I was the one who was hit. I tried to find you because someone said you had a video of the crash, but you left early that day, so I've been checking periodically to see if it would get posted. I had a gopro on the front of my bike but the video just shows the bike dropping to the left, sliding until it hits the grass, and then flipping (the GPS data shows I was doing 70 when I was hit). First off, yes you are absolutely right, one week later and I am still feeling it today, and it has been a rough week, but considering everything I think I am doing great. I stepped up for some high quality gear and I think that was a big part in helping (I can't recommend the Dianese Axial boots enough!) Everyone be sure to buy good gear and wear it! For a little background, this was my second time on the track, and first time on this bike at the track (Ninja 400) so I was taking it really easy. In the novice class there is no passing allowed on the inside, and it also isn't allowed on turns 2 & 12, so when I was setting up for turn 12 I figured I was all good to go. The other guy was on an electric bike so I didn't see or hear anything - I was riding and then immediately tumbling on the ground. The other guy apologized and offered to help pay for repairs on the bike. The frame sliders helped so the bike damage isn't too bad. All of the gear except for the gloves are a loss though and will be retired. It took a lot of damage, and I'm just going to buy new rather than take the possibility of riding with compromised gear. It might be an overreaction but after that I'm not inclined to take any chances with gear.
@dtitus81 As an experienced track rider and long time racer this video makes me cringe. From the looks of it, this is the novice group, riding at a sedate pace and having fun. It appears that the rider attempting the inside pass missed the part of the rider’s meeting which should have included the rule not to pass in turn 12 in this group. Even in a race situation, the inside rider might “show a wheel” on the inside but an inside pass is high risk at best. Hindsight is always perfect and it’s most likely that the inside rider committed to putting himself in a situation that he wished would be successful; realizing his complete screwup after the fact. Lots of lessons to be learned. He should have been sat for the rest of the day after that type of behavior. While it’s commendable that he offered to pay for damages, you could have easily been seriously injured or worse. Don’t lose heart and try to get back out there as soon as possible. Work on using your front brake to set direction, hitting your apexes consistently, and consistent throttle to roll with power through to corner exit.
Sorry this happened to you man. Keep your spirits up, this was not your fault and, honestly, I've never seen anyone try a pass like this in novice before. You just got really unlucky. :(
Also, that person that hit would not have made that corner, at that speed and that trajetory that they were on, if you hadn't been there. Even if you were there and they successfully completed the pass, they were going head straight off the outside. They were completely out of control, IOW.
Everybody here is being so polite. The dude who hit you was a complete douche, reeking of small dick energy. I don't even think you can correctly use the word "accident" to describe what happened. Should not be permitted back on the track. He should pay 100% of the cost to fix your bike, plus any medicals.
I grew up racing motorcycles. You can’t take an inside track going into a turn if there’s a rider in front of you. It’s 99% that he will take an inside track on a course. The guy who caused the crash should pay for damages. I’ve never been to a track day but I would hope that they give a mandatory safety meeting. Going over procedures for that track and any first time riders should have to take a class with a test to insure that they understand the rules. What that guy did was wreckless
There are rider meetings, constant reminders, coaches/control riders riding with them on track…guy that torpedoed the 400 was either having a stroke, or just an absolute asshat.
@@mcgoo721 Do you mean like Passing Harleys on the Double Yellow on Tail of the Dragon when they are too rude to pull off at the dozens of pull off spots?
No matter the track day organization you always have these type of riders. That’s why the best gear you can afford is what you should be using. It’s a shame when someone else ruins your entire day, your gear and your bike. Glad he was ok.
I've been down multiple times at Jennings.. one time it was my fault . Cold tires. The other was a rider who shouldn't have been in the intermediate group. he was all over the track. I watched him almost run in the back of someone at t2. I finally told the race direction that he shouldn't be in the group. They said they noticed him. Second to the last session, he went wide at t5-6 and I held my line on the inside of t6. From out of nowhere he was going to t-bone me .All day I had my knee on the deck at that corner and as soon as I touched the front binders I went down. The only good thing that came out of was I turned my bike into a track only bike.😊
Wow was that a stupid crash. Bombing on the inside at such a sedate pace in novice?! What the heck?? Glad to hear that everyone came out OK, but man, to the rider who caused the accident, please do better in the future. We all make mistakes, I've found myself in places I shouldn't be on the track before too; but try to learn from this and never pass like that again!
wow - talk about the classic Rookie mistake from the person that hit him. Never pass on the low line when someone else is closing the window on them. The person that him needs a good talking to. The person who went down was not in the wrong. He needs to learn what an Apex looks like, but hey, it was a Novice session right?
OMG!! That was such a dumb move, being on that side of the entry and could have easily avoided the incident happening by slowing down and slotting between poor innocent guy and you. Sadly this even happens in Inters (middle group) too and all because some novice riders think they know it all after two or three novice rides. Some people just need to stay away from the track, a bit like some drivers shouldn't even be driving. The poor guy learning his craft slowly and managing his own ride, gets taken out by a fool that didn't even listen to the important briefing.
