I don't think the adjustable is completely pointless, even if you can't use it for productivity. You might want a flat display for movies for example, or for some games, the flat might just makes more sense like a turn-based strategy while you might have preferred curved in an action type of games. If nothing else, then you can adjust the display to be less or more curve to your liking which is still a selling point. But well, the cost alone made it an unreasonable option for anyone to pick anyway honestly.
It would actually be a pretty good display for movies since most movies these days are 21:9 ratio and would look pretty nice on that larger screen size.
@@MistyKathrine your not wrong but I think it movies are your primary concern you would be better severed by a TV especially for the price. I have an ultrawide and find that sometimes content is optimized for 16:9 and it's just more of a pain to make it fill 21:9 and IMO OLED makes black bars on top and bottom of content a lot less of a problem.
I work as a translator using this monitor. Calling it “useless for productivity” is just not true. Its actually better for reading text than my Alienware DWF which I’m going to mount above the Xeneon as a secondary display.
I could definitely see wanting a curved display for racing games, flight/space sims, and anything you want more immersive. And it's nice you can flatten it out if you're taking a break from those types of experiences.
After using the flex for about 2 months as a productivity monitor / gaming setup it's pretty much the best of both worlds imo. The whole text clarity thing is noticeable(?) but hardly a deal breaker - it gives me the space I need as a second GIANT monitor for my work laptop during the day (basically just leave slack and email on the work side) and a monster gaming display at night. (I'm a consultant so I dont spend a ton of time just staring at spreadsheets - usually I'm just in one app or another on Chrome - so if you're codebreaking for the CIA in excel then ya, probably not for you.) One thing that wasn't mentioned was the benefit of a curved vs. flat monitor for different GAMES. I love RTS titles like TW:WH3, SC2, and XCOM2 and I dont really like a curve for those kind of titles. For FPS or more action oriented titles the curve is incredible. The other issue I kept hearing about in the video was the brightness - but I sit by a giant window in the day with the shade up and I never struggle to see anything on the monitor. At all. So I often wonder if all the talk about NITS is more theory than practice - because in practice the Flex is plenty bright in any scenario I can imagine short of sitting directly in front of a police spotlight. If you have the chance go see one in person - its first and foremost a gaming monitor no doubt. But fairly average productivity work its absolutely doable (and having the ability to curve one side independently is really nice in this case) and not at all difficult to achieve in any room that isn't directly on top of the sun.
he also did not mention the anti burn in features on the monitor that other reviewers have mentioned, i have ordered on and will arrive in a couple of days, after using a tv all these years it will do me just fine.
I've had mine for 1-2 months now and I absolutely love it. I got used to the low PPI for text and that was that, I love the 240hz, the bendable feature, the fact that its WOLED, gsync compatible, 800r curvature, and the anti burn in features are absolutely amazing and helpful. The image retention refresh makes it more comfortable to daily use it, same with the 3 year no dead pixel / no burn in warranty. Also most people want more than just tilt adjustment but with my OCD I am so glad you can only adjust the monitor facing up or down. When I had my LG 34" IPS I could never get it fully in the middle but with out all directions of adjustment I don't have to worry about it! And I never turn my PC off, I'm chronically on it (I have lung disease and can't do much so my PC is my life) and have had 0 issues with anything. Freaking love this monitor to the moon and back!
I have an electrically adjustable desk. I "adjusted" it precisely.....once.....and never touched it again. The worst money i've even spent. If you're going to use it often for the purpose it was built, fine, go for it, otherwise i personally advise against buying one. So why did i buy one? For a silly reason and a great deal of laziness, to be perfectly honest. I wanted a desk with 140x80cm (55x31in aprox.) (a fairly standard size for a medium/large desk in Europe), as that was the best measure and fit for the location i had reserved for it. I was too lazy to go to the trouble of building one, so i went to IKEA and the only desk they had with this size was this one. The price wasn't too bad so i went with it. It turns out that the height i prefer it at, is all the way down, so that's where i've set it, and never touched it again...
My AW3423DW is used purely for gaming in games that support 21:9. If I am browsing the web, watching UA-cam, films ( that don't have UW support ), I will just turn off the AW3423DW and go grab food, check phone, etc. The monitor will then fully turn off and make the second monitor the primary monitor. Every time I boot a game up or film on the OLED it blows me aways and makes games like cyberpunk look even more unreal.
I kinda do the same with my C2 42. I play and watch movies on it but when it comes to web browsing, hardware monitoring etc.... I leave those softwares open on a dedicated secondary display. Works great!
Completely agreed, lockable positions would be ideal. I just know that I would end up being annoyed that I could never get the screen back to the exact curvature I was used to if I were to ever adjust it. Perhaps that a mild OCD thing, but it would drive me nuts.
@@DarthChewie This is exactly why. 😄 They can still let it be adjustable between the lock positions but I would prefer them, it will make it easier as I reposition the monitor on my desk. Also annoyed it doesn't have a VESA mount, I am sure something can be worked out, it was lazy design, while sanding ludicrously high prices. If they want to ask such prices... It better come with everything.
I use this for my home office work as well as gaming and I love it. I have no issues with the text and use it to do translation work, basically working with text all day everyday. I prefer this over my Alienware DWF, particularly because the increased size at the same resolution actually makes the text easier to read and I can get the same performance gaming at 3440x1440 with a bigger screen. I don't agree at all that this monitor can't be used for productivity.
I honestly think the text on my 48inch lg c1 looks sharp and crispy but even more so since when you're using dark mode its just white text on a dark background and it looks even better! All other advantages are so ridiculously big to even consider using anything else but a OLED screen imo. I have other screens but they just die in comparison to the oled screen! I just f***in LOVE it!!!
I've had this monitor for about 8 months or so and I've got to say for gaming It's the best monitor I've ever owned by a long shot. Now I don't use it for productivity much and when have on occasion I have to agree, the text clarity is kinda bad. I mainly use it for gaming or UA-cam videos for the most part. I have a secondary 27" for web browsing and discord. Also he was correct in that I've picked a curvature and just kept it there for the most part. TBH I probably should have bought the LG version of this monitor but I liked the built in USB connectivity so I bit the bullet and bought this one instead.
IT was the marketing for that monitor who made buy the LG OLED FLEX wich is by far the best screen i've ever had in my life knowing i'm an early adopter of new tech and i've seen a lot. I come from the first 4k 27" 120 hz that was released a while ago and i couldn't see my self go to to lower res especially on bigger screens. Going from 27" to 42" was already a huge change in my user habits and i couldn't see going to 1440P on a 48". Still those 240 hz might be useful for ultra competitive gamers. Anyway, hope you get to test the LG OLED FLEX since your rewiew are really good.
As soon as I saw this at announcement, I was pretty hyped. What killed it was the panel itself, the lack of VESA support, and the lower resolution causing low DPI. Should be much better for the asking price.
I think all reviews, at least going forward, should mention text clarity, text aliasing and pixel format (RGB or BGR). This information is very important for professionals looking for a monitor that perhaps is good for occasional gaming also. For example I would have really love if you made the same mentions about text that you made here, on the 3840x1600 monitors you reviewed. I'm a software developer and sometimes I like to play a game or two, but looking at text all day is mainly what I do.
I look at text all day, from scanned handwritten documents that are 50 years old to pdfs and everything in between and I have zero issues. If you’re using a monitor for work, the amount of time you spend going “ooo look how crisp that text is” is about 30 seconds and then you get on with your work. There’s nothing about being a software developer or programmer that means you have special requirements for text sharpness. You’re looking at exactly the same letters as everyone else in the world.
26:30 "A version of this [...] at a higher resolution at a 45 inch size would be much more compelling" THAT. THAT'S the monitor I'm waiting for. Come on, manufacturers - listen to this guy!
Bad pixel density and text rendering makes it bad for general PC usage. Bad HDMI port choice makes it pair poorly with popular consoles. Who is this for?
