@@max.rod111 I've used an air hammer for years doing body work. Took a toll on my elbow, constant pain. Went to work for the county doing mechanic work. It's a lot better
Judging by how sharp that drill bit is this must have taken well over an hour when you could have Is removed the heads in less than 2 minutes with a grinder.
@@johndowe7003better drill means less heat on the part. Bad drill means more friction and less cutting. Temperature in that case, has nothing to do with it, that iron has not enough carbon content to become brittle.
@@benjaminfisheriv9340you wear out your tires because the bushings in the control arem allow play ...no alignment in the world can fix that, also you run risk of sing steering control in severe moments avoiding crash or loss od stability on rain hydroplaning and ice... not to mention reduced braking ... But hey, I'm sure you'll use that money better in your next life...
@@1truthseeking8 Bushings are also swappable. You're making this to be an enormously bigger deal than it actually is. I would bet a significant sum that old control arm with new bushings + new ball joint is going to be exactly within spec on both camber, caster and any other significant metric. Not to mention golf 4 comes factory with swappable ball joints.
@@benjaminfisheriv9340It's a Daewoo Lanos, a Control Arm is like less than 60€, this isn't US ridiculous prices. Your labor paid hour in autoshops are already a joke being so high let alone parts. lol A ball joint shouldn't be more than 15€
Meanwhile during this car development: - "You're gonna use rivets to fix this ball joint? What about maintenance?" - "I'm a engineer, not a mechanic, each one with your own problems..."
Easier and likely cheaper to swap the entire control arm. Drilling these take an absolute eternity, in my opinion using an angle grinder works best. Hard part is when half the rivet gets stuck to the control arm!!
Better way of doing that is take a cut off wheel cut an x on all three rivets then take an air hammer and it'll just slide the top of those rivets right off then you just poke them out put in the new ball joint
Get a cut blade and make a T or a cross. Chisel each quarter off. And then hammer out. Sometimes the drill bit gets burnt up or takes too long. Looks like you have a good one
I've learned that this is the only option if the vehicles lower arms are no longer manufactured or are more expensive than the labor and parts required here.
And if your control arms look like that and the balljoint was bad how good do you think the rest of the bushing could possibly be??? Just change the damn control arm
Use the press on the other side and open below the bolts! Two pieces of metal leaving space them to drop!!! WTH!!! You already took off the arm anyway.
En argentina Chevrolet era una de las fabricas que remachaban las rotulas a los brazos inferiores de la suspensión de las c10 no se si otras fabricas lo hacian pero era un trastorno para sustituir las rotulas despues se montaba tornilleria adecuada y asi no tener que desarmar una y otra ves pero ahora que lo pienso? quien tenia una remachadora de ese tamaño? solo fabricas y creo que lo hacian asi por una cuestion de costos, un remache vale menos que un tornillo de acero arandelas y tuercas autofrenantes , si , debe haber sido por eso ,saludos
Все это проще делается болгаркой запиливается крест на заклепки потом Так же зубилом сбивается заклепка мягкая а вот работа со снятием рычага доя того чтоб ремонт был дороже
Lo bonito al taladrar es ver las dos virutas saliendo parejas de los dos labios de corte de la broca. En el video sale polvo y eso es que no corta bien, ni con lubricacion ni sin ella.
Uhhh. Some Toyotas you mean. On others they designed them to be replaced with the control arm and were astronomically expensive for a long time. Mk iv supras, soarers and Lexus SC300/400 all share the same chassis and at a time Lexus dealers sold the rear pair for almost $1200 and Toyota would sell you the same for about half the cost. The front was cheaper but still way overpriced. Even with the lower price points you can get them at these days it's still well worth it to modify the oem arms to take replaceable ball joints if not going to aftermarket arms.
Can also use a part of ball bearing. Накернил вместо сверла ложешь стальной щарик от подшипника меньшего размера и ложи на пресс и дави его. Саерлить не надо меньще пыли и быстрее. This trick works very good for me
Old guy advice, don’t use air chisels, you’re elbows will thank you. Just replace the whole arm and move on.
I know about the air chisel. Painful. Used it for years.😢
@@petepusinskas-bi2tg is there a consequence for using a air chisel ?
