@bobsouthland7123 Sorry, comrade, the price savings are not worth selling out my country to over a billion communists. CF Moto has a very sweet line up though.
They are crazily popular here in Japan. Everyone from college students to elderly ladies can be seen on these. (talking about the SuperCub in general, not the 2019 model)
The Cub is the most produced vehicle in the world, and for good reason! It's easy to ride, simple to operate and maintain, and it's very efficient. We couldn't get them in the USA for nearly 40 years (last model was the Passport in the early 1980's), so I was very eager to get this new model. It's a blast to ride! I fixed my shifter issues by rotating the lever one spline counterclockwise (toe down, heel up) and that made a world of difference for me. Cheers! 👍 --QM
parcel rack is a must. so handy... I used mine every day... I just have to say.... that design...colors and wheel black and bare milled look.... absolutely striking,. they did really nicely with this model. and that dashboard is Superrrb
I agree completely on the styling. The machined finish on the wheels is a very classy touch. Many early reviewers didn't like the fact that it had alloy wheels instead of spokes, but I prefer the alloy's for durability and road use. If Honda brings back the Trail series, then I would hope that it has spoked rims and knobby tires. --QM
Love the vid. I bought the only Super Cub that my dealer was getting here in North Iowa, but the weather has been uncooperative. Seeing a ride along and vlogs with the new Cubs hold me over. Thanks!
Thx for the feedback! I'm glad to help... although I might not help your budget. ;-) I just took my first motocamping trip on the Super Cub, so I'll edit and post that tonight or tomorrow... stay tuned! --QM
@@QuasiMotard As Hammer says in the 2008 Japanese film 'Super Cub'.... "I'm willing to pay for motorcycle." It's a great flick; there's a bluray copy of it on eBay right now. Anyway, I just got my buddy seat from Special Parts Takegawa and got that put on. I'm so excited to ride. I've wanted a new Cub for years. Anyway, thanks.
@@snake211987 SWEET! Let me know how that seat works for you, and how your new Cub works out for you. Send pics if you can : quasimotard@gmail.com --QM
thanks just bought one in Cambodia, such a sweet deal but Im a brand new Moto driver. So this really helped w seeing how the gear shifting and right side brake pedal worked in operation. Thanks bro :)
Thx for the feedback, and congrats on your new Cub! I adjusted my shifter angle to help me use the heel shift better, and that was a huge improvement for me (ua-cam.com/video/WnWNaJRNe64/v-deo.html). Does your bike have the reverse shift pattern like some of the Asian markets (e.g. pressing down on the toe to shift to higher gear) or the cyclical shift drum that lets you return to 1st gear from 4th without going all the way around? Several owners in the EU and Asian markets have mentioned that they have one or both of those features on their Cub's. Cheers! 👍 --QM
My first motorcycle was a brand new 1970 CB 350. I was 16 and needed parental permission, but bought it for cash with my own money: $728. That was a real thrill. It was the fastest bike at my high school.
You were a decade or so before me. I bought my first street-legal bike in cash when I was 14. In Oklahoma, you could get a motorcycle license at 14 years old, so I worked and saved my money from mowing lawns, collecting/returning glass bottles for recycling, cleaning houses, etc, etc. I went to Maxey's Honda Yamaha in Oklahoma City and paid ~$825 for a 1984 Honda XL125S enduro... brand new on the floor with 0 miles. (I almost bought the 1982 Honda CB125S, but I wanted something that could take the dirt, too) In less than 2 years, I had put almost 30K miles on that bike! It wasn't the fastest or prettiest bike, but I could take it anywhere, on road or off... it never complained, and it was dirt-cheap to operate and maintain. 😉👍 --QM
I’m just reviewing your “back catalogue “, thoroughly enjoyed this one. Interesting watching you learn your way round the gear changes. Later videos show how quickly you got your head around it. Never ridden a Cub but I might give it a go one day.
@keithallan8200 Thanks for watching and leaving feedback! I quickly learned that the trick to riding the Super Cub smoothly is SLOWLY releasing the shift lever. The Cub has two different clutches in the transmission. The first one is the centrifugal clutch that engages just above idle. The second one is a traditional multi-plate wet clutch, and that is actuated (disengaged) by moving the shift lever up/down. So that's where the slow release of the shift lever comes into play. Stabbing it quickly to make a change (like a traditional bike) results in "dumping the clutch". The shift and throttle timing is also slightly retired, so it takes a bit of relearning to use it smoothly. If you want to see the inside of the transmission, you can check this video of the oil spinner cleanout: ua-cam.com/video/rYjO_8luido/v-deo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Another point that I forgot to mention is that the US-spec and EU/UK-spec Cubs have different shift patterns and shift drums in the transmissions. The US-spec shift pattern is the traditional motorcycle layout: toe-down to downshift, toe-up (or heel-down) to upshift, and neutral at the bottom of the stack (N-1-2-3-4). The shift drum is reversed (GP style) for EU/UK models: toe-down to upshift, and toe-up (heel-down) to downshift. The European shift drum also includes a neat trick for wraparound to neutral while stopped. Instead of rowing down through the gears, the rider can skip straight to neutral from 4th gear while stopped (N-1-2-3-4-N). This only works while the bike is stationary for obvious safety reasons. 😉👍 --QM
Yep, most of the bikes that Wild West has on special are overstocks and warehouse specials. They have negotiated with the manufacturers to sell them at blow-out prices. Check out a recent video that I just posted where I do another walkthrough of the showroom: ua-cam.com/video/nikPsoDfBbk/v-deo.html . The prices on some of the bikes are truly astounding... I'm fighting with myself NOT to buy a couple of them. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard really though, you took this thing across country [multiple directions] and that's incredibly inspirational! So none of us are as cool as "c90adventures" aka "Ed march", but you and "Ed" are what inspired me to start riding 'motorcycles'... My wife let me buy this 'adorable' bike because of you and Ed... thank you!
Good morning to you ! I am an Grandpa and Cross Cub tourist from Japan . It is a nice bike video!! Honda Super Cub C125 is nice looks !! Have a nice day !
Greetings from the USA! You might enjoy my Scooter Cannonball Run series that I published recently: ua-cam.com/play/PLLXxDh3JumLnSK37lF4AcrF28frAIfLfA.html . My friend, Adrian, and I rode our Super Cubs nearly 10000 miles around the USA in July 2021. It was an epic journey and it was a true testament to Honda's reliabililty! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I consider myself fortunate to find your channel. I too have just purchased this bike five days ago. I have owned many motorcycles and scooters but I seem to prefer the small ones over the big ones. I thought it was funny that before you said you were going to adjust the sprockets, front one bigger rear one smaller I predicted that this is what you had in mind because I have done that with many of my bikes with sprockets just to help the engine not work as hard and make it feel like it has an extra gear. I look forward to seeing what you do with this Honda super cub. I do not like the seat because it makes me feel like I am always sliding forward and the heel toe shifter seems to be a little stiff for my foot. On all my scooters I have always added luggage racks to make my bikes more versatile. I will be exploring your other videos just to see what you have owned and what you have done to them. I currently own two PCX and now the super cub. Nice place you have. I have subscribed to your channel
Great minds think alike! I have lots of bikes and scooters, particularly 2 PCX150's (A white 2015, and a steel-grey 2016). The Super Cub is bike #16 in the stable right now (bike #88 over my riding career). I'll be adding some functional and safety mods to the Cub over the next few weeks, and I'll be sure to video that process to give everyone more info/ideas. --QM
hey i rode a classic super cub in vietnam for a month - for downshifting, you have to rev match "heel toe" it a bit for a smoooooth downshift. rev engine a bit before letting go and shift - helps with rev matching
Yep, thx for the tip! I figured out the timing after a few days, and rotating the shifter one spline counter-clockwise (toe down) helped tremendously. Cheers! 👍 --QM
i like ride a bike without a clutch because its very convenient and easy when u have a big stuff need to hold on. I live in Malaysia and this bike its really easy to find a bike like this
Superb fuel saver bike. Plus, the old model of this called C70 is like a dirt bike in rural areas of Borneo. The bike is sturdy enough to accommodate the rider and 90kg wild hog.
🤣 Nice! I want to see pictures of the wild hog on the back! I sincerely hope that Honda revives the CT110 (Trail 110 in the USA) as a 125cc model with spoke wheels, less plastic body work, and the auxiliary fuel tank on the back. I would buy two of those tomorrow! 👍👍 --QM
Its called Rev matching when you use the throttle right before downshifting your gears, when we know how to do it smoothly, it will make the bike run like floating.
Quasi the correct way to ride a cub when changing down gears press gear leaver and hold while matching engine speed with a blip on throttle and then let the pedal up. You use peddle as the clutch as you would on normal bike.
Excellent tip, thx! I'm learning the heel/clutch action and playing with engagement points and throttle matching. I don't worry too much about it hurting the Cub's driveline because these things are nearly bullet-proof. I'm just a mechanical perfectionist, and my abilities to shift the Cub smoothly are bugging me. ;-) The left foot placement is annoying, but I might be able to adjust to it without scrapping the heel-toe shifter... we'll see how that goes. --QM
Very true cubs just keep going. But once you master down shifts it's a much more pleasant ride as your not thrown forwards each down shift. Have fun stay safe.
Wow, I did not know this. I look forward to trying this with my super cub. I have always waited to almost dead stop to downshift. Very helpful information
Going way back to 1983, In high school in San Diego, I rode a C70 Passport all over town. In today’s traffic the Honda Cub will probably get you killed.
It depends on the area and how busy (bad) traffic is for your commutes. I have been riding my Cub in Houston traffic for a few weeks now, and it does OK. As with any motorcycle (especially small-displacement bikes), you really have to be proactive and hyper-aware to avoid being tattooed by cagers. Houston is DEFINITELY not bike-friendly territory. --QM
Especially in Texas. There are so many huge cars here. If you live in the suburbs can be a lot better.. just not Houston or Dallas. Austin is okay but there are a lot of young drivers who are untrained.
You need to release the throttle little longer before putting gear or change the gears on these bikes. And also you need to slow the bike before lowering the gears in junctions or at traffic lights stop. You also can change the gear from 4th to neutral while at complete stop at traffic light junctions. If you wants to turn left or right without stopping, no need to change gear or lowering the gear until 2nd or 1st. The momentum of the bike is enough to take you with little bit of throttle. If you really want a bit of pick up power while turning, you just need to change to 3rd gear is enough. That's how honda cub should be ride. Another tips, you can play with the throttle while keep on pressing the gears up or down while riding, then release the gear after you release the throttle. It's fun. I used to do that always while turn the bike left or right.
Thanks for the tips! This was an early ownership video when I didn't have any practice riding the Super Cub. The shift timing and the SLOW RELEASE of the shift lever is the key to smooth shifting the Cub. It took me a couple of days of riding the Cub to become accustomed to the slow release of the shift lever and the delayed timing for the throttle-blip (rev matching) for the downshifts. After a few hundred miles, it becomes second nature. The USA models have a traditional shift pattern/rotation compared to other parts of the world (N-1-2-3-4, toe-up/heel-down for up shift, toe-down for down shift). Our Cub's also don't have the wrap-around shift drum that allows return to neutral (4-N-1)... we have to shift down through the stack to neutral (4-3-2-1-N). Cheers! 👍 --QM
Honda sells a ton of "Honda Biz 125" here in Brazil. People love them as a city bike, basically the same bike as the c125A. Yamaha has his own model in this shape, the Yamaha Crypton 115, but is gone from the BR market, honda won this one. Nice video!
Greetings from the USA, and thanks for the feedback! I love the Biz 125! I have ridden those several times while visiting Brazil. I will probably buy a Biz or a PCX down there next year for our condo in Goiânia. Motorcycles and scooters are much cheaper to own and easier to park than cars... carros são tão caros de possuir e operar no Brasil! Cheers! 👍 --QM
Great bike! . If only the american market had all the asian underbone and scooter models, God u guys will go crazy with all those 125 to 250 models. And they really look great too!
