Does Supercross King Jeremy McGrath KNOW why Ducati is entering the sport?! 🤔
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
- Jeremy McGrath is the King of Supercross. With 72 wins and 7 championships he stands alone as the man inside a stadium. Obviously I am a lifelong fan of MC but it wasn't until recently we got to hang out at Mammoth Motocross where I got to see the secret to all of his success. He really love riding his dirtbike.
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If anyone could make it happen it would be Ducati. I for one am stoked to see more manufacturers in the sport. I can't see MORE competition and money being bad for it.
Absolutely 💯. New Triumph is knock off of awesome KTM 250SXF. It's cool tho. Rather get the proven '24 KTM 250SXF! -Ohio
@@Davido50 lmfao! Why would they copy garbage?
They'll even use Desmo
Till you see how woke every other major Motorsport has gone. Just because advertising is paying more, doesn’t mean it’s good lol they have you by the balls.
@@dandlugolecki3408 No they don't. It's only if you let them have the power do they actually hold it. I also know that these teams only have so big of a budget, that's why there are only so many top-tier rides. You think the addition of Husqy and Gas Gas has been a NEGATIVE for the sport? Because I do not. I don't think added Ducati and Triumph will be either. I'll give an example about the woke thing, when there was a big advertising debacle on UA-cam in like 2012, YoutTube sold out their content creators (Like PewDiePie) for a company like Pepsi, even thought Pepsi has WAY less influence and views and PewDiePie does. Did they learn their lesson? I don't know, but I do know that people have gone over their heads to places like Patreon to continue to make money while still getting the broad YT audience. They transcended the platfrom. I think everyone sees that now in moto with the Haiden Deegans of the world. The athletes are transcending the sport nowadays, and it's only going to continue to change in that direction, that's why I'm not worried about that.
Growing up idolizing Jeremy and then eventually getting to hang out with him in social settings, I can tell you he is one of the most down to earth and stand up people you will ever meet!
Always enjoy listening to Jeremy. Class act…he is the GOAT in my mind.
The pinnacle of every sport is a championship. So by definition Ricky Carmichael is the GOAT as he has the most championships. That said I regard Jeremy McGrath as the father of super cross but that’s just my opinion. However I think most people would agree.
Damn McGrath is awesome. Grew up watching him dominate the sport. Seems very informed and chill.
The King is very cool. He was awesome when I asked him for a picture
Ducati entering the dirt bike world is (more than likely) to attract the younger generation to the brand -- which should equal selling more motorcycles
I have one of the first purpose-built Ducati off-road bikes under my house right now! It's a 1966 250 Scrambler, and it runs! Bevel-gear OHC with hairpin valve springs, 4-speed, DelOrtto (?) carb, and it's a blast to ride. It's also fairly valuable as a collector's machine. Do a search and you'll see.
Without directly looking at the numbers it does not seem like sport bikes are selling to the general public as well as they used to. You're seeing many more adventure style bikes being sold. Even Ducati had to introduce more adventure style bikes, when they were sportbike only for so long. So I imagine introducing a dirtbike to their line up would help open up a large revenue stream for Ducati.
Multistrada, Desert X, some varietys of the scrambler, they are already big in the Offroad game, just not with dirt bikes. Which is an interesting way to enter the sport. Most other manufacturers had dirt bikes (or the predecessor of dirt bikes) almost from the beginning. Even Triumph was the leading dirt bike manufacturer in like the 50s and 60s. I hope ducati is seriously doing something fundamentaly different in the way a dirt bike is built and behaves.
@@janniksims5740 That's what I stated. They've been slowly steering towards a proper dirtbike for a little while now. I do know Ducati had a dirtbike in the late 60's early 70's if I'm not mistaken. I would also assume this first version of their bike would be closer to something we've seen before rather than a completely new concept as to not make the same mistakes Aprilia did and not be AMA legal.
@@robotsfrom the Aprilia thing was really unfortunate. Such a rad bike... Triumph is already doing something (at least somewhat) different compared to everybody else. The frame is something no other manufacturer has. I'm really excited to ride it some time. Same for the Ducati MX bike.
@@janniksims5740 I'm excited to see and ride one too. We're lucky to be in a time where two top manufactures are attempting to put their best foot forward with factory moto efforts to go racing!
@@robotsfrom Ducati just released a video to their new mx engine... they call it "Superquadro mono" or over square single and it got a gearbox, that is stacked on top of it selve and it has desmodromic valve timing🤯
You two are such a fun duo. I'd love to see a quarterly episode like this.
