Knicks fans are the worst,if you really cared about the team you would organize into a firm like european football fans..and boycott the team until the guy sells the team...keep the arena cheerless
randy lehi hey clown, Madison Square Garden is a tourist attraction when people come to NY. It’s also a place that corporations take clients to schmooze. Even if most fans boycotted the arena would still be filled because it has appeal outside of being a Knicks fan.
If the clippers managed to turn it around post-Sterling, then there's always hope. C'mon Dolan, I know you've got a racist, mistress scandal somewhere in you. Do it for the future of the franchise.
Dolan embarrassed franchise by ordering his Madison Square Garden security to escort Charles Oakley out of arena because critically ripping management for not building contender
He is the Harold Ballard, white-collar criminal and owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs during the ‘70s and ‘80s, of basketball. Owner of an original team in the largest media market for its sport, and one so inept and crooked that most teams in smaller markets would have since either moved or folded if run as badly.
I think it’s the other way around. They’ve been so terrible because they are in NYC and haven’t had the pressure to keep a good team and competent front office. The fans will come regardless.
All the bad contacts the Knicks have thrown around over the last 20 years and the one guy they decided to be cheap with was Patrick Ewing. What the heck is that.
If you're a Knicks fan, you better walk around with a recorder , hoping to catch Dolan saying something racist or deadful. that way the NBA can force him to sell the team. Other then that he'll be there even after your Grand children demise. 😏
Im on it these 4 parts should he in that extended addition Hope: JR Henney Smith Reality: He unties other dudes shoe laces 😂 Hope: Zion and Ja Morant Reality: The third pick Hope: Lebron James Reality: Amare Stoudemire Hope: Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving Reality: Julius Randle and KD and Kyrie go to thr Brooklyn Nets 😂😂
@@eddyeddy3243 adrian wojnarowski the best NBA journalist out there. When Woj says something is happening, it’s happening. Unless Woj reports five minutes later it isn’t
@@2kmichaeljordan438 I would say that they have deeper depths to plumb. You never know with the Knicks, or for that matter, the Mets. Glad I am not a fan of either.
James Dolan HAS to be the worst owner in sports. Hell, not just sports, everyone I know complains about Cablevision. Hopefully for Knicks fans he does with the Knicks what he did with Cabelvision: Sell
Seth Rosenthal deserves all the credit in the world for simultaneously telling the God's honest truth about the Knicks' never-ending ineptitude while also putting a humorous spin on things. Seth's my kind of guy.
I agree 100 percent, not just for this segment, but on all segments that Seth does. His narrations are glorious. I can't stand the other guy. I forget his name, but he always sounds tired and moody whenever he talks.
To me, the height of the failure for the Knicks was when they tried to pair Marbury with Francis. Two ball-dominant PGs with similar games and they thought that was going to work. It was just strange.
Then Francis hits a game winning shot to beat Wizards. Go to 8th seed. Still losing and yet they EXTEND Isiah Thomas to 3 years LOL. Then proceed to lose a ton and fall out of playoff contention.
@BlackDeathViral03 Cablevision, MSG, the Rangers and everything else in their portfolio has consistently gone up in value even during recessions. Their grandfather is the founder. Don't count on it.
- Wasting the 2011 amnesty clause on Billups' one year on his contract so they could sign Tyson Chandler instead using of it on the remaining years of Amar'e's contract which prevented them from signing Chris Paul in 2012. - Promoting Mike Woodson to full-time head coach instead of doing a full coaching search. - Trading Steve Novak and a 1st rounder for Bargnani who Toronto was begging any team to take. - Signing Chris Smith (JR's brother) to a contract in 2013-14 as a favor to JR which caused a rift in the locker room because none of the guys believed he deserved that contract. - Dolan overruling Grunwald on trading Tim Hardaway Jr. for Kyle Lowry because he was afraid he'd be fleeced by Masai Ujiri again. - Signing Joakim Noah to a 4 year, $72M contract the moment when 2016 free agency opened when no one expected him to get anywhere near that.
this honestly made me relive my entire childhood.... being born in '93 the 99 knicks were the first time i started to have a love for basketball.... and since then ive been scratching and clawing to defend my knicks since.... pray for me
When I visited New York in 1991 my Auntie brought me Patrick Ewing Sneakers I didn’t know who he was (I’m from the uk ) & she said he’s a Jamaican that plays for the Knicks. I’ve always kept an eye out for them since then
@MOHAMMED WALI like he said is still better than being a nix fan..... they are in New York City not Charlotte see the difference major market vs small market
Cool how Chernobyl quotes work for the Knicks... “There was nothing sane about the Knicks. What happened there... all of it, madness.” “In a just world, I’d be shot for my trades” “Dolan doesn’t care about our needs or wants. He will lie in wait, tanking for all time. This, at last, is the gift of the Knicks”
10:17 The look on that chicks face next to Isiah epitomizes how Knicks fans feel about the Knicks moves the last two decades. the look on the face of the guy above her epitomizes how the rest of the league feels
Gotta give the Knicks fans (including Seth) some credit for really supporting no matter how dysfunctional this franchise was and still is, some fans still hope for a good turn of events for this franchise.
It really isn't easy. And if some want to defect to Brooklyn, I wouldn't blame them. Having nothing but the chaos that has been Dolan can do things to the most loyal supporters.
Custom-R sad thing is I was a nets fan till 2016 where I then went to knicks cuz I thought about how most of my favorite players are knicks players tho I still supported the nets. I think I’ll be a fan of both or switch back
Carl Andrew Pavico LoL loyalty to incompetence is the dumbest thing ever. Knicks fan should root for the Nets and hope lower attendance and viewership forces Dolan to sell
“In 1999, James Dolan, son of a successful businessman, inherited control of the New York Knicks.” i’d like to submit this to the most infuriating single sentence hall of fame
Can't wait for the trade in 2021 for 5 future 1st round picks for the remains of Greg oden. Team goes 0-82 two straight years and they end up giving up the rights to an all-star team
Here’s what I gathered here: A bunch of bad trades Bad contracts Bad relationships No one here ever heard of rebuilding Also no mentioning of Jared Jeffries.
