When I read the title I thought it was referring to the current Rockets team... minus the back to back champions part. The modern day Rockets definitely deserve their own video
Ehhh.... I'm from Houston and trust me, I think that would be unwarranted. A very short peak, coupled with no real tangible success other than regular a buncha season wins. This team didn't do anything in the postseason - they made the WCF a couple of times... big deal. They shouldn't have even been there in 2015 imo. Weren't serious championship contenders in anyone's mind until about 2018 (The Cp3 season) and we all know how quickly those championship aspirations disappeared. No finals appearances - not a true collapse. Plus someone made a good point that they're still in playoff contention this season (for now).
Damn Houston, all you had to do was get back to the Finals in '96. The back to back defending champs versus the previous 3-peat champs with Jordan back full time could have been epic.
@@somregularguy hakeem was a huge generational center...dude had handles and was fast as a wing guard...we see lots of fast hybrid centers due to his influence like dirk, jokic embiid etc in fact dirk constantly said hakeem was his idol growing up in germany
Refs always swallow their whistles at the end of games. As long as it's not blatant it'll probably be allowed. And that transcends to all levels of the game. When I played in high school, if it ever came down to the last possession, our coach told us: "if the ref is looking at you be smart, but you can still get away with most things, if the ref isn't looking at you, do whatever you want."
@@eddixon2015 okay and that was blatant. It's that approach that can ruin a great game that was played differently all the way up until the end. All of a sudden the last few seconds we're watching the WWE. Thankfully they've started to get away from that approach the past few years. Especially in college which makes college all that much more enjoyable
Welcome to the 1990s NBA. The paint was a war zone back then. Power forwards really put the emphasis on "power". Charles Oakley, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis, Shawn Kemp, Malone, Rodman. The centers were just as physical: Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Mutombo, Mourning....hell, Hakeem was a borderline "finesse" center back then and he could mix it up with the best of them.
Collpase Series idea 1. Derrick Rose's bulls 2. The 2012 Detroit Tigers 3. 1999 Denver Broncos 4. Sacksonville Jaguars one quarter away from the superbowl to worst team in the nfl in three years(2018) 5. The 2011 Texas Rangers(lost back to back world series)
The Bulls one can be summed up with "They couldn't beat LeBron" LeBron bounced them out every time and then of course Rose got hurt and that's all she wrote. Noah was never more than a pretty good Center (yes, I know Bulls stans that he was in award competition but I'm talking consistent All Star numbers to be considered good) and other than Rose they just never had the pieces to match up to LeBron or Boston or the Heat. You could maybe make a video if they made a Finals run but they didn't soooo it's pretty cut and dry why they fell apart.
Rose's Bulls never really accomplished anything noteworthy except a #1 seed and ECF. Those Tigers teams seem intriguing but we all know its because no bullpen. 1999 Broncos wouldnt be interesting because its mainly due to no QB and Davis got hurt. Jaguars were basically a fluke team in 2018 so even though they were a quarter away from SB, they just happen to win 2-3 games after going 10-6 and everyone knew they couldnt maintain. Those Rangers team seem intriguing as well.. So only 2 out of 5 items on ur list is worthwhile doing. But its hard to do for baseball since baseball is more of a crapshoot once you are in the playoffs to begin with. The worst team can beat the best team in any given series.
Other ideas - 2015 Denver Broncos 2015 Kansas City Royals 2014 San Francisco Giants 2005 Chicago White Sox 2008 Philadelphia Phillies 2006 Chicago Bears
The West is just stacked. Not counting last year, when they didn't play a full 82, going back to 09-10, 45 games wasn't enough to get you in more than half the time. And in 09-10, you needed a 50-win season to punch your ticket. Part of it has to do with teams who were tanking just giving up free Ws, but the West has been the stacked conference for a looooong time.
As a native Houstonian, this one hurts. But thank you for making it. I was in HS when the Rockets had their championship window. I loved that 94/95 team and that era of Rockets basketball. It was perhaps the best era in Houston sports since Luv Ya Blue. The city doesn't have much of championship pedigree like an LA or Boston. But this was a tough blue collar team that embodied the Houston spirit. I always wondered what would have happened if the Rockets didn't trade their young talent for Barkely, but tried to add other young pieces like SA always did with Duncan.
Super insightful and I absolutely agree with everything you said. Always a strong bit of "what if" for the late 90s; I'm just glad Cassell ha still continued to find some success as it relates to basketball. I was hoping they'd bring him in to replace Mike D and bring on Mad Max as one of his assistants (or at least have him as their social media director 🤣)
San Antonio got lucky. David Robinson aas injured and missed a whole season. The Spurs went from a first place team to bottom tier team and they won the draft lottery. They used the pick to draft Tim Duncan.
@@Flamingbro69 but that wasn’t a real collapse tho. Yea they weren’t the same, but they only missed he playoffs once. They were just stuck in the middle of the pack in the western conference with Kobe shooting out their games. If they traded a few other people and they went it like the worst team in the NBA, then that’s different
The rockets really fell apart three times in 20 years. Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley - 1996-2000, Tmac/Yao/Mutombo - 2004-2010, Harden/Howard/CP3/Westbrook - 2013-2020
I was going to say TECHNICALLY you could collapse this all the way to present day as they still don't have a title since 95. Kinda like they said about the Knicks collapse. A continual cycle of hope and let down.
Getting Barkley WAS falling apart when you rely on an inside-outside motion and 3-ball game. We'd have weathered it for 2-3 years if we had kept Horry.
And spent that entire time winning the second most games in the NBA behind only the San Antonio Spurs. The Rockets win a lot more than they don't and most teams go through much longer rebuilding processes than they do.
