You didn't mention the other function of that unit - it has a moisture detector that gets placed on the floor under the machine, so if the washing machine itself fails and starts leaking, it also shuts off the water to prevent further damage.
For $11 I purchased the flood alarm from Home Depot or Lowe’s. I put them threw out my home. Bathrooms, water heater, sinks and of course wash room. They work good but you have to be home to hear the alarm but then most leaks start out small before they become major. They work great.
I have the Ring wifi version. Battery is still full after 4 years, and you get instant notification. This device is better though with the autoshutoff. You can also get wifi whole home shutoffs with leak detection
Ive just got in the habit over 20 years to replace the factory hose with good stainless steel ones I replace every 5 years. Placebo affect, I dont know. Ive never had leak
Last I checked those auto-shutoff valves are quite expensive, I opted for a couple water leak alarms! Got a set of 2 for under $10, each take a 9v battery, and they work great. As soon as water completes the circuit on the little wires/board at the end of the line, the alarm goes off! Since we live on the 2nd floor, I put one by our washer, and the other under our kitchen sink since I have filtered water lines there.
@@Kevin-mp5of For a couple hundred dollars, the auto-shutoff is a better option of course for the washer, but nobody installs those under the sink. In my situation, I told my neighbor to shut off our main if he ever noticed a leak.
This is so true. My wife and I bought a brand new home and when we did our final walk thru the water was turned on. The washer was on the second floor. Well the washer hoses were not connected to the valves and the valves were on. We didn’t go to the new home until 3 days l! After we closed. Long story short we had 30k in damages before we even stepped into the brand new home. Water was pouring into the first floor and the basement
....and the seller paid for it, yes? Any damage when the seller owned the property (before closing) is their responsibility. I would not have signed the closing documents without ensuring they paid for it. If they went through insurance, I would not close until the repairs were complete.
@@mr.g937 nope we paid it. We couldn’t prove that the hose was not attached at the time of closing. So as soon as we signed the papers and closed, they called the water company to turn on the water. But when we did the final walk thru the week before they plugged in the hose to the washer so we can test it out and then when we left they turned off the water and disconnected the hose but didn’t turn the actual valve off. Either way we were responsible. The good news on all of this was that my insurance paid for it and then dropped us after the year lol . But! We signed with a new insurance provider thru my employer and actually ended up playing less of a premium. So it worked out at the end .
@@joshuaroque6514 Insurance providers will almost always drop anyone who makes a claim in their first year. I misread your previous post, I thought you said you discovered it during the final walk-through, but it sounds like you're saying you discovered it after closing.
@@mr.g937 true story! Discovery was made after closing. We should have been responsible home owners and gone to the house right after signing. Lesson learned lol
I shut off the valves every time I do a load of laundry. It really isn't a big deal. I do it because when I sold my second house, those valves were in the open position for over 16 years and yes, they wouldn't shut off when I wanted it to, in my case, the day of moving!
I turn mine off when I leave for a weekend or on vacation. I know I should do it more often but at least I won't come home to a flooded house after a relaxing vacation.
@@gizmobowen and speaking of vacations, I know I should actually turn off all the water valves but I don't. My condo only has one master water shut off for each four units. When I'm out in my RV, I actually turn off the park's water feed to my RV when we leave for the day. Water damage is the worse thing that can happen to an RV.
I decided to replace my over 20 year old washer hoses. The rubber gaskets were in decent condition. I could feel that they were starting to get hard. I didn't feel any weak spots in the hose.
I am putting in an upstairs laundry. Good product suggestion but it only addresses a water shut off and that is but one kind of leak. I am not really concerned about a hose busting loose because more then likely they will start by leaking and get progressivly worse. I am thinking about backups and a clogged drain or washing machine failures as well. I seems like the washing machine should have a reservior of some kind between it and the drain pipe. Much in the same way you have a laundry sink in the basement. And you still have to have some kind of lint strainer I think. There has to be some kind of drain on the floor as well.
Richard, I've heard you say this for years (I've even asked about it in UA-cam comments), but I can't figure out why you think the washer is somehow different from every toilet and sink and water connection in the house. These are all the same connections. The hoses are right next to each other in the store. There can't be anything meaningfully different about them. Why do we need this for the washer and nothing else? (And don't say water hammer)
That's simply not correct. The types of hoses you can buy for the washer and every other connection are the same. You can buy braided or not, but if Richard recommended only buying braided ss (which I do) I wouldn't be asking why the washer needs some special device. Now, *maybe* you're on to something for vibration, but that doesn't imply special devices -- just different hoses.
