadow 1100. I find that I rarely need to do more than tip my upper body in a bit to mitigate lean angle. No need to exaggerate. Works at city speeds too.
try not moving your body at all and just intentionally counter steer.
@MotoJitsu absolutely do do that, but if I misjudge, or there's a patch of sketchy road that comes up, it doesn't take much lean to be able to put your bike more upright without braking.
👍🏼
Greg, I've been watching your videos for years. For cornering, this is up there with some of your best. Since acquiring a big V-Twin, I was unsure of its cornering finesse. Everything in this video just works superbly. The only difference is the huge Torque between 2,000 & 3,000 rpms. If I don't wait for the corner exit in a curve and Throttle too hard, the bike will literally come out of my hands! I really have to wait before coming on the Throttle and pointing in the right direction, for sure.
Great commentary, at like 12 mins you start staying Look scan, bird road, look, scan, etc etc. Your eyes are constantly moving and the faster you go the faster you have to do that....
I tell my students that riding is work, you cant be lazy and complacent and build the wrong/bad habits. The faster you go, the more work that is involved, or you die.
At first it was very heavy and tiring, but over the years of doing the right thing you get used to the vision and adapting your thoughts and mind and scanning to see faster and farther.
I took your advice, and also practice some fundamentals skills. And 2 days ago when I hop on my bike, went to the nearest canyon road. And I realized I'm getting faster. Thanks
Yes, thanks to your video's, my riding improved a lot. Still watching and still learning ✌️✌️✌️
watched this 11 times then go practice trying to use your speedo as guide for entry riding a vmax 1700 that i used to be nervous about pushing into corner great help now i dont feel iam going too slow i tell people you can learn almost anything on utube vmax 3rd gear crazy fast out of curves thank you for your help
Also, jumping around on the bike changing body position consumes alot more energy. So important to also stay in good physical shape to sharpen your riding skills. Loved this video..thanks 😎👍
Thank you very much Mr Perfect.
I wouldn't know what to do without ya!!
Your best tutorial yet. Thanks :)
Love these videos .. although aware of these concepts, its good to be reminded some times. 👍
Man the roads you ride are awesome.
Personally, I think you should apply trail braking at every blind bend, even on a clear bend there may be an object on the road!
Then you can stop safely in the bend when necessary, without changing the geometry of the motorcycle too extreme, which could lead to a crash.
Good video to have fun and learn something. Cheers.
good to know as a new rider; still taking it super easy but wanna get the fundamentals down solid first!
can I just say, this shit has been really fun lol
YES!!!! GREAT VIDEO.. WERE WAS THIS VIDEO WAY BACK... BAD ACCIDENT ONE MONTH AT THE HOSPITAL, great videos,
Thanks!
A little too much lean and a little sand or gravel on the paved road and it's "Slide time". Costly.
that's why you take dirt courses to learn how to slip and slide and recover without freaking out. MotoJitsu.com/courses
Could you demonstrate rev matching and pulling the front brakes at the same time? I'm curious how riders do specially on track.
Already have videos on this and videos on why it’s not necessary, even on track
@MotoJitsu thanks for the reply.And can you share links for those videos?
search "motojitsu rev match"
No need to to do both at the same time
During mid corner, you still have a little bit throttle to keep traction of the rear tire to the ground? Or zero throttle? Or it depends?
Once I’m done leaning and my steering is done, I crack open the throttle to maintain the speed. Nothing to do with rear tire or traction
You're riding in my area! I live off of Skyline Truck Trail! Those are amazing riding roads!😆
Gracias
Love from the U.K.
I'd be interested in your doing a video that gives your philosophy on speed limits, reasonable speeds and risks to others. I believe the California statutory speed limit for roads like Lyons Valley Road/Lawson Valley Road is 65 mph, and you generally stay under that (with a few moments well over 70). I do respect your visual scanning and mental acuity but also note there's a million ranches with side roads and trash cans lined up to be collected, as well as posted bicycle signs giving even slow bicycles the right to use the main lane. California law now requires a vehicle to change lanes to go around a stopped garbage truck, which puts that vehicle on a head-on path to your motorcycle whenever the truck is stopped in the opposite lane. Or the vehicle passing a stopped truck going your direction may block your evasive path if the timing is inconvenient. With respect to the posted non-mandatory advisory speeds for curves, you are typically negotiating them (legally) at 2x to 2.5x the posted advisory. Again, I appreciate the advantages of the mental processing speed and reflexes of a young man like yourself (enjoy it while you can -- hehe). But how do you assess the level of risk your riding style presents to others -- for example, stopped utility vehicles, bicycles, vehicles coming at you in a single lane while passing, cross-traffic, etc.? The higher your speed, the more truncated is your reaction time and stopping distance. As the old saying goes: Speed kills. The general public doesn't really care if a single rider dies as a result of his own choices, but the threat to others seems a proper subject for discussion. How do you assess that?
Depends on the road/ traction/ surroundings/ what I'm doing, etc. On the highway, if there's medium traffic I'm usually going slightly faster than the flow of traffic...if it's light traffic, I'm usually on cruise control under 80.
Where's the right-hand operation picture in picture?
What’s rode are you riding on ? I’m going to San Diego next week what are some rode’s you recommend I check out ?
🏴love from Scotland 🏴
Excellent training vid..
Thanks
Welcome
Great vids. What tyres (tires) do you have on the GS?
Just made a video about them, how to get rid of chicken strips on new tires
Prof. MotoJitsu, is there a chance you can show us a Japanese Police style training exercise demo?
already have videos of it.
first, nice to see more tips for twisties, greetings from Brazil
what bike is that?
Awesome 😎 stuff.
when you scan back do you move your eyes or you doing it peripheral?
