Embodiment of Scarlet Devil: The Best One, Apparently

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
  • Embodiment of Scarlet Devil is the greatest game of all time... at least according to one person!
    You can argue many things, but for certain, Touhou 6 is a very influential game, not only in the sphere of Touhou, but in the internet and the WORLD at large. How is this dingus danmaku game from 2002 that barley works on Windows 10 the one to change the trajectory of the universe forever? You gotta watch to figure out.
    Anyway, I told myself that I would fight Flandre for the review... nah, I was too busy editing, but I did get a special surpise that you may see at the very end. 👀 At least I all-shot cleared the game on normal. Let's just say Remilia was as much as a struggle as everyone says she is. Good luck!
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  • @Suwawako
    @Suwawako  7 місяців тому +63

    Happy Halloween 👻 🎃
    I didn't beat Extra stage (or attempt it for that matter) because I was so BUSYYYYYYYyyyy. Lots of homework and lots of time spent editing this project. I really do hope you enjoyed this video.
    I will take it easy next video, as I will review an anime! As for the next Touhou game? Let's just say instead of reviewing the best Touhou game, I'll review what many consider to be the worst. :)
    Anyway go trick and tweet you nerds. Goodnight.
    🎃 Twitter: Suwawako2
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    • @THE_BEE_KEEPER
      @THE_BEE_KEEPER 7 місяців тому +1

      Happy Halloween to you, too! I can't wait to see your next video!
      P.S. I had a bad fall down some concrete stairs recently and got a concussion, but that's alright because I have fumo to keep my brain in check. Speaking of, I'm excited to see what fumo you bought with the money others and I donated on ko-fi!

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  7 місяців тому +3

      Thr fumo i bought thanks to you was the flandre

    • @THE_BEE_KEEPER
      @THE_BEE_KEEPER 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Suwawako flambr fumo get

    • @rank201altaccount7
      @rank201altaccount7 7 місяців тому

      what music did you use at the start

    • @wingedflyingforce5139
      @wingedflyingforce5139 6 місяців тому

      I am surprised you didn't mention seihou project when talking about touhou six, as that game gave ZUN part of the blue prints for touhou six. As a matter of fact I would say the fast elements and some aspects would basically make touhou 6 a seihou skinned seihou. RIP that franchise@@Suwawako
      Anyways, Nice vid!!
      And I wish we had more simplistic touhou games like 6 minus spell cards & later associated gimmicks of the franchise. Perhaps if there was enough support and money invested, seihou could be revived?
      I wish we had seihou fumos.

  • @stupidlysimple
    @stupidlysimple 7 місяців тому +229

    Marisa screamed in horror and said, "Reimu?! You were the embodiment of scarlet devil all along?"
    🔥✍️

  • @MalomainfromDOOMED
    @MalomainfromDOOMED 7 місяців тому +100

    Flandre is actualy a voluntary shut in canonicaly

    • @BurgundyJam
      @BurgundyJam 7 місяців тому +19

      Yeah, the biggest hikikomori of all Touhou

    • @totallyalpharius507
      @totallyalpharius507 6 місяців тому +6

      @@BurgundyJam Kaguya: Finally, a worthy opponent!

    • @HontounoShiramizu
      @HontounoShiramizu 6 місяців тому +1

      Considering she was original only described as locked in the basement and breaking all her toys I would say the new canon info feels kind of like a retcon.

    • @spellposting
      @spellposting 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@HontounoShiramizu i guess you referring to the words in Flandre's EoSD profile, but Flandre never said she was locked in or anything like that. In the extra stage Flandre said she was resting/sleeping/relaxing in the basement for the last 495 years which goes pretty well with her words in the manga
      It is worth noting that Flandre's article in PMiSS had two versions of why is she staying in the basement: she is hikikomori or she is locked. For the first version, i can remember at least one confirmation (besides FDS of course) in Violet Detector, where ZUN literally called Flandre as hikikomori in his comment for Flandre & Byakuren spellcard; That Spellcard name is: 紅星符「超人カタストロフ行脚」
      Also in the profile was nothing about toys, maybe you mean the words about she blows humans up when hunting on them... This profile is pretty weird in my vision, there were words about Flandre not knowing that her meal is humans, but in the game Flandre told the protag that she only saw humans in the form of meal before... Or words about Flandre idolizing her sister, but 3 years later in the interview with Aya she was pretty rude about Remilia... In short, i don't think it's a good idea to pay much attention to a weird and short profile that was written more than 20 years ago over all the information we got later, and even if we accept the version about retcon, that retcon started to go much earlier FDS (In EoSD, i suppose?)