@@cbfreder completely agree with you and never understood this. They're literally the exact same hoses and connections. You don't see people turning the water off to their toilets after use! 😂
@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 the PEX/copper goes to a valve at the wall. The fixture is connected to that valve with a short length of hose--the one that they're talking about breaking. You still do want a valve at the wall, but the question is why is the solution some ridiculous device and not, like I think you're trying to say, a hose that doesn't break. The point is though, Richard only (and regularly) recommends something like this for the washer, but the connections are the same for every sink and toilet in your house as well.
If you read the reviews for that expensive device you'll likely opt for a different solution i.e, burst free hoses, floor drain, water alarms, or just getting in the habit of shutting the valves off after use.
I have great respect for this show and this is a great upgarde, however the Itelli-Timer model used in this video is problematic and not relaiable over the long term. We installed 60 of them, many have failed, We are going to the RS - 70, DYI by Flood Master - no plumber required for the install if you're handy
I put ball valves in 40 years ago but the 2 or 3 times that my wife closed them forgot to open them next time she used washer. Will be purchasing something like you shown. Also have 2 solenoids that I will be installing on my 40 gallon water heater. First 2 water heaters that I installed 40 some years ago leaked.
We installed that unit on our HE top-loader not for the safety shutoff but for water savings! If the machine goes off-balance it will fill all the way up over and over fruitlessly trying to correct the off-balance problem and wasting dozens of gallons of water! With this unit it always cuts off after 60 minutes because we'd rather have the machine stall and give an error code than run all day and waste water on a problem it's unable to fix.
The machine won’t let me add enough water to completely cover the clothing, but when it goes off balance it will burn through 100’s gallons trying to fix it. Energy star regulations are a joke. I hate baby sitting my washer.
Really? Since I usually only do one load of wash at a time, I turn mine off when I take the clean laundry out of my washer. I think people are just lazy.
Thanks for your video. I live in a condo that is 35 yrs old and the plumbing waste and vents for are all 1 1/2 “ except the toilet . I read the code for rough in laundry box must be 2 inches. In your video the laundry box looks like 1 1/2 “ I’m planing to rough it in with 1 1/2” cause converting to two inch line is a major job , I’m on the second floor. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
Just get a good set of stainless hoses and change them out every 5 years. This is typical advice, they're like $20 on amazon. Never turned off the washer in my life...except to change the hose. Never known anyone who has...it just isn't necessary. Don't use crappy 1950s style rubber hose!
Love the channel...please help. I purchased the Samsung flex washer which has two drainage hose that combine to make to make one giving a diameter of 2in. My drainage hole for the hose only 1inch in diameter, what can I use to make it fit? What are some options I can consider?
I like this idea and it is very good but if they could add an additional feature to this that can be a sensor or two that you put down on the floor near the washer so if water does get on it or the washer leaks somehow or another it can be connected and shut the water off and let you know in real-time what is happening on your smartphone so you can take care of it and know what is going on?
don't forget to mention it has alarm if water is on the ground, it has two leads that have sensors on the end of the lead wires they are to be put on the ground next to the washer and it will shut off the water too... soon the unit will text you and call on cell phone you need to check your washer my be leaking...
I have something that I suggest you put in a video you should tell people if you have a tractor style lawn mower if you drill a hole in the blower and put a Bungie thing put one of the hooks in the hole and the other in the vent on the hood of the mower so you can go around thing the other way to and if there is a pile of grass if you lift it up you can blow the grass farther
Tell me about it, thinking back on the hoses that were put on the washing machine when I moved into this house some 20+ years ago. Oh yeah that 5 year rated water heater that's pushing 15 years and I've never changed out an anode rod. Well everything is in a basement, on a concrete slab that's sloped towards a floor drain so I'm good to go :D
Yeah but don't modern HE washers draw a small amount of current even when off? Won't that trick the value from closing or is there a minimum amount of current the washer has to draw in order for the value to open?
those dahl valves in that 3rd floor laundry are canadian made. woohoo. they are the best valves you can buy. and YES, i do turn off the hot and cold valves ALL the TIME.
The Steel hoses that I have, have a built-in pressure regulator that if the pressure had a rapid change it will kick in and stop the water from leaking out.
hey Richard: that laundry/bathroom looks relatively new compared to the basement. Why weren't they required by code to run a 2" stand pipe for the washer, instead of the 1-1/2" line they ran? (no permit job?)