@Denny mack when did i say he doesnt have potential, he has potential to be good yes but come on hes never gonna reach superstar level like kyrie or anything
The pairing of Marbury and Francis still makes me scratch my head to this day. Two ball-dominant PGs with very similar playstyles. It was doomed to fail and boy oh boy did it fail.
I can see why Stephen A Smith gave up on this team. All the missed opportunities to improve had my jaw dropping in astonishment. Plus as a Raptors fan, thanks for taking Andrea Bargnani
I was 5 when the Knicks went to the '99 Finals, so too young to know anything. Damn. I remember when the Knicks went to the playoffs in 2012 and 2013 and then not making it back again. I had no idea the Knicks had all that going on.
Australia early/mid-90s... As a kid I used to buy the papers myself and phone recorded messages just to track Knicks results. Man, I loved those 90s Knicks. The modern version is killing me.
Not sure how you'd be able to explain it...but branching out on the Collapse theme, you should do a collapse of the West Indies cricket team. From 1980-1995 they never lost a series of Test matches, home or away. Then they lost a series at home to Australia and within five years, the team completely fell apart, became the worst Test playing nation in the world at the time and were barely able to keep their head above water
My god. These painful memories have been buried and hidden. It's overwhelming but healthy to revisit and come to terms with 20 years of a painful relationship. Dolan needs to go.
I mean like he said, the fans keep coming back and on top of that, they’re in the New York market. He just hoping to turn it around one day, but the fans genuinely have to just stop coming in order for that to happen. And I doubt that’ll happen somewhere like New York. But even so, his incompetence is astounding.
The money,and his ego. Dude has an actual band,and since he owns Madison Square Garden,he actually books his band to open for legends like Elton John and Billy Joel. If that isn't ego, I don't know what is
I just found this channel and I'm on like a 3+ hour binge as we speak... So well done, can't praise the production value of these videos enough. Bravo, buddy... And good luck being a Knicks fan. You're gonna need it.
Layden was worse , Isaiah was at least a good draft picker lol also he made pretty good moves for talent but to me just made too many moves and ended up with an unbalanced roster like having Eddy curry and zack Randolph at center and PF both good at the time but didn't fit together both relied on low post scoring and both sucked at defense between them and David Lee we had a team with zero interior defense, he could have built a good team around marbury but constant roster changes and constantly adding good players that just don't fit what we need left us with a mess.
During that time with SG Latrell Sprewell, PF Larry Johnson, C Patrick Ewing & PG Charlie Ward, the Knicks were rumored to attempt to trade SF Allan Houston & PF Kurt Thomas for F Chris Webber. That would have been a game changer. Larry Johnson & Chris Webber along with Antonio McDyess would the best squad of forwards on one team.
Since the 90s* limiting the Knicks to Linsanity Is like saying that the Lakers have had only a good thing in Alex Caruso. Completely dumb and forced comment.
@@bennybro2229 If the Knicks got the #1 pick and Zion wasn't chosen then i'd imagine that Dolan would need armed security around him 24/7. Especially with how good Zion has turned out to be once he got back from his injury.
@@bennybro2229 Everyone has set their sights on Zion at the draft as he was the consensus No. 1 pick, a once in a lifetime talent. But the weird thing was that rumours began to circle that the Knicks were going to package the pick (even if it landed on the coveted No. 1) with Kevin Knox, Frank Ntlikina and others to acquire Anthony Davis to convince KD and Kyrie to join the Knicks and form a Big 3 there. Imagine the backlash Dolan would've got if he tradead away a generational talent in Zion to get a star player with an expiring contract to convince two other stars to join.
I feel bad for Knicks fans, they are too loyal and committed as a fan base to have consistent poor years from awful decision making. I'm a vindictive Jazz fan who is supposed to hate the big-market teams (which I kind of do for snatching every one of our all-stars we've ever developed), but really, the awesome, loyal Knicks fans deserve better.
I wouldn't post a quote from Stupid A. Smug if he said the sky is blue and water is wet. The guy is the perfect human illustration of "empty barrels make the most noise."
@@mystichdx Doesn't matter who said it, it's true. The Knicks are dead. Their only hope is to one day rise out of the ashes of Dolan's grave like a Pheonix when that incompetent man finally dies.
No... I'm sorry but the Knicks are still THE draw. Stop listening to gasbags with no talent that get paid money to have barbershop talk on TV!!!! Brooklyn crowds are half Knick crowds.... even more Knick fans show up for Knick-Net games and completely drown out Nets fans. These are facts 💯😂
Gabe Eady not even close bro. Lakers go on downfalls and come back strong with free agency, trades that are built into chips. Knicks invest in scrubs only to fill up the seats. Lakers will be champs this year!!!!
I literally have no idea why people hate the Knicks and their fans so much. Our front office has been completely incompetent 95% of the time and your favorite team likely beats us 2-4 times every year. please leave us alone 😭
I think it's because of the amount of media attention they receive. Over the last 5 to 8 years, there have been more deserving teams to discuss basketball wise. Yet, the Knicks always get time in the spotlight. Because of NYC. For example, all this year before free agency we heard how the Knicks were gonna get Kyrie+KD. But, why would they want to go there? It makes no basketball sense ,given the trash management and poor teammates, when's theres other more deserving teams.
@@Charlie-wl2qt And yes,I do see your point and agree with you. It's scandalous how teams like the Raptors,76ers, and Bucks get so little time in the spotlight. You would also have to mention the Brooklyn Nets because of the slow but steady success they've been building on,and the additions of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant,as well as the Clippers rise and addition of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. The casual fan misses out on lots of compelling stories because of media bias. That said,the best way for a team that isn't as popular to get fans and attention is to win. MAKE them notice.
@@devoncampbell3607 Sonic was great in the 90's and then the game started to decline in the early 2000's, and in the late 2000's and early 2010's it was so bad you forgot it was so good in the 90's
“Which is why what’s about to happen still makes me want to swallow my own eyeballs.” 😂😂😂 Seth, you are TOO funny. Love you and all of you at SB Nation :-)
The newyork knicks to basketball are like the Toronto maple leafs to hockey. Over priced tickets. Over paid players and not a chance in hell of winning a championship😂😂😂
As someone from Toronto I couldn't agree more There's no way in hell Leafs tickets to watch a mediocre team should be costing more than Raptors tickets with legitimate playoff contenders (keep in mind as of this writing this is after Leonard left)
If Dolan was to ever sell the team, only a FEW, VERY few people could even cough up 5+ BILLION or even more...... and that's just this year. Sports teams are getting more and more valuable each and every year.
