How To Fix Excessive Entry Speed Like A Pro
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If you find yourself in a corner too fast for your comfort, ROLLLLLL off the gas and/or ADD some brake pressure by SQUEEEZZZZIINNNGG. Don't just give up and "lean more bro" that may not be the best choice in that moment of mild-panic. Stay with the brakes, is a much wiser solution. OBVIOUSLY look on your intended path of travel...I didn't focus on that because if you're not first slowing the damn bike down, you'll just see the guardrail you're about to crash into faster. www.motojitsu.com/courses
My dad here in the UK was an advanced driving instructor in the 80s, taught me how to drive and a bit about riding motorbikes. one thing thats stuck with me that you said about doing courses, he would say 'a driving licence is a licence to go learn more about driving. passing your test means you are competent to drive on the road but you should after getting more experience on the road, go learn advanced ways to drive, things to look out for, how to drive more efficently, to be more smooth for passengers and so on'.
thats one thing when i feel im driving not at my best comes to my head and next week or so after i try to be a better driver and rider.
Hey. I found myself in a similar situation the other day and did exactly that. Roll and squeeeeeze. Worked a treat. Although I did still panic 😳. Anyway all good. What if the road is wet? Apologies if it’s a silly question but I’m a new rider here in the UK.
It is just great how you can explain and give your knowledge to the others. I learned and take license for motorcycle in army like MP almost 30 years ago. Most of the things you explain in your videos I already know but some of this didn't know what I am doing 😂😂 . It's more easier to drive when you know how your reaction affect to the motorcycle. Best regards from Serbia
I've been in that mild panic situation before in a corner. Luckily for whatever reason I applied this technique and it saved me. Not what I was taught but it works!
@@jeffpulford2884
I think he would say you need to practice braking in a wet car park to get a feel for the brakes in the wet.
My advice would be when you can afford to, buy quality tyres that have good wet weather performance (we live in the uk (i live in Scotland lol) so it does rain a lot).
And watch out for rainbows on the tarmac on roundabouts, when it rains it brings the diesel up to the top and turns that patch into ice. If a truck driver doesnt do the cap up properly as leaves fuel station, first corner is usually a roundabout so the overspill happens there. Bit of advanced driving my dad told me, be careful where you know fuel garage for that situation.
Hope you enjoy riding.
I'm 81 years old and have been riding since I was 14. Your advice on use of the brakes is great, and well explained, especially the need to practice. BUT, I've stopped at more a half dozen scenes where a rider has run off the road or crossed the yellow line coming too hot into a turn. There is one constant. The riders panicked and failed to keep their eyes on the exit, sensed they were getting close to the edge, and looked down to see if they were going to go over. Of course they went over as soon as their eyes saw a target. Watching for the exit causes the rider to automatically increase counter-steer, tightening the turn. Won't help if you are so tight that hard parts, not just spring mounted pegs, are dragging so much that tires lift. Then you are just screwed. The beauty of all of this is, as you said, practice when you are not in an emergency situation.
Been riding 40 years on every imaginable kind of bike. On and off road. Sports bikes, Touring bikes, Old vintage bikes and even quads.
It’s really difficult to explain how to ride. Like explaining to child how to ride a bicycle before they get up and try it. Having said that, I think your making a great effort and your vids are probably very helpful to many new riders. The only thing I would like to add is how valuable it is to learn to ride off road. And the importance of NEVER riding at 100%. Even if you want to ride fast, keep it to a level well within the skill level you think you have. 80 - 90 % of your max speed unless you are on a track.
100% agree!
Spot on ! Your advice applies in fact on all high-risk activities. On sailing, diving, parachuting, always keep a range of flexibility to adapt to the unexpected shit that will occur, sooner or later.
I'm riding a kpm 200 as my first street bike and its 100% is like 70mph. (honestly only 65mph because I'm a heavyset rider.) I'm finding that I'm riding the bike to its 95% most of the time, just to keep up with traffic, but not even reaching 80% of my potential as a rider.
@@alfuriusstraut8721 Sounds like a perfect bike to learn on.
I crashed a moped and ended up in hospital in Thailand a few years ago. Had 30 years experience and thought I was well safe….. you never know.
i absolutely agree because i am old like you. when i was 20 i always went 100% or more. so age is a factor too
I once came into a corner to hot. It was so scary it’s seared into my memory. It was on Highway one in California, on a 30° steep downhill grade, decreasing radius, on a 300’ cliff down to the pacific. Because I was going downhill, I was already on the brakes, and when I realized I was coming in too hot, I honestly panicked. I tensed up, the last thing on my mind was leaning the bike more LOL, I just smoothly applied the *front* brakes as aggressively as possible. To be honest, I probably was well within the limits of the motorcycle and tires, but I was at MY limit. Breaking hard helped me navigate the turn in a way that simply leaning more wouldn’t, as I felt I was at the limit of my lean and it did not seem like an option at the time. I was under the impression that any sort of breaking in a corner would cause the tire to wash out, but you’d be surprised how much the front tire can handle if brakes are applied smoothly and your body position is correct.