I'm lucky enough to be in the age that those cubs first appear and I've ridden both the 50cc and the 90cc models.I've lived in the Philippines where it's always raining and roads are not that good then, and I found it that the automatic clutch is very convenient to use in those situations. I always start in 2nd gear when the road is wet or on a gravel{dirt} road to avoid rear tire slipping. The gear shifter shaft is serrated so you can adjust it with the front higher or lower.
Thanks for the reply! I remedied the shifter issue by rotating it one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) just a few days later: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . I really enjoy riding the Cub now... it's such an easy machine to live with. It's no wonder that Honda has sold over 100M of these bikes! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
We haven't had the Cub here in the USA since 1982 (was called the Passport back then). It's great to have them here again, and the 125cc fuel-injected motor is much better than the old 90-110cc carbureted version. 👍 --QM
Thx for the feedback! 👍 I have gotten better at shifting the Cub smoothly... it just takes some practice. On "normal" bikes that have a clutch, you want to move the shift lever as quickly and cleanly as possible to engage the next gear. However, on the Cub, the shift lever also controls the clutch engagement... so you want to slowly release the lever to get a clean engagement. The timing is backwards compared to all other manual shift bikes, so I'm relearning (unlearning) 40+ years of motor memory. As for your dad, hopefully he is cool in other ways. We're all just kids at heart... being an "adult" or a parent just changes our responsibilities and commitments. I'm just an overgrown kid that works hard enough to afford purchasing his own expensive toys. 😀 --QM
If the set up is like the older CUBS, mine being the C90CUB then I find with it when changing gear then if you keep pressure on the lever this disengaged the clutch, allowing you to blip the throttle (has) on down shifts so when you release the pressure off the lever the gear change is less clunky, given the engine speed is higher. This May be the ease as you mentioned if your heel is putting pressure on the gear change lever the clutch seems to be slipping, that would explain that behaviour. Hope this helps. Safe riding. Keep rubber side down and between the ditches.
Thanks for the feedback! I try to give a balanced view of the bikes that I own so that other prospective owners can make informed decisions about whether the bike might be suitable for them or not. I tend to be very critical of mechanical issues (a byproduct of my career), and I also push my bikes into roles that they probably weren't designed to handle... that's just part of the challenge for me. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Nice review. Thanks! I don't think you need to modify the shifter - just don't view it like a normal 'one down, four up' type gear lever. In Asia people rarely shift down - the little motor has enough torque to pull it's low weight in any gear anyway. You just go up to third or forth depending on road conditions and stay there until you need to stop, then you push again to go into neutral then again to go into first - and off you go again. It's a rotary shift pattern. It's not a sports bike that always needs to be in the perfect gear - any gear will do! The heel down shift can be used to change down if you're a perfectionist - just match the revs to the road speed as you mentioned in the video, but there's really no need, and millions of motorcycle taxi and delivery riders can't all be wrong. Edit - just noticed - you have a different shift pattern. That's too bad - the original rotary pattern is great for traffic riding.
I didn't know about the reverse pattern and rotary shift drum until other viewers mentioned that. I would like the wrap-around to neutral, but definitely not the reverse pattern... too much to relearn after 40+ years of normal motorcycle riding. I have adjusted the shift yoke one spline counterclockwise (toe down) to make the heel shift more useful for me. It's so much easier to shift now, and the clutch engagement can be modulated better now. I am tempted to skip 1st gear completely because it's so short, but traffic moves so fast here... if you don't accelerate away from a stop very quickly, then you risk being hit from behind by impatient cagers. --QM
You guys talking about the rotary shift pattern ? How does it work ? I cannot seem to wrap my head around it. Sounds confusing. My old super cub , was all the way down for neutral.. then four up. That's it. Exactly like my four wheeler quad.
@@timhudson1846 The bikes sold in Asia have the original semi-auto Supercub shift system. In practice you just keep pressing down. Click for first, then down again for second, down again for third, down again for top .... then cruise around in top until you need to stop at a junction, then down again for first ready to pull away. In theory you can change down a gear by pressing on the heel lever, and if you release the shift lever slowly it's a smooth-ish down change, but why bother with such a torquey little motor. Just keep going around ... 1.2.3.4,N,1,2,3,4. And if you never get into top due to heavy traffic, just stop in 3rd, and click down twice to get back to 1.
I saw a new one at the dealership back in December, very nice looking bike. I'm still thinking about getting one for riding around town and taking camping. Really nice bike. I know if you still have that bike, or if you re-geared it for more top speed, but I will tell you what I did with my little CRF100 dirt bike, to get more top speed. I went up 1 tooth on the front, and 4 teeth down on the rear. This resulted in the top speed going from 45mph to 53mph, and the bike still pulls great. Some guys who have made the CRF100 street legal, are gearing even higher, but there are diminishing returns at certain point.
Thx for the tips on the CRF100! I actually had one of the CRF110's for my son that I sold just a couple of years ago... those are great little bikes. I was a bit conflicted on the 15T front sprocket change on the Cub for the first week or so, but I'm used to it now and I don't think that I'll switch back. I thought about dropping 2-3 teeth on the rear to correct the speedometer discrepancy, but that would be getting back to near-stock gearing... so there is little point in making the change. My original intention was to calm the motor down just a bit at 50-55 mph because I was planning to take this bike on a 9000-mile trip around the USA for the 2020 Scooter Cannonball Run (more of an endurance event than top speed, so I didn't care too much about 60+ mph top-end). That event has likely been postponed this year due to COVID-19, so we'll try for 2021 or 2022 instead. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
They make them in black now, so its not such feminine colors for hte guys. Personally, these are too underpowered for me as I want to be able to go on highways on occasion. If they made a Super Duper Cub 300cc, I'd buy one.
good video man... i have one ...it take a lot of training to ride it smooth ....and one's you learned it .no one can ride it lik you... practice the rev match for down shift ...and always use rear brake first then front brake
Thx for the feedback! Agreed... it's tricky to learn how to shift the Cub smoothly. It took me a few days to teach myself the new habit of moving the shift lever SLOWLY instead of quickly like all other bikes. The other trick is learning the "late throttle blip" for rev-matching on the downshifts. Most bikes need the blip before or at the same time as the gear change, but the Cub is delayed because of the lever release. The first gear downshift always needs to wait until nearly stopped... it's just never smooth for me. It was tough to reprogram my brain after 40+ years of motor-memory and habits from riding "normal" motorcycles, but I'm much smoother with the Cub now. --QM
@@QuasiMotard what you 've said is right... i have something for you ...you need to know in witch rev or speed you need to shift up .... marke that for evey gear ....than one's you want to down shift let the lever slowly ... and have a look when it get's closer ; the speed or the rpm in the indicator ; make a small blip and then get back to the lever like when you shift up ... nothing fast like motorcycle eeverthing is slow don't worry about downshift wheen almost stop the bike will no gonna stall even in 4 th gear when stoped
@@QuasiMotard another thing ... if you shift early and you feel the bike struggle to accelerate be patient and never over rev it with the throattle ... it's like putting a 100 kilogram on your shoulders and some one push you to run .... it's not good for cranck shaft.and piston
All the complaints are things that are easily fixed. In my day (1970's) we removed the heel shifters. Riding with a centrifugal clutch requires that you focus more on synchronising speed with your shifts, but it was his first ride on the bike. Steve
Absolutely! I really like the Cub, and I have learned the timing for the downshifts now, so it's much easier to ride. I also adjusted the shift lever one spline counter-clockwise to raise the heel to a more comfortable position. I've been riding it as much as possible, including a road trip to Austin. The Cub has over 1000 miles on it already! --QM
Thanks for the review! Beautiful new bike you have there! Love the styling, but the difference shifting would mess me up switching between this and my bike I think. Very helpful.
It does take a little bit of adjustment to re-learn the shifting on the Cub vs normal bikes. Shifting with the heel is the smoother way to operate the Cub because you can raise your foot slowly to re-engage the clutch. The timing is the tricky bit... the throttle is "late" to roll on (or for rev-matching). It took me a few days of playing with the timing to get it right. Now that I have learned the motor-memory, I'm able to switch between the Cub and my other bikes without any problems. --QM
The Cub is a superb bike for learning to ride a motorcycle. The lack of a manual clutch can help new riders concentrate more on the balancing and operation of the bike instead of feathering the clutch to prevent stalling the motor. You still need to change gears, so that motor-skill is still learned and easily augmented with a clutch on a full motorcycle later if needed. If you decide to stay with the Cub, it's a fantastic machine for commuting and light/short journeys. I tend to push my bikes into bizarre roles that they weren't designed to handle, so I even take my Cub on long road trips. Proper planning and luggage options can turn it into a do-it-all machine, as long as you don't mind traveling relatively slow. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Man these are all over the Dominican Republic I got family over there and it was my first bike I learned on a 90cc shit is fast they mod them down there and have races with just Honda cubs
For the lighting I heard the us requires turn signals to be so many inches away from each other and that the aftermarket integrated tail lights are not technically street legal.
Yep, DOT requirements in the USA differ from the EU/UK specs. DOT requires a certain distance between the turn indicators, and the illuminated surface area is larger than the EU/UK specs. Auxiliary tail lights should be DOT-approved, but they aren't subject to the distance and surface area requirements if they are used in conjunction with OEM (DOT-approved) lighting. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I've watched a few of these videos now and I've noticed one comment that seems to be a reoccurring theme in all of them is how surprised the owner is at how nice the bike rides. I think part of this is due to a rather neutral suspension. It's like baby bear's porridge; not too soft, not too hard. Makes for a very "pleasing" ride, as long as one doesn't ride too aggressively (of course, its not a sport bike, either, so its really not built to be ridden aggressively...at least not on a normal basis). To accompany that, it also has fairly large wheels. That can help give a nice ride, too. The larger wheel can displace the load of driving down the road much better and not transfer so much of it directly to the suspension. This means the suspension doesn't have to be built quite so stiff because the wheel itself is doing some of the work. It's like, if you had a 10 lb. weight and you placed it on a board that was 1 sq.ft.. That board could only handle that weight in a certain way because there's only that much board to displace that load across. If that board were 3 sq.ft., it could handle that same load better because there's more board to spread that load across. Its the same with the wheels. The small wheel of a scooter will transfer the load of hitting a bump or a rut more directly to the suspension than a larger wheel of the Super Cub would because the scooter wheel has less area to displace that load across. ...of course, tires can make the difference here. If the smaller wheel has huge balloon tires and the larger wheel has thin little tires on it, the ride may be equal or may even favour the smaller wheeled bike, but everything else being equal, a bike with a larger wheel will always aid in giving you a more pleasing ride. The Cub/Super Cub has always been a nice bike. Now it seems to be "improved" just enough to deal with the modern world.
Agreed! I think it's a combination of proper spring rates and the larger wheels that really helps to smooth out the bumps compared to other "budget bikes". The quickest comparison that came to mind was my PCX150 scooters... they have a much rougher ride over the same roads than the Cub. Of course, the PCX's are heavier and have smaller diameter wheels/tires, but the difference is quite surprising. I really enjoy the Super Cub, and I already have over 2500 miles on mine so far. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Large wheel diameter makes the wheel roll over dips in the road rather than through them. This is why large wheels help; in your explanation, a wider wheel would work equally wel as a larger diameter wheel.