Painful to relive the past 20 years in under 20 minutes, as a native New Yorker and a fan who remembers watching the ‘73 championship season as a kid and thrilling to Bernard King’s shooting star in the early ‘80’s.
I wanna see you do one of these on Doug Pederson's Eagles. From Super Bowl champs to a 4-11-1 season, head coaching firing, quarterback change and rebuild three years later. I say this as a Birds fan.
And now they're 4th in the East as Dolan took a step back, FINALLY understanding after decades of failure that "hey maybe I don't know much about basketball" and let actual basketball people handle the basketball aspect of the Knicks franchise.
This was so accurate, you did a great job with this, that you deserve an OSCAR nomination and win. It's rough being a KNICKS FAN. Signed KNICKS FAN FOR LIFE. BUT I AM CHRISTIAN FIRST, SO I AM GOING TO KEEP PRAYING FOR GOD TO SAVE THE WORLD AND THE KNICKS.
I stopped being a Knicks fan after Van Gundy left. A friend of mine stopped being a fan when they traded Bernard King. This team is perpetually doomed. It's unfortunate. The organization has no loyalty to any of there players. None. This is why the Knicks will never get another ring. GOD is always GOOD !
Gotta come back to this after the pick swap the Knicks did for Carmelo turned into Jamal Murray who became a driving force in helping the Nuggets to their first ever Finals.
I’ll never forget the 1994 NBA Finals. The Knicks held a 3-2 lead going into Houston and chocked in Game Six. Then Game Seven. That was their last real chance at a title. 1999 was a fluke and they were never going to beat San Antonio in the Finals that year.
@@yourhomie7568 LeBron did better on his 1st season Blake Griffin did Carmelo did Wade did Luka did if I keep going I'm gonna end up mentioning about 200 players I'm a Knicks fan and getting tired of what this organization is doing we can't even pick right draft night and if we do we end up trading them
@@josesemino8284 trae young didn't curry didn't kobe didn't all these stars wasn't good in there first year but they got better stop expecting a star out the gate some players aren't like that
The Knicks haven't been relevant for the vast majority of my adulthood. I don't wanna hear about them again until they start looking like a decent operation for once.
I don't like basketball, but I do agree with you getting fed up with the Knicks. Might as well be the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns and Cincinnati Bengals of the NBA all in one.
@@yell0wberry I know they were bad when I was a baby and eventually became playoff regulars again after Patrick Ewing got going. That's when the Knicks were really worth watching. Not so much these days.
This video only needed to last five seconds.
"In 1999 James Dolan inherieted the New York Knicks."
That's what I said! Lol
No, he stole that power away from his business partner
Knicks fans are the worst,if you really cared about the team you would organize into a firm like european football fans..and boycott the team until the guy sells the team...keep the arena cheerless
This is very true.
randy lehi hey clown, Madison Square Garden is a tourist attraction when people come to NY. It’s also a place that corporations take clients to schmooze. Even if most fans boycotted the arena would still be filled because it has appeal outside of being a Knicks fan.
The Knicks are that kid that you know is getting abused at home but can’t do anything about it
Sad but true
Ans cps has been there multiple times.. Kids always in the hospital. Etc
@@Apolloneek The parents are rich with powerful lawyers and so any interference with the kids home life would result in a giant lawsuit
uh. you can definitely do something about that.
Look the other way
NY had the wrong Curry and James
😂
eddy curry and jerome james the 🐐🐐
@Joe Turner 😂
LMAO. that was. My sin was believing in them.
They cleared the cap for LeBron in 2010, but he refused to sign😂
If the clippers managed to turn it around post-Sterling, then there's always hope. C'mon Dolan, I know you've got a racist, mistress scandal somewhere in you. Do it for the future of the franchise.
😂😂😂 I would never wish that on someone, but i honestly feel for knicks fans so for this it'll be an exception
Dolan embarrassed franchise by ordering his Madison Square Garden security to escort Charles Oakley out of arena because critically ripping management for not building contender
Clippers still haven’t made it passed the second round so ....
Steve Ballmer is a funny guy. The Clippers should do a halftime show of him dancing to Windows 95 launch.
Dolan i would think have a lot of hoes.. but i dont think there's a racist rant in him..
The Knicks only hope is someone catching Dolan saying the N word on tape
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeh, look at the clippers now, we need our Steve balmer
Give him a Snickers bar, wait till his mouth is full of chocolate, and ask him what he's eating
Literally lol’d
Dolan pulls a Donald Sterling lol
New York Knicks has replaced Seinfeld as the longest running sitcom set in New York.
Seems fitting as Seinfeld ended its run a few years before the Knicks became a joke.
Damn that's is a legendary accomplishment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It replaced Friends. Even though Threat Matrix was far better. That show was so awesome when I was thirteen.
Damn and Seinfeld ended in ‘98 ...after 2001 The Knicks became a joke
Nah Friends did then the Knicks
If the Knicks were in almost any other city they wouldn't a team anymore. Dolan is extremely lucky his team is based in NYC.
He makes the owner in the movie Eddie look like a saint and he wants move the team to St. Louis
He is the Harold Ballard, white-collar criminal and owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs during the ‘70s and ‘80s, of basketball. Owner of an original team in the largest media market for its sport, and one so inept and crooked that most teams in smaller markets would have since either moved or folded if run as badly.
I mean look at the suns. They’ve had horrible ownership and somehow they’re still in Phoenix
I think it’s the other way around. They’ve been so terrible because they are in NYC and haven’t had the pressure to keep a good team and competent front office. The fans will come regardless.
@@leedlesquad1244 they've been to the playoffs had to best record and lost to Kobe/Duncan... that's far off from these damn Knicks lol
You just got banned from Madison square garden
Lmfao
All the bad contacts the Knicks have thrown around over the last 20 years and the one guy they decided to be cheap with was Patrick Ewing. What the heck is that.