    • @HontounoShiramizu
      @HontounoShiramizu 6 місяців тому

      @@spellposting Couldn't actually find the toy quote so that may be an old translation before I learned the language. My bad.
      On the other hand, in the intro dialogue for EoSD extra Remilia comments that the rain over SDM was likely caused by Patchouli to prevent Flandre from leaving which would be weird if she could leave at any time.
      And as for official works, I consider them semi-canon since while they're endorsed by ZUN characters (and even events) can vary wildly between them. A good example would be the character of Reimu between Forbidden Scrollery and Ibarakasen where she goes from a competent but somewhat lazy to a complete goofball that can't do anything without the help of OG character. To some extend this could be how she's seen from different perspectives, but the way she acts and even her actions vary too much between the two.
      And FDS is often regarded as being even worse than Ibarakasen in term of characterization and story.

  • @Intelligent_Turtle
    @Intelligent_Turtle 7 місяців тому +143

    The Remilia Spear thing is pretty easily infered by that spell card, as it is literally called "Spear of Gungnir" and she lobs the projectlies much like a spear throw

    • @MrZero11111
      @MrZero11111 7 місяців тому +18

      Also in the fighting games she throws very literal red energy spears (which is where the spear design comes from)

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 7 місяців тому

      Does this mean DanganRonpa referenced Touhou?

    • @totallyalpharius507
      @totallyalpharius507 6 місяців тому +3

      Spear THE Gungnir. Just like Maximum The Hormone.
      Engrish. Do you speak it?😆

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому +1

      @@totallyalpharius507 Exactly like how they always randomly add an "of" at the end when they simply want to say "The End". e.g. "'The End'-Ray" becomes "The End of Ray" because funni engrish.

    • @lunariansoup9635
      @lunariansoup9635 2 місяці тому

      @@austinreed7343not likely but same source i guess

  • @supernintendogames1
    @supernintendogames1 7 місяців тому +56

    4:15 there is actually a theory Remilias true intentions with the scarlet mist incident was that she wanted to get integrated properly into gensokyo. The fact her power is manipulation of fate and her relevancy in the later games supports this. Besides I like that more than: “waaaah I’m a vampire and the sun will kill me”

    • @K1llbornbloodbane
      @K1llbornbloodbane 6 місяців тому +11

      It is suggested/stated in some print works, can't remember which ones right now, that she instigated the incident to be the first to get to engage in the recently established spell card rules.

  • @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
    @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313 7 місяців тому +70

    Just wanted to clarify for the confused, Remilia does use something similar to a spear, but its only seen in the fighting games and unlike Flandre's Lævateinn (which seems to be a physical object she can summon at will) it's made of Danmaku energy instead of being a physical object she could hold 24/7.
    In both Immaterial and Missing Power and Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, Remilia uses two different versions of the spear-shaped bullet. 'Certain Kill "Heart Break"' and 'Divine Spear "Spear the Gungnir"'. Both attacks can cut through Danmaku and pierce foes with ease, but "Spear the Gungnir" is not only bigger than "Heart Break" (making dodging it a chore), but its also stronger and faster than it too. In IaMP's story mode she'll use an alternate version of "Heart Break" called 'Second Card "My Heartbreak"'.
    Of course the various artist depictions of Remilia using a spear might actually be her using either "Heart Break" or "Spear the Gungnir" as the size difference between both Spell Cards is pretty noticeable. Although sometimes the spear she weilds in fanart is given very fancy, elegant details to match her personality.

    • @supreme_xenon
      @supreme_xenon 7 місяців тому +1

      More people need to know this

  • @daltonharmon1018
    @daltonharmon1018 2 місяці тому +7

    Reimu: why did you cover the sky with red mist?
    Remi: i want to go outside and touch grass.
    Reimu: just use a fucking parasol
    Remi: oh.

  • @user-vr7sg5cr3g
    @user-vr7sg5cr3g 7 місяців тому +61

    A correction : off is not a mobile game , it's an rpg maker (2003 i think)
    And it was a surprise to see it on a touhou video
    Even more because its one of(f) my favorite game , tied with touhou

  • @koxdd
    @koxdd 7 місяців тому +47

    Well. Remi herself is the first 2hu char i've ever met, this adorable vampire dragged me into the rabbit hole

  • @teddyrichard1488
    @teddyrichard1488 7 місяців тому +13

    Remilia's awesome spear is from the fighting games, specifically her spell card Divine Spear "Spear The Gungnir", where she summons a massive fucking spear and launches it forwards at the speed of sound, completely obliterating anything in its path.

  • @ImmacHn
    @ImmacHn 7 місяців тому +22

    In Th10.5 Remilia does have spears as a sub-skill.

  • @KazmirRunik
    @KazmirRunik 6 місяців тому +3

    17:47 Check out Remilia's IaMP fighting-game official sprite animation for when she uses Spear the Gungnir. The origin of the spear motif is probably more rooted in that.