I've been there too! I did same as you, thanks for replying with your experience.
Greetings from Newark, California
@@robdonell9915 greetings to you, Yosemite foothills.
I had exactly the same thing n it’s seared into my mind. I didn’t know anything that is in this vid but I tensed up, did the ease on the brakes n somehow naturally got thru it. I find in these situations that somehow my body knows what to do, I had to take a moment after the corner but all was well. Also I would advise counter steering, just a minute push opposite on the bars can REALLY help your cornering.
What was the correct body position?
One more tip which can help a lot is that when you are in this panic situation and push the brakes into a turn, don't forget the vision part, you have to look where you want to go while you are braking.
Regards from Greece!
Good point. Target fixation is guaranteed crash. ALWAYS look where you want the bike to go.
Exactly. Look THROUGH the bend. Don't panic by focusing on the potential point of impact, you'll only head for it.
Looking through the turn was SCREAMING at me while watching this. Excellent point. Thumbs up.
Exactly, it was actually stupid leaving that out, it's the most important part of cornering and trail braking at the same time, noobs usually don't know this. He should take this video down and edit it, looking through the corner and trail braking are part of the same technique, big fail not linking the two together...
I took 18 years off from riding and recently got back in to the saddle. Unfortunately I found I was taking turns like a newbie - I had lost a lot of skill and confidence over time. I started taking really early rides on weekends (no traffic to worry about) to practice specific turns and roads that I felt I was having trouble with. I focused on how to ease in brakes, lean with confidence, to trust the bike and even how leaning your own weight forward can affect turning. I noticed within a few sessions my confidence and skills grew enough that I was able to keep control when I over shot a turn on an totally unfamiliar road. Practicing a skill can really help you keep your cool in a situation that demands that skill; it massively decreases the time from the initial panic to executing a solution and that increased reaction speed keeps you out of the bushes and guard rails.
PRACTICE is the key Doing before the situation demands---> panic stops & tight turns
Maybe think about a 1 day lesson. The instructor will see and fix your weaknesses. In 1 day.
...and that is why you are a smart guy...keep up the good work
@@rawhide966 Teaching he RLAP I found that probably only 2% of riders have ever done a panic stop practice. The rest usually laid them down from, overbraking rears and a slideout crash! My guys were cutting stop distances in HALF after just 8-10 trys!
Started riding motorcycles 60 years ago. Thank You for passing on your wisdom to all of us. You are saving lives and educating the inexperienced. Ride on and Ride Safe!
60.....that s three generations....respect
As a road cyclist that can't rely on engine braking, I found out early on that gentle brake pressure when you've overcooked a corner is a necessary survival tool. This skill has translated well to the moto. Great advice! Thanks!
P.S.- Your enthusiasm is contagious.
preparing when entering -> front break already loaded & throttle rolling off relax & focus
it's kind of amazing how many motorcycle riders have ultra limited experience riding bicycles, i find it fascinating...
Same here im mofe of a bycicle rider than motorcycle rider. You cant belive how much riding bycicle helps you with motorcycle riding. When on bycicle i overcocked the corners milion times the breaks are the only solution. Being gentle is the key and to know wich brake to apply at given situation.
I can assure you that there are plenty of motorists that have and still ride bikes. Pretty different animal. 50+ mph, 500 to 1000lbs. Situations happen at an exponentially faster rate. Most bicyclists don’t ride on main roads, highways or rural routes. I would suggest trying a motorcycle before trying to be a critical expert. I mean, I rode a tricycle too.
the best thing i learned from you and champ school is the tire can take a hell of a load... it can NOT take an abrupt mode. (brake and/or gas), ... this gave me confidence to use my brakes as much as the throttle. game changer man
I’ve been riding more than 20 years and I find your videos super helpful man, so good, and realistic. The amount of time experience riding means nothing if your not actually practicing skills.
Started riding bikes in 1974 and front brake was taboo especially going round corners.40 years later have started riding again and mate, have watched a lot of your videos.Thankyou so much.They say 'cant teach an old dog new tricks '.Being an old bugger now ,self preservation is foremost.You have given me the knowledge and confidence I was lacking this time round .Ur cool dude.
Its unfortunate that the "never front brake" guidance has continued for decades and still persists.
Same thing here went log time not riding. Have internet now and there was so much I didn’t know always can learn more
42 yrs ago on my 1st day of road race school I learned, hang the crack of my ass off of the seat . Did that every time I rode fast, and became second nature. I agree with everything you said, and if you are ''hanging off'' you can always lean more than you think, and if the frame levers the tires off the pavement , you are low to the ground and less likely to get launched in a ''high side.''
A miracle Darwins haven't catch you up yet...
