I am very impressed by French engineers, they are developing high quality air, sea and land equipment....and this equipment is interoperable, it's just impressive.
Greece will have 4 of these beauties! And will once again show turkey its true borders, which are written in the threaty of lousanne! And not as their Bullshit Propaganda says like mavi vatan! We will show you what is yours, turks! 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@@tsifty1 These ships will be totally useless for two reasons. 1. Not enough qualified crew members. (I suggest you search and see what's going on with the Hellenic Navy these days and the hundreds of good people resigning and getting jobs elsewhere,) and 2. The present Greek government is a bunch of cowards and traitors that will never use the ships against Turkey. They will surrender the Aegean without firing a shot. The ONLY reason Greece is buying the Belharra frigates, the Rafale and F-35 jets is ΜΙΖΕΣ and nothing more...
France's real power is its arms industry which is capable of building all kinds of equipment from transport vehicles to nuclear deterrence, with everything in between (ships, planes, missiles, tanks, etc.). ) .And this, in total independence. Which maintains a certain respect from the other great powers.
You missed one key functionality: its battle management is virtualized (like for the Rafale). It means that this frigate will be updated continuously and not only during the MLUs.
France has proven its ability to have a second to none world class navy (Marine). Its only nuke aircraft carrier CDG is a fine example of a hi-tech home grown carrier with French made Rafale multi role jets, that no other Western European power can project (England’s carriers are old style floating fuel tankers with largely U.S. made F-35’s). However, France only has 1 nuke carrier, which means that when the CDG is undergoing repairs or replacing its nuke fuel rods every few years, France has 0 nuke carriers at sea. If France really wants to project itself as a premier navy, it needs at least 3 nuke carriers in existence. Expensive no doubt but global power projection isn’t cheap. It’s a long term investment in France’s global security.
3 Nuke carriers is way too much for France, it's not only the building and upkeep it is also the man power to use them, then you also need the carrier task group, tankers , submarine, air defense frigates, asw ... Look at the UK they have two and yet can't fully wing them, they have no tanker to escort them they need NATO escort ... I think Europe needs a few carrier, but for this they need to get rid of all those monarchies that keep the people divided since centuries ...
Oui un PA avec son groupe aérien, un autre pour l'écolage, et le troisième en entretien. Soit 4 Flottilles de Rafale au lieu de trois, 4 à 6 Hawkeye au lieu de 3. La différence n' est pas énorme. Mais avec Macron et ses sbires qui pillent le pays et distribuent nos armes...
@JULIENSELLIER Royal Navy has no tanker? You mean apart from RFA Tideforce, RFA Tiderace, RFA Tidesurge, and RFA Tidespring. Four tankers designed and built specifically for carrier operations.
@@stephennelmes4557 True, the RN has 4 big modern tankers but Julien's point is still valid, he just chose a particularly inaccurate thing to falsely highlight to make his point. He is right though that deploying a carrier group involves far more than just building the carrier itself and the UK is demonstrating that. Claiming a UK lack of tankers was absurd and maybe nothing about the UK's experience is a good example because the UK is building back a carrier capability again after totally losing it for a while so citing lack of planes for instance is probably also not really fair to the RN because we (I'm a Brit) are in the process of having to build up those numbers from scratch after the Harriers were decommissioned. Even with the T45 power upgrades we can still pull together 2 x ASW and 2 x AAW deployable frigates and once submarine drydocking issues are resolved Astute availability should improve so the biggest criticism/concern regarding UK carrier capability right now would probably be issues with solid stores. With build of the planned 3 new FSS ships not even started yet that leaves us reliant on just Fort Victoria (and that beset with crew shortages and RFA industrial action right now) which doesn't bode well for even a single carrier group always deployable let alone the option to have both at sea (and both properly escorted and provisioned). Ultimately I hope the UK will build up to full carrier capability where it is always able to deploy a single carrier group - provided some government decision doesn't derail the whole project - but right now we are at the stage of demonstrating quite well the scope of the effort required to build a deployable carrier capability.
@@julianfp1952 The real problem for Western navies and armies is that they serve as adjustment values in the budgetary policies of almost all countries, we order because we need 10 frigates but since times are difficult we will only receive 5 because the budget has been used elsewhere. And this is true almost everywhere.😢😢
I'm french and I can tell you Greece is the country we like the most in Europe, because they understand how important it is to boost European defense and not rely completely on the US.
French planes ( civilian or military) ships and submarimes, trains, military véhicules..are the most technologicaly advanced and reliable in the world.