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Do you recommend downshifting before the corner or when you're exiting after realizing gear and speed don't match?
You only down shift if you slow down so much the next lower gear make sense.
What roads do u go ride in socal I'm in OC and keep trying to find more and more places to go to closest set of twisties is highway 74 for me. Do you have any good intermediate recommendations?
about body position, I was riding behind a group did 30 mph and all of them throwing their body on every single corner LOL
A note you made is also something that really gets my goat. It's the hot doggers (the immature idiots i.e. the "instagram heros"), who think likes in Social Media are more valuable than life and limb.
Yeah, about that. I just read a news report yesterday of a guy doing stupid crap on a motorcycle, being filmed by a friend. He lost control of his motorcycle and not only injured himself fatally (yeah, he died!), he took out his friend with the bike, injuring him seriously AND seriously injured two children of a family who were parked on the side of the road too at that same corner.
I actually think hot dogging videos should be banned from social media. Nobody should "go viral" by doing stupid crap.
one thing you can do is not watch it or talk about it.
@@MotoJitsuwhy????
I don't think that completely ignoring everything does the job. I think the best way is to acknowledge that those mentioned things sadly happen on daily basis but not let them affect on your personal life.
@@MotoJitsu 1. Not watching it isn't possible. The crap gets shown to you automatically in Reels or TikTok or in a Facebook feed. You are "made aware" of it, without your asking for it. Sure, I could just not use those apps, but I also want the advantages of them too (mainly Facebook feed to keep up with friends).
2. Do you mean talk about it like, "Hey check this idiot out"? Sharing? I don't do that. On the contrary, I'll usually write a comment about my dislike for the crap posted and that is about it.
IMHO, allowing stupid crap and even lies/ mistruths onto social media platforms is why so many people with a phone are getting more ignorant by the year.
Your spiders sense tells you that he is not in your
rearview,... he is next to you.
Astute insights!
Is there any negative to trail braking?
no
Hello MotoJitsu, I like your videos a lot. I would like to see you from behind so i know how you use your body when its necessery. I would recommend a Insta360 which can hang from the back of your bike so u can use some footage from behind. Thanks for your effort making us better riders.
I have one, never used it. Gives a distorted point of view and whenever I can find someone to follow me I will.
Sorry for a dumb question,but what is trail braking?
releasing the pressure on the brake as you lean. I have numerous videos on this topic.
Ok sweet thanks. New to your channel and wanting to get into riding.
What bike are you riding in this video?
2020 BMW R1250 GS
@@MotoJitsu thank you
70 MPH = 120 KMH (roughly). At that speed on that kind of road in my neck of the woods, I would lose my licence, get a 10,000 USD fine, and maybe even go to jail (Switzerland is not just sweet chocolate). This is not a criticism; it's just that at way slower speeds, there are fewer chances for things to go awry. I'm a slow rider by choice, and also because I know the limits of my skills. Thanks for the videos.
if a deer jumps out in front of you at whatever speed you want mid-turn, if you don't know how to swerve or brake, you're still going to be screwed because hope isn't an option
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Nice vid
ahahaha there is a rabbit 😄
California roads are made different because I would be more scared with the layout
Talking about eye position i have a hard time, when watching motovids, not watching where i would go. Need to pay attention to what is being said or where they are going
What about corner fast AND exit fast? 🤔🤭
it's all relative...exiting fast is always the priority
@@MotoJitsu Of course! I meant it as sarcasm lol. I’m a new rider, maybe just a month into riding, and have been learning quite a bit with your videos! Keep them coming!
you have do merch with ur sentence you can't shot something you can't see👕
good info… but repeating the same point over and over makes it hard to follow. 🤷🏻♂️
some people have hard heads and don't get the message the 1st time around.
fair 😂
That’s not strictly true though, Fabio Quatararo has great corner speed on his M1 Yamaha as this is the strong point of the bike , so he keeps his speed through the corners as well as a good exit so No slow corner speed is not always the right choice, that’s my opinion but I’m no expert, I do ride and I watch the Moto GP 😊
yeah this is street riding dude with street riders, not some of the best riders in the world on the best bikes on perfect tracks...so none of that is relevant
@@MotoJitsu aha yeah I hear ya, true, I never thought of it like that but yes that makes sense and I totally agree with your theory of “ to get the corner over and done with so you can exit better “ that’s definitely the way it should be done ✅ Thanks for the great advice and tips bro , we appreciate you 👍🏾
you're welcome!
You're right but by pointing at the racers as an example you gave out a free pass to shoot down your point. Go and find your average, skilled, street (twisties) riding, non- paranoid about their skills, motorcyclist and they thoroughly enjoy performing higher speed, higher lean angle corners rather than stop start cornering. It's the fun part of riding.
Additionally in many regions of the planet (as opposed to tiny californian echo chambers), speed limits are something people need to be aware of so corners are the only times anyone gets to have fun on a bike without copping a speeding fine so why choose to ruin that.
Slowing right down and then powering out isn't developing any cornering skills. Riding like that in any of the ride groups i'm part of you would get left behind unless you're going doing massively over the speed limit on the straight bits and I expect its the same for a lot of other riders.
@@MrBCRC I 💯 agree dude, I bought the Triumph speed triple Rs without even thinking about it, BIG mistake…there’s literally no point in changing up to even 4th gear as it’s already at the speed limit in 3rd 😂 but yeah Ju-jitsu makes very good points re cornering with great technique, I was just pointing out that high corner speed in the corners is not always a bad thing but yes for the Street and the twistys he’s 💯 right, personally I like to practice keeping a good speed in some corners just to learn more for myself 👍🏾
Thanks!
No problem!