  • @AriScarlet
    @AriScarlet 7 місяців тому +13

    Touhou 6 and Un Owen was her was how I was introduced to Touhou. The story telling in this video makes me feel so nostalgic. Great Video :)

  • @hamstergum9548
    @hamstergum9548 7 місяців тому +7

    Playing Touhou 6 was my learning course for dodging bullets. I remember starting playing it in September as a beginer who didn't know anything after many attempts in December I managed to defeat Remilia on normal. For a Meiling PTSD it worth it.

  • @triangle2982
    @triangle2982 7 місяців тому +4

    Absolutely AMAZING video. The way you brought the context behind the game development; the lore behind the game; shoot types, and even techniques; characters and all. It's just perfect. I believe that's the best video I've seen about a Touhou game so far. So rich in information.
    I'm not able to play the game in the moment, so I'm trying to understand more about the game watching videos about it, and stuff. And this video was a complete package. I'd absolutely be invested in a series of these detailed videos about Touhou Project games. Incredible video. Keep up the good work!!! ✨

  • @gnome5676
    @gnome5676 7 місяців тому +4

    man some people would be shocked to know how big rumia community is especially where i am in poland and ive BEEN to rumia

  • @Nazrininator
    @Nazrininator 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video! I remember watching these Super Mario 64 Bloopers back in the day. Those are what got me first into UA-cam. Then I got introduced to Touhou, and I quickly became a Touhou fan! I’m now a Touhou fan for 13 and a half years with Cirno’s Perfect Math Class being my introduction.

  • @bearishplane17
    @bearishplane17 7 місяців тому +6

    First and last Touhou game I touched was Touhou 10 and that was in my opinion the best of game i played back in the early 2010s. Now that I am older, I might actually go back to playing it again as well as all the other games.

  • @anthonyrousseau8050
    @anthonyrousseau8050 2 місяці тому +1

    Even tho I love the animation quality of Fantasy Kaleidoscope, I just cannot get past its version of the Scarlet Devil Mansion litterally being Quebec City's Château Frontenac with the Big Ben planted in the middle.

  • @xvincplayerx8
    @xvincplayerx8 7 місяців тому +1

    Love this series man, Great video !
    the way you structure this video is reminiscent of EmpLemon and that's a good way to go. It makes it fun to watch start to finish

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  7 місяців тому

      I am now Suwalemon

  • @ZinfulSD
    @ZinfulSD 7 місяців тому +2

    *point*
    Oh hey, my Young Descendant remix!
    Very poggers for including me!

  • @erenii.
    @erenii. 7 місяців тому

    YEAAAHHH IM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED KOAKUMAS ROLE IN KKHTA I LOVE HER

  • @akiraigarashi2874
    @akiraigarashi2874 6 місяців тому +1

    The ton of covers and arranges are what introduced me to touhou. And of course EoSD has a sizeable impact there too

  • @_utahraptor
    @_utahraptor 2 місяці тому +1

    Finally found a touhou youtuber who isn't straight up cringy. Thanks dude

  • @akeem2983
    @akeem2983 7 місяців тому +1

    For me, the Touhou Koumakyou was the introduction to Touhou (long story short, I found "Bad Apple" music video, googled some info about it, and consecuently found Touhou). I always liked retro stuff and I also completed Undertale and Just Shapes and Beats around the time when I discovered Touhou. I also always loved indie games that deliver a good challenge (Geometry Dash, Super Hexagon, Soundodger just to name a few). It was a perfect fit and after some time spend playing it (poorly), I rocketed into the fandom and even discovered that weird "crazy error" internet meme and the "Yatagarasu" level from Geometry Dash are basically made with Touhou music, which made me realize that Touhou is a great part of internet culture too

  • @bulb9970
    @bulb9970 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video, I like that it’s a mix on both the gameplay and cultural impact. I honestly love EOSD and it’s one of my favorites despite its flaws. It’s such a simple game with the shot types, bullet patterns and lack of gimmicks that’s very easy to replay on a whim. It’s probably the game I’ve replayed the most even though there are undeniably better sequels. I don’t mind the invisible hurtbox since the game is designed around this, and you only start feeling the RNG when you try beating it with no bombs. I know most people recommend starting with either PCB or IN, but if a new player can download the hurtbox mod then EOSD is the best starting point imo.

  • @bassistwithadeathwish7277
    @bassistwithadeathwish7277 7 місяців тому +7

    Embodiment of Scarlet Devil is definitely not my favourite Touhou game, as a beginner PCB and IN are far more to my tastes, but it's the most iconic and important game. Basically all of the characters in the game have had popularity so long lasting after 17-ish years the extra stage boss fight that barely anyone can reach was the effective protagonist of Touhou 17.5. The two mid-bosses without canon names have both been given names and have a reputation of their own right, Rumia whilst not having a major reputation is still pretty well liked I think, and as for Cirno, Meiling, Patchouli, Sakuya, Remilia and Flandre they are all some of the most popular characters to this day. I think it says a lot to how well EoSD sets up the world of WIndows Touhou, even if the gameplay and some of the dialogue itself leaves a little to be desired.

