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  • @tommythetreat000
    @tommythetreat000 4 роки тому +4918

    So this is basically The Last Dance episode 11.

    • @sleao_
      @sleao_ 4 роки тому +95

      exactly what I was thinking. and it came out a year before TLD

    • @DJJEZ
      @DJJEZ 4 роки тому +10

      Definitely

    • @havelthedeadinside1799
      @havelthedeadinside1799 4 роки тому +75

      The true final episode. The episode we deserved an explanation from Jordan and the team themselves.

    • @rhizoidx
      @rhizoidx 4 роки тому +12

      More or less. Without any MJ / SP / DR interviews.

    • @supa250
      @supa250 4 роки тому +10

      More like episode -1...a prequel or spinoff of sorts...

  • @fhantasm
    @fhantasm 5 років тому +5522

    Steve Kerr is still enjoying greatness. What a life this guy's been living.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +295

      he did win 4 rings in a row and while I think that bulls team was pretty trash outside of mj by 98 they were still good enough to win around him and thats all that matters....phil was a great coach and pippen was a good 2nd star who could do all the little things without having to worry about scoring

    • @kvngirvng9475
      @kvngirvng9475 5 років тому +330

      And now hes winning rings as a head coach

    • @thegreekdeal4747
      @thegreekdeal4747 5 років тому +129

      I mean hes probly a good coach but none of these gsw rings was hard fought. The first they won by default. The other 2 they owe to kd.

    • @vie3147
      @vie3147 5 років тому +17

      Pelvis Wrestley exept he destroyed KD's career by pressuring him into playing.

    • @kinglazyone1
      @kinglazyone1 5 років тому +134

      @@vie3147 fake news kd just came out and said it was his decision

  • @youtubecommenter37
    @youtubecommenter37 4 роки тому +1569

    Michael Jordan isn’t a once in a generation talent. He’s a once in 10 generations talent. You don’t rebuild by pissing off that kind of player and making him leave

    • @dustman820
      @dustman820 4 роки тому +75

      @a 1999 had a lockout meaning less games. That would have helped the Bulls playing less games. They would have a had a good chance in my opinion.

    • @whosaidthat84
      @whosaidthat84 4 роки тому +7

      @a probably not but the Bulls didn't have to collapse as hard as they did. Jordan could have been a star over the next few years and they could have made better trades and draft picks

    • @logicaldude3611
      @logicaldude3611 3 роки тому +41

      @@dustman820 Yeah, with only 50 games that would have helped them at their age. A weak Knicks team ended up going to the Finals so I definitely think the Bulls could have won in 1999 if everyone stayed.

    • @davidjackson9680
      @davidjackson9680 3 роки тому +7

      @@logicaldude3611 they probably weren’t gonna beat those Spurs without Phil

    • @davidjackson9680
      @davidjackson9680 3 роки тому +1

      @@logicaldude3611 cause bottom line the players might stay but there’s no universe where Phil does

  • @roma5869
    @roma5869 5 років тому +4172

    As a Bulls fan, this is therapy.

    • @onesonofjacob
      @onesonofjacob 5 років тому +80

      All we could do is pray that we get Ja

    • @KingKratos79
      @KingKratos79 5 років тому +7

      FACTS

    • @scattau41
      @scattau41 5 років тому +22

      I was waiting for them to mention Kirk but I guess not

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 5 років тому +26

      ELTON BRAND AND RON ARTEST: Let em go for nothing
      2004 DRAFT: Pick#3 Ben Gordon over Luol Deng, Shaun Livingston, Andre Iguodala, Al Jefferson, J.R. Smith, Josh Smith, Dorell Wright, Jameer Nelson, Tony Allen and Kevin Martin.
      Then their second round pick, Jackson Vroman, was picked ahead of Trevor Ariza. I doubt anyone even knows who Vroman is. I sure don't, but I'm a Lakers fan, so maybe Bulls guys will remember him. I do remember Gordon. Lol

    • @perseverance1st4
      @perseverance1st4 5 років тому +3

      I swear you’re absolutely right

  • @unownunown1530
    @unownunown1530 4 роки тому +2337

    Jerry Krause: Players and Coaches dont win Championships, organizations win championships
    Bulls with MJ & Phil: 6 Rings
    Bulls without MJ & Phil: 0 Rings

    • @dantehaskell5688
      @dantehaskell5688 4 роки тому +196

      unown unown jerry was great at scouting and drafting but should of shut up and payed pippin and kept Jordan

    • @unownunown1530
      @unownunown1530 4 роки тому +82

      @@dantehaskell5688 i mean i dont blame jerry for what happened directly after the 97-98 season but for a guy that talks that big hes done a terrible job at rebuilding with the exception of the couple years with drose in which its obviously not his fault that drose got injured. after that its still been years and the bulls have gotten progressively worse every season.

    • @dantehaskell5688
      @dantehaskell5688 4 роки тому +47

      @@unownunown1530 ill give him that he did build that team but to piss every single one of them off was a bad thing and then underpay not one but both stars and faces of your franchise ya he deserved it

    • @keres9580
      @keres9580 4 роки тому +1

      You don’t know that

    • @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
      @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly 4 роки тому +2

      How many ri gs has my won as an executive

  • @TheDude4077
    @TheDude4077 4 роки тому +303

    The thing about Jerry Krause is that he did two truly historic things in his career, and he deserves full credit for both of them, and you can never mention one without the other. The first thing he did was put together the greatest basketball team (and perfectly complimentary coaching staff) of all time. The second thing he did was destroy the greatest basketball team of all time. No Jerry = no 6 rings, but also no Jerry after '98 = no collapse. It's a complicated legacy, as great ones often are

    • @OsmosisJones93
      @OsmosisJones93 2 роки тому +12

      I agree, it also could be argued that the better organizations now, are run because of the success Krause had, and avoiding the mistakes. I think the Warriors, Meyers, and Kerr are a result of the success he had, hell even the Bucks have top tier management.

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th 2 роки тому +19

      The great thing about Jerry Krause was he never bowed down to Michael Jordan the same way Rob Palinka bows down to LeBron. If Krause would’ve let Jordan run the team he would’ve never traded away Oakley for Cartwright, he would’ve never gotten rid of Doug Collins and hire Phil Jackson, he would’ve never drafted Kukoc and would’ve gotten Sam Perkins instead. If he would’ve let Jordan run the team he probably would’ve gotten just 1 or 2 championships and a whole bunch of MVP awards. But he wouldn’t have gotten 6 championships

    • @night6724
      @night6724 Рік тому +17

      @@dariog36th yeah but at the same time he didn’t need to burn the bridge with Phil Jackson. Even if he convinced the bulls to come back for one more year. At the least Scottie could’ve been the veteran leader to transition out of the Jordan Era

    • @mr.sidecomments9278
      @mr.sidecomments9278 Рік тому +8

      @@dariog36th looking at the decisions MJ did as the owner of the Bobcats/Hornets, you're damn right!

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 Рік тому +2

      @@dariog36th but oakley was a MUCH MUCH better player than cartwright like its not even close. Also Perkins was just as good as kukoc lmao

  • @cedrictorryii3227
    @cedrictorryii3227 5 років тому +929

    As a Chicago born and raised native , this is going to hurt me to watch ..
    But I have to watch it ..

    • @Mr420OG99
      @Mr420OG99 5 років тому +8

      Same it hurts me but I like these videos

    • @SerlingPictures
      @SerlingPictures 5 років тому +33

      Yeah man. I have no clue what it must be like to root for a extraordinarily suckful franchise. Can you shed some light on that for me?

