I remember meeting with a Harley Davidson engineer at a trade show and I remember explaining to him that best way to get kids to care about the brand is introducing them at a young age. The PW50 got many people into Yamaha same with the 65cc from KTM, Kawasaki and Honda . It allows kids to feel connected to the brand and actually care. The younger you get the audience to care, the more loyal they’ll be.
Sometimes. Ppl aren't always loyal. They want best bikes esp in highly competitive MX market. Grew up riding /racing Kawasaki KXs. Haven't bought a new one in 20yrs+. KTM & Yamaha in my garage. 💯
Well, good forecast! So, let's hope that in 10 years we will have a unicorn bike that is sub 170kg fully loaded and with decent behavior in the both worlds....dream on 😆
I mean... Sherco has been growing a lot in the Enduro and Hard Enduro scene... Heck, I even own one :) I think they all have space in the market, we'll see!
@@KRANKiT We will see, im not convinced on the Bajaj built Triumphs, Bajaj have only ever built small road bikes, not competition MX bikes, and the so called specialist MX dealers listed are the same useless Triumph main dealers, who are terrible with parts supply from my experience (ive had 2 and still got one Triple) The Triumph MX bikes look to me much like the SuperQuadro mono 650, the marketing doesnt quite fit the suggested use. but we will see i guess. good videos anyway mate, keep it up
Honda had no serious experience with motocross, but by the early 70s they were killing the competition with their first generation motocross bikes, despite the owner and CEO having to be dragged into the sport kicking and screaming. I will say good move Triumph and Ducati.
Under Audi ownership the street engines have been made more robust with valve service intervals extended as just one result. Much more power now. The dirt bikes will likely smoke the competition.
Exciting times for sure! Disappointed in the decision by the parent company of KTM to move production and R&D to China and India, nixing 300 jobs in Austria. Cancelled my order for a KTM Six Days 500 EXC-F. Looking at Beta now. Already have a Ducati Panigale. If they had a dual sport ready for the market I would likely move in that direction.
Bro, the bandana was too distracting. I barely took notice and only watched all tge way through hoping you would come to terms with the fact it's time to shave your head and grow a handlebar/chopper moustache 🤙🏽 good concept though
Haha yeah, the bandana had nothing to do with me losing my hair ... I genuinely failed to put it on, I only had it because it wrote Ducati on it ... but a handlebar mustache? I might give that a trial at one point :))
As a guy who grew up on two wheels in the 60's/70's starting with mini bikes, mini cycles, enduros/dirt bikes, trials competitions, motocross (earning an AMA Expert license in 125cc Motocross and then racing in 250cc Amateur briefly), flat track/TT's, and finally earning an AMA Pro/Expert license in 250cc/350cc Road Race and racing in the Daytona 200 in 1975 as an 18 year old senior in H.S., I would just offer up the opinion that if you are trying to capture the youth market, a 250cc Motocross bike is way too advanced but for all but the top 0.001% of young riders...it is a bike that will get you dead/seriously injured unless you have high level skills. Young novice riders really need to start with underpowered dirt bikes to learn how to go fast at loss of traction time before getting on any motocross bike, especially a 250cc model. After my mini bike/cycle days my first bike was a Yamaha DT 125, and my first Mx bike was a YZ100, then a YZ125 (which we would modify for flat track and TT races), then YZ250, then the TZ250/350 for Road Race during a partial AMA season in '75. p.s. I now ride a 2023 Ducati ) Panigale V4 R.
I assumed Ducati and Triumph wanted to prove to bitter and cynical hard-asses who don't have a B license (such as myself) that they are capable of making all-weather bikes. I mean, Triumph even started making 400cc's, the golden displacement for the car-less :D
@@Blockbuster2033 I'd say 650 is aspirational; at least when you live on a plain; I had a 650 once, and it was much more than enough in all scenarios, even though my girlfriend at the time was quite fa... (cough) beautiful and talented.
I wish them luck, but wouldn't it make more sense for Ducati to get into cruisers and high displacement scooters? After all they are the Harley Davidson of Generation X (with them being the last to be able to afford them) and those guys aren't getting any younger. Them going after MX-kids feels a bit like Bugatti building an entry-level subcompact (whicht they would totally have to do to save their fleet fuel economy if it wasn't for being owned by Volkswagen)
the big elephant in the room not mentioned is KTM* (not ducati sorry)being leader. Making ton of money and buying other manufacturers left and right. If other manufacturers don't wake up its gonna become like car business with3 or 4 multi brand groups owning everything
they just want money..... more options is better but they just want to monitize the big whale adventure poser bike that is now so commom and cost more than a SUV and that brings us to ducati and others..... all i want is a cheap, reliable bike that i can have fun with and dont worry that i will drop it or that the maintenaince is a nightmare..... so im basicly stuck with japanese and if lucky some premium chinese that are coming... the others are for boomers that think riding a super ugly bike is coool.....
Great video. But what's with the stupid bandana? It totally distracted from the point you were trying to make. Just embrace your thinning hair and shave the rest off.
For anyone wondering, no ... I still have no idea how to wear my Ducati bandana :)
Plot twist, he now wear a cap
....its not for the head on your shoulders its for the other one
Honda is near irrelevant now in MX ..except in Pro racing. I wouldn't consider there bikes.
I remember meeting with a Harley Davidson engineer at a trade show and I remember explaining to him that best way to get kids to care about the brand is introducing them at a young age. The PW50 got many people into Yamaha same with the 65cc from KTM, Kawasaki and Honda . It allows kids to feel connected to the brand and actually care. The younger you get the audience to care, the more loyal they’ll be.
So true!
Sometimes. Ppl aren't always loyal. They want best bikes esp in highly competitive MX market. Grew up riding /racing Kawasaki KXs. Haven't bought a new one in 20yrs+. KTM & Yamaha in my garage. 💯
and then the harley reps laughed at you and said"we know best remember peter fonda the 'kids icon"😀
Harley has engineers?
I'm guessing Harley didnt consider his words. Wow what a cool looking motorcycle, said no kid ever lmao.
I sincerely hope your channel will grow and grow. Your content is absolutely amazing and it deserves lot more views. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!
This is what BMW tried with Husqvarna, but they got it all wrong.
Kinda true ... let’s hope it goes better this time!
The only thing they got to do was to left husky do their job and support them with the distribution, cos of the useless plan we lost husaberg 😭
Dont you mean to ask why is Ducati & Triumph going BACK to motorcross?
They've been there before.
Dude just put a hat on!
Didn’t have an appropriate one ... this had to do :))
Well, good forecast! So, let's hope that in 10 years we will have a unicorn bike that is sub 170kg fully loaded and with decent behavior in the both worlds....dream on 😆
One can only dream ...
Great video, thanks for sharing this!!! 🤘😎
Thanks for watching!
an interesting take, our subject matter does seem to cross at times 🙂 where do you see Sherco and Beta in the current market?
I mean... Sherco has been growing a lot in the Enduro and Hard Enduro scene... Heck, I even own one :) I think they all have space in the market, we'll see!
@@KRANKiT We will see, im not convinced on the Bajaj built Triumphs, Bajaj have only ever built small road bikes, not competition MX bikes, and the so called specialist MX dealers listed are the same useless Triumph main dealers, who are terrible with parts supply from my experience (ive had 2 and still got one Triple) The Triumph MX bikes look to me much like the SuperQuadro mono 650, the marketing doesnt quite fit the suggested use. but we will see i guess. good videos anyway mate, keep it up
@@barebonesmc thanks! Yeah, let’s wait and see
@KRANKiT They have a chance esp Beta. Their new MX bike looks fantastic!
Best motorcycle content in YT.
KEEP IT UP
Thank you very much!
That was an excellent piece of motorcycling philosophy. Much better than 'Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance'. Thank you sir.
Cheers!
Honda had no serious experience with motocross, but by the early 70s they were killing the competition with their first generation motocross bikes, despite the owner and CEO having to be dragged into the sport kicking and screaming. I will say good move Triumph and Ducati.
Great video! Subscribed.
Personally the first thing in my mind about a ducati was the money-for bying-service-spare parts.
Service intervals are much longer on the ducati engine
We'll see... Parts will most likely not be cheap, but regarding intervals... I don't think we know anything for sure yet
Under Audi ownership the street engines have been made more robust with valve service intervals extended as just one result. Much more power now. The dirt bikes will likely smoke the competition.
Desmo service is 18k mile intervals now. I'm halfway there on my 8 month old DesertX.
All the fidgeting gave me actual stress. Get rid of the red thing
Sorry about it :))
@@KRANKiT i was having a bad day im sorry i was rude
No worries, no offense taken :) @@fletcherjacobs3688
Exciting times for sure! Disappointed in the decision by the parent company of KTM to move production and R&D to China and India, nixing 300 jobs in Austria. Cancelled my order for a KTM Six Days 500 EXC-F. Looking at Beta now. Already have a Ducati Panigale. If they had a dual sport ready for the market I would likely move in that direction.
Look, at least looks-wise... that's gonna be one sexy garage!
Bro, the bandana was too distracting. I barely took notice and only watched all tge way through hoping you would come to terms with the fact it's time to shave your head and grow a handlebar/chopper moustache 🤙🏽 good concept though
Haha yeah, the bandana had nothing to do with me losing my hair ... I genuinely failed to put it on, I only had it because it wrote Ducati on it ... but a handlebar mustache? I might give that a trial at one point :))
Amazing. Next episode, please.
Thank you!
Hey nice video man, where are you from ?
From Romania
As a guy who grew up on two wheels in the 60's/70's starting with mini bikes, mini cycles, enduros/dirt bikes, trials competitions, motocross (earning an AMA Expert license in 125cc Motocross and then racing in 250cc Amateur briefly), flat track/TT's, and finally earning an AMA Pro/Expert license in 250cc/350cc Road Race and racing in the Daytona 200 in 1975 as an 18 year old senior in H.S., I would just offer up the opinion that if you are trying to capture the youth market, a 250cc Motocross bike is way too advanced but for all but the top 0.001% of young riders...it is a bike that will get you dead/seriously injured unless you have high level skills. Young novice riders really need to start with underpowered dirt bikes to learn how to go fast at loss of traction time before getting on any motocross bike, especially a 250cc model. After my mini bike/cycle days my first bike was a Yamaha DT 125, and my first Mx bike was a YZ100, then a YZ125 (which we would modify for flat track and TT races), then YZ250, then the TZ250/350 for Road Race during a partial AMA season in '75. p.s. I now ride a 2023 Ducati ) Panigale V4 R.
Business growth,profits,new niche for expansion.
Milestone...red bandana. 😇
I didn’t have a Ducati hat so this had to do :)
I want a Desmo Enduro!
But!?! Have you changed your 701 for a 790 is the real question!
Haha no, I haven’t ... with that being said, it is a bit of a hint towards the next video!
I coildnt get one of those on my mellon either
I assumed Ducati and Triumph wanted to prove to bitter and cynical hard-asses who don't have a B license (such as myself) that they are capable of making all-weather bikes. I mean, Triumph even started making 400cc's, the golden displacement for the car-less :D
I always thought 650cc is the golden displacement for the car-less haha
@@Blockbuster2033 I'd say 650 is aspirational; at least when you live on a plain; I had a 650 once, and it was much more than enough in all scenarios, even though my girlfriend at the time was quite fa... (cough) beautiful and talented.
I wish them luck, but wouldn't it make more sense for Ducati to get into cruisers and high displacement scooters? After all they are the Harley Davidson of Generation X (with them being the last to be able to afford them) and those guys aren't getting any younger. Them going after MX-kids feels a bit like Bugatti building an entry-level subcompact (whicht they would totally have to do to save their fleet fuel economy if it wasn't for being owned by Volkswagen)
Ditch the red cloth thing, please!
the big elephant in the room not mentioned is KTM* (not ducati sorry)being leader. Making ton of money and buying other manufacturers left and right. If other manufacturers don't wake up its gonna become like car business with3 or 4 multi brand groups owning everything
Who have they bought recently? Cause I don't think they've been so shopping happy as the KTM group for example
@@KRANKiT sorry I did want to write KTM not ducati. corrected
Win races, sell bikes. Its not any deeper than that.
As the saying goes … win on Sunday, sell on Monday
By the looks of it, the bandana is for "engagement", look at all the comments 😂
So it’s a case of get them while they’re young
Well, yeah ... although I wouldn’t phrase it exactly like that :))
That's why Aprilia builds just 125cc dirt bikes
they just want money..... more options is better but they just want to monitize the big whale adventure poser bike that is now so commom and cost more than a SUV and that brings us to ducati and others..... all i want is a cheap, reliable bike that i can have fun with and dont worry that i will drop it or that the maintenaince is a nightmare..... so im basicly stuck with japanese and if lucky some premium chinese that are coming... the others are for boomers that think riding a super ugly bike is coool.....
Great video. But what's with the stupid bandana? It totally distracted from the point you were trying to make. Just embrace your thinning hair and shave the rest off.
Exactly, just shave it all off. Its much better to be bald and potentially look ugly than trying to hide what isnt there