2 Miles Long, "Grown" Starship: The Universe Class
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- The Universe Class USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J was featured in one episode of Star Trek Enterprise as the flagship of the battle of Procyon V against the Sphere Builders. Starfleet designed and built this class in the 26th century and it plays host to a number of advanced technologies, let's take a look at what we know and can speculate on this starship.
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00:00 Intro
00:54 Real Origins
01:41 Altair Class
03:39 Universe Desgin
05:32 Specifications
09:55 Conclusion
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I do like the concept of a fed ship so far into the future that it's capabilities cannot be understood by the contemporary series characters. This ship is to them, what the Enterprise TOS is to us.
TOS to you, I grew up watching TOS and animated series
@@pbwc781ok mate well done
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Carl Sagan
@@vic5015I think that was Arthur C. Clarke.
Not really, it's just a horrible design with no practical application.
I love how starships are designed "aerodynamic" even though it's a space ship. The Borg just had cubes. LOL!
The lore reason for this is that when traveling at warp, ships pass through what are basically nets made of warp strands. The Federation's method of making ships like the galaxy class go faster despite resistance from these warp nets was to just push with more power. However, it was realized that doing so, especially at higher warp speeds, would sometimes snap those warp threads, and when that happened it would cause a massive chain reaction that would destroy the vessel involved and make warp travel completely impossible in the region. To prevent this, the Federation imposed warp speed limits in sensitive areas, and started designing ships with more elongated and streamlined frames so they could slip in between the warp threads rather than force through them. An example of this Intrepid Class ships, which had much more thin and elongated frames compared to earlier ships, this is also why Voyager's warp nacelles would fold up before going to warp. On the other hand, the Borg typically travel using transwarp hubs and transwarp drives, which are estimated to be at least 20x faster than the fasted Federation ships. Transwarp bypasses the warp threads and thus basically don't have size or shape limits on their ships, but it's also a much more rough journey that a normal warp field can't fully protect against for long, so aside from the Borg's love of symmetry in their pursuit of perfection, it also makes more sense to focus on geometric structural integrity when that is how you're getting around.
I hated the J…until I saw a universe class in STO. Seeing it in scale compared to the rest of the ships made the design work so much better for me
I'm good with the overall design; I just have two nitpicks: I don't like that the pylons extend through the nacelles a bit (looks childish and tacky) and I don't like that the registry and ship name are on the port and starboard sides of the saucer rather than forward facing, as it should be. Other than that, I think it's decent. Not the best looking ST ship I've ever seen, but certainly not the ugliest either.
@@Tantalus010 You know I gotta ask, what is the ugliest?
I’m guessing any one of the Frankenstein/Kitbash Fleet?
I was the same about seeing it in STO. I hated it when I saw it on the show. But seeing it in action, being able to feel the scale of it, the weight of its presence, the imposing figure... it really does feel like a mobile starbase. It somehow became my favorite design in the franchise, and in STO, I now proudly fly one on my main character. My I.S.S. Eschaton is not idly named. It feels and plays like the final boss of a mission or the Big Bad of a movie, and I've had people compliment that feel after slugging against it in PVP combat. It's just such a unit of a platform. It can be graceful and majestic, or seriously imposing, just by camera angle alone. It feels less like a ship, and more like a force of nature.
@@Tantalus010 agree on the nacelles, kinda tacky. Though the registry and name *are* forward facing on the saucer in addition to them being on the p/s.
I like the updated version where the hull is transparent, making the streets and parks visible. This ship is essentially a mobile colony.
This ship would look so cool in a canon show with its apartment buildings and shops with trees lining the streets. Like what they tried to do with interior shots of Babylon 5.
@@OOL-UV2i really want to see those rainforest starfleet ships on discovery in action
Updated version? Where
Roddenberry envisioned the Enterprise D as a mobile colony. thats why they had kids and families there. but they never really wrote much around that idea.