    • @CHEDDAakaSWAY
      @CHEDDAakaSWAY 5 років тому +4

      @@SerlingPictures 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm done

    • @odizz2k11
      @odizz2k11 5 років тому

      Cedric Torry II as a bulls fan born and raised in Vegas I feel your pain

    • @kevinzhu6417
      @kevinzhu6417 5 років тому +8

      itll feel so much better once your team starts winning. those years of bargnani made the playoffs much more important to me as a raptors fan 😂

  • @alexanderthegreat3
    @alexanderthegreat3 5 років тому +226

    Very simple the Bulls ownership weakness showed. they aren't ruthless and they aren't demanding for success.
    MJ drove the franchise to be a winning one

  • @CallMeKmrn
    @CallMeKmrn 3 роки тому +1625

    bro really got rid of the greatest player ever, greatest coach ever, greatest rebounder ever, greatest perimeter defender ever, and one of the greatest shooters ever because of his ego

    • @rovaughncampbell3062
      @rovaughncampbell3062 2 роки тому +49

      Pure madness

    • @heatherphillips5983
      @heatherphillips5983 2 роки тому +209

      @Kings Will Soon Rise They were, but I'm sure we can all agree, they could've won one more.

    • @choiceda5920
      @choiceda5920 2 роки тому +46

      He also put it all together like no other GM could. He gets too much flack.

    • @VictorELayne77
      @VictorELayne77 2 роки тому +52

      @Mike Wicklund “You either die a hero…” fits perfectly.

    • @dionr1168
      @dionr1168 2 роки тому +60

      If nothing else, Krause's actions helped build dynasties in San Antonio and Los Angeles.

  • @007Julie
    @007Julie 4 роки тому +603

    Krause thought he could just build another Bulls dynasty like he did starting in 1984, he was cocky enough to think, hey I could find another MJ and Phil around the corner and get them for pennies. It was disgusting what he did to the team and the city of Chicago.

    • @michaelburke5907
      @michaelburke5907 4 роки тому +33

      I agree. The Bulls and Bears organizations were the same bullshit. Cheap, ungrateful, petty, conservative, and stupid.

    • @roachtingz9061
      @roachtingz9061 4 роки тому +32

      eduar ed was bout to like your comment before i realized parts of your brain is missing for thinking women can’t comprehend basketball🥴✌🏾

    • @muningninghehe4473
      @muningninghehe4473 4 роки тому +1

      and to Pippins

    • @dableelziee4203
      @dableelziee4203 4 роки тому +9

      Krause had plans. The radio heads in Chicago at the time were constantly talking to him about his plan B. Now the bulls must be on Plan Z, running out time. LOL.

    • @whyusothirstybro
      @whyusothirstybro 4 роки тому +8

      eduar ed They built a foundation when they drafted Jordan. How you gonna argue when you don’t understand that concept while also not speaking English correctly? Stay your ass over the other side of the wall and stick to soccer while you’re at it

  • @stevenbcarter5811
    @stevenbcarter5811 5 років тому +667

    I used to blame Krause for the demise because it was so no-brainer to give MJ what he wanted...but in retrospect, owner Reinsdorf is really the one who blew it here...for whatever reason, he let MJ walk even though he and MJ had a great relationship...baffling

    • @js-xl8et
      @js-xl8et 4 роки тому +60

      I always heard that Jordan wanted some stake in the team but Reinsdorf didn't want him to have any

    • @Turk_2023
      @Turk_2023 4 роки тому +70

      @@js-xl8et That`s greedy. Give MJ 1% just for appreciation

    • @Charlieneumann04
      @Charlieneumann04 4 роки тому +103

      Now Jordan is richer than Reinsdorf despite being shorthanded for many years playing with the Bulls.

    • @Turk_2023
      @Turk_2023 4 роки тому +19

      ​@@Charlieneumann04 Dosen`t Jerry still own the Bulls and Whit Soxx? If the clippers sold for 4 billion , The Bulls could get probably 8 by now....

    • @changethegamenetwork1196
      @changethegamenetwork1196 4 роки тому +10

      Steven B Carter he wasn’t interested in winning and David Stern was really in control of the Bulls during Jordan time there because he was cheating for Jordan and marketing the league under him

  • @burnindownthehouse
    @burnindownthehouse 4 роки тому +70

    I was at that game the Bulls scored a record setting low 49 points. And check this out- that was the ONLY Bulls game I ever went to. A scalper before the game tried to sell the seat to me for $200. I was like, "Come on, man. Jordan isn't even on the Bulls anymore. I'll give you $50." He accepted. Little did I know the game would turn out to be worth fifty cents.

    • @alexrivera633
      @alexrivera633 6 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn’t have even gone to a bulls game that didn’t have Jordan Pippen or even Rodman

  • @Laf92
    @Laf92 5 років тому +993

    They lost lost Jordan Pippen and Rodman in one week!!!!

    • @DevinEMILE
      @DevinEMILE 4 роки тому +131

      longhorns13192 Rodman was let go due to the fact Jordan and Phil were the reason he came to the team. Krause didn’t like him. So with Jordan and Phil gone Krause had no reason for him to be there. Pippin wanted more money, which he deserved, but Krause didn’t want Pippen around. Jordan hated Krause

    • @Jesse-zc5pg
      @Jesse-zc5pg 4 роки тому +10

      Pippen

    • @vicrattlehead6386
      @vicrattlehead6386 4 роки тому +63

      Yes, Pippin went to middle Earth.

    • @TatayNiElias
      @TatayNiElias 4 роки тому +9

      Good thing Pippin kept Merry and Sam. Lost Frodo tho.

    • @josepharmstrong1531
      @josepharmstrong1531 4 роки тому +2

      @@DevinEMILE also, Rodman was physically broken and would barely play in his final 2 NBA seasons.

  • @WMB6022
    @WMB6022 4 роки тому +123

    Krause actions reminds me of a quote:
    "Temper gets you into trouble. Pride keeps your there"

  • @RGS86
    @RGS86 3 роки тому +60

    I really appreciate Seth calling them the "mighty" Utah Jazz. Those Jazz teams were so good and it adds to the greatness of Jordan that he was able to beat such an excellent team, not once, but Twice!

  • @rjaybee5870
    @rjaybee5870 5 років тому +644

    The Bulls 97-98 season was dubbed the "last dance" even well before the end of the regular season that year.

    • @maryakopyan3224
      @maryakopyan3224 5 років тому +40

      Cause of managements' ego.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +26

      you can replace harper kerr kukoc Longley rodman pippen...what you couldn't replace was phil and mj...@@maryakopyan3224

    • @lilin3005
      @lilin3005 5 років тому +74

      @@razkable You can't really replace pippen though

    • @johnchakkour
      @johnchakkour 5 років тому +10

      Asmosis Jones can’t replace pippen

    • @jordanwillett8456
      @jordanwillett8456 5 років тому +10

      @@lilin3005
      Yeah you could replace him 10 times before you could replace MJ

  • @nicholas.alan85
    @nicholas.alan85 2 роки тому +38

    Having grew up and watched almost every bulls game from 1990-1999 this video almost brought me to tears. I lived out in the loop of Chicago and the Bulls were a way of life. After 1998, there wasn't even a chance to celebrate the second three-peat.. the walls came crashing down in a literal planned demolition. All within a week or so. This brought back some buried wounds that never fully healed.

  • @mikeydlad00
    @mikeydlad00 4 роки тому +3687

    who’s here after the bulls doc ending to see how jerry messed it up

    • @reesebiggz2246
      @reesebiggz2246 4 роки тому +39

      Lmao man that's crazy

    • @FroggyORTIZ
      @FroggyORTIZ 4 роки тому +7

      Yessir

    • @living2liveagain1
      @living2liveagain1 4 роки тому +5

      Everybody!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Great QUESTION!!!!

    • @jakeg6219
      @jakeg6219 4 роки тому +2

      Had to

    • @mournblank
      @mournblank 4 роки тому +53

      The ending was perfect. Bulls ends with MJ and that should be it.

  • @mynochrancher
    @mynochrancher 5 років тому +195

    He should have said how in the 99 season, the starting lineups didn't announce them as "Your WORLD CHAMPION, Chicago Bulls! but just "Your Chicago Bulls!"

  • @Alart28
    @Alart28 5 років тому +1009

    The only man who could stop Jordan from winning more rings, Jerry Krause.

