honda supercup is the light truck of most country in SEA. it can easily carry (with special rack) twice, sometimes 3 times its weight. and because the design is so robust and simple, plus the availability of parts everywhere, it easily last 2, even 3 generation of abuse. really a beast. you can even argue that this bike alone built the economy of SEA
@DR Dan Agreed. Motorcycles have been the workhorse that move families and goods at relatively slow speeds. We wouldn't want to live like that in our First World Nations. We love our trucks, cars, and sport bikes.
It's not just a light truck. In most SEA country (including my country), moped is a light truck, family wagon, grocery getter, all terrain vehicle, or everything you want it to be.
I've never heard a bad word about Superb and old machines still fetch more than similar type bike of the same age because they are so reliable and here in SE Asia getting spare parts is not a problem. I wouldn't mind my next bike being a Supercub, but I would get a model with bigger seat for a pillion passenger. (I'm sure it can be modded and in SE Asia it is likely bigger seat comes as a standard.)
My dad had a Honda 50 in the early 70’s, the oil crisis meant he couldn’t afford to run the family car as a commuter everyday,. His was blue and white. Great little bike. I kind of miss my own little 125, so economical to run and that’s all you need when you first start out learning the ropes and getting your road craft right. A 125 gives you a lot of confidence. Great review 👍
The target buyers of this machine are *not* going to care whether or not it will do a wheelie... Or a burnout, for that matter! The 50cc version of this was *everywhere* when I was a kid, back in the UK 50-some years ago. Or you would occasionally see someone sporty, with the 90cc version!
Oh, Southeast Asians will find ways to do crazy shit with these things. There are whole subcultures revolving around racing underbones like crouch rockets, sometimes illegally. IIRC there were accounts of people using derivatives of Cubs for racing, but these days you'll also find high performance underbones there, and that's not getting into the modding community that could bump up the horsepower even further. Newer Japanese variations alone may even come stock with 150cc engines (like the Honda Winner, Suzuki Raider 150 and Yamaha T-150). It makes this video look outright sedated in comparison.
Man you are so right. In europe and specifically in my country, almost everyone has a cub because they are too easy to ride. I think mr. Honda knew what he was doing. This best selling bike is unbeleivable, the first time I saw it from face to face I was amazed. These bikes are for city use.
I had a 69 cm 90 but all white, It was one of the biggest mistakes Ive made selling it. Now at 65 I am waiting for this new one to come out in white again, I will drive it probably 200 miles then when I am dead, my wife could sell it to some lucky person.
The Super Cub anime is definitely an anime I would recommend as fellow motorcyclist to watch, it does a rather good job at emulating the feelings you feel when you get your first bike or scooter and all the experiences we may have faced.
Great bike and a nice review. Very good background info for the younger folks who don't know the history of Honda. That being said, please don't take this wrong, I'm an old motorcyclists (56 years old) . I have lost lots of friends over the years to fatal accidents. Many of those guys rode like you do. They were young and bullet proof. The folks they left behind wished they had been a little more defensive in their bike driving. Please reconsider posting this kind of driving. If you don't believe it can happen to you, how about the 17 year old kid watching this video?
If I rode my Harley's like this guy rides that little Honda I'd have been dead years ago,this guy had better change his riding style if he ever expects to collect his first social security check.
@@roelandverwilt2752;Maybe the motion picture made things look speeded up but from what I observed him doing he'd better keep his life insurance premiums paid up.
@@dennistaylor3762 Makes me wonder how he drives with heavy machines ... I can assure you that he won't live long in the densely populated areas here in Belgium. And with that kind of driving it's not only his life that's on the line. A sad menthality !
@@roelandverwilt2752 Back before we had mandatory helmet laws people used to exorcise a lot more common sense when riding and then the do gooders got helmet laws passed and the state convinced all the newbee's that now they are safer because the state says so and motor cycle accidents went up because a helmet gives people a false sense of security and invincibility.Strap a $600.00 helmet on someone and they feel bulletproof.
I had one a few years back. It was a 1978 model, I restored it in sky blue with white seats and saddle boxes. I got positive comments all the time. Sadly I sold it, I miss that little bike, it was a hoot.
HEEEEEEEED! Whatup, brother. A modern interpretation of a tried and true classic. They aren't for me, but hey, 100 million riders can't be wrong! Congrats to Honda.
I loveee this bike so much and I still use the honda super cub 70 made in 1986 but still running and i love the sound of the engine always the same when i started 10 years ago until now... 😍 My bike has been with our family from 1996.
As a long time (50 yrs) California mc rider I can say there is nothing more satisfying than splitting long lines of cars who are either backed up at a traffic light, or crawling on the freeway. And no, California car drivers don't resent us whizzing by them in traffic, if anything, they're jealous.
Same, that and his gas mileage quote: “if you ride like a sane person, you could see 60+ mpg” Well no shit! Plenty of grom riders getting 100+ mpg, and this is the same engine! I’m trying to hit 100 mpg with my SV650SF. Of the only two tanks through it so far I have hit 75 mpg. That 75 mpg tank also included inefficient riding and only part of it included my new super tall (17% taller) gearing.
@@b.gabbard6046 Believe it or not, it still hauls ass off the line. Idle speed is now around 7 mph, so not fun in slow traffic. Don't expect much roll on power in 6th below 55 mph, etc. 5th gear is taller than a stock bike's 6th gear. That being said, it is a very comfortable higher speed cruiser, and should be capable of stupid touring range for something of this class. I have made it 220 miles without the fuel light coming on(2 stages, neither came on). I'll have to make a video of it sometime, I also access to a stock geared bike, which should make the comparison even better. My brother, whose stock bike that is, he said this is what the bike was supposed to feel like after riding mine for the first time. Maybe a little less tall geared, but I agree.
Technically, California is the only state where lane-spotting by a motorcycle is legal. There are a handful of states where it’s addressed on a case by case basis, but in the majority of states it is illegal.