How Does it release the pressure, or does it just make it so if it leaks it's limited to leaking the water in the hose? Because even if you shut the water valve there is still "full city pressure" in the hose causing ware and tare. (If you ever disconnected a hose head or pressure washer after turning off the hose, there is still the pressure in it.)
I believe most code requires a drain under a washer pan for 2nd floor+ residential structures. Problem is, a burst hose may not necessarily land all the water into the pan itself. Still would have significant water damage.
Interesting, but many washers are now Wi-Fi enabled for remote notifications, so this power-off option would negate that feature by resetting the connection. Also, most the leaks I’ve see from my homeowners are from the Applience itself during operation. Best option for an upstairs laundry is to build the entire floor and back wall like a tiled shower pan
I wouldn't even consider living space laundry without a floor drain. It just isn't worth the risk. We had a leak from our LG washer last year. It turned out to be the bleach dispenser solenoid.. I disconnected the solenoid from power and the leak stopped. We didn't use the dispenser enough to justify replacing the entire solenoid unit. If I need to bleach something, I'll just pour the bleach into the tub first, load the washer and go from there.
@@kingpaco37 Old post I know, but quite the opposite. Leaving them in one position will cause them to stick. Exercising them regularly (not 100K actuations a week of course) will prolong the life and keep the packing from becoming stuck.
Looks cheaper then a whole house one.. I had a toilet lid fall down on the toilet and cracked it.. I'm was on the 2nd floor..was not home and it looked like Is Niagara Falls in the foyer when I got home
I've changed all my toilet lids to the soft-close kind. It's a nice upgrade, but there's one problem: when I go somewhere without it, it startles me when I tip the lid closed with my finger and it falls down WHAM.
A solution that might be better: AMAZON Flood Safe Washing Machine Hoses With Rigid Corrugated Outer Walland Built-in Auto Shut-off Valve Part number SHK-AQCG-5GN-024
Let’s not forget these washer hoses carry water , so that the pipes behind our walls and they don’t burst out as often as the washing machines. There should be a better way to connect. Maybe use pex or copper instead.
Why not just run Pex lines to the washing machine? Instead of using glorified garden hoses. For that matter why do washing machines still use garden hose type connectors?
@@211teitake, You're welcome. From what I understand, a washer requires way less pressure and flow than a broken line would provide, so it shuts itself off. Maybe a plumber will chime in ?
While the flow of water to the washing machine will be shut off, there will still be pressure on the hose. The only way to depressurize the hose is to open the valve on the other end of the hose, inside the washing machine, by turning it on, which you can’t do because the washing machine is plugged into the new switch. 🤔 We have a weekend house where we shut off the water when we are not there. After we shut the water off, we open the faucets to depressurize the system. Unless I am mistaken, it seems that this switch will not do that.
The valve is going to shut the hose off from city water pressure. It will still be pressurized, but it will only contain the limited amount of water between the wall and the back of the unit. If the hose fails, the damage will be minor since there’s not much water there.
@@BitmappedWV Yes. Understood. However, he said several times that the hose will be depressurized. It will not. The hose will last longer if it is depressurized.
@@a921dji3 I just replaced a W/D that was 28 years old. Same hoses since install. Only time I had water on the floor was when someone tried to put a large comforter in and the incoming water in the tub spilled into the floor. Otherwise nothing. The hoses were still decent when removed. Like others I never shut off the valve in almost 30 years, and they did leak a little at the packing nut when I shut them off (and I had to use a cutting tool to remove the connector at the hose). Otherwise no issues. Not typical or expected but hoses don't just rupture for no reason. Replace your hoses on a schedule and you probably never see a newer WD last 30 years.
Hello I'm a Appliance technician by trade and This safety shut off valve is great idea..BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ON CERTAIN WASHERS MODELS,due to the way they work on start up..the water doesn't come in continuous and instead they pulsates income,which shuts down that safety valve (valve thinks there's a leak,unless manufacturer has changed that feature)..customer calls for a problem service on washer and this valve ends up being the major problem. I've seen it several times..so PLEASE LOOK INTO THE MODEL YOUR BUYING BEFORE U SPEND ALL THAT MONEY!!!!!ALSO THEY HAVE ANTI FLOOD WASHER AND DISHWASHER HOSES WITH A SAFTEY CHECK VALVE..ANOTHER GREAT IDEA,BUT IF THE WATER PRESSURE VERY HIGH IN THE HOUSE..IT WILL STOP THE WATER FROM GOING INTO THE UNIT AND THERE'S NO LEAK COMING FROM THE HOSES AT ALL
I don't get it. What's different between a washer hose and the hoses you have under every sink and toilet... Nobody turns those on and off. They're no different.