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  7 місяців тому +4

      It a little weak but you gotta respect your elders

  • @czarnakoza9697
    @czarnakoza9697 7 місяців тому +1

    i didnt expect off, one of my favorite games of all time to be mentioned here

  • @Zanmu_Nippaku
    @Zanmu_Nippaku 7 місяців тому +4

    even in video about touhou 6, you can't escape KKHTA

  • @kokodi01
    @kokodi01 7 місяців тому +5

    The Mario part was just straight up MatPat💀💀

  • @witchhatter
    @witchhatter 6 місяців тому +3

    Touhou 6 so far remains the best game for showing someone the basics of the series. Most games since have had gimmicks of some kind.
    (The cherry thing in PCB is fairly unobtrusive, but is still potentially confusing.)
    TMK It's also around the middle in terms of difficulty. The only problem is it lacks the hitbox on focus, but there's a fan mod that adds the flnctionality.

  • @XquizetBlix
    @XquizetBlix 7 місяців тому +2

    God how I love this game
    I don't know why, but it really hits different for me; it's always on my mind 24/7
    Also 18:54 I need those pillows to live

  • @EddieNoon
    @EddieNoon 3 місяці тому +1

    Flandre is such an incredibly recognizable character. Even people who don't know Touhou that well could probably recognize her from her silhoutte alone. it's just the wings isn't it
    Either way, she's great. Also funny how she barely appears, like, EVER, but is still probably one of the most recognizable and popular Touhou girls

  • @mareubondad5005
    @mareubondad5005 7 місяців тому +3

    I played Touhou 6 multiple times now, and haven't completed it full yet.
    The only times I've went far is either Meiling, Patchouli or Sakuya.

  • @3RDplayer
    @3RDplayer 7 місяців тому

    Here you go again. Comparing to Super Mario of which I cannot relate to cuz I never ever played any nintendo game my whole life. XDD
    Joke aside tho! This video is really good. So good that I would even recommend it to my friends that know nothing of touhou.
    Most Touhou introduction videos FAIL to cover the basics and just call out character names without properly introducing them.
    But your video does it, which goes a long way!
    Happy Halloween! 🎃

  • @MysticalLala
    @MysticalLala 6 місяців тому

    Ayyy the cosplay sections with ZUN was from AX 2016 and i was very lucky to have seen him in person and he held the spear i made!
    Forever keeping it because it was a highlight of my life lmao

  • @nyokko36
    @nyokko36 7 місяців тому +1

    Funny enought, Flandre comic of her buying something with Rinnosuke for him to say "That will be 1 million yen" it was what pushed me in the rabbit hole
    Its a pretty memorable game in all aspects (also my first 1cc)

  • @Jamie355
    @Jamie355 7 місяців тому +1

    Great Video!

  • @AnserStar
    @AnserStar 6 місяців тому

    I still love playing Touhou 6! It's so simple yet so charming. Also you can't ignore how iconic it is.

  • @smaug-qs7et
    @smaug-qs7et 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you do a video about sumireko and renko usami cuz they both have the same last name but renko never even visits gensokyo while sumireko comes to gensokyo and comes back to outside world and comes gensokyo again

  • @ougi_rk
    @ougi_rk 7 місяців тому +1

    Remilia has the gugnir spear in touhou 7.5 12.3 (basically all the fighting games.)

  • @Nahmona_Hooves
    @Nahmona_Hooves 7 місяців тому +2

    My personal best is Touhou 7, it was the first one I played, has my favorite song in the franchise (Necrofantasia), and Letty White, and is the only one I have finish... So is special.

  • @rurihime4965
    @rurihime4965 7 місяців тому

    Wasn't expecting Pokémon Battle Revolution music here

  • @thellama1747
    @thellama1747 7 місяців тому

    holy crap i remember smg4 from all those years ago, the nostalgia is insane haha

  • @MasterSonicKnight
    @MasterSonicKnight 7 місяців тому

    i love how everyone talks abt how Starbow Break is one of the hardest spells from Flandre, meanwhile i literally never died to it nor used bombs, spell was always a cakewalk to me, meanwhile i rly struggle against most of her other spells

  • @seireiart
    @seireiart 6 місяців тому

    When you said Touhou 6 is a very influential game, that's a fact.
    Because it's the game that made me love the series way too much.
    oh, and it also made me a fully-fledged Touhou Artist XDD

  • @atwistedb
    @atwistedb 7 місяців тому +1

    15:37 Calling OFF an old french mobile game is the most disrespect I've even seen put onto it.