Thanks for the feedback! The ugly signals and tail light that our Cub's get in the USA is due to our DOT regulations. There are minimum requirements for indicator surface area and distance between the signal lenses that the EU/UK models don't meet... so that forces us to get the ugly "hippo ears" lighting instead of the sleek, integrated units that other markets have. The rear footpeg and passenger seat is a similar issue. Our DOT regs mandate that footpegs must be mounted on a fixed part of the bike frame and not on the swingarm (movable unit). Cheers! 👍 --QM
Me too! 😉 I am back in town now after my hiatus, so I plan to get the Timbuk2 Tandem panniers modified to fit this coming week... hopefully. The only remaining bit for that solution is some basic hoop supports to keep the bags away from the rear shocks, fender, and wheel. That won't be anything fancy, but I will paint those supports or have them powder-coated for a cleaner look. --QM
I finally sat on a Super Cub yesterday in the showroom. I never considered my self to be a large person, but at 5'10"(ish) and approx 200#, I looked comically overlarge astride it. It was disappointing because I've had an abiding fondness for the Cub since the 1970s when they called it the Passport. I also checked out the ADV 150 and the PCX 150 and I seemed a bit overlarge for those as well. I had my wife take photos of me astride each bike so I could assess this. I could live with either if I had to, but I don't have to, so I won't. Maybe Honda needs to bring back a mid-size scooter in the 250-300cc range. The Rebel 500 was an acceptable fit. I'm sorta short legged and long torsoed (29"/30" inseam) so, for a cruiser, it was not too cramped in the leg nor any kind of stretch to the handlebars. The problem with the Rebel 500 is that it costs about the same as the new Royal Enfield Int650 twin, which looks and feels *exactly* like the bikes I rode as a teenager. So, next trip is to my local Royal Enfield dealer. If you haven't gotten acquainted with the new Royal Enfield models it a worthwhile endeavor. I think there's a dealer in Katy. I used to live in League City over towards the Kemah side of town. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback! The Cub is a small bike for sure. I like some of the new R-E bikes, and I've been looking hard at the Bullet Trials 500... that's a really cool retro bike! 😉👍 --QM
Japan has such great small bikes (and cars, too). It's too bad that we can't get a lot of the EU and Asian market selection of motorcycles here in the USA. The new Super Cub is returning impressive fuel mileage so far... over 140+ mpg in town and ~120 mpg on the highway (wide-open throttle most of the time). --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you. if you see any good mods without wrecking the look of the bike I'd appreciate it. I see a blue matching rack that others have posted but can't see it listed under Honda. Maybe just for Japan/Thailand. I've subscribed!
@@K22MDL EXACTLY! I was so annoyed when I picked up my rack today and it's CHROME... where is the matching blue that Honda shows in all of their literature?!!! Oh well... I'm going to use it and it will be covered up with panniers most of the time anyway. --QM
@@K22MDL I'm not sure about the ABS options on that side of the pond. I believe that all of the NA units are ABS-only, so maybe that's why we only get the blue? We can't get any other color here for now. --QM
Thx for the feedback! It's a nice neighborhood, but the crime is starting to creep into our area... lots of thefts and break-ins lately. We're hoping to move to a more rural area someday soon. Cheers! --QM
Congratulations! Enjoy that beautiful machine. The footpeg holes need to be drilled and tapped. The reason for the different turn-signals than the Euro/other versions is that there was not enough separation between the signals to comply with USDOT regulations. They needed to be farther apart.
Great info, thx! I don't think I'll ever need to put the pegs on this one, but the luggage rack is already on the way. The photos online cheat, though... the rack is chrome and not painted blue to match the bike... oh, well. As for the signals, I wasn't surprised to see the larger/wider indicators here... we always get the ugly stick because of DOT regulations. I will probably replace the rear light assembly with the euro unit... it's just cleaner and fits the bike's aesthetic better. --QM
Most of the world outside of the USA has a very rich assortment of small-displacement bikes. We don't get many here because the sales are typically too low for the manufacturers to risk importing them and then not be able to sell them at a profit. We saw the end of fun, small-displacement machines back in the early 1980's, and they didn't return until Honda introduced the Grom (MSX-125) back in 2014. Until then, our "entry-level" bikes started at 225-250 cc's, and they usually sold very slowly/poorly here in the USA. I hope this signals a resurgence of "interesting" small bikes in the USA again, but it's really up to the buyers/riders to make that happen. Too many people here are stuck in the "bigger is better" and go-fast mentality to appreciate the small bikes. We have large cities and vast distances to cover by highway here in Texas, so it's even harder for most people to consider a motorcycle that can't travel at 75+ mph all day long. We can just hope and wait to see if other manufacturers bring some of their small bikes to this side of the pond. 👍😉 --QM
it also helps to hold the shift lever down during upshifts and wait for the revs to match before releasing it. And the downshifts is just a matter of getting used to it, I usually just give it a bit of gas. got a 1971/1972 Honda C50h
Thx for the feedback! I think I'm finally adjusting my timing to match the Cub's expectations better now... about 300 miles down now. This morning I adjusted my shift lever one spline counter-clockwise to raise the heel and lower the toe. It made a HUGE difference for me in general foot comfort and also in shift-ability. The heel-shift actually works for me now, and the down shifts are easier with the toe lower down. --QM
QuasiMotard Glad to hear, Semi-automatic can be so much fun when you're used to it. mine actually never had a heel-toe shifter since it is the Dutch version which came with bicycle cranks and a normal shift lever
The Cub video was made in March 2019. They don't have the specials advertised on the website very often... not sure why they don't update that content. I have several other videos of their showroom that I haven't posted because a lot of time elapsed and those bikes are probably long gone now. Whenever we end our COVID-19 lock down here in Houston and "non-essential" businesses reopen, I'll head back over there to make a fresh video... probably to pick up another bike! 😉👍 --QM
I own a 2018 Yamaha Star Venture Trans Continental...but with gas in Canada heading towards $6.00 per gallon....I am considering one for blowing around town, and going to the lake on the county roads. They are not being imported into Canada yet...but when they do...I'll be on one! Great vid.
Thanks for the feedback! The little Super Cubs are great bikes... as reliable as hammers, extremely efficient, and stupid-simple to operate. If I keep the speeds under 50 MPH (80 km/h), then my Cub returns ~135 US mpg (1.742 L/100km, or 57.3944 km/L). We recently made a 2100-mile road trip on our Super Cubs, and my average fuel economy was 114 US mpg! Total miles traveled: 2088 Total fuel consumed: 17.881 US gallons Total fuel expenses: $35.58 USD Average fuel economy: 114.2 MPG Highest fuel economy: 134.6 MPG Lowest fuel economy: 100.5 MPG You can review a PDF of the spreadsheet in my public Google Drive folder here: drive.google.com/file/d/1-nMN52nMGwQHk0-oqd60RA-8-GImI3iP/view?usp=sharing . Cheers! 👍
@@QuasiMotard You know...lol, you're killing me with that MPG! I will get one, as soon as they bring them in, if they do at all. If so...there will be another out there! Thanks for all the info! Cheers and happy, safe, rides!
I had a Harley one time with a toe heel shifter and I loved it. Keeps your boots from getting messed up on the toe. But I understand your situation. Just doesn't quite fit you.🇨🇱
Actually, the shifter problem was remedied a few days later by rotating the lever one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) so I could reach it better: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . The factory position didn't work for me because I couldn't rest my heel near the shifter without slightly disengaging the clutch, but I also couldn't press it fully down to complete the shift without contorting my leg out of position. Rotating the shifter fixed the problem for me! 👍 --QM
Thx for the feedback and the sub! I think you'll like the Super Cub. It is definitely more engaging to ride than a scooter. You would lose some of the convenience factors of the Elite 110 (e.g. under-seat storage, twist-and-go , and the flat floorboard/footwell), but you gain so much more character and ride quality. Don't get me wrong... I love scooters, and I own 4 right now, but the Cub beats all of them in the fun factor. Just add the luggage rack to give some cargo capacity and you're set. Another huge bonus of the Cub is the fuel economy... so far, mine is averaging 136.6 mpg and the last two fill-ups have been over 142 mpg (motor just out of break-in period with ~450 miles). Stay tuned for more Cub ride videos. I am packing my camping gear and headed up to Austin, TX for the MotoGP races at COTA this weekend. I'll be motocamping for 3-4 days and recording a bunch of video of the ride and the event. Cheers! --QM
I rode a C70 for many years.. It was identical to this one. You do not downshift with this bike. You wait until you stop and hit the gears down a couple of times when you stop. even 3rd gear can work at slow speeds. you do not need the heel shifter. just use the toe..... Man, I want this bike... I really want them to bring back the C70 "PASSPORT"
I have finally figured out the timing for the downshifts and throttle blips (for the most part, anyway). It also helped to rotate the shifter one spline counterclockwise (toe downward, heel upward)... this helped me immensely and now I can actually use the heel shifter for smoother upshifts. Another interesting note about the USA Cub vs some other markets... our shift pattern is N-1-2-3-4 in order, but EU models can wrap around back to N while stopped (N-1-2-3-4-N-1-2...). That would make it easy to coast down to a stop and then click straight back to neutral. Apparently, the Asian markets have a reverse shift pattern (press down on toe to shift up)? --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yeah, my 1991 cdi (Malaysia) is n 1 2 3 4 n 1.. on the toe. My friend told me the only downside to his new cub was the aggressive down shifts so I let him ride on the back of mine to help him feel it out...glad to hear you've got the timing sorted. Just gotta feel it out really.
The Cub is certainly a lot of fun to ride... it's no wonder that Honda has sold over 100M of these bikes over the last 60 years. The fuel economy on my bike with mixed surface streets and highway access roads averages ~140 MPG. Even when I run wide-open throttle on the highway, it averages about 119 MPG... that's crazy efficient! The lowest figure that I've observed so far was 101 MPG when running wide-open against 20+ mph headwinds for a full tank of fuel. You can track my mileage stats on Fuelly if you're interested: www.fuelly.com/driver/quasimotard . Cheers! 👍 --QM
Do you know if there is any deals on the ADV 150 for $2-$3 grand? From my research it’s a brand new category in the US. But $4,200 sticker is very steep for me. I keep going back and forth between the ADV 150 and the Ruckus. Even though the Ruckus is more in my price range. But I also max out the weight limit on the Ruckus as well. Which I need to fix. Any ideas? I had a Honda passport back in the 90’s as a kid and it was so amazing! So it’s been a few years since I’ve owned a motorized bike. No I do not have my motorcycle license either.
That's not likely to happen for a while because the ADV150 is a new release... the dealer's invoice price on it is probably over $3500. You might be able to snag one in another year or two for that price from a previous owner or maybe a dealer that's ready to move old inventory. If you are at (or over) the weight limit for the Ruckus, then you shouldn't get one... trust me. Their 50cc motor is very limited on power and you probably need a scooter with a larger motor. If you like the utilitarian look of the Ruckus, then you might want to look at the Yamaha Zuma 125 instead... you can usually find those used for under $2500, and new ones are $3599 MSRP ( www.yamahamotorsports.com/scooter/models/zuma-125 ). Cheers! 👍 --QM
Really? I like the machined finish on the alloy wheels... it's a nice touch on such a "budget" bike. However, I really hope that the new Super Cub is successful enough in the USA that Honda decides to bring back the Trail 110 as a new 125 based on this same design... spoked wheels, maybe another 1" of suspension travel, and the classic auxiliary fuel tank. Man, that would be a hoot with the new 125cc FI motor. --QM
I use to own one of this n the trick for down shifting is accelerate a little bit,that will make it smoother,my first bike in the 80 s n I couldn’t destroyed it,mother bought it for the house in a Caribbean island it was my bro sister aunt uncle family friends every body rode it al day very day but not me been the youngest until finally every one left n it was only mine muajajajaja muajajajajaj mine amazing simple technology
I finally learned the coordination and late throttle-blip for the downshifts after a few days of riding the Cub. I rotated the shift lever counter-clockwise (down on the toe, up on the heel) one spline to make it easier for me to use. It's a great bike, and I'm really enjoying it. I have about 3000 miles the clock now and steadily climbing. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I bet that's a fun little bike to ride. I had a C90 back in 1968, it was my second bike, first was a Cushman Eagle in jr high and high school. The C90 was fun but needed a little bit more power, a 125 would be a lot better. A little bike is a nice break from my normal GL1800.