Knicks basketball
Losers “
The Curse of Ewing. Opposite of the Ewing Theory. :D
@@shorewall agreed. I think when Layton turned down Ewing, he secretly cursed the Knicks for treating him badly despite all he did.
@@shorewall yo, this is crazy. I thought I was the only one who had for years been positing a Ewing curse.
The knicks has suffered for more years than i have been alive.
They say it gets worse before it gets better. But at some point, one asks, when does it get better?
Custom-R Never, unless they get rid of Dolan.
@@Ethan-rd6hc yeah the NBA should force him to sell like Donald sterling because the nets are coming
If you're a Knicks fan, you better walk around with a recorder , hoping to catch Dolan saying something racist or deadful. that way the NBA can force him to sell the team. Other then that he'll be there even after your Grand children demise. 😏
@@hermp1174 i dont think he is racist.. im not sure what he is.. other than cancerous for the knicks.
Isaiah Thomas: "I was a guard! Lets spend 100 million all on guards! Because that's what I was!"
Lmaoooo
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣💯
Draft picks? I say humbug
Sad part is, if Seth went in depth about the Knicks from 2009 up through now to the same extent he did 1998-2008, this video would be 45 min long lol.
Lol goddamn man 😆
Release the Seth Cut !!!!!!!!!
I mean it’s worth a shot after warner brother’s green lite the Snyder cut of justice league
Im on it these 4 parts should he in that extended addition
Hope: JR Henney Smith
Reality: He unties other dudes shoe laces 😂
Hope: Zion and Ja Morant
Reality: The third pick
Hope: Lebron James
Reality: Amare Stoudemire
Hope: Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving
Reality: Julius Randle and KD and Kyrie go to thr Brooklyn Nets 😂😂
Best thing happened to knicks was linsanity. They dont even deserve it.
Let’s just take a moment that Woj was putting in work back in 2000
It's not like woj is young man, he's 50
That's his father, D'Antly Woj.
Cayden Richmond who’s woj
@@eddyeddy3243 He's the biggest nba insider, he breaks all the news on twitter and that's where the term "woj bomb" comes from
@@eddyeddy3243 adrian wojnarowski the best NBA journalist out there. When Woj says something is happening, it’s happening. Unless Woj reports five minutes later it isn’t
Knicks are that crack addict relative who can't get their life together, no matter how much you try to help and root for them.
I think he's the rich drunk uncle who embarrasses everyone but no body says anything because he pays everyone's Bill's.
Statutory Grape بببببب
Obese relative you pray had a healthier diet*
No way. I deal with crack addicts in my profession and I still have more hope for all of them than I do for the Knicks.
Now that's an analogy.
Knicks fans always: “It can’t get worse, right?”
*gets worse*
Hey, when you hit rock bottom, there’s no way to go but up!
@@2kmichaeljordan438 The real question, have they hit rock bottom?
@@ynsimha7663 last season they sure as hell did
@@2kmichaeljordan438 I would say that they have deeper depths to plumb. You never know with the Knicks, or for that matter, the Mets. Glad I am not a fan of either.
Got better
James Dolan HAS to be the worst owner in sports. Hell, not just sports, everyone I know complains about Cablevision. Hopefully for Knicks fans he does with the Knicks what he did with Cabelvision: Sell
Eugene Melnyk is by far worse. The Knicks are a disaster but the Dolan is a great owner for the Rangers
Stan Kroenke's ownership of Arsenal FC is probably the worst but Dolan deffo a close 2nd
There is a reason why kyrie and kd went to the nets and not the knicks. Dolan.
Michael Jordan and Donald sterling are just as bad as Dolan
The man is pathetic...You can't even comment on JD And The Straight Shot music vids cos I reckon people will just rip on him..hahaha
Stephen a. Smith watching this video with tears in his eyes
So am I
And hate in his heart
Watching this fighting back tears with the crying Jordan face
Seth Rosenthal deserves all the credit in the world for simultaneously telling the God's honest truth about the Knicks' never-ending ineptitude while also putting a humorous spin on things. Seth's my kind of guy.
I agree 100 percent, not just for this segment, but on all segments that Seth does. His narrations are glorious. I can't stand the other guy. I forget his name, but he always sounds tired and moody whenever he talks.
you can see seth aging minute by minute in this video, poor guy :(
It's easy to see him slowly dying inside as he talk about the Knicks.
@@kaiwenneilkoh8218 yeah im a knicks fan also around seth's age, so this video took a toll on me too
Yes but in a video based around the Knicks Seth was the only person in the SB Nation office who was up for the task.
@@meatrubber6552 no other man was fit to handle the intense pressure and depression like breaking down the Knicks.
why did he leave out chris childs?...or dudley who filled in for ewing
You made this video 20 years too early, bro. That timeline is still going... 😂😂😂
All time lines are still going.
@@jestertheslacker r/woosh
😂😂😂
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Bro, youtube wasnt a thing in 1999. It was invented in 2005.
To me, the height of the failure for the Knicks was when they tried to pair Marbury with Francis. Two ball-dominant PGs with similar games and they thought that was going to work. It was just strange.
Then Francis hits a game winning shot to beat Wizards. Go to 8th seed. Still losing and yet they EXTEND Isiah Thomas to 3 years LOL. Then proceed to lose a ton and fall out of playoff contention.
Will Knicks fans have to make Dolan into a human sacrifice to end their suffering?
Worth a shot
A "shot"? More like that is literally the only thing that can save the Knicks. He is THE one thing that is wrong.
@@mystichdx Better bring back up, he has 6 sons. This is only going to get worse.
Find out next time, on Dragon Ball Z
@BlackDeathViral03 Cablevision, MSG, the Rangers and everything else in their portfolio has consistently gone up in value even during recessions. Their grandfather is the founder. Don't count on it.
Man! I wish they kept this video for at least 50 minutes explaining their collapses in the 2010's
askarana yeah they had 2 collapses smh lol
- Wasting the 2011 amnesty clause on Billups' one year on his contract so they could sign Tyson Chandler instead using of it on the remaining years of Amar'e's contract which prevented them from signing Chris Paul in 2012.