@@max.rod111vibration white finger, or maybe white arm
@@max.rod111 I've used an air hammer for years doing body work. Took a toll on my elbow, constant pain. Went to work for the county doing mechanic work. It's a lot better
Cinceles de aire se entiende q es con maquina y boto q es a martillazo
Judging by how sharp that drill bit is this must have taken well over an hour when you could have Is removed the heads in less than 2 minutes with a grinder.
Yeah but heat could ruin the temper on the part. I doubt it but it's possible
Клепки каленые
@@johndowe7003better drill means less heat on the part. Bad drill means more friction and less cutting. Temperature in that case, has nothing to do with it, that iron has not enough carbon content to become brittle.
Cortando em X,facilmente.
Я за этим комментарием зашёл
Вообще это выпресовывается шариком от подшипника за минуту
Я так делаю не снимая рычаг
_выпрессовывается_
@@universum9876 одни учителя кругом, даже плюнуть некуда
@@user-qh7wt6rn5iплюй в учителя 😂
@@user-qh7wt6rn5iэто когда у чела высшее, а кроме как в комментах его и применить негде 😁
This guy has real work ethic cause everyone here inthe comments including myself would just replace the whole arm
Right Ball joints are probably 20-30 bucks for both and some hardware is 5 bucks and maybe 1 control arm is 100 bucks. He’s the smart one
@@benjaminfisheriv9340you wear out your tires because the bushings in the control arem allow play ...no alignment in the world can fix that, also you run risk of sing steering control in severe moments avoiding crash or loss od stability on rain hydroplaning and ice... not to mention reduced braking ...
But hey, I'm sure you'll use that money better in your next life...
@@1truthseeking8 Bushings are also swappable. You're making this to be an enormously bigger deal than it actually is. I would bet a significant sum that old control arm with new bushings + new ball joint is going to be exactly within spec on both camber, caster and any other significant metric. Not to mention golf 4 comes factory with swappable ball joints.
My local parts stores dont even carry opel parts, how would I replace it?😂
@@benjaminfisheriv9340It's a Daewoo Lanos, a Control Arm is like less than 60€, this isn't US ridiculous prices. Your labor paid hour in autoshops are already a joke being so high let alone parts. lol
A ball joint shouldn't be more than 15€
Pay close attention this is how it's supposed to be done.
You need a whole control arm lol I'm not doing all that because they don't pay you for it 😂
Не поверите - на Opel заклепки с центровками идут с завода
Use a angle grinder they will be off in half the time or less
Я конечно извиняюсь)) но проще взять шарик от подшипника 9-10мм и выдавить эту заклепку на прессе.
Спасибо большое, будем внедрять 👍😀
Use cobalt drill bits with drop of oil. Expensive but worth it 👌
Thank you very much for your valuable advice 👍
У нас в России, делают так же кирнят, не много сверлят. Потом ложат шарик от подшипника. И давят гидравлическим пресом. Вылетает на ура
А что потом взамен ставить? Если оригинал идет в сборе
@@mistermuhutya2583меня всегда интересовал этот вопрос .
@@mistermuhutya2583аналогичный, только под болты
@@HowAreYouPeople а с чего ты взял что мы умеем делать бомбы?
@@HowAreYouPeople так на видео такой же нищий, но из страны 404)
Lol just had a guy come in with an ancient AMC arm with one of these, he wanted the bushing on the other side
Пресс и подшипник!!!!
Это слишком по русски😅
И пневмозубило ещё... И болгаркой крестик... Насколько нужно быть тугим, чтоб вообще лезть к сверлу, это такие крайности
Good stuff my man, wish my mechanic cared that much
Ja to prebrusim na nulu i izbijem mnogo brze
“Why did my tie rod and rack ends cost me $400?!?” All you gotta do is show them this hahaha
😅
Same experience
are tie rods and rack ends not the same things?
Air hammer works better
Replace the complete control arm would have been a lot easier
Это дороже
Да, это дороже
More expensive BUT you get new bushings at the frame attachments … at least on my 08 focus.
@@opelservicekyivalmost 10times more expensive
this is about repairing stuff, not just parts swapping!
opel! engineering at its finest X)
Просто шарик от подшипника поставили диаметром самого болта и под пресс. Очень легко
Это нужно снять рычаг,сверлом по месту быстрее,главное заточить хорошо.
@@pavelcarpeikin3229 согласен . Кто как привык . 👍 Просто на видео снятый .