Thanks so much for making this. Not only it is entertaining, it's informative. Reminds me of my first bike..a Honda C70...light blue and white. You're right..cooling is a problem. In my country, heat can be a real problem. I rode it till it caught fire😢😭😭😭
I own a '16 ZX14R SE...and I really really want one of these. Truth is, the ZX is overkill for around town or even shorter country rides. The Cub has a place.
scottieray it certainly does. It will do 90+% of what most motorcycle riders do on their machines at less than half the cost and twice the mpg. As long you don’t have an ego problem it will suit you well. I’m not going to be getting rid of my big bikes but I’m definitely putting one of these in my garage.
This is the most informative review I have ever seen. Thank you brother and God bless you. .....Many people could learn a lot from how this review was done. No stupid music. Just excellent information.
I used to skid my old 1983 C70 Honda Passport like that all the time - it was always remarkably stable even when locking both front & rear up which happened to me often in my 12 years of commuting from Queens to Manhattan every day, splitting lanes non-stop and other shenanigans to get my commute done. I you search my profile I have about 3 videos of some of that footage.
I'd never guess I'd enjoy a review of a little scoots but this was super relaxing, bunch of info, I might actually get one for scooting around city. Great job!
I loved the Passport. It was fun to ride, got something like 120 mpg, and did almost 45 mph. Moving up to 125 cc makes the SC legal for the highway though.
Awesome man! I had the 1983 C70 Passport for close to 20 years, never let me down, rode it constantly for 12 years in NYC - check out my profile vids...
Very true, he could have recorded the video and then put his voice on it instead of driving and talking at the same time as well as doing unnecessarily dangerous maneuvers like at 09:10.
@@mtwseneca been riding 14 years, I don’t ride like this but I’m sure not offended by it. He’s on a 125 scooter, he’s not endangering anyone but himself so who cares. I bet you think spanking your kid is child abuse, America has grown so soft.
@@yamkaw346 All my kids got spanked (and I just want one weekend with my 5 year old grand boy to straighten him out some). The issue is the bad example this guy is putting out. I have been on 2 wheels for over 60 years (smile)
The bike colors represent the Four Elements; Water, Air (Sky), Fire, and Earth (where the rubber hits the road)... because the Honda guy loved red and drove a red car doesn't describe why - Red often represents passion, energy, and in Japan, it represents the Sun -- ultimately, as Fire. If you're asking about Air; well, air is the element that surrounds you while you ride the bike. [correction made; I was reminded that Sky is not an element, and that is correct, my bad on my part; I change it to Earth - where the rubber hits the road]. ; )
Sky is not a part of the Four Elements...the FE are Air, Water, Earth and Fire...and there are still 3 colours + none represent earth. In Japan the Elements or Godai, includes the Void.
@@diegopastor8988 You are right; my bad... it is Air, Fire, Water, Earth. I mentioned Fire, Water, Air... I now have to assume the Earth is where the Rubber hits the Road -- the 'road' being Earth.
My very first vehicle was a Honda C50 in he 1970's. Did it's job, got me from a to b cheaply. Even when the piston rings broke up in the engine, it still kept going for a long time.
This douche is a almost a non-rider when it comes to self preservation, and defensive driving. His waster mentality and inability to even utter the words "un-sprung weight" show how far we have come from the days of real technical writers who rode ( see cycle world in the 60's).. Had he done any research he would know the original engine was a push rod 50cc with a 3 speed, which became well revered OHC 90 cc ( see Super 90 and CT 90).. which is the engine sold in the 100's of millions, and with trailing link forks. Oh well. Do NOT ride like this fool, if you want to live. I've lived over 60 years on two wheels..and I can say that.
In around 1975 I had the 90 cc version of this bike. I learned to ride with the RAC and took my test on it. It was a good idea then, it still is today.
In Malaysia, this super cub bike is more expensive than the top model Honda or Yamaha underbone mopeds, some people disagree with how Honda priced this bike at approximately USD$3700 while modern Honda underbone which is 25cc more than the super cub is priced at USD2200~. How can Honda justify the price point for this bike, or is this bike for those nostalgic "vintage" collectors?
There is a definite element of BS nostalgia appeal! If you want to keep the spirit true, lose the useless electronic keyless ignition, put a proper two person saddle, and a price point below $2000. As it is, nice idea, but more gimmick than workhorse.
Alex Gian $2000 is unrealistic we won’t be getting Asian prices if people make 3x in the high income countries like Taiwan. Yeah but a price like $3000 would be reasonable.
Even in Indonesia. We used to get the c70 and c80 version. After that, honda released astrea in early 90's, but i don't know what it's called worldwide.
I had a locally made step thru when I lived in Laos. Best urban/city transport I've ever owned. I bought a new Super Cub C125 a few weeks back. I can't stop grinning.
When you are done with this bike I am sure Egan would appreciate getting his hands on it. He would probably ride it cross country and write a great piece of motopoetry!
@@davidmcmanus5627 You'd be wrong about that. Lots of employees were making $1,000 per month back then. They could afford to buy it with two weeks of their salary. Not so nowadays.
I had it’s “grandpa” back in the mid-1960’s. It was the 50cc drop-frame Cub which looked much like that. Electric start, no clutch, lots of fun, but nearly got me killed. I swore off two wheel transportation ever since.
Very interesting. I wasn't sure if the Super Cub could handle North American roads with our big fast vehicles, but it looks like it has no problem whatsoever.
I had a Honda C50 back in the early 1960's here in the UK before the government governed the engines to 30 mph top speed on them. My bike would do 55 mph quite easily and mileage was over 100 mpg if riding at around 40 mph. Very easy to maintain and a great fun bike to ride and very economical, all in all a great bike for around town.
Around town ? Maybe today, but back in the 70's, I toured Britain with mine, then France and Spain up to Gibraltar, starting from Belgium. The only thing that prevented me to ride flat-out for more than two hours was the small tank.
I thought I was going to be the only one that thought this! Holy crap! I can understand lane splitting at stop lights, but not weaving within inches at speed lol
I love this little Honda, it looks fun an modern. It's hard to beat my SYM 300. Big tires, Power, and I can carry two gallons of water and other groceries under the seat, it's crazy with room!
