@@ninjaguyYT they will never stop worshipping that damn show. Hell I’m surprised they say anything considering how much of a dumpster fire the ending was
A far bigger regret should be getting Lalo out on bail by concealing his real identity and his cartel connections. Jimmy even showed up in court with a fake family for Lalo. As a result of Lalo being on the loose I count at least 20 deaths that he was directly responsible for, including Howard. In my opinion getting a monster like Lalo out of prison by lying to the court was by far Jimmy's worst and most unforgivable sin.
but what choice did he have at this point? It's not like he could completely control how to act with the cartel. Chuck's insurance was 100% his decision, unlike working for Lalo
No. In that case, the far bigger regret should be deciding to be a criminal rather than keep struggling. You've got to remember that Jimmy got in contact with the cartel after he tried to scam the abuelita from the Salamanca family.
To be fair he didn't have much of a choice in that. So I think yes, this is a regret of his, but since he didn't have a choice, I would assume his core regret is getting involved with the cartel in season one to begin with
I think Jimmy and Kim are responsible for Howard's death, but for a slightly different reason. It's not that Howard was at the wrong place at the wrong time because of them (after all, in an alternate universe where they were all friends, they could've just invited him for dinner), but that _Lalo_ was. That's the real reason Howard got killed - because Jimmy associated with a murderous psycopath.
Yes, but Kim knew Lalo was alive and didn't tell Jimmy. If she had, they probably wouldn't have stayed in that apartment, let alone leave the door open.
Also Howard is usually pretty professional and wouldn't usually come a-knocking on people's doors that late at night (I can't remember if the episode showed us what time it was when Howard and Lalo showed up, but considering Lalo was comfortable coming out of his hiding place, we can assume it was pretty late in the night). Whereas because of Kim and Jimmy's scheme against him, he came to call them out that very night, probably on a whim.
Oh my gaaaah I was SO sad seeing Howard making coffee for his wife and making a peace sign in it and she just dumps it in her cup and makes a mess and says she’s having dinner w their friends without him. Poor Howard, after season 1 I was like man this guy is the true hero of the show.
@@HeatherHolthis wife was a real piece of shit… what I have learned in my older age is treat people accordingly you don’t treat somebody that is kind and nice like a piece of shit like she did with him totally wrong
You could easily argue that Jimmy should've learned his lesson long before the chuck insurance fiasco. To quote Chuck: "HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!" Jimmy has a loooong history of petty acts of spite, and revenge that spin out into horrible consequences.
He did learn his lesson though. During season 1 of Better Call Saul we constantly see Jimmy trying to go legit and legal, and only meeting disappointment and failure. Meanwhile, any time he breaks the law, he is rewarded. That is until the Sandpiper case, he finally sees success in his legal career. It’s all looking up for Jimmy, it even seems like he might finally get a job at HHM, but no. Chuck sabotages him once again, believing he isn’t capable of change. When everybody’s telling you that you’ll never change, it’s hard to change.
@@mariusdamchristophersen1453 I disagree. Remember when Jimmy was made a partner in a respectable law firm, but then started to act out in hoped of getting fired, while keeping his bonus? Jimmy always looked for a con, an angle he could work with, a way to mess with people. He never wanted the safe, ordinary, respectable life Chuck had.
@@MrBell-iq3sm I think the acting out was partially due to frustration from being frozen out of his actual dream, working with his brother. When you’re told that you’re slippin’ jimmy by the person you admire the most, you might start acting like slippin jimmy
I really love how you’re these analysis you’ve been doing. It’s nice to look back at Jimmy/Saul’s biggest regret and to even think what could have happened had he just talked to Chuck instead of having the same conversation over and over as Chuck said. Keep up the great work man, I hope you’re doing well and have a great rest of your day!
"What is Jimmy's worst regret?" I mean ... without the Skateboarders there would be no Tuco, thherefore no Nacho, therefore no Lalo, therefore no dead Howard, therefore no Heisenberg support.