The only problem is that we don't have the capacity (or the ambition) to produce large quantities of them which, even with our technologies, will lack in a war
No, they are least reliable and they have very bad reputation in the asia - pacific region for not making naval ships. Malaysian corvettes for example :)
The Greek version has 32 VLS and two Triple torpedo tubes , 8 exocet air to surface missiles, 2x20 mm narwhal guns and RIM 116 Airframe 21 short range missiles and seems to be n talk to adding the Mdca cruise missile to the ship. That version is kind of the minimum for the fleet. The French will have only the two first Units with 16 VLS and the 3 others with 32 VLS
Well, they use MDCN, so… it is like they build a missile wall in the Agean sea. They can set frigates fully anti-air, but not sure the anti-air load is so different of the French one. Though, they can strike beyond 1000 km, which is nice
Fun fact besides the Greek fdi double firepower in comparison to the french edition. The Greek's will attach cruise missiles on those ships aka scalp naval.
Probably Greece will buy 4 FDI. The first two of them will be in French mode (16 aster cells) and the third wih 32 cells plus RAM system. The Fourth one (under negotiations) will probably be like the first two equipped with Sylver 70 allowing it to carry the SCALP NAVAL Missile. If France allow the FDI to carry the SCALP missile then the first two will also carry the Scalp missile (plus RAM system), otherwise another 16 aster cells will be added (plus RAM). In my opinion Greece needs Sylver 70 launcher in 2 FDis and more Scalp Naval missiles could be lauched from submarines or from land . Thats all folks
sure that's their tier 1 frigate so they need them on steroids while France can rely also on class Horizon and Fremm with 32 Aster 30 and 16 Aster 15 like the "Chevalier Paul" frigate.
Only the first one is built in France (because it was initially for France before being reassigned to Greece during the negotiation). The rest will be built in Greece.
@@edouardmontfort7816 no mate. They are all being built in France. Only some modules are made in Greece which are not super high tech. All the electronics, and most of the complexed mechanical parts are made in France. And of course the final assembly of them.
It's simply the only country after the US to have a full autonomous military industry (Yes even Russia doesn't, Russia is also a customer of France for anything related to optical devices)
@@TelManothHexperax It wouldn't be an issue if they quad packed either CAMM or ESSM, but as far as I'm aware the French navy doesn't have these weapons.
@@Cravendale98 I think that making smaller frigates, very advanced tenologically in particular on detection and a good path for Europe. the big frigates are becoming so expensive and each time their number is doubled and the unit cost explodes, we concentrate them on a strike group around the aircraft carrier but there are not enough of them to do surveillance. Now for almost the same shot 16 missiles instead of 32 it's a real shame to limit yourself like this for very little savings
Greece needs extra armament because that is the only tier 1 frigate they will have. France has Fremm and Horizon class frigates as well. FDI is there to replace the La Fayette frigates, which are less armed than FDI.
The front design is from Ancient Greek warships, also used in the famous Averoff battleship during the early part of the 20th Century! Greece is getting 4 of them, 3 the next 2 years! 🇫🇷🇬🇷🇫🇷🇬🇷
It's funny how french frigates always have lower amount of weapons on the same ship compared to the version that goes to the other EU nations. It happened to the fregates built in cooperation with Italy. And now again with Greece despite both versions being built in France this time. I guess the French Navy is like "No, we don't need too many weapons please".
It's funny how the french carrier strike group comes with much more power : 30 Rafales, that can be put in the air with a 10 tones payload (including nuclear missiles), because the carrier has a catapult... On the Italian side, after modernization and removal of good old Harriers, we'll be talking about 10 F35 with a payload of 1,4 tone in the stealth configuration... Conclusion 🇫🇷 300 tones payload vs 🇮🇹 14 tones (if Trump doesn't remove you from the cloud). So yeah, Italy can put more guns on the frigates !
I so hope Norway buys this or the British type 26 over the American constellation class, but I feare we won't. I hope France is flexible enough to ensure that Norwegian weapon systems and fire controll etc can be implemented. Thus maby, just maby this beuty can be our next frigate.
This video presented nothing of this frigate's capabilities. EDIT: the Greek Navy will probably be called in the near future to present Belharra's *true* capabilities to one of Greece's neighbouring countries should the latter decide to materialize its threats.
@AB-gi3qy Figure this as an opponent you launch a strike of 16 combat planes you sink the frigate but lost 10/12 aircrafts as she defends herself and perhaps your own carrier (excocet scalp or torpedos) . I mean it would quite a deterrent as such. And she wouldn't be alone.Even they couldn't all effective 16 missiles are a large threat especially againt helicopter , survellance aircraft and carrier based planes. And oto melara 76 qF could be qite a thing against cruise/anti ships missiles. And this navy has also icbm submarines. To protect wkoe countries
A flared bow keeps the fore deck dryer but is subject to greater pitching movement. The inverted bow works the other way prioritizing platform stability in a seaway but with a wetter foredeck .