What I understand is that washing machine hoses go through a lot of stress due to vibrations cause by dry spin cycle and therefore fail at the end. The hoses under sink and toilet are not subject to vibration
Well, lots of times they are different. They are often just rubber hoses. Still, my last apartment flooded due to a bad connection at the toilet, so you're probably on to something.
What others have said and also size of the hoses toilets, and sinks. Usually use 3/8 lines washing machine use 3/4 lines. Wich both could cause issues if they burst. If your home at the time of failure the sink an toilet will do little to no damage. But a washing machine will do damage regardless if you are home or not. Imagine it this way constantly pouring a 5 gallon jug of water over your head, compared to pouring a small cup of water over your head.
No. No. NO! You just added another failure point to the system and replaced metal spigots with plastic. Sure those metal hoses are depressurized. And the pressure is now held by a Chinese manufactured plastic valve in the wall.
Only came to watch Richard say full city water pressure.
You didn't mention the other function of that unit - it has a moisture detector that gets placed on the floor under the machine, so if the washing machine itself fails and starts leaking, it also shuts off the water to prevent further damage.
For $11 I purchased the flood alarm from Home Depot or Lowe’s. I put them threw out my home. Bathrooms, water heater, sinks and of course wash room. They work good but you have to be home to hear the alarm but then most leaks start out small before they become major. They work great.
Who responds to the flood alarm when you aren't home?
@@rickybobby7276 they now sell a wifi one
I have the Ring wifi version. Battery is still full after 4 years, and you get instant notification. This device is better though with the autoshutoff. You can also get wifi whole home shutoffs with leak detection
Ive just got in the habit over 20 years to replace the factory hose with good stainless steel ones I replace every 5 years. Placebo affect, I dont know. Ive never had leak
This Old House is literally one of the most important programs ever created. Rich and Tom don't ever retire!
Tommy would like to have a word after your "structural improvement"
Last I checked those auto-shutoff valves are quite expensive, I opted for a couple water leak alarms! Got a set of 2 for under $10, each take a 9v battery, and they work great. As soon as water completes the circuit on the little wires/board at the end of the line, the alarm goes off! Since we live on the 2nd floor, I put one by our washer, and the other under our kitchen sink since I have filtered water lines there.
@@Kevin-mp5of For a couple hundred dollars, the auto-shutoff is a better option of course for the washer, but nobody installs those under the sink.
In my situation, I told my neighbor to shut off our main if he ever noticed a leak.
It was and still is standard operating procedure to turn off water after laundry is completed. I use the one lever shutoff valve.
This is so true. My wife and I bought a brand new home and when we did our final walk thru the water was turned on. The washer was on the second floor. Well the washer hoses were not connected to the valves and the valves were on. We didn’t go to the new home until 3 days l! After we closed. Long story short we had 30k in damages before we even stepped into the brand new home. Water was pouring into the first floor and the basement
Wow. That is rough. I wouldn't have thought about that.
....and the seller paid for it, yes? Any damage when the seller owned the property (before closing) is their responsibility. I would not have signed the closing documents without ensuring they paid for it. If they went through insurance, I would not close until the repairs were complete.
@@mr.g937 nope we paid it. We couldn’t prove that the hose was not attached at the time of closing. So as soon as we signed the papers and closed, they called the water company to turn on the water. But when we did the final walk thru the week before they plugged in the hose to the washer so we can test it out and then when we left they turned off the water and disconnected the hose but didn’t turn the actual valve off. Either way we were responsible. The good news on all of this was that my insurance paid for it and then dropped us after the year lol . But! We signed with a new insurance provider thru my employer and actually ended up playing less of a premium. So it worked out at the end .
@@joshuaroque6514 Insurance providers will almost always drop anyone who makes a claim in their first year. I misread your previous post, I thought you said you discovered it during the final walk-through, but it sounds like you're saying you discovered it after closing.
@@mr.g937 true story! Discovery was made after closing. We should have been responsible home owners and gone to the house right after signing. Lesson learned lol
I shut off the valves every time I do a load of laundry. It really isn't a big deal.