It's not unreasonable to assume, Jesse would have found a different criminal lawyer, which would have helped Walt in his endeavors. Saul taking credit for the entire Heisenberg operation is like Walt taking credit for the Gus operation, or maybe even Gray Matter unitl he died.
Bob Odenkirk himself said that he acted it with the intent that after mentioning his brother and getting a reaction from her he then in the moment decided to do it. No premeditation.
I think jimmys worst sin was making that old lady’s friends hate her. And then she cried … I was so upset at Jimmy for pretending to be her friend and then going behind her back and talking smack about her to her friends. What a sicko-why do I just adore him 😅
Chuck didn't kill himself over the insurance. He relapsed because he told Jimmy that he never really mattered to him. Chucks "condition" always got worse when he had issues with Jimmy. Chuck was still doing fairly well when dealing with Howard and after his "retirement". It was only when Chuck permanently destroyed his relationship with Jimmy that he totally lost it.
Jimmy even indirectly confirms that he messed with Chuck's insurance in the moment in 613 when he says "I saw an opportunity to hurt him and I took it"
I think Jimmy is only partially blame for Chuck's death. Chuck is the one who was attached to the law THAT much. He really never had a life outside of it even before the allergy to electricity. Edit: Also Chuck could've not taken the firing so personally. And let's not forget that if he didn't hate his brother so much, Chuck wouldn't have melted down in court to begin with.
Just because he doesn't have a life outside the law doesn't make it "his fault." Jimmy is well aware of Chuck's attachment to the law, and he took advantage in what turned out to be an extreme measure. However, you can argue that Chuck's vendetta against Jimmy (assuming you believe Jimmy really could've been a stand-up citizen, I think so but am not that confident) is what really started the conflict, so he certainly has some blame. I'd give it like a 75 Jimmy 25 Chuck
I feel sorry for Chuck, always being the good kid and everyone preferred his brother who did some shitty things. I'd probably hate my sibling in that sitiation. He must have suffered a lot to burn himself on purpose. He probably felt Jimmy didn't deserve the good life he had, Jimmy had Kim and Chuck lost his love, Jimmy became a lawyer after doing illegal things, Chuck saved him from prison... Chuck was lonely and the "allergy" happen and destroyed his life. I felt sorry for Jimmy too in the first seasons, but he wasn't the best person.
Keep the discussions coming! Love ur analysis! Yes Jimmy had to get the regret of Chuck's insurance off his chest and let Kim know so she didn't feel all the burden. Jimmy wanted a fresh start with no more regrets but also credit for making Walter White everything he had become. Great job VividKiwi!
I think its interesting that this moment was so impactful to the series and many characters lives, and yet it wasn't given much attention. the scene was fairly short, no indicators that it was majorly important. It was barely ever mentioned again. but it was the moment that spun everything out of control
I would love a “did Jimmy really redeem himself” video, your analysis videos are really good Kiwi! Personally, in retrospect I’m sympathetic towards Chuck. He’s been working so hard, all to be ignored and barely noticed by those he loved. He was hurt time and time again because of Jimmy, wether directly or indirectly. I don’t know if I could keep in touch with a sibling like that myself, but I still am critical of how he got out of his way to actively sabotage Jimmy. That, to me, is horrible. However, not irredeemable. Howard was a very fun character to follow, just like Patrick Fabian, he had a decency to him under the corporate exterior that I really enjoyed to watch. His death was heartbreaking and I still think about it from time to time. I definitely agree with you, the insurance company scheme was the catalyst. You could technically go back to the “wolves & sheep” guy from the McGill’s store, but I think that at that point there was still hope for Jimmy (as demonstrated by his self redemption post the Chicago sunroof incident), unlike how the insurance company scheme started a horrible snowball affect. Great video as usual 💜
As I see it, Jimmy didn't exactly say what he did to win Kim over in the finale. I think he wanted to show her that changing for the better is worth it because it inspires others to do so as well. It's crystal clear he wouldn't have admitted fault unless he had heard that she came around and confessed.