But I have had semi-trucks barrel past me, on very windy day, and I've fought to keep out of a high-speed wobble. In that case, my anus would suck to the seat, and I couldn't move my ass crack over the seat.
I am recovering from from a crash where I came into a corner too fast. It was a pretty easy corner but I wasn't paying attention. I panicked and jammed the front and rear brake, if I would not have panicked I would have followed everything he is showing in this video. I know what he shows is exactly what I should have done.
I've been riding only two years and find you to be such a great teacher, I am really grateful for your experience and ability to retrain what we had been told. I found I was doing some of the things you teach and was wondering why I hadn't crashed! Then I see your videos and am so thankful! You tell us that was all entry level ideas and we HAVE to go past that! I'm older and willing to learn from others. May God bless your ride always.
To have you as an instructor, while taking my license here in Sweden- is beyond incredible! They do teach me what I need to know, to break properly - but You make it so much easier!!! ✨️ Thank you! ❤
I remember you had a video where you demonstrated braking in turns. You were braking quite hard, in turn after turn, and your bike was perfectly fine with that. Seeing that, that was really helpful!
It helped me to become more confident about braking in turns, and as a result, I feel safer now. It's comforting to know that should the need arise, I can always brake.
By now I can't imagine riding without this, because on the road, we should never be in a situation where we would be afraid to brake.
I was in this situation a couple of years ago on a bike I was uncomfortable on. I thought I was going to crash, but I didn’t. Pure luck. I went home and quit riding for a long time. Just recently turned in that bike for a smaller cc bike and started working on the motojitsu drills. I haven’t gotten past white belt but do feel a lot more confident on this bike. I’m slowly working my way through curves and have learned a lot. I will take this advise and add it to my skills. I’m fighting my fear of riding with action and practice. Thank you for all the knowledge you put into the world.
I have been riding now for 6 months and learning from this channel. It's scary when you realize your in the corner to hot. Knowing how to trail brake has saved me on a few corners already. My skill has increased and those same corners are easy now. I always practice track standing at all stop lights and signs. I need to practice the cones so I can pass the California course test. I originally thought I would find a smaller bike for test but this channel has taught that it's not the bike but the skill of the rider.
Great stuff. I loved the "rolling hills and mountains" analogy.
I like how you don't do a big reveal until near the end of a lesson, leaving room for your audience to attempt to figure it out for themselves.
Makes people think.
Many of your skills, I can figure out where you are going, having worked through the exact lesson over time in my head as I have ridden. I have said since day one of riding, "don't get cocky, you will always be a student here"... so every ride I evaluate every move and decision, and try to learn as much as I can.
Your lessons bring some of those lessons a clarity and understanding, and reinforcement.
Then there is the knowledge you share that I never even considered.
Excellent work, saving lives, I am sure!
Good Man.
Thanks so much for dropping the knowledge. I'm in my first year of riding - your app has helped me tons and I am enrolled in an off-road class for this coming weekend. Your philosophy speaks volumes to me (love the tough love) - keep cranking out the content!
Thank you for this. I wrecked about 4 months ago and then almost a week ago I had a close call. Both were due to going into a corner a little too quick and you have given me some things I need to work on and practice.
This video couldn’t be better timing for me! Just Saturday I was out with a group and took a few curves too hot and I did use both break and no throttle feeling the entire time like I was doing it all wrong! I’m happy to learn I wasn’t and that my “stick shift driving” instincts are still good after many years😊.
Greg, I found this video very significant. One of my main difficulties is to predict the behaviour of the rear brake on the road: I only use it consciously at low speed manouvering but most of the times (eg. urban riding)it seems as it doesn't exist. I know it's not the case, so your tips on how to use it clarified my mind. Thank you!
Excellent content as always Greg. Your channel has seriously changed the way I think about my riding - coming back this year to motorcycles after a 28 year break, your content provides an amazing resource for breaking down my weaknesses and improving them systematically.
I really appreciate your videos. You have helped me overcome a lot of anxiety and better learn the limits of my bike. You have probably saved lives putting this information into the world, so on behalf of everyone smart enough to implement your advice into their driving, thank you.
Thank you!! This always seemed like the correct action. I even do it instinctually when I’m hitting curves on highways and am going too fast and realize I’m going wide. I always lay off the throttle and I regain control. I still have stock tires on my bike so I would be so anxious to try to add lean into a tight corner
This makes me feel better that I was correcting my speed as you said, naturally. My heart was in my throat a couple times. Being quick, BUT smooth and gradual was fine. Leaning more for my skill level would have definitely made me more nervous than just making a smooth break while letting off the throttle. I have been told this was wrong, but it worked for a decreasing radius that wasn't marked at all and scared the shit out of me when I first started riding. Keeping your body calm, even when you're scared is paramount. I hadn't been riding long and I zoned out a little, thinking the curve was gradual. I got on the brakes pretty hard by the end of it, but I did it gradually. Worked like a charm. Your videos have helped me so much.