I wonder when they will start making 3840x1600 Oled monitors, that’s the only thing putting me off atm (apart from the price) I have a 3840x1600 38” ultrawide atm… don’t won’t to lose the size / res.
Just get a 42/43 inch 16:9 u can make custom 3840x1600 ress and have a 38'' ultra wide with black borders. But you can also switch back to 16:9 for productivity or watching movies or youtube. You get best of both worlds, just without a curve. Have not seen any of this sise with a curve yet apart from the 4000$ lg flex.
@@xcom9648 this is true, but I want a monitor as oppose to a TV… for productivity a TV is not as good (at least they never were, I’m sure the oled 4K TV’s are a lot closer to being now though), needs to be an all rounder…
@@jonfitton3021 I currently use a gigabyte aorus fv43u it is not oled but for 650 bucks it is much cheaper and does not come with the downsides of oled. It is also cheaper the many of the ultra wides and not a tv.
LG are supposed to have a curved OLED monitor coming out in the future - with a motorized screen - no manual handling - I hope to see you review this one when and if it comes to the market.
Some of the early models LG had up at tech shows had their motors break lol; does well to show off the biggest weakness of the monitor- imagine the motor breaks while it at an angle you don't want and now it's stuck and you can no longer get it back in the box for RMA
Very good feature. Only downside I would not buy this due to monitor being super wide and big and PPI is not much. Yes, I agree Tim a smaller version of this would be nice. Great review as always :)
As a Content consumption monitor, Corsair is actually done a genius move here. The technology isn't really that hard to implement, the screen is flexible on its own, we already have folding phones. It means they can ship a curved monitor in a flat monitor space. Imagine translating this technology to smaller monitors, into a 27-inch monitor or a 34-inch monitor. Hopefully they have a 4K version soon, as the 1440p version is a very odd resolution. I still bought it anyway, and I will upgrade to the 4k version when it comes out.
It’s close to 83 PPI, not 78, but still, it changes nothing - it’s just bad. Good review, as usual 👍 BTW, how did you perceive the low pixel density in games?
I think 83 is actually pretty close to the sweet spot for work related stuff. There are too many apps that don't seem to scale well at higher PPIs and at 80-85PPI I can usually keep the display at 100% scaling and actually be able to read stuff. For extra "sharpness" in games, you can always do DSR or DLDSR, assuming you have a good GPU (if you're spending $2000 on a monitor, I'm going to assume you do)
its fine I have the lg 45'' model and keeping it once 4k 240hz oled comes out its gonna be a game changer I prefer using this over my oled 4k 120hz the sheer speed of oled at 240hz I put a 4 year best buy warranty on mine so covered for burn in or anything
@@ThaexakaMavro Only if you have the screen 6 inches away from you. If you're sitting a reasonable 24+ inches away like most people it's no issue at all.
I am surprised that they didn't do 3840, and obviously that lets you put more on the screen when doing productivity or browsing etc. I expect second generation will give that. I think 45 is a bit big as well, perhaps a 40 inch or so at 3840 is the sweet spot. I have a 3840x1600 monitor from LG, I have always resented those stolen pixels from me with the 1440 ones... probably irrational :)
It would be quite nice to have a commonly used and understood number for pixels per.. degree of view? Something to put pixel density into perspective for how far you're actually sitting and experiencing the display, essentially. Generally information around "optimal" viewing distances feels like it's quite lacking, and I've found that many people get really into PPI and density when at times it can be like comparing apples to oranges. 90 PPI on a 24", 27" display will feel very different from the same density on a 55" TV by virtue of you sitting so much closer, so as a sole number it's just not very useful. Compare even a 4K 27" panel at 163 PPI to a Macbook Pro 14's 254 PPI and, on paper, it should be unusably worse - but you don't sit anywhere as close to the screen in this scenario. For an even starker scenario, take the Galaxy S23 Ultra's 500 PPI which is just completely stupidly dense but still attracts a lot of attention in marketing. Now those are just some very obviously extreme fringe cases, but I'm just trying to illustrate the principle. People are looking for a simple number, but then fail to contextualise it and that's quite sad. For context: I sit at around 80cm from my monitor since I have a deeper desk and put it on an arm. That makes my own experience of the same pixel density quite different than some of my friends' who will have for example only a 60cm desk and actually sit into it for what is then a 40cm viewing distance - hence my being fine even with a 4K 48" TV with a meagerly 92 PPI where to them that sounds completely unacceptable (and then prompts the aforementioned Macbook/"retina" argument). Bit of a personal gripe, and I wish there was a bit more perspective and education here also as many people's viewing habits are.. ergonomically questionable, at times. That being said, imagine if this had a 3840x1600 resolution (92 PPI) or higher, like 5120x2160 (123 PPI). That would be an absolute dream.
Agreed. I'm using the LG version of this panel and I fixed the low PPI issue by moving the display further back. Sitting around 40" (1 meter) from the center of the monitor, the screen takes up the same proportion of your vision as if you were sitting 30" (75cm) away from a 34-inch monitor like the Alienware/Samsung models. At this distance, the effective PPI to your retina is the same. In practice, sitting closer than 1m to a panel as large as this is quite unnatural anyhow, as you have to start turning your head side-to-side. So from a natural viewing distance, the PPI is a non-issue The subpixel layout is the more annoying issue, but it isn't as bad once you get used to it, as long as you are not using it for office work/productivity
for person who like atmosphere while gaming and play only in dark, this is dream monitor, ive got it and i love it, bought DP 2.0 cable, and throught CRU set up higher pixel clock at 1408 Mhz at stable refresh rate of 244hz and its great in terms of response time- there is still motion blur but its due to refresh rate-but not like ghosting. And when playing in dark its useless to have brightness, cause its too hard for eyes then
When I heard 45” OMG YES!!! Finally! But it follows with 3440x1440… God no we stuck at this resolution far too long. 5120x2160 needs to be mass already.
@@jlgroovetek Maybe I am on the wrong channel. I will come clean and say that I am not a gamer. I don't play games on my computer. The only game I play is Pokemon Go. The reason I would like 5120x2160p with a high refresh rate of at least 100Hz. Because once you go above 60Hz. I can't see my screen with no lag anymore. And I love 21:9 despite there being no proper support from Apple regarding the HiDPI. And the monitor with color accuracy above 90% with 10 Bit panel is great. My work is just typical stuff, but I need color accuracy for media consumption and peace of mind. Also, the pixel density and the size of the screen play huge roles for my experience while using the monitor.
See, I respect the conclusion of "this is really convenient for those with multiple needs and no specific preference, if you have one, the monitor will be capable of providing it", but also I can't believe that this will be the slice of the monitor market that ends up as the majority. Disregarding costs and features and whatnot, I would think that both curved and flat panels would benefit from focused development in the future. When monitors can afford to be coated in glass as the glossy option, or when someone makes a glass-esque material without glare that curved monitors can benefit from, or for the features I disregarded (like turning and rotating; flexible monitors would have to consider the maximum dimensions for turning, right? So, the minimum height adjustment on a rotatable flexible panel may leave a lot of space below it when curved, because it's considering the flattest configuration, that sort of thing). Not to mention, flexible panel technology will always have the unusual issue of durability. My monitors may have their hinge or height adjustment springs eroded, but the screens will be as well kept as I can avoid touching them. If I'm repeatedly creasing my monitor, that means a third thing to go wrong in a few years or so. As interesting as this technology is, I would just hope for a monitor market like the keyboard market: every variation you can think of, and multiple ways to customise. Like, we have plenty of room to grow in that manner; imagine being able to select a monitor stand that has only swivel, or swivel and tilt, or both and rotation. Imagine being able to select the full bezel frame, or no bezel frame, etc. *That* would be a development, and that *should* be the development that all computer parts lean towards. Costs and manufacturing issues aside, anyway; I'm sure keyboards get away with it for being rather simple and consistent, to a degree.
Is this cut from the same panel as 55" 4K OLEDs by LG Display? The PPIs are almost identical. If so, they should be able to go brighter than smaller monitors, like the 55" and up OLED TVs can.