@arno_nuehm_1 "Why is the inverted bow" The purpose and shape are totally different from those around 1880 At the time, they were supposed to be fast, maneuvrable and capable of sinking an adversary ship by ramming into it (like the Romans and Greeks used to). Now the shape is different with a large bulb under the water to host sensors and also to improve the water flow and ship stability
Nobody has criticized the "wave piercer" Australian bow design when it came out. I suspect the rationale for the FDI bow design is similar to that of the wave piercer.
It's a very beautiful and technological boat. It is certainly very effective and formidable in many missions. But it's a shame that all of this can be destroyed with a simple saturating attack of a dozen drones at $50,000 each. How does it defend itself against drones? Does it have a rapid and economical fire system to take down this type of machine?
Obviously it's equipped with electronic warfare against drones. You won't teach hundreds of engineers and military experts what is the threat behind your keyboard...
Facts: That bow design doesn't give you an improved seakeeping and stability. But yes for some may be a good aesthetic. Also it s nothing to do with resistance, it only gives you a dripping wet bow like designers girl friends.. yeah. So you got the message.
We saw the demonstration of forces and the capabilities of the French Frigates against missiles and drones in the Red Sea. If it were Russian frigates it would be like the Black Sea...
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It's funny how the French built them but it's the Greeks who optimized them, specifically demanding the addition of the RAM launcher and the 32 SYLVER launchers for Aster missiles, as shown in 02:24.
A corvette has limited anti-air and anti-surface capabilities. This beauty has area AA defence capabilities and extended anti-surface capacity, including land-attack. The most important though, this ship will be a force coordinator for a number of naval, air and land forces. That's the answer to your dilemma.
Boy Corvettes are 3000 tones and above this and light armed with few capabilities on defence, attack and electronics. Fdi has everything and the Greek version is on steroids. With plus 16 Aster 30(32 in total) ,Cruise missiles and Ram block 2b with 21 cells surface to air missiles, 2 Nexter Narwhal, 8 exocet missiles and the 76mm Oto melara
No more and no less what the Italians already did with their Thaon di Revel Class. Light frigates heavily armed. A concept already put on the sea by Italians.
The french frigate is more advanced on digital integration, AI driven decision support, cybersecurity standards... Since the beginning it was designed and announced as the "digital frigate". No surprise.
@@edouardmontfort7816 Saying that a ship is better than another looking it just visually, mean not knowing anything regarding ships. And you just proven me that.
Why are you even comparing to a type 26??? Type 26 sits between a french/italian FREMM and a type 45 destroyer. The FDI is a medium support frigate. It's not limited to coastal operations. And it's not slower.
U're right, wherever Islam goes, chaos, mayhem, overpopulated jails, knive attacks, drug dealing, insults, all this in a name of their f'king religion etc... Parasite?
Oh no the USA is ahead of woke stuff... even their Boyz are transgender now... an army with two moms even in the bristish army is the same, there is no such thing in france. From a proud french 🇨🇵 POWER😎🫵👊👊
@@stevesmitherman2981 don't be so confident Brown tang 😁 amiral suffren also called "amiral satan" sink many many british yellow teeth ships and nelson was inspired by this guy and remember that england was the first french colony by the william the french conqueror, so as a french i am your Master... now send a nude of your mo.... 🥒 🍑 🤣🤣🇨🇵🧀🍷
Si les français n'avaient pas aidé les insurgents américains,ta bêtise n'aurait jamais pu imaginer l'immense drapeau blanc qui te sert de litère.IGNARE! Typiquement américain d'être aussi con!Que ce soit en histoire,en géopolitique ou toute autre matière!
Thr 76mm shown firing is the 86 rounds per minute very old normal Compatto gun, apparently the machine gun like 130 rounds per minute variant of the SuperRapido is a French exclusive "mod"
@@EthanWright-d4u the french know how to build ships, unlike the american with there useless and failed ships lcs, zumwalt, etc... they even buy europeean ships for their constellation class... bcoz the USA make CRAP. Your jealousy is RIDICULOUS like your ships😂😂😂
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I am very impressed by French engineers, they are developing high quality air, sea and land equipment....and this equipment is interoperable, it's just impressive.
france is the 2nd weapon supplier in the world and the Rafale has even managed to outsell the F35 multiple years
Damn. That ship looks beautiful. From Rafale Fighter Jets to FREMM and now this. Im in Love with France’s military hardwares design❤
Thanks to Dassault Systems
Destroy ennemy, OK, but doing it with class is very important.
@@guzt3680 Fun fact. Lots of Greeks find it appalling but don't have any established data to hate it. Isn't that absurd?
Greece will have 4 of these beauties! And will once again show turkey its true borders, which are written in the threaty of lousanne! And not as their Bullshit Propaganda says like mavi vatan! We will show you what is yours, turks! 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
That will ONLY happen when Greece has a TRUE patriotic government and I don't see that happening any time soon...