    • @jayvionwilliams4061
      @jayvionwilliams4061 5 років тому +11

      Alan Kent Larry Bird did. Nique did, Sidney Moncrief

    • @AHMAD-2324
      @AHMAD-2324 5 років тому +39

      @@jayvionwilliams4061 Well Nique never beat MJ in a playoff series Bulls swept Hawks in '93 3-0 MJ avg. 39.8ppg 7.4rpg 6.7apg 2.7spg on 54% Bird beat him wit 5 HOF player's when MJ second best player was Dave Corzine. And Sydney Moncrife beat him as rookie in '85 3-1 but Sydney's Bucks swept Bird an those 5 HOF player's the year before. So I guess that makes Sydney Moncrife better than Bird...

    • @edmerc92
      @edmerc92 5 років тому +21

      The Bad Boy Pistons beat them three years running.

    • @DruMUSIC06
      @DruMUSIC06 5 років тому +4

      @@jayvionwilliams4061 I see you've googled well but not well enough.

    • @cammac66
      @cammac66 5 років тому +3

      @@jayvionwilliams4061 respond idiot. Fcking post millenials

  • @steviemcqueen3227
    @steviemcqueen3227 4 роки тому +189

    Steve Kerr has 8 championships ( 5 as a player ( 2 when he played for San Antonio, 3 when he played for Chicago & 3 as coach of Golden State)

    • @Sai4651
      @Sai4651 4 роки тому +26

      Phil Jackson had 11 as a coach, tying himself with Bill Russell for most championship rings.

    • @samilles472
      @samilles472 4 роки тому +56

      @@Sai4651 Phil Jackson has 13 rings. 11 as a coach and 2 as a player on the Knicks.

    • @Abandonsoyciety
      @Abandonsoyciety 4 роки тому +15

      @@samilles472 I cant imagine Phil jackson on a court tbh

    • @samilles472
      @samilles472 4 роки тому +1

      @a He came back to the Lakers and won in 2009 and 2010. After 3 peating from 2000-2002. Add the 6 from the Bulls and 2 from the Knicks and you get 13.

    • @robertacosta6633
      @robertacosta6633 2 роки тому +1

      And Hall of Famer at that too

  • @tguy0720
    @tguy0720 5 років тому +320

    Dig into the beef of Krause and Jackson for Beef History!

    • @tonyroca279
      @tonyroca279 5 років тому +10

      Yeah, that would be a much better one than the ordinary beefs.

  • @redmustangredmustang
    @redmustangredmustang 3 роки тому +106

    It's amazing how Phil Jackson and MJ held EVERYTHING together and once those two were gone, the Bulls fell apart and we all knew that it was coming.

  • @ClivesEnglishCorner
    @ClivesEnglishCorner 4 роки тому +1309

    Dude, why do ESPN still even exist? Lol, UA-camrs are doing an even better job than them.

    • @koomjorge
      @koomjorge 4 роки тому +11

      Clive's English Corner facts

    • @WaltersBacon
      @WaltersBacon 4 роки тому +70

      I mean someone has to bring politics into sports🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @bokstar030
      @bokstar030 4 роки тому +7

      More like ,sports stations have politics too thats why they cant flame anyone just by factd

    • @CovfefeDotard
      @CovfefeDotard 4 роки тому +6

      Because a lot of people watch espn a lot more than some UA-cam person

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 4 роки тому +10

      @@WaltersBacon damnit Disney and their constant agenda pushing

  • @MrE_
    @MrE_ 5 років тому +1452

    Bulls haven't been relavent since D. Rose went down with injuries

    • @SocratesSodiumJr
      @SocratesSodiumJr 5 років тому +90

      As a bulls fan, I couldn't agree more

    • @DuuKem
      @DuuKem 5 років тому +172

      I’m still amazed that they had butler, wade, rondo, and some very good role players, and were still awful

    • @fortyforfree
      @fortyforfree 5 років тому +1

      Luke Essinger rondo has two good games. Wade was missing that playoff series and was a just as a diva as jimmy butler.

    • @bobbob-iv4we
      @bobbob-iv4we 5 років тому +13

      yea. the bulls were one lebron signing away from another dynasty

    • @knodeway1826
      @knodeway1826 5 років тому +9

      Mr.E what about when they went up 2-0 on the one seeded Celtics?

  • @ellandecampbell6279
    @ellandecampbell6279 5 років тому +1668

    The short version: Krause was pissy & wanted the credit that MJ & Phil were receiving

    • @shorty1103
      @shorty1103 5 років тому +145

      Bingo. Ego & fight for power always destroy organizations

    • @carlosa7598
      @carlosa7598 5 років тому +23

      @@shorty1103 as a Spurs fan, I couldnt agree more.😄

    • @cdplaya1973
      @cdplaya1973 5 років тому +81

      MJ nor Phil weren't appreciated by the management or ownership

    • @johncate9541
      @johncate9541 5 років тому +71

      I've always thought his mistake was the same one a lot of other guys made--Krause let MJ get in his head. MJ dissed him every chance he got, even when he was still playing. Krause was so determined to build a winner after Jordan left that he made hasty, ill-advised decisions. What happened with Fizer and Williams was bad luck, but just about everyone else he picked did well. He just wasn't patient.
      Krause got Executive of the Year twice. His peers gave him his share of the credit. I don't know what he thought he had to prove, anyway.

    • @FilmPassionprod
      @FilmPassionprod 5 років тому +34

      It's also on Reinsdorf, he's sticking with the wrong people which also includes GarPax today. He should've defended Jackson because the Bulls were making him alot of money than the White Sox despite them playing decent finishing second but never any playoff appearances from '95-'99. If you're the owner of a multiple championship team what would/should you do to protect you're investments? It's not so much we need a new front office, I think we need a new owner! And I think Reinsdorf doesnt even give two shits about the Bulls and even mentioned he favored the 2005 White Sox over the Dynasty Bulls. Plus the Sox are not doing any better either, no playoffs since 2008, a rebuild that doesnt even compare with the Cubs, and an empty stadium that only fills for the crosstown classic. And he's probably desperate trying to make money such as hosting the all-star game. In the 25-26 years the UC has opened, he never wanted to host it but all of a sudden, he's allowing one?

  • @76JStucki
    @76JStucki 4 роки тому +1541

    They didn't "self-destruct." Krause destroyed them.

    • @phantomcosmonaut9127
      @phantomcosmonaut9127 4 роки тому +41

      I guess you can say Krause self destructed

    • @rickr.3558
      @rickr.3558 4 роки тому +97

      Krause just couldn't accept that players and coaches get the majority of the glory when a championship is won. He deserves credit for putting pieces in place but he is the primary reason the bulls were largely irrelevant for years after Jordan, Pippen and Jackson were gone.

    • @dominicbrogsdale3348
      @dominicbrogsdale3348 4 роки тому +30

      @@rickr.3558 heard he had little man issues and insecure I wonder if he was a hater! why would you dis mantel a team like that!!

    • @gabee3993
      @gabee3993 4 роки тому +9

      98 bulls were on fumes... they werent going to win 4 straight

    • @dannybarcenas9701
      @dannybarcenas9701 4 роки тому

      Talkin' bout sabotage

  • @PavelBarber
    @PavelBarber 4 роки тому +308

    This was fantastic

    • @Mavkor
      @Mavkor 4 роки тому +4

      Mr Handles likes basketball? damn respect pav

    • @wesmccauley5622
      @wesmccauley5622 4 роки тому +3

      Hello pavel.

  • @MrKing8050
    @MrKing8050 5 років тому +548

    That Jordan game winner at Utah was the perfect way to end a dynasty

    • @razkable
      @razkable 5 років тому +29

      bulls since that shot have made 1 east finals won 5 playoff series total...its pretty sad ….they were on top of the world with mj from 87- 93 95-98.... but before and after nothing

    • @usteeler81
      @usteeler81 5 років тому +20

      @@razkable and that's why I actually argue that the Chicago Bulls are one of, if not the most overrated franchises in the NBA. Without MJ and the others that team is garbage.

    • @ExistentHope
      @ExistentHope 5 років тому +21

      @@usteeler81 it's interesting to point out that the Bulls had no true success other than Michael Jordan's age.