Most likely yes. The ultrawide OLEDs exist as a way to make use of leftovers from the mother glass when they are cutting the other screens. But yeah, the low brightness on the Corsair is weird, might be a result of this being Corsair's first OLED and they haven't figured out how to get the most out of the panel on the software side yet.
Hi Tim, could you please mention BFI in your reviews. I've noticed you've been leaving it out lately. Manufacturers seem to be ignoring it the last while, LG in particular haven't included it since the CX and C1 series. This is worrying for the niche group of us out there who really care about this feature, especially since OLED's are suited to doing it well. All the best.
The flexible curve is technically not a benefit for the consumer, if we assume the consumer knows what curve he exactly wants. It's the benefit of the manufacturer in that all of a sudden the same monitor can handle all consumers that want that type of monitor, but at varying curves. Most consumers will set the curve once and forget about it, some will shift between flat and curved but will be in the minority.
Will wait until "version 2 now with VESA Support!" before I take this monitor seriously as a purchase decision. However, I do believe it is a step in the right direction in the sense that the customer can choose between curve or not depending on what is being displayed. I also agree that the PPI needs to be around 110 for me to consider it seriously (mine currently is 108).
it will be challenging to fit a fixed vest mount to a product that bends, they could only fit the mount to the stand as all the electronics of the device are actually in the stand itself as circuit board dont bend
3:52 I'm not going to be able to see the whole thing because I'm blind in my left eye. The only exception is when it comes to watching movies and I don't mind having it flat. The only reason why I might buy this Flex monitor is for seeing a small minimap with a very small, hard-to-see compass like in Final Fantasy XV. I would still play games and do productivity work mostly using a 16x9 resolution or better yet, 4x3. Of course, the 4x3 aspect ratio might seem tiny for most people but for me, if the height of the screen really matters and not the width when reading documents, a 4x3 ratio would work just fine for me as long as the monitor does not stretch to fill the entire screen. Oh, and unless I am wrong, I won't be able to VESA-mount the monitor. Maybe one day the technology will improve to the point where the monitor can flex while having it VESA-mounted. I actually have a 15.6" UPERFECT 4K OLED monitor VESA-mounted to my monitor arm with a VESA-to-tablet converter and it worked out well for me. My 15.6" monitor is very close to me and the field of view is perfect even when magnified using GNOME Magnifier for Linux, Windows Magnifier for Windows, and Zoom for Mac.
I been living with this monitor for about a week now. One of my biggest concerns was the DPI since it was so low. But since it’s so large, you need to sit back farther to really take it in. And once you start playing a game, it’s not noticeable (at least to me). Games look amazing and the lower DPI allow me to hit those higher frame rates with my 3080. So I’ll take the trade off. I had the AW34 OLED before this one. While it was a great monitor, I couldn’t stand the fan noise, it was too much, even when I wasn’t using it, it still hummed so I returned it. If any of you guys are worried about the DPI, believe me, you won’t notice it. Or my eye site has gotten worse hitting the big 3 O. Great reviews as always. Keep it up guys!
Hey. I do have the same Alienware OLED and looking at the Corsair. Are you still using it? Is your opinion still the same? Would you still recommend it? And you are absolutely right, that fan in Alienware can go really crazy.
@@79maykee I actually ended up returning it due to HDR not working on it. I messaged Corsair about and they stated that they knew about the issue but won’t be able to fix it anytime soon. For the premium price, everything should work. I ended up getting a LG C3 42’ television as my mine monitor. I definitely miss the ultra wide but the colors of the TV are the best I’ve seen next to the Alienware QD-OLED. I’ll have to say that was my favorite ultra wide monitor I’ve had. I would have kept it, if it wasn’t for the damn fan.
@@cmdnoob thanks for taking time to respond. I was actually thinking about getting C3 vs Corsair and yesterday I pulled the trigger on the ultrawide. The aspect ratio was one of my main deciding factors. HDR does not work correctly with windows 11 and Alienware as well so I would be able to live with that. My main concern is still the PPI. I guess I will have to wait and see. Literally
@@79maykee for sure dude, happy I can help. Funny thing was that HDR worked great on the AW ultra wide. Halo infinite was jaw dropping. Did not get the same effect with the Corsair since HDR didn’t work on it. I hope it works out better for you than it did for me. It’s a great monitor but everything should work for that price range. Best of luck on finding the perfect monitor!
I could live withut the VESA mount, but no height adjustment seems like a REAL oversight that I can't deal with. I am tall and ALWAYS need to move my monitors to the highest setting possible most of the time.
Tim, Shouldn't it theoretically be possible to install a coding for the subpixel layout in the OS, just as you can install a color profile for your monitor ? OLED's have been around for quite a while now. Should think some bright minds had come up with a solution to the text problem by now or at least be working on the issue. I would take just a posibillity to select different modes dependent if you are using dektop mode or film/HDR/Gaming mode. It's quite annoying when pretty much everything else than text clarity is in OLED's favor compared to normal LCD panels.
The low ppi kept me from buying this and I'm glad I bought the Alienware in addition to my 34gp83ab instead. Desk stand just arrived and I stacked the former on top of the latter. Holy fuck it's so amazing lol
Thank you for pointing out the HDMI 2.1 ports not being 48 Gbps; it's a pity it doesn't have Displayport 2.0. I'm guessing that both are due to an internal processing chip. I note that the base seems to be a separate part: can you remove it to stack two of these monitors?
@@mainsource8030 Actually I did watch it. He did not cover that specific aspect. I suspect you may be misinterpreting what I mean by base. I mean purely the angled bit at the bottom, not the cuboid stand.
Brightness is too low. Qd-oled is x1.5 brighter. gen 2 qd-oled already having x2 - 300 nits of brightness and hdr true black 500 240 hz and 2 ms input lag are great! you can bend this screen? Not needed - go for a glossy display and 250 nit brightness at least with 100% white window. Price is 2 big. 700-800$ would be fine imo. Great video mr Tim, but the monitor is ... meh. Great to see some innovation - but on wrong directions
Looks great the Lg45" is the same monitor but at a fixed 800R curve . also has an adjustable base and a versa mount and cheaper but that 800R may be too much ? the pixel density is my problem I dont do that much text but photo editing shame there isnt a 38"-40 " 1000R curved 4K at 166hz that great for gaming and HDR lol
Didn‘t you notice VRR flicker? Since i have the monitor my eyes are extremely tired and having headache. Then, after a month i notice this flicker, not only at the menu.
Not worth the price tbh. I returned mine within a week, the PPI was way too low especially for being that close its very noticeable. The OLED panel can barely save this monitor. I did enjoy being able to adjust the curve of the screen and the stand is easily one of the best out there but the monitor just doesn't scream $2,000 USD for me. Returned it and bought a LG C2 instead
I'm know I'm going to get slammed for my opinion, but here it is anyway, because free country damnit. I have a 32 monitor, and I personally found that I don't think I'd like a larger display. I have the monitor at the extreme rear of my desk, and don't think I'd be comfortable with a 45 inch display. It's just too big for how close it will be on a desk. This is just my opinion, and having choices of products is what makes tech innovation great. I'd like to eventually upgrade to an OLED panel some day, but I don't think I'll be in the market for a larger display. I do think the bending panel technology is very interesting, especially as I'm currently on the fence regarding curved monitors, since I've never seen one in person. Great video.
i hope this is a product that gets iterated & copied by other brands, maybe even get a VESA mount compatible copycat down the line, or a later version that uses a knob for the curve adjustment
@Kotz Totz stable 120hz is awesome, especially coming from a sub 80Hz experience, but for that market there are already great options below $300 so a flexible display wouldn't be profitable.
So far all LG OLED monitors have had 240hz refresh rates; I think it's just a given that they refresh this fast and that there wouldn't be much cost-cutting allowed if they were to limit refresh rates to 120/165hz.
cant understand that critics on DPI, i play only on 2560x1080 to reach 244hz/fps and i dont need to make it higher. Played Far Cry4, Someday youll return and Doom2016 and no need to play at default resolution
Maybe low pixel density (78PPI) is corelated to flex ability. Maybe this can't be more pixel density becouse of this curve and flat position user can chose.