I see the finale of S6 as a "3:10 to Yuma" moment. He decides to face justice to gain redemption when he could easily continue to get off easy. He gives justice to Kim, Chuck, Howard, and Walter's victims.
Kim and Jimmy can “learn their lesson” about Howard through guilt, as we all blame ourselves for things we didn’t necessarily cause, but I find it completely ridiculous as a third party, the audience, to blame them for Howard’s death. What they ACTUALLY did to him was truly evil. No need to pretend they’re bad for not taking a cosmically unlikely coincidence (that both Jimmy and Kim believed to be impossible) into account too.
Jimmy should have learned this lesson when he emptied his stomach into the sunroof of an SUV on innocent children. Chuck stopped him from suffering the consequences of being petty and vindictive, so Chuck is responsible for bringing jimmy's destruction into Albuquerque.
I believe Jimmy had changed his legal license name when he got reinstated as a lawyer was to beat the legal cost fees rising over suspension. Better late plans. Go Saul aka Jimmy.
And no way... that Kim and Jimmy are responsibly for Howard's death in anyway. It was Howard's choice to go there. Jimmy thought Lalo was dead. Howard was at the wrong place at the wrong time -- that doesn't make it Jimmy and Kim's fault.
I fully think that Jimmy went to the insurance company with the ONLY goal in mind being to raise Chuck's malpractice insurance rate. Jimmy would've known going in that insurance companies don't do refunds, and that they don't pause plans until you need them. To be sure, he was in a vulnerable place because of money, but he's not stupid. He made sure that she pulled up Chuck's file before she pulled up his (Charles comes befpre James alphabetically, so simply saying McGill would being up Chuck's file first). Jimmy was angry, and he wanted to hurt Chuck. He knew the dominoes would fall and that HHM would pressure him to retire over this. But, much like the 1216/1261 thing, I think Jimmy underestimated just how severely Chuck would react to this. I don't think that Jimmy knew that Chuck would kill himself. It was one of many unintended but nontheless extreme unforseen consequences of his actions.
I agree with you on episode 607 in regards to who's to blame for Howard's death. Yes, Lalo is the one who pulled the trigger, and from a legal & literal standpoint, Lalo killed poor Howard. However, not only was it due to Kim & Jimmy's messing with Howard that put him there, but Jimmy getting involved with Lalo is also what brought Lalo there in the first place. I get people wanting to defend Kim & Jimmy- after all these years it's hard not to love them & want to defend them. However, you can still love someone while realizing their flaws. I would say it's equally Kim, Jimmy, & Lalo's fault that Howard died. In regards to Jimmy redeeming himself in the finale: I would say it started with trying to get Kim to like him again but ended with him be honest to truly becoming Jimmy again. I don't think there's anything that can truly forgive him for all that he's done, but cleaning his conscience on the record is probably the closest he can get.
No, by that flawed logic Howards death was caused by the liquor store clerk who sold him the booze which encouraged Howard to get drunk and show up there that night, you might as well blame his wife and everyone else Howard had contact with in his lifetime since it ultimately added up to Howard ending up in that moment. Jimmy and Kim never asked him to come over at that time and had no idea Lalo was even there. They had no intent or knowledge that the event would take place, so to blame them is absurd and wrong.
@@user-mq4xp1gq3q They knew he was going to come over. When he knocked on the door one asked about not letting him in & the other said to do so. Also, there's a massive difference between the drinking (which on its own wouldn't have killed him) & what they did. It is, in fact, a chain reaction. They didn't set out to kill Howard, but Howard would not have had a reason to come over if they didn't destroy both the case & his reputation in the first place. Even the creators said they agreed with Jimmy & Kim having blame for what happened (which I found out after I formed my take on it). Of course, TV shows should be open to interpretation & I can partly see your take on it, but I think respecting each other's views on it would be the best approach.