I think i'll buy one of these and ride it across Europe. I'm not a big fun for speed.. even that i have a Suzuki V-strom 1000.. But this...this is a pure joy to ride.. i just rode one of those and man.. i was smiling all the time i was riding it..
I have a Grom and an FZ6 (100hp 600cc). I might buy one of these just for fun next to my Grom. If you don't get mini bikes, you probably haven't owned one. They are ridiculously fun. And the mini bike group rides beat all other group rides of street legal bikes.
I don’t need one and I probably wouldn’t ride it very much, but I’m oddly tempted to buy one. They are so iconic. I lived in Japan for 10 years after college and some variety of these bikes were everywhere. The ultimate utilitarian transporter. We’ll see …
That's how much name brand 50cc bikes/mopeds typically cost new. The price is on par with every other 125cc name brand bike. "But I found this china brander for 600$!" not the same. "But I found a 125 for that used!"- yeah, USED. It's not a moped. It is a full motorcycle. Find me a brand new, street legal, non-moped, name brand, motorcycle, for 2500$ MSRP.
The 4th gear was lacking on the honda 90. Giving a second gear that was a problem. Not high enough to use on a highway hill until the speed dropped a long way. That was far more of an issue than the top gear cruising revs.
I bought one just after they came to America in the early sixties. Those were the Honda-50 which is what most of those sales were. The Super Cub is their newest model. In the interim that style of scooter was build in Taiwan who bought the rights to produce them I believe. Honda realized they fuqued up not continuing to make them and decided to start making them again, is all I can come up with.
On the U.S. version back in the day, turn signals were not required on motorcycles or scooters. The single two person seat was produced with "rentals" in mind. Two inexperienced people got the hang of riding a lot faster on a single seat. I lived in The Bahamas in the sixty's and most hotels had a small fleet to rent. My family had a fleet of thirty of the old C-100's that we rented to collage students on spring break. Surprisingly nearly all did very well for the first time riding a motorcycle with a couple of minutes of instruction. Some had problems mind you, but mostly with remembering to drive on the left side of the road, and too much liquor.
syncro87 Only if you’re not used to lane splitting and filtering. As long as you do it safely it shouldn’t be a problem, but too many car drivers are selfish and get angry because they think you’re cutting the line.
@@YF19pilot You call the car drivers selfish but what does it say about MC riders when they feel they have the right to pull in front of those cars. Ever think that car might have wanted to turn right after stopping on a red.? I have been ridding for 60 years and see no need to be an ass.
@@melvinboyce9629 Perhaps self centered is the better term, but I don't see how filtering is being an ass. It's safer for me as a rider to move to the front if there's room for it. Being an ass is what car drivers do when they move to purposely block motorcycles from filtering. Now, I know there are jackasses on motorcycles who don't know how to filter or lane split correctly, but the act of lane splitting and filtering is not some dumb notion of me as a rider thinking I "deserve" to be in front of someone. Rather, I'm using my motorcycle's smaller size to maneuver through traffic and avoid accidents like being rear ended by someone distracted by their phone. If you personally don't want to filter or lane split, that's cool, but don't knock us who do.
Most guys, of a certain age, who are running around on Geezer Glides today learned how to ride on the Honda 50cc Cub of yesterday. I got one for Christmas when I was 10. Been riding ever since. The "Honda Monkey" formerly known as the Z50 Series was first introduced to the United States in 1968, a few years earlier elsewhere. You don't "need" something bigger, faster, more expensive...you "want" something bigger, faster, more expensive. Big difference.
WOW. Great video! My first visit to your channel. So much background info on this bike, and your not talking like a clown. AND you drive like I wish I could! Liked and subscribed. Be well.
Forget this 125 stuff. They couldn't have made it at least a 250 for the US? Honda's 250 single is so great, and freeway worthy. Maybe a nice Tobacco brown color scheme... Havanna style.
jmr5707 that’s why they ditched the 250 after 2 years in the US market for a 300 right? No 250 is freeway worthy. They’re okay to jump on for a couple of exits or during rush hour but that’s it
@@jessaphillips2846 - 250 & 300 are practically the same... don't know why they changed it, myself. In California, anything about 200 or above is freeway legal. Not everything is a size race, either (Duhhhh, why not make it a 600? Duhhhhh...). Bikes like this are supposed to be small. It's about the ride, not how fast you get there. Why did Honda sell so many Grom's, stupid? Worthiness is a matter of perspective. I only meant one COULD take the freeway, rather than spend all day on fucking surface streets. Don't take everything so literally. Sigh... yawn 😏
Back in the early Sixties you could rent 50 and 90cc versions of these where I grew up. I'm thinking for about 2 or 3 dollars an hour. This brings back a lot of memories but I never rode one. Great video Adam! I don't want one.
When you take turns you give me a heart attack everytime lol. You come in wicked hot and get so close to the outside edge. But great review very in depth on what to expect from this machine.
HONDA! What a great company. I've been riding since 1965 and they have always been an innovator. They know the value of 'race on Sunday-sell on Monday'. I've had a few motorcycles and the most dependable were Honda's. I'll always trumpet their dependability. My 1967 Honda cb160 was so much fun. I really miss that (stolen) bike. I've had numerous bikes since then, yet that bike was so special. I don't know why, but I don't care either.
Good review. Even though driving between cars at lights is legal in most states I find it obnoxious. In my area drivers and cops alike would not react well and to you’d have a hard day in court avoiding a dangerous driving citation and occasionally somebody’s going to get out of their truck and confront you and that doesn’t always end up so well. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Anyway I found your overall review of this bike and history to be excellent. Will add it to my list of scooters and small cycles to consider.
Bruh, Honda once organized a fuel efficiency contest for these bikes here in Indonesia, with two main classes: the C100 class and NF125 aka Wave 125 class (no, not this engine, a different, long-stroke design). The rules are simple: commute to the designated point from the starting line. no time limit, just ride.The record? 1 liter for 152 kilometers for the 100 cc, and 1 liter for 145 kilometers (that's 357 and 334 miles per gallon respectively). Though to be fair, most of the riders don't accelerate above 40-60 kilometers per hour (around 24-40 mph, which is what commuters here usually ride the speed at) commute, but it's still an achievement.