I watched a moto GP video that showed the rider breaking so hard in the turn that his rear tire lifted. That was precision progressive breaking at its finest. It made me rethink my aversion to heavy breaking into a turn.
Practicing these techniques has saved my bacon more than once. I now know to calm down, keep my focus, make my actions as smooth and as progressive as possible, and never bail - just keep up the focus until I’m either through it or crashed.
I was a private pilot and lost an engine one time and I was sure glad that I had practiced emergency landings.
Practice and teaching ourselves to calm down in times of stress are essential to riding safely.
Well done on the video!
Thank you so much for the Marine Corps definition of panic. I have been struggling to find the simplest way to explain it to students in my classes and this is by far the best way I have come across to explain it. Super helpful. Thanks for everything you post.
What a great instructor you are!! I am 75 yrs. old and still ride a Harley Davidson motorcycle. I agree with all you have shared in this video. I wish all motorcycle instructors would share these safety riding skills with their students rather than advise them not to use their brakes in a curve. An outstanding job!!
Right with ya at 70, and I've even been cut off in a formation by a guy who was told "to use the whole lane" in a turn. Apparently, beginner advice does NOT induce common sense or make you a rider!
Thank you, you have probably saved my life in advance! When I get a bike again I shall of course practice what you have said here. When I had a bike in the 70's I remember vividly such 'too fast' corners and had no idea what to do. This led me to be frightened of riding a motorbike to a certain degree. Because of your calm, confident instruction I'm convinced I will be able to handle them in the future. Panic is indeed when you are unprepared. Actors really only get stage fright or super nervous when they haven't learned their lines properly. I know!
30+ years riding, MSF instructor for 12 years, taught for BMW Adventure school a couple of years. MSF Basic Rider course emphasizes the separation of braking and turning because each uses some amount of traction. New riders are overwhelmed enough without introducing ‘advanced’ cornering. As long as you don’t blend braking and turning incorrectly and don’t use more traction than available, you can use your brakes in a turn. The best explanation for braking and turning I have ever read was in Nick Ienatsch’s “Sport Riding Techniques”.
Braking and turning at the same time is a no brainer and should be taught from day ONE....
@@MickH60 You would’ve been an outstanding student to have in class, for sure. You could demonstrate how to pick the bike up after demonstrating your awesome trail braking technique on the practice range. 👍🏼
The ones that really catch me out are those super tight bends, this is a great video
70 years young been riding since I was 16 years old !! Did my first track day at 60 and during this session a racer took me out for a spin he followed as I went round. In all the years of riding I had been told not to use the brakes on corners then this young dude showed me how it should and can be done even at race pace Every day a day at school no matter how old you are ??? The best advice I have ever been given it bum /ass time on the seat The more you ride the better you will be.. Great vid lets hope it saves a few lives !!
This video saved me. New rider (1 month), found Motojitsu and watched as much as I could before riding. This information helped me realize exactly what was happening and how to respond appropriately without panicking. Downward decreasing radius and I was drifting, I just rolled off the throttle until I felt confident enough to counter-steer and find a better line!
Thank you for the knowledge and information you are sharing!
love the vid, this is so true to my experience, motorcycle riding is a constant state of negotiating with yourself, the mental work that goes on is immense; Greg is a great psychologist to understand and speak about that
Man thanks so much for making these videos. I went a little too fast into a hairpin curve the other day and scared myself to death. Ultimately it was the brake that saved me but I had poor control and my back end wobbled a bit. Now thanks to you I know a little better and I can go practice so that the next hairpin won't be my last!
Appreciate this video a lot. It’s really helpful to hear that it’s safe to brake responsibly in a turn. As a new rider riding daily since February but being taught to never brake in a turn this gives me some additional confidence in defensive riding
In this video I learned that I've been riding longer than you, yet you are so much better at it than I am. That goes to show that 15 years experience isn't the same as 1 year experience repeated 15 times. Thanks for your explanations and everything you do. I definitely had the misconception that any braking other than straight up and down was dangerous, and I'm reprogramming my brain accordingly. I just finished Yamaha Champion Riding School's online thing, and I learned so much just in a couple days. I also bought some cones and have been doing Motojitsu with my girlfriend in parking lots. Thanks again for all your help. You're probably saving lives.
Great advise, I’m notorious in a good way for slightly dragging my rear break and clutch control through unexpected tight turns. But every scenario is different.
Thank you, this advice could literally be life saving! They way you explained it and confirmed what you meant by it is truly helpful!
Thank you Brandy :) See ya tomorrow for live
Thanks for the vid. Riding on lots of mountain twisties in western Colorado gives me tons of practice. I sometimes intentionally go a “little” too hot into the turns to practice exactly that. Off the throttle and Gradual brake pressure. BTW, I’m 69 and female on my Heritage lovin’ the ride. 😉
Watching your channel for a while now and has built my confidence in braking sooo much...I stay with the brakes in corners now and haven't had any brown pants since.