  • @YuyuHakurei
    @YuyuHakurei 6 місяців тому +1

    The music is also part of the story. Both the titles and the actual music. Like you can know nothing about the series and the music itself can at least tell you all of the environmental story. Plus it has environmental story that is redundant a little through background visuals, enemy types, and colors. Colors were a big thing because at the time Japanese were used to pc 98. Not capable of displaying many colors at all. When it went to windows it went from like 8 to 158 I think the total is. Other story elements were the spell card names. They gave you an idea of what the powers were of the youkai you faced. All of that plus the dialogue actually told quite a bit more story than indicated in the video. The game probably had the most world building ever in a video game at the time. It probably wasn't even a concept that was taught yet for video game writing.
    For the time it was one of the hardest shooting games ever made. Mainly because you couldn't beat the game on easy and normal-lunatic were much harder than most arcade shooters primarily because of the perfection they required compared to arcade shooters. Plus I don't really count some of the arcade shooter difficulty because it was unfair sometimes. Touhou is almost never unfair though. Touhou wasn't made with the intent of taking coins from you. So it was the best balanced hard shooter for the time.
    Zun designed his enemies better than in the PC-98 games. Those games often had nonsensical enemies or enemies too heavily tied to certain game themes. All basic and kinda boring. Touhou 6 added more detail to the enemies and made fairies a main stay enemy for the entire series. Before it was ghosts. So now even the enemies get to be cute girls too. The added detail let you see more clearly what the characters are supposed to look like. Zun always meant for the cute girls moe appeal, but that didn't always come across well in the pc-98. It is one of the only Fantasy shooting games with no science fiction at all really. With organic enemies via fairies, and inorganic magical enemies via traps and those orb things that were backwards in 6. xD
    I mostly stick this relatively well organized wall here for fun really. Sometimes it's just fun to hear what stuff was like for the time that can often be overlooked due to modern tech. Arcade junkies often overlook Touhou's difficulty because it's not unfair like the games they are used to.
    Also Remilia's spear is named in the fighting games. The first one. It's Gungnir Odin's Spear of Death. It mirror's Loki's Spear of Destruction as it's implied that they killed the gods for their weapons. Not all that serious as the Touhou story isn't really power scaling on a truly serious level or anything. Also if you argue with me that Loki's spear is something else, that is a spoiler it can change forms. xD

  • @skyrobot68robot98
    @skyrobot68robot98 7 місяців тому

    koakuma is also my beloved, grah why when you talk about koakuma you talk about KKHTA there are so many great works of koa of her just being the greatest devil assistant whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  • @LancerinCompany
    @LancerinCompany 7 місяців тому +5

    Everyone knows Shoot the Bullet is the best one

  • @EotechGreen
    @EotechGreen 7 місяців тому +1

    Average Suwawako W 😩🙏

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 6 місяців тому +1

    My guy, you are everywhere, lol

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

    18:03 It will never not be cursed that Flan can for some reason use her bow as a sword. Even with magic, that's generally not how that is supposed to work.
    18:55 Tbh, that joke kinda works a lot better if it isn't the punchline. Like that one gag in Touhou M-1 GP where Flan is guiding Remilia through the mansion when it's on fire and Patchouli is going to die. Instead of pointing her in the right direction, she leads her to the pads. Remilia gets mad that the priorities are way off, then proceeds to steal them anyways. It works imo because the punchline is on Remilia and Flan, not "hehe, Sakuya padding".
    20:05 Who also bullies Meiling, yet somehow that aspect jumped into Sakuya's pot in fanculture instead.
    20:56 Flandoor bad, she is carried by her music and her character design.
    21:39 Another wave of "first contact with Touhou through U N Owen" I personally know about is that Windows Year 10000-video.
    22:25 Audiovisually, it gives the "Early Windows-vibes" comparable to certain old Windows OS-versions like XP themselves. That alone is a major draw for relevancy, similar to how PC98 games have the general retrogame feels.

  • @redacted8983
    @redacted8983 4 місяці тому

    15:08 where is this from? like the video itself

  • @Hijiri_MIRACHION
    @Hijiri_MIRACHION 7 місяців тому

    Doesn't Remilia use a spear in the fighting games? There's a "Spear the Gungnir" spell card in IaMP and SWR.

  • @Tuesday-tg2dd
    @Tuesday-tg2dd 7 місяців тому

    25:21 -
    So true ~

  • @yogsothoth915
    @yogsothoth915 7 місяців тому

    Starbow Break is actually pretty easy. It's even got a safe spot, the whole row under the right side of the "n" in enemy.
    "Icicle fall easy mode "

  • @xvincplayerx8
    @xvincplayerx8 7 місяців тому

    Does cookies looks great, does anyone have a list pf good ones ?

  • @Ame-no-Iwafune
    @Ame-no-Iwafune 6 місяців тому

    Cirno was pretty popular even outside fandom before yumemey (sorry if I wrote his nickname incorrectly) and fumos, thanks to IOSYS I guess
    Like, 6 years ago NO ONE knew about fumos outside fandom, they weren't popular and editions were small, even amiami stopped selling them for quite a long at some point, so I bought most of my fumos from ebay

  • @manesterpatchuthorn-dk7bu
    @manesterpatchuthorn-dk7bu 7 місяців тому +1

    yes its my favourite touhou game and its the only one I have as well xd

  • @akumu2625
    @akumu2625 7 місяців тому

    Why, there is... Mtg cards in 19:43, another _universe beyond_ sets again?