@@MICROKNIGHT3000it was done for the Roddenbery Archive, I think? But here's a video showing it:
ua-cam.com/video/iLI9DpX1UM4/v-deo.htmlsi=eqAFSwyiMswvddAT
I loved Babylon 5s shots like that. Especially the tram shot where the bomb blew up and you got to see how big the station actually was. It even made sense to me at the time for centrifugal gravity.
I actually really like this ship, for the reasons you point out - it's right on the edge of "not making sense", but not *beyond* that edge. It's what I'd expect from a Federation whose technology was just on the edge of singularity. So basically, like Iain M. Banks' "The Culture." I can imagine this ship arriving in a brand new galaxy, exploring, making peaceful contact with the civilizations there, serving as the spark of a grand renaissance in the native star-empires by showing them what it's possible for them to become... and then bidding them farewell and moving on, much like how the Enterprise of old visits a planet and then moves on at the end of the episode.
Initially I didn't like the "windows" on the ship. They were so hugely stretched and distorted that trying to imagine the rooms inside was weird. But then I decided they were probably all skylights - both the ones on the top *and* the bottom, since why have all the decks oriented the same way? Have the gravity flip at the midline of the saucer so both sides of it are the "top," that works fine.
The only remaining bit of the design that I don't care for is that the spike-like pylons poke *through* the hollow parts of the engine nacelles. I like to imagine that the hollow parts have some really intense spatial distortions going on in there when the ship's hauling ass, so I'd rather have the spikes not interfere with that. But eh. Perhaps the nacelles move around and that's just their sub-warp docking arrangement.
Shout out to The Culture! I sometimes imagined the largest vessels - the GSVs and GCUs - to not even have a hull; rather, their entire structure and interior is visible to space, with manifold shields and fields keeping everything in. Alternately, just an ovoid shape without clear features, such as in the cover of _Look To Windward._
I wonder what the Enterprise J would have called itself if it had a Culture Mind?
YES! I was thinking the exact same thing! It reminds me so much of the way Culture GSVs work in that they're piloted by god-tier AI who consider humans a curiosity and take care of their every need. To be honest, the Culture is a sci-fi universe I like even more than 'Trek and is the one I wish I lived in.
RIP Ian M Banks, long live the culture.
@@MyMarsham 'mostly harmless...' :)
@@johnneill9740 Nice one! I could just think of an ex-SC psychopath class calling itself that.
I love that in STO you participate in the battle that's happening outside the window in that Enterprise Episode. That entire arc of the game was just so good.
yes, it was quite a ride. :)
Though that mission in particular is a rat bastard in the space sections and rest of sto faire in the enterprise section.
i wonder if someone has managed to find that specific window of the ship that the shot takes place in
The Roddenberry Archive recently put out some more detailed concept art, where the ship shimmers and has clear sections revealing the internals to have skyscrapers and such, making the whole ship even more of a floating city.
I like the idea; reminds me of Mass Effect's Citadel, which this ship sort of is.
The Enterprise J captured my mind from the moment I saw it in "Enterprise". It is just so mysterious and evokes a certain kind of grace. I love how the secondary hull is inline with the saucer and the sweeping of the outlines.
Although it tends to be unpopular, I find the J’s design to be lovely and majestic. I would be fascinated to see its interior (beyond the humdrum corridor we saw in “Enterprise.”).
I used to think it was the worst desing, that now is the G for me. the Neo connie seems so uninspired.
@@residentmemberofhell - the G is definitely one of the uglier ones. Although the ugliest starship design by far, hands down is Discovery. The coolest design is DS9’s Defiant. The most gorgeous remains the TMP Enterprise refit.
Same... although they could have redesigned the warp nacelles
Looks like crap
The Sovereign and Constitution Refit are still the two nicest looking designs. The Odyssey is right up there too. I don't have a problem with the Neo Constitution. Just not a fan of them renaming the Titan-A the Enterprise-G.