I think your “singing” toward the end was the most helpful to relate when & how much to gently squeeze the brakes on a turn. This is the best explanation I’ve heard of the procedure to follow that I came on by accident when entering a turn too fast & panic was about to set in - it definitely worked!
Very important, to downshift before the turn. Don't overcook the corner Get your RPM up, Lean, press, and turn. Using higher RPM in a corner, gives you greater ability to adjust your turn radius, by simply increasing or decreasing the amount of throttle ! Using this technique, a rider can sometimes even begin accelerating, while cornering,..(instead of trying to slow down in the middle of a turn, in order to save their life) !
My wife and I just started riding again after 18 years and noticed a big difference between riding my motorcycle in the city of Cleveland Ohio and the difference in riding these winding country roads of West Virginia, even though we had several years under our belts riding it was a night and day difference totally… We decided to take the MSF safety course which helped us immensely but just didn’t seem like enough until we started doing a whole lot of your training with cones and did your riding techniques over and over until it became first nature when riding…. We have our notifications for your UA-cam videos on and watch them when they are posted, Thanks from the bottom of our hearts for the videos and insight from your experience that you share!!!!
6:05 what to do
8:29 demonstrated and explained
11:57 clarification
18:25 bonus tip
Great video, great advice. I'm still amazed how quickly a bike slows down just by rolling off the throttle and light brake pressure.
Man this channel is absolute gold. Haven’t bought my bike yet, I’m in the research phase pretty much. But not enough channels talk about these situations and what to do.
1. The song: Happy to know I am not the only one who sings things I do sometimes.
2. The panic thing: While doing Rescue Diver training a part of it is all about panic and how to protect yourself from the person you are rescuing. Like you said, they try to climb you.
When you "grab a fist full" you destabilize the bike. It is the rider that crashes the bike not the bike that crashes the rider. You need to allow the bike to respond to your actions. You need to be able to predict those responses. That takes practice and experience.
Very well said
These videos help so much my bike has no tech and the more comfortable I am with my breaks the better rider I become
Tech is not required, what is required is training, skill, and discipline.
@@stephenscharf6293 training includes making mistakes. If you make a mistake with abs you may end up going home just fine, if you make a mistake without abs there's a big chance you're gonna hurt yourself. Tech does not hinder your ability to learn, not having tech does
@@stephenscharf6293 and practice.
@MotoJitsu , I recently had to apply the break in a corner (mild panic) BUT when I did the bike started to stand up out of the lean that I was in which made it like I was giong to run wide. I stayed with the brake, made the corner on my side of the road. I also was happy that nothing was coming up fast behind me. Thank you for making great content that can help us all improve our riding skills .
Great video! As a “new” old rider, it is a good refresher video. Just started riding again after a 30 year absence. Didn’t realize how much fun I had missed in 30 years after I quit. Your DI training sounds like it came in handy for driving course training.
You SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED on looking through the corner and braking at the SAME TIME, because it's ESSENTIAL to keeping the bike going where you want it. You can apply all the brake you want mid corner but, if you're looking where you THINK the bikes going to end up, like over the edge, that's where you'll end up. I've been around racing my whole life and been riding on the road for 45 years and i can tell you, you can trail brake all you like in a corner, but if you're not LOOKING THROUGH THE CORNER, you still end up in the sh1t. There's no , "oh lets talk about that later", It's all part of the same technique.....
Excellent advice 👍. I also believe target fixation is one of the main causes as well during a corner
Yeah - while you're trail braking or leaning - keep eyes up and look where you want to go. Harder than it seems sometimes.
Been riding for 2 months. You doing the “bad” example really helps me visualize. I do get to speed and have overcooked corners. Lucky no accidents yet but i wanna do better. Thanks man.
I've learned to use my breaks in turns thanks to your video's about two years back, it's helped me atleast 3 times not eatin the opposite curb, also the use of the front break is practice people need to get in, I know far to many riders that don't use there front break. I'm so glad you put emphaise on getting to know your break.
You make great points about not just leaning more, but from my personal experience, just remembering “lean more” has saved me a few times. If you trust that countersteering will work, and you find yourself going wide, that quick little “lean more” shouting in your brain as a reflex can save your line (possibly life too). Not saying all the time, but don’t discredit it too much. If you trust that countersteering will work, because you’ve been practicing, it helps you not panic too
If you downshift before your turn, instead of just floating into a turn in the gear that you're in ??? you will (usually) have plenty of control of your rear tire speed (and your motorcycle) without using any rear brake, at all.
Best Advice ; Don't overcook corners.
Breaking when it's already too late is as tricky as leaning more. Both require some practice and confidence in your safety margins. I had this experience a couple time, fortunately with lucky endings. Recently I had a "ho shit too fast" corner and I found myself just leaning more than I ever did. I guess I would probably have been also able to break. The real progress is actually to calibrate the confidence so you don't panic anymore when its getting "hot". And you are very right : practice is everything!