  • @PerpetuallyMalding
    @PerpetuallyMalding 6 місяців тому

    14:13 Why is Koakuma considered Chaotic Evil? Is it just because someone needed to fit the slot? Everyone else looks reasonably placed

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      Presumably as a counterpart to the other nameless entity that is on the exact opposite of the chart. And not like it is unwarranted since Koakuma fanons largely range from sesbian lex-memes to being the one truly evil person in the entire IP who is planning everyone's demise. I guess there is just a big market for absolutely insane fanfiction when a western demon shows up and neither the material nor the creator ever elaborate beyond "lol, she exists".

  • @Outside998
    @Outside998 7 місяців тому +1

    Flandre isn't actually trapped. She stays down there because she doesn't need to go out. She can destroy anything, you can't lock her up. She said so herself in an official manga.
    Her being forced to live in the basement was either a missinterpretation or misstranslation. EOSD is full of it.
    Like Cirno's name. It's actually Chirno. Chiruno in Katakana.

    • @supreme_xenon
      @supreme_xenon 7 місяців тому

      When you claim yourself as a Touhou connoisseur but you don't know about this basic lore, how ironic

    • @nomukun1138
      @nomukun1138 7 місяців тому

      It's Italian, that's the way it's spelled. In all the Shakespeare plays with Italian characters (like Romeo and Juliet) they butcher the Italian names because English and Italian swap the "c" and "ch"
      I have no idea why Cirno is Italian

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      The name of Remilia's sister is actually Flandoor 🤓

  • @Animasta5580
    @Animasta5580 6 місяців тому

    I love Th 6

  • @unfunniestman
    @unfunniestman 4 місяці тому

    the subterranean animism in question:

  • @jadebayoba7073
    @jadebayoba7073 7 місяців тому +2

    I think u meant 8

  • @Tom-jg9de
    @Tom-jg9de 7 місяців тому +1

    Tohou 6 is lice spider man 2 (the game) it's the stable game that the series nead to do to be good
    And Tohou 7 with webs of shadow becose its good but nobody remebef it's

  • @AnprimGang
    @AnprimGang 7 місяців тому +2

    you pronounce TOUHOU correctly but CIRNO incorrectly

  • @seki108
    @seki108 7 місяців тому

    I mean, Daiyousei, an unamed character who MAY have gotten a single word in a manga, still has almost always ranked higher than at least half of the named cast. Being the least popular of the most popular bunch still has it's benefits.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      What does "may have gotten" even mean? 😂

    • @seki108
      @seki108 6 місяців тому

      @@lpfan4491 IIRC, there was one dialogue bubble on the panel and three random fairies who may have spoken it, one of which was Diayousei.
      So she may have gotten a single word in in 20+ years or still hasn't said a thing lol

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      @@seki108 She isn't beating the mute-allegations at this rate.

  • @Neimishii
    @Neimishii Місяць тому

    actually remilia did possess a spear in some of the fighting games 🤓

  • @Bravidunno
    @Bravidunno 2 місяці тому

    I've discussed if the popularity of a game or a franchise matters on its quality. Some have told me that the fanworks are just the fans doing the job instead of the game creator. The way I see it, the quality of the series and games isn't the same as that of the fanworks, they're both great in completely different ways. I find the character interactions funny in the canon, but most of the time I can't take the human characters seriously because of how stupidly they act, and there are battle dialogues that make me think that there are conflicts that could've been avoided. The fanworks glorify the characters and their interactions, and the visual quality of the fanworks is so great that the source material now feels bland in comparison. Regarding the writing quality though, it seems they're all on equal grounds.
    Touhou 6 on itself isn't that great of a touhou game (no hitbox sprite, no gimmick, outdated graphics), its quality is outdated by the games that came after, yet it left a huge impact on the fandom, that I believe are driven by nostalgia. They give characterization to midboss characters who do not even have a single thing to begin with except a sprite, and give importance to an extra boss who barely had any re-appearance afterwards (that is until 17.5). The Touhou series lasts for a while, and so does its fandom, and isn't an online game like Overwatch, or a game like Angry Birds that has been shut down by its creator.
    I don't usually have problems with people having various interpretations of a character, but when I do, it's mostly because they flanderize them, and if not the case, they gaslight me into thinking they are something that is more or less astray from what they really are in canon. (Reimu isn't that hostile towards the youkai, it's just that her job as a shrine maiden pushes her into being so)
    If the work in question wants to make clear that it's an alt version of a character, then sure why not, no problem for me.