Exactly! They are a great change of pace to ride... very refreshing. The C125 has just enough power to get around while still keeping that small bike feeling. I own lots of bikes... everything from scooters to hyper-sports, and I find that the small bikes are such a blast to ride. I've owned many full-dress and sport-touring bikes over the years (89 bikes and counting) and those rolling Lazy-Boy recliners are great out on the open road. Unfortunately, I spend most of my 45K+/year moto miles doing the daily grind just commuting in traffic. Those big machines are a serious PITA to handle in stop-and-go traffic while sitting still in Houston's sweltering heat. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
No worries, thx for the feedback! It's a fun bike for sure. Many people think that it's too expensive for what it is (or for what you get), and I don't disagree... it's a little spendy. However, I really liked it since I saw the teaser bikes in the EU motorcycle shows over the past few years, and I knew that I wanted one as soon as they were released in the USA. I don't mind paying a few hundred extra dollars for the nostalgia! 👍😉 --QM
@@worldhello1234 Um... guilty as charged. I ride with gloves, jacket, helmet, and motorcycle boots/shoes 99% of the time. Occasionally, I'll get lazy or complacent when I'm just riding to the corner market or around the neighborhood (as in this video). It's a bad idea, for sure. 👍 --QM
I love this little bike!...ty for the review!...you said first gear was down & what about the other gears, is second, third, fourth shift up????? I don't know that is why i am asking, thank you
The Cub's transmission is different than other bikes. The shift pattern is N-1-2-3-4, so neutral is at the bottom. The clutch is centrifugal (engages above idle) and the shift lever disengages it for shifts when you move the lever up or down. It took me a few days to learn the timing and how to move the lever slowly for smooth shifts, but I think I've got it down now. I did adjust the shift lever to make it more comfortable for my use. --QM
Thx for the feedback and the wishes! My son and I have been waiting for the Cub to arrive for a long time. We started drooling over it 3-4 years ago while watching videos of the European motorcycle shows. I guess I'm just a nerd/geek because I love small bikes and scooters... we have 5 scooters, plus the Super Cub (not quite a scooter). For those motorcyclists out there that sneer at scooters... DON'T KNOCK IT UNTIL YOU TRY IT! They are a blast to ride... just twist and go, and not so fast that you miss the world as it passes by your helmet visor. It's so nice just to relax and enjoy the ride (and scenery) sometimes! --QM
Thx for the feedback! I really like the styling, and everyone else that I meet EVERY time I ride it seems to have the same opinion. It starts conversations everywhere... all of the nostalgia and memories come flooding back for so many people. They are compelled to come over and strike up a conversation, and to tell me about one that they had back in the 60's or 70's. It's a lot of fun. --QM
I sold my Honda wave because of the abrupt down shift, I thought it was shocking and unsafe for my daughter to ride, she was new to motorcycling. It was a pity since the build quality was top notch.
I remedied the shifter problem a few days later by rotating the lever one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) so I could reach it better: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . The factory position didn't work for me because I couldn't rest my heel near the shifter without slightly disengaging the clutch, but I also couldn't press it fully down to complete the shift without contorting my leg out of position. Releasing the shift lever smoothly is the trick to smooth shifts on these bikes. Rotating the shifter and being able to articulate my ankle more smoothly fixed both problems for me! 👍 --QM
I started watching this to see what these might cost! I was encouraged when you showed the prices on the larger bikes, but guess what? When the super cub comes up,not a price in sight! It's a secret,I guess!
I thought that I had mentioned the price in the video somewhere, but I may have missed that bit. I paid full list price because it was a new model and the waiting list was 10+ deep behind me... no haggling on price in those cases. My total OTD price was $4173.82 ($3799 + taxes and fees), and then I added the 5-year extended warranty a few days later for another few hundred dollars. Cheers! --QM
Yes, sir! That's what I did just a few rides later. The heel portion was too high to rest my foot on the peg comfortably, but it was too low to activate a shift. I rotated the shifter one spline counter-clockwise (heel up, toe down) and it is much better now: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html --QM
Thx for the feedback! I agree about the issue of riding without gloves. I almost never ride without the necessary gear... helmet, jacket,, gloves and proper boots/shoes. Sometimes (like this occasion) I will ride around my neighborhood area to make quick/local trips without fully gearing up. It's a calculated risk, for sure. If I'm going more than a mile away or on faster streets, then I always wear full gear. That delves into the ATGATT discussion (all the gear all the time)... "dress for the slide, not for the ride". I'm more of a MOTGATT (most of the gear all the time) kind of guy. I don't usually wear armored pants because of the heat/humidity in Houston, but I will go full ATGATT when I take road trips or ADV rides. The armor on the legs can be a real skin saver and they take impact from road debris better than jeans. --QM
Its a little like my 100cc Sym symba. The heel toe shifter on mine can be unclamped, slide off the spline and go on again at a different angle.. I use heel-heel shift anyway, as going down to 1st and 2nd is also a very low speed thing..It will do 80kmh and as the bike is so light, a cross wind will affect it too much at higher speed...I would be very sad if I didn't have a side stand or kick starter..Only ever had one major problem, The rubber connecting the carb to the air cleaner developed cracks that were hard to see. It let in air and rain. These cub designs are all very similar but I hate to see them leaving out things that worked well.
Agreed! The lack of a side stand for the USA market was a major oversight, IMHO. I have added the side stand to my bike and it really improves the usability: ua-cam.com/video/SVoEJhqE68A/v-deo.html . The only thing that we're missing here is the ignition interlock safety switch that kills the ignition if the side stand is down and the bike is in gear. I have searched for the part, but Honda doesn't want to make it available for the USA market. My bike doesn't appear to have the plug for the wiring harness, so maybe that's the reason? Otherwise, I really like having the side stand for convenience and stability (e.g. parking on soft or uneven surfaces). 👍 --QM
That's a good question... it really depends on how obnoxious they are. If they offend my OCD sensibilities, then I de-badge the entire bike... no labels, stickers, logos, graphics... nothing... I strip all of 'em. I'll leave the manufacturer emblems and the swingarm labels (e.g. chain info, tire pressure labels) and nothing else. I de-badged my Honda CB500X for the same reason... it was too visually-busy, and I didn't like the big red "X" logos along the side cowls. Nothing a heat gun and some "Goo Gone" can't fix! --QM
Agreed! The smart key is nice around town, but I've had it lose sync with the bike twice and leave me unable to start the bike for a while. The Trail 125 (CT125) that I just purchased uses a standard key, which is great for off-road conditions: ua-cam.com/video/XFs0md7YUbU/v-deo.html . 👍 --QM
Add a rectangular carry box with a lid that opens forward and you can have 60 litres of storage and a sorting area. Saving hundreds of dollars driving to the corner store in the car.
I haven't added any storage to the Cub yet, but I do take my other scooters (Honda PCX150 and Yamaha C3) for quick shopping trips almost daily. They are a great, economical way to take short trips, and you can park just about anywhere! 👍 --QM
Yeah, it has a really good exhaust note for a 125, IMHO. The video doesn't do it justice because I have to normalize the audio a little bit to remove wind noise and some low-frequency rumble. That rumble filter also removes some of the lower exhaust note. It's such a fun little bike to ride... I'm really enjoying it. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Haha... NOT! I got a good chuckle out of that one. However, I do run the I-10 feeder roads and do the occasional on-and-off to skip the traffic lights. It does surprisingly well for a 125, but momentum is definitely the game there... avoid slowing because it takes a while to build speed again. --QM
@@AgFish86Zip90 Yeah, I'll have to think about that one. If I could only figure out how to lasso a fast-moving 18-wheeler and simultaneously drop the Cub into neutral... it could work... I've seen it done in a cartoon before. 🤣 You can cook 85+ mph on Hwy 99 and still nearly be run over by some cagers out there. --QM
should blip the throttle a bit during the down shift like in between after pressing and releasing the gear lever. during up shift put your heel on the peg and hit the lever with the ball of your foot and the opposite for downshift (ball of the foot on the peg and hit the lever with your heel) also you can put your left foot sideways on the peg because this bike is japanese and people there have small feet
I've gotten better at shifting the Cub now... see some of my more recent ride videos. The timing is part of the trick, but readjusting the heel-toe shifter to sit higher in the back (lower in the front) was the real key for me. The factory position just didn't work for me at all, but now it's perfect. It makes all the difference in smooth clutch engagement between shifts. --QM
So painful to see those great deals from 2019! Who would have thought things would be so different in 2022
Honda iis way over priced I have went to buying bikes from China . is making good quality bikes at half the price . Look at the Lifan LYCAN .
@bobsouthland7123 Sorry, comrade, the price savings are not worth selling out my country to over a billion communists. CF Moto has a very sweet line up though.
im a uk.whats the differance to 2022?
Im here for the new anime "Super Cub" 😌😌😌
Boy do I wish they were still doing prices like that nowadays... great video, strongly considering this or a CT125.
Did you get one ?
You'll never see prices like that again. The inevitable effect of currency devaluation
I love the vintage look of this bike, a must have for looks alone. That and it’s sound is pulled straight out of “The Jetsons”. 👍
They are crazily popular here in Japan. Everyone from college students to elderly ladies can be seen on these. (talking about the SuperCub in general, not the 2019 model)
The Cub is the most produced vehicle in the world, and for good reason! It's easy to ride, simple to operate and maintain, and it's very efficient. We couldn't get them in the USA for nearly 40 years (last model was the Passport in the early 1980's), so I was very eager to get this new model. It's a blast to ride! I fixed my shifter issues by rotating the lever one spline counterclockwise (toe down, heel up) and that made a world of difference for me. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I freakin love the looks of this bike.
parcel rack is a must. so handy... I used mine every day... I just have to say.... that design...colors and wheel black and bare milled look.... absolutely striking,. they did really nicely with this model. and that dashboard is Superrrb
I agree completely on the styling. The machined finish on the wheels is a very classy touch. Many early reviewers didn't like the fact that it had alloy wheels instead of spokes, but I prefer the alloy's for durability and road use. If Honda brings back the Trail series, then I would hope that it has spoked rims and knobby tires. --QM
Love the vid. I bought the only Super Cub that my dealer was getting here in North Iowa, but the weather has been uncooperative. Seeing a ride along and vlogs with the new Cubs hold me over. Thanks!
Thx for the feedback! I'm glad to help... although I might not help your budget. ;-) I just took my first motocamping trip on the Super Cub, so I'll edit and post that tonight or tomorrow... stay tuned! --QM
@@QuasiMotard As Hammer says in the 2008 Japanese film 'Super Cub'.... "I'm willing to pay for motorcycle." It's a great flick; there's a bluray copy of it on eBay right now. Anyway, I just got my buddy seat from Special Parts Takegawa and got that put on. I'm so excited to ride. I've wanted a new Cub for years. Anyway, thanks.
@@snake211987 SWEET! Let me know how that seat works for you, and how your new Cub works out for you. Send pics if you can : quasimotard@gmail.com --QM
thanks just bought one in Cambodia, such a sweet deal but Im a brand new Moto driver. So this really helped w seeing how the gear shifting and right side brake pedal worked in operation. Thanks bro :)
Thx for the feedback, and congrats on your new Cub! I adjusted my shifter angle to help me use the heel shift better, and that was a huge improvement for me (ua-cam.com/video/WnWNaJRNe64/v-deo.html). Does your bike have the reverse shift pattern like some of the Asian markets (e.g. pressing down on the toe to shift to higher gear) or the cyclical shift drum that lets you return to 1st gear from 4th without going all the way around? Several owners in the EU and Asian markets have mentioned that they have one or both of those features on their Cub's. Cheers! 👍 --QM
My first motorcycle was a brand new 1970 CB 350. I was 16 and needed parental permission, but bought it for cash with my own money: $728. That was a real thrill. It was the fastest bike at my high school.