True dat yo! We all have ran into the situation. Unless you’re totally checked out and deserve what you get, I usually break aggressively as straight as possible. Even a second of this can drop 20 mph, which is usually enough. But I don’t panic. That is for some other type and I do practice crazy stuff, including every time I start my ride, like to work, I do brake checks and slow slow speed maneuvering like it’s training. I calibrate myself each time. And it’s fun. So when the time comes, I’ve already done it, recently or something close.
I’ve been side swiped, accidentally rode on rear wires when wet and had the backend go out on a slight turn on a freeway going 80, and so many near death stuff as a lane splitter in California. Never went down. Only once when I was a young kid. That was enough.
I know you've done this info so many times, but it never gets tiring. I appreciate this topic so much. Thank you.
Thank you for this. I love your no nonsense approach and style of training.
(sorry for my poor english) Thank you man. I'm riding during this period of time, learning and waiting for the license exam next month, here in Italy. And I have to say that I almost learned EVERYTHING from you (video and app!), so Thank you again. Now I'm riding safe but most importantly I learned from you the "constant training" state of mind. I turn on the motorbike in the morning to go to work and, as soon as I'm on an empty road, I experiment with countersteering, emergency braking, etc etc, in ANY moment just to be better every day. You push us to improve every day man.
About this video I think that there are 2 variables: the amount of panic state (low / mild / high / extreme) and, on the other hand, the Time you realize the "oh f***" moment. Sometime is too high the state of panic, sometimes you realize that you are in danger too late. And this increases the panic state and so on to infinity. I think that we (as beginner) MUST pay more attention and go at an easier pace, like a musician when start to learn a new piece, we have not to be afraid but at the same time we must take it easy and improve little by little, building not only confidence but our "toolbox" for every situation.
Dave
Have you watched Dan Dan the Fireman’s videos on motorcycle riding? He is another good coach. He focuses more on the mental skills of riding. A good complement to Motojitsu’s physical skills mentoring.
Thank you MotoJitsu. I find myself in doubt of the front tire traction often. Its because of inexperience and will apply front brake not with the idea of slowing down but to increase pressure on the front tire to increase traction and lean more holding steady throttle. I'm a cautious rider and typically over compensate on the slowdown before the turn. I'm sure with more experience will come more confidence but for the most part just enjoy the opportunity to get out and be away. in the first year of riding i would have to tell myself to think about what I needed to do because in a sweeping turn my brain would say turn left or right rather than push left or right and it would put me in panic mode until it became muscle memory.
With experience, you stop thinking about counter steering, it all becomes intuitive and muscle memory, I never ever think about counter steering through bends, it just happens, along with trail braking to bleed of speed, good luck, have patience, riding over 45 years and still upright...
I’m with you brother. I bought my first “bike” (2022 Honda ADV150) back in April. I was gonna grab a KTM Duke 200, but swiftly decided against it since I wanted to focus solely on learning the _dynamics_ of riding without the worry of a clutch. When next spring rolls around, I’m gonna get me a cheap dirt bike to learn how to use a clutch, then trade in my ADV when I’m ready.
ANYWAY lol for 3mos, I was terrified anytime I got into a turn to the point where I’d slow down a lot and lean very little.
2K miles later, I feel like my lean angle is on point & finally have zero anxiety when I ride. I’m slow going in and faster coming out, rather than slow in and slow out.
Like MotoJitsu has said before-You need to take EVERY turn at the speed in which you are COMFORTABLE, period. Being on 2 wheels is always a learning experience & will be until we are very seasoned.
Good luck! We got this 👊🏻
This video, and the one from forever ago where you cover line selection in corners, outside inside outside, are the most valuable ones to me. Thanks!
Explaining is one thing but actually giving live examples. That's what I call a real expert and teacher. And how things should be done. I already know this and do it because it felt natural to me. But getting confirmation from an expert gives more confidence. Thank you so much for the content.
Best regards,
From the Netherlands 🇳🇱✌️
Watching you brake at the lean angle your at is not a problem, but if I’m leaned over way more than your video is showing is it still ok to use the brakes progressively?
Can you do a video leaned over more than this video is showing and then go to the brakes.
In a different video he explains it like this: Imagine you have 100 points of grip for lean + brake. If you have 0 lean you can use 100 brake. If you have 90 lean you can only use 10 brake. Just adapt accordingly so you never exceed your 100 points of grip.
The further you are leaned over, the smoother and more gradual you have to be.
The more the lean angle, the less the brake pressure you can apply. But u can still apply some braking.
Hi Dale, watch a video called 100 points of grip by Champschool, it covers learn angle vs using the brakes..... Greg talks about these guys all the time.
Didn't realise you could sing 🤣
Search motojitsu loud pipes song.
I have loud pipes myself but this song slaps and I couldn't agree more.