I do it because when I sold my second house, those valves were in the open position for over 16 years and yes, they wouldn't shut off when I wanted it to, in my case, the day of moving!
I do the same, habit now
I turn mine off when I leave for a weekend or on vacation. I know I should do it more often but at least I won't come home to a flooded house after a relaxing vacation.
@@gizmobowen and speaking of vacations, I know I should actually turn off all the water valves but I don't. My condo only has one master water shut off for each four units. When I'm out in my RV, I actually turn off the park's water feed to my RV when we leave for the day. Water damage is the worse thing that can happen to an RV.
Install a floor drain with the initial plumbing that also can mitigate flooding of house
I decided to replace my over 20 year old washer hoses. The rubber gaskets were in decent condition. I could feel that they were starting to get hard. I didn't feel any weak spots in the hose.
Lots of the reviews on the Amazon link says these devices fail after a few years.
Wow!! He did that w/o screaming, and swearing?! What a nice man!
I am putting in an upstairs laundry. Good product suggestion but it only addresses a water shut off and that is but one kind of leak. I am not really concerned about a hose busting loose because more then likely they will start by leaking and get progressivly worse. I am thinking about backups and a clogged drain or washing machine failures as well. I seems like the washing machine should have a reservior of some kind between it and the drain pipe. Much in the same way you have a laundry sink in the basement. And you still have to have some kind of lint strainer I think. There has to be some kind of drain on the floor as well.
I still shut mine off.
Richard, I've heard you say this for years (I've even asked about it in UA-cam comments), but I can't figure out why you think the washer is somehow different from every toilet and sink and water connection in the house.
These are all the same connections. The hoses are right next to each other in the store. There can't be anything meaningfully different about them.
Why do we need this for the washer and nothing else? (And don't say water hammer)
Toilets and sinks are braided hoses, they aren't subjected to vibration either. Rubber hoses are flexible but degrade over time.
That's simply not correct. The types of hoses you can buy for the washer and every other connection are the same. You can buy braided or not, but if Richard recommended only buying braided ss (which I do) I wouldn't be asking why the washer needs some special device.
Now, *maybe* you're on to something for vibration, but that doesn't imply special devices -- just different hoses.
@@cbfreder completely agree with you and never understood this. They're literally the exact same hoses and connections. You don't see people turning the water off to their toilets after use! 😂
Why would you use those flexible hoses anyway if you can also use pex or copper?
@@rutgerhoutdijk3547 the PEX/copper goes to a valve at the wall. The fixture is connected to that valve with a short length of hose--the one that they're talking about breaking.
You still do want a valve at the wall, but the question is why is the solution some ridiculous device and not, like I think you're trying to say, a hose that doesn't break.
The point is though, Richard only (and regularly) recommends something like this for the washer, but the connections are the same for every sink and toilet in your house as well.
Could you also install a floor drain in the event your washer leaks?
Drinking game... Everytime Rich says "Full city water pressure" in a video, you take a shot.
like wise with Tommy and "dado" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I turn it off whenever I'm away for more than a day or two on vacation or something of the sort.
Same though I just shut off the entire house
In Australia we have floor drains
If you read the reviews for that expensive device you'll likely opt for a different solution i.e, burst free hoses, floor drain, water alarms, or just getting in the habit of shutting the valves off after use.
Richard my washing machine won't spin and rinse close complete of laundry center. what could cause the promblem?
I have great respect for this show and this is a great upgarde, however the Itelli-Timer model used in this video is problematic and not relaiable over the long term. We installed 60 of them, many have failed, We are going to the RS - 70, DYI by Flood Master - no plumber required for the install if you're handy
hi.. what is the name of the plier for clamping the hose
You do after one breaks. I did
@Thìs Old House ✔ turn off the blue and red washer faucet after each wash.
they should really make codes to force builders to make some sort plumbing drain back up for these second story units
More holes weekens the structure 💁🏻♂️
@@RandomVids519 you have to put alot of "holes" in the framing for all sorts of things
You just have cold water here in the uk for washing machines no hot and cold fill machines unless you get commercial ones
Any reason you don’t use primer first before you glue
I put ball valves in 40 years ago but the 2 or 3 times that my wife closed them forgot to open them next time she used washer. Will be purchasing something like you shown. Also have 2 solenoids that I will be installing on my 40 gallon water heater. First 2 water heaters that I installed 40 some years ago leaked.