Fell in love with this ship the first time I saw it on Enterprise. Just watching this video makes me want to hop on STO and take it out again. I wish they had given us more of an interior for it.
If you told me it had a sort of Wormhole Drive, point-to-point jump across most if not the whole Universe, I'd buy it.
Seems like a logical development point. If you warp space enough you do in theory create a wormhole. The only limitation would be generating enough power to achieve it.
Spore drive?
There would be crew members who would probably never meet on a ship that size. I already feel like that was implied on the Enterprise D with its size. I'm sure people met other crew members for the first time ever on Ten Forward
IRL, there are sailors serving on aircraft carriers who already experience this. When I served in the Navy, I remember hanging out with a couple of guys who served on the same carrier but hadn't realized it until we got talking about it. It doesn't surprise me that people serving on a ship the size of a small city would run into this problem, too.
@goldenknight578 yeah I feel like on the original Enterprise most crew probably eventually met on the 5 year mission under Pike and Kirk. Bit as each ship got bigger. There was alot less chance you'd know everyone even after 5 years.
The biodome version that has gone viral lately is also gorgeous.
I'd love to see it! I looked for an image but couldn't fine one. Anyone have a link?
given the implication of exploring the universe, i always assumed it was as big as it is and shaped the way it is, because the original intention might have been making a ship that could survive crossing the galactic barrier and make the intergalactic journey beyond as a generational ship.
The Universe class has grown on me the way the Galaxy has, I love the "flying city in space" and "generation ship" concepts, this one takes it a step further.
Here's hoping DSC makes some reference to this one.
Honestly, the J has never caught on with me. I always thought it just looked gawdy. But, I know, that's the point as many of the military aircraft and sea vessels used by the US military in service today I would have thought ridiculous looking back from the viewpoint of when I was a kid and the US navy were still using battleships.
I loved the concept art that had an entirely transparent hull, as if the saucer section was a mobile colony habitat.
The Roddenberry archive recently put out a video showing the evolution of the enterprise, the enterprise J is briefly seen, though it has undergone a slight redesign by Doug Drexler, and by slight I mean that the entire ship is now transparent, allowing you to see the metropolis inside.
Edit: it has been brought to my attention that Drexler did not contribute to the redesign. Not sure who did.
It reminded me of the Taelon Mothership from Earth Final Conflict
Was wondering if someone else was going to call that out, makes me wonder if the outer armour is retractable/deployable when needed - ua-cam.com/video/ETVSm2AmYjc/v-deo.html
@@lovipoekimo176 I’m not sure I’m a fan of the redesign, however I could look past it if it features a deployable armor system (like the kind voyager used in its season finally)
The redesign was not done by Drexler, in fact he commented on it in a video interview around the time of Picard Final Season. It was done without his knowledge and he reached out to the Roddenberry Archive about it.
@@FeeriiEekii interesting, I think they credit Drexler for the design in the video, perhaps they were referring to the original design, but only showed the redesign
I’d love to see your take on the Klingon and Romulan iterations of this era’s ships
Romulans are extinct at this point they merged back with the volcans
@@evos469 Do a google search for Valkis Temporal Heavy Dreadnought Warbird .
I agree with your assessment of this guy. It's honestly so big and so stupid that I've kinda looped back around to loving it. It's always fun when one of these cartoonishly large chonky bois pops up in your TFO.
Makes sense for a 'universe' class as there was a 'Galaxy' class
I guess...
The galaxy class was complimented by the similarily designed nebula class. Having a universe class pop up a few hundred years later is kinda weird.
Yes, some tiny city - sized ships for settlement building and space exploration are quite fantasy.
"2 miles long eh? It's a start...."
- Warhammer 40k
If it can be used to tell a great story and comment on the human condition, then I like it. Being a child of the 80's, I thought a normal computer was something big and irrelevant to my life, not something that I can hold in my hand and do it all, like my phone today. Maybe that's the point of the "J"....the future tech of Starfleet might seem weird and alien to Captain Archer.