@@frogfoot89 Alcohol alone could have killed him, either by alcohol poisoning or DUI accident. You can't reasonably deny the alcohol helped motivate him. You fail to see the irony of your own argument, Jimmy and Kims action alone wouldn't have killed him, it was because Howard went over there uninvited and Lalo chose to shoot him, both actions were due to their own accord. If someone gets shot at a Walmart, then by your logic it was also Walmart's fault they got shot for 'being open'? That logic and argument is nonsense. So what if they suspected it was him knocking? They had no reason not to see what he wanted. You're also leaving out the fact they never invited him there and even insisted and outright asked him to leave several times before Lalo's presence was even known, and then again after his presence was known. Clearly they didn't want him there and tried to protect him once they realized Lalo was there.
@@user-mq4xp1gq3q Ironically you're failing to see the flaws in your argument as you're comparing unrelated situations. Would Howard have been drinking if that didn't happen? Would he have come over? No, he would not. If he died from the drinking directly Jimmy & Kim still would've been an indirect cause. You can say what Jimmy put on the photos to make Howard act as he did in that meeting is still on Howard for his own behavior, but would he have done that otherwise? No, he would not. The point is the chain reaction to events and how one led to another. Jimmy & Kim didn't want Howard to die, but if they didn't spend that time destroying his career, none of it would've happened. Same with why Lalo came over. If they didn't get involved with Lalo or cut it off before Jimmy went to pick up the money then that chain reaction wouldn't have happened either. There's also a difference between Lalo coming over at that time and someone being at Walmart during a shooting. Lalo didn't come over with the intention to rob or shoot anyone, whereas if someone went into Walmart and shot someone they almost definitely would've had that intention. Yes, Howard sadly was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but due to the chain reaction he wouldn't have been drinking or came over if they didn't do their plan to ruin his reputation. If you want me to outline every detail that led to both of them coming over I could, but I don't think that's going to change your perspective and there's nothing you're going to say that's going to change mine. The most I can say is consider watching the show from the beginning to see how the chain reaction of events all led to Jimmy becoming Saul- including Howard being shot by Lalo as that's the climax of the Jimmy timeline of the show.
@@frogfoot89 This idea that you think it's Jimmy and Kims fault due to a "chain reaction" I just don't buy, because it irrationally undermines Howard's and Lalo's freewill and ability to choose to operate on their own accord and take personal responsibility for their own decision making. If you do accept this chain reaction idea then you would literally have to also blame everyone else Howard ever came into contact with in his entire lifetime, no matter how seemingly small or insignificant the interaction, since those interactions ultimately influenced him in some way to end up in that situation. I don't buy that at all, just like I don't buy that it was their fault for opening the door to see what Howard wanted. Those are poor irrational arguments. The fact is that Howard could have chosen not to make the series of decisions that led to him showing up there at that particular time, but he chose not to, just like he chose not leave after he was asked multiple times to leave before and after Lalo's presence was known. Both Howard and Lalo was not lured or asked to come there by Jimmy or Kim, and Jimmy and Kim clearly had no control over that situation and makes no sense to blame them for what other people chose to do. Howards fate was not the fault of Jimmy or Kim, but was solely Lalo's for choosing to commit the act on his own accord.
24:45 I love ambiguity, however one cannot ignore the roll Jimmy and Kim played in Howard’s death. The disapproval on Mikes face after the long night that was “Point and Shoot” clearly indicates how the audience should feel toward jimmy and Kim.
Of everything that the Heisenberg cartel did wrong, Drew Sharpe's death was by far the worst and Jimmy KNEW about it (and advised Jesse not to pay off his parents). I kept hoping at some point we would see some other true victims. Marie wasn't really a victim nor was Hank and Gomey. They were in the game. Better or worse they were in the game. I was glad Howard got closure even many years later, but I wanted to see Drew Sharpe's parents or maybe even Mike's daughter in law and granddaughter get something too.
He didn't know about it, except that Jesse wanted to give the family money. He said he didn't want to know why. He pointed out it would raise questions, that's all. And I'm not sure the family would have wanted drug money.