@Aakash Don't forget about 86-91+ after the demolition of the Twin Towers; Drug Suspensions; bad trades (Joe Barely Cares, Sleepy Floyd, etc.), and poor draft choices. They left Hakeem on an Island, so he went nuttin (as he did in 86) playing great in playoffs those years, and no one noticed cause they couldn't get out the West, sometimes the first round due to how much poor talent they had. That was almost a decade wasted by Dream by the time he made the finals in 94. . If that team would have stayed intact/and did great trades for Sampson at the time. Olajuwon would have had 2-6 champion ships by 1994.
They were trying to recapture that magic. At least they kept trying to win now and make moves. Utah was exceptionally good and time had caught up to Houston. I think they did just about as well as they could of but their window had closed.
This one is great, really examines how to much veteran experience isn’t necessarily a good thing, there needs to be and equal balance between young and old players to win a championship
You also need the right combination of veteran players. Adding Barkley didn't ultimately work, but I could see the logic behind it. I knew from the start that the combination of Hakeem, Barkley and Pippen wasn't going to work.
@Fries it would have been cool as it was pretty much Hakeem’s last hurrah and he didn’t do as well after 96-97. He had slowed down a bit but was still a force. I would still take the Bulls in 6 though.
@@nonamewillbegiven Those were low post power players (Ewing had some skill but his style was mostly powering his way inside as well) the Bulls usually knew how to guard them effectively. Much different story going up against a skilled post player.
Kemp and George Karl forced themselves out for more money, Vin Baker was an alcoholic and they failed to supplement the roster around Gary Payton and got lucky Milwaukee was idiotic enough to give them Ray Allen for Payton.
They did have moments where they underachieved losing to the nuggets and the lakers in 1995. But 1996 was their chance and almost coming back from a 0-3 lead vs Chicago. Outcome would've been different If nate mcmillian had played and karl had earlier put Payton on Jordan
Yep. Hakeem was still Hakeem, but Horry made the game plan function. No other swingman could elevate to stop him, and no 4 or 3 could stay with him near the perimeter.
Losing maxwell was the 1st flag also trading their core pieces for barkley which I dont blame houston for doing since they were trying to compete for the title and make their ceiling better
You should do the collpase of Houston as a sports city in general Houston Astros from world series champs to disgraced cheaters Houston Texans from up 24-0 and 3 quarters away from the Superbowl to one of the worst teams in the NFL and all their stars want to leave Houston Rockets from one game away from the NBA finals to having CP3 get injured, and having their franchise player abandon them
Still insane that the Rockets were the most injury-riddled team in NBA History. Even after this the Ming-McGrady era one of them was always injured. Game 6-7 of the 2018 WCF CP3 was out. Rockets seem to never catch a break with them
andy hoops an nba youtuber did a video a few years ago about players whose careers were cut short due to injuries and no joke over half that list was rockets players
That was predictable and predicted. I said as much a hundred times back in the day. Ming and McGrady were both slow and flat-footed; which typically equals injury. I remember reading an article in the Houston Chronicle soon after the T-Mac era that discussed his problems touching his toes and flexibility. That's death to a pro athlete in a ballistic sport. Ditto with Barkley. Adding to that, with two slow guys on the court like T-Mac and Yao, the other three players would have to work themselves to death to get anything done. And they did.
I felt that ending like a punch straight to the feels.. me and the fam had just moved to Houston from Mexico and it was a delight watching the 🚀 win their back to back championships.. what an era 👏
I only ever did bc of the first NBA Street since they were on the same teams on the PS2 version. The GameCube version updated and put Hakeem on Toronto.
It’s amazing to me how many “Collapses” Sam Cassell was part of. First the Rockets, then the Bucks (can’t wait for that Collapse episode) and then the Timberwolves. Very unfortunate.
Very interesting career for Cassell. He won titles in the first two years of his career with the Rockets, then won a title the last year he played in his career with the Celtics.
@@dionzervos3306 lollll i wouldnt go that far they were one of the best offenses of all time and were one game away from the finals thats a lot better than most teams
The 95 Rockets should send a Thank You Card annually to Charles Barkley for missing 3 of 4 free throws down the stretch in regulation, overall 1-6 from the free throw line, while scoring only 3 points in the 2nd half and overtime in Game 5 of the WCSF. The Kiss of Death should be a footnote, because the Suns lost that series in Game 5, not Game 7.
That was my team in the 90s as a kid because of my Top 2 Favorite Players All-Time Clyde Drexler & Hakeem Olajuwon. Rudy T was a great coach in the 90s as well. They definitely were an aging team though after the 95 NBA Championship, but were fun to watch with their low post threat & spreading the floor for The Dream to operate & open looks for 3.
Rockets end every downfall with that roach mentality. After the 90s they got Yao, after the 2000s they got harden, after the 2010s they got Christian Wood. The roach keeps coming back.
Good vid, glad to see some indepth discussions about these Rockets. I remember watching them as a kid, Hakeem was the man! After the 95 championship they just got old and run down. There was a bunch of injuries etc and adding an older Barkley didn't help at all he was way past his prime, that wasn't a big 3, in name but not in game.
A potential suggestion for a future collapse video: "How Jeff Fisher took the Tennessee Titans from 1 yard short of a Super Bowl victory to prolonged mediocrity and underachieving."
I never followed the NFL that closely and not at all since 2015 but I dont understand how that guy kept a job that long. he had so many sessions 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 just over and over again and he just kept coaching lmao
@@cjvaye99He was one of those coaches where his ability to coach ebbed and flowed wildly. He was willing to get risky with special teams in ways others werent in order to win games which showed how good/bold of a coach he could be, and seemed to dig talented players up out of nowhere and made do with some bad overall rosters, but he'd also get pasted by teams at times that weren't his superior in talent and it could be argued only as getting outcoached. He could bring an organization to a level of competitiveness, but couldn't take the next step. He is the argument against accepting your team being good as good enough. He hung around like his teams hung around.
Except we know how the rest of the story goes. Yao is drafted, rockets ascend and ultimately fizzled out like the challenger because of injury… and one more time in the James Harden era for good measure.