Would it be possible to review the newly released AOC Agon Pro AG274QZM. I am looking to obtain this monitor as been waiting for something solid with mini-led technology 2k 240hz HDR 1000 with ok price.
With the amount of RWBG pixel layout monitors out there don't we expect windows to start accounting for them for their text clarity calibration tool? Actually I don't know if that can be different when you have for example 2 different monitors
It's great that you compare brightness between all other OLED monitors. People are very divided on whether it's enough or not, making it very controversial and difficult to make a decision. In my opinion even the brightest QD-OLED from samsung is just barely passable.
I had the pg27aqn, aw3423dw, lg 45gr95qe and i have to say the xeneon flex brightness is plenty. Its around 50% of the pg27aqn which was waaaay too bright for me. The LG 45 oled was surprisingly less bright for whatever reason than the xeneon flex
Xeneon Flex vs LG 45gr95qe? Which one would you go? I have hard time deciding. Leaning towards lg because its way cheaper but im not sure about the r800 curve. I have Samsung G7 32 inch at the moment and i love it and the R1000 curve but... 45 inch at R800 sounds like maybe too much.
@@jaybee0507 800r is actually excellent because of the size. The Xeneon flex does get brighter too. I returned the LG because it wasnt bright enough and only came with one year warranty. The xeneon has 3. Worth the extra
Pixel layout is normal for OLED and that PPI is honestly not bad. Similar PPI to a 27'' 1920x1080p screen or a 55'' 3840x2160 screen, both of which I'm currently using as my current desktop screens. I think 80-85PPI is the sweet spot between sharpness and text actually being large enough to read at 100% scaling.
@@MistyKathrine OOF. Personally that sounds terrible. I just tested out a 48", 49.5", and a 50" 4k and it was a terrible experience. I could see the gap in between pixels on all of them. Only the 48" was usable. A 42"-43" 4k is probably the lowest I'll ever go ppi
i really enjoy your videos thank you.. i was wondering which one of this monitors will be your choice since my gaming pc is old (gtx 980,x99 motherboard,i 75820) and i'm using dual monitor setup 24 inch 1080p but im hoping to but new pc soon + i dont like most of the new games today so ... *''MSI Optix G272CQP Curved WQHD 170Hz 27 *''MSI Optix MAG321QR WQHD 165Hz G-Sync RGB 31.5 thx
I wonder why they decided to not use a higher resolution for this monitor. It was clear from day one that it had to be a higher pixel density. Maybe they thought that had they made a 5k monitor just those with a 4090 could have been interested, but being an expensive monitor that's already the kind of customer that would buy it right now. Well, I hope they will continue to make bendable monitors because as you said, it's clearly useful.
I have the new LG version of this monitor and honestly, I don't notice the pixel density (or lack there of). I work and game on the monitor. Now *caveat* I do notice the pixel density issue when working on spreadsheets. However, I got over it in an hour and weeks later do not notice at all. Favorite monitor I've ever had.
It's Not 1440p (2560×1440p, it's ultrawide 3440×1440p, you've got to consider total pixel count, when not 16×9, or like my set three 1440p monitors in Surround screen. 5k=14.7 MP (Million Pixels) - 3×1440p=11.1 MP, - 4k=8.3 MP - Ultrawide 3440×1440=5 MP - 1440p=3.7 MP - 1080p=2.1 MP, a 27"@4k Panel exists, so it's not Pixel Density now. Ray Tracing @ 4k+Ultra+Native is unviable (Maybe 4090), and many more people are waiting on a Flat 1440p OLED, I have a 3080 Ti for Ultra+Ray Tracing @ 1440p Native. I won't upscale Res (DLAA Only), so I'm not in the market for anything except a flat 1440p, which is not a resolution TV's use, so has no dual usage market, I'm still waiting.
@@uhurunuru6609 when I've said 5k I used the term in a very loose way. What I mean is a 4k resolution in terms of height and for width a number of pixel good for a ultrawide format. A 4k with additional lateral area.
When Win11 is set to SDR and i start Cyberpunk 2077, the HDR options (scRGB, PQ) aren‘t available. So everytime i wanna use HDR in that game i have to press Win+Alt+B. In Battlefield V the monitor automatically switches to HDR. Though, Win11 is asking to use Auto-HDR. Why is it asking/offer that option when BFV has native HDR?
I don't think the adjustable is completely pointless, even if you can't use it for productivity. You might want a flat display for movies for example, or for some games, the flat might just makes more sense like a turn-based strategy while you might have preferred curved in an action type of games. If nothing else, then you can adjust the display to be less or more curve to your liking which is still a selling point.
But well, the cost alone made it an unreasonable option for anyone to pick anyway honestly.
It would actually be a pretty good display for movies since most movies these days are 21:9 ratio and would look pretty nice on that larger screen size.
@@MistyKathrine your not wrong but I think it movies are your primary concern you would be better severed by a TV especially for the price. I have an ultrawide and find that sometimes content is optimized for 16:9 and it's just more of a pain to make it fill 21:9 and IMO OLED makes black bars on top and bottom of content a lot less of a problem.
I work as a translator using this monitor. Calling it “useless for productivity” is just not true. Its actually better for reading text than my Alienware DWF which I’m going to mount above the Xeneon as a secondary display.
@@moriyokiri3229 Yeah, I use the LG C1 55'' and it has a similar PPI to this screen and I think text clarity is fine.
I could definitely see wanting a curved display for racing games, flight/space sims, and anything you want more immersive. And it's nice you can flatten it out if you're taking a break from those types of experiences.
After using the flex for about 2 months as a productivity monitor / gaming setup it's pretty much the best of both worlds imo. The whole text clarity thing is noticeable(?) but hardly a deal breaker - it gives me the space I need as a second GIANT monitor for my work laptop during the day (basically just leave slack and email on the work side) and a monster gaming display at night. (I'm a consultant so I dont spend a ton of time just staring at spreadsheets - usually I'm just in one app or another on Chrome - so if you're codebreaking for the CIA in excel then ya, probably not for you.)
One thing that wasn't mentioned was the benefit of a curved vs. flat monitor for different GAMES. I love RTS titles like TW:WH3, SC2, and XCOM2 and I dont really like a curve for those kind of titles. For FPS or more action oriented titles the curve is incredible. The other issue I kept hearing about in the video was the brightness - but I sit by a giant window in the day with the shade up and I never struggle to see anything on the monitor. At all. So I often wonder if all the talk about NITS is more theory than practice - because in practice the Flex is plenty bright in any scenario I can imagine short of sitting directly in front of a police spotlight. If you have the chance go see one in person - its first and foremost a gaming monitor no doubt. But fairly average productivity work its absolutely doable (and having the ability to curve one side independently is really nice in this case) and not at all difficult to achieve in any room that isn't directly on top of the sun.
he also did not mention the anti burn in features on the monitor that other reviewers have mentioned, i have ordered on and will arrive in a couple of days, after using a tv all these years it will do me just fine.
@@andre-dx4yw After 4 months of heavy daily use I can attest to the fact that this thing rules - wouldn't go with anything else.
@@ViciousMachineWaifus mine arrives tomorrow thanks for the replies mate.all the best
I've had mine for 1-2 months now and I absolutely love it. I got used to the low PPI for text and that was that, I love the 240hz, the bendable feature, the fact that its WOLED, gsync compatible, 800r curvature, and the anti burn in features are absolutely amazing and helpful. The image retention refresh makes it more comfortable to daily use it, same with the 3 year no dead pixel / no burn in warranty. Also most people want more than just tilt adjustment but with my OCD I am so glad you can only adjust the monitor facing up or down. When I had my LG 34" IPS I could never get it fully in the middle but with out all directions of adjustment I don't have to worry about it! And I never turn my PC off, I'm chronically on it (I have lung disease and can't do much so my PC is my life) and have had 0 issues with anything. Freaking love this monitor to the moon and back!