@@tomlee7956which part you doubt? The fact they are coming 4 of these babies or the fact that we have been holding at bay the Muslims?
@@tsifty1 These ships will be totally useless for two reasons. 1. Not enough qualified crew members. (I suggest you search and see what's going on with the Hellenic Navy these days and the hundreds of good people resigning and getting jobs elsewhere,) and 2. The present Greek government is a bunch of cowards and traitors that will never use the ships against Turkey. They will surrender the Aegean without firing a shot. The ONLY reason Greece is buying the Belharra frigates, the Rafale and F-35 jets is ΜΙΖΕΣ and nothing more...
@@tsifty1 ma non siete alleati nella NATO? andateci piano perchè i musulmani di Ankara vi fanno a fettine, non siete assolutamente alla loro altezza.
@@tomlee7956 Totally agree!
France's real power is its arms industry which is capable of building all kinds of equipment from transport vehicles to nuclear deterrence, with everything in between (ships, planes, missiles, tanks, etc.). ) .And this, in total independence. Which maintains a certain respect from the other great powers.
But who will build them ?
The immigrants 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@smckay6438
you wasted time writing this kind of bullshit, it wasn't worth it. you speak without knowing
@@smckay6438just...stupid !
Just ...stupid. @@smckay6438
Cocorico !😂
France : "Gracefully designed to be lethal !" 😝
You missed one key functionality: its battle management is virtualized (like for the Rafale). It means that this frigate will be updated continuously and not only during the MLUs.
I'd also expect it to be able to interface with the Rafale, too
France has proven its ability to have a second to none world class navy (Marine). Its only nuke aircraft carrier CDG is a fine example of a hi-tech home grown carrier with French made Rafale multi role jets, that no other Western European power can project (England’s carriers are old style floating fuel tankers with largely U.S. made F-35’s). However, France only has 1 nuke carrier, which means that when the CDG is undergoing repairs or replacing its nuke fuel rods every few years, France has 0 nuke carriers at sea. If France really wants to project itself as a premier navy, it needs at least 3 nuke carriers in existence. Expensive no doubt but global power projection isn’t cheap. It’s a long term investment in France’s global security.
3 Nuke carriers is way too much for France, it's not only the building and upkeep it is also the man power to use them, then you also need the carrier task group, tankers , submarine, air defense frigates, asw ... Look at the UK they have two and yet can't fully wing them, they have no tanker to escort them they need NATO escort ... I think Europe needs a few carrier, but for this they need to get rid of all those monarchies that keep the people divided since centuries ...
Oui un PA avec son groupe aérien, un autre pour l'écolage, et le troisième en entretien. Soit 4 Flottilles de Rafale au lieu de trois, 4 à 6 Hawkeye au lieu de 3. La différence n' est pas énorme. Mais avec Macron et ses sbires qui pillent le pays et distribuent nos armes...
@JULIENSELLIER Royal Navy has no tanker? You mean apart from RFA Tideforce, RFA Tiderace, RFA Tidesurge, and RFA Tidespring. Four tankers designed and built specifically for carrier operations.
@@stephennelmes4557 True, the RN has 4 big modern tankers but Julien's point is still valid, he just chose a particularly inaccurate thing to falsely highlight to make his point.
He is right though that deploying a carrier group involves far more than just building the carrier itself and the UK is demonstrating that. Claiming a UK lack of tankers was absurd and maybe nothing about the UK's experience is a good example because the UK is building back a carrier capability again after totally losing it for a while so citing lack of planes for instance is probably also not really fair to the RN because we (I'm a Brit) are in the process of having to build up those numbers from scratch after the Harriers were decommissioned.
Even with the T45 power upgrades we can still pull together 2 x ASW and 2 x AAW deployable frigates and once submarine drydocking issues are resolved Astute availability should improve so the biggest criticism/concern regarding UK carrier capability right now would probably be issues with solid stores. With build of the planned 3 new FSS ships not even started yet that leaves us reliant on just Fort Victoria (and that beset with crew shortages and RFA industrial action right now) which doesn't bode well for even a single carrier group always deployable let alone the option to have both at sea (and both properly escorted and provisioned).
Ultimately I hope the UK will build up to full carrier capability where it is always able to deploy a single carrier group - provided some government decision doesn't derail the whole project - but right now we are at the stage of demonstrating quite well the scope of the effort required to build a deployable carrier capability.
@@julianfp1952 The real problem for Western navies and armies is that they serve as adjustment values in the budgetary policies of almost all countries, we order because we need 10 frigates but since times are difficult we will only receive 5 because the budget has been used elsewhere. And this is true almost everywhere.😢😢
Looks superb, congrats from the UK.
UK? Why?