I love these videos and the music thats played cause it fits it and how the ups and downs of teams are a thing and I didn't really get to see how they fell off like that. Its a fact and sad to see how these things play out and you get to see that its always a bit of everyone that makes the fall happen.
@@samortmann5003 Don’t forget the: Cardinals after Super Bowl 43 Patriots after winning Super Bowl 53 Falcons after blowing a 28 point lead in Super Bowl 51 Texans after blowing a 24-0 lead in the 2019 Divisional Round Spurs after winning the 2014 Finals Cavaliers after winning the 2016 Finals
"Malone's pick" as depicted by him walking around from the top of the key out past the arc while holding a defender. Seriously I know replay wasn't as big back then and everything but how was that not called for an Illegal Screen?
I know why refs swallow their whistles in crunch time but that one was just atrocious,that wasn't a screen that was the A train heading for harlem judging by the distance malone carried drexler
You didn’t read the title of the video. This entire narrative is based after their championships. And Thorpe wasn’t on the second championship roster so their was no need to bring him up, that’s why Clyde Drexler was only briefly mentioned
@@pzooka They didn't even show a pic of Thorpe at the beginning of the vid while there was one of everyone else (including Maxwell) which is what I think the OP is referring to.
Great vid. We need some new ones! Detroit Tigers collapse, legion of boom collapse, Boston big 3 collapse, Reggie Miller untitled, Dan fouts untitled, LT untitled
This video made me want to watch one on Stevie Franchise. That career fizzled out so fast, and right at the time the hand checking rule change favored guards. Anyone who says Steve Nash won those MVPs because of the rule change gotta explain why Steve Francis was out of the league at the same time
The call at 6:18 sounds like someone sneaked up behind the announcer and stabbed him while he was distracted by the play. "Stockton - open - threeee - HYAAAGHH"
Bittersweet ending to this episode. Usually (and obviously) these episodes are pretty dour due to teams falling out. But this one wraps with a nice narrative conclusion to the themes of the championship teams. Well done.
Great video as always! Collapse is one of my favorite series you all do! I am not sure if you read the comments but I would love to see a video on Ted Stepien and his poor management history. Thanks for putting out such great content!
Just me who thinks they could do something called “The Rise” and talk about how the warriors went to 5 straight finals, chiefs rise to the super bowl stuff like that ? Just me
@@coopercook216 I think he’s talking about fumbled with the trades they made, we would have seen Houston vs Chicago in the finals. What you’re talking about is a better topic though. Portland offered Houston their 1st round pick and Drexler for Ralph Sampson. Houston could have had Olajuwon, Drexler , and Jordan. I’d say they definitely fumbled there as well, what’s the situation you’re referring to?
@@wallacepemberton932 Jordan and Hakeem are from the same draft class I thought he was talking about we fumbled on the opportunity to have Jordan instead of Hakeem
@@coopercook216 I know, did you read my entire response? I said I knew what he was talking about, but I found the topic you thought he was addressing was a more interesting topic. Y’all could have had Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler. You initially responded to him with “you don’t know the situation we were in at the time.” That’s what I was asking you about.
@@fullweezy3553 people like to say that bulls won with pistons because of detroit age but they were before 30, for basketball player it's prime of carrer
I was 14 going on 15 at the time of the Barkley trade and I remember being extremely excited about him coming. Now looking back on it I wonder what if we kept Sam and Big Shot Bob.
8:39 - Actually, I have to agree with Scottie. I blame the Offense more so than him, if you take a look at his stats, he was just as efficient as he was his last year with the Bulls. He was just a 3rd option on the Rockets compared to being a 2nd option on the Bulls which is why his ppg dropped.
Whoever runs and produces the content on this channel is very good! I've only watched this one and part 1 of the Cleveland Cavaliers video and they have been amazing
MY Rockets have been a solid team since the championship, always in contention and getting All Star talent and coming so so close to winning it all, but just can never quite get over the hump to win that Championship. But I’ll never give up on the dream that one day, we will finally reach the top.
Houston had some pretty good runs after the back to back championship era. There was the Stevie Franchise era The Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming era and More recently the James Harden era where he won an MVP, eight straight playoff appearances, and three straight scoring tittles. The Rockets will get back to greatness again. I believe.
You could also do a collapse on them from the 80's after going to the Finals in 82 and 86 and then the collapse that lasted until Rudy T. became coach and I'm still waiting on a collapse episode of the James Harden Rockets beginning with the season following their 2018 WCF run and ending with blowing it all up earlier this past season.
Another great episode. I would like to make a few suggestions for future episodes: the 2000-2001 Milwaukee Bucks, the 1999-2000 Portland Trail Blazzers, the 1997-1998 Utah Jazz and the 2008-2009 Denver Nuggets.
"They rebuffed the name Choke City and instead became..."
Me, reading what's on screen: Title Town
"...Clutch City."
Me: oh
Didn’t Detroit claim the name “Title Town” for the success of the Red Wings?
@@fruitbythefoote nah thats Hockeytown
@@fruitbythefoote title town is GSW
@@tombstonejones9581 there’s is dub nation
Isn't Green Bay title town? I mean not now but during Lombardis time they were considered Title Town
Great to see Kenny Smith, Barkley, and Shaq all in the same episode.
No EJ though.
Eddie Johnson!
No, Ernie Johnson
No Ernie
Earvin Johnson!
When I read the title I thought it was referring to the current Rockets team... minus the back to back champions part. The modern day Rockets definitely deserve their own video
I agree and so does Aaron Rodgers a detailed video explaining how shitty he is in the playoffs LOL
@@rashadpenny826 Aaron Rodgers is mathematically good in the playoffs lol. His defenses on the other hand....
They have to officially collapse first. Like they might still make the playoffs this year.