You were a decade or so before me. I bought my first street-legal bike in cash when I was 14. In Oklahoma, you could get a motorcycle license at 14 years old, so I worked and saved my money from mowing lawns, collecting/returning glass bottles for recycling, cleaning houses, etc, etc. I went to Maxey's Honda Yamaha in Oklahoma City and paid ~$825 for a 1984 Honda XL125S enduro... brand new on the floor with 0 miles. (I almost bought the 1982 Honda CB125S, but I wanted something that could take the dirt, too) In less than 2 years, I had put almost 30K miles on that bike! It wasn't the fastest or prettiest bike, but I could take it anywhere, on road or off... it never complained, and it was dirt-cheap to operate and maintain. 😉👍 --QM
I’m just reviewing your “back catalogue “, thoroughly enjoyed this one. Interesting watching you learn your way round the gear changes. Later videos show how quickly you got your head around it. Never ridden a Cub but I might give it a go one day.
@keithallan8200 Thanks for watching and leaving feedback! I quickly learned that the trick to riding the Super Cub smoothly is SLOWLY releasing the shift lever.
The Cub has two different clutches in the transmission. The first one is the centrifugal clutch that engages just above idle. The second one is a traditional multi-plate wet clutch, and that is actuated (disengaged) by moving the shift lever up/down.
So that's where the slow release of the shift lever comes into play. Stabbing it quickly to make a change (like a traditional bike) results in "dumping the clutch". The shift and throttle timing is also slightly retired, so it takes a bit of relearning to use it smoothly.
If you want to see the inside of the transmission, you can check this video of the oil spinner cleanout: ua-cam.com/video/rYjO_8luido/v-deo.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Another point that I forgot to mention is that the US-spec and EU/UK-spec Cubs have different shift patterns and shift drums in the transmissions.
The US-spec shift pattern is the traditional motorcycle layout: toe-down to downshift, toe-up (or heel-down) to upshift, and neutral at the bottom of the stack (N-1-2-3-4).
The shift drum is reversed (GP style) for EU/UK models: toe-down to upshift, and toe-up (heel-down) to downshift. The European shift drum also includes a neat trick for wraparound to neutral while stopped. Instead of rowing down through the gears, the rider can skip straight to neutral from 4th gear while stopped (N-1-2-3-4-N). This only works while the bike is stationary for obvious safety reasons. 😉👍 --QM
Reminds me of the early 1980s when there was a large amount of unsold inventory that sold at reduced prices.
Yep, most of the bikes that Wild West has on special are overstocks and warehouse specials. They have negotiated with the manufacturers to sell them at blow-out prices. Check out a recent video that I just posted where I do another walkthrough of the showroom: ua-cam.com/video/nikPsoDfBbk/v-deo.html . The prices on some of the bikes are truly astounding... I'm fighting with myself NOT to buy a couple of them. 😉👍 --QM
Bless you sir
How much is this Honda C125 2019. There is an agent demand here in Nigeria.
Thanks
and itll get worse in years to come too..
Knowing what we all know now about you and your C125... what a cool retrospective.
well done QuasiMotard {2021 owner}
"That fine line between bravery and stupidity is endlessly debated - the difference really doesn’t matter." (Bear Grylls)
@@QuasiMotard really though, you took this thing across country [multiple directions] and that's incredibly inspirational!
So none of us are as cool as "c90adventures" aka "Ed march", but you and "Ed" are what inspired me to start riding 'motorcycles'...
My wife let me buy this 'adorable' bike because of you and Ed... thank you!
Congratulations one day when I grow up I hope to get one
Good morning to you !
I am an Grandpa and Cross Cub tourist from Japan .
It is a nice bike video!!
Honda Super Cub C125 is nice looks !!
Have a nice day !
Greetings from the USA! You might enjoy my Scooter Cannonball Run series that I published recently: ua-cam.com/play/PLLXxDh3JumLnSK37lF4AcrF28frAIfLfA.html . My friend, Adrian, and I rode our Super Cubs nearly 10000 miles around the USA in July 2021. It was an epic journey and it was a true testament to Honda's reliabililty! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I consider myself fortunate to find your channel. I too have just purchased this bike five days ago. I have owned many motorcycles and scooters but I seem to prefer the small ones over the big ones. I thought it was funny that before you said you were going to adjust the sprockets, front one bigger rear one smaller I predicted that this is what you had in mind because I have done that with many of my bikes with sprockets just to help the engine not work as hard and make it feel like it has an extra gear. I look forward to seeing what you do with this Honda super cub. I do not like the seat because it makes me feel like I am always sliding forward and the heel toe shifter seems to be a little stiff for my foot. On all my scooters I have always added luggage racks to make my bikes more versatile. I will be exploring your other videos just to see what you have owned and what you have done to them. I currently own two PCX and now the super cub. Nice place you have. I have subscribed to your channel
Great minds think alike! I have lots of bikes and scooters, particularly 2 PCX150's (A white 2015, and a steel-grey 2016). The Super Cub is bike #16 in the stable right now (bike #88 over my riding career). I'll be adding some functional and safety mods to the Cub over the next few weeks, and I'll be sure to video that process to give everyone more info/ideas. --QM
@@QuasiMotard is the rear sprocket the same size as the c70? 32 teeth? I put a 17 tooth on the front and gave me more top speed :)
hey i rode a classic super cub in vietnam for a month - for downshifting, you have to rev match "heel toe" it a bit for a smoooooth downshift.
rev engine a bit before letting go and shift - helps with rev matching
Yep, thx for the tip! I figured out the timing after a few days, and rotating the shifter one spline counter-clockwise (toe down) helped tremendously. Cheers! 👍 --QM
i like ride a bike without a clutch because its very convenient and easy when u have a big stuff need to hold on. I live in Malaysia and this bike its really easy to find a bike like this
Superb fuel saver bike. Plus, the old model of this called C70 is like a dirt bike in rural areas of Borneo. The bike is sturdy enough to accommodate the rider and 90kg wild hog.
🤣 Nice! I want to see pictures of the wild hog on the back! I sincerely hope that Honda revives the CT110 (Trail 110 in the USA) as a 125cc model with spoke wheels, less plastic body work, and the auxiliary fuel tank on the back. I would buy two of those tomorrow! 👍👍 --QM
Sorry dude. Didn't take any photo back then. It was before phone become smartphone like today. We only had Nokia 3310 in 2000s. 🤣
Your wife is 90 kg ? Damn
You meet the nicest people on a honda bike !
Its called Rev matching when you use the throttle right before downshifting your gears, when we know how to do it smoothly, it will make the bike run like floating.
Quasi the correct way to ride a cub when changing down gears press gear leaver and hold while matching engine speed with a blip on throttle and then let the pedal up. You use peddle as the clutch as you would on normal bike.
Excellent tip, thx! I'm learning the heel/clutch action and playing with engagement points and throttle matching. I don't worry too much about it hurting the Cub's driveline because these things are nearly bullet-proof. I'm just a mechanical perfectionist, and my abilities to shift the Cub smoothly are bugging me. ;-) The left foot placement is annoying, but I might be able to adjust to it without scrapping the heel-toe shifter... we'll see how that goes. --QM
Very true cubs just keep going. But once you master down shifts it's a much more pleasant ride as your not thrown forwards each down shift. Have fun stay safe.
@@Harlowfishcam Thx again for the tips! I'll play with that today to see if I can learn the motor memory for the downshift and throttle matching. --QM
Wow, I did not know this. I look forward to trying this with my super cub. I have always waited to almost dead stop to downshift. Very helpful information
Barry while the gear shift is depressed it’s basically a clutch lever until it’s released.
I just was reading your video is 3 years old. Great prices 👍
Going way back to 1983, In high school in San Diego, I rode a C70 Passport all over town. In today’s traffic the Honda Cub will probably get you killed.
It depends on the area and how busy (bad) traffic is for your commutes. I have been riding my Cub in Houston traffic for a few weeks now, and it does OK. As with any motorcycle (especially small-displacement bikes), you really have to be proactive and hyper-aware to avoid being tattooed by cagers. Houston is DEFINITELY not bike-friendly territory. --QM
@@QuasiMotard in Morocco, we call this kind of bikes : the killer 😂 a lot of young folks died riding it
i agree with you. with today traffic honda cub speed is not enough
Especially in Texas. There are so many huge cars here. If you live in the suburbs can be a lot better.. just not Houston or Dallas. Austin is okay but there are a lot of young drivers who are untrained.
You need to release the throttle little longer before putting gear or change the gears on these bikes. And also you need to slow the bike before lowering the gears in junctions or at traffic lights stop. You also can change the gear from 4th to neutral while at complete stop at traffic light junctions. If you wants to turn left or right without stopping, no need to change gear or lowering the gear until 2nd or 1st. The momentum of the bike is enough to take you with little bit of throttle. If you really want a bit of pick up power while turning, you just need to change to 3rd gear is enough. That's how honda cub should be ride. Another tips, you can play with the throttle while keep on pressing the gears up or down while riding, then release the gear after you release the throttle. It's fun. I used to do that always while turn the bike left or right.
Thanks for the tips! This was an early ownership video when I didn't have any practice riding the Super Cub. The shift timing and the SLOW RELEASE of the shift lever is the key to smooth shifting the Cub.
It took me a couple of days of riding the Cub to become accustomed to the slow release of the shift lever and the delayed timing for the throttle-blip (rev matching) for the downshifts. After a few hundred miles, it becomes second nature.
The USA models have a traditional shift pattern/rotation compared to other parts of the world (N-1-2-3-4, toe-up/heel-down for up shift, toe-down for down shift). Our Cub's also don't have the wrap-around shift drum that allows return to neutral (4-N-1)... we have to shift down through the stack to neutral (4-3-2-1-N). Cheers! 👍 --QM
the white vfr looks awesome in sunlight
yes with food-pegs, cargo rack, ... over here in Japan,
nice reliable bike !
get lost you racist shit.
Hi. I love when you said"too many toys"."
Honda sells a ton of "Honda Biz 125" here in Brazil. People love them as a city bike, basically the same bike as the c125A. Yamaha has his own model in this shape, the Yamaha Crypton 115, but is gone from the BR market, honda won this one. Nice video!
Greetings from the USA, and thanks for the feedback! I love the Biz 125! I have ridden those several times while visiting Brazil. I will probably buy a Biz or a PCX down there next year for our condo in Goiânia. Motorcycles and scooters are much cheaper to own and easier to park than cars... carros são tão caros de possuir e operar no Brasil! Cheers! 👍 --QM
Great bike! . If only the american market had all the asian underbone and scooter models, God u guys will go crazy with all those 125 to 250 models. And they really look great too!
I'm lucky enough to be in the age that those cubs first appear and I've ridden both the 50cc and the 90cc models.I've lived in the Philippines where it's always raining and roads are not that good then, and I found it that the automatic clutch is very convenient to use in those situations. I always start in 2nd gear when the road is wet or on a gravel{dirt} road to avoid rear tire slipping. The gear shifter shaft is serrated so you can adjust it with the front higher or lower.
Thanks for the reply! I remedied the shifter issue by rotating it one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) just a few days later: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . I really enjoy riding the Cub now... it's such an easy machine to live with. It's no wonder that Honda has sold over 100M of these bikes! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
The prices are unreal. What a difference 3 years makes.
Its so rare to ride this moped bike in america..but in my country(malaysia) its freakin everywhere
We haven't had the Cub here in the USA since 1982 (was called the Passport back then). It's great to have them here again, and the 125cc fuel-injected motor is much better than the old 90-110cc carbureted version. 👍 --QM
Beautiful
Hahaha...the way you describe the engine sound was both hilarious and spot on ..... 9:14 and 9:42. Wish my dad was as cool as you
Thx for the feedback! 👍 I have gotten better at shifting the Cub smoothly... it just takes some practice. On "normal" bikes that have a clutch, you want to move the shift lever as quickly and cleanly as possible to engage the next gear. However, on the Cub, the shift lever also controls the clutch engagement... so you want to slowly release the lever to get a clean engagement. The timing is backwards compared to all other manual shift bikes, so I'm relearning (unlearning) 40+ years of motor memory.