Aussie here,, whoever designed the tall light for the American model needs his/her engineering licence revoked. Hideous. Also, the Australian model has the front indicators integrated into the handlebars, not on stalks. Looks heaps tidier. Btw,, I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Still grinning. A great urban bike for running errands or ducking down to my local cafe.
Do you guys also have the new Honda Monkey? I am glad that Honda is bringing the tried and true Grom engine for older people; I am short, but at 49, would not want a Grom (maybe the MX5 there?). However, this or the Monkey on the other hand...
Wow...this video has influenced me to love this bike. I want one now! I love that there's no clutch! I hate clutch shifting. The semi-auto shifting is incredible! All bikes should have that!
honda supercup is the light truck of most country in SEA. it can easily carry (with special rack) twice, sometimes 3 times its weight. and because the design is so robust and simple, plus the availability of parts everywhere, it easily last 2, even 3 generation of abuse. really a beast. you can even argue that this bike alone built the economy of SEA
I saw a family of 5 in the Philippines riding along just fine in traffic. A great people mover. Beats walking.
@DR Dan Agreed. Motorcycles have been the workhorse that move families and goods at relatively slow speeds. We wouldn't want to live like that in our First World Nations. We love our trucks, cars, and sport bikes.
The CT70 was officially rated at a capacity of "450lbs plus rider", according to their ads.
It's not just a light truck. In most SEA country (including my country), moped is a light truck, family wagon, grocery getter, all terrain vehicle, or everything you want it to be.
I've never heard a bad word about Superb and old machines still fetch more than similar type bike of the same age because they are so reliable and here in SE Asia getting spare parts is not a problem. I wouldn't mind my next bike being a Supercub, but I would get a model with bigger seat for a pillion passenger. (I'm sure it can be modded and in SE Asia it is likely bigger seat comes as a standard.)
That’s the family sedan in Bali with seating for 5!
Yes indeed
Including the angel, as their safety guard.
Just cause you can afford a car doesn’t mean everyone can
Funny! 😂😂😂😂😂
And pickup truck transporting cargo up to 100kg as well... :-D
Best selling vehicle of all time yet people find a way to charge it as vintage and rare :D
It's great, here in Australia you can get a used 110 model for under 1000USD and it comes with a huge ass rear-rack cause the posties use em
@@H31MU7 that big rack was standard everywhere after 66 I think
A milk crate and bungie cords has got to be the most useful motorcycle luggage arrangement of all time.
Humans are opportunistic
It has fuel injection and all kinds of modern stuff on it. They are selling it as nostalgic, not vintage and rare. Think 2004 Mustang.
My dad had a Honda 50 in the early 70’s, the oil crisis meant he couldn’t afford to run the family car as a commuter everyday,. His was blue and white. Great little bike. I kind of miss my own little 125, so economical to run and that’s all you need when you first start out learning the ropes and getting your road craft right. A 125 gives you a lot of confidence. Great review 👍
richard collins the oil crisis started in 1973 i call BS. i had a new 1973 351 ford torino and i had no problem paying for gas////////////////
The target buyers of this machine are *not* going to care whether or not it will do a wheelie... Or a burnout, for that matter! The 50cc version of this was *everywhere* when I was a kid, back in the UK 50-some years ago. Or you would occasionally see someone sporty, with the 90cc version!
The majority of people watching this do though
Japanese postal service got the 90
Who gives a crap if it wheelies or burns out, really stupid shit. Great vid though.
Oh, Southeast Asians will find ways to do crazy shit with these things. There are whole subcultures revolving around racing underbones like crouch rockets, sometimes illegally. IIRC there were accounts of people using derivatives of Cubs for racing, but these days you'll also find high performance underbones there, and that's not getting into the modding community that could bump up the horsepower even further. Newer Japanese variations alone may even come stock with 150cc engines (like the Honda Winner, Suzuki Raider 150 and Yamaha T-150). It makes this video look outright sedated in comparison.
@Max Pain My C50 would do 32mph. Certainly felt faster than a bicycle.
Man you are so right. In europe and specifically in my country, almost everyone has a cub because they are too easy to ride. I think mr. Honda knew what he was doing. This best selling bike is unbeleivable, the first time I saw it from face to face I was amazed. These bikes are for city use.
I still have my 1969 Honda CM90 in the garage... Its black and white and still runs great!
I had a 69 cm 90 but all white, It was one of the biggest mistakes Ive made selling it. Now at 65 I am waiting for this new one to come out in white again, I will drive it probably 200 miles then when I am dead, my wife could sell it to some lucky person.
@@columbmurray I a
@@columbmurray We all will, unless you are Peter Pan you will as well, Sorry for being the bearer of unwelcome news but shit happens.
@@Tony-hx2fj damn tony...did you just kick?
This video got recommended on me after watching the super cub anime😂
Sameee
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I’ve always loved the cub and was so pumped when the anime came out lol
The Super Cub anime is definitely an anime I would recommend as fellow motorcyclist to watch, it does a rather good job at emulating the feelings you feel when you get your first bike or scooter and all the experiences we may have faced.
@@namelesstengureporter2796 I agree. That is a nice and soothing anime 😊.
Great bike and a nice review. Very good background info for the younger folks who don't know the history of Honda.
That being said, please don't take this wrong, I'm an old motorcyclists (56 years old) . I have lost lots of friends over the years to fatal accidents. Many of those guys rode like you do. They were young and bullet proof. The folks they left behind wished they had been a little more defensive in their bike driving. Please reconsider posting this kind of driving. If you don't believe it can happen to you, how about the 17 year old kid watching this video?
If I rode my Harley's like this guy rides that little Honda I'd have been dead years ago,this guy had better change his riding style if he ever expects to collect his first social security check.
And that brutal shifting is really necessary with a new machine to get somewhere ??
@@roelandverwilt2752;Maybe the motion picture made things look speeded up but from what I observed him doing he'd better keep his life insurance premiums paid up.