Ehhh.... I'm from Houston and trust me, I think that would be unwarranted. A very short peak, coupled with no real tangible success other than regular a buncha season wins. This team didn't do anything in the postseason - they made the WCF a couple of times... big deal. They shouldn't have even been there in 2015 imo. Weren't serious championship contenders in anyone's mind until about 2018 (The Cp3 season) and we all know how quickly those championship aspirations disappeared. No finals appearances - not a true collapse. Plus someone made a good point that they're still in playoff contention this season (for now).
@@jdm2339 "how quickly those championship aspirations disappeared" they were up 3-2 on the KD warriors before CP3 went down
Damn Houston, all you had to do was get back to the Finals in '96. The back to back defending champs versus the previous 3-peat champs with Jordan back full time could have been epic.
Dumbass Rockets GM didnt bring any power forward to the table.
How they got whooped by Kemp and the Sonics like they did basically every year
They felt the loss of otis Thorpe the most that year
@@ihooptvchannel521 Who was never mentioned once in this video!
Where the hell is Seth anyways?!
96 Sonics were incredible strong.
One of the best you’ve written Ciara! Superb.
I think it's Clara
@@Aryeh487 Actually, it's spelled Qlara.
What happened to all the comments. Is this simp nations doing?
Well either CYMotorsport supports censorship or Secret Base does
@@Aryeh487 what do you think about what happened?
I hope people remember Hakeem for how dominant he was in his prime, not after he got banged up. He was unstoppable in those championship years.
Too bad he wasn't unstoppable his other 16 seasons
Yep he was unstoppable, considering that he only started playin
at UH so he was a freak in that it was all
Natural ability
@@melvynsngltn27he was for the most part, just never had the supporting cast his peers did, if he had a good team he would taken some rings from MJ
Yeh he went to the Finals in 86' only to fall to the Celtics.
@@somregularguy hakeem was a huge generational center...dude had handles and was fast as a wing guard...we see lots of fast hybrid centers due to his influence like dirk, jokic embiid etc
in fact dirk constantly said hakeem was his idol growing up in germany
That was definitely more of a bearhug than a pick
Watch some of those close Celtics/Bulls battles. Some of those picks to set up game-winning shots are like, full 2-hand shoves.
Refs always swallow their whistles at the end of games. As long as it's not blatant it'll probably be allowed. And that transcends to all levels of the game. When I played in high school, if it ever came down to the last possession, our coach told us: "if the ref is looking at you be smart, but you can still get away with most things, if the ref isn't looking at you, do whatever you want."
@@eddixon2015 okay and that was blatant. It's that approach that can ruin a great game that was played differently all the way up until the end. All of a sudden the last few seconds we're watching the WWE. Thankfully they've started to get away from that approach the past few years. Especially in college which makes college all that much more enjoyable
Yes it was. Refs robbed us of a great game 7, chances are Utah would of won though
Welcome to the 1990s NBA. The paint was a war zone back then. Power forwards really put the emphasis on "power". Charles Oakley, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis, Shawn Kemp, Malone, Rodman. The centers were just as physical: Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, Mutombo, Mourning....hell, Hakeem was a borderline "finesse" center back then and he could mix it up with the best of them.
Beef History: Cal McNair vs. A functional franchise
I'm not a Texan fan but this should be top comment on this thread.
Beef History: Bill O'Brien vs smart trades
The whole McNair family versus a functional franchise. His Dad stunk too, though the sons odor is more putrid.
Another beef history: Serena Williams vs the Umpires
Collpase Series idea
1. Derrick Rose's bulls
2. The 2012 Detroit Tigers
3. 1999 Denver Broncos
4. Sacksonville Jaguars one quarter away from the superbowl to worst team in the nfl in three years(2018)
5. The 2011 Texas Rangers(lost back to back world series)
@@chriswolf1089 Im pretty sure he means the Detroit tigers you know the baseball team
The Bulls one can be summed up with "They couldn't beat LeBron" LeBron bounced them out every time and then of course Rose got hurt and that's all she wrote. Noah was never more than a pretty good Center (yes, I know Bulls stans that he was in award competition but I'm talking consistent All Star numbers to be considered good) and other than Rose they just never had the pieces to match up to LeBron or Boston or the Heat. You could maybe make a video if they made a Finals run but they didn't soooo it's pretty cut and dry why they fell apart.
Rose's Bulls never really accomplished anything noteworthy except a #1 seed and ECF. Those Tigers teams seem intriguing but we all know its because no bullpen. 1999 Broncos wouldnt be interesting because its mainly due to no QB and Davis got hurt. Jaguars were basically a fluke team in 2018 so even though they were a quarter away from SB, they just happen to win 2-3 games after going 10-6 and everyone knew they couldnt maintain. Those Rangers team seem intriguing as well.. So only 2 out of 5 items on ur list is worthwhile doing. But its hard to do for baseball since baseball is more of a crapshoot once you are in the playoffs to begin with. The worst team can beat the best team in any given series.
Other ideas -
2015 Denver Broncos
2015 Kansas City Royals
2014 San Francisco Giants
2005 Chicago White Sox
2008 Philadelphia Phillies
2006 Chicago Bears
Andrew McCutchen's Pirates?
45 wins and still no playoffs? Damn, that west conferece was tight.
The West is just stacked. Not counting last year, when they didn't play a full 82, going back to 09-10, 45 games wasn't enough to get you in more than half the time. And in 09-10, you needed a 50-win season to punch your ticket. Part of it has to do with teams who were tanking just giving up free Ws, but the West has been the stacked conference for a looooong time.
Read the western playoff rosters of the late 90s and 00s. Theyre absurd.
48 wins and no playoffs for the 2008 Warriors
50 wins usually gets u in.....The Washington Bullets/ Wizards haven't seen 50 wins since 1979!!!!!!!!!😵🤯😨
@@bryanttisdale2446 and they've made the playoffs 16 times in that span.