@@ms-lazuli7435 stop it now.
@@Вивсівідстій It's ironic, I find it very funny that the UK congratulates France! It's against nature :)
@@Вивсівідстій pourquoi? nous sommes des alliés!
@@ms-lazuli7435 Why not? Being British doesn't mean that he/she cannot like French naval ships.
Greece has purchased 4 of them. The last three equiped
with scalp missiles
No tree, with a 4th as option.
@@jeanvaljean9293 No, 4. The 4th was ordered 3 weeks ago.
@@jeanvaljean9293 read the news
I'm french and I can tell you Greece is the country we like the most in Europe, because they understand how important it is to boost European defense and not rely completely on the US.
the greek version will have more weapon on board
Long live France 🇫🇷 ❤
French planes ( civilian or military) ships and submarimes, trains, military véhicules..are the most technologicaly advanced and reliable in the world.
The only problem is that we don't have the capacity (or the ambition) to produce large quantities of them which, even with our technologies, will lack in a war
@minothore7585 agreed.
Yes, they are so advanced they come with an automatic White Flag 😂😂😂
No, they are least reliable and they have very bad reputation in the asia - pacific region for not making naval ships. Malaysian corvettes for example :)
@@EthanWright-d4u Another big American asshole, who always repeats the same bullshit.
The Greek version has 32 VLS and two Triple torpedo tubes , 8 exocet air to surface missiles, 2x20 mm narwhal guns and RIM 116 Airframe 21 short range missiles and seems to be n talk to adding the Mdca cruise missile to the ship. That version is kind of the minimum for the fleet. The French will have only the two first Units with 16 VLS and the 3 others with 32 VLS
As usual : we design very good hardware but it is too expensive for our own navy. The export ships are always more powerful...
@@gsbeak it's all based on need. When was the last time any navy fired all the VLS on one if ships ?
@@TheNefastor Si vis pacem, para bellum...
@@TheNefastor recently. They had to get out before expending all against the Yemeni drones.
@@pepitopalotes5608 are we talking about sea drones ? Because AFAIK anti-ship missiles aren't fired by VLS (except on Soviet ships)
The Greek version is on steroids.
it is more the french version wich is unfinished. The place for the add-on VLS is aviable but not fitted
It is France that is downgrading the capabilities of the frigate, the Greek one and a "normal" version for armament.
Well, they use MDCN, so… it is like they build a missile wall in the Agean sea. They can set frigates fully anti-air, but not sure the anti-air load is so different of the French one. Though, they can strike beyond 1000 km, which is nice
@@Вивсівідстій Hahahahahaha...
@@Вивсівідстійlast rear loading was Moskva! And Zelensky is keeping rear loaded daily!
Fun fact besides the Greek fdi double firepower in comparison to the french edition.
The Greek's will attach cruise missiles on those ships aka scalp naval.
its a french choice, i can't explain it but its a choice (maybe strategic, or other but if we made this choici there is a reason)
@@Clipperton-508 money is the reason
@@Clipperton-508 Because they already have a 8 more heavily armed FREMM frigates.
@@Beyllion yeah also, but it don't cost a lot more money to put some other modules (the emplacment are already build but not useable)
Great looking frigate.
Nice greek ancient shape ❤
🇬🇷🤝🇲🇫
Strong alliance 🤝
Ελλάς Γαλλία Συμμαχία!!
Probably Greece will buy 4 FDI. The first two of them will be in French mode (16 aster cells) and the third wih 32 cells plus RAM system. The Fourth one (under negotiations) will probably be like the first two equipped with Sylver 70 allowing it to carry the SCALP NAVAL Missile. If France allow the FDI to carry the SCALP missile then the first two will also carry the Scalp missile (plus RAM system), otherwise another 16 aster cells will be added (plus RAM). In my opinion Greece needs Sylver 70 launcher in 2 FDis and more Scalp Naval missiles could be lauched from submarines or from land . Thats all folks
Very reminiscent of the early French pre-dreadnaught tumbledown ships of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
It's a tumblehome bow. The same as US Navy's Zumwalt class.
Another Drach s fan 😂 Regards from France!
The Greek 🇬🇷 version is having more heavy armaments
sure that's their tier 1 frigate so they need them on steroids while France can rely also on class Horizon and Fremm with 32 Aster 30 and 16 Aster 15 like the "Chevalier Paul" frigate.
As an ex navy man ill never get used to the inverted bow, it looks like a WWI dreadnaught or something the Phoenicians would use. 🤔
I wonder how the sea-keeping would be on that thing in a terrible storm.
@@wyldhowl2821a ton avis petit génie..
les ingénieurs qui ont conçu ce bijou ont ils fait des essais sur le sujet ???