    • @alex-ur3vp
      @alex-ur3vp 5 років тому +11

      usteeler81 yeah i suppose you're right!!! without Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc and basically everyone who made that team great, the team is garbage!! great observation!!!!!!!!!

    • @bigfundamental1096
      @bigfundamental1096 5 років тому +4

      @@alex-ur3vp fact bro even when d.rose is healthy the team is not that good

  • @feedthesnake3394
    @feedthesnake3394 4 роки тому +121

    this video is so good, they made a 10 episode prequel on netflix.

  • @AlfredoPuente8
    @AlfredoPuente8 5 років тому +568

    After Bugs Bunny, the bulls weren't the same.

    • @kennethwilkinson2095
      @kennethwilkinson2095 4 роки тому +8

      Cant beat internet humour.
      Have a good day, keep it up lol

    • @bmore4lyfe316
      @bmore4lyfe316 4 роки тому +3

      Lmaoo 😂😂

    • @trentonnewman9683
      @trentonnewman9683 4 роки тому +21

      I mean ever since Jordan forgot how to stretch his arm like that he was never the same player

    • @richardlloyd2589
      @richardlloyd2589 3 роки тому +1

      Obligatory, “That’s all folks!”

    • @slammyadams529
      @slammyadams529 3 роки тому +7

      after space jam they had a 3 peat and a 72-10 record

  • @princemjbp695
    @princemjbp695 4 роки тому +137

    Jerry Krause wants a rebuild over a championship, and now Chicago is still rebuilding 22 years later 😂

    • @DionysusAlS
      @DionysusAlS 2 роки тому +5

      And Krause is taking a dirt nap.

    • @wills.9422
      @wills.9422 2 роки тому +5

      They only won bcuz Pippen was severely underpaid. There’s no way you can actually ever do that again.

    • @Fife_knight
      @Fife_knight 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@wills.9422pippen was stupid, they asked him to take a shorter deal compared to the 7 year 18 million dollar deal and he said no only to complain about being underpaid

  • @Wolf_3125
    @Wolf_3125 3 роки тому +38

    It's crazy that at the same time that the Bulls dynasty ended, in the NFL, the 49ers dynasty came to an end due to the team being over the salary cap and being forced to release key players and Steve Young's injury while Elway led the Broncos to 2 superbowl titles before retiring.

    • @azuredusk991
      @azuredusk991 Рік тому +2

      Mostly because of Eddie j debartolo sold the team and by the third championship bill Walsh was already gone

  • @danielplainview2360
    @danielplainview2360 5 років тому +574

    The Bulls as an organization only became relevant because they lucked out drafting the greatest player in the history of the NBA. They where a VERY bad organization before MJ and have been after his retirement. Jerry Krause took too much credit for that dynasty.

    • @SupGarry
      @SupGarry 5 років тому +44

      after mj there were good times with D.Rose but after that they became as irrelevant as post mj era

    • @collinscott1052
      @collinscott1052 5 років тому +6

      ICUP Nibba I get what you’re saying but you didn’t get a prime Wade and saying you almost got someone doesn’t mean much, that’s what the knicks have been saying and it hasn’t helped the team

    • @drlight6677
      @drlight6677 5 років тому +57

      Krause made a lot of great draft picks and signings DURING the MJ Bulls era though. Drafting Polynice and trading him in one of the biggest steals ever for Pippen, brilliantly drafting Grant at #10, Armstrong at #18 and Kukoc at freakin' #29 (during the 90's the Bulls would never go below #20 in the draft order until 1999). Signing bargain bin effective role players in Paxson, Longley, Kerr, Buechler, and Brown. And signing Harper and Rodman to create one of the best defensive and rebounding squads of all time. Krause was a genius GM until 1999 happened when he decided to kill the dynasty and destroy his legacy.

    • @aboriginalbrotha9947
      @aboriginalbrotha9947 4 роки тому +8

      Actually, the Bulls were pretty competitive before they had Jordan. They made the playoffs during their first year in the league, and stay competitive pretty much until Reggie Theus's final two years there. They almost made the Finals in 1975, and they were known for their aggressive style of ball. They had Jerry Sloan, Bob Love, Van Lier, etc in their first ten year period. They were thinking about drafting Magic Johnson in 1979. The only reason Jordan was drafted by the Bulls because Reggie Theus went to the Kings. If Magic got drafted and helped Theus, Jordan would've gotten drafted by a team like the Mavs. He would've went to the Bulls later on after things fell off in Dallas.

    • @RB-mb1ul
      @RB-mb1ul 4 роки тому +24

      @@drlight6677 Krause had just as many draft blunders during that era as well. He drafted Keith Lee at 11 in 1985...over Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, and Terry Porter. He drafted Brad Sellers at 9 in 1986 over guys like Salley, Rodman, Mark Price and Dell Curry. In 1988 he took Will Perdue at 11 over Majerle, Harvey Grant, and Rod Strickland. In 1989 he had 3 first rounders including #6. He took Stacey King, BJ, and Jeff Sanders. He passed on Tim Hardaway, Shawn Kemp, Mookie Blaylock, Nick Anderson, Vlade Divac, and Cliff Robinson. He could have had an all-star with all 3 picks and built a championship caliber team without Jordan using that draft alone.

  • @brianfarrell1808
    @brianfarrell1808 5 років тому +400

    This is my new favorite series, well except anything with Jon Bois

    • @onesonofjacob
      @onesonofjacob 5 років тому +15

      I like Rewinder as well

    • @Shakshuka69
      @Shakshuka69 5 років тому +10

      1. Anything Jon Bois
      2. Anything Seth about Basketball
      3. Everything else

    • @dasfowler
      @dasfowler 5 років тому +9

      Jon Bois is just two raccoons in a trench coat.

    • @Shakshuka69
      @Shakshuka69 5 років тому +2

      @@dasfowler *ALLEGEDLY*

    • @dasfowler
      @dasfowler 5 років тому +1

      @@Shakshuka69 OPEN YOUR EYES.

  • @CJ-tx3tm
    @CJ-tx3tm 4 роки тому +513

    Anyone else come here immediately after finishing the Last Dance?

  • @Romax-pg2is
    @Romax-pg2is 5 років тому +4577

    How the Cleveland Cavaliers collapsed twice after Lebron left

    • @Arsenal347
      @Arsenal347 5 років тому +38

      Romax 24245 Big Facts

    • @Legionaairre
      @Legionaairre 5 років тому +362

      That story's still being written

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 5 років тому +134

      Both of those situations were a house of cards waiting to come down

    • @wyomingptt
      @wyomingptt 5 років тому +300

      You had a team(s) completely built around one player, when that player leaves what do expect to happen.

    • @dubois2.024
      @dubois2.024 5 років тому +2

      Aren't they in the playoffs right now though?

  • @TrustySteeringWheelTray
    @TrustySteeringWheelTray 4 роки тому +119

    The Bulls are still collapsing, 20+ years after Jordan left!!!

    • @GinoNL
      @GinoNL 4 роки тому +3

      MP 81,16,18 CATS this is equal to how society has changed. Individualism.

    • @andreingramakadjscrewrip7372
      @andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 4 роки тому +1

      @@GinoNL Y'all are spouting InDiVidUalISm like it's a bad thing

    • @scgamer
      @scgamer 4 роки тому +4

      Not the 2011 bulls

    • @pedroaugustocosta2533
      @pedroaugustocosta2533 4 роки тому +2

      @@scgamer and it's cost D.Rose knees, the Jerry Krause's curse is that badly

    • @skyh2394
      @skyh2394 Рік тому

      @@scgamerstill 0 rings. Fck, not even a finals appearance.

  • @LordCroker
    @LordCroker 4 роки тому +55

    As shitty as the collapse was, it's poetic that the dynasty wasn't ended by another team on court, they destroyed themselves off the court. Sad but a fitting end to the greatest NBA team is history

    • @laurocoman
      @laurocoman 2 роки тому +3

      It's also mesmerizing how quickly the image of he team was separated from the image of the players. Without Pippen, MJ and Rodman, people quickly went "these are not the Bulls". And these have been the Bulls for 20 years.