Early 2000s Rockets: *Picks up TMac & Yao*
Injuries: "Bonjour."
they choked away 2-0 series leads in 2 different playoff series', quit blaming injuries for everything. Tmac choked
@@777DonMakaveli777 I have yet to read the part on my comment above that says: "Rockets lost playoffs series due to Yao & TMac's injuries."
@@ryanrazo but when Raptors won, they never said Curry choked....injuries was there
Well, just saying if he thinks TMac choked
Reggie Miller Untitled!
Pain.
BCUZ HE SUCKS GO BULLS
That's gonna be a great one
11:24 but you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men... They're stupid
Clara dropping the truth bombs
Yes
As a native Houstonian, this one hurts. But thank you for making it. I was in HS when the Rockets had their championship window. I loved that 94/95 team and that era of Rockets basketball. It was perhaps the best era in Houston sports since Luv Ya Blue. The city doesn't have much of championship pedigree like an LA or Boston. But this was a tough blue collar team that embodied the Houston spirit. I always wondered what would have happened if the Rockets didn't trade their young talent for Barkely, but tried to add other young pieces like SA always did with Duncan.
Super insightful and I absolutely agree with everything you said. Always a strong bit of "what if" for the late 90s; I'm just glad Cassell ha still continued to find some success as it relates to basketball. I was hoping they'd bring him in to replace Mike D and bring on Mad Max as one of his assistants (or at least have him as their social media director 🤣)
Remember when OJ happened during the playoffs that year??
I knew it hurt so much but I haven't rooted for none of the houston teams since last year! Dont have to ask more!
I wish y’all still had those Oilers forreal 😿😿😂
San Antonio got lucky. David Robinson aas injured and missed a whole season. The Spurs went from a first place team to bottom tier team and they won the draft lottery. They used the pick to draft Tim Duncan.
Haven't Houston sports fans been through enough recently?
It all started when our guys cheated in 2017 lol we're still paying for it
@@O_C293 Houston sports haven’t been the same ever since the Astros got exposed for cheating.
Unfortunately, the rest of Houston sports have to pay for the Astros sins
no
The succubus is just getting started
Possibly one of my top 5 shows to drop on UA-cam. Even when sports I don't like are covered I watch these. Salute.
Collapse: The 1992 Cavs, The 1996 Sonics, The 2000 Blazers and The 2010 Suns.
Sonics would be better than this bs choice on paper it made sense but injuries and system was the contributing factor 😉
That would be fire
Honestly, even though the numerous recoveries for the Lakers, I’d like to see a video on the Collapse of the Lakers from 2004-2007
@@Flamingbro69 but that wasn’t a real collapse tho. Yea they weren’t the same, but they only missed he playoffs once. They were just stuck in the middle of the pack in the western conference with Kobe shooting out their games. If they traded a few other people and they went it like the worst team in the NBA, then that’s different
will never forget goran dragić laying the smacketh down on the spurs
The rockets really fell apart three times in 20 years. Olajuwon/Drexler/Barkley - 1996-2000, Tmac/Yao/Mutombo - 2004-2010, Harden/Howard/CP3/Westbrook - 2013-2020
I was going to say TECHNICALLY you could collapse this all the way to present day as they still don't have a title since 95. Kinda like they said about the Knicks collapse. A continual cycle of hope and let down.
Getting Barkley WAS falling apart when you rely on an inside-outside motion and 3-ball game. We'd have weathered it for 2-3 years if we had kept Horry.
And spent that entire time winning the second most games in the NBA behind only the San Antonio Spurs. The Rockets win a lot more than they don't and most teams go through much longer rebuilding processes than they do.
@Aakash
Don't forget about 86-91+ after the demolition of the Twin Towers; Drug Suspensions; bad trades (Joe Barely Cares, Sleepy Floyd, etc.), and poor draft choices.
They left Hakeem on an Island, so he went nuttin (as he did in 86) playing great in playoffs those years, and no one noticed cause they couldn't get out the West, sometimes the first round due to how much poor talent they had. That was almost a decade wasted by Dream by the time he made the finals in 94. .
If that team would have stayed intact/and did great trades for Sampson at the time. Olajuwon would have had 2-6 champion ships by 1994.
@@Nami 0 chips
Imagine being ravaged by injuries, partly because of age, but then you keep making front-office moves to get older! 😂😂😅
They were trying to recapture that magic. At least they kept trying to win now and make moves. Utah was exceptionally good and time had caught up to Houston. I think they did just about as well as they could of but their window had closed.
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@@mrsinister8943 they were the same age though
Steve Francis: Damn And Here I Thought That I Wasn't Going Nuts Hearing That SMDH Houston You Proven Me To Be Correct How Did That Happen
This one is great, really examines how to much veteran experience isn’t necessarily a good thing, there needs to be and equal balance between young and old players to win a championship
You also need the right combination of veteran players. Adding Barkley didn't ultimately work, but I could see the logic behind it. I knew from the start that the combination of Hakeem, Barkley and Pippen wasn't going to work.
"The Rockets love aging stars that are hungry for their first ring"
Relevant
This one of the greatest basketball channels on UA-cam 🦋❤️
Correction: One of the best sports channels on UA-cam
@@natethegreat2408 correction: greatest channel on youtube
@@natethegreat2408 Most of their views come through their NBA videos
"Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion."
Jordan: "and I took that personally."
Jordan still fear Hakeem
Maybe is was Hakeem that feared Mike. Mike waited for them in the final but they never showed up again.
@Fries it would have been cool as it was pretty much Hakeem’s last hurrah and he didn’t do as well after 96-97. He had slowed down a bit but was still a force. I would still take the Bulls in 6 though.
@Fries beat the Ewing Knicks, Daugherty Cavs, Mutombo Hawks, Mourning Heat and Hornets. Nice try
@@nonamewillbegiven Those were low post power players (Ewing had some skill but his style was mostly powering his way inside as well) the Bulls usually knew how to guard them effectively. Much different story going up against a skilled post player.
They should do a reverse Collapse and look at teams (from all sports) that went from terrible to great and look at how they go there.