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@@jerodkenoyer270 thank you, my day is so much better now that i heard that song
I've ridden a lot. This kind of content is saving riders lives.
It's been 40 years since I got my first bike and I'm still learning things from kids on UA-cam.
Keep it up.
This yes yes. ChampU has taught me so much. I use my brakes on corners if I need to. Haven’t been in panic mode yet but what I did learn is - turn my head more, ride the brakes with constant pressure, lean more. I practice this ALL the time so I know what it feels like for emergencies. I don’t have ABS
Nice but what I noticed from my ridding experience is that if you stick to the speed limit and speed recommendations you will most probably never find yourself in a situation when you have to do a lot to save your ass 😀. If you want to go fast and have fun, please wear a full body suit and go to the track or go faster on the straight, and before corners, go back to speed limit. 😊
Amen
I wish that was emphasized more. When learning to drive a car, the message is "speed kills", but when riding motorcycles, the message is wear gear. Most motorcycle fatalities are the fault of the motorcycle, and most of those don't even involve another vehicle, and most of those involve turns. But the common denominator is SPEED. Gear will prevent road rash, but you don't die from road rash. Motojitsu is an excellent rider/instructor, but something just seems off in the world of riding instruction today. They ignore the 800 lb gorilla in the room. If you feel panic coming into a turn, then you were going too fast. There are definitely riding habits that will allow you to have a long accident free life, and all of those habits deal with avoiding panic.
Yeah but that's boring
@@roberthansen9876 completely agree, maybe it’s my age, but I have no desire to go over 55 or 60 on my bike. I just enjoy riding, taking it all in….especially in the Fall, the foliage and the cool temps. Nothing better for me than an easy ride down some back country lanes.
If you are going the speed limit, you are never too fast for the turn. This whole paradigm requires people to ignore this postulate
I do not have a motor cycle but maybe want to get one. It seems to me as a new rider trying to be safe maybe go slower than the posted speed limit and do not go much over the posted speed limit would be a good starting principle. But again I have no experience.
In which country is the speed limit always safe in the tightest corner? Not every road is a motorway. In my experience it is usually a deterioration in road surface that catches you out or an animal on the road. Trail braking is the safe method because it increases the contact patch and allows you to add more brake when something unexpected happens.
Another great video Greg. Thanks so much for all the work you put into your videos, great content and much appreciated. Cheers from Toronto.
The first time I was going fast and had to slow hard into a turn, I was not prepared for the extra weight in the handlebars and gyro forces on the front wheel. Practicing it before you need it is great advice.
Thanks, man! That helps a lot! Any advice about shifting in the corner?
Pleasure to hearing you again ,all based on the experiences,upgrades the skills the skills and the skills and overthrew the panic!
OK, I completely agree with you. Many years of bicycling and motorcycling, have taught me the hard way, at times. Bicycling taught me the beauty of rear wheel slides, using the rear brake only. I do try them very carefully on my Z1000 and other machines., just to get the feel of rear wheel lock up and slide. It is tricky but manageable in small turns. This saved me from serious hurt a couple of times. A small slide on the rear wheel can make serious direction adjustments when steering and braking alone will not do it. At speed, do only as last resort!
Thanks for your excellent advice. Everything you said makes sense and really works!
Great video. He’s right about advanced training. I just completed a 2-day California Superbike School, Levels 1/2. It changed everything and I’ve been riding 8 years or so. I didn’t realize until I took that class how many bad habits I had and how little I knew, especially about cornering.
Thanks for the great video. Once the snow is gone here in Canada I'll be starting my second season riding. I've learned a lot from your videos that was not covered on my beginner course. This one was no different. Just to add to the conversation and for anyone who might say "just ride slower", a situation I found myself in was coming around a familiar curve at a very comfortable speed and someone had decided they needed to stop their car and trailer on the side of the road, mid curve (stupid and dangerous). There was oncoming traffic and I had no choice but to brake hard in the curve. But as you said steadily increasing brake pressure is the way to go. I was able to slow right down and wait for a chance to pass. Anyway, I'd love it if you could expand on this video and maybe address emergency braking in a curve. Thanks again!
I found your videos and love them!! I have been riding for awhile and thought I was pretty decent...I am realizing after watching some of your videos I am "operating" a motorcycle...I want to be able to RIDE a motorcycle.. I hope after practicing your techniques I will be able to confidently RIDE my motorcycle...thanks again keep the videos coming
Thank you so much Greg - your teaching style is invaluable !!!
Months after watching this video (among others you’ve made) I can confidently say this saved me and my bike.
You are great, in what you are showing to
us...when I drive my bike I sometimes hear your voice in my head, telling me f.e. slow down....easily....thank you!!!
In Germany we have great routes to ride.
i've been practicing this not in panicky situations, but in normal situations so that i get used to gradually braking in curves in case i need it in a serious situation. it has helped me to understand my bike a lot more! so thanks!