- Promoting Mike Woodson to full-time head coach instead of doing a full coaching search.
- Trading Steve Novak and a 1st rounder for Bargnani who Toronto was begging any team to take.
- Signing Chris Smith (JR's brother) to a contract in 2013-14 as a favor to JR which caused a rift in the locker room because none of the guys believed he deserved that contract.
- Dolan overruling Grunwald on trading Tim Hardaway Jr. for Kyle Lowry because he was afraid he'd be fleeced by Masai Ujiri again.
- Signing Joakim Noah to a 4 year, $72M contract the moment when 2016 free agency opened when no one expected him to get anywhere near that.
Yeah at least isiah drafted well...look who Donnie drafted....Jordan somebody
@@FiremanH16As a Bulls fan, I wad shocked someone pay Joakim that much and can't shoot and this when league transitioning to 3point era...
this honestly made me relive my entire childhood.... being born in '93 the 99 knicks were the first time i started to have a love for basketball.... and since then ive been scratching and clawing to defend my knicks since.... pray for me
You are a true fan 💙🧡
When I visited New York in 1991 my Auntie brought me Patrick Ewing Sneakers I didn’t know who he was (I’m from the uk ) & she said he’s a Jamaican that plays for the Knicks. I’ve always kept an eye out for them since then
"son of a successful business man" rarely does it ever end well
The father builds the business
The son expands the business
The grandson ruins the buisness
That's typically how it works.
Except when you end up running an entire country. Daddy cant hand that over you gotta earn that.
@@tank7162 orange man bad?
@@masamune28954 Nah, just trash and bankrupt with daddy even before doing the same with a whole country.
@@dusk6159 I missed that Trevor Noah episode
SB Collapse Season Series: "The.Knicks".
Might win an Emmys for this.
Season 1 - James Dolan
Season 2 - Isiah Thomas (Guest Appearance ft. James Dolan)
Season 3 - James Dolan Vol. 2
The only cool thing about being a Hornets fan is at least I’m not a knicks fan
@MOHAMMED WALI like he said is still better than being a nix fan..... they are in New York City not Charlotte see the difference major market vs small market
Mmmmm id still rather be a Knicks fan
MOHAMMED WALI Neeeeewaaaaark! Neeeeewaaaaark!
hornets are waaaaaaaay worse than the knicks
@MOHAMMED WALI Knicks fan have the rug pulled out from under them more, and deal with more sadness 😂 and that's a fact
"Dipshits like me keep caring about them."
I feel seen.
As a knicks fan that has lived through this the last 20 years, this honestly made me punch a hole through my bedroom door
Brandon Bourgault you’re not alone man 🤦🏾♂️
@@MOET02 Why would you do that?? Im a fan but not really angry about where they are.
Para que veo estos vídeos en plena cuarentena??
that “hope... letdown” sequence actually broke me
Lin. Stoudemire. Jeffries again. Porzingis.
I was looking for this comment.....same
Cool how Chernobyl quotes work for the Knicks...
“There was nothing sane about the Knicks. What happened there... all of it, madness.”
“In a just world, I’d be shot for my trades”
“Dolan doesn’t care about our needs or wants. He will lie in wait, tanking for all time. This, at last, is the gift of the Knicks”
10:17 The look on that chicks face next to Isiah epitomizes how Knicks fans feel about the Knicks moves the last two decades. the look on the face of the guy above her epitomizes how the rest of the league feels
Beardy McJ I want to know who she is, she’s beautiful
Beardy McJ yes
She look like she about kill everyone in the knicks management
bro see you in 2029 "How the Knicks' terrible leadership turned a contender into 30 years and counting of misery"
Why u gotta do it to us :(
Looks like that might not occur after all
Thats what you may have thought.... Until now! 9 straight, great coach, and a bright future. Finally
Yup
Wont happen mark my words lmao
Gotta give the Knicks fans (including Seth) some credit for really supporting no matter how dysfunctional this franchise was and still is, some fans still hope for a good turn of events for this franchise.
It really isn't easy. And if some want to defect to Brooklyn, I wouldn't blame them. Having nothing but the chaos that has been Dolan can do things to the most loyal supporters.
Custom-R sad thing is I was a nets fan till 2016 where I then went to knicks cuz I thought about how most of my favorite players are knicks players tho I still supported the nets. I think I’ll be a fan of both or switch back
Knicks fan forever
Carl Andrew Pavico LoL loyalty to incompetence is the dumbest thing ever. Knicks fan should root for the Nets and hope lower attendance and viewership forces Dolan to sell
I’m already scarred. The damage has been done. Knicks fandom branded in me, and I will die and reincarnate as a Knicks fan forever. #karma
I'm not even a Knicks fan but *SELL THE TEAM DOLAN!!!*
On one hand, it's every league needs cellar dwellers, on the other hand, this is getting old
@@malgold88 exactly fam there's always a changing of the guard in sports Golden State is a shining example.
Go sell your ass .. is corny when non Knick fans talk makes ya sound like hating bozos
@@Gdot62412 Facts bruh
Youni Du 🔸🔹🔸🔹🔸🔹
“In 1999, James Dolan, son of a successful businessman, inherited control of the New York Knicks.”
i’d like to submit this to the most infuriating single sentence hall of fame
This is also how Stephen A Smith's hairline collapsed all the way to the back of his head
Well that's where you're wrong and here's why
LOL!!!!
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
W
You have the TEMERITY ,the unmitigated GALL, to sit there and say something so BLASPHEMOUS 🤣😂😅😊
In another 20 years we’ll get an updated version of the Knicks collapse
the amount of material though
Can't wait for the trade in 2021 for 5 future 1st round picks for the remains of Greg oden. Team goes 0-82 two straight years and they end up giving up the rights to an all-star team
Knicks will get giannis
In order to collapse you actually have to be good to begin with
20 minutes of hope, let down.
Here’s what I gathered here:
A bunch of bad trades
Bad contracts
Bad relationships
No one here ever heard of rebuilding
Also no mentioning of Jared Jeffries.
That's still exactly what's going on right now
SpeedHomeAttack One would think the Knicks would wake the f*ck up and start rebuilding around RJ Barrett after failing to get KD and Kyrie...