  • @boomerdwayne5427
    @boomerdwayne5427 5 років тому +626

    The Bulls owed the basketball gods a huge debt they're still paying for with interest

    • @simple45679
      @simple45679 4 роки тому +74

      @@chillvibes375 6 rings from 2 three-peats is better than "I'm the greatest player of all time" after winning one ring.

    • @oscarbenitah4718
      @oscarbenitah4718 4 роки тому +1

      LMAO

    • @toveychow3635
      @toveychow3635 4 роки тому +12

      Blaze up no. They destroyed a 3 peat championship and forced goat retired. That’s the debts

    • @lexydaniel3497
      @lexydaniel3497 4 роки тому +11

      Yo...don't mess with the black JESUS.

    • @Ghostkiller__166
      @Ghostkiller__166 4 роки тому +2

      @@simple45679 literally has nothing to with the conversation

  • @nintendostyle3500
    @nintendostyle3500 4 роки тому +17

    5:51 “And the rest of the bulls roster? Pfffffffft-“Commercial. What a good place for an ad lol

  • @Imac7065
    @Imac7065 4 роки тому +24

    A story you guys should look into... Anthony Carter's agent forgetting to submit his clients papers to exercise his player option after the 2002-03 season. That single action had a domino effect that changed the history of the Lakers, Clippers, the Heat, and the NBA as a whole. The effect of that one mistake let the Heat sign Elton Brand (clippers matched) which led to Lamar Odom, which lead to Shaq, which lead to a Heat title, which lead to a Heat rebuild that spawned the Labron / Bosh / Wade era. Fascinating story if you do a deep dive on it. One mistake by a dumb agent lead to 3 NBA titles and a 4 year dynasty.

    • @Imac7065
      @Imac7065 2 роки тому

      @OneLuckyWriter Ironically Carter is now a Heat assistant coach

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 5 років тому +289

    What are you talking about? The 1999 Bulls are one of the greatest basketball teams of all time. They were so good that they managed to score less than 50 points in the shot clock era. It takes a lot of talent.

    • @lucascongdon309
      @lucascongdon309 5 років тому +9

      Anthony Kernich Wilt averaged 50 points a game in ‘62 season

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 5 років тому +5

      with no 3 point line

    • @geraldespinosa7888
      @geraldespinosa7888 5 років тому +29

      not gonna lie you had us in the first half

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 5 років тому +2

      @@geraldespinosa7888 Us???

    • @geraldespinosa7888
      @geraldespinosa7888 5 років тому +6

      @@jp3813 why not? lmao im sure im not the only one

  • @mournblank
    @mournblank 4 роки тому +74

    I love how you raise the graph when Krause resigns. It totally represents the overall situation of this video.
    This proves that an organization alone cannot do well without coach and players.
    p.s.: This should be the spinoff of The Last Dance's episode :)

  • @dannyc.9161
    @dannyc.9161 4 роки тому +1938

    Who’s here after the first two episodes of ‘The Last Dance’?

  • @danielquiroga2376
    @danielquiroga2376 5 років тому +825

    Can you do a video on the 2011 mavs championship run?

    • @AverageRonin
      @AverageRonin 5 років тому +21

      No please I cant take it...

    • @skyrimosity7842
      @skyrimosity7842 5 років тому +79

      Great idea, especially with Dirk retiring. Plenty of material there.

    • @christianrey574
      @christianrey574 5 років тому +13

      A Rewinder segment would best fit for that

    • @penaltyflag366
      @penaltyflag366 5 років тому +4

      Smh they should do a collapse cuz they couldn't even resign tyson chandler

    • @SentrySeventeen
      @SentrySeventeen 5 років тому +24

      Mark Cuban let everyone walk in Free Agency and drafted Shane Larkin over the Greek Freak.... the end.

  • @williamherman9065
    @williamherman9065 3 роки тому +28

    I am the world's biggest Michael Jordan fan, I will just get that out there. I grew up in Chicago, and in the Western Suburbs of Chicago. He was my hero as a younger kid, and I never stopped watching him all through high school and into college.
    What has always bugged me about how most people talk about Michael's Career is how the seem to just glance over how INSANE it is for an athlete to LEAVE HIS SPORT for a full 18 months, play and train for a completely different sport during that time, come back and within 16 months begin a 2nd Three-Peat!!!!
    And he did this when he was in his Mid- to-Late 30s and at a time while the NBA was getting younger and so much Talent was coming in!
    What he did is nothing short of Legendary!!!

  • @logicaldude3611
    @logicaldude3611 3 роки тому +13

    It became very clear, very fast that Jordan, Pippen, and Jackson were what kept the Bulls afloat for the decade. Everything revolved around them. Without those three guys, the Bulls front office had absolutely no clue what to do.

  • @JonahJojoTheMan
    @JonahJojoTheMan 4 роки тому +5

    Of course, it's sad to see how the Bulls crumbled so fast after winning their 6th title. But on the other hand it is impossible not to be thankful for the luck of having experienced this.
    I became a fan of the Bulls in 88 and saw the team lose to the Pistons, but growing year after year until they won the 1st trophy in 91 and all the trophies won afterwards.
    And it was so good. It was extraordinary to live those moments and be part of the story when it was happening. I still remember the feeling at the end of the campaign each year between 1988 and 1998 as if it were yesterday. And the film Last Dance helped me to recover these memories and to be moved by many of them.
    Despite everything, I am still very grateful to Jerry Krause and Reinsdorf for building that team. And Jordan, Pippen, Phil and everyone else for having given me so much joy.
    At the end of the film, I got emotional again, because I knew that it was a wonderful time in my life and the Bulls were part of it. Today I continue to support the team, but everything has changed and I know that there will be no other team like that to make me so happy.

  • @THEDonnyB
    @THEDonnyB 4 роки тому +4

    This is one of my favorite series on youtube. It's like nonstop information from a water hose that dives deep into the behind the scenes of each team. Love it guys. Keep up the good work.

  • @Mrjordan8
    @Mrjordan8 2 роки тому +2

    PIston fan here but i was living in Chicago for those last three championships and all the bulls fans just kept saying "let jordan and pippen leave....we're a dynasty franchise and Krause will keep it going"....i just smiled....

  • @aok2075
    @aok2075 5 років тому +823

    "How Manchester United fell apart after the departure of Alex Ferguson."

    • @aris_mendez
      @aris_mendez 4 роки тому +23

      AOK and now Real Madrid after Ronaldo leaving. 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @gilangrizqy7778
      @gilangrizqy7778 4 роки тому +62

      @@aris_mendez they're not as bad as United after Fergie's era man, I mean yeah Real had some turbulence after Cristiano & Zidane left, but still they're recovering better than United

    • @aris_mendez
      @aris_mendez 4 роки тому +4

      gilang rizqy yeah I agree on the recovery part. They’ve made some decent signings.

    • @guyfieri2173
      @guyfieri2173 4 роки тому +23

      @@gilangrizqy7778 Too recent to judge Real Madrid imo, plus they haven't finished in a bad position domestically tbh (3rd might be bad for Madrid's standards, but 7th and 6th for United is pretty abysmal)

    • @qistan
      @qistan 4 роки тому +10

      well yes, but actually no, after bruno fernandes came to MU, i hope him, rashford, and martial could win that pl trophy

  • @JC42023
    @JC42023 5 років тому +10

    As a Bulls fan, one of the teams biggest and most recurring problems is giving up too easily. In the 2014-15 season, they had a pretty stellar lineup (including a mostly healthy D. Rose) and seemed poised to make it to the finals before LeBron and the Cavs got in their way. Then of course, Tom Thibodeau was let go, and the Bulls ultimately missed the playoffs the next year. The team started the 2016-17 year with Jimmy Butler still dominating, and even Dwayne Wade playing well in spite of his age, and they returned to the postseason, despite losing in six to the Celtics. Most teams would've seen this as a positive step and tried to build off it; GarPax, however, decided to completely give up, nuke the team, and start over from scratch, which brings us to the frustrating last couple seasons we've had, and the couple more that are almost a certainty. Yeah the 2019 draft went surprisingly well for the team (especially after how devastated everyone was at landing only the seventh spot), but that seventh title we could've--and should've--won over the last decade is still years away.