I’m reading the comments after watching the vid and I notice that the teaser scene is a few split seconds before contact is made. You can see the “12” sign. Maybe they should add a “No Passing “ sign just as a reminder. Being torpedoed by a dumbazz really sucks.
@ how cool! I have a ‘22 RS that I love on track. Only downside is that b/c it has tube tires I find that the pressure drops after a track day…I’m hoping to find some non tube wheels. Enjoy and safe riding!
I’ve never done a track day, although I always wanted to. I always thought that if I did do track days, I’d have a dedicated bike for it and it would be one that I didn’t mind if it got smashed up. I see guys out there on $20k+ motorcycles and I think it must be nice to have that much money to throw away.
I did track days for two years in south florida. Mostly novice until the second half of the second year. I saw plenty of this kind of crap. In both novice and intermediate. I got punted exactly like this guy did at a track day in Homestead, in intermediate. Some wanker dive bombed me right at the apex of the corner. Turn 4 or 5, I think. Knocked me off the track. I didn't go down, but narrowly avoided a guardrail. I was in my mid 60's at the time. I quit. Too dangerous and I was getting too old to be going that fast on a motorcycle. I loved it. But it's a very dangerous sport. It's not if you're going to go down. It's when. Don't skimp on your safety gear. Could save your life.
This isn't common on track days. It does happen, but most track day wrecks are single vehicle accidents, too fast into a corner and low side being the most common of all. The idiots on the street have your health in their hands too, and they're driving 3000+ lb machines. This shouldn't have happened, but at least it was a motorcycle that hit him and not a F450 or a semi!
Your 5 times safer at any track day than on the street, period. No drunks, no weedheads, methheads, people on their phones, bro in his F-350 wanting to drag race you, etc . When you ride motorcycles, you must accept a higher risk of injury. If your not willing to do that, bikes are not for you. Sell your bikes and get a set of golf clubs. Do not let videos like this get to you and get you down on track riding or riding in general.
I was the one who was hit. I tried to find you because someone said you had a video of the crash, but you left early that day, so I've been checking periodically to see if it would get posted. I had a gopro on the front of my bike but the video just shows the bike dropping to the left, sliding until it hits the grass, and then flipping (the GPS data shows I was doing 70 when I was hit). First off, yes you are absolutely right, one week later and I am still feeling it today, and it has been a rough week, but considering everything I think I am doing great. I stepped up for some high quality gear and I think that was a big part in helping (I can't recommend the Dianese Axial boots enough!) Everyone be sure to buy good gear and wear it!
For a little background, this was my second time on the track, and first time on this bike at the track (Ninja 400) so I was taking it really easy. In the novice class there is no passing allowed on the inside, and it also isn't allowed on turns 2 & 12, so when I was setting up for turn 12 I figured I was all good to go. The other guy was on an electric bike so I didn't see or hear anything - I was riding and then immediately tumbling on the ground. The other guy apologized and offered to help pay for repairs on the bike. The frame sliders helped so the bike damage isn't too bad. All of the gear except for the gloves are a loss though and will be retired. It took a lot of damage, and I'm just going to buy new rather than take the possibility of riding with compromised gear. It might be an overreaction but after that I'm not inclined to take any chances with gear.
@dtitus81 As an experienced track rider and long time racer this video makes me cringe. From the looks of it, this is the novice group, riding at a sedate pace and having fun. It appears that the rider attempting the inside pass missed the part of the rider’s meeting which should have included the rule not to pass in turn 12 in this group. Even in a race situation, the inside rider might “show a wheel” on the inside but an inside pass is high risk at best. Hindsight is always perfect and it’s most likely that the inside rider committed to putting himself in a situation that he wished would be successful; realizing his complete screwup after the fact. Lots of lessons to be learned. He should have been sat for the rest of the day after that type of behavior. While it’s commendable that he offered to pay for damages, you could have easily been seriously injured or worse. Don’t lose heart and try to get back out there as soon as possible. Work on using your front brake to set direction, hitting your apexes consistently, and consistent throttle to roll with power through to corner exit.
Sorry this happened to you man. Keep your spirits up, this was not your fault and, honestly, I've never seen anyone try a pass like this in novice before. You just got really unlucky. :(
Yeah, that was truly fk'd up move that person made on you. I hope that doesn't spoil track riding for you, but I wouldn't fault you if it did.
Also, that person that hit would not have made that corner, at that speed and that trajetory that they were on, if you hadn't been there. Even if you were there and they successfully completed the pass, they were going head straight off the outside. They were completely out of control, IOW.
Everybody here is being so polite. The dude who hit you was a complete douche, reeking of small dick energy. I don't even think you can correctly use the word "accident" to describe what happened. Should not be permitted back on the track. He should pay 100% of the cost to fix your bike, plus any medicals.
Thanks for sharing. I am scheduled for my first track day this weekend. Definitely scared me. Hope everyone is doing ok.
Just finished my first ever trackday weekend at Jennings. Take it smooth and slow. Do ample laps without touching any brakes at all
I grew up racing motorcycles.
You can’t take an inside track going into a turn if there’s a rider in front of you.
It’s 99% that he will take an inside track on a course.
The guy who caused the crash should pay for damages.