As for your dad, hopefully he is cool in other ways. We're all just kids at heart... being an "adult" or a parent just changes our responsibilities and commitments. I'm just an overgrown kid that works hard enough to afford purchasing his own expensive toys. 😀 --QM
If the set up is like the older CUBS, mine being the C90CUB then I find with it when changing gear then if you keep pressure on the lever this disengaged the clutch, allowing you to blip the throttle (has) on down shifts so when you release the pressure off the lever the gear change is less clunky, given the engine speed is higher. This May be the ease as you mentioned if your heel is putting pressure on the gear change lever the clutch seems to be slipping, that would explain that behaviour. Hope this helps. Safe riding. Keep rubber side down and between the ditches.
Nice bike, she is definitely a keeper. I also enjoy watching your videos I thought you very articulate and document them nicely.
Thanks for the feedback! I try to give a balanced view of the bikes that I own so that other prospective owners can make informed decisions about whether the bike might be suitable for them or not. I tend to be very critical of mechanical issues (a byproduct of my career), and I also push my bikes into roles that they probably weren't designed to handle... that's just part of the challenge for me. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Nice review. Thanks! I don't think you need to modify the shifter - just don't view it like a normal 'one down, four up' type gear lever. In Asia people rarely shift down - the little motor has enough torque to pull it's low weight in any gear anyway. You just go up to third or forth depending on road conditions and stay there until you need to stop, then you push again to go into neutral then again to go into first - and off you go again. It's a rotary shift pattern. It's not a sports bike that always needs to be in the perfect gear - any gear will do! The heel down shift can be used to change down if you're a perfectionist - just match the revs to the road speed as you mentioned in the video, but there's really no need, and millions of motorcycle taxi and delivery riders can't all be wrong.
Edit - just noticed - you have a different shift pattern. That's too bad - the original rotary pattern is great for traffic riding.
I didn't know about the reverse pattern and rotary shift drum until other viewers mentioned that. I would like the wrap-around to neutral, but definitely not the reverse pattern... too much to relearn after 40+ years of normal motorcycle riding. I have adjusted the shift yoke one spline counterclockwise (toe down) to make the heel shift more useful for me. It's so much easier to shift now, and the clutch engagement can be modulated better now. I am tempted to skip 1st gear completely because it's so short, but traffic moves so fast here... if you don't accelerate away from a stop very quickly, then you risk being hit from behind by impatient cagers. --QM
You guys talking about the rotary shift pattern ?
How does it work ? I cannot seem to wrap my head around it.
Sounds confusing.
My old super cub , was all the way down for neutral.. then four up.
That's it.
Exactly like my four wheeler quad.
@@timhudson1846 The bikes sold in Asia have the original semi-auto Supercub shift system. In practice you just keep pressing down. Click for first, then down again for second, down again for third, down again for top .... then cruise around in top until you need to stop at a junction, then down again for first ready to pull away.
In theory you can change down a gear by pressing on the heel lever, and if you release the shift lever slowly it's a smooth-ish down change, but why bother with such a torquey little motor. Just keep going around ... 1.2.3.4,N,1,2,3,4.
And if you never get into top due to heavy traffic, just stop in 3rd, and click down twice to get back to 1.
Here in Malaysia and Thailand, we have the EX5 Dream version, 100cc
The design still remains unchanged today as it was back in the 1980s
I saw a new one at the dealership back in December, very nice looking bike. I'm still thinking about getting one for riding around town and taking camping. Really nice bike. I know if you still have that bike, or if you re-geared it for more top speed, but I will tell you what I did with my little CRF100 dirt bike, to get more top speed. I went up 1 tooth on the front, and 4 teeth down on the rear. This resulted in the top speed going from 45mph to 53mph, and the bike still pulls great. Some guys who have made the CRF100 street legal, are gearing even higher, but there are diminishing returns at certain point.
Thx for the tips on the CRF100! I actually had one of the CRF110's for my son that I sold just a couple of years ago... those are great little bikes. I was a bit conflicted on the 15T front sprocket change on the Cub for the first week or so, but I'm used to it now and I don't think that I'll switch back. I thought about dropping 2-3 teeth on the rear to correct the speedometer discrepancy, but that would be getting back to near-stock gearing... so there is little point in making the change. My original intention was to calm the motor down just a bit at 50-55 mph because I was planning to take this bike on a 9000-mile trip around the USA for the 2020 Scooter Cannonball Run (more of an endurance event than top speed, so I didn't care too much about 60+ mph top-end). That event has likely been postponed this year due to COVID-19, so we'll try for 2021 or 2022 instead. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
2:40 That's love at first sight right there.
They make them in black now, so its not such feminine colors for hte guys. Personally, these are too underpowered for me as I want to be able to go on highways on occasion. If they made a Super Duper Cub 300cc, I'd buy one.
good video man... i have one ...it take a lot of training to ride it smooth ....and one's you learned it .no one can ride it lik you... practice the rev match for down shift ...and always use rear brake first then front brake
Thx for the feedback! Agreed... it's tricky to learn how to shift the Cub smoothly. It took me a few days to teach myself the new habit of moving the shift lever SLOWLY instead of quickly like all other bikes. The other trick is learning the "late throttle blip" for rev-matching on the downshifts. Most bikes need the blip before or at the same time as the gear change, but the Cub is delayed because of the lever release. The first gear downshift always needs to wait until nearly stopped... it's just never smooth for me. It was tough to reprogram my brain after 40+ years of motor-memory and habits from riding "normal" motorcycles, but I'm much smoother with the Cub now. --QM
@@QuasiMotard what you 've said is right... i have something for you ...you need to know in witch rev or speed you need to shift up .... marke that for evey gear ....than one's you want to down shift let the lever slowly ... and have a look when it get's closer ; the speed or the rpm in the indicator ; make a small blip and then get back to the lever like when you shift up ... nothing fast like motorcycle eeverthing is slow don't worry about downshift wheen almost stop the bike will no gonna stall even in 4 th gear when stoped
@@QuasiMotard another thing ... if you shift early and you feel the bike struggle to accelerate be patient and never over rev it with the throattle ... it's like putting a 100 kilogram on your shoulders and some one push you to run .... it's not good for cranck shaft.and piston
All the complaints are things that are easily fixed. In my day (1970's) we removed the heel shifters. Riding with a centrifugal clutch requires that you focus more on synchronising speed with your shifts, but it was his first ride on the bike. Steve
Absolutely! I really like the Cub, and I have learned the timing for the downshifts now, so it's much easier to ride. I also adjusted the shift lever one spline counter-clockwise to raise the heel to a more comfortable position. I've been riding it as much as possible, including a road trip to Austin. The Cub has over 1000 miles on it already! --QM
Thanks for the review! Beautiful new bike you have there! Love the styling, but the difference shifting would mess me up switching between this and my bike I think. Very helpful.
It does take a little bit of adjustment to re-learn the shifting on the Cub vs normal bikes. Shifting with the heel is the smoother way to operate the Cub because you can raise your foot slowly to re-engage the clutch. The timing is the tricky bit... the throttle is "late" to roll on (or for rev-matching). It took me a few days of playing with the timing to get it right. Now that I have learned the motor-memory, I'm able to switch between the Cub and my other bikes without any problems. --QM
Good review like you said with so many discounts though but hey at least you can treat this one nice. Wow they sound different today
I'm fascinated by the Super Cub. I'm not a motorcycle rider but I'm wanting in on the this bike.
The Cub is a superb bike for learning to ride a motorcycle. The lack of a manual clutch can help new riders concentrate more on the balancing and operation of the bike instead of feathering the clutch to prevent stalling the motor. You still need to change gears, so that motor-skill is still learned and easily augmented with a clutch on a full motorcycle later if needed. If you decide to stay with the Cub, it's a fantastic machine for commuting and light/short journeys. I tend to push my bikes into bizarre roles that they weren't designed to handle, so I even take my Cub on long road trips. Proper planning and luggage options can turn it into a do-it-all machine, as long as you don't mind traveling relatively slow. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Good vid. I love mine, just shift up with toe. Every Zer wants one because it's retro anime.
Man these are all over the Dominican Republic I got family over there and it was my first bike I learned on a 90cc shit is fast they mod them down there and have races with just Honda cubs
For the lighting I heard the us requires turn signals to be so many inches away from each other and that the aftermarket integrated tail lights are not technically street legal.
Yep, DOT requirements in the USA differ from the EU/UK specs. DOT requires a certain distance between the turn indicators, and the illuminated surface area is larger than the EU/UK specs. Auxiliary tail lights should be DOT-approved, but they aren't subject to the distance and surface area requirements if they are used in conjunction with OEM (DOT-approved) lighting. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I've watched a few of these videos now and I've noticed one comment that seems to be a reoccurring theme in all of them is how surprised the owner is at how nice the bike rides.
I think part of this is due to a rather neutral suspension. It's like baby bear's porridge; not too soft, not too hard. Makes for a very "pleasing" ride, as long as one doesn't ride too aggressively (of course, its not a sport bike, either, so its really not built to be ridden aggressively...at least not on a normal basis).
To accompany that, it also has fairly large wheels. That can help give a nice ride, too.
The larger wheel can displace the load of driving down the road much better and not transfer so much of it directly to the suspension. This means the suspension doesn't have to be built quite so stiff because the wheel itself is doing some of the work.
It's like, if you had a 10 lb. weight and you placed it on a board that was 1 sq.ft.. That board could only handle that weight in a certain way because there's only that much board to displace that load across.
If that board were 3 sq.ft., it could handle that same load better because there's more board to spread that load across.
Its the same with the wheels.
The small wheel of a scooter will transfer the load of hitting a bump or a rut more directly to the suspension than a larger wheel of the Super Cub would because the scooter wheel has less area to displace that load across.
...of course, tires can make the difference here. If the smaller wheel has huge balloon tires and the larger wheel has thin little tires on it, the ride may be equal or may even favour the smaller wheeled bike, but everything else being equal, a bike with a larger wheel will always aid in giving you a more pleasing ride.
The Cub/Super Cub has always been a nice bike. Now it seems to be "improved" just enough to deal with the modern world.
Agreed! I think it's a combination of proper spring rates and the larger wheels that really helps to smooth out the bumps compared to other "budget bikes". The quickest comparison that came to mind was my PCX150 scooters... they have a much rougher ride over the same roads than the Cub. Of course, the PCX's are heavier and have smaller diameter wheels/tires, but the difference is quite surprising. I really enjoy the Super Cub, and I already have over 2500 miles on mine so far. Cheers! 👍 --QM
Large wheel diameter makes the wheel roll over dips in the road rather than through them. This is why large wheels help; in your explanation, a wider wheel would work equally wel as a larger diameter wheel.
@@Gnerko123 No it doesn't. You misread my post.
@@DeanMk1 you talk about contact area of the tire; that is what I was referring to. At equal contact area, a larger wheel will ride better.
@@Gnerko123 No, I didn't. See, you misunderstood. I was referring to the larger wheel's ability to absorb more shock, due to its size.
Nice detailed review. Some of the differences might because of the different safety laws. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback! The ugly signals and tail light that our Cub's get in the USA is due to our DOT regulations. There are minimum requirements for indicator surface area and distance between the signal lenses that the EU/UK models don't meet... so that forces us to get the ugly "hippo ears" lighting instead of the sleek, integrated units that other markets have. The rear footpeg and passenger seat is a similar issue. Our DOT regs mandate that footpegs must be mounted on a fixed part of the bike frame and not on the swingarm (movable unit). Cheers! 👍 --QM
Just got my cub 4 days ago. Mounted the rack without an problems. Will be anxious to see how you mount the saddlebags!
Me too! 😉 I am back in town now after my hiatus, so I plan to get the Timbuk2 Tandem panniers modified to fit this coming week... hopefully. The only remaining bit for that solution is some basic hoop supports to keep the bags away from the rear shocks, fender, and wheel. That won't be anything fancy, but I will paint those supports or have them powder-coated for a cleaner look. --QM
I learn to ride motorbike on those og supercub...