@@Yeen125 rj barret is good but he's not franchise player caliber tbh
@Denny mack when did i say he doesnt have potential, he has potential to be good yes but come on hes never gonna reach superstar level like kyrie or anything
@@Yeen125 i would rather they build around Mitchell Robinson
"How can we spend the MOST amount of money on the oldest, most injured players in the league?"
- Management
I’m kinda sad they didn’t sign Gordon Hayward and traded Randle for Blake Griffin
@@SweepinShims hayward is doing pretty good tho
The pairing of Marbury and Francis still makes me scratch my head to this day. Two ball-dominant PGs with very similar playstyles. It was doomed to fail and boy oh boy did it fail.
I can see why Stephen A Smith gave up on this team. All the missed opportunities to improve had my jaw dropping in astonishment. Plus as a Raptors fan, thanks for taking Andrea Bargnani
I was 5 when the Knicks went to the '99 Finals, so too young to know anything. Damn. I remember when the Knicks went to the playoffs in 2012 and 2013 and then not making it back again. I had no idea the Knicks had all that going on.
Bargnani was horrible he still put u nearly 20 points just had some goofy moments
@@brendan7210 Goofy for sure
@@brendan7210 His attempted dunk made me want to gouge my eyes out
And what's even worse, Kemba Walker got traded to Detroit
20-21: hope
21-22: letdown
More like:
Hope
Trae Young 🥶
@@Painkiller-1997 nah he said it correctly..
Same with nyc in general, hope(sliwa) letdown(adams wins election)
22-23 "hopeful"
@@Painkiller-1997 how's lice trae's team doing this year 🐜
I got a new chant:
"Sell the team"
future hofer careful Dolan will ban you...
Not catchy at all... People would have to chant it like "Sell the tee- eem"
Which is very uncomfortable musically speaking.
future hofer Lmao it finally happened 😂😂
Hard to have a Chant when no one shows up.
New Jersey Knicks
This one was long overdue but it was a combination of bad trades, bad offseason moves and not valuing draft picks.
Isiah
Knowing Spike Lee said "hornswoggled" in an interview took this video from really good to great lmfao
And bamboozled as well 🤣
Hearing the pain in Seths voice while he has to suffer through this period again makes this an even better experience
Australia early/mid-90s... As a kid I used to buy the papers myself and phone recorded messages just to track Knicks results.
Man, I loved those 90s Knicks. The modern version is killing me.
Not sure how you'd be able to explain it...but branching out on the Collapse theme, you should do a collapse of the West Indies cricket team. From 1980-1995 they never lost a series of Test matches, home or away.
Then they lost a series at home to Australia and within five years, the team completely fell apart, became the worst Test playing nation in the world at the time and were barely able to keep their head above water
Oh 1983 World Cup were India became a cricket powerhouse
My god. These painful memories have been buried and hidden. It's overwhelming but healthy to revisit and come to terms with 20 years of a painful relationship.
Dolan needs to go.
“Let’s get to the bad part” at the beginning of a 20 minute video.
video is not even 20 minutes long
Hope - Julius Randle balling out in the regular season
Letdown - Trae Young shushing NYC in the first round.
The cycle continues.
Let’s face it, the Knicks weren’t even supposed to make playoffs
Wouldn't the letdown be that the Knicks became bad almost immediately after their first respectable season?
@@DMalltheway neither were the hawks
@@DeosPraetorian Adding Galinari and Lou Williams and Bogdan, the answer is YES it’s playoffs or bust.
@@DMalltheway Looks like it's bust this season
How is Dolan not embarrassed enough to give this all up? Top 5 worst executives of all time imo
cause he make money from it
I mean like he said, the fans keep coming back and on top of that, they’re in the New York market. He just hoping to turn it around one day, but the fans genuinely have to just stop coming in order for that to happen. And I doubt that’ll happen somewhere like New York. But even so, his incompetence is astounding.
fans need to stop supporting the team and giving him money until he sells that's the only way this ends positively
Because he makes millions and the team is worth Billions.
The money,and his ego. Dude has an actual band,and since he owns Madison Square Garden,he actually books his band to open for legends like Elton John and Billy Joel. If that isn't ego, I don't know what is
"And now time for everyones favorite barrel full of laughs: Everybody laugh at the Knicks!" -Urinating Tree
@Harry Engel Twice, with one legendary team of the 70s of the other Knicks legendary teams, on top of their richest history and status.
I just found this channel and I'm on like a 3+ hour binge as we speak... So well done, can't praise the production value of these videos enough. Bravo, buddy... And good luck being a Knicks fan. You're gonna need it.
I seriously had to pause this before the Isaiah Thomas part...just needed a minute to compose myself and prepare to die laughing.
Even a bag of Doritos would have done a better job than that sexually harassing, deeply insecure smiling guy.
@@soullessSiIence You got that right
Layden was worse , Isaiah was at least a good draft picker lol also he made pretty good moves for talent but to me just made too many moves and ended up with an unbalanced roster like having Eddy curry and zack Randolph at center and PF both good at the time but didn't fit together both relied on low post scoring and both sucked at defense between them and David Lee we had a team with zero interior defense, he could have built a good team around marbury but constant roster changes and constantly adding good players that just don't fit what we need left us with a mess.
Isiah*
@@soullessSiIence I couldn't had said it better🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍
During that time with SG Latrell Sprewell, PF Larry Johnson, C Patrick Ewing & PG Charlie Ward, the Knicks were rumored to attempt to trade SF Allan Houston & PF Kurt Thomas for F Chris Webber. That would have been a game changer. Larry Johnson & Chris Webber along with Antonio McDyess would the best squad of forwards on one team.
Best thing happened to knicks was linsanity. They dont even deserve it.
At least since 1973...
Same thing with the Hornets, i should know, i'm a charlotte fan...
Since the 90s* limiting the Knicks to Linsanity Is like saying that the Lakers have had only a good thing in Alex Caruso.
Completely dumb and forced comment.
I watched almost every game since 1985 and after that run to the finals without any doubt, Jeremy Lin provided the only bright spot since.