We installed that unit on our HE top-loader not for the safety shutoff but for water savings! If the machine goes off-balance it will fill all the way up over and over fruitlessly trying to correct the off-balance problem and wasting dozens of gallons of water! With this unit it always cuts off after 60 minutes because we'd rather have the machine stall and give an error code than run all day and waste water on a problem it's unable to fix.
You must have a Samsung too 😂
The machine won’t let me add enough water to completely cover the clothing, but when it goes off balance it will burn through 100’s gallons trying to fix it. Energy star regulations are a joke. I hate baby sitting my washer.
@@MoneyManHolmes Actually it's an LG.
Richard is absolutely right no one remembers to shut the valves off. Yes I'm guilty too
Really? Since I usually only do one load of wash at a time, I turn mine off when I take the clean laundry out of my washer. I think people are just lazy.
@@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores I don't think it's laziness, I think most people don't know that you're supposed to.
@@Tata-iu3fy Then I guess I have my mother to thank for showing me. Thanks, Mom!
Thanks for your video. I live in a condo that is 35 yrs old and the plumbing waste and vents for are all 1 1/2 “ except the toilet .
I read the code for rough in laundry box must be 2 inches. In your video the laundry box looks like 1 1/2 “
I’m planing to rough it in with 1 1/2” cause converting to two inch line is a major job , I’m on the second floor. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks
Lol he leaves that black cable tangled on the wall
Plastic connectors- pass. I have alarms, pan and a sensor that shuts off the appliance. If the hose breaks I am in trouble.
This is a very odd issue for us in the UK as not sure if down the fact the mains pressure is more controlled but these hoses don't tend to bust.
Water Heater: Is there a similar mechanism for standard water heater?
Of course, leak detect to shut off water supply.
Just get a good set of stainless hoses and change them out every 5 years. This is typical advice, they're like $20 on amazon. Never turned off the washer in my life...except to change the hose. Never known anyone who has...it just isn't necessary. Don't use crappy 1950s style rubber hose!
There are flimsy o rings on the upstream side of that valve.
Does this contraption work as a water hammer prevention as well?
Love the channel...please help. I purchased the Samsung flex washer which has two drainage hose that combine to make to make one giving a diameter of 2in. My drainage hole for the hose only 1inch in diameter, what can I use to make it fit? What are some options I can consider?
What if the drain line is blocked, overflowing or has wiggled out of the drain pipe? This won’t work. Modern washing machines only last 5 -8 years.
I like this idea and it is very good but if they could add an additional feature to this that can be a sensor or two that you put down on the floor near the washer so if water does get on it or the washer leaks somehow or another it can be connected and shut the water off and let you know in real-time what is happening on your smartphone so you can take care of it and know what is going on?
Anyone know why i would have an e tra drain/vent in laundry room built in to wall
That seems like a great idea where do you buy that product from
don't forget to mention it has alarm if water is on the ground, it has two leads that have sensors on the end of the lead wires they are to be put on the ground next to the washer and it will shut off the water too... soon the unit will text you and call on cell phone you need to check your washer my be leaking...
I have something that I suggest you put in a video you should tell people if you have a tractor style lawn mower if you drill a hole in the blower and put a Bungie thing put one of the hooks in the hole and the other in the vent on the hood of the mower so you can go around thing the other way to and if there is a pile of grass if you lift it up you can blow the grass farther
I bet a lot of folks know that already.
thanks for the tip
8 years?!!
**don't think about 26 year old hoses**
Tell me about it, thinking back on the hoses that were put on the washing machine when I moved into this house some 20+ years ago. Oh yeah that 5 year rated water heater that's pushing 15 years and I've never changed out an anode rod. Well everything is in a basement, on a concrete slab that's sloped towards a floor drain so I'm good to go :D
@@Mike__B Similar here. I have racks with a few inches of floor clearance just in case anything goes. Nothing is directly on the floor.
Yeah but don't modern HE washers draw a small amount of current even when off? Won't that trick the value from closing or is there a minimum amount of current the washer has to draw in order for the value to open?
those dahl valves in that 3rd floor laundry are canadian made. woohoo. they are the best valves you can buy. and YES, i do turn off the hot and cold valves ALL the TIME.
Oh yes we do turn them off immediatelyafter we're done washing clothing! You can't say no one anymore 😁
I just have a whole house shut off that I hit whenever I leave for more than a night or so, shuts off everything so we don’t have any blow ups.
The Steel hoses that I have, have a built-in pressure regulator that if the pressure had a rapid change it will kick in and stop the water from leaking out.