Hit that with an air hammer and chisel and they pop right off
I use a grinder. Mostly because my air compressor isn't large enough to really supply enough air long enough
Always interesting video's - I might sharpen that drill 🙂
Thank you
We never drill those out we always just use an air chisel. Typically we do it while it's still on the car
Yeah
Oh great, I have to try it too.
@@opelservicekyiv I always notch the head both ways then chisel less effort with chisel that way
@@nashduff8465I do something similar, I'll cut the head of the rivet with the chisel in a cross pattern. Then to the side.
재생 작업 이군요
사고가 아닌 로어암 재생이군요
Dude all the time and labor could’ve been saved by buying the whole arm
Meanwhile during this car development:
- "You're gonna use rivets to fix this ball joint? What about maintenance?"
- "I'm a engineer, not a mechanic, each one with your own problems..."
That's for sure 😊👍
If you have a bad ball joint most likely the bushings are shot also.
Easier and likely cheaper to swap the entire control arm. Drilling these take an absolute eternity, in my opinion using an angle grinder works best. Hard part is when half the rivet gets stuck to the control arm!!
totally agree, it's about saving money
30 vs 300 $
Better way of doing that is take a cut off wheel cut an x on all three rivets then take an air hammer and it'll just slide the top of those rivets right off then you just poke them out put in the new ball joint
Есть ещё лучше вариант, купить новый рычаг с шаровой опорой и не заморачиваться с этим😂
Get a cut blade and make a T or a cross. Chisel each quarter off. And then hammer out. Sometimes the drill bit gets burnt up or takes too long. Looks like you have a good one
Thank you
man I'm so glad my Corolla only has bolts connecting the arm to the ball joint so don't have to replace both at the same time
1 minute grinder will ease your work
So this is how you replace a balljoint? Now I'm worried that this isnt possible at home 😂
In the meantime wasn't nothing wrong with the first set of rivet's
Положи шарик от подшипника подходящего диаметра заклепки и надови прессом без сверления ! Сама вылетает .
I've learned that this is the only option if the vehicles lower arms are no longer manufactured or are more expensive than the labor and parts required here.
Можно шарик с подшипника диаметром болта поставить на клёпки и пресом давить . Результате шпилтка вылетит шарик продавит
I've done a ton of those over the years, it's cheaper/faster for the factory but a pain in the ass for us. 😊
You can use the brazing tip to make these cherry hot then zap them off with the air chisel. You can do this on the truck.
Меняю не снимая рычага. Болгаркой крест на крест. И зубилом сбиваю. 😂
Советский молоток 🔨 не заменит не один импортный
That's the long way...
No drill needed.
Just an air hummer with a chisel
Why bother you've got the whole control arm out. Replace it. You get new bushings and the ball joint. That repair can be made on car.
Grinder! You can get all three at once and it goes quick
Wat a mission i remember doing this on a rover metro with the arm still on the car. It took ages
Bro, new wish bone and less money, quick 10 mins in and out and on to the next
If the whole arm is available, just go that route.
And if your control arms look like that and the balljoint was bad how good do you think the rest of the bushing could possibly be???
Just change the damn control arm
Use the press on the other side and open below the bolts! Two pieces of metal leaving space them to drop!!! WTH!!! You already took off the arm anyway.
Das ist völlig in Ordnung ,nur sollten die Bohrer mal geschliffen werden 😂 !
En argentina Chevrolet era una de las fabricas que remachaban las rotulas a los brazos inferiores de la suspensión de las c10 no se si otras fabricas lo hacian pero era un trastorno para sustituir las rotulas despues se montaba tornilleria adecuada y asi no tener que desarmar una y otra ves pero ahora que lo pienso? quien tenia una remachadora de ese tamaño? solo fabricas y creo que lo hacian asi por una cuestion de costos, un remache vale menos que un tornillo de acero arandelas y tuercas autofrenantes , si , debe haber sido por eso ,saludos
Muchas gracias, fue interesante eso en Argentina con autos. Estás muy lejos. 😀👍
Man, I hate to inform the customer that they paid twice what a new control arm cost.
Why would they pay double
@@johndowe7003 Labor
@@PWgadgets looks like polish or central European. Labor is cheap there also
Labor costs are not the same around the world that’s why in some countries they still repair stuff rather than just replace.