Bendable monitor is cool. Reminds me of adjustable desk. Also helps to get all curved monitors in line
It is extremely clumsy done on the Corsair model tho. LG's version is much better designed
@@mrdali67 agreed, but isn't the LG $3000?
Bendable screens are amazing. Can't wait to see what the future holds.
I have an electrically adjustable desk.
I "adjusted" it precisely.....once.....and never touched it again.
The worst money i've even spent.
If you're going to use it often for the purpose it was built, fine, go for it, otherwise i personally advise against buying one.
So why did i buy one?
For a silly reason and a great deal of laziness, to be perfectly honest.
I wanted a desk with 140x80cm (55x31in aprox.) (a fairly standard size for a medium/large desk in Europe), as that was the best measure and fit for the location i had reserved for it.
I was too lazy to go to the trouble of building one, so i went to IKEA and the only desk they had with this size was this one.
The price wasn't too bad so i went with it.
It turns out that the height i prefer it at, is all the way down, so that's where i've set it, and never touched it again...
@@00Resev because it is not what people actually need. We need comfort
These reviews of budget monitors are great!
😂 bum life
Lol get it cause it’s expensive good joke
they are budget compared to pro models...
Yea, all THE RX 580 and GTX 1660 owners are going to get one of these 😩👌
He/she did not say "low" bugget
This is a great revision 1 of a product. I can't wait to see what an update to it looks like.
My AW3423DW is used purely for gaming in games that support 21:9. If I am browsing the web, watching UA-cam, films ( that don't have UW support ), I will just turn off the AW3423DW and go grab food, check phone, etc. The monitor will then fully turn off and make the second monitor the primary monitor. Every time I boot a game up or film on the OLED it blows me aways and makes games like cyberpunk look even more unreal.
I kinda do the same with my C2 42. I play and watch movies on it but when it comes to web browsing, hardware monitoring etc.... I leave those softwares open on a dedicated secondary display. Works great!
you are a lucky owner. i will hunt for qd-oled ver2 monitor. but aw3423dw looks great, if there were not so much qc problems with it
Ohhh that's a great idea. I think I will do that as well. Thank you 😊
Love the Flex idea, perhaps they should have several lock positions.
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Also, height adjustment is a must.
Completely agreed, lockable positions would be ideal. I just know that I would end up being annoyed that I could never get the screen back to the exact curvature I was used to if I were to ever adjust it. Perhaps that a mild OCD thing, but it would drive me nuts.
@@DarthChewie
This is exactly why. 😄
They can still let it be adjustable between the lock positions but I would prefer them, it will make it easier as I reposition the monitor on my desk.
Also annoyed it doesn't have a VESA mount, I am sure something can be worked out, it was lazy design, while sanding ludicrously high prices. If they want to ask such prices... It better come with everything.
An independent, honest and accurate review as always. You provide amazing value to the consumers. Well done!
I use this for my home office work as well as gaming and I love it. I have no issues with the text and use it to do translation work, basically working with text all day everyday. I prefer this over my Alienware DWF, particularly because the increased size at the same resolution actually makes the text easier to read and I can get the same performance gaming at 3440x1440 with a bigger screen.
I don't agree at all that this monitor can't be used for productivity.
You're a lucky man with two OLED monitors at more than $1200 each ^^
I seen the DWF is much brighter though ? I am trying to decide between the two
Ive been waiting so long for your review on this one. Thank you for your great content!!
I honestly think the text on my 48inch lg c1 looks sharp and crispy but even more so since when you're using dark mode its just white text on a dark background and it looks even better! All other advantages are so ridiculously big to even consider using anything else but a OLED screen imo. I have other screens but they just die in comparison to the oled screen! I just f***in LOVE it!!!
I've had this monitor for about 8 months or so and I've got to say for gaming It's the best monitor I've ever owned by a long shot. Now I don't use it for productivity much and when have on occasion I have to agree, the text clarity is kinda bad. I mainly use it for gaming or UA-cam videos for the most part. I have a secondary 27" for web browsing and discord. Also he was correct in that I've picked a curvature and just kept it there for the most part. TBH I probably should have bought the LG version of this monitor but I liked the built in USB connectivity so I bit the bullet and bought this one instead.
IT was the marketing for that monitor who made buy the LG OLED FLEX wich is by far the best screen i've ever had in my life knowing i'm an early adopter of new tech and i've seen a lot.
I come from the first 4k 27" 120 hz that was released a while ago and i couldn't see my self go to to lower res especially on bigger screens.
Going from 27" to 42" was already a huge change in my user habits and i couldn't see going to 1440P on a 48". Still those 240 hz might be useful for ultra competitive gamers.
Anyway, hope you get to test the LG OLED FLEX since your rewiew are really good.
As soon as I saw this at announcement, I was pretty hyped. What killed it was the panel itself, the lack of VESA support, and the lower resolution causing low DPI. Should be much better for the asking price.
I think all reviews, at least going forward, should mention text clarity, text aliasing and pixel format (RGB or BGR). This information is very important for professionals looking for a monitor that perhaps is good for occasional gaming also. For example I would have really love if you made the same mentions about text that you made here, on the 3840x1600 monitors you reviewed. I'm a software developer and sometimes I like to play a game or two, but looking at text all day is mainly what I do.
I look at text all day, from scanned handwritten documents that are 50 years old to pdfs and everything in between and I have zero issues. If you’re using a monitor for work, the amount of time you spend going “ooo look how crisp that text is” is about 30 seconds and then you get on with your work. There’s nothing about being a software developer or programmer that means you have special requirements for text sharpness. You’re looking at exactly the same letters as everyone else in the world.
@@moriyokiri3229 I'm sorry but I beg to differ. Perhaps I look differently at my text.
@@PaulSebastianM You "look at your text differently"? 😂
or Microsoft could update clear type to support more subpixel layouts. but who cares, right, better make the start menu worse next Update.
Have you done the LG 45 OLED review or plan to? Love your content!
26:30 "A version of this [...] at a higher resolution at a 45 inch size would be much more compelling" THAT. THAT'S the monitor I'm waiting for. Come on, manufacturers - listen to this guy!
Bad pixel density and text rendering makes it bad for general PC usage.
Bad HDMI port choice makes it pair poorly with popular consoles.
Who is this for?
this is really cool, id love this combined with a higher resolution
The price is insane , where I live for what Flex costs I can buy LG C2 42" and RTX 4090
Yeah, that's my thoughts. Can literally buy a C2 AND a high end GPU for the same price.
i bought it and im happy :)
in uk the monitor is £1600 and the rtx4090 costs that's much
I like the idea. Maybe someday we won't have to use curvature as a deciding factor between OLED monitors
should have made this 40 inch instead, at least the PPI on that is basically the same as the E-sports standard of 24" 1080p
I wonder when they will start making 3840x1600 Oled monitors, that’s the only thing putting me off atm (apart from the price) I have a 3840x1600 38” ultrawide atm… don’t won’t to lose the size / res.
Just get a 42/43 inch 16:9 u can make custom 3840x1600 ress and have a 38'' ultra wide with black borders. But you can also switch back to 16:9 for productivity or watching movies or youtube. You get best of both worlds, just without a curve. Have not seen any of this sise with a curve yet apart from the 4000$ lg flex.
@@xcom9648 Yeah I think thats also the best option, which I use. But I WANT A CURVE! :'(
@@xcom9648 this is true, but I want a monitor as oppose to a TV… for productivity a TV is not as good (at least they never were, I’m sure the oled 4K TV’s are a lot closer to being now though), needs to be an all rounder…
@@jonfitton3021 I currently use a gigabyte aorus fv43u it is not oled but for 650 bucks it is much cheaper and does not come with the downsides of oled. It is also cheaper the many of the ultra wides and not a tv.
LG are supposed to have a curved OLED monitor coming out in the future - with a motorized screen - no manual handling - I hope to see you review this one when and if it comes to the market.