And Seth should always host them!
Clara didn't even mention Otis Thorpe once in this video!
It’s a shame we never got to see an MJ Bulls vs Hakeem Rockets NBA Finals.
Damn, that would have been spicy.
Hakeem will get 3peat if they go to 96 Finals
The new age rockets are gonna need one of these too
And it all started with CP3 injury
@@jacksonmare683 pain
Rockets just need another big man
Too*
@@joaquinmoreno4857 totally different team now
The Sonics of the 90s deserves an episode considering how that team fell apart after the 96 season.
They were good in 2005
98 was the last good season (05 was an anomaly)
Kemp and George Karl forced themselves out for more money, Vin Baker was an alcoholic and they failed to supplement the roster around Gary Payton and got lucky Milwaukee was idiotic enough to give them Ray Allen for Payton.
They did have moments where they underachieved losing to the nuggets and the lakers in 1995. But 1996 was their chance and almost coming back from a 0-3 lead vs Chicago. Outcome would've been different If nate mcmillian had played and karl had earlier put Payton on Jordan
I remember that Barkley trade. I knew they destroyed the core of the team
Yep. Hakeem was still Hakeem, but Horry made the game plan function. No other swingman could elevate to stop him, and no 4 or 3 could stay with him near the perimeter.
Hakeem Olajuwon Did His Thing As Hakeem Olajuwon Usually Does
Losing maxwell was the 1st flag also trading their core pieces for barkley which I dont blame houston for doing since they were trying to compete for the title and make their ceiling better
This is one of the best episodes. The writing and dramatization worked excellently. Fantastic work with this episode.
You should do the collpase of Houston as a sports city in general
Houston Astros from world series champs to disgraced cheaters
Houston Texans from up 24-0 and 3 quarters away from the Superbowl to one of the worst teams in the NFL and all their stars want to leave
Houston Rockets from one game away from the NBA finals to having CP3 get injured, and having their franchise player abandon them
That's the one I think you should do dont boo me I'm talking recent years here as well since 1997 especially look at the film look at the footage!
Still insane that the Rockets were the most injury-riddled team in NBA History. Even after this the Ming-McGrady era one of them was always injured. Game 6-7 of the 2018 WCF CP3 was out. Rockets seem to never catch a break with them
Prob would’ve won if they didn’t miss 27 threes in a row even with cps injury
andy hoops an nba youtuber did a video a few years ago about players whose careers were cut short due to injuries and no joke over half that list was rockets players
That was predictable and predicted. I said as much a hundred times back in the day. Ming and McGrady were both slow and flat-footed; which typically equals injury. I remember reading an article in the Houston Chronicle soon after the T-Mac era that discussed his problems touching his toes and flexibility. That's death to a pro athlete in a ballistic sport. Ditto with Barkley. Adding to that, with two slow guys on the court like T-Mac and Yao, the other three players would have to work themselves to death to get anything done. And they did.
Yao and T-mac alone made the bulk of that. sadly.
@@arnar5079 You're not wrong.
I felt that ending like a punch straight to the feels.. me and the fam had just moved to Houston from Mexico and it was a delight watching the 🚀 win their back to back championships.. what an era 👏
I'm always happy to hear Clara's voice. She's easily become my new favorite narrator.
I did not remember that the Steve Francis/Hakeem-Barkley eras had a slight overlap.
I only ever did bc of the first NBA Street since they were on the same teams on the PS2 version. The GameCube version updated and put Hakeem on Toronto.
Probably because it was only for one season.
@@silversoulken Plus Jordan Was An Wizard On The GameCube Version Whereas On The PS2 Version He's Available From The Start
This is by far the best series on this channel. Please do more collapses!
“You know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men...” by far my favorite line of this episode. Well done.
Ngl, that video was amazing, one of the best short sports documentaries MY GOD
Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.
It’s amazing to me how many “Collapses” Sam Cassell was part of. First the Rockets, then the Bucks (can’t wait for that Collapse episode) and then the Timberwolves.
Very unfortunate.
Very interesting career for Cassell. He won titles in the first two years of his career with the Rockets, then won a title the last year he played in his career with the Celtics.
ur gonna have to do another one of these for the james harden rockets
She should just save time and cover the Daryl Morey arc as a whole.
We're gonna have to wait a few years to see the true collapse
You have to have a peak for it to be a collapse
@@dionzervos3306 lollll i wouldnt go that far they were one of the best offenses of all time and were one game away from the finals thats a lot better than most teams
Why James Harden never won an NBA title?
In short “in short, they got old”
The 95 Rockets should send a Thank You Card annually to Charles Barkley for missing 3 of 4 free throws down the stretch in regulation, overall 1-6 from the free throw line, while scoring only 3 points in the 2nd half and overtime in Game 5 of the WCSF. The Kiss of Death should be a footnote, because the Suns lost that series in Game 5, not Game 7.
Barkley always missed FT's in the clutch
That was my team in the 90s as a kid because of my Top 2 Favorite Players All-Time Clyde Drexler & Hakeem Olajuwon. Rudy T was a great coach in the 90s as well. They definitely were an aging team though after the 95 NBA Championship, but were fun to watch with their low post threat & spreading the floor for The Dream to operate & open looks for 3.
Rockets end every downfall with that roach mentality. After the 90s they got Yao, after the 2000s they got harden, after the 2010s they got Christian Wood. The roach keeps coming back.
Good vid, glad to see some indepth discussions about these Rockets. I remember watching them as a kid, Hakeem was the man! After the 95 championship they just got old and run down. There was a bunch of injuries etc and adding an older Barkley didn't help at all he was way past his prime, that wasn't a big 3, in name but not in game.
A potential suggestion for a future collapse video: "How Jeff Fisher took the Tennessee Titans from 1 yard short of a Super Bowl victory to prolonged mediocrity and underachieving."