@@NeilNye-fp4df I guess you miss them making a run to the finals as an 8 seed
Hope: We'll tank so hard so we'll get the No. 1 pick in the draft and get Zion Williamson
Letdown: The 3rd pick goes to...the New York Knicks
What makes you think if the had the #1 pick, that the Knicks would take Zion?
@@bennybro2229 If the Knicks got the #1 pick and Zion wasn't chosen then i'd imagine that Dolan would need armed security around him 24/7. Especially with how good Zion has turned out to be once he got back from his injury.
And missed out on signing Kyrie and Durant...to the Nets lmao
@@bennybro2229 Everyone has set their sights on Zion at the draft as he was the consensus No. 1 pick, a once in a lifetime talent. But the weird thing was that rumours began to circle that the Knicks were going to package the pick (even if it landed on the coveted No. 1) with Kevin Knox, Frank Ntlikina and others to acquire Anthony Davis to convince KD and Kyrie to join the Knicks and form a Big 3 there. Imagine the backlash Dolan would've got if he tradead away a generational talent in Zion to get a star player with an expiring contract to convince two other stars to join.
@@bennybro2229 LOL. Reminds me of Fat Joe's statement on First Take
I feel bad for Knicks fans, they are too loyal and committed as a fan base to have consistent poor years from awful decision making. I'm a vindictive Jazz fan who is supposed to hate the big-market teams (which I kind of do for snatching every one of our all-stars we've ever developed), but really, the awesome, loyal Knicks fans deserve better.
"The New York Knicks have officially lost New York to the Brooklyn Nets. They are no longer *the team!* "
- Stephen A. Smith
I wouldn't post a quote from Stupid A. Smug if he said the sky is blue and water is wet. The guy is the perfect human illustration of "empty barrels make the most noise."
mystichdx Stupid A. Smug! 😂👍🏼
@@wolftmfg Dolan is the worst owner in sports
@@mystichdx Doesn't matter who said it, it's true. The Knicks are dead. Their only hope is to one day rise out of the ashes of Dolan's grave like a Pheonix when that incompetent man finally dies.
No... I'm sorry but the Knicks are still THE draw. Stop listening to gasbags with no talent that get paid money to have barbershop talk on TV!!!! Brooklyn crowds are half Knick crowds.... even more Knick fans show up for Knick-Net games and completely drown out Nets fans. These are facts 💯😂
Please Do 2011-2018 lakers! I keep waiting!!! Also I love your channel and the consistently fantastic content you put out. You guys are the best!!!
Gabe Eady not even close bro. Lakers go on downfalls and come back strong with free agency, trades that are built into chips. Knicks invest in scrubs only to fill up the seats. Lakers will be champs this year!!!!
I think sbnation only does a collapse if the franchise is still currently trash. As much as I despise the lakers, they might win the chip this year
That's still in progress
You got it wrong - the Lakers became trash the moment LeFraud jumped in and wrecked the rebuild
That’s just seven years try being a Knicks or a Kings fan.
The Knicks' front office: "Is there any way we can get older and spend more money?"
@ The statue of liberty describes those types of people so it fits
And in this episode of "Let's Laugh at The Knicks" 2020 Edition, we look at the 20 year anniversary of their complete failure and incompetence.
Knicks documentary after they win is gonna be insane.
Win what?
Win the lottery
They’ll eventually win a chip. May take a few decades but when it does happen the doc will be phenomenal.
“All told 50 wins and roadblock in the eastern conference finals constituted business as usual” oh how we wish for that now
I literally have no idea why people hate the Knicks and their fans so much. Our front office has been completely incompetent 95% of the time and your favorite team likely beats us 2-4 times every year. please leave us alone 😭
I think it's because of the amount of media attention they receive. Over the last 5 to 8 years, there have been more deserving teams to discuss basketball wise. Yet, the Knicks always get time in the spotlight. Because of NYC. For example, all this year before free agency we heard how the Knicks were gonna get Kyrie+KD. But, why would they want to go there? It makes no basketball sense ,given the trash management and poor teammates, when's theres other more deserving teams.
@@Charlie-wl2qt And yes,I do see your point and agree with you. It's scandalous how teams like the Raptors,76ers, and Bucks get so little time in the spotlight. You would also have to mention the Brooklyn Nets because of the slow but steady success they've been building on,and the additions of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant,as well as the Clippers rise and addition of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. The casual fan misses out on lots of compelling stories because of media bias. That said,the best way for a team that isn't as popular to get fans and attention is to win. MAKE them notice.
The Knicks successfully created an NBA version of the Sonic cycle
What do you mean?
@@devoncampbell3607 Sonic was great in the 90's and then the game started to decline in the early 2000's, and in the late 2000's and early 2010's it was so bad you forgot it was so good in the 90's
@@emmanuel8538 👍👍👍👍and as a Knicks and Sonic fan....i thank you for this😂😂
“Which is why what’s about to happen still makes me want to swallow my own eyeballs.” 😂😂😂
Seth, you are TOO funny. Love you and all of you at SB Nation :-)
The newyork knicks to basketball are like the Toronto maple leafs to hockey. Over priced tickets. Over paid players and not a chance in hell of winning a championship😂😂😂
at least the leafs can make the playoffs.... and promptly choke in the first round lol
@@dadaluma13 Thank God Dolan doesn't care enough about the Rangers to meddle in their affairs like he does with the Knicks.
As someone from Toronto I couldn't agree more
There's no way in hell Leafs tickets to watch a mediocre team should be costing more than Raptors tickets with legitimate playoff contenders (keep in mind as of this writing this is after Leonard left)
@@dadaluma13 lol
Knicks fans should be chanting “Fire Dolan” even though you can’t fire the owner, but honestly that’s the only way to save this franchise.
Phoenix gotta do the same with Sarver
They have chanted it, and Dolan nearly banned them from MSG. Dolan is such a bum.
Give Isiah credit for Channing Frye as well. He went on to be a key bench player in the Cavs 2016 championship.
Knicks got the Clippers curse like a bottle of Kool-Aid. 🤣🤣🤣
If Dolan was to ever sell the team, only a FEW, VERY few people could even cough up 5+ BILLION or even more...... and that's just this year. Sports teams are getting more and more valuable each and every year.
Dolan’s never gonna leave have fun Knicks fans
One has to realize that the Knicks' franchise includes the Rangers, MSG, and their RSN.