@@dennistaylor3762 Makes me wonder how he drives with heavy machines ... I can assure you that he won't live long in the densely populated areas here in Belgium. And with that kind of driving it's not only his life that's on the line.
A sad menthality !
@@roelandverwilt2752 Back before we had mandatory helmet laws people used to exorcise a lot more common sense when riding and then the do gooders got helmet laws passed and the state convinced all the newbee's that now they are safer because the state says so and motor cycle accidents went up because a helmet gives people a false sense of security and invincibility.Strap a $600.00 helmet on someone and they feel bulletproof.
I had one a few years back. It was a 1978 model, I restored it in sky blue with white seats and saddle boxes. I got positive comments all the time. Sadly I sold it, I miss that little bike, it was a hoot.
That's the best one word description I've ever heard
HEEEEEEEED! Whatup, brother. A modern interpretation of a tried and true classic. They aren't for me, but hey, 100 million riders can't be wrong! Congrats to Honda.
I loveee this bike so much and I still use the honda super cub 70 made in 1986 but still running and i love the sound of the engine always the same when i started 10 years ago until now... 😍
My bike has been with our family from 1996.
This is one of the best MC Commutes that I've watched, regardless of who was the reviewer. Two thumbs up!
Dude, push to go forward. leaving your turn signal on for that long will get you hurt.
Genius idea from Honda to bring back their legends. Great information ℹ️ thank you.
As a long time (50 yrs) California mc rider I can say there is nothing more satisfying than splitting long lines of cars who are either backed up at a traffic light, or crawling on the freeway. And no, California car drivers don't resent us whizzing by them in traffic, if anything, they're jealous.
Wow, you are really out of touch.
I dont like the way he accelerates all the way to the stop sign then slams his breaks on. I have an efficiency ocd and that triggers me
Same, that and his gas mileage quote: “if you ride like a sane person, you could see 60+ mpg” Well no shit! Plenty of grom riders getting 100+ mpg, and this is the same engine!
I’m trying to hit 100 mpg with my SV650SF. Of the only two tanks through it so far I have hit 75 mpg. That 75 mpg tank also included inefficient riding and only part of it included my new super tall (17% taller) gearing.
>>> included my new super tall (17% taller) gearing.>>>
Do tell!
Did you go up a tooth on the sprocket?
@@b.gabbard6046 I went up two teeth for the front sprocket, and three teeth down in the rear. 70 mph is now 4200 RPM instead of 5100.
Awesome! Do you have to push it to get going, or does it still have some torque? lol!
@@b.gabbard6046 Believe it or not, it still hauls ass off the line. Idle speed is now around 7 mph, so not fun in slow traffic. Don't expect much roll on power in 6th below 55 mph, etc. 5th gear is taller than a stock bike's 6th gear.
That being said, it is a very comfortable higher speed cruiser, and should be capable of stupid touring range for something of this class. I have made it 220 miles without the fuel light coming on(2 stages, neither came on).
I'll have to make a video of it sometime, I also access to a stock geared bike, which should make the comparison even better. My brother, whose stock bike that is, he said this is what the bike was supposed to feel like after riding mine for the first time. Maybe a little less tall geared, but I agree.
Honda is always the best of all times, i really love Honda cub
Informative video on this slick little motorcycle, but dude, your driving habits leave a lot to be desired.
Technically, California is the only state where lane-spotting by a motorcycle is legal. There are a handful of states where it’s addressed on a case by case basis, but in the majority of states it is illegal.
@@dougzirkle5951 Yeah, maybe not illegal elsewhere, but definitely frowned upon. This is why distracted drivers so easily hit cyclists :/
@@generalzod7959 bollocks. Keep to 20 mph or less it's no problem. That's what these things are for! You don't queue on a bike.
@@generalzod7959 get fucked
Excellent review sir, not just on the bike but the history of it too. You really did your homework, awesome job.
Thanks so much for making this. Not only it is entertaining, it's informative. Reminds me of my first bike..a Honda C70...light blue and white. You're right..cooling is a problem. In my country, heat can be a real problem. I rode it till it caught fire😢😭😭😭
Lovely sweet quiet 4 stroke engine... Easy on the ear and more reliable.
Mr Honda was a genius with amazing foresight.
I own a '16 ZX14R SE...and I really really want one of these. Truth is, the ZX is overkill for around town or even shorter country rides. The Cub has a place.
scottieray it certainly does. It will do 90+% of what most motorcycle riders do on their machines at less than half the cost and twice the mpg. As long you don’t have an ego problem it will suit you well. I’m not going to be getting rid of my big bikes but I’m definitely putting one of these in my garage.
I am addicted to these commute reviews. Well done!! Thank you!
You drive like my wife. She scares the hell out of me.
Ha ha
This is the most informative review I have ever seen. Thank you brother and God bless you. .....Many people could learn a lot from how this review was done. No stupid music. Just excellent information.
Thanks for the safety inputs during riding mixed with right amount of hooliganism fun! Thumbs up and favourite!!!
Thorough and cool history lesson! Thanks Adam
Yams go work on a video
@@floydian25 that's the UA-camr equivalent of go make me a sandwich
21:57 almost killed !
I used to skid my old 1983 C70 Honda Passport like that all the time - it was always remarkably stable even when locking both front & rear up which happened to me often in my 12 years of commuting from Queens to Manhattan every day, splitting lanes non-stop and other shenanigans to get my commute done. I you search my profile I have about 3 videos of some of that footage.
I'd never guess I'd enjoy a review of a little scoots but this was super relaxing, bunch of info, I might actually get one for scooting around city. Great job!
Nice to see Honda offering the Super Cub in the USA again. Even with an additional 55cc and another gear I'll stick to my old 1981 C70 Passport.
I loved the Passport. It was fun to ride, got something like 120 mpg, and did almost 45 mph. Moving up to 125 cc makes the SC legal for the highway though.
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Awesome man! I had the 1983 C70 Passport for close to 20 years, never let me down, rode it constantly for 12 years in NYC - check out my profile vids...
Can't believe that this guy drives motorcycles for a living, he's a terrible example for defensive and safe driving.