I never followed the NFL that closely and not at all since 2015 but I dont understand how that guy kept a job that long. he had so many sessions 8-8, 8-8, 8-8 just over and over again and he just kept coaching lmao
20 years as a head coach and only 3 seasons with 10 or more wins
@@cjvaye99He was one of those coaches where his ability to coach ebbed and flowed wildly. He was willing to get risky with special teams in ways others werent in order to win games which showed how good/bold of a coach he could be, and seemed to dig talented players up out of nowhere and made do with some bad overall rosters, but he'd also get pasted by teams at times that weren't his superior in talent and it could be argued only as getting outcoached. He could bring an organization to a level of competitiveness, but couldn't take the next step. He is the argument against accepting your team being good as good enough. He hung around like his teams hung around.
As a Rockets fan, the ending of this one got me emotional.
Except we know how the rest of the story goes. Yao is drafted, rockets ascend and ultimately fizzled out like the challenger because of injury… and one more time in the James Harden era for good measure.
@@LeeGHThomas we’ll probably do that with Green and whoever we pick up in the draft next year as well
I love these videos and the music thats played cause it fits it and how the ups and downs of teams are a thing and I didn't really get to see how they fell off like that. Its a fact and sad to see how these things play out and you get to see that its always a bit of everyone that makes the fall happen.
Y’all gotta do a collapse of the Denver Broncos after winning Super Bowl 50
Sacksonville Jaguars too
@@samortmann5003 as a Jags fan idk, it was us getting injured and then we traded everyone.
brock osweiller. that's it.
@@samortmann5003 Don’t forget the:
Cardinals after Super Bowl 43
Patriots after winning Super Bowl 53
Falcons after blowing a 28 point lead in Super Bowl 51
Texans after blowing a 24-0 lead in the 2019 Divisional Round
Spurs after winning the 2014 Finals
Cavaliers after winning the 2016 Finals
@@deathboy126 the Pats haven't collapsed lol
Dropping the Simpsons' classic "it was the style at the time" line was... b-e-a-utiful!
"Malone's pick" as depicted by him walking around from the top of the key out past the arc while holding a defender. Seriously I know replay wasn't as big back then and everything but how was that not called for an Illegal Screen?
it was a different ballgame back in the 90's they were wayy more physical
@@silentstorm5439 I mean, physical is one thing. Malone's one step away from lifting Drexler off the ground and carrying him to the bench.
I know why refs swallow their whistles in crunch time but that one was just atrocious,that wasn't a screen that was the A train heading for harlem judging by the distance malone carried drexler
Today I learned "Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion" was Rudy T and not some canned audio for a video game.
Wish it went on longer, would’ve liked to hear about the Yao Ming Tracey Mcgrady time period too
4:26 "oh no, not kenny smith!"
I’ve been subbed with Secret Base for a while now, and even with that comes a realization.
This is my favorite Clara video. Good job! Keep it up!
Y'all didn't mention Otis Thorpe he was traded to get clyde drexler he was a key piece of the first championship team
You didn’t read the title of the video. This entire narrative is based after their championships. And Thorpe wasn’t on the second championship roster so their was no need to bring him up, that’s why Clyde Drexler was only briefly mentioned
@@pzooka They didn't even show a pic of Thorpe at the beginning of the vid while there was one of everyone else (including Maxwell) which is what I think the OP is referring to.
@@ChrisM07 no one cares
@@nonamewillbegiven8228 Was I even talking to you idiot?
@@ChrisM07 dont care i/diot
Great vid. We need some new ones! Detroit Tigers collapse, legion of boom collapse, Boston big 3 collapse, Reggie Miller untitled, Dan fouts untitled, LT untitled
This video made me want to watch one on Stevie Franchise. That career fizzled out so fast, and right at the time the hand checking rule change favored guards. Anyone who says Steve Nash won those MVPs because of the rule change gotta explain why Steve Francis was out of the league at the same time
andy hoops did a good video on him I recommend watching that
Because Francis had 1/10th the heart Nash had
In Fairness To Steve Francis Himself He Actually Called For That Rule To Be Enforced Cause He Was Not Happy About Getting Smacked Around
The call at 6:18 sounds like someone sneaked up behind the announcer and stabbed him while he was distracted by the play. "Stockton - open - threeee - HYAAAGHH"
I remember first hearing “Big 3” with Robinson, Allen, and Cassell
Bittersweet ending to this episode. Usually (and obviously) these episodes are pretty dour due to teams falling out. But this one wraps with a nice narrative conclusion to the themes of the championship teams. Well done.
I can't wait for the Collapse of the 2017 Philadelphia Eagles.
Maybe in few years it’s still too early for that
Great video as always! Collapse is one of my favorite series you all do! I am not sure if you read the comments but I would love to see a video on Ted Stepien and his poor management history. Thanks for putting out such great content!
Aye, at least we got Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, Steve Francis and very good players after. Hakeem Olajuwon will always be in our hearts in Houston.
Not just in Houston, in the heart of most bball fans that saw him prove he was the best center in a era of great centers.
Ming could've transitioned gracefully into a stretch 5 had he stayed healthy. He was a monster
Just me who thinks they could do something called “The Rise” and talk about how the warriors went to 5 straight finals, chiefs rise to the super bowl stuff like that ? Just me
That’s actually a pretty good idea
Hit them up on Twitter and suggest that
I love this series!! Keep them coming! You can even make even make a series about how a team became a championship team.
Beef history: Bill O’Brien vs. sense
Had they not fumbled we would've gotten MJ vs Hakeem. Just imagine.
Of your saying we should’ve taken MJ than your wrong and obviously don’t know the situation we were in at the time.
@@coopercook216 I think he’s talking about fumbled with the trades they made, we would have seen Houston vs Chicago in the finals. What you’re talking about is a better topic though. Portland offered Houston their 1st round pick and Drexler for Ralph Sampson. Houston could have had Olajuwon, Drexler , and Jordan. I’d say they definitely fumbled there as well, what’s the situation you’re referring to?