Great video! I think that whole bit with you singing that tune "rollll off the gas and squeeezzze the breaks". If you can sing that tune in your head or even out loud to yourself, that'll help keep you slow and smooth. Thanks for sharing these golden nuggets.
NOW THAT WAS A GREAT VIDEO !!! I'm a life long rider (since 14yrs old) 10 yrs a bike instructor UK, IAM, DIAMOND, ROSPA, (Advanced instructor) and I'm saving this video to reccomend to trainees. I've learnt something myself today and that's not to doubt my instruction when telling trainees to do just what you've said. I've always said it's OK to use your brakes so long as your not fierce grabbing, being progressive, ease the squeeze and be gentle building pressure when you've entered a bit too hot. Over here in the UK you've just got to be REAL careful of the crappy roads and gravel in bends and this time of year (Autumn/fall) wet slimy leaves.
Wish I could ride those good roads and have the decent weather you guys have. Shiny side up bud ! 😉👍
Thank you so much, I love your mentality , totally makes sense. I recommend you to any biker I talk to. You’ve changed my riding experience. Thank you , Simon, in the UK
best video on cornering i have ever seen in my life, and I've watched twist of the wrist twice already.
Very good video especially for new riders. This is the #1 thing I try to warn my new riding buddies about. I've done it many times the panic freeze I call it but I've learned to correct it not fully freeze. You explain it perfectly.
Thank you for all the motorcycle riding tips and techniques. I applied it and it really helped me a lot especially in twisty roads.
Thank you Fast Eddie for helping me better understand Trail Braking. Excellent video and a keeper. 😊
Thanks for this. I crashed twice in my youth due to freezing on arrival at a corner too hot. After forty years I am back in the saddle and I still love it but I have the same issue. Now I have more tools to try!
Great info as always, the panic state of mind is a very real thing, Ive had the fortune of goin through it myself, luckly i had the sense not to grab brakes or chop the throttle but still scary. The one thing i noticed after the fact was that my eyes would focus on the on the guardrail or grass instead of the road, needless to say practice is everything and having the tools just like you said but along with the practicing braking its also good to practice fighting the urge to stare at the guard rail or mountain or dirt or whatever you might hit.
Hey Jitsu! Loved the Vid my weakest part of my riding is Cornering. I really appreciated your vid i have a Suzuki with Brilliant engine braking i always come off throttle but still need to improve my knowledge of braking. I once stamped on the rear and increased my stress momentarily, the effect shocked me ended up on the other side of the road. I was lucky it wasn't my turn but it scared the crap out me. I now practice emergency stopping which has helped me become much more proficient at braking when i need to in the turns. I really enjoyed your vid it helped a lot. Cheers Andy in the UK
Thanks for this video. Going riding with my son in the Smokey Mountains in a couple of weeks, he's a new rider and I haven't had the chance to ride with him yet as he's 5 hours away.
I forwarded your video to him. Thanks for this video. Very well explained, and much better than I can convey to him.
Thanks mate! As always very informative video. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼
My biggest problem when I first started riding was trusting the machine to be able to handle the turn. One time I had this exact scenario happen. I was coming off the freeway on an offramp and I was traveling too fast for my comfort level but I knew how to counter steer. In that situation I just had to force myself to trust the machine and implement what I learned in class. Would love to see a video about trusting the machine and what they can handle when it comes to lean angle.
You saved my life. I already know it. I’ve had a couple low sides and it’s always when I’m in a group. After those I’ve learned screw trying to stay up with friends. I don’t care what they say. “Bro we had to wait on you” “you slow af” “you ruined this road for us, we had to slow down for you” cool, don’t worry bout me, go as fast as you want. At the stop sign just stretch or something. I’ll be there at the end cause I’m not going well above my comfort zone. If I’m not there in 5 minutes then come look for me.
Like I said this video already saved my life from watching cause now I know what to do and what to go practice. I was bout to sell my bike and get something smaller or just quit. Not anymore. Now I know a way forward and something that will actually help. I’m staying on 2s and I’m not gonna be afraid to hit the twistys anymore. Going to practice right now. Thanks brother!
Absolutely fantastic video...thank you so much for your educated thoughts and tutelage...All riders old and new should watch this video over and over..Thanks so much !!!
I appreciate your videos and try to watch them at least once a week. Although I've been riding for over 40 years, my main goal is to unlearn some of the bad habits I've acquired during that time.
Thank you!
I've only been riding since July, and my brakes are my best friend. I'm not scared of them at all. I've had to brake hard before/into a corner because I was going too fast for my comfort. I've had to brake fast because the stop light changed to yellow and my husband was too far behind me to make it through the yellow and I didn't want to disband our little group. I've had to fast brake for deer, raccoons, squirrels etc. They are SO IMPORTANT. Learning to use them properly and often is such a potential life saving skill. Even as I knew rider I know the importance.
Keep on sharing your knowledge, thanks for what you do for the motorcycle community.