Love the Cubs, the CT125 Trail 125cc and the PCX. Made in Thailand
I finally sat on a Super Cub yesterday in the showroom. I never considered my self to be a large person, but at 5'10"(ish) and approx 200#, I looked comically overlarge astride it. It was disappointing because I've had an abiding fondness for the Cub since the 1970s when they called it the Passport.
I also checked out the ADV 150 and the PCX 150 and I seemed a bit overlarge for those as well. I had my wife take photos of me astride each bike so I could assess this. I could live with either if I had to, but I don't have to, so I won't. Maybe Honda needs to bring back a mid-size scooter in the 250-300cc range.
The Rebel 500 was an acceptable fit. I'm sorta short legged and long torsoed (29"/30" inseam) so, for a cruiser, it was not too cramped in the leg nor any kind of stretch to the handlebars. The problem with the Rebel 500 is that it costs about the same as the new Royal Enfield Int650 twin, which looks and feels *exactly* like the bikes I rode as a teenager. So, next trip is to my local Royal Enfield dealer.
If you haven't gotten acquainted with the new Royal Enfield models it a worthwhile endeavor. I think there's a dealer in Katy.
I used to live in League City over towards the Kemah side of town.
I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback! The Cub is a small bike for sure. I like some of the new R-E bikes, and I've been looking hard at the Bullet Trials 500... that's a really cool retro bike! 😉👍 --QM
Loved the bike, one more to add to my list. Thank god i don't live there. I'd be buying bikes more often than I earn.
Thanks for the feedback! I agree... that place is dangerous for my wallet! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
cool cool! I've had 5 cubs in Japan. They're incredible for the gas milage! Go save your gas money!
Japan has such great small bikes (and cars, too). It's too bad that we can't get a lot of the EU and Asian market selection of motorcycles here in the USA. The new Super Cub is returning impressive fuel mileage so far... over 140+ mpg in town and ~120 mpg on the highway (wide-open throttle most of the time). --QM
Thats nothing man..there are 110cc bikes in india which give you 250+mpg😉😉😉
Great video - you have helped me place my deposit on a blue one tomorrow. Thanks!
Thx for the feedback! I'll be posting several more videos of the Cub over the weekend, so stay tuned! --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you. if you see any good mods without wrecking the look of the bike I'd appreciate it. I see a blue matching rack that others have posted but can't see it listed under Honda. Maybe just for Japan/Thailand. I've subscribed!
@@K22MDL EXACTLY! I was so annoyed when I picked up my rack today and it's CHROME... where is the matching blue that Honda shows in all of their literature?!!! Oh well... I'm going to use it and it will be covered up with panniers most of the time anyway. --QM
@@QuasiMotard I guess but I will hold out for a blue one. I think they are ABS anyway?
@@K22MDL I'm not sure about the ABS options on that side of the pond. I believe that all of the NA units are ABS-only, so maybe that's why we only get the blue? We can't get any other color here for now. --QM
thats a very nice neighborhood you live in!!!
Thx for the feedback! It's a nice neighborhood, but the crime is starting to creep into our area... lots of thefts and break-ins lately. We're hoping to move to a more rural area someday soon. Cheers! --QM
@@QuasiMotard u shud be here were i live.40 years.crime crime crime.yet thats all of the UK.
Since you own both...
If you could only have one..
Which one ?
I'm going nuts trying to decide.
I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get... Some of us are on a budget. Actually, for me, it adds to the fun.
every thinfk comes to he who waits.
Congratulations! Enjoy that beautiful machine.
The footpeg holes need to be drilled and tapped. The reason for the different turn-signals than the Euro/other versions is that there was not enough separation between the signals to comply with USDOT regulations. They needed to be farther apart.
Great info, thx! I don't think I'll ever need to put the pegs on this one, but the luggage rack is already on the way. The photos online cheat, though... the rack is chrome and not painted blue to match the bike... oh, well. As for the signals, I wasn't surprised to see the larger/wider indicators here... we always get the ugly stick because of DOT regulations. I will probably replace the rear light assembly with the euro unit... it's just cleaner and fits the bike's aesthetic better. --QM
Small displacement bikes are very popular in southeast asia
Most of the world outside of the USA has a very rich assortment of small-displacement bikes. We don't get many here because the sales are typically too low for the manufacturers to risk importing them and then not be able to sell them at a profit. We saw the end of fun, small-displacement machines back in the early 1980's, and they didn't return until Honda introduced the Grom (MSX-125) back in 2014. Until then, our "entry-level" bikes started at 225-250 cc's, and they usually sold very slowly/poorly here in the USA. I hope this signals a resurgence of "interesting" small bikes in the USA again, but it's really up to the buyers/riders to make that happen. Too many people here are stuck in the "bigger is better" and go-fast mentality to appreciate the small bikes. We have large cities and vast distances to cover by highway here in Texas, so it's even harder for most people to consider a motorcycle that can't travel at 75+ mph all day long. We can just hope and wait to see if other manufacturers bring some of their small bikes to this side of the pond. 👍😉 --QM
Your so lucky to live in a country where vehicles are cheap
i was thinking the same thing! hahaha
@@fredsue317 thats not very nice
Modded Tom youre probly talking to a 10 yr old asian boy
It's 325,000 in the Philippines, that's about $6,300.
@actnowone Now that Brexit is done things will get cheaper.
it also helps to hold the shift lever down during upshifts and wait for the revs to match before releasing it. And the downshifts is just a matter of getting used to it, I usually just give it a bit of gas. got a 1971/1972 Honda C50h
Thx for the feedback! I think I'm finally adjusting my timing to match the Cub's expectations better now... about 300 miles down now. This morning I adjusted my shift lever one spline counter-clockwise to raise the heel and lower the toe. It made a HUGE difference for me in general foot comfort and also in shift-ability. The heel-shift actually works for me now, and the down shifts are easier with the toe lower down. --QM
QuasiMotard Glad to hear, Semi-automatic can be so much fun when you're used to it. mine actually never had a heel-toe shifter since it is the Dutch version which came with bicycle cranks and a normal shift lever
Hello again. I have no idea what day you were at that dealership, however when I looked? Some of those deals were NO WHERE TO BE FOUND...
The Cub video was made in March 2019. They don't have the specials advertised on the website very often... not sure why they don't update that content. I have several other videos of their showroom that I haven't posted because a lot of time elapsed and those bikes are probably long gone now. Whenever we end our COVID-19 lock down here in Houston and "non-essential" businesses reopen, I'll head back over there to make a fresh video... probably to pick up another bike! 😉👍 --QM
I own a 2018 Yamaha Star Venture Trans Continental...but with gas in Canada heading towards $6.00 per gallon....I am considering one for blowing around town, and going to the lake on the county roads. They are not being imported into Canada yet...but when they do...I'll be on one! Great vid.
Thanks for the feedback! The little Super Cubs are great bikes... as reliable as hammers, extremely efficient, and stupid-simple to operate. If I keep the speeds under 50 MPH (80 km/h), then my Cub returns ~135 US mpg (1.742 L/100km, or 57.3944 km/L). We recently made a 2100-mile road trip on our Super Cubs, and my average fuel economy was 114 US mpg!
Total miles traveled: 2088
Total fuel consumed: 17.881 US gallons
Total fuel expenses: $35.58 USD
Average fuel economy: 114.2 MPG
Highest fuel economy: 134.6 MPG
Lowest fuel economy: 100.5 MPG
You can review a PDF of the spreadsheet in my public Google Drive folder here: drive.google.com/file/d/1-nMN52nMGwQHk0-oqd60RA-8-GImI3iP/view?usp=sharing . Cheers! 👍
@@QuasiMotard You know...lol, you're killing me with that MPG! I will get one, as soon as they bring them in, if they do at all. If so...there will be another out there! Thanks for all the info! Cheers and happy, safe, rides!
I had a Harley one time with a toe heel shifter and I loved it. Keeps your boots from getting messed up on the toe. But I understand your situation. Just doesn't quite fit you.🇨🇱
Actually, the shifter problem was remedied a few days later by rotating the lever one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) so I could reach it better: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . The factory position didn't work for me because I couldn't rest my heel near the shifter without slightly disengaging the clutch, but I also couldn't press it fully down to complete the shift without contorting my leg out of position. Rotating the shifter fixed the problem for me! 👍 --QM
Just subbed. Sweet little ride. I like these. I have been looking for a replacement for my nhx110
Thx for the feedback and the sub! I think you'll like the Super Cub. It is definitely more engaging to ride than a scooter. You would lose some of the convenience factors of the Elite 110 (e.g. under-seat storage, twist-and-go , and the flat floorboard/footwell), but you gain so much more character and ride quality. Don't get me wrong... I love scooters, and I own 4 right now, but the Cub beats all of them in the fun factor. Just add the luggage rack to give some cargo capacity and you're set. Another huge bonus of the Cub is the fuel economy... so far, mine is averaging 136.6 mpg and the last two fill-ups have been over 142 mpg (motor just out of break-in period with ~450 miles).
Stay tuned for more Cub ride videos. I am packing my camping gear and headed up to Austin, TX for the MotoGP races at COTA this weekend. I'll be motocamping for 3-4 days and recording a bunch of video of the ride and the event. Cheers! --QM
I rode a C70 for many years.. It was identical to this one. You do not downshift with this bike. You wait until you stop and hit the gears down a couple of times when you stop. even 3rd gear can work at slow speeds. you do not need the heel shifter. just use the toe..... Man, I want this bike... I really want them to bring back the C70 "PASSPORT"
I have finally figured out the timing for the downshifts and throttle blips (for the most part, anyway). It also helped to rotate the shifter one spline counterclockwise (toe downward, heel upward)... this helped me immensely and now I can actually use the heel shifter for smoother upshifts.
Another interesting note about the USA Cub vs some other markets... our shift pattern is N-1-2-3-4 in order, but EU models can wrap around back to N while stopped (N-1-2-3-4-N-1-2...). That would make it easy to coast down to a stop and then click straight back to neutral. Apparently, the Asian markets have a reverse shift pattern (press down on toe to shift up)? --QM
@@QuasiMotard Yeah, my 1991 cdi (Malaysia) is n 1 2 3 4 n 1.. on the toe. My friend told me the only downside to his new cub was the aggressive down shifts so I let him ride on the back of mine to help him feel it out...glad to hear you've got the timing sorted. Just gotta feel it out really.
cant wait until this happens again!
It looks like a blast to ride and 80 miles or so on a gallon of gas makes it even more enjoyable.
The Cub is certainly a lot of fun to ride... it's no wonder that Honda has sold over 100M of these bikes over the last 60 years. The fuel economy on my bike with mixed surface streets and highway access roads averages ~140 MPG. Even when I run wide-open throttle on the highway, it averages about 119 MPG... that's crazy efficient! The lowest figure that I've observed so far was 101 MPG when running wide-open against 20+ mph headwinds for a full tank of fuel. You can track my mileage stats on Fuelly if you're interested: www.fuelly.com/driver/quasimotard . Cheers! 👍 --QM
Foot pegs that fit into a swinging arm? Now that could be an exercise bike for the pillion rider.
Do you know if there is any deals on the ADV 150 for $2-$3 grand? From my research it’s a brand new category in the US. But $4,200 sticker is very steep for me. I keep going back and forth between the ADV 150 and the Ruckus. Even though the Ruckus is more in my price range. But I also max out the weight limit on the Ruckus as well. Which I need to fix. Any ideas? I had a Honda passport back in the 90’s as a kid and it was so amazing! So it’s been a few years since I’ve owned a motorized bike. No I do not have my motorcycle license either.