C' est dans les vielles marmite que l' on fait les meilleurs plats 😅😉
@@richardhoyau936 I asked a legitimate question. Do you have the answer ?
@@Fred-vy1hm ancient greek triiris. Found in ancient Corinth since 800 bc(at least).
2:15 with greek flag 😊
yep they buy 4 of them...
Wonderful Franz and Greece Technologie ❤❤❤❤
There is no Greek tech involved on that ship. Only French.
Greece just bought three of them and decided to begin negotiations for a forth one.
Only the first one is built in France (because it was initially for France before being reassigned to Greece during the negotiation). The rest will be built in Greece.
@@edouardmontfort7816 no mate. They are all being built in France. Only some modules are made in Greece which are not super high tech.
All the electronics, and most of the complexed mechanical parts are made in France. And of course the final assembly of them.
@@George_Vargiamides Yes my mistake.
No wonder they are the second largest merchants of death on the planet, submarines, fighter jets, artillery. It seems they have some know-how.
It's simply the only country after the US to have a full autonomous military industry (Yes even Russia doesn't, Russia is also a customer of France for anything related to optical devices)
We're latins. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
16 missiles for air-defence is far too few, the Greek variant is much improved.
The space for 16 additional VLS is already built in the Frigate. Meaning that it can easily be upgraded to 32 VLS if a high intensity war was to come.
but i agree with him that greek version should be the french version too ...
16 VLS is too few ... even for a light fregate
@@TelManothHexperax It wouldn't be an issue if they quad packed either CAMM or ESSM, but as far as I'm aware the French navy doesn't have these weapons.
@@Cravendale98 I think that making smaller frigates, very advanced tenologically in particular on detection and a good path for Europe.
the big frigates are becoming so expensive and each time their number is doubled and the unit cost explodes, we concentrate them on a strike group around the aircraft carrier but there are not enough of them to do surveillance.
Now for almost the same shot 16 missiles instead of 32 it's a real shame to limit yourself like this for very little savings
Greece needs extra armament because that is the only tier 1 frigate they will have. France has Fremm and Horizon class frigates as well. FDI is there to replace the La Fayette frigates, which are less armed than FDI.
The Aegean Sea and East Mediterranean Sea are locked now with 4 Greek FDI Frigates.
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The front design is from Ancient Greek warships, also used in the famous Averoff battleship during the early part of the 20th Century! Greece is getting 4 of them, 3 the next 2 years! 🇫🇷🇬🇷🇫🇷🇬🇷
Beautifull design indeed 👍😍
Exocet is the only missile to have sunk a ship, the Sheffield; as it happens.
Inverted bow? Dreadnought back in the menu, boys!
It's funny how french frigates always have lower amount of weapons on the same ship compared to the version that goes to the other EU nations.
It happened to the fregates built in cooperation with Italy.
And now again with Greece despite both versions being built in France this time.
I guess the French Navy is like "No, we don't need too many weapons please".
It's funny how the french carrier strike group comes with much more power : 30 Rafales, that can be put in the air with a 10 tones payload (including nuclear missiles), because the carrier has a catapult... On the Italian side, after modernization and removal of good old Harriers, we'll be talking about 10 F35 with a payload of 1,4 tone in the stealth configuration... Conclusion 🇫🇷 300 tones payload vs 🇮🇹 14 tones (if Trump doesn't remove you from the cloud). So yeah, Italy can put more guns on the frigates !
What a beauty 😀
I so hope Norway buys this or the British type 26 over the American constellation class, but I feare we won't. I hope France is flexible enough to ensure that Norwegian weapon systems and fire controll etc can be implemented. Thus maby, just maby this beuty can be our next frigate.
This video presented nothing of this frigate's capabilities.
EDIT: the Greek Navy will probably be called in the near future to present Belharra's *true* capabilities to one of Greece's neighbouring countries should the latter decide to materialize its threats.
beautiful
I worked in that shipyard as a translator and I live not far. away We don't pronounce the T in LOrient.
Yup! It looks great. But, remember what it’s for.!❤❤👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧
Launching Exocets, among other things. 🙈
2:37 Stop Bouncing 🤨!?
Indeed !
No mention of electrical power generation for the next generation of laser and similar weapons.
How can it halt a thousand small drones, each weighing 1000 grams, launched 40 minutes prior and flying at an altitude of 30 meters above sea level?
with an electromagnetic pulse. Greece has built and tested its own systems that it can put on top, I imagine the French also have something similar
why u didt mention the Hellenic Version which is already with more heavy equipment like RAM AA and MCDN Scalp Nava?l its in 2:24
@AB-gi3qy Figure this as an opponent you launch a strike of 16 combat planes you sink the frigate but lost 10/12 aircrafts as she defends herself and perhaps your own carrier (excocet scalp or torpedos) . I mean it would quite a deterrent as such. And she wouldn't be alone.Even they couldn't all effective 16 missiles are a large threat especially againt helicopter , survellance aircraft and carrier based planes. And oto melara 76 qF could be qite a thing against cruise/anti ships missiles. And this navy has also icbm submarines. To protect wkoe countries
Why is the inverted bow back after 100 years? Why was it gone?