I use a grinder or replace the whole arm
paid by the hour looks so much more fun
Все это проще делается болгаркой запиливается крест на заклепки потом
Так же зубилом сбивается заклепка мягкая а вот работа со снятием рычага доя того чтоб ремонт был дороже
In the rust belt they never punch out that easy
Lo bonito al taladrar es ver las dos virutas saliendo parejas de los dos labios de corte de la broca. En el video sale polvo y eso es que no corta bien, ni con lubricacion ni sin ella.
At least he knows whats doing
Delete this video, it's a joke. Real mechanic here
That’s how it’s supposed to be done. Great job.
Thank you very much
Tbh we just change the entire arm, because when the rear bush needs replacing the new arms mostly come with a new ball joint anyway
Looks like he has done this a time or two.
Нужен пресс и рука маркетолога,что бы на болтах не экономили😂
😊
I will better ask, why it doesent come with screws from factory?
Подшипник нужного диаметра и пресс,и бут счастье.
Вообще все неправильно. Можно достать легко!Ничего не повредив.! Аккуратно и быстрей.
Załóż rękawice ochronne, szkoda rąk.
Lol get the gas axe son I'd have it done while you were still trying to find 1 drill bit that ain't blunt
I liked the part when he replaces the ball joint.
Thank you
Шли годы он сверлил😂
Cudos to this dude. If it was me i would've gotten hella frustrated then crack under pressure and given up.
thank you friend 👍
Лишних действий, шарик от подшипника и пресс. Секундное дело.
Можно было с помощью обычного шарика от подшипников и пресса. Сам не раз так делал и делаю до сих пор
Сверла бы еще наточил кто нибудь, была бы песня
They sale the hole arms.. and Ball joints at Napa auto parts 👌👍
Меняю всю руку, так с завода заклепками идут и по одному не надо что то менять, поменял комплект и живешь пару лет без проблем
все правильно
Не,этим хватает шляпки срезать,керна хватит,то же на Ситроен было каком то,а вот с Фордом ток не проканает...😅
болгаркой режешь шляпку на 4-6 частей и сбиваешь зубилом, не снимая рычага
отличный вариант 👍
Шайбочки хорошие получились😊
Эти заклёпки прессом легко выпрессовываются
Wait, you can't just unbolt them like on my VW? Did the german engineers finally design a useful feature on my car?
Where you found the same ball join ? After you need to make it red hot with the hamme ?
Bolts would make a lot more sense
Oh hey Toyota uses bolts
Toyota has yuge engineering staff that specializes in reliability, serviceability
Uhhh. Some Toyotas you mean. On others they designed them to be replaced with the control arm and were astronomically expensive for a long time. Mk iv supras, soarers and Lexus SC300/400 all share the same chassis and at a time Lexus dealers sold the rear pair for almost $1200 and Toyota would sell you the same for about half the cost. The front was cheaper but still way overpriced. Even with the lower price points you can get them at these days it's still well worth it to modify the oem arms to take replaceable ball joints if not going to aftermarket arms.
На форде тоже также, инженерам безразлично как вы будете заменять деталь
Do your self a favor and wear gloves. They help save your hands from the shock of hammering.
Thanks a lot. We will definitely do it. Thanks for the good advice friend ! 👍😀
These are not as easy as it looks I promise I’m stuck doing this right now
Any real mechanic would be using a grinder and not a freaking drill
Incrible
Huh… you know those usually only pay a half hour right……..
Я в прессе выдавливал эти клепки сверху шарик от полшипника с нихюзу обойму
Сверла заточи !
😂
Кто вас учил бить в тисках 😢😢😢
Как все долго .. покажите ему болгарку … углошлифовальную машинку
6 months later the bushes need replaced. Yeah, we're replacing the arm with a new ball joint on it.
Pays 2 tenths warranty time.
Surgical precision
You do realize it probably only pays 1.0 hours to R&I that ball joint, right?
We use an air hammer with a chisel bit and do it right on the car
А про прес и балгарку забыли))))
I have a Mac Air hammer that would have those rivets screaming in agony in about 5 minutes!
Spending half a hour on a 50 euro control arm, just replace the whole thing
Poor Germans. In the US, we just go to O'Reilly's and get the entire thing replaced but not for Opel. No Opels in US.
Can also use a part of ball bearing. Накернил вместо сверла ложешь стальной щарик от подшипника меньшего размера и ложи на пресс и дави его. Саерлить не надо меньще пыли и быстрее. This trick works very good for me
Спасибо, надо попробовать с шариком