Have a link? Because those sound awesome.
How come no one talks about the dishwasher or fridge supply line? Those are always presurized. Nobody shuts those valves off.
hey Richard: that laundry/bathroom looks relatively new compared to the basement. Why weren't they required by code to run a 2" stand pipe for the washer, instead of the 1-1/2" line they ran? (no permit job?)
Awesome.
How Does it release the pressure, or does it just make it so if it leaks it's limited to leaking the water in the hose?
Because even if you shut the water valve there is still "full city pressure" in the hose causing ware and tare.
(If you ever disconnected a hose head or pressure washer after turning off the hose, there is still the pressure in it.)
The tiny bit of water in the hose isn't enough to cause any major damage...just a slight annoyance.
What about the hose to the dishwasher?
can one just put a drain in the floor under the washing machine?
Yes. The washer in the video is already sitting in a drain pan.
@@oldcountryman2795 I was hoping Richard would have pointed that out.
I believe most code requires a drain under a washer pan for 2nd floor+ residential structures. Problem is, a burst hose may not necessarily land all the water into the pan itself. Still would have significant water damage.
Does it require a trap to be install??
Interesting, but many washers are now Wi-Fi enabled for remote notifications, so this power-off option would negate that feature by resetting the connection.
Also, most the leaks I’ve see from my homeowners are from the Applience itself during operation.
Best option for an upstairs laundry is to build the entire floor and back wall like a tiled shower pan
I wouldn't even consider living space laundry without a floor drain. It just isn't worth the risk. We had a leak from our LG washer last year. It turned out to be the bleach dispenser solenoid.. I disconnected the solenoid from power and the leak stopped. We didn't use the dispenser enough to justify replacing the entire solenoid unit. If I need to bleach something, I'll just pour the bleach into the tub first, load the washer and go from there.
Yep. Leaks happen during operation.
when my washer is not in use I have my valves in the off position at all times but I also come from a family of master plumbers
Wouldn’t turning the valves on and off constantly damage the valves causing them to fail?
@@kingpaco37 Old post I know, but quite the opposite. Leaving them in one position will cause them to stick. Exercising them regularly (not 100K actuations a week of course) will prolong the life and keep the packing from becoming stuck.
Looks cheaper then a whole house one.. I had a toilet lid fall down on the toilet and cracked it.. I'm was on the 2nd floor..was not home and it looked like Is Niagara Falls in the foyer when I got home
I've changed all my toilet lids to the soft-close kind. It's a nice upgrade, but there's one problem: when I go somewhere without it, it startles me when I tip the lid closed with my finger and it falls down WHAM.
My roommates hate me because I am usually pretty good about shutting the valves. But they never remember to turn them back on
What if the power goes out does the hoses get repressurized ??
it needs power to open the valve, so if you lost power it would stay closed
A solution that might be better: AMAZON Flood Safe Washing Machine Hoses With Rigid Corrugated Outer Walland Built-in Auto Shut-off Valve
Part number SHK-AQCG-5GN-024
Let’s not forget these washer hoses carry water , so that the pipes behind our walls and they don’t burst out as often as the washing machines. There should be a better way to connect. Maybe use pex or copper instead.
Why not just run Pex lines to the washing machine? Instead of using glorified garden hoses. For that matter why do washing machines still use garden hose type connectors?
Vibration/unbalanced loads.
Serviceability and vibration. Pex isn't intended to be mobile.
If you installed one of these devices, would you get a discount on your homeowner's insurance? You should , preventive maintenance.
Does it automatically shut off if the line breaks while the machine is in operation? Or is there a way to manually shut off the city water?
wondering the same thing. If this unit thinks everything is OK as long as the machine is on, that seems like a big gap.
Ours does. It recognizes the flow supposedly and shuts it down.
@@augustreil Thank you for the answer!
@@211teitake, You're welcome. From what I understand, a washer requires way less pressure and flow than a broken line would provide, so it shuts itself off. Maybe a plumber will chime in ?
I shut then off after I'm done with the wash. Every time.
While the flow of water to the washing machine will be shut off, there will still be pressure on the hose. The only way to depressurize the hose is to open the valve on the other end of the hose, inside the washing machine, by turning it on, which you can’t do because the washing machine is plugged into the new switch. 🤔
We have a weekend house where we shut off the water when we are not there. After we shut the water off, we open the faucets to depressurize the system. Unless I am mistaken, it seems that this switch will not do that.