Some of the early models LG had up at tech shows had their motors break lol; does well to show off the biggest weakness of the monitor- imagine the motor breaks while it at an angle you don't want and now it's stuck and you can no longer get it back in the box for RMA
@@ms3862 LG Loves making their displays hard to put back in the box, had to break off the feet from my lg c2 to put it back in the box for rma.
Very good feature. Only downside I would not buy this due to monitor being super wide and big and PPI is not much. Yes, I agree Tim a smaller version of this would be nice. Great review as always :)
Pls also review the LG Ultragear 45
As a Content consumption monitor, Corsair is actually done a genius move here. The technology isn't really that hard to implement, the screen is flexible on its own, we already have folding phones. It means they can ship a curved monitor in a flat monitor space. Imagine translating this technology to smaller monitors, into a 27-inch monitor or a 34-inch monitor. Hopefully they have a 4K version soon, as the 1440p version is a very odd resolution. I still bought it anyway, and I will upgrade to the 4k version when it comes out.
It’s close to 83 PPI, not 78, but still, it changes nothing - it’s just bad. Good review, as usual 👍 BTW, how did you perceive the low pixel density in games?
I think 83 is actually pretty close to the sweet spot for work related stuff. There are too many apps that don't seem to scale well at higher PPIs and at 80-85PPI I can usually keep the display at 100% scaling and actually be able to read stuff. For extra "sharpness" in games, you can always do DSR or DLDSR, assuming you have a good GPU (if you're spending $2000 on a monitor, I'm going to assume you do)
its fine I have the lg 45'' model and keeping it once 4k 240hz oled comes out its gonna be a game changer I prefer using this over my oled 4k 120hz the sheer speed of oled at 240hz I put a 4 year best buy warranty on mine so covered for burn in or anything
@@MistyKathrine just a bit lower anything under 90dpi is kinda blurry
@@ThaexakaMavro Only if you have the screen 6 inches away from you. If you're sitting a reasonable 24+ inches away like most people it's no issue at all.
I am surprised that they didn't do 3840, and obviously that lets you put more on the screen when doing productivity or browsing etc. I expect second generation will give that.
I think 45 is a bit big as well, perhaps a 40 inch or so at 3840 is the sweet spot.
I have a 3840x1600 monitor from LG, I have always resented those stolen pixels from me with the 1440 ones... probably irrational :)
It would be quite nice to have a commonly used and understood number for pixels per.. degree of view? Something to put pixel density into perspective for how far you're actually sitting and experiencing the display, essentially.
Generally information around "optimal" viewing distances feels like it's quite lacking, and I've found that many people get really into PPI and density when at times it can be like comparing apples to oranges. 90 PPI on a 24", 27" display will feel very different from the same density on a 55" TV by virtue of you sitting so much closer, so as a sole number it's just not very useful. Compare even a 4K 27" panel at 163 PPI to a Macbook Pro 14's 254 PPI and, on paper, it should be unusably worse - but you don't sit anywhere as close to the screen in this scenario. For an even starker scenario, take the Galaxy S23 Ultra's 500 PPI which is just completely stupidly dense but still attracts a lot of attention in marketing.
Now those are just some very obviously extreme fringe cases, but I'm just trying to illustrate the principle. People are looking for a simple number, but then fail to contextualise it and that's quite sad.
For context: I sit at around 80cm from my monitor since I have a deeper desk and put it on an arm. That makes my own experience of the same pixel density quite different than some of my friends' who will have for example only a 60cm desk and actually sit into it for what is then a 40cm viewing distance - hence my being fine even with a 4K 48" TV with a meagerly 92 PPI where to them that sounds completely unacceptable (and then prompts the aforementioned Macbook/"retina" argument). Bit of a personal gripe, and I wish there was a bit more perspective and education here also as many people's viewing habits are.. ergonomically questionable, at times.
That being said, imagine if this had a 3840x1600 resolution (92 PPI) or higher, like 5120x2160 (123 PPI). That would be an absolute dream.
Agreed. I'm using the LG version of this panel and I fixed the low PPI issue by moving the display further back. Sitting around 40" (1 meter) from the center of the monitor, the screen takes up the same proportion of your vision as if you were sitting 30" (75cm) away from a 34-inch monitor like the Alienware/Samsung models. At this distance, the effective PPI to your retina is the same. In practice, sitting closer than 1m to a panel as large as this is quite unnatural anyhow, as you have to start turning your head side-to-side. So from a natural viewing distance, the PPI is a non-issue
The subpixel layout is the more annoying issue, but it isn't as bad once you get used to it, as long as you are not using it for office work/productivity
As always u deliver the best monitor reviews!
Great review as always!
for person who like atmosphere while gaming and play only in dark, this is dream monitor, ive got it and i love it, bought DP 2.0 cable, and throught CRU set up higher pixel clock at 1408 Mhz at stable refresh rate of 244hz and its great in terms of response time- there is still motion blur but its due to refresh rate-but not like ghosting. And when playing in dark its useless to have brightness, cause its too hard for eyes then
When I heard 45” OMG YES!!! Finally! But it follows with 3440x1440… God no we stuck at this resolution far too long. 5120x2160 needs to be mass already.
3840x1600 would do - 5120x2160 is just undrivable unless you have a 4090; even though you'd be lucky to do >144 consistently
@@jlgroovetek Maybe I am on the wrong channel. I will come clean and say that I am not a gamer. I don't play games on my computer. The only game I play is Pokemon Go. The reason I would like 5120x2160p with a high refresh rate of at least 100Hz. Because once you go above 60Hz. I can't see my screen with no lag anymore. And I love 21:9 despite there being no proper support from Apple regarding the HiDPI. And the monitor with color accuracy above 90% with 10 Bit panel is great. My work is just typical stuff, but I need color accuracy for media consumption and peace of mind. Also, the pixel density and the size of the screen play huge roles for my experience while using the monitor.
This monitor is absolutely sick 😮
I am really really happy with my odyssey g8 oled. It looks breathtaking at sometimes
See, I respect the conclusion of "this is really convenient for those with multiple needs and no specific preference, if you have one, the monitor will be capable of providing it", but also I can't believe that this will be the slice of the monitor market that ends up as the majority. Disregarding costs and features and whatnot, I would think that both curved and flat panels would benefit from focused development in the future.
When monitors can afford to be coated in glass as the glossy option, or when someone makes a glass-esque material without glare that curved monitors can benefit from, or for the features I disregarded (like turning and rotating; flexible monitors would have to consider the maximum dimensions for turning, right? So, the minimum height adjustment on a rotatable flexible panel may leave a lot of space below it when curved, because it's considering the flattest configuration, that sort of thing).
Not to mention, flexible panel technology will always have the unusual issue of durability. My monitors may have their hinge or height adjustment springs eroded, but the screens will be as well kept as I can avoid touching them. If I'm repeatedly creasing my monitor, that means a third thing to go wrong in a few years or so.
As interesting as this technology is, I would just hope for a monitor market like the keyboard market: every variation you can think of, and multiple ways to customise. Like, we have plenty of room to grow in that manner; imagine being able to select a monitor stand that has only swivel, or swivel and tilt, or both and rotation. Imagine being able to select the full bezel frame, or no bezel frame, etc. *That* would be a development, and that *should* be the development that all computer parts lean towards. Costs and manufacturing issues aside, anyway; I'm sure keyboards get away with it for being rather simple and consistent, to a degree.
Is this cut from the same panel as 55" 4K OLEDs by LG Display? The PPIs are almost identical. If so, they should be able to go brighter than smaller monitors, like the 55" and up OLED TVs can.
Most likely yes. The ultrawide OLEDs exist as a way to make use of leftovers from the mother glass when they are cutting the other screens. But yeah, the low brightness on the Corsair is weird, might be a result of this being Corsair's first OLED and they haven't figured out how to get the most out of the panel on the software side yet.