Don't forget about Cagiva. Ducati owned Cagiva. I had a WMX 125 in the 80's. Parts were impossible to come by but it ran and rode amazing for the era. Don't count em out. Ducati does not give up. GIve em a couple years and they may surprise a bunch of people.
our family was a cagiva dealer in Ohio, glad to hear someone else bring this up!!!
They were pretty legit.
My WMX 125 engine mounts broke constantly but it was a fast bike.
Fastest 125 i ever owned or rode was my 1988 Cagiva WMX125
Cagiva owned ducati for a short spell. hence the elephants on some of the mid 80's ducati's
McGrath is still just a class act and great insight.
We need McGrath to do a bike test with the factory 1985, 1995, 2005, 2015, and 2025 bikes... (It's an idea, so I rounded it up!)
Back in the seventies the Ducati 450 desmo was a killer dirt bike.
Name all the races that bike won.
@@dreadfog350 desmo won the Baja 500, the desmo bikes also hung with 2 strokes in Europe, the tech works on a race track.
Well guys, I’ve been ridding heavy dirt and road since 1967, my 2023 V4R is hands down the most intuitive responsive bike I have ever owned and been on, hands down the most invigorating and exciting bike ever.
Man it would be nice if you could get a Marquez interview…
Hell yeah
He's a massive mx fan so maybe
Who's Marqueezey? Sounds like one of those basketball type guys.
Just joking
Nah…..
No thanks
Not only Ducati...Triumph will be interesting to watch as well.
Thanks for the vid👍
The Desert Sled and Desert X proved they can think "in the dirt". They'll do just fine after a couple years of learning the game.
aprillia already learned this lesson for them lol
@@lukekelly5115🤣🤣
Graham wonThe Mint on the desert sled. (Hes riding the Desert X this year) Fasthouse did a special addition. Only 800 world wide. 100 in the States. I got #671 2 weeks go. Currently Adventure Motoring across America, always 5 infront of the devil 😜🙏🏼 ❤🇺🇸🤙🏼. Ducati just discontinued them. The Dirt switch is ON!!
I bought a Desert Sled 6 months ago. Out of the box, it is far ahead of anything offered by the Japanese brands. The Fasthouse Desert Sled won the Mint 400 by over a 40 minute margin it's first time out. Their second bike DNF'd on the last half of the last lap by breaking the shift lever in the rocks. Ducati redesigned the shift lever to prevent that problem from occurring again. If the Fasthouse bikes had the redesigned shift lever, they would have had a 1 2 on the podium. Never before done by any team or brand on a first year attempt.
I ride ADVs off-road in Texas. Our regular group is guys over 40 with mid-level experience. I was always a mid-pack rider on trails everyone on the ride were familiar with. Picked up a '23 DesertX and within four rides I was gapping the group.
The DDX rides circles around Honda AT and T7 (except for the tightest single-track, T7 has the slightest edge. But who TH takes a 460lb ADV into tight gnarly stuff?)
The air filter under the tank is a non-issue when everyone on the ride is in the mirrors.😂
Would be great to see Maico back in the mix of top level racing. Im surprised someone in the States hasnt pushed for TM to set up a team. The bikes are competitive, the production models come with some trick parts (or at least they always used to.i dont know about this year or next year's models) they always came with amazing hand built parts here and there. I remember the two strokes used to have handbuilt pipes and silencers that always looked like factory team issue,and they were rapid aswell! They just seem to offer alot more high end parts for a similar price to conpletely stock bikes from other bigger manufacturers.
Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki are not motorcycle companies. They make so many other products. KTM, Triumph, Ducati are motorcycle companies. We are about to see some great new bikes.
if i rode bikes id ride ktm
I think Honda and Kawasaki and Suzuki and Yamaha have built a few good motorcycles in the day. This might it’s notthe only thing they build, but they’ve all done a really good job in the past. Maybe check the results this year for Honda.
@@ROLLER-52 No doubt they've made some good motorcycle, but imagine what they could do if motorcycle were their sole focus.
???😂😂😂
Great discussion with the king!
Bring on the “Desmo” valve train. Who’s ready for 18-20krpm single!
The Desmo design has been proven to be extremely reliable.
@@briangc1972it will need to be as all the other brands certainly are and are easy to maintain
@@donbrashsux You are mistaken. You are not part of their target market. Their target market accepts the increased costs of ownership just as a Ferrari owner accepts the fact his maintenance costs will be more than a Subaru's cost.