Very true, he could have recorded the video and then put his voice on it instead of driving and talking at the same time as well as doing unnecessarily dangerous maneuvers like at 09:10.
@@rodm.g.2809 jeez y’all are wussies..
@@yamkaw346 Let me guess Logan, you are under 25?
Go down the comments and see what long time bike riders think.
@@mtwseneca been riding 14 years, I don’t ride like this but I’m sure not offended by it. He’s on a 125 scooter, he’s not endangering anyone but himself so who cares. I bet you think spanking your kid is child abuse, America has grown so soft.
@@yamkaw346 All my kids got spanked (and I just want one weekend with my 5 year old grand boy to straighten him out some).
The issue is the bad example this guy is putting out. I have been on 2 wheels for over 60 years (smile)
it would be great for VAN LIFE ,for trips to market ,running around at beach
The grom has a bigger load than the cub 109/105kg for the cub and the grom 105/154kg.
I was thinking the same upon first view of this video
“Safety is paramount”. lol
The bike colors represent the Four Elements; Water, Air (Sky), Fire, and Earth (where the rubber hits the road)... because the Honda guy loved red and drove a red car doesn't describe why - Red often represents passion, energy, and in Japan, it represents the Sun -- ultimately, as Fire. If you're asking about Air; well, air is the element that surrounds you while you ride the bike. [correction made; I was reminded that Sky is not an element, and that is correct, my bad on my part; I change it to Earth - where the rubber hits the road]. ; )
Sky is not a part of the Four Elements...the FE are Air, Water, Earth and Fire...and there are still 3 colours + none represent earth.
In Japan the Elements or Godai, includes the Void.
@@diegopastor8988 You are right; my bad... it is Air, Fire, Water, Earth. I mentioned Fire, Water, Air... I now have to assume the Earth is where the Rubber hits the Road -- the 'road' being Earth.
My very first vehicle was a Honda C50 in he 1970's. Did it's job, got me from a to b cheaply. Even when the piston rings broke up in the engine, it still kept going for a long time.
What, no VTEC?
...yo
I worked for a Honda dealer in 1970 and we sold a bunch or 50cc Cubs.
I think they sold for about $300 . Very good cycle, very reliable, easy to ride.
Yup! My CL90 cost $300 in 1968.
With a Super Cub, you can go anywhere you want.
That was my commute for a couple years, props to you for riding around those lunatics!
You're a hell of a rider brother. That skid had me sweating.
I nearly lost my tea there.
I still have never purposely skidded sideways my bike on pavement
He's riding it like he stole.. Clearly not his. Also waving hands around at the lights people must think he's nuts lol
This douche is a almost a non-rider when it comes to self preservation, and defensive driving. His waster mentality and inability to even utter the words "un-sprung weight" show how far we have come from the days of real technical writers who rode ( see cycle world in the 60's).. Had he done any research he would know the original engine was a push rod 50cc with a 3 speed, which became well revered OHC 90 cc ( see Super 90 and CT 90).. which is the engine sold in the 100's of millions, and with trailing link forks. Oh well. Do NOT ride like this fool, if you want to live. I've lived over 60 years on two wheels..and I can say that.
@@captlarry-3525 He's no Ari Henning.
In around 1975 I had the 90 cc version of this bike. I learned to ride with the RAC and took my test on it. It was a good idea then, it still is today.
In Malaysia, this super cub bike is more expensive than the top model Honda or Yamaha underbone mopeds, some people disagree with how Honda priced this bike at approximately USD$3700 while modern Honda underbone which is 25cc more than the super cub is priced at USD2200~. How can Honda justify the price point for this bike, or is this bike for those nostalgic "vintage" collectors?
It's ten times what it cost in 64, min wage 1.25 × 10 = 12.50 an hour to afford one. And be living at home.
There is a definite element of BS nostalgia appeal!
If you want to keep the spirit true, lose the useless electronic keyless ignition, put a proper two person saddle, and a price point below $2000. As it is, nice idea, but more gimmick than workhorse.
3700.00??! This is an outrage.
Alex Gian $2000 is unrealistic we won’t be getting Asian prices if people make 3x in the high income countries like Taiwan. Yeah but a price like $3000 would be reasonable.
Man .... you did an excellent report ... so smooth and you covered all possible questions and all the while driving too. Commendable
This motorcycle was so popular in south east asia
Especially in Vietnam and Thailand
Yeah.. People only buy it because you can install bucket to put vegetables and groceries
Even in Indonesia. We used to get the c70 and c80 version. After that, honda released astrea in early 90's, but i don't know what it's called worldwide.
I had a locally made step thru when I lived in Laos. Best urban/city transport I've ever owned.
I bought a new Super Cub C125 a few weeks back. I can't stop grinning.
Best bike for a student in Viet Nam ( under 18 years old and >16 we can only use 50cc bikes )
When you are done with this bike I am sure Egan would appreciate getting his hands on it. He would probably ride it cross country and write a great piece of motopoetry!
With his cyclist buddy 'because it's small"
Peter Eagan would prolly have more grins/mile than he got from his Norton proj. Peter, the world awaits your opinion
Everything old is new again. Nice scooter, but way too expensive today. They used to be dirt cheap.
Hellyeah
@@davidmcmanus5627
You'd be wrong about that. Lots of employees were making $1,000 per month back then. They could afford to buy it with two weeks of their salary. Not so nowadays.
Consider the inflation over the years..
@@rufusshum
Still too expensive, IMO. You can buy a decent used car for what that scooter costs.
Chuck Ster blame Trump for the tariffs on imports. This is a $2,000 motorcycle in the rest of the world
I had it’s “grandpa” back in the mid-1960’s. It was the 50cc drop-frame Cub which looked much like that. Electric start, no clutch, lots of fun, but nearly got me killed. I swore off two wheel transportation ever since.
In 1962 it was 50cc and in Jr High we called them our thrifty, nifty, Honda fifty
Never thought I would see one of these again !!! Very cool, thanks for the review Adam.
That color scheme is beautiful.