Heey Tim I was wondering if it would be possible to also review the new INNOCN 27M2V and the 32M2V? Those monitor specs are looking very interesting
Hi Tim, could you please mention BFI in your reviews. I've noticed you've been leaving it out lately. Manufacturers seem to be ignoring it the last while, LG in particular haven't included it since the CX and C1 series. This is worrying for the niche group of us out there who really care about this feature, especially since OLED's are suited to doing it well. All the best.
Agreed. I'm staying on my cx55 as as long as it take to new oled 42" or smaller to appear with bfi 120+hz
What is BFI exactly?
The flexible curve is technically not a benefit for the consumer, if we assume the consumer knows what curve he exactly wants. It's the benefit of the manufacturer in that all of a sudden the same monitor can handle all consumers that want that type of monitor, but at varying curves. Most consumers will set the curve once and forget about it, some will shift between flat and curved but will be in the minority.
Will wait until "version 2 now with VESA Support!" before I take this monitor seriously as a purchase decision. However, I do believe it is a step in the right direction in the sense that the customer can choose between curve or not depending on what is being displayed. I also agree that the PPI needs to be around 110 for me to consider it seriously (mine currently is 108).
it will be challenging to fit a fixed vest mount to a product that bends, they could only fit the mount to the stand as all the electronics of the device are actually in the stand itself as circuit board dont bend
The second generation of this would probably be awesome, but it might not get one…
Corsair wants Tim to workout :>
OLED lover :) No Mini LED recommendation (again) despite the RGB LCD layout for productivity and higher brightness for HDR bright scenes.
That crooked USB-C port on the back drives me nuts
What a bummer. Well, let's wait for the next OLED monitor. Keep em coming!
3:52 I'm not going to be able to see the whole thing because I'm blind in my left eye. The only exception is when it comes to watching movies and I don't mind having it flat. The only reason why I might buy this Flex monitor is for seeing a small minimap with a very small, hard-to-see compass like in Final Fantasy XV. I would still play games and do productivity work mostly using a 16x9 resolution or better yet, 4x3. Of course, the 4x3 aspect ratio might seem tiny for most people but for me, if the height of the screen really matters and not the width when reading documents, a 4x3 ratio would work just fine for me as long as the monitor does not stretch to fill the entire screen.
Oh, and unless I am wrong, I won't be able to VESA-mount the monitor. Maybe one day the technology will improve to the point where the monitor can flex while having it VESA-mounted. I actually have a 15.6" UPERFECT 4K OLED monitor VESA-mounted to my monitor arm with a VESA-to-tablet converter and it worked out well for me. My 15.6" monitor is very close to me and the field of view is perfect even when magnified using GNOME Magnifier for Linux, Windows Magnifier for Windows, and Zoom for Mac.
There’s no risk of image burn in tho, it has a preventative feature…
Please test the text clarity without clear type. Browsers are really good at grayscale rendering. It should improve the situation.
I been living with this monitor for about a week now. One of my biggest concerns was the DPI since it was so low. But since it’s so large, you need to sit back farther to really take it in. And once you start playing a game, it’s not noticeable (at least to me). Games look amazing and the lower DPI allow me to hit those higher frame rates with my 3080. So I’ll take the trade off. I had the AW34 OLED before this one. While it was a great monitor, I couldn’t stand the fan noise, it was too much, even when I wasn’t using it, it still hummed so I returned it. If any of you guys are worried about the DPI, believe me, you won’t notice it. Or my eye site has gotten worse hitting the big 3 O. Great reviews as always. Keep it up guys!
dont suppose you have any photos you could ping to me of the camera about 60-70 cm away ? :)
Hey. I do have the same Alienware OLED and looking at the Corsair. Are you still using it? Is your opinion still the same? Would you still recommend it? And you are absolutely right, that fan in Alienware can go really crazy.
@@79maykee I actually ended up returning it due to HDR not working on it. I messaged Corsair about and they stated that they knew about the issue but won’t be able to fix it anytime soon. For the premium price, everything should work. I ended up getting a LG C3 42’ television as my mine monitor. I definitely miss the ultra wide but the colors of the TV are the best I’ve seen next to the Alienware QD-OLED. I’ll have to say that was my favorite ultra wide monitor I’ve had. I would have kept it, if it wasn’t for the damn fan.
@@cmdnoob thanks for taking time to respond. I was actually thinking about getting C3 vs Corsair and yesterday I pulled the trigger on the ultrawide. The aspect ratio was one of my main deciding factors. HDR does not work correctly with windows 11 and Alienware as well so I would be able to live with that. My main concern is still the PPI. I guess I will have to wait and see. Literally
@@79maykee for sure dude, happy I can help. Funny thing was that HDR worked great on the AW ultra wide. Halo infinite was jaw dropping. Did not get the same effect with the Corsair since HDR didn’t work on it. I hope it works out better for you than it did for me. It’s a great monitor but everything should work for that price range. Best of luck on finding the perfect monitor!
I could live withut the VESA mount, but no height adjustment seems like a REAL oversight that I can't deal with. I am tall and ALWAYS need to move my monitors to the highest setting possible most of the time.
All i want is ultrawide 4K oled with at least 144hz and ppi thats not trash + vesa support
Even a large 16:9 43 inch monitor with that adjustability would be great.
Tim, Shouldn't it theoretically be possible to install a coding for the subpixel layout in the OS, just as you can install a color profile for your monitor ? OLED's have been around for quite a while now. Should think some bright minds had come up with a solution to the text problem by now or at least be working on the issue. I would take just a posibillity to select different modes dependent if you are using dektop mode or film/HDR/Gaming mode. It's quite annoying when pretty much everything else than text clarity is in OLED's favor compared to normal LCD panels.
Very good review ..
The low ppi kept me from buying this and I'm glad I bought the Alienware in addition to my 34gp83ab instead. Desk stand just arrived and I stacked the former on top of the latter. Holy fuck it's so amazing lol
y'all should get some of those new innocn monitors
When can we expect a review of the Samsung Odyssey 43" G70NC ?
Please do a review of Iiyama Red eagle brand, im wondering whats their quality or how good are advertised features, compared to others.
Thank you for pointing out the HDMI 2.1 ports not being 48 Gbps; it's a pity it doesn't have Displayport 2.0. I'm guessing that both are due to an internal processing chip. I note that the base seems to be a separate part: can you remove it to stack two of these monitors?
no, he go's over that in the beginning ,no wall mount , no adjustments ,watch the review before asking questions
@@mainsource8030 Actually I did watch it. He did not cover that specific aspect. I suspect you may be misinterpreting what I mean by base. I mean purely the angled bit at the bottom, not the cuboid stand.
@@QuentinStephens oh gotcha, sorry
It doesn't need this much bandwidth so I see it as no issue
@@GewelReal That DSC is needed indicates that the bandwidth is needed.
Brightness is too low. Qd-oled is x1.5 brighter. gen 2 qd-oled already having x2 - 300 nits of brightness and hdr true black 500
240 hz and 2 ms input lag are great!
you can bend this screen? Not needed - go for a glossy display and 250 nit brightness at least with 100% white window.
Price is 2 big. 700-800$ would be fine imo.
Great video mr Tim, but the monitor is ... meh. Great to see some innovation - but on wrong directions
Looks great the Lg45" is the same monitor but at a fixed 800R curve . also has an adjustable base and a versa mount and cheaper but that 800R may be too much ? the pixel density is my problem I dont do that much text but photo editing
shame there isnt a 38"-40 " 1000R curved 4K at 166hz that great for gaming and HDR lol
I love this!
Didn‘t you notice VRR flicker? Since i have the monitor my eyes are extremely tired and having headache. Then, after a month i notice this flicker, not only at the menu.
It's cool but the size isn't for me. Not enough pixel density.