As a MotoGP fan i would like to hear you two talk more MotoGP, good chemistry and knowledge
This man was my hero as a kid.would watch him not to see him win,already knew he was.just wanted to see if he was gonna do the nac nac..
Love hearing the GOAT talk MotoGP.
MC is the best. King of SX for a reason!
If Ducati gets into MX and they open a dealership in the US I’d go work there in a heartbeat.
I’m excited Ducati is making a dirt bike and the new mono motard looks super sick too. 👍
If Ducati hires the right people who already know how to win, AND leave them alone to do it, they will win quickly.
Another thing to consider is at one time Ducati and Cagiva were essentially the same company and Cagiva did make off road machines.
Quick edit: Honda has won a race this season, and it wasn’t MM93, it was Rins on a satellite team. AR42 happens to be a criminally underrated rider, he will win again at Yamaha.
Ducati did well in Dakar rally back in the day with the Cagiva Lucky Strike bikes. They probably could do it again if they really put theyr resources on it.
Pedigree means shit. Ducati is killing it, they have the money, they have the brains, now they have Cairoli… they will be a force to be reckoned with
Triumph may not have had a dirt specific program. But back in the day, before anyone had a dirt program, Triumph motorcycles were modified for dirt regularly.
This was great, mr bib changed the tires so much, it changed the whole sport.
The Ducati Scrambler of the 60's was one hell of a bike.
Ducati however seen the writing on the wall for 4 stroke bikes with the Japanese, Maico, CZ, Husqvarna etc creating ulta-lightweight bikes. No BS 250s against 125s or 450s against 250s back then - 125cc - 250cc - 500cc 2 or 4. Great business decision then and pretty good decision now to enter the field.
As far as Cairoli goes - Italian legend with an Italian legand.
Pretty much the reason Honda went backwards was due to building a bike to suit 1 rider .... hmmm, seen that before.
Jeremy nailed it with Pecco. Looking at the vids, it appears it was the holeshot device not releasing on the start, but resetting between T1 & T2.
I was weaned on Ducati singles. 1967.....Had all the cams, pistons, carbs, made a 250 into a 350, Ceriani forks, koni shocks, cafe-MX...Veg;lia tach, Smiths Chronometric (very cool) . And if they make a MX bike it better be Bevel Drive ! Or Else....
"Let the rider be the rider." Was watching MotoGP highlights today and kind of thinking the same thing. In MX, I think start devices are stupid and should be banned. I mean, if everyone is on equal footing... What's the difference?
Can’t wait to own a Ducati dirt bike 😊
I will bet you $100.00 you never will in the next decade. (gotta have an ending for the bet).
I love it when Jase goes conspiracy theory! Always leads to good banter and there is usually a chance it could be happening. #goodstuff
Cagiva dirt bikes back in the day. I’ve read that CRC and Ducati shared some engineering and manufacturing abilities in the past.
My 916 even has CRC stamped on it.
@@oldtimehockey7324 Cagiva owned Ducati for many years, eventually selling it to Texas Pacific Group around 1997. CRC is Castiglioni Research Center. (Castiglioni brothers owned Cagiva). Massimo Tamburini who designed Paso, 916, MV F4, & MV Brutale among others worked for Cagiva rather than Ducati. The MV F4 was going to come out as a Cagiva but somewhere in the early 90's Cagiva obtained the rights to the MV Agusta name.
@@sburns2421 Thank you. Was not aware of the history or that I owned multiple Tamburini designed motorcycles.
I ride ADV bikes and got a DesertX 8 months ago (almost 9k miles on it already). I can flat out tell you the bike rides circles around a Honda Africa Twin and in all but the tightest single-track it outrides the Yamaha T7.
Lots of ADV riders who do serious off-road riding agree with this. Watch some serious DesertX reviews by hardcore ADV riders.
Cagiva/Ducati won the Dakar Rally decades ago.
Best Channel
Ducati bought Cagiva many years ago and Cagiva was a big thing back then in MX
Cagiva owned Ducati around the time of the elephant.
Still shitting on that aluminum frame 😂
Wow for Moto x dudes Those dudes were spot on exact!! There knowledge of MotoGP is perfect
The real goat🤙
Don't forget that Ducati is owned by Audi. They don't do any racing second hand.
Jeremy GOAT in excellence and moral character
Im more excited to see what ducati comes up with over the triumph. I think the triumph is going to be very successful but im not sure its all that innovative. Ducati on the other hand might really come up with something incredible. However selling them in mass will be their biggest hurdle. Parts will be hard to find for a few years.