Have some Street cred.
biking is for all sizes of bike,big and small.
enjoyed that ride
Very interesting. I wasn't sure if the Super Cub could handle North American roads with our big fast vehicles, but it looks like it has no problem whatsoever.
This was excellent. Loved hearing about the history of the bike (Y)
I had a Honda C50 back in the early 1960's here in the UK before the government governed the engines to 30 mph top speed on them. My bike would do 55 mph quite easily and mileage was over 100 mpg if riding at around 40 mph. Very easy to maintain and a great fun bike to ride and very economical, all in all a great bike for around town.
Around town ? Maybe today, but back in the 70's, I toured Britain with mine, then France and Spain up to Gibraltar, starting from Belgium. The only thing that prevented me to ride flat-out for more than two hours was the small tank.
You Ride crazy 😂
Suicidal I would say.
I thought I was going to be the only one that thought this! Holy crap! I can understand lane splitting at stop lights, but not weaving within inches at speed lol
how he manages to operate one of the lowest powered economy based motorcycles like a maniac is confusing
Completely agree.
Don't drive between cars. That's a death wish. You are completely hidden to all the other vehicles.
I love this little Honda, it looks fun an modern. It's hard to beat my SYM 300. Big tires, Power, and I can carry two gallons of water and other groceries under the seat, it's crazy with room!
Funny that the older Cubs of 50, 70, and 90cc had pillion seats and this one has more power but only a solo.
American riders are fat and heavy.
I had a Honda 50 Supersport when I was a teenager in 1966 and it was such a great bike, I wish I still had it
If you think that was a congested road, try driving in most UK cities.
I think i'll buy one of these and ride it across Europe. I'm not a big fun for speed.. even that i have a Suzuki V-strom 1000.. But this...this is a pure joy to ride.. i just rode one of those and man.. i was smiling all the time i was riding it..
I had a 1965 Honda S65 (65cc) similar engine too that could do an honest 55/58 on back roads, My friend had the S90.
PeterDad60 I learned to ride on an S90!
I had a S65 also! Rode it to high school and part time job!
I still have my S90. It gets about 75 mpg.
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I have a Grom and an FZ6 (100hp 600cc). I might buy one of these just for fun next to my Grom. If you don't get mini bikes, you probably haven't owned one. They are ridiculously fun. And the mini bike group rides beat all other group rides of street legal bikes.
Now all they need to do is re-introduce the trail 90, maybe abit bigger engine, but they make any scooter pale in comparison
Already done, its called the CT-125 Hunter Cub
Really enjoying these commute reviews, especially the variety of motorbikes.
In Vietnam, you can carry a whole family on that!
and a pet!
@@Minsang1st lol class
I don’t need one and I probably wouldn’t ride it very much, but I’m oddly tempted to buy one. They are so iconic. I lived in Japan for 10 years after college and some variety of these bikes were everywhere. The ultimate utilitarian transporter. We’ll see …
The perfect bike for pizza delivery !
Adam with the Tom Cruise-like sound and mannerism. Very Top Gun confident.
$2500.00 would be more of a realistic retail price.
That's how much name brand 50cc bikes/mopeds typically cost new. The price is on par with every other 125cc name brand bike.
"But I found this china brander for 600$!" not the same.
"But I found a 125 for that used!"- yeah, USED.
It's not a moped. It is a full motorcycle. Find me a brand new, street legal, non-moped, name brand, motorcycle, for 2500$ MSRP.
They are $1500 where they are made..you pay import duties and taxes overseas. Thailand made goods are incredibly inexpensive in the country.
In South Asian markets like pakistan, this thing is sold for under 1000 USD. South Asian model lacks some functions though, like self start etc
Thank the president for putting tariffs on imports
@@fromtheflightdeck252well im in Vietnam and the price is still more than 3500usd 😵 that is so expensive for 125cc bike
I have a ‘72 SuperCub with 760 miles on it. Still runs great . Just a new plug each year.
I'd like a super long overdrive after 4th, 4.500 rpm when going 70 km/h, in order to max fuel economy.
If youre not towing much and 1st is a granny, put on a bigger front sprocket to bring everything up.
@@jasonjayalap That's usually what needs to be done, but it sucks.
The 4th gear was lacking on the honda 90. Giving a second gear that was a problem. Not high enough to use on a highway hill until the speed dropped a long way. That was far more of an issue than the top gear cruising revs.
@@smitajky u mean 3rd?
It'll get you 155mpg with care, but easily 120mpg, how much more do you want?
I bought one just after they came to America in the early sixties. Those were the Honda-50 which is what most of those sales were. The Super Cub is their newest model. In the interim that style of scooter was build in Taiwan who bought the rights to produce them I believe. Honda realized they fuqued up not continuing to make them and decided to start making them again, is all I can come up with.
30seconds more close up walk around at beginning of ride would be good. Slight disappointment. Great monologue though.
On the U.S. version back in the day, turn signals were not required on motorcycles or scooters. The single two person seat was produced with "rentals" in mind. Two inexperienced people got the hang of riding a lot faster on a single seat. I lived in The Bahamas in the sixty's and most hotels had a small fleet to rent. My family had a fleet of thirty of the old C-100's that we rented to collage students on spring break. Surprisingly nearly all did very well for the first time riding a motorcycle with a couple of minutes of instruction. Some had problems mind you, but mostly with remembering to drive on the left side of the road, and too much liquor.
Your driving between cars drives me nuts and scares the begesus out of me!
Yep. The kind of thing that makes people in cars hate motorcyclists.
@@rabbitruck - Not in LA, that's normal... We change a flat tire at 65mph! lol
syncro87 Only if you’re not used to lane splitting and filtering. As long as you do it safely it shouldn’t be a problem, but too many car drivers are selfish and get angry because they think you’re cutting the line.
@@YF19pilot You call the car drivers selfish but what does it say about MC riders when they feel they have the right to pull in front of those cars. Ever think that car might have wanted to turn right after stopping on a red.? I have been ridding for 60 years and see no need to be an ass.