A flared bow keeps the fore deck dryer but is subject to greater pitching movement. The inverted bow works the other way prioritizing platform stability in a seaway but with a wetter foredeck .
@arno_nuehm_1 "Why is the inverted bow" The purpose and shape are totally different from those around 1880 At the time, they were supposed to be fast, maneuvrable and capable of sinking an adversary ship by ramming into it (like the Romans and Greeks used to). Now the shape is different with a large bulb under the water to host sensors and also to improve the water flow and ship stability
Nobody has criticized the "wave piercer" Australian bow design when it came out. I suspect the rationale for the FDI bow design is similar to that of the wave piercer.
the Greek frigates are too strong, in addition they will have cruise missiles. turbo 💪
The inverted bow looks like we are going back to pre-WWI.
Pas mal non ? C'est Français !
"ca vous plait?... et bien c'est moi qui l ai fais..."
But why a friagate? It weights like a convertte
It's a very beautiful and technological boat. It is certainly very effective and formidable in many missions. But it's a shame that all of this can be destroyed with a simple saturating attack of a dozen drones at $50,000 each. How does it defend itself against drones? Does it have a rapid and economical fire system to take down this type of machine?
There is a laser system being developed by greek industry, namly by Soukos Robots, as well as an anti-drone dedicated electronic system.
Obviously it's equipped with electronic warfare against drones. You won't teach hundreds of engineers and military experts what is the threat behind your keyboard...
yaay! now build, man, and sail a hundred of these boats. a single boat is essentially inutile.
inutile for what , invade China / US ?
Facts: That bow design doesn't give you an improved seakeeping and stability. But yes for some may be a good aesthetic. Also it s nothing to do with resistance, it only gives you a dripping wet bow like designers girl friends.. yeah. So you got the message.
You will get your message in the appropriate time
Ues but how does it handle reefs?😂
Is it dei captain proof?
Yes, don't worry. I know the captain.
@@mikethegreek4408 What's the captain's preferred pronoun?
@@tomlee7956 Squarepants.
Im not sold in the reverse bow, lack of buoyancy in the bow is never a good thing
What, you think it's going to sink?
We saw the demonstration of forces and the capabilities of the French Frigates against missiles and drones in the Red Sea.
If it were Russian frigates it would be like the Black Sea...
yeah seeing the Russian power get sunk or return to their port would be really black...no disrespect to them🙁
To light armed..no change at all in long range naval battles
This ultra modern frigate looks like the ones Iran and North Korea build
😂😂😂😂
Best joke ever : )
Lol
Let's remind that even the US have bought the French-Italian FREMM frigate. Because they couldn't do better. This FDI is the next generation. 😉
On this channels site one finds a large number of COMIC BOOK GRAPHICS announcing the various videos; plus lots of SENSATIONALIST TITLES: SHOCKING! MIND BLOWING! STUNNING!
UNSTOPPABLE! MYSTERIOUS! DRAMATIC! GENIUS! SUPER GENIUS! FINALLY! SUPER! SUPER! & MORE SUPER!!!! Gent uses ADJECTIVES as if they are MIGHTY WEAPONS OF THE WORLD...
Must have taken the old adage "The pen is mightier than the sword" to heart... Sad the lengths some go to farm LIKES / SUBSCRIBES in UA-cam....
How is the speed of replenishing the missiles? This has been an issue on current French frigates especially in the Persian gulf.
It's funny how the French built them but it's the Greeks who optimized them, specifically demanding the addition of the RAM launcher and the 32 SYLVER launchers for Aster missiles, as shown in 02:24.
Hope that warship is not given a DEI captain. We all know how that works out.
Get a life seriously.
@@Beyllion 🤣
Drone fodder 😂
less hype wording and more facts. learn how to pronounce bow correctly.
Was it not engineered with the Italian ? Or do they have only help why money ?
It’s more corvette rather than a Frigate
A corvette has limited anti-air and anti-surface capabilities. This beauty has area AA defence capabilities and extended anti-surface capacity, including land-attack. The most important though, this ship will be a force coordinator for a number of naval, air and land forces. That's the answer to your dilemma.
It’s does everything and it’s above 4000 tonnes. Light frigate but frigate none the less
Boy Corvettes are 3000 tones and above this and light armed with few capabilities on defence, attack and electronics. Fdi has everything and the Greek version is on steroids. With plus 16 Aster 30(32 in total) ,Cruise missiles and Ram block 2b with 21 cells surface to air missiles, 2 Nexter Narwhal, 8 exocet missiles and the 76mm Oto melara
No more and no less what the Italians already did with their Thaon di Revel Class. Light frigates heavily armed. A concept already put on the sea by Italians.