@@wallacepemberton932 Jordan and Hakeem are from the same draft class I thought he was talking about we fumbled on the opportunity to have Jordan instead of Hakeem
@@coopercook216 I know, did you read my entire response? I said I knew what he was talking about, but I found the topic you thought he was addressing was a more interesting topic.
Y’all could have had Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler.
You initially responded to him with “you don’t know the situation we were in at the time.”
That’s what I was asking you about.
Fan since 05 season & man it's been a lot of heartbreaks being die hard Rockets, but the wait will be so worth it 🚀🤘🏽
I remember breaking my remote controller when Stockton hit that shot in Game 6. I feel like that was the official end of that short Rockets dynasty.
We need a Rebuild series, watching these is just too sad😭
I agree
I agree, they should start highlighting the teams that fell but rose again
We need a sequel to this soon on Harden’s rockets
Also I was thinking about one on the Falcons soon but that’s when Ryan and Julio are gone
3:36
The Boston Celtics and the Los Angeles Lakers of the 80s say hello.
Wow. No love for Otis Thorpe. One of the few flaws in this episode.
Or Robert Horry. Dude goes from Championship Rockets to Championship Lakers to Championship Spurs and just gets mentioned as “was traded away”
Andrew Fairbanks I believe horry had 7 rings! Which was amazing. Two with Rockets, three with the Lakers, and two with the Spurs.
Idea: Do How the celtics fell from 3 titles in the 80's to missing the playoffs
One word "Bird"
@@redtiger4352 another one...age
Extremely well written. Great job.
As always, top content, love the basketball videos of yours!
33 is not old ! MJ started his second three peat at this age :)
That's what I was thinking the whole time all the bulls were in their 30s during the second 3 peat Soo 30s is not old
@@fullweezy3553 people like to say that bulls won with pistons because of detroit age but they were before 30, for basketball player it's prime of carrer
Uhhh yeah....didn't hurt for MJ to have nearly a year and a half off playing that sissy sport baseball while those other guys kept plugging away.
@@robson1012 wrong Isiah Thomas had his worst season at age 30
@@melvynsngltn27 he’s not wrong, Isiah was 29 when Jordan beat him.
"Can they really do it aga... Oh my God" lmao 😂
This reminded me to watch Clara's BeefHistory masterpiece about Lance Armstrong again. More Clara please, she's awesome.
@@tonyperkis420 Maybe watch her piece about Armstrong and LeMond
@@tonyperkis420 Why? Because you're a sexist, is that it?
this was one of my favorites of all time
I was 14 going on 15 at the time of the Barkley trade and I remember being extremely excited about him coming. Now looking back on it I wonder what if we kept Sam and Big Shot Bob.
I don't think anything really changes give Utah was straight up better than every team besides Chicago those two seasons.
8:39 - Actually, I have to agree with Scottie. I blame the Offense more so than him, if you take a look at his stats, he was just as efficient as he was his last year with the Bulls. He was just a 3rd option on the Rockets compared to being a 2nd option on the Bulls which is why his ppg dropped.
“Highflying Robert Horry” said no one ever
Watch the dunks on the Knicks
Robert "I'm a trash player but I'm dead inside so put me on in the clutch" Horry
LOL Large Shot Robert still claiming he "earned" those rings
He used to be able to fly
@@versatiletitan2466 Still not hot flying
I dunno how y'all do it, but every SB narrator is so top-tier, holy cow. Another great video!
I wish we wouldve been able to see Hakeem vs MJ
No cap, Collapse is the best sports series on UA-cam. It could easily be a documentary series on ESPN.
A competitor to 30 for 30 for sure
Maybe it's her delivery, I don't know, but I think Clara is low key the funniest person at all of SB.
Whoever runs and produces the content on this channel is very good! I've only watched this one and part 1 of the Cleveland Cavaliers video and they have been amazing
Clara's voice is just so good, she could narrate paint dry honestly and it would be insane.
The Stockton shot broke my heart. I really thought that was a special team and that they were going to the Finals to take on Chicago.
That damned Malone moving screen!!! Lol
The fan that nagging Vernon Maxwell how did he knew about Vernon Maxwell stillborn daughter that been a mystery to me since 1994 🤔.
MY Rockets have been a solid team since the championship, always in contention and getting All Star talent and coming so so close to winning it all, but just can never quite get over the hump to win that Championship. But I’ll never give up on the dream that one day, we will finally reach the top.
Maybe after this rebuild we could at least win 1 more
The voice sounds like I'm at my elementary school and my library teacher is about to read me a story. Lol
Houston had some pretty good runs after the back to back championship era.
There was the Stevie Franchise era
The Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming era
and More recently the James Harden era where he won an MVP, eight straight playoff appearances, and three straight scoring tittles.
The Rockets will get back to greatness again. I believe.
You could also do a collapse on them from the 80's after going to the Finals in 82 and 86 and then the collapse that lasted until Rudy T. became coach and I'm still waiting on a collapse episode of the James Harden Rockets beginning with the season following their 2018 WCF run and ending with blowing it all up earlier this past season.
A Young Big Shot Bob Before He Won NBA Championships In San Antonio & LA! (Lakers)
Collapse: Ottawa Senators
Which time?
@@nathanlaughlin9502 2007-present
You have to first be relevant to “collapse”
@@mst3k54 2007 sens had a really good team they went to the finals but lost out to the ducks
You mean 2017 till now.
Another great episode.
I would like to make a few suggestions for future episodes: the 2000-2001 Milwaukee Bucks, the 1999-2000 Portland Trail Blazzers, the 1997-1998 Utah Jazz and the 2008-2009 Denver Nuggets.
More Collapse! Start a new video series called Rebuild.
As a 9 year old Suns Fan in 1995, I am still depressed about the 1995 season. I truly felt like we had it when we were up 3-1.