  • @subzeroeclipse
    @subzeroeclipse Місяць тому

    Touhou 9 6 and 7 💪💪💪💪

  • @tespenkr9924
    @tespenkr9924 7 місяців тому +2

    Patchouli, Meling, Sakuya, Cirno, Koakuma, Remilia and Flandre, and Rumia. This game introduced the most beloved characters in the series.

  • @objectsupr9970
    @objectsupr9970 6 місяців тому

    "The story"
    The two characters with the least lore in the entire windows era, Koakuma (also my beloved) and Daiosei (spelt wrong fuck you): 😶

    • @objectsupr9970
      @objectsupr9970 6 місяців тому

      They don't even have names

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому +1

      Small Demon and Big Fairy.

  • @americaonline3835
    @americaonline3835 7 місяців тому

    fuck Touhou 6 baby!!!!!!! party like it's 1998

  • @emilyzhang4614
    @emilyzhang4614 6 місяців тому

    Hey! I’m that one kid who reads “warriors” and gets the best grades. Be careful who you’re talking to!

  • @AltraHapi
    @AltraHapi 6 місяців тому

    Is the title a Scott the Woz reference?

  • @12DAMDO
    @12DAMDO 7 місяців тому

    while Scarlet Devil is indeed iconic, i think Cherry Blossom perfected the formula
    but nothing beats UN Owen Was Her

  • @Zubster14_
    @Zubster14_ 7 місяців тому +3

  • @IEatHats
    @IEatHats 7 місяців тому

    I wonder how much of a better game Eosd would be had there been hitboxes.

    • @notlol1
      @notlol1 6 місяців тому +1

      I wonder how good EoSD would've been if it had good hitboxes to begin with.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      Meanwhile PCB that would have ironically been much more based if it was more like EoSD like it was in prototype:

  • @clafoutis89
    @clafoutis89 7 місяців тому +1

    Lol i can 1cc lunatic only with reimuA😹

  • @Ciurk
    @Ciurk 7 місяців тому +1

    me realising 5 minutes in its gonna spoil the endings so I have to stop watching cause I haven't seen them yet D:

  • @bleachedwinter897
    @bleachedwinter897 7 місяців тому

    Hello

  • @BamdTheBamd
    @BamdTheBamd 7 місяців тому

    if you need a visible hitbox you probably can't 1cc to begin with
    i don't get the rng complaint. every touhou has at least one pattern that can kill you if it feels like it. this game just happens to have more of those. if anything the randomness is what gives the series its flavour and makes it stand out from other shmups. eosd is even the mushihimesama futari world record holder's favourite 2hu precisely because of said rng
    if you're just going for 1cc then you can just bomb anything remotely difficult and effectively eliminate randomness out of the equation. it's only an issue for lnn for which the games have never been designed in mind with, so criticising rng because it's not suited to an unintended self-imposed challenge makes no sense
    eosd has the most balanced shot types in the series. all of them are viable and none are clearly better or worse than each other. also marisa A's bomb deals the most damage at pointblank
    my biggest issue with this game is the introduction of spell cards, or to be more specific, the existence of nons. pc-98 bosses have really good pacing cause they shoot pattern after pattern with no breaks, but now bosses shoot these really plain looking and easy patterns before each card. it's even worse when it's a boss like doremy whose nons are actually harder than her spells
    eosd also has bland stage portions that can be easily beaten with little memorisation or execution, essentially being loading screens that you have to sit through before you can fight the bosses: the actually fun part of the game, though unfortunately every other game suffers from this same issue as well, which is why this series should've been a boss rush instead. if ZUN refuses to design good stages he may as well not include them in the first place

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      "RNG makes Touhou unique". A good amount of Touhou fans straight up throw a tandrum when RNG becomes even slightly perceptible and claim being rigid is the point. I think it's conceptually dumb, but I'm not in the fanbase and a bloody n00b who can barely beat anything, so my opinion is invalid anyways.

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 7 місяців тому

    It isn't the best in terms of gameplay. But in terms of its cast, it might be.

  • @EpikBirb
    @EpikBirb 7 місяців тому

    Copied my video title smh

  • @hector6264
    @hector6264 7 місяців тому +1

    EOSD has been spammed and overhyped to the point that it became my least favorite game only a few months after becoming a touhou fan. The game is clunky, as mentioned in the video. No comment on the characters; I don't have a particularly strong opinion on them.
    The music in eosd is just mediocre, though. For example: Remi's theme, one of the most popular, is literally just single melodic phrase repeated over and over again by a trumpet. UN owen is even more repetitive, and the idea of a harmonic line is long gone (though her 17.5 theme is pretty good imo). Of course, people are entitled to their own opinion, but I find it funny how people preach something along the lines of "all music after Touhou 8 is bad", when it is clear that the earlier themes were far less polished than they are now.
    My favorite game (in terms of music) is hsifs for those that are wondering 👍