The french frigate is more advanced on digital integration, AI driven decision support, cybersecurity standards... Since the beginning it was designed and announced as the "digital frigate". No surprise.
@edouardmontfort7816 Not really, but are free to believe it
@@solinvictus1234 Just look at the 2 ships visually, you already understand who's done a better job. 😂
@@edouardmontfort7816 Saying that a ship is better than another looking it just visually, mean not knowing anything regarding ships. And you just proven me that.
@@solinvictus1234 I made a cheap reply because there was no argument in your previous comment. We can both trash talk. 😉
So it is slower than a type 26, it has a small range suitable for coastal operations.
Why call it a super frigate?
Why are you even comparing to a type 26???
Type 26 sits between a french/italian FREMM and a type 45 destroyer.
The FDI is a medium support frigate. It's not limited to coastal operations. And it's not slower.
Fregate?. Who the hell programmed your AI?.
The French navy does not use the word "Destroyer" : we only use "Frigate". "frégate de premier rang" (first rank frigate) is how we call a destroyer.
It's French, and that's the French word for that type of ship.
Ok, nice. Does this mean that it's named Frigate because of the French wording and it's a destroyer in real?
Keep in mind that more than 30-40% of the english words come from the french language! (yes you can verify that on google...)
France is already done ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂ali akbar😂😂😂😂😂
U're right, wherever Islam goes, chaos, mayhem, overpopulated jails, knive attacks, drug dealing, insults, all this in a name of their f'king religion etc... Parasite?
I'm French, and i'm sure its an amazing ship, but a looker it is not!
First WOKE vessel
Why?
@@ms-lazuli7435 listen the audio with accuracy "humantarian" task force under wokish/EU govment (and Nato Command).
Oh no the USA is ahead of woke stuff... even their Boyz are transgender now... an army with two moms even in the bristish army is the same, there is no such thing in france. From a proud french 🇨🇵 POWER😎🫵👊👊
Looks like someone's idea of a joke.
but a joke that work very well
looks small and ..thin.... is really a good ship as they said??
Like French cars, they are probably at their best when docked at harbour 😂
Jealous...😅
Never seen someone dock a car at a harbour but you do you
@zefyrisd69 French cars are at their best when parked the same way their vessels when docked
@@davidatrakchi2707 park your car in water all you want, but that sounds stupid to me.
Not a match for the UK type 26
C'est possible, mais nous au moins nous avons encore des matelots à bord ...😂
British boats never work...
What are you talking about
Besides, they have been destroying the French Navy all through history
So pretty reliable 😂 😂
@@stevesmitherman2981 don't be so confident Brown tang 😁 amiral suffren also called "amiral satan" sink many many british yellow teeth ships and nelson was inspired by this guy and remember that england was the first french colony by the william the french conqueror, so as a french i am your Master... now send a nude of your mo.... 🥒 🍑 🤣🤣🇨🇵🧀🍷
@@stevesmitherman2981 lire in Yourtown🤣🤣
I was engaged up until those stupid , no reason whatsoever for , bouncing graphics . Do better !
It sortied to meet the enemy and unfurled the most stylish white flag ever made!
The joke that keeps on giving.... It is becoming so heavy that pathetic comes to mind ...
Ignorant, as usual.
Google : what country has the most battles won..😅
révisez votre histoire avant de dire n'importe quoi.
Well hidden behind your computer and a fake name its so easy isn't it you pussy ?
Si les français n'avaient pas aidé les insurgents américains,ta bêtise n'aurait jamais pu imaginer l'immense drapeau blanc qui te sert de litère.IGNARE!
Typiquement américain d'être aussi con!Que ce soit en histoire,en géopolitique ou toute autre matière!
Thr 76mm shown firing is the 86 rounds per minute very old normal Compatto gun, apparently the machine gun like 130 rounds per minute variant of the SuperRapido is a French exclusive "mod"
Thanks Italy for providing the main gun of our ships.
Just a cheap tiny copy of the American USS Zumwalt 😂😂😂
it's not really not
Maybe cheaper by $6.5 billion, but not with useless guns, like Zumwalt's AGS...
@@mikethegreek4408- No, it’s made by the French… it just comes with a giant White Flag 😂😂😂
@@EthanWright-d4u the french know how to build ships, unlike the american with there useless and failed ships lcs, zumwalt, etc... they even buy europeean ships for their constellation class... bcoz the USA make CRAP. Your jealousy is RIDICULOUS like your ships😂😂😂
@@EthanWright-d4u you still got the problem with losing the American colonies........?......viva France