They'll use the Desmo ❤
Suspension devolpment is based on mx, and desmo valve is the most efficient. Thats why.
Never thought I would see the day where the bikes would out number the amount of capable riders. It’s great to know there will be more money brought to the sport as these riders deserve bigger pay checks. But they are gonna need to bring riders over to compete. We have factory riders competing for 15th place these days.
Gypsy wearing a Rolex! Making the bank!!!!
It would be funny to see the 2 different Ducati owners in a Dealership together.
The Cafe Latte Ducati owner sharing stories with a die hard Dirt Bike rider who just bought a Ducati dirt bike.
Im that guy that just wants to be able to say that they own a Ducati dirt bike 🤘 so I'm totally down for this happening
Boys, check out the mid 70’s Ducati RT 450. The original 4T off road bike
Was a big failure. What was original about it?
desmo valve actuation. you might do a little research before you run off at the mouth.
@@grooviefan Research , I was racing then , 2 strokes had taken over from the 4 strokes so how valves were actuated meant dick -all . Compared to the new 2 strokes the desmotronic Duck was a dinosaur . Better to say nothing and have people think you’re an idiot , than open your mouth and leave no doubt.
Ducati's number one selling bike is the multistrada, so they are going to want to expand on that and try to get into dirtbikes since adventure bikes are their best seller. If they want to expand their business, thats the only place they can really do it....sportbikes they are already 100% covered.
Omg a Ducati dirt bike would be sooooo sick.. thing is prob gunna be $20k but it’s gunna be sick..
i tell you about a guy that was good in many sports is also the guy that if he remained in us th legend of tha king of supercros never existed so this guy is JMB wich competed successfully in motocros , motogp, supermoto and some trial :)
I'm a ktm fanboy but if Ducati makes a great off road enduro bike made in Europe, I'm buying it!
Because Ducati wants to beat KTM at their game. See the new single? its a monster. GP tech in MX is going to be a game changer. They are leading. super short stroke, desmo valves, trellis frames? I'm looking forward to it.
If anyone would know what it's like to walk away from a KTM deal, it's McGrath.
Love the moto gp chat
It’s because sport bike sales are dying. Have to find another market.
A Desmodromic valve train in an MX bike sounds enticing. If they can manage higher RPM higher HP. Maybe out door,
They probably won’t get any higher since the races have rpm limits set but will have better valve control at high rpm which is great for power numbers.
Any brand could win if you put a Championship quality rider on it. Rumors are Vespa is making a dirtbike and gonna have the Lawrence brothers as their riders.
My assumption is low volume high price. Like their road stuff. They know there is a percentage of population that might turn their nose up at the average dirtbike that would love to spend double and roll into pits and get the states they're after
We will see but I expect it to be priced around the level of the "factory" editions of other brands. If they build it in Asia the cost of production will not be any higher than other brands.
I Freaking love the Gypsy 🔥
How much will they cost & who will buy the first ones? Maybe the can beat KTM pricing? That would pull some buyers in.
A lot of the moto gp guys do race motocross as training and train on dirt. I think ducati and aprillia will be good for moto to bring the sport globally
Ducati made a 450 mx bike in the early 1970s. Of course, Dirt bikes of that era were not much different from street bikes.
My very inexperienced opinion......
I think it's Ducati spreading it's wings to other Motorsport.
They are dominant in other series so why not see what it can do?.
I'm a die hard Yamaha fan. Eli and Cooper all the way....
The future of Supercross is gonna be spicy 😎👌.
High five from Scotland ❤️😎
To Jase's hypothesis on why Ducati are entering Motocross (i.e., to better compete against KTM who are a challenger in MotoGP): This would make sense if KTM were about to re-release the RC8, but there haven't been any signs of that. Another hypothesis could be that they interviewed their average (wealthy) consumer and figured these folks have multiple bikes for multiple disciplines including MX and can cross sell an MX bike to a Panigale owner without much hassle... even if it's just a garage orniment. Building off-road pedegree also gears Ducati up to build better bikes in the adventure (Multistrada) class, maybe even setting them up for Dakar success in a few years time (?).
Ducati had a motocross bike and GP race team in the late 2000s. It had two cylinders and was not allowed in AMA so it never took off. It was very exotic and had 60hp!
You sure your not talking about aprilia?