Really, even 20 years ago I didn't think we'd have smartphones that make the communicators of TOS look quaint.
@@HylianFox3I did you should have been watching the Japanese back in the early 90s cell phones.
By 1998 I think it was the Japanese had video communications, shopping, ticket buying, as well as camera phones obviously.
The screens were not sophisticated but all the basics was already in place for adding a big screen and cleaning up the relative technologies and simplistic enough a child or elderly person could figure it out.
They had the tech 15 years before the US.
Honestly for me personally, the bigger the better for Star Fleet Ships design/looks.
Love the Universe-class, beautiful Vessel, awe inspiring! Love the quirks & features!
Thanks!
i adore this ship design , its so delicate . i love when they make bold decisions . the ring starship in discovery was stunning , same as most of those 32nd century starfleet ships
lol...maybe we'll meet in the 32nd century to build starfleets ships🥂
Regarding the possibly detatched nacelles... strictly speaking, they don't need to be attached to the ship at all. If they've each got their own warp cores to generate warp plasma for their respective coils, then whether they're attached to the rest of the ship or not is immaterial. They generate a warp bubble that wraps around the ship (connected or not) and then any trivial amount of momentum carries everything in that warp bubble forward. The warp nacelles were never "pushing" a starship forward, the whole region of space around the ship was "falling" forward. This is why we sometimes saw a ship "extend" its warp field around another ship and carry both at warp speeds, even though the ships weren't physically touching.
LOL, type 40 phasers! But jokes aside I really do find the Enterprise J truly original so it's great to see your analysis of its galaxy-spanning abilities. Just from your description of its quantum slipstream and transwarp drives; plus, its neural connection between crew and computer it sounds more like a Both Cube.
Wouldn't be surprised if the technology was inspired by the Borg also quite possibly the destruction of dilithium that could have happened in the far future.
Destruction of Dilithium . Yeah No Warp Drive any more .
I live for these. Have you ever thought of creating your own class of ship for a video?
Enterprise J is my favorite iteration of the ship by far. Beautiful design and it's nice to have a little more information on it.
I'm pretty sure Discovery said that whatever tech locks the nacelles in place is, _at least partly,_ based on magnetic forces. Or at least, they were critical enough to this functionality that the Discovery crew shutting off the electromagnets was enough to detach a nacelle at the end of season 3. I'm sure it's fancier than "just magnets" though, so who knows what other principles it's based on?
I think they were talking about the magnetic field constricting the "warp" plasma being used for propulsion.
With the ability to matter/energy transport, I doubt they need a physical connection so far into the future when we can deliver power wirelessly already.
Discovery is just a load of rubbish. Unwatchable
Whatever discovery said is moot because that entire show is stupid, an abomination, and should not be considered canon, or even simply exist. 🤷♂️
@@WuSEification 😂 so Discovery shouldn’t even be considered canon to Discovery, great argument bro 👍
@@Reinforce_Zwei oh that’s a good point, I didn’t think about that!
I loved J when I saw it in ST: ENT, my fascination with the design geometry and engineering aspects has grown since its inception.
I imagine that with it being so big despite having pocket dimension technology in that future timeline (was explored in another Enterprise episode), it was probably made as a mobile city for extremely long term deployments.
Another fun possibility with the design also explains the absurdly-thin saucer with overly-lit windows. This ship design and Kal Dano’s shuttle (Enterprise: “Future Tense”) were constructed near the same time, and that shuttle was bigger on the inside. It’s probable that the Universe class’ saucer was larger on the inside than the exterior implied, and the light coming through the windows appears “compressed” and therefore brighter. From the inside, it likely looked more like an ellipse than a flat saucer.
I'd honestly be interested in a federation ship built in the style of a UNSC ship. The pillar of autumn would be a scary prospect with impulse engines and phasers.