I always thought it was in the moment, as he spent part of the episode focused on trying to get his money back. However, over time from fan debate & thinking about how Jimmy was always amazing at long-term planning and had difficulty thinking on his feet, I started seeing the possibility that maybe it was premeditated. I'm glad you did this video, as even though I always saw the domino effect from the insurance, due to this video I saw the parallel between how Jimmy was in the insurance scene in 307 and how Gene was with the security guard covering for Jeff in 610. In both cases he had similar pauses to really think through what he was going to say, showing that thinking on his feet isn't his natural skill but once he has a moment to think he can do it.
I agree with you, I think it was in the moment too. Jimmy never screwed over persons on purpose unless there was some benefit in it, but here it didn't serve him anything well, he was just frustrated in the moment.
Very neat vid! Just a little critique, try and tighten up your scripting a bit. You state and restate yourself more than a few times, it can make the video seem overly long when it’s honestly a pretty simple point.
I always try to clarify myself just to make sure people understand what I’m saying, but I get how that can come across as redundant. Thanks for the comment!
I don't think that Jimmy went to the insurance company intending to throw Chuck under the bus, but being the ever-thinking-on-his-feet kind of guy that he is, I think the idea came to him right there in the insurance office and he saw an opportunity then to strike out at Chuck so he took it. You can tell by the look on his face when he leaves the office: at first he's angry and then he kind of nods his head knowingly like, "Got him!" And then smiles as he walks away. Oh Jimmy, so much pain...
Another great video! Just one minor “wtf”: I find it hard to believe that anyone who watches BrBa/BCS can’t handle the word “kill”. Yes, I am talking about “unalive himself”.
Blame advertisers… that’s the only reason any of these creators do it. It’s not worth the risk of losing ad money because you said one word they don’t like
Here's the problem with saying the term "indirectly responsible". It's called the butterfly effect. You can do bad things for with good intentions, bad things with bad intentions.....and here's the kicker....you can do good things with good intentions.....no matter what....in reality, there is always a possibility of it affecting someone in a negative way. Everything you do in life while interacting with the world impacts other's lives even in the smallest way. Jimmy was in the wrong....but it was a lot of crap brought on by chucks actions. And was a long line of bad scenarios brought on by a lot of different people. That's life. But this was a ton of extreme circumstances that made for fantastic drama on a TV show.
I love how Mike never talks to Jimmy directly about his brother, but it’s clear that he can see that Jimmy is riddled with guilt and is desperate to keep his mind occupied, to the point where it sometimes compromises his judgement. It even seems like Mike is dealing with his own guilt for contributing to Jimmys actions that Chuck saw as reason to end his life.
Don’t forget Bob was a writer on SNL, the Simpsons and had an wild sketch comedy show. I’ve been a huge fan for a long time and when he showed up as Saul in breaking bad I was pleasantly surprised.
Really those insurance companies are the real villains of the show. Not only are they incompetent, they’ll severely drain you of all finance over a mistake.
The most interesting thing about Jimmy is how he uses his real emotions to pull his cons, aside from his blatant slipping jimmy stuff, his biggest plans and cons involve using his real life issues and emotions to move peoples thoughts elsewhere, manipulating them by making them think they ARE being manipulated while that is indeed part of the manipulation. It's like Chuck says, he puts on a whole show and sob story about regrets, but he never denies the show being true and Jimmy really feeling like that, but it's used as part of the act, which makes the lines so blurry for those he cons and us the audience, hell even himself at times.