  • @rudyflores5540
    @rudyflores5540 4 роки тому +350

    The bulls biggest opponent wasn’t any nba team, it was Jerry Krause

    • @iamnotyourbuddyGUY
      @iamnotyourbuddyGUY 4 роки тому +7

      Rudy’s Reviews but with out Jerry those teams would be like the wizards teams

    • @julesbadguy5878
      @julesbadguy5878 4 роки тому +2

      They ended up worse with him lol

    • @josecarranza7555
      @josecarranza7555 4 роки тому +4

      Dumb. Jerry Krause created the team in the first place.

    • @that_chem_guy
      @that_chem_guy 3 роки тому +2

      @@josecarranza7555 he also developed a sore spot in his soul over the fact that he got little to no credit. Dude was a genius when it came to assembling a team, but he couldn't get out of his own way to keep them together. If he could have checked his ego, they could have gone on longer. He deserves all the credit for putting it together, but he also deserves a lot of blame for tearing them apart

    • @hallo-xg8qh
      @hallo-xg8qh 3 роки тому

      @@josecarranza7555 and destructed it too

  • @DemonDriver31
    @DemonDriver31 5 років тому +46

    If you watch the demise of the bulls on espn. It will greatly go into detail how the organization had problems going all the way back to 1984.

  • @bizboy9508
    @bizboy9508 5 років тому +244

    How the suns collapsed from a nba finalist, to a playoff contender, to one of the worst teams

    • @maryakopyan3224
      @maryakopyan3224 5 років тому +1

      But Suns never won anything.

    • @jacksonbear1
      @jacksonbear1 5 років тому +35

      Mary Akopyan They also wasted a Prime Steve Nash

    • @petiteexplication6249
      @petiteexplication6249 5 років тому +21

      They made the WCF so many times and were robbed

    • @94mac
      @94mac 5 років тому +2

      Petite Explication yea in the mid 00s I remember those runs , they had a great fast offense

    • @eggs904
      @eggs904 5 років тому +4

      and they're also wasting Devin booker

  • @BrandanTheBroker
    @BrandanTheBroker 5 років тому +29

    I didn't get this breakup back in the day neither, like damn how did we go from champs to chumps in 6 months 🤦‍♂️

  • @harrisonlee9585
    @harrisonlee9585 5 років тому +375

    Given that Mother's Day is next month, can we get a rewinder about Stephen Piscotty hitting a homer after his mom passed?

    • @Ben_the_Rosafan
      @Ben_the_Rosafan 5 років тому +41

      Or Dallas Braden's perfect game with his mom in attendance?

    • @grrizzzy7
      @grrizzzy7 5 років тому +2

      No

    • @rockavenger7729
      @rockavenger7729 5 років тому +5

      Nobody cares about baseball its not the 70s anymore

    • @Tropicalfire
      @Tropicalfire 5 років тому +12

      Rock Avenger actually a lot of people do.

    • @steezyroger1681
      @steezyroger1681 5 років тому +1

      Tropicalfire yes a lot of people actually do I watch a lot of soccer but basketball,football, and baseball for me are so amusing to watch

  • @crimsonking440
    @crimsonking440 4 роки тому +77

    "Jordans gone? QUICK GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER GOOD PLAYERS!"

    • @dantehaskell5688
      @dantehaskell5688 4 роки тому +9

      crimsonking440 pippin was gone regardless he was underpaid and annoyed with jerry

    • @dantehaskell5688
      @dantehaskell5688 4 роки тому +1

      @El Patrón my auto correct that's why XD also some country have it spelled with an i not an e

  • @anthonyjoseph125
    @anthonyjoseph125 5 років тому +13

    I love collapse so much! Please make more of these!

  • @vee1766
    @vee1766 4 роки тому +183

    People today don't truly realize how great Scottie Pippen was and how crazy it was to have Jordan and Pippen in the same team. Basically imagine if 4 years after LeBron was drafted, Cleveland traded for Kevin Durant in the 2007 draft. Imagine LeBron and KD dominating the league for years.

    • @mybleusmybleus3012
      @mybleusmybleus3012 2 роки тому +2

      Not in Jordan's era.. maybe in this weak ass era...

    • @jakecarterart
      @jakecarterart 2 роки тому +8

      Do you mean ... like LeBron and Kyrie?

    • @nikkisixx29
      @nikkisixx29 2 роки тому +15

      U comparing pippin to KD? Lol

    • @goldstandard818
      @goldstandard818 2 роки тому +25

      this guy thinks Pippen is as good as KD

    • @wills.9422
      @wills.9422 2 роки тому +6

      Then imagine KD signing a 10 year for $80million deal total lol and the GM refusing to pay him more lol .. imagine the depth you could around them. “Bulls of the 90s”

  • @DaDitka
    @DaDitka 3 роки тому +7

    To say that this was a volatile era in Bull' basketball is definitely true. I remember this time, and the overall "peace" among the players was much greater during the first three championships than the last three.
    Maybe this is why the last three are a little more impressive? To be able to pull off win totals with a team "chemistry" like what they had during the last three is pretty remarkable. I don't know, I'm not an expert and I don't know that much about basketball.

  • @eitan-mermelstein3409
    @eitan-mermelstein3409 5 років тому +406

    Start a new series doing the opposite of collapse; rebuild

    • @nakahili539
      @nakahili539 5 років тому +37

      Eitan- Mermelstein i think the thing is the story of the rebuild is always told but no one tries to remember the collapse

    • @DuuKem
      @DuuKem 5 років тому +8

      Look at the astros and 76ers, the story is already there

    • @bobbob-iv4we
      @bobbob-iv4we 5 років тому +4

      Luke Essinger the 76ers havent actually done anything yet (and will not be able to do anything unless they get better)

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 5 років тому +13

      @@bobbob-iv4we are you dumb? They went from a bottom feeder team to championship contender in the course of 5 years

    • @ralphganitnit7346
      @ralphganitnit7346 5 років тому +14

      @@brianbadonde9251 championship contender? Maybe eastern confernce finals contender but definetely not a championship contender, YET. They have a great squad, but they haven't gotten anywhere yet. They don't have the playoff experience yet to get past the raptors or celtics, and they don't have the team chemistry of the bucks. Don't get me wrong, the 76ers have most of the talent to win a chip, but until ben simmons learns how to shoot the basketball and they get some more experience, the most they will get is a eastern conference finals birth. But once again, they aren't there YET, keyword 'yet'. However, yes they have gone far from being one of the worst teams in the leauge to a legit eastern conference powerhouse.

  • @Simeautomatic100
    @Simeautomatic100 5 років тому +211

    I heard some the bulls players in the early 2000s used to come to the games high af & go gambling afterwords.

    • @Primathys
      @Primathys 5 років тому +64

      That’s probably players from every team other than San Antonio

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 5 років тому +6

      @@Primathys why San Antonio? They're human too

    • @oliverjones1845
      @oliverjones1845 5 років тому +23

      The hawks in the 90s were notorious for nightlife antics

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 5 років тому +5

      @@Trust-Yourself-1st doesn't matter, they're adult men, they can't be controlled completely

    • @alvinjohnson215
      @alvinjohnson215 5 років тому +67

      @@brianbadonde9251 Nah the spurs as a whole look like a team that would go home and read a book by the fire after winning a championship.

  • @aldyrasyid
    @aldyrasyid 4 роки тому +11

    I feel sympathy for Bulls fans because I know what it feels like to see your team suck for years but there's nothing more satisfying than seeing an arrogant snob being proven wrong. Jerry Krause absolutely deserves all of this.