Great vid! Regarding making ones way through a ship of the Enterprise-J's size - as well as turbolifts I like to think that it would be equipped with those walk-through transporter arches like those seen outside Starfleet Command in S1 of Picard.
I know it's always difficult to compare ships from between different stories/franchises, but Ent J is roughly analogous to a GSV from Ian Banks' Culture series, in general terms of speed, mission profile, etc. It's quite a bit smaller, but it's right in line with a lighthugger from Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe (which does not include transporters, FTL, etc.)
A really neat hybrid.
It’s comforting to know that while technology may change, the Starfleet font remains the same. Also worth saying, the interior of the J is just as intriguing as the exterior design
They only had one printer that could print the identification on the ship.
Hey Rick. This is the first video of yours that I've watched, and I really enjoyed it. It stands out for its honesty - rather than just make up stuff, you admit what we don't know, and include the writer's reasons for those decisions. Great stuff!
Also, last I knew, the U.S. Navy was actually working to revert newer touch screens back to physical controls. There are some schools of thought that, even with the semi-tactile nature of LCARS, physical controls may never go away.
I especially never understood how on the shows they managed to use touchscreen controls at times without even looking at them. Unless your screen never changes it's going to be very difficult to memorize the positions especially if you can't feel for them.
@@jeffumbach Well, that in and of itself is somewhat believable. If it never changes that is, I could see it being like gaming. You reach a point where it's just muscle memory. And don't forget; within the deeper lore, the buttons aren't 100% flat. There IS a tactile element there.
Now doing so with a screen that changes, that's different.
Thank you Rick. Been waiting for this one.
I hope in the final season of Discovery, they'll find an old Universe Class that had been converted into a starbase.
There may be one in Andromeda which escaped the Burn
@@Academician100 That would be an interesting storyline, if they decided to pursue it.
What bout the VFX design recently shown in that video narrated by Jhon de lancie?
I remember seeing a much sleeker version of the J with a Glass disk and cities inside
P. S. Overall, that redesign looks far better imo
@@Vegetables578 Agreed.
I’ve been waiting & hoping for this one!
I remember speaking to Doug about this ship for an interview I did with him 2 years ago. He told me that the studio gave him less than 2 weeks to finish it.
thank you for your awesome videos 😌 I love watching them, it’s so cool to get even more information on all that is star trek in a podcast-ish form 😌 When I click on your videos I know I will be able to relax and enjoy. Thanks a lot ❤️🖖🏻
Such a radical and crazy design, that's why I love it. Thanks for much for this informative video!
I never liked the look of this ship in STO. Future tech or not. My first though when I saw it was "did something go wrong with the mesh of the model in the game engine?"
The universe class renderings with it having a transparent hull. Really gives the class a much better overall appearance.
These are really cool videos. I like them a lot, please keep them coming.
All starships should have served as hubs of other ships. The enterprise d was so huge it should have had dozens of support craft out exploring beyond just the main ship. Jump at high warp to New location and then send out the slower shuttles in all directions for a few days. Retrieve shuttles then move onto the next location
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Yeah nothing ever goes wrong with "Deep Brain VR". The Holodeck malfunctions on a semi-regular basis and nearly kills everyone in it on up to endangering the entire ship. Someone goes all "Tetsuo" (from "Akira") moment, while plugged into the ship's "Deep Brain VR" (see "The Lawnmower Man"), while being boosted to godlike levels like Lt. Barclay ("The Nth Degree") , with the safeties having failed or otherwise turned off, and proceeds to tear up the ship and/or mindr*p* everyone. Yeah this is a GREAT idea.
That Incredible Vessel of this Iconic Title my friends. Thanks.
Fantastic video, the whole aspect of looking at it and thinking..."heh?" Was what endeared me to the Univere class in the first place
Damn ship length 3,219m long. To put that in somewhat topical perspective, the Titanic wreck site is 3,800m deep. Also I always thought it wasn’t supposed to be much bigger than a Galaxy class. The size makes the design make WAY more sense. I love the idea of what scaling up federation design doctrine to the size of almost Super Star Destroyer scale would look like.