That's not likely to happen for a while because the ADV150 is a new release... the dealer's invoice price on it is probably over $3500. You might be able to snag one in another year or two for that price from a previous owner or maybe a dealer that's ready to move old inventory. If you are at (or over) the weight limit for the Ruckus, then you shouldn't get one... trust me. Their 50cc motor is very limited on power and you probably need a scooter with a larger motor. If you like the utilitarian look of the Ruckus, then you might want to look at the Yamaha Zuma 125 instead... you can usually find those used for under $2500, and new ones are $3599 MSRP ( www.yamahamotorsports.com/scooter/models/zuma-125 ). Cheers! 👍 --QM
QuasiMotard thank you for your reply! I really like the Smax! Thanks!
Ahhh… so this is where all started!!!
Awesome bike! Great for city riding
When I first saw it, I thought it was ugly without real spoked wheels, but it's so ugly it's kind of cool.
Really? I like the machined finish on the alloy wheels... it's a nice touch on such a "budget" bike. However, I really hope that the new Super Cub is successful enough in the USA that Honda decides to bring back the Trail 110 as a new 125 based on this same design... spoked wheels, maybe another 1" of suspension travel, and the classic auxiliary fuel tank. Man, that would be a hoot with the new 125cc FI motor. --QM
I use to own one of this n the trick for down shifting is accelerate a little bit,that will make it smoother,my first bike in the 80 s n I couldn’t destroyed it,mother bought it for the house in a Caribbean island it was my bro sister aunt uncle family friends every body rode it al day very day but not me been the youngest until finally every one left n it was only mine muajajajaja muajajajajaj mine amazing simple technology
I finally learned the coordination and late throttle-blip for the downshifts after a few days of riding the Cub. I rotated the shift lever counter-clockwise (down on the toe, up on the heel) one spline to make it easier for me to use. It's a great bike, and I'm really enjoying it. I have about 3000 miles the clock now and steadily climbing. Cheers! 👍 --QM
I bet that's a fun little bike to ride. I had a C90 back in 1968, it was my second bike, first was a Cushman Eagle in jr high and high school. The C90 was fun but needed a little bit more power, a 125 would be a lot better. A little bike is a nice break from my normal GL1800.
Exactly! They are a great change of pace to ride... very refreshing. The C125 has just enough power to get around while still keeping that small bike feeling. I own lots of bikes... everything from scooters to hyper-sports, and I find that the small bikes are such a blast to ride. I've owned many full-dress and sport-touring bikes over the years (89 bikes and counting) and those rolling Lazy-Boy recliners are great out on the open road. Unfortunately, I spend most of my 45K+/year moto miles doing the daily grind just commuting in traffic. Those big machines are a serious PITA to handle in stop-and-go traffic while sitting still in Houston's sweltering heat. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Wow sorry did not know this is a 2019. Congrats nice beautiful ride !
No worries, thx for the feedback! It's a fun bike for sure. Many people think that it's too expensive for what it is (or for what you get), and I don't disagree... it's a little spendy. However, I really liked it since I saw the teaser bikes in the EU motorcycle shows over the past few years, and I knew that I wanted one as soon as they were released in the USA. I don't mind paying a few hundred extra dollars for the nostalgia! 👍😉 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Who is the reckless guy with the balls of steel without gloves and gear in this video?
@@worldhello1234 Um... guilty as charged. I ride with gloves, jacket, helmet, and motorcycle boots/shoes 99% of the time. Occasionally, I'll get lazy or complacent when I'm just riding to the corner market or around the neighborhood (as in this video). It's a bad idea, for sure. 👍 --QM
Years ago I had a Honda 75 loved it wish I had kept it
Goddam, to be able to buy a brand new vfr800 for 9k rn would be an absolute steal!
I love this little bike!...ty for the review!...you said first gear was down & what about the other gears, is second, third, fourth shift up????? I don't know that is why i am asking, thank you
The Cub's transmission is different than other bikes. The shift pattern is N-1-2-3-4, so neutral is at the bottom. The clutch is centrifugal (engages above idle) and the shift lever disengages it for shifts when you move the lever up or down. It took me a few days to learn the timing and how to move the lever slowly for smooth shifts, but I think I've got it down now. I did adjust the shift lever to make it more comfortable for my use. --QM
Wow crazy deals
Right?!!! That place is dangerous for my wallet. I want one of everything in there, and maybe two just to have a choice of colors. 🤣 --QM
Congrats on your new toy look great enjoy and be safe
Thx for the feedback and the wishes! My son and I have been waiting for the Cub to arrive for a long time. We started drooling over it 3-4 years ago while watching videos of the European motorcycle shows. I guess I'm just a nerd/geek because I love small bikes and scooters... we have 5 scooters, plus the Super Cub (not quite a scooter). For those motorcyclists out there that sneer at scooters... DON'T KNOCK IT UNTIL YOU TRY IT! They are a blast to ride... just twist and go, and not so fast that you miss the world as it passes by your helmet visor. It's so nice just to relax and enjoy the ride (and scenery) sometimes! --QM
Very cool bike, a modern take on a classic
Thx for the feedback! I really like the styling, and everyone else that I meet EVERY time I ride it seems to have the same opinion. It starts conversations everywhere... all of the nostalgia and memories come flooding back for so many people. They are compelled to come over and strike up a conversation, and to tell me about one that they had back in the 60's or 70's. It's a lot of fun. --QM
I sold my Honda wave because of the abrupt down shift, I thought it was shocking and unsafe for my daughter to ride, she was new to motorcycling. It was a pity since the build quality was top notch.
I remedied the shifter problem a few days later by rotating the lever one spline counter-clockwise (toe-down, heel-up) so I could reach it better: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html . The factory position didn't work for me because I couldn't rest my heel near the shifter without slightly disengaging the clutch, but I also couldn't press it fully down to complete the shift without contorting my leg out of position. Releasing the shift lever smoothly is the trick to smooth shifts on these bikes. Rotating the shifter and being able to articulate my ankle more smoothly fixed both problems for me! 👍 --QM
I started watching this to see what these might cost! I was encouraged when you showed the prices on the larger bikes, but guess what? When the super cub comes up,not a price in sight! It's a secret,I guess!
I thought that I had mentioned the price in the video somewhere, but I may have missed that bit. I paid full list price because it was a new model and the waiting list was 10+ deep behind me... no haggling on price in those cases. My total OTD price was $4173.82 ($3799 + taxes and fees), and then I added the 5-year extended warranty a few days later for another few hundred dollars. Cheers! --QM
@@QuasiMotard thanks! :)
You can remove and re-position the shifter to fix your problem.
Yes, sir! That's what I did just a few rides later. The heel portion was too high to rest my foot on the peg comfortably, but it was too low to activate a shift. I rotated the shifter one spline counter-clockwise (heel up, toe down) and it is much better now: ua-cam.com/video/hi24CwhOGLU/v-deo.html --QM
Love your new motorcycle. The Super Cub is so beautiful.
(Tip: wear gloves when riding for safety!)
Thx for the feedback! I agree about the issue of riding without gloves. I almost never ride without the necessary gear... helmet, jacket,, gloves and proper boots/shoes. Sometimes (like this occasion) I will ride around my neighborhood area to make quick/local trips without fully gearing up. It's a calculated risk, for sure. If I'm going more than a mile away or on faster streets, then I always wear full gear. That delves into the ATGATT discussion (all the gear all the time)... "dress for the slide, not for the ride". I'm more of a MOTGATT (most of the gear all the time) kind of guy. I don't usually wear armored pants because of the heat/humidity in Houston, but I will go full ATGATT when I take road trips or ADV rides. The armor on the legs can be a real skin saver and they take impact from road debris better than jeans. --QM
Hmmm is it worth flying from Seattle to Texas to pick up a VFR800 or basically any of the bikes you showed? Maybe! Great video thanks!
If you're really interested, I'm sure they can arrange shipping. The price would still be a decent deal, even with ~$800 shipping. --QM
Since you own both...
If you could only have one..
Which one ?
I'm going nuts trying to decide.
Its a little like my 100cc Sym symba. The heel toe shifter on mine can be unclamped, slide off the spline and go on again at a different angle.. I use heel-heel shift anyway, as going down to 1st and 2nd is also a very low speed thing..It will do 80kmh and as the bike is so light, a cross wind will affect it too much at higher speed...I would be very sad if I didn't have a side stand or kick starter..Only ever had one major problem, The rubber connecting the carb to the air cleaner developed cracks that were hard to see. It let in air and rain. These cub designs are all very similar but I hate to see them leaving out things that worked well.
Agreed! The lack of a side stand for the USA market was a major oversight, IMHO. I have added the side stand to my bike and it really improves the usability: ua-cam.com/video/SVoEJhqE68A/v-deo.html . The only thing that we're missing here is the ignition interlock safety switch that kills the ignition if the side stand is down and the bike is in gear. I have searched for the part, but Honda doesn't want to make it available for the USA market. My bike doesn't appear to have the plug for the wiring harness, so maybe that's the reason? Otherwise, I really like having the side stand for convenience and stability (e.g. parking on soft or uneven surfaces). 👍 --QM
One question do you leave all the warning stickers on your new bikes ?? Man they put a lot of them everywhere
That's a good question... it really depends on how obnoxious they are. If they offend my OCD sensibilities, then I de-badge the entire bike... no labels, stickers, logos, graphics... nothing... I strip all of 'em. I'll leave the manufacturer emblems and the swingarm labels (e.g. chain info, tire pressure labels) and nothing else. I de-badged my Honda CB500X for the same reason... it was too visually-busy, and I didn't like the big red "X" logos along the side cowls. Nothing a heat gun and some "Goo Gone" can't fix! --QM
Lawyers and lawsuits.
The Trail Unit one uses a Conventional Key, I had rather have the Old Key way of starting bike...
Agreed! The smart key is nice around town, but I've had it lose sync with the bike twice and leave me unable to start the bike for a while. The Trail 125 (CT125) that I just purchased uses a standard key, which is great for off-road conditions: ua-cam.com/video/XFs0md7YUbU/v-deo.html . 👍 --QM
Magnifico modelo de Honda cuándo llegará a Colombia felicitaciones a la marca HONDA
Add a rectangular carry box with a lid that opens forward and you can have 60 litres of storage and a sorting area. Saving hundreds of dollars driving to the corner store in the car.
I haven't added any storage to the Cub yet, but I do take my other scooters (Honda PCX150 and Yamaha C3) for quick shopping trips almost daily. They are a great, economical way to take short trips, and you can park just about anywhere! 👍 --QM
Boy it sounds so good
Yeah, it has a really good exhaust note for a 125, IMHO. The video doesn't do it justice because I have to normalize the audio a little bit to remove wind noise and some low-frequency rumble. That rumble filter also removes some of the lower exhaust note. It's such a fun little bike to ride... I'm really enjoying it. Cheers! 👍 --QM
See ya on loop 610 on that ride. Kidding. Really cool.
Haha... NOT! I got a good chuckle out of that one. However, I do run the I-10 feeder roads and do the occasional on-and-off to skip the traffic lights. It does surprisingly well for a 125, but momentum is definitely the game there... avoid slowing because it takes a while to build speed again. --QM
Lol! I was thinking Grand Parkway, aka, Hwy 99.
@@AgFish86Zip90 Yeah, I'll have to think about that one. If I could only figure out how to lasso a fast-moving 18-wheeler and simultaneously drop the Cub into neutral... it could work... I've seen it done in a cartoon before. 🤣 You can cook 85+ mph on Hwy 99 and still nearly be run over by some cagers out there. --QM
should blip the throttle a bit during the down shift like in between after pressing and releasing the gear lever. during up shift put your heel on the peg and hit the lever with the ball of your foot and the opposite for downshift (ball of the foot on the peg and hit the lever with your heel)
also you can put your left foot sideways on the peg because this bike is japanese and people there have small feet
I've gotten better at shifting the Cub now... see some of my more recent ride videos. The timing is part of the trick, but readjusting the heel-toe shifter to sit higher in the back (lower in the front) was the real key for me. The factory position just didn't work for me at all, but now it's perfect. It makes all the difference in smooth clutch engagement between shifts. --QM
@@QuasiMotard yeah its feels pretty smooth when you do it just right. its a pity they never made a five speed version