7:02 is all you needa see to confirm it was premeditated. Plus, there is a zero percent chance Jimmy would ever vent his real emotions to someone unless for ulterior motives. He did the same thing with Frank the security guard in the gene timeline. Edit: welp, I got proven wrong lmao
I think Once Jimmy heard his insurance would go up 150 percent that’s when he made the decision to screw over chuck which really was the beginning of the end
And another worst regret jimmy/ Saul had was when he decided to accept Lalo's open offer to retrieve and deliver lalo's bound money from the cousins and then he become the "cartel's friend" Greed made him do it even though Kim already had a bad feeling and told him not to, but jimmy kept insisting and convinced her not to worry, and we know what happened next. Not only he nearly lost his life in a shoot out with the cartel mercenaries and in the desert, he also makes Lalo the person he should never mess with, become suspicious with what really happened in the desert. It makes lalo go back to Albuquerque, search for the truth and finally found out where jimmy and Kim lived. And I think you should cover this Side of story in the future. Every jimmy decision throughout the series is a butterfly effect that leads to the climaxes when Lalo kill Howard. If jimmy never took that offer from Lalo and cut ties with the cartel, he probably could save Howard's life, since jimmy never involved in the shootout in the desert, Lalo never suspicious with jimmy and never find out where he live.
Thanks Kiwi! I love how you use the word "unalived" instead of "killed." We've been trying to get our Facebook BCS Fan Group members to do this. Enjoyed this video. Keep 'em coming. I miss the show so much.
Can you explain? I honestly thought the only reason he said "unalive" is so the UA-cam algorithm doesn't deprioritize his video for including "adult content" (algorithm detecting the word "kill" = might demonetize vid)
@@whirlwind872 I'm not sure how it works on UA-cam & honestly thought Kiwi might just be fooling around. I do know that Facebook doesn't like that word because it has a violent connotation. We ask people in our Group to not use it and come up with creative alternatives. Maybe Kiwi can explain himself.
Kiwi, every time I get a new video, I wish I had time to binge rewatch season 6, which I still have all episodes of on my DVR, except 1&2. This was such a astute analysis. Bob Odenkirk ‘really chewed the scenery’ here and there. I MUST find the video that explains the truth about his breakdown. I did manage to keep ‘Lantern’ too😂
The one thing that always captured me about this scene, that no one else seems to discuss, is the background outside that window. It seems so out of place. Where is this building? In the middle of nowhere? It just doesn't seem to fit the general setting of the offices in this show. Most are in the city, clearly in buildings surrounded by other structures. Yes, I get that it's New Mexico and there is a lot of dessert, but this just "doesn't seem right." What office building has that desolate of a location? And with the huge bay windows, it seems like they're intentionally trying to show us this vast dessert landscape. There has to be some message here... I just do not really have a good answer.
Hey Kiwi, Just wanted to thank you for all your thoughtful videos on BCS/BB up to this point. You were spot-on with your analyses throughout the run of the show, and your videos were a great way to prepare for new episodes. I know you have a few more videos to catch up on to complete the collection, but it saddens me to think that your UA-cam niche as the "Better Call Saul guy" might dry up as the show gets further into the rear view mirror. I see you used to make Walking Dead videos, but you didn't the kind of views with those shows that your BCS stuff did. I hope that the creative team behind BCS/BB is able to stick together and work on something new and interesting that merits the kind of viewing style that supports these kind of discussion videos. Otherwise, I hope you're able to pivot to some other shows that warrant you and your subscribers' attention, because it would be a shame if you stopped making videos. Thank you again!
I think the reason he had insurance with that company is because he knew HHM covered by them, was probably recommended by Howard to get covered by them. Kim was likely insured by them too
Yeah, I personally don't care about what Jimmy did. IMO Chuck had it coming. He was a terrible brother, and he said himself that Jimmy didn't really matter to him.
Premeditation can be done instantly apparently says Bruce Rivers. So yeah, the moment the lady said Charles McGill Jimmy could have decided then. It doesn't matter.
whenever I first watched Howard's death scene, I thought that he called Lalo in himself somehow and was playing dumb when he asked if he was interrupting something. Then he got his brains blown out so there went that theory.
I think the regret scenes in season 6 with Mike and Walt are to lead up to the scene between Jimmy and Chuck. This scene was Jimmys “regret” that he never spoke to Mike and Walt about because he could’ve accepted Chucks help to get out. An obviously he chose a different path. Loved this video! Was so great to hear someone talk about how great Howard was throughout the