Wasn't the SSD ten miles long? I think it may have varied by source
This ship would definitely dwarf a standard SD
+8:55 I've always seen it as having a Co-Axial Warp Drive.
I like the newer images of it that show the city inside and that the hull can be made to be transparent (which looks really pretty)
I think it can generate energy from anywhere it likes and as such doesn't have Phasers as a discrete part unless they decide to give it one as optional gear (perhaps something self-powered or portable) Being 3K long it has more than enough space to carry or make anything it might ever need. so Shields, repairs, energy weapons and the like are likely the same system.
It has it's certain appeal. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the present always changes perhaps the future will as well.
Your video scratches an itch. I've always wanted to know more about the Universe class but I could never find any information.
Lovely graphics. Thanks.
Could you make a video of the Constitution class of the 32nd century?
If everything that was just mentioned with how the Universe Class operated would make it like the Starfleet version of a Borg Cube where the ship was controlled by the crews minds it was like what Riker said about the Borg cube 'This ship just thinks and does what it wants' and 'The Crew are using they're combined power to repair the ship'.
Makes sense as a number of newer Starfleet ships are augmented by Borg technology.
Yeah. Uh, no thank you...🤯☠️
Outstanding Star Ship!
A big ship that functions as a mobile base of operations for smaller ships (i.e. a mothership) makes sense to me for a super long range exploration vehicle. I didn't know about this ship, so thank you for the episode!
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
It would be a traveling city in space. I assume that many people would just prefer to live that way, traveling around the galaxy. Even within their own space, they could have a substantial amount of people living on such ships. I'm surprised that in the Next Generation's time that there weren't ships that large. There should have been large civilian spaceliners that transported people and goods around the federation (and there should have been many more of these than Starfleet vessels). I can't imagine most people hitching a ride on a Starfleet ship just to get somewhere.
Do any of the ST shows after 2003 show anything of civilian life in the Federation? Starfleet military and exploratory missions are not the only stories that Star Trek can tell of this delightful shared universe.
I think a universe-exploring vessel or task force leading ship should have large-scale manufacturing capability. If an auxiliary ship or craft is destroyed or the main ship needs extensive repairs, upgrades or refitting, what shipyards would be available to perform such necessary actions? The shipyards that originally built the Enterprise-J would be farther and farther away, so they would be useless for these eventualities.
Another likely issue with a universe exploratory task force, the Enterprise-J will eventually be too far away from the Federation that the colonists/shipmates will lose communication with their original civilizations. Their task force would pass into legend and maybe forgotten. Meanwhile, the E-J t/f could seed colonies on unclaimed or undiscovered worlds to extend the survivability of its diverse crew and to reduce the growing population on board. Humanity must travel into deep space and settle new worlds so we may survive the limitations of being trapped on only one world, in only one solar system. Our destiny as a race lies Out There.
The Enterprise-J and its essential task force could be contacted/visited by legimate Starfleet personnel centuries after leaving the Milky Way. What changes in culture, technology, politics, etc could both groups learn of each other? If the E-J was meant to continue exploring indefinitely, never returning to the Federation, how could a reasonable command structure exist between the increasingly separated groups?
I remember the first time I had ever seen the Altair Class was at the end of a video I saw in the history of the U.S.S. Enterprise and when I first saw the ship I initially thought it was a future Enterprise design.
i wonder if discovery will intruduce a new enterprise in the future
By that time it would either have to be an Enterprise X/Y/Z or AA
@@Vegetables578I'm hoping it's a brand new design instead of a Constitution-class (31st century)
@@Obiwan7100 i doubt the constitution would last for 600 years
@luke23478 Of course, it would probably be a variant of the Era, like a Constitution XI Class or whatever, kind of like how the Titan A is a Constitution III class. Also, the Voyager J is a 32nd century version of the Intrepid class, probably more inspired by the class of ship from hundreds of years before than anything.