  • @hopes_in_hearts
    @hopes_in_hearts 4 роки тому +22

    The D Rose era was projected to be a Dynasty in the mid 10s. I just hope the other Universe Me got to enjoy it

    • @J69user
      @J69user Рік тому +1

      I’ll agree with you on the D Rose era. We almost had a 20 year anniversary of the first Championship and made the Conference Finals. Imagine if we beat the Heat in 2010-2011. Everyone said what a great way to honor the dream team by starting another dynasty. Somewhere in another universe the Bulls would be celebrating the berth of a new dynasty by beating the Dallas Mavericks.

  • @alexvratsanos5227
    @alexvratsanos5227 4 роки тому +25

    This wasn’t a collapse, this was an IMPLOSION!

    • @alexvratsanos5227
      @alexvratsanos5227 4 роки тому +1

      Come to think of it, it was even worse than the Marlins’ the previous year (see ua-cam.com/video/NkOtndaStzo/v-deo.html)... they lost exactly 2/3 of their games, but these Bulls lost nearly 3/4!

  • @lttfan9185
    @lttfan9185 4 роки тому +7

    For the entirety of his career with the Bulls, Jerry Krause resented Jordan, and later Jackson's celebrity and the credit they got for the Bulls' success. He can claim he was misquoted all he wants, but it's clear he felt he was underappreciated and his driving desire was to show the world that he could build a winner without Jordan and Jackson, and that it was the organization HE built that was great. He retired without generating another winning SEASON. We'll never know what Jordan and Jackson could have accomplished without Krause, but we know exactly what Krause accomplished without Mike and Phil.

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 Рік тому

      It takes a secure leader to be above resentment. Krause certainly lacked that attribute. But had he been more selfless and secure, he would have been comfortable with all the attention his staff had been getting - and he'd also be aware of how much respect and attention was already coming his way, he was one of the more respected GMs of his day. People just couldn't stand his lousy interpersonal skill, but they couldn't question he was the best architect of the game in his day.

  • @RiqueG478
    @RiqueG478 4 роки тому +71

    After watching the First 4 episodes of The Last Dance, I realize that Jerry Krause ruined the Bulls after the 98 season.

  • @bujang3022
    @bujang3022 4 роки тому +75

    "The bulls sunk deep and as fast as any champion ever has."
    2019 GSW: "Here, hold my beer"

    • @dosescopetastengo6581
      @dosescopetastengo6581 4 роки тому +6

      What do you expect? Without Klay and Steph....

    • @magneto44
      @magneto44 4 роки тому +15

      difference is they didn’t lose their best players forever

    • @guodade2239
      @guodade2239 4 роки тому +1

      @@magneto44 I have assumed more like the 1996-97 Spurs when went a flattering 20-62 in a very weak division after losing David Robinson, and then won the draft lottery to Tim Duncan.

    • @thebasketballfan6248
      @thebasketballfan6248 3 роки тому +1

      It will be interesting to see how the Warriors do in the 2021-2022 season

    • @shooter7a
      @shooter7a 3 роки тому

      Jabu....fast forward to 2021. Warriors have the best record in the NBA. Again. And look like a favorite for the title.

  • @joeybox0rox649
    @joeybox0rox649 4 роки тому +2

    I was there during those great Bulls years. Coincidentally, I moved to Arizona after the '98 season.
    I miss that team and reminisce often on UA-cam.

  • @izycool4444
    @izycool4444 4 роки тому +21

    It’s almost always the upper management that gets greedy or loses its composure. Dan Gilbert & the Cavs. Al Davis & Marcus Allen. Am I missing somebody else?

  • @ccricers
    @ccricers 4 роки тому +10

    Very ironic to have such a good defense in the '98 finals where the Jazz scored only 54 points one game, at the time being the lowest score since the shot clock, only for the Bulls to score even lower next season.

  • @mariahlin5556
    @mariahlin5556 4 роки тому +18

    Jerry Krause is a perfect example how management needs to adapt and improve over time too.
    He was blinded by his past achievements, failed to tweak his management style. He was important for the Bull's rise as a dynasty, but he was a key reason for their epic fail afterwards too. Calling out Jordan/Pippen in public or even forcing the team to blow up after 1998 was a crazy move. Indirectly forcing the best player in the game to leave was nuts.

  • @GeneralBulldog54
    @GeneralBulldog54 5 років тому +5

    The one thing I heard constantly from free agents that spurned the Bulls, they got rid of the greatest coach, greatest player, greatest wingman and greatest rebounder of all time for scraps and a boost to their GM's ego (seriously you should see his banner induction, a thunderous parade of boos would be an understatement). Since then, there had been misses and close calls of players originally heading to Chicago but seemingly out of the blue it never happened. They nearly got Kobe Bryant and couldn't close the deal.

  • @Jaqen-HGhar
    @Jaqen-HGhar 5 років тому +40

    You should do a video on the collapse of the Dallas Cowboys after the 1995 Super Bowl Championship....oof that one is gonna hurt, please make sure to stick it to Jerrah.

  • @whips8
    @whips8 6 місяців тому +4

    The Bulls collapse in 1999 is the biggest downfall of all time. Went from being a dynasty with the GOAT to a completely garbage team instantly.

  • @EE-in2uv
    @EE-in2uv 4 роки тому +73

    Imagine if they didn’t break up, could had a 4-peat in 99’ then possibly playing against 00’ Lakers in the finals omgggggg

    • @js2613
      @js2613 4 роки тому +27

      The Lakers would not have been there because Phil would still be on the bulls

    • @EE-in2uv
      @EE-in2uv 4 роки тому +10

      J S I know but even if Phil wasn’t there I feel like they could still make the finals. Shaq was so dominant and Kobe was hungry

    • @Sai4651
      @Sai4651 4 роки тому +8

      Something that would have been crazy is if Dennis Rodman played for just one more year with the Lakers. If he had, he would have gotten another ring with Kobe and Shaq. I always forget that those 3 played together during the shortened lockout season.

    • @Sai4651
      @Sai4651 4 роки тому

      Alex Kanyima who? Dennis?

    • @tonibrook720
      @tonibrook720 3 роки тому

      It would be the Spurs in the final guys

  • @lonelychameleon3595
    @lonelychameleon3595 5 років тому +56

    The Dallas Cowboys after 1996

    • @FredyVergara
      @FredyVergara 4 роки тому +2

      Lonely Chameleon Jerry jones and jerry krause ! Damn Jerrys🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @garyfartsk8123
      @garyfartsk8123 4 роки тому +1

      Lonely Chameleon as a cowboys fan it’s rough, when you have a owner who doesn’t know what he’s doing except for marketing, atleast we had a good draft this year I just hope he allows mike McCarthy to do his job.

  • @unkn0wnilusi0n
    @unkn0wnilusi0n 4 роки тому +3

    Perfect follow up to finishing the last dance

  • @edmondlau511
    @edmondlau511 5 років тому +9

    Although the Bulls were quite old, I think if they returned everyone in '98-'99 and bolstered their lineup with some power forward and point guard help, they would've won it because of the shortened season. The shortened season would've been beneficial to those older legs. Rodman wasn't as effective as he was but he was also 37 when they won in '98. The aging back court also had trouble with the smaller, quicker point guards. Randy Brown was an offensive liability and Kerr wasn't very quick for a guard. No doubt they would've made it out of the east but facing Duncan and Robinson in the finals would've been tough without some front court help. But Krause had such an ego. He insisted on riding on the team bus with the coach and players; they roasted him for it, it was so bad they called him Crumbs and made fun of him to his face. He couldn't just put the pieces together for the coaches and players to win, he had to insist on getting credit and being seen in public.

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Рік тому

      With 50 game season Bulls could have had plenty rest and might made finals qgain

    • @inaijik
      @inaijik Рік тому

      with lockout seasons there are times where there are back to back to back games lol, a lockout season would be a disadvantage for the Bulls

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor 5 років тому +6

    Jerry Krouse draft and scouted many great champion caliber players throughout the early 2000s...for other teams.

  • @hamzathekid5817
    @hamzathekid5817 4 роки тому +13

    22yrs later still rebuilding !!!