The valve is going to shut the hose off from city water pressure. It will still be pressurized, but it will only contain the limited amount of water between the wall and the back of the unit. If the hose fails, the damage will be minor since there’s not much water there.
@@BitmappedWV Yes. Understood. However, he said several times that the hose will be depressurized. It will not. The hose will last longer if it is depressurized.
@@a921dji3 I just replaced a W/D that was 28 years old. Same hoses since install. Only time I had water on the floor was when someone tried to put a large comforter in and the incoming water in the tub spilled into the floor. Otherwise nothing. The hoses were still decent when removed. Like others I never shut off the valve in almost 30 years, and they did leak a little at the packing nut when I shut them off (and I had to use a cutting tool to remove the connector at the hose). Otherwise no issues. Not typical or expected but hoses don't just rupture for no reason. Replace your hoses on a schedule and you probably never see a newer WD last 30 years.
Hello I'm a Appliance technician by trade and This safety shut off valve is great idea..BUT IT DOESN'T WORK ON CERTAIN WASHERS MODELS,due to the way they work on start up..the water doesn't come in continuous and instead they pulsates income,which shuts down that safety valve (valve thinks there's a leak,unless manufacturer has changed that feature)..customer calls for a problem service on washer and this valve ends up being the major problem. I've seen it several times..so PLEASE LOOK INTO THE MODEL YOUR BUYING BEFORE U SPEND ALL THAT MONEY!!!!!ALSO THEY HAVE ANTI FLOOD WASHER AND DISHWASHER HOSES WITH A SAFTEY CHECK VALVE..ANOTHER GREAT IDEA,BUT IF THE WATER PRESSURE VERY HIGH IN THE HOUSE..IT WILL STOP THE WATER FROM GOING INTO THE UNIT AND THERE'S NO LEAK COMING FROM THE HOSES AT ALL
OK GREAT TIP THANKS
I don't get it. What's different between a washer hose and the hoses you have under every sink and toilet... Nobody turns those on and off. They're no different.
What I understand is that washing machine hoses go through a lot of stress due to vibrations cause by dry spin cycle and therefore fail at the end. The hoses under sink and toilet are not subject to vibration
The hoses are wider and will flood the area a lot quicker.
Well, lots of times they are different. They are often just rubber hoses. Still, my last apartment flooded due to a bad connection at the toilet, so you're probably on to something.
What others have said and also size of the hoses toilets, and sinks. Usually use 3/8 lines washing machine use 3/4 lines. Wich both could cause issues if they burst. If your home at the time of failure the sink an toilet will do little to no damage. But a washing machine will do damage regardless if you are home or not. Imagine it this way constantly pouring a 5 gallon jug of water over your head, compared to pouring a small cup of water over your head.
@@hotrodpaully1 toilet and sinks will still cause a huge amount of damage. It's still full city water pressure behind them.
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Yeah until the valve blows lol lol..
But why is this only important on the washing machine?
Put the washer in the garage?
@@Kevin-mp5of Did you not notice the "?" in your haste to make your smarty pants comment. :-)
This Old Full City Water Pressure
Full city water pressure is coming at you!
So a whopping 22psi in my case.
No. No. NO! You just added another failure point to the system and replaced metal spigots with plastic. Sure those metal hoses are depressurized. And the pressure is now held by a Chinese manufactured plastic valve in the wall.
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My neighbors upstairs in my apartment flooded my laundry room “twice” because they didn’t had they washing machine hooked up properly. 🤬
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Or you just replace your cheap rubber hoses with stainless steel braided hoses
1:56 Think every house or apartment should use that gadget but one other trick is don't overload washing machine which helps aswell.
the hell are you talking about? that makes zero sense.
@@jankyj2269 : I was saying don't overload the washing machine with a bunch of clothes
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I never turn off the valves. Never will. Nor will a trust an active system like this depending on electronics. You know this crap will fail soon.
someone needs to take some hedge trimmers to richard's eye brows
washimachine
More crap to buy, yeah I don’t think so!!!!
I’ll stick with my stainless braided hoses.
those will fail over time too
watching richard use pex is just not right
Hate speed queen
I assume you are talking about the Washer/Dryer, and not Richard
I assume you mean the new 2018-present models because they are godawful! Even I hope that is Richard's Speed Queen and that he's a fan of them.
why not just turn off your hot and cold water valve after your finished using the washing machine. people are just lazy
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This device should be mandatory in the building code .