Not saying they should go down that route.
Me too instead of introducing trans gay's and white male cucks....
I try to watch star trek because I love star trek and space but I hate this agenda they're pushing on us..... disgusting and sad.
Great design. I love it !!!
Can't wait to see her in action !!! 💥💥💥
Admittedly there was only a very small section of the interior shown on ST:Enterprise.
But that interior section and monitors gave me a DS9/Cardassian vibe.
Enterprise J will always be on my honorable mention list when discussing favorite Enterprises.
Thank you for breaking down this neat future ship to carry the name enterprise
A series set in the year 3000 or something like that would be amazing. The possibilities would be hard to imagine.
Well discovery is set in the 32nd century, but I feel it was a bit underwhelming. It felt just like the 24:th century in Star Trek, but with a few extra gadgets.
ugh, detached nacelles hurts my head
I'd love a reason why they decided to do that in the lore
@@Nx--7567 yea, but it's like saying the turbulance of a fast-moving blade stack in a turbomachine is preventing better flow efficiency.
Universe class. Beautiful!
I've always wondered just how big the Captain's yacht was. Maybe the size of TOS Enterprise? Yeesh.
With this literal "City Ship", it's probably as least as large as a 24th century Ambassador class...😳
Now that’s a big ass ship. I definitely want to see it sometime in some form.
It's a flying starbase. Do they have Dyson Spheres at this point in the future?
If ever a ship needed a revamp and touch up it is the Universe Class.
It's energy draining ability sounds like a step towards the cultures effectors. Being able to remote effect things rather directly rather than through weaponry.
I've heard the term 'gravitic lance' before, in Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga series. First appears in The Vor Game, published in 1990. Gravitic lances were described as a "five-space/three-space interface phenomenon."
That ship is an eyesore of epic proportions.
Crime not to highlight the roddenberry foundation version of this ship, with the transparent hull and cityscape inside. It's a perfect "future vessel" design that imo does "far future" even better than the 32c designs from discovery.
I do like the look of it it looks fast even when it's stopped
I love it, it honestly looks like Lamborghini of starships and I would love for an show to follow it. Sadly I don't think we'll ever see it again.
As far as consoles go, if their minds are linked to the computer then Augmented Reality would be the best. Also extremely secure as any intruders wouldn't see consoles anywhere, only the crew can see them.
The dart boards by the main viewer are a nice touch. Can also be used to make decisions too!
I would love to see a saucer sep.
Everything about this ship just screams the idea of us (the audience) as a child looking up to a parent or a figure with more experience than us, with knowledge beyond our current understanding, and the ultimate parent form of discipline: "Sit down, shut up, you're in a timeout". XD
Please let a new series feature it in that era. It's beautiful.
Thank you for talking about the J ahe needs to remain a mystery i like her design traveling to different galaxies she looks like she could too
I love that technologies on the Enterprise-J were basically a first step to what would be common in the 32nd century, similar how the Enterprise NX-01 had technologies in their infancy that would be common and more advanced by the 24th century.
Hopefully, some day, we'll have a series set in the 26th century so we can see these predecessors of 32nd century tech.
I have long wanted to see a Star Trek show from the time when they have timetravel technology, perhaps on a ship similar to the Relativity from Voyager. I don't understand why they keep going backwards just to mess up what is considered canon.
The one thing about the Universe Class is that Discovery - like it or not, it IS canon and in the Prime Timeline - confirmed that there is a Galactic Barrier and how it works. It also confirmed that Discovery is the first ship to actually get beyond it without the help of beings like the Q or the Traveler. So unless the Universe class' experience beyond the galaxy has been lost to history by the 31st Century, it stays here.
I think it's a badass ship and it should be explored more
Amazing Subtitles by the way
amaizing!