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 6 місяців тому

      ehh, i think the OST of the 6th game is pretty good, ngl. Imo, it's a big leap in sound quality compared to the PC-98 games. Imo, the compositions are great and have aged well. The 7th game's OST is a leap in sound quality but i don't think it makes the 6th game's OST bad. At least it's not repetitive or pierces your ears or something. The 3rd boss, 5th stage, and Extra Stage (stage)'s BGM are pretty noteworthy. The instruments aren't bad, but the BGM does sound compressed for some reason, though, like it's being rendered at a low bit rate. However, once you listen to a ton of SNES OSTs like Chrono Trigger you'll probably get used to the blurry sound eventually, lol
      (I don't know about "all music after Touhou 8 is bad", though. It sounds like people not giving different things a chance, but then again, i'm only on 7.5's OST, haha)

    • @notlol1
      @notlol1 6 місяців тому

      Based HSiFS enjoyer.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      New Touhou music and old touhou music are both great, change my mind. *still listens certain PC98 music semi-regularly*

    • @hector6264
      @hector6264 6 місяців тому

      @@lpfan4491 strawberry crisis goog

  • @bootlegyoumufumo4632
    @bootlegyoumufumo4632 7 місяців тому +2

    Man, EoSD is overrated af. I know that it's the most important game of the series, but it almost like people knows or care only about this game and other games are nothing.

    • @SatoworiKowomeiji
      @SatoworiKowomeiji 7 місяців тому +2

      I guess you could call it the "Red/Blue" or "Gen 1" (from Pokemon) of Touhou lol

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 6 місяців тому

      @@SatoworiKowomeiji yeah

  • @ImmacHn
    @ImmacHn 7 місяців тому +3

    6 is okay, but it is pretty bad as an entry point to the series nowadays, I'd go for 10 or 16 for that.

  • @elegant_lilligant
    @elegant_lilligant 7 місяців тому +1

    The thing with EoSD is that it is pretty much the 6th PC-98 game, which is understandable given ZUN had already made 5 games for PC-98 and it was his first Windows game so he would want to make things he already knows. But that creates the issue that PC-98 games just don't fit Windows, EoSD is pretty clunky, slow and overall just not that good at least for me. I would honestly rather play MS instead.
    One thing that I can give EoSD so e slack on is the music, especially the soundfont. It has this strange, nostalgic sound to it that's especially apparent in the songs in DiPP, Legend of Hourai is seriously one of the best songs in Touhou because of that. Oh and it also gave us some classic visuals such as Sakuya'd portraits and Reimu chokeholding Remilia lol.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 6 місяців тому

      ehh, i think the OST of the 6th game is pretty good, ngl. Imo, the compositions are great and have aged well. The 7th game's OST is a leap in sound quality but i don't think it makes the 6th game's OST bad. At least it's not repetitive or pierces your ears or something. The instruments aren't bad, but the BGM does sound compressed for some reason, though, like it's being rendered at a low bit rate. However, once you listen to a ton of SNES OSTs like Chrono Trigger you'll probably get used to the blurry sound eventually, lol
      I'll probably agree with you about the gameplay, though, but then again, I've only played Game 1, 2, 3, and 6 so i can't really compare anything, haha
      (oh wait, i reread what you said and realized that you weren't criticizing EoSD's soundtrack xD)

  • @mcshadowj
    @mcshadowj 6 місяців тому

    Zuhn.

  • @Ironitestia
    @Ironitestia 7 місяців тому

    I’m wayyyy too early to this (like 2nd comment)

  • @TekNikEOSD
    @TekNikEOSD 7 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, Touhou 6 feels like a PC98 game just retrofitted into a Windows program, with updated graphics.

  • @bruhman9018
    @bruhman9018 6 місяців тому

    Touhou 6 is mid on the account of it doesn’t have Mima

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 6 місяців тому

      *Rin Satsuki

  • @daltonharmon1018
    @daltonharmon1018 2 місяці тому

    Touhou 5 is better than 6 lmao

  • @omegaj
    @omegaj 6 місяців тому

    This game sucks

  • @Yarn1x8757
    @Yarn1x8757 7 місяців тому +99

    Don't care what everyone says. Touhou 8, 11, 15 and 17 will ALWAYS be top tier. Touhou 6 is the middest of the mid

    • @GensokyanCoconut
      @GensokyanCoconut 7 місяців тому +36

      Touhou 17 is very underated imo. Its nice to see another Touhou 17 enjoyer.

    • @nadox5259
      @nadox5259 7 місяців тому +8

      Add touhou 18 too, the gameplay is amazing!

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 7 місяців тому +6

      Touhou 11 is my favorite for obvious reasons

    • @reese626
      @reese626 7 місяців тому +2

      Replace 17 with 18 and I'll agree.

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 7 місяців тому +1

      th6 had a big impact on the community but its a shit game