@@melvinboyce9629 Perhaps self centered is the better term, but I don't see how filtering is being an ass. It's safer for me as a rider to move to the front if there's room for it. Being an ass is what car drivers do when they move to purposely block motorcycles from filtering. Now, I know there are jackasses on motorcycles who don't know how to filter or lane split correctly, but the act of lane splitting and filtering is not some dumb notion of me as a rider thinking I "deserve" to be in front of someone. Rather, I'm using my motorcycle's smaller size to maneuver through traffic and avoid accidents like being rear ended by someone distracted by their phone. If you personally don't want to filter or lane split, that's cool, but don't knock us who do.
gr8 review i used to ride a 50cc version back in the 50's...soooo much fun..this 125 cc looks really tempting..Honda delivers...
I live in The Bronx NY. I'll be dead within hour driving on streets. Yeah I know, I'll be dead anyway living in Bronx. ☹
Bang bang skid skid .....
Most guys, of a certain age, who are running around on Geezer Glides today learned how to ride on the Honda 50cc Cub of yesterday. I got one for Christmas when I was 10. Been riding ever since. The "Honda Monkey" formerly known as the Z50 Series was first introduced to the United States in 1968, a few years earlier elsewhere. You don't "need" something bigger, faster, more expensive...you "want" something bigger, faster, more expensive. Big difference.
Cute little bike, great vid very informative.
WOW. Great video! My first visit to your channel. So much background info on this bike, and your not talking like a clown. AND you drive like I wish I could! Liked and subscribed. Be well.
Forget this 125 stuff. They couldn't have made it at least a 250 for the US? Honda's 250 single is so great, and freeway worthy. Maybe a nice Tobacco brown color scheme... Havanna style.
jmr5707 that’s why they ditched the 250 after 2 years in the US market for a 300 right? No 250 is freeway worthy. They’re okay to jump on for a couple of exits or during rush hour but that’s it
@@jessaphillips2846 - 250 & 300 are practically the same... don't know why they changed it, myself. In California, anything about 200 or above is freeway legal. Not everything is a size race, either (Duhhhh, why not make it a 600? Duhhhhh...). Bikes like this are supposed to be small. It's about the ride, not how fast you get there. Why did Honda sell so many Grom's, stupid?
Worthiness is a matter of perspective. I only meant one COULD take the freeway, rather than spend all day on fucking surface streets. Don't take everything so literally. Sigh... yawn 😏
Back in the early Sixties you could rent 50 and 90cc versions of these where I grew up. I'm thinking for about 2 or 3 dollars an hour. This brings back a lot of memories but I never rode one. Great video Adam! I don't want one.
Japan answer to Italy Vespa, a Vespa with bigger wheels.
Really good review! Can’t believe you got on the highway with it! Thank you for that. Only 150cc’s are allowed on the highway. Lol.
Great video love the burnout bit and the Q&A part. Too bad it's only a single seater the front abs, led and keyless entry are great features imo
My commute to work is 1.1 miles. Urban, traffic, pedestrians. Aprila Scarabeo is the e-ticket. 2 stroke, big wheels, Pirelli's and discs.
Good grief man...
How about slowing down when driving that thing near workers in the street!
Good review.
agreed!
Awesome vid, had I not seen this I probably wouldn't have ever considered actually buying one of these. Now it's compelling!
Most Honda scooters are keyless, have more power, but are not imported to the US.
I have a 1960 one of these and it's still going right now never broke down
When you take turns you give me a heart attack everytime lol. You come in wicked hot and get so close to the outside edge. But great review very in depth on what to expect from this machine.
HONDA! What a great company. I've been riding since 1965 and they have always been an innovator. They know the value of 'race on Sunday-sell on Monday'. I've had a few motorcycles and the most dependable were Honda's. I'll always trumpet their dependability. My 1967 Honda cb160 was so much fun. I really miss that (stolen) bike. I've had numerous bikes since then, yet that bike was so special. I don't know why, but I don't care either.
Primary goal number one. Primary goal number two...
Good review. Even though driving between cars at lights is legal in most states I find it obnoxious. In my area drivers and cops alike would not react well and to you’d have a hard day in court avoiding a dangerous driving citation and occasionally somebody’s going to get out of their truck and confront you and that doesn’t always end up so well. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Anyway I found your overall review of this bike and history to be excellent. Will add it to my list of scooters and small cycles to consider.
I'm pretty sure 100+mpg is easily achievable on these.
With conservative riding, more like 135.
Fuck depending on rider 100-150mpg
Bruh, Honda once organized a fuel efficiency contest for these bikes here in Indonesia, with two main classes: the C100 class and NF125 aka Wave 125 class (no, not this engine, a different, long-stroke design). The rules are simple: commute to the designated point from the starting line. no time limit, just ride.The record? 1 liter for 152 kilometers for the 100 cc, and 1 liter for 145 kilometers (that's 357 and 334 miles per gallon respectively). Though to be fair, most of the riders don't accelerate above 40-60 kilometers per hour (around 24-40 mph, which is what commuters here usually ride the speed at) commute, but it's still an achievement.
@@sx4mania35 nice
Doubt it. My 50 cc scooter "only" gets 105 mpg, and that is a metric (4.5l) gallon.
My first bike was a 1965 Honda 55 cub when I was 14 years old. What a difference in 55 years
All the negative comments are a great reality check for the insanity that is lane-splitting here in CA.
I own a red and white 2020 model. I enjoy it alot. It's perfect for riding around town and two lane roads
Aussie here,, whoever designed the tall light for the American model needs his/her engineering licence revoked. Hideous. Also, the Australian model has the front indicators integrated into the handlebars, not on stalks. Looks heaps tidier.
Btw,, I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Still grinning. A great urban bike for running errands or ducking down to my local cafe.
Do you guys also have the new Honda Monkey? I am glad that Honda is bringing the tried and true Grom engine for older people; I am short, but at 49, would not want a Grom (maybe the MX5 there?). However, this or the Monkey on the other hand...
Wow...this video has influenced me to love this bike. I want one now! I love that there's no clutch! I hate clutch shifting. The semi-auto shifting is incredible! All bikes should have that!