Not worth the price tbh. I returned mine within a week, the PPI was way too low especially for being that close its very noticeable. The OLED panel can barely save this monitor. I did enjoy being able to adjust the curve of the screen and the stand is easily one of the best out there but the monitor just doesn't scream $2,000 USD for me. Returned it and bought a LG C2 instead
Chapter 17 of final fantasy 7 is a blooming stress test. I’d be curious as to how mini led panels manage it
Maybe nice if you want more than 27" screen height (the lg is 27" 16x9, the qd oleds are ultrawide but still the same height as 27" 16x9)
I'm know I'm going to get slammed for my opinion, but here it is anyway, because free country damnit.
I have a 32 monitor, and I personally found that I don't think I'd like a larger display. I have the monitor at the extreme rear of my desk, and don't think I'd be comfortable with a 45 inch display. It's just too big for how close it will be on a desk.
This is just my opinion, and having choices of products is what makes tech innovation great.
I'd like to eventually upgrade to an OLED panel some day, but I don't think I'll be in the market for a larger display.
I do think the bending panel technology is very interesting, especially as I'm currently on the fence regarding curved monitors, since I've never seen one in person.
Great video.
i hope this is a product that gets iterated & copied by other brands, maybe even get a VESA mount compatible copycat down the line, or a later version that uses a knob for the curve adjustment
I would love to see a 165Hz version that's closer to the $1000 price range.
Even 120hz would be nice. At least for me.
@Kotz Totz stable 120hz is awesome, especially coming from a sub 80Hz experience, but for that market there are already great options below $300 so a flexible display wouldn't be profitable.
So far all LG OLED monitors have had 240hz refresh rates; I think it's just a given that they refresh this fast and that there wouldn't be much cost-cutting allowed if they were to limit refresh rates to 120/165hz.
refreshrate here is not the major cost
@Gewel ✔ A shame if that's the case because past 165Hz it's diminishing returns for me.
The anti burn in features may have been worth a mention! unless i missed it.
cant understand that critics on DPI, i play only on 2560x1080 to reach 244hz/fps and i dont need to make it higher. Played Far Cry4, Someday youll return and Doom2016 and no need to play at default resolution
I'd love one of these, in New Zealand it's the same price as a rtx4090 lol.
Maybe low pixel density (78PPI) is corelated to flex ability. Maybe this can't be more pixel density becouse of this curve and flat position user can chose.
Speaking of corsair, have you been able to or planing to test there new 27 OLED, along with there 32 inch 4k and new 32 inch 1440 240hz. ?
The most impressive thing about this display is it's price :D
Screams “this going to break”.
Would it be possible to review the newly released AOC Agon Pro AG274QZM. I am looking to obtain this monitor as been waiting for something solid with mini-led technology 2k 240hz HDR 1000 with ok price.
Oof i was very excited until he mentioned its not height adjustable or Vesa mountable. Thats a deal breaker for me
With the amount of RWBG pixel layout monitors out there don't we expect windows to start accounting for them for their text clarity calibration tool?
Actually I don't know if that can be different when you have for example 2 different monitors
It's great that you compare brightness between all other OLED monitors. People are very divided on whether it's enough or not, making it very controversial and difficult to make a decision. In my opinion even the brightest QD-OLED from samsung is just barely passable.
Can you make a video of the LG UG 45 250hz please 🙏
Is this much better than the LG 45 Ultragear? I can get that one for $1299 at Best Buy now whereas the Corsair is $1999.
I had the pg27aqn, aw3423dw, lg 45gr95qe and i have to say the xeneon flex brightness is plenty. Its around 50% of the pg27aqn which was waaaay too bright for me. The LG 45 oled was surprisingly less bright for whatever reason than the xeneon flex
Xeneon Flex vs LG 45gr95qe? Which one would you go? I have hard time deciding. Leaning towards lg because its way cheaper but im not sure about the r800 curve. I have Samsung G7 32 inch at the moment and i love it and the R1000 curve but... 45 inch at R800 sounds like maybe too much.
@@jaybee0507 800r is actually excellent because of the size. The Xeneon flex does get brighter too. I returned the LG because it wasnt bright enough and only came with one year warranty. The xeneon has 3. Worth the extra
1440p 45inch, I would die
LG has motorized curved monitor so this is kinda ancient tech :P
Went from S tier to F tier with that PPI and pixel layout
Agreed way to low for that price shame Corsair makes some great stuff just not this.
Pixel layout is normal for OLED and that PPI is honestly not bad. Similar PPI to a 27'' 1920x1080p screen or a 55'' 3840x2160 screen, both of which I'm currently using as my current desktop screens. I think 80-85PPI is the sweet spot between sharpness and text actually being large enough to read at 100% scaling.
@@MistyKathrine OOF. Personally that sounds terrible. I just tested out a 48", 49.5", and a 50" 4k and it was a terrible experience. I could see the gap in between pixels on all of them. Only the 48" was usable.
A 42"-43" 4k is probably the lowest I'll ever go ppi
@@SubzeroBlack68 Are you sitting 6'' away? Like, you shouldn't be able to see "gaps" between pixels at a reasonable 24+ inches away.
Please review the 45 lg oled curved im looking into but the only thing holding me back is the ppi. I want to know if its noticeable while gaming.
Hi, is a review for the 1440p OLED Dough(Spectrum) monitor?
Are you going to review the Innocn monitors?
Interesting I suppose, but meh considering the price and other specs. Still waiting for quality HDR on OLEDs without the burn-in issue.
4:20 what's a monitor stand?
where does the FO48U land in the tier list?
Hey sir, can you review the newly launched Odyssey neo g7 43 inch which seems like an extraordinary one
i really enjoy your videos thank you.. i was wondering which one of this monitors will be your choice since my gaming pc is old (gtx 980,x99 motherboard,i 75820) and i'm using dual monitor setup 24 inch 1080p but im hoping to but new pc soon
+ i dont like most of the new games today so ...
*''MSI Optix G272CQP Curved WQHD 170Hz 27
*''MSI Optix MAG321QR WQHD 165Hz G-Sync RGB 31.5
thx
I wonder why they decided to not use a higher resolution for this monitor. It was clear from day one that it had to be a higher pixel density. Maybe they thought that had they made a 5k monitor just those with a 4090 could have been interested, but being an expensive monitor that's already the kind of customer that would buy it right now. Well, I hope they will continue to make bendable monitors because as you said, it's clearly useful.
I have the new LG version of this monitor and honestly, I don't notice the pixel density (or lack there of). I work and game on the monitor. Now *caveat* I do notice the pixel density issue when working on spreadsheets. However, I got over it in an hour and weeks later do not notice at all. Favorite monitor I've ever had.
Because they're not exist
I agree they always seem to go for 3440 x 1440p I’m kinda sick of it
It's Not 1440p (2560×1440p, it's ultrawide 3440×1440p, you've got to consider total pixel count, when not 16×9, or like my set three 1440p monitors in Surround screen.
5k=14.7 MP (Million Pixels) - 3×1440p=11.1 MP, - 4k=8.3 MP - Ultrawide 3440×1440=5 MP - 1440p=3.7 MP - 1080p=2.1 MP, a 27"@4k Panel exists, so it's not Pixel Density now.
Ray Tracing @ 4k+Ultra+Native is unviable (Maybe 4090), and many more people are waiting on a Flat 1440p OLED, I have a 3080 Ti for Ultra+Ray Tracing @ 1440p Native.
I won't upscale Res (DLAA Only), so I'm not in the market for anything except a flat 1440p, which is not a resolution TV's use, so has no dual usage market, I'm still waiting.
@@uhurunuru6609 when I've said 5k I used the term in a very loose way. What I mean is a 4k resolution in terms of height and for width a number of pixel good for a ultrawide format. A 4k with additional lateral area.
Can you share the name of the test video that is playing while talking about dimming zones and HDR? :)
Are you going to do the LG version of this one or just go off of this due to the panels being the same?
When Win11 is set to SDR and i start Cyberpunk 2077, the HDR options (scRGB, PQ) aren‘t available. So everytime i wanna use HDR in that game i have to press Win+Alt+B.
In Battlefield V the monitor automatically switches to HDR. Though, Win11 is asking to use Auto-HDR. Why is it asking/offer that option when BFV has native HDR?