I’ve never been to a track day but I would hope that they give a mandatory safety meeting.
Going over procedures for that track and any first time riders should have to take a class with a test to insure that they understand the rules.
What that guy did was wreckless
There are rider meetings, constant reminders, coaches/control riders riding with them on track…guy that torpedoed the 400 was either having a stroke, or just an absolute asshat.
No passing on the Inside and no passing on turn 12 and the rider did both .
It's a double negative so it cancels out
@@mcgoo721 Do you mean like Passing Harleys on the Double Yellow on Tail of the Dragon when they are too rude to pull off at the dozens of pull off spots?
No matter the track day organization you always have these type of riders. That’s why the best gear you can afford is what you should be using. It’s a shame when someone else ruins your entire day, your gear and your bike. Glad he was ok.
I've been down multiple times at Jennings.. one time it was my fault . Cold tires. The other was a rider who shouldn't have been in the intermediate group. he was all over the track. I watched him almost run in the back of someone at t2. I finally told the race direction that he shouldn't be in the group. They said they noticed him. Second to the last session, he went wide at t5-6 and I held my line on the inside of t6. From out of nowhere he was going to t-bone me .All day I had my knee on the deck at that corner and as soon as I touched the front binders I went down. The only good thing that came out of was I turned my bike into a track only bike.😊
Wow was that a stupid crash. Bombing on the inside at such a sedate pace in novice?! What the heck?? Glad to hear that everyone came out OK, but man, to the rider who caused the accident, please do better in the future. We all make mistakes, I've found myself in places I shouldn't be on the track before too; but try to learn from this and never pass like that again!
wow - talk about the classic Rookie mistake from the person that hit him. Never pass on the low line when someone else is closing the window on them. The person that him needs a good talking to. The person who went down was not in the wrong. He needs to learn what an Apex looks like, but hey, it was a Novice session right?
They should have banned the rider that caused it for a year. What a stupid stupid move...
Guy thought he was Marc Marquez
rule I've always been told in novice and intermediate, and that works, is to pass only when moving away from each other, not toward...
OMG!! That was such a dumb move, being on that side of the entry and could have easily avoided the incident happening by slowing down and slotting between poor innocent guy and you. Sadly this even happens in Inters (middle group) too and all because some novice riders think they know it all after two or three novice rides. Some people just need to stay away from the track, a bit like some drivers shouldn't even be driving. The poor guy learning his craft slowly and managing his own ride, gets taken out by a fool that didn't even listen to the important briefing.
Offending rider should be banned.
I’m reading the comments after watching the vid and I notice that the teaser scene is a few split seconds before contact is made. You can see the “12” sign. Maybe they should add a “No Passing “ sign just as a reminder. Being torpedoed by a dumbazz really sucks.
cool vid, thanks for sharing
I was there too there were too many crashes in novice at 7 and 12
you on a Thruxton? I have a '22 I've taken to track several times. lovely bike.
Yes! A 2017 Thruxton R. It was a lot of fun at the track. Thanks for stopping by!
@ how cool! I have a ‘22 RS that I love on track. Only downside is that b/c it has tube tires I find that the pressure drops after a track day…I’m hoping to find some non tube wheels. Enjoy and safe riding!
They watch marc m. For passing...
I’ve never done a track day, although I always wanted to. I always thought that if I did do track days, I’d have a dedicated bike for it and it would be one that I didn’t mind if it got smashed up. I see guys out there on $20k+ motorcycles and I think it must be nice to have that much money to throw away.
I did track days for two years in south florida. Mostly novice until the second half of the second year. I saw plenty of this kind of crap. In both novice and intermediate. I got punted exactly like this guy did at a track day in Homestead, in intermediate. Some wanker dive bombed me right at the apex of the corner. Turn 4 or 5, I think. Knocked me off the track. I didn't go down, but narrowly avoided a guardrail. I was in my mid 60's at the time. I quit. Too dangerous and I was getting too old to be going that fast on a motorcycle. I loved it. But it's a very dangerous sport. It's not if you're going to go down. It's when. Don't skimp on your safety gear. Could save your life.
no not for me I'm the shady rider!
sorry, but lmao
I won't do track days after this. Leaving my health in the hands of people with poor judgement is a no-no for me.
This isn't common on track days. It does happen, but most track day wrecks are single vehicle accidents, too fast into a corner and low side being the most common of all.
The idiots on the street have your health in their hands too, and they're driving 3000+ lb machines. This shouldn't have happened, but at least it was a motorcycle that hit him and not a F450 or a semi!
@@alpineacres8042yeah…he’s only riding on the street from now on 😂😂🤦♂️
You think this is bad wait until you what's on the public roads with you lol
Your 5 times safer at any track day than on the street, period. No drunks, no weedheads, methheads, people on their phones, bro in his F-350 wanting to drag race you, etc . When you ride motorcycles, you must accept a higher risk of injury. If your not willing to do that, bikes are not for you. Sell your bikes and get a set of golf clubs. Do not let videos like this get to you and get you down on track riding or riding in general.
SoCal Trackdays at CVR, never seen anything like this happen with that org, but they don't really accept any novice off the street either.