I love this design. ❤
I have always loved the J ever since I first saw it in enterprise. I've always been interested in what it was capable of both exploratory and combat wise. IIRC, the phasers on the J are called the Infinity modulator array. I've always been fond of the gravimetric lance on it. Being the twenty-sixth century, we can only assume that the J carries chroniton torpedoes and some kind of advanced quantum. Maybe with the start of transcendental technologies embedded within the ship. Most likely had either a temporal Shield grid or multiphasic shield array. The armor on the outside that was grown would act as a permanent deployable armor which would regenerate rather quickly as it is organic metalloid. If the universe class was meant for exploring other galaxies in this universe, it most likely would have some kind of singularity generator or controlled wormhole drive or something similar. Either way you are correct in assuming that in order to travel that long of a distance you would have to pull into account higher dimensional superstring theory, which could relate back to any kind of technology. I do wish the universe class was explored more upon, and hopefully wherever we get to the launch of the Enterprise J in the twenty-sixth century, because we are very close to that launch, that's they go more in-depth on the technology in it. I also hope that the writers modern Trek decide to keep the j as the J and not make it some other ship, because knowing the modern era that's exactly what they're going to do. Enterprise J, Constitution V class lol
This beast is both familiar and "different" and not in a bad way, looks as sleek as hell, wish we get a longer view, in Canon, not too far off.
The potential of "site-to-site Transporters" reminds me of "Atlantis" in Stargate.
The potential of the Crew being "Mentally linked" to some of the Ship's Systems as well as the draining of Hostile Vessels Shields is reminiscent of the Borg. But the Concept of the Universe Class is intriguing, and the lineage/history fascinating. Thank you
Thanks for mentioning the Congo Class, I really wish they'd gone with that design instead!
Oh hey! It does exist! I saw a photo of this in Barnes and nobles almost 20 years ago and I think about it on occasion!
I always thought this ship looked ultra-cool
Same. I've never understood the hate for this ship. It's probably in my top 5 Federation starship designs.
I always thought this ship would have something different going on inside based on the original design, a folded space interior, gravity plating directing the floor towards the centre of the circle, so the windows were on the walls and therefore a lot more room than it would seem. The transparent version is a cool idea, but a folded space carrier/spacedock which could have hundreds of galaxy class sized ships inside would be quite a spectacle.
This is a very interesting ship that implies a very interesting era for the federation. I’m sure many of the seams you can see are phaser strips given the scale, or whatever weapons the federation is using. I remember a breakdown made by a fan. It has phasers, disruptors, phased polaron energy weapons, as well as photon, quantum, tricobalt, transphasic, and chroniton torpedoes covering all angles. It basically has the firepower of a starbase and then some. Probably did have type 20 phasers and hybrid disruptors for more punch. The energy dampeners is a funny addition that really is just “sit down, and stay”
It might have a futuristic disruptor (for added heavy firepower), but it would probably have NONE of those other weapons. It's the fallacy of trying to add all kinds of current era weapons to it, when those weapons would have been INCREDIBLY obsolete by the time it was seen in canon. Phasers literally took over from the previous generation of starship weaponry for Starfleet ships within 100 - 200 years, so having those kinds of weapons around something like several 100 years into the future makes no sense. Evolutions of those weapons, or brand new weaponry based on concepts borrowed from those weapons would make FAR more sense, like how quantum torpedoes borrows a little bit from photon torpedoes, but is built to combat a specific threat and exploit a specific weakness.
@@sigmacademy right some heavy disruptors for ship to ship combat but phasers for prediction strikes to disabled systems and versatility is a predictable combo, and a small mix of munitions is probable but I think photons would remain the bulk, with quantum filling a heavy hitting role, since they are more expensive to make.
actually I think the idea of the material extending in subspace so that it appears that sections are not attached would be a cooler explanation why some of the ships had seemingly disconnected nacelles, maybe that there were emitters that needed to be in different subspace dimensions so either to make more effective warp fields or allow better scanning of the subspace to better calculate the shape of the warp field.