Painful to relive the past 20 years in under 20 minutes, as a native New Yorker and a fan who remembers watching the ‘73 championship season as a kid and thrilling to Bernard King’s shooting star in the early ‘80’s.
“Ewing succumbed to his injuries”
Isn’t he still alive? And like coaching George Mason or something?
Georgetown, his alma mater.
Succumb doesn’t necessarily mean dead.
This is why you should read a couple of hours a day, you dumbos. That comprehension level is depressing.
Despair Ik what’s even more disappointing is he has 47 likes
How did this idiot get likes lol
Knicks logic: Let's trade our All Star Powerforward so we can sign four power forwards.
He was injured, Not a great idea to pay top $ to a player coming off an injury
As a lifelong Knicks fan, I only managed to make it about 7 seconds into the video before I started sobbing
I'm not even a Knicks fan and I hate James Dolan
This is the most funniest tragedy in the world...Never change, Knicks!
That "99 championship run .... Sprewel was my dude 👍
That was such a great run. Too bad Ewing got injured.
2019
Nets: We got KD and Irving!
Knicks: We didn't want them anyway....
I don’t want a player who’s injured n another Stephon Marbury
@@slapshot68 KD can shoot he might lost his explosiveness but his scoring will always be there.
@@slapshot68 Oh I didn't realize Marbury had been the starting PG on a championship team. Silly me and my bad memory.
Christian Ramirez look how Kyrie is doin now, he’s out for god knos how long n already I’m hearing rumors bout him being unhappy
XRenimages who’s KD
painful to watch .... but very well made.
You could do an entire episode on how Dolan screwed Donnie Walsh, what a disaster that was.
Who would hire such a horrible GM ever again? Oh the Twolves 😂
KuKuKlock123 As a Twolves fan. Your not entirely wrong.
yep & see where it's got them :)
"That Steph Curry guy looks alright, but what about Johnny Flynn?"
Dan Snyder and James Dolan are cut from the same cloth I guess. Basically take an ideal hopeful situation and find a way to ruin it. 🤦🏾♂️
Raymond Smith At least Dan Snyder isn’t a full blown ass whip. James Dolan is terrible all around.
Raymond Smith same with Sarver
@@theman8034 Snyder Only stopped major meddling after the fans threatened to revolt.
I wanna see you do one of these on Doug Pederson's Eagles. From Super Bowl champs to a 4-11-1 season, head coaching firing, quarterback change and rebuild three years later. I say this as a Birds fan.
Considering where y’all team is today is that vid necessary?
@@matthewforbes2969 Not anymore I guess
That won't be needed. The Eagles are now back in the Super Bowl.
@@coruscant100 Or it could be like the Bucks collapse they did, since they did mention that the Bucks won the chip in 2021. (Or something like that.)
That loop at the end of the vid made me cry as a Knicks fan😭
And now they're 4th in the East as Dolan took a step back, FINALLY understanding after decades of failure that "hey maybe I don't know much about basketball" and let actual basketball people handle the basketball aspect of the Knicks franchise.
Only for them to lose to the Hawks, and this year they missed the playoffs. The hope and letdown cycle continues.
This was so accurate, you did a great job with this, that you deserve an OSCAR nomination and win. It's rough being a KNICKS FAN. Signed KNICKS FAN FOR LIFE. BUT I AM CHRISTIAN FIRST, SO I AM GOING TO KEEP PRAYING FOR GOD TO SAVE THE WORLD AND THE KNICKS.
I stopped being a Knicks fan after Van Gundy left. A friend of mine stopped being a fan when they traded Bernard King. This team is perpetually doomed. It's unfortunate. The organization has no loyalty to any of there players. None. This is why the Knicks will never get another ring. GOD is always GOOD !
Why does his “makes me want to swallow my own eyeballs” line make me laugh so hard?
This team needs part 2 and possobly part 3!
Gotta come back to this after the pick swap the Knicks did for Carmelo turned into Jamal Murray who became a driving force in helping the Nuggets to their first ever Finals.
I’ll never forget the 1994 NBA Finals. The Knicks held a 3-2 lead going into Houston and chocked in Game Six. Then Game Seven. That was their last real chance at a title. 1999 was a fluke and they were never going to beat San Antonio in the Finals that year.
Liquor is to the left, Knicks fans.
You'll need it.
I loved using this team in NBA live 99. Sprewell and Houston were unstoppable on the wings.
"No more Dolan!" needs to be the fan's chant.
Knicks should tank for Zion.
MineMuppetsBro yooo chilll
They tried lol and even if they got him, they would have flipped him for the AD
@@YankeesFan0620 bruh
Meh, they will find a way to somehow screw them up. Or they will use the 1st overall pick on Daniel Jones
@@YankeesFan0620 r/woooosh
Who's here now when the Knicks are now playoff bound and have their first winning record in almost a decade
Only to trip over their own shoelaces come the postseason.
Say less.
Let's just hope RJ Barret Pans out... If not Steven A Smith is going to commit suicide
Bro rj Barrett is just looking ok there is no signs of him becoming a superstar
@@josesemino8284 its his first season u can't tell yet
@@yourhomie7568 LeBron did better on his 1st season Blake Griffin did Carmelo did Wade did Luka did if I keep going I'm gonna end up mentioning about 200 players I'm a Knicks fan and getting tired of what this organization is doing we can't even pick right draft night and if we do we end up trading them
@@josesemino8284 trae young didn't curry didn't kobe didn't all these stars wasn't good in there first year but they got better stop expecting a star out the gate some players aren't like that
Steven A Smith committing suicide is a bad thing how?
The Knicks haven't been relevant for the vast majority of my adulthood. I don't wanna hear about them again until they start looking like a decent operation for once.
I don't like basketball, but I do agree with you getting fed up with the Knicks. Might as well be the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns and Cincinnati Bengals of the NBA all in one.
I guess a lot of you don't remember back in the late 70s early 80s when the Knicks were only bad because they didn't have great players
@@yell0wberry I know they were bad when I was a baby and eventually became playoff regulars again after Patrick Ewing got going. That's when the Knicks were really worth watching. Not so much these days.