  • @uttermanbo
    @uttermanbo Рік тому +3

    The Bulls without Jordan were never gonna win another title. Why the Bulls didn't try to run it back when Jordan was still willing is beyond me. Krause really was petty here. The Bulls haven't been really all that close again. Hard to believe it's been almost 25 years.

  • @VisorX17
    @VisorX17 4 роки тому +184

    Who’s here after watching the first 4 episodes of the last dance?

    • @DevinEMILE
      @DevinEMILE 4 роки тому +2

      VisorX17 how did Krause keep his job. He took a team that at the time might have been one of the greatest team of all times, a team that might have won another ring. And destroyed them for his ego.

    • @solitary2
      @solitary2 4 роки тому

      Devin Poli He wasn’t getting respect on his name. Lmao

    • @CallMeDeeWee
      @CallMeDeeWee 4 роки тому

      Devin Poli Because he made the team that won 6 rings

    • @DevinEMILE
      @DevinEMILE 4 роки тому

      @@CallMeDeeWee But would that team have won the rings without jordan, or even if he had allowed Phil to stay and everyone had stayed for 99, they may have been able to have a four peat. Krause didn't handle things the way he should have with such a great team. Along with jordan and pippen acting the way they were was also not the right thing to do, But when your the GOAT things tend to slide.

    • @waynee5603
      @waynee5603 4 роки тому +1

      Best sports documentary series ever.....I miss that NBA era. I'm not a present day NBA hater, but the late 80s through the 90s was my childhood / early adulthood. Brings back good memories :)

  • @theengineer9910
    @theengineer9910 4 роки тому +1

    i aint even a big basketball fan and the documentary made me love MJ and the bulls, this is great to watch after the doc but im sad i finished the doc cause i could watch them all day i gotta rewatch it at some point

  • @juanantoniocastillo952
    @juanantoniocastillo952 4 роки тому +6

    Really good Review. A year later we have The Last Dance, and how its going in deeper of what happened that last year. How anyone could think they can get a better team with out Phil Jackson and Jordan. Insane!

  • @rajrawat5023
    @rajrawat5023 5 років тому +122

    Please to a rewind video on Brazil vs Germany in the semis of the 2014 world cup

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 5 років тому +21

      @bongo155 Because it was in Brazil and Germany crushed them in front of their homeland's biggest fans. I mean absolutely dismantled them in historically bad fashion.

    • @edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972
      @edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972 5 років тому +1

      @@kvltizt If that's the case then the Robben penalty should be reviewed first, it goes better with the format.

    • @kvltizt
      @kvltizt 5 років тому +2

      @@edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972 Oh, I have no issue there. I'm an American, we are a relative laughing stock and missed the last WC while in CONCACAF.

    • @realin8313
      @realin8313 5 років тому

      No one wants to go back to that execution

    • @bobbob-iv4we
      @bobbob-iv4we 5 років тому

      that game sucked

  • @jesnyc146
    @jesnyc146 4 роки тому +2

    Krause did what no player, NBA team or my beloved Knicks could NOT do.
    End Jordan's rule and the Bulls dynasty.
    I'll never understand winning championships and having the two best players and thinking...."yeah, this needs fixing"....just crazy

  • @juliancaesar4575
    @juliancaesar4575 4 роки тому +3

    The huge problem with it all, is we will never know how far MJ’s bulls would have gone...nothing to say they could have won another 5 if everyone was happy and on the same level. It angers me when boardroom decisions are the reason for a team collapse and not the players or coaches themselves. It’s actually a very tragic kinda story. Still, Bulls have left an ever lasting legacy and not many teams can say they are truly a worldwide name like the Bulls were.

  • @donnelladams340
    @donnelladams340 5 років тому +7

    I don't want to speak ill of the dead , but Jerry krause proved that he couldn't just make another Jordan and pippen.

  • @yohgan7848
    @yohgan7848 4 роки тому +2

    The Last Dance reminded me of something. brought me back here. I love SB Nation

  • @MrWoodMan23
    @MrWoodMan23 4 роки тому +25

    There would have never been a way to replace Jordan and Jackson. Ever.

    • @GeneralBulldog54
      @GeneralBulldog54 4 роки тому

      @MP 81,16,18 CATS By the time that Jordan was drafted (at #3 btw, because the league put greater value on big men) to Chicago, he also was part of the 1984 Olympic team and his addition just as a rookie out of college got the team to win the gold handily before he even put on the Bulls uni. So just thinking about it, he was an NCAA champion and Olympic gold medalist before he laced up for Chicago and to top it off impressed the likes of Dean Smith, Roy Williams and Bobby Knight. There's luck which GM Rod Thorn, just before his firing by Reinsdorf the following year, would handily agree happened and then there's someone with a solid state of fundamentals and a mother of a competitive drive like Jordan.

  • @Dalejr88rox
    @Dalejr88rox 5 років тому +5

    Great vid as always. A great idea for one of these would be the collapse of the Greatest Show on Turf Rams of the 2000's

  • @SlugCult718
    @SlugCult718 3 місяці тому

    This series was amazing. Very well done. They're on the level of a 30 for 30 documentary film series.

  • @StonyHeatbag
    @StonyHeatbag 5 років тому +75

    How the Edmonton Oilers Collapsed after losing Game 7 of Stanley cup in 06

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 5 років тому +5

      I hate the oilers for that year because they beat my red wings

    • @thekandycinema3193
      @thekandycinema3193 5 років тому +1

      Gotta start in the playoffs with Marc-Andre Bergeron pushing Ladd into Roloson. That started their downfall

    • @StonyHeatbag
      @StonyHeatbag 5 років тому

      Attie Pollard sorry about that lol, that was basically Columbus Tampa this year lol

    • @StonyHeatbag
      @StonyHeatbag 5 років тому

      TheKandyCinema jussi was pretty good in that finals tho

    • @edmontonboy99
      @edmontonboy99 5 років тому

      Stony Plain Heatbag Yeah that’s true; Pronger requests a trade, we win the draft lottery & pick four 1st overalls, and Chiarelli trades the best players.

  • @MoneyHoneyBunny
    @MoneyHoneyBunny 4 роки тому +4

    By the way, Kerr won TWO rings with the Spurs. He's got 8 rings, the most of any player/coach in any recent NBA era BESIDES Phil Jackson, only players on the early NBA Celtics several eras ago have more than Kerr besides Phil. Phil has 13 rings of course total as player and coach.

  • @aidancash8272
    @aidancash8272 4 роки тому +2

    Perfect watch right after the last dance

  • @rafaabrantes8142
    @rafaabrantes8142 3 роки тому +20

    And now in 2021 the hope rises again when they got a generational talent in Carushow.

    • @cheikhna1947
      @cheikhna1947 2 роки тому

      Stop beers please and donate for the bulls museum !

    • @jonathanwashington9199
      @jonathanwashington9199 2 роки тому

      Caruso Would've Been Perfect On The 90's Bulls Caruso Does The Little Things To Help The Team Win

  • @1124-w9d
    @1124-w9d 3 роки тому +2

    I will always hate the Jerrys for what they did to the team, especially when MJ had half a mind to come back and rest of them probably would've followed.
    But i do see why Reinsdorf did it. It wasn't a stupid decision, just a downright business one with no regard to the fans.
    Running a championship team is profitable but in a market like post-jordan chicago, just somewhat more profitable than running a bad team. The Bulls still sold out all their games in 99 season and most of 2000 season. They still ranked neared the top in attendance most of the 2000s, despite making the post season like four times. Because of the Bulls success in the 90s, fans still came to see the post-Jordan Bulls despite them sucking.
    While they still sold tickets, the terrible Bulls obviously cost much less than the dynasty Bulls. They stayed below the cap for much of the decade, and they traded away the only guy that could've demanded a max contract (Elton Brand) for a rookie. Basically they ran the team like Donald Sterling did before John Paxson took over as GM. And Sterling's approach, sadly, makes sense from a business perspective. Being cheap and letting expensive players go should kill your team, but doesn't in a market like Chicago and L.A.