Pretty sure that was Aprillia
please do your homework for speaking in front of the class
Italian either way
Ducati made Enduro bikes in early '60s..single cylinder 250 and 350...guys converted them to mx..my dad had a couple before his death
Ducati are doing motocross same way as KTM are doing moto gp, well said was my first thought too
I’m curious how the Ducati lifespan will look, do they attempt to throw money at the deegs once the star racing contract ends? Does beta? Does triumph? Or does he stick to what he knows and kills it on?
I'd think triumph would try
You need only look at what Ducati does in SBK and GP. They rarely grow their own (Beluga being an exception). Would prefer to hire the best riders they can within reason and put them on the best machinery they can produce. They will hire a top 3 rider or two for the MX program in the series they race. Getting sponsors should not be a problem for the Ducati name with a big name rider attached.
Little tracks on the east coast have the best racers in the world while still in high school
Motogp is literally F1 of two wheels. Not factory stuff, all works. Same as F1, a bike from last season probably couldn’t hang with the current because of the engineering, aero, electronics, etc, etc.
Not true, non factory teams are winning on 2022 bikes in Moto GP right now
@corin6677 that isn't what he means
I assume to primarily sell adventure bikes, the only streetbikes that matter.
If anybody can pull it off it’s ducati.
How did guys like JMB and Ward transition into other types of racing and be successful at it? Ward in particular had an amazing career after motocross
Back in the 1970s Ducati had a 450 single four stroke dirt bike. It wasn't competitive and didn't last long.
FIM is seeing the Success of the FIA with Formula one.
Guaranteed Revenues for each team create a profitable Marketing racing program and help benefit the FIM in having manufacture money to secure the sport. Bike will be BOPed
The FIM's "new ideas" are now being rejected by the Japanese factories, and I don't blame them.
They are saying aerodynamics is the reason Honda and Yamaha aren't competing with Ducati. They haven't done the R&D of the other manufacturers.
Title should say “Jase tells The King his opinion on why Ducati is joining the sport”. 🙄
How can we get someone’s option when Jase constantly leads the conversation instead of asking a question?
Don’t watch…
im looking forward to Triumph and Ducati entering dirtbikes . im praying that means one of them will make a 450 sport quad . i race atvmx and would love to see other brands on the gate . all we have is yamaha , nothing against yamaha . thanks to yamaha i won my first atv racing championship . but i know more brands means the sport is doing good and right now atv racing isnt doing good
Ducati has a decent super moto bike. Closest to a dirt bike they have.
What would a Ducati bike cost and who would they market
Looks like a sweet bike....they will need a top rider
Jeff Ward took second in Indy. One in a million achievement
I met Rick Johnson after his retirement, teaching MX at a local track in Michigan around that time. I mentioned to him that Jeff is doing pretty good with Indy.
His response was, "But he did not win one yet.".
I figured out later in life, Jeff is the better man.
@@EarthSurferUSA Wow. the fact that if anyone in one sport can even come close to winning in another should be considered incredible. Prime example: Danica Patrick. Stay Blessed brother
Back in the 70's, motocross was a melting pot of manufactures. It was common to see Maico, Ossa, Husqvarna, CZ, Can-am, Montesa, Bultaco, Penton, in addition to the 4 japanese manufacturers.
MotoGP is just an engineering race, like they said it’s not even about the riders ability so much as the power and handeling
A desmodronic dirt bike would be pretty cool
They dont need it anymore. Spring technology had surpassed the benefits that Desmo had for 50 years. Springs rev higher now.
That said, yeah it would be cool
Ducati is owned by Volkswagen 😳 that surprised the fuuu outta me
In the 70's Ducati had isde rt450. It wasn't great but they did have one
Only Moto podcast worth listening to these days
Ducati made a 250 scrambler in the 60s
250, 350 and later a 450...
I think triumphs return and seeing what they did to the market has clearly motivated ducati....
I learned that myself
7:36 Stoner optimizes on minimizing risk... Marquez optimizes on overriding the bike... Stoner's genius is adapting to the bike in the fewest iterations ua-cam.com/video/LmOaCkoIPQQ/v-deo.html
Ducati bought Cagiva!!!! which was a legendary brand in the early 80s!!!!!!
Neville Bradshaw has been breaking some egos, racing old 2 strokes against modern bikes, please explain this happening.
The motogp bikes now have so much power/speed aero/ride height/ electronics are a ..need.. without them bikes crashing all over riders hurt ect ect .
Triumph seems interesting to me.
If it was actually going to be a good bike. Why wouldn't RC qualify and race LL on it?
RC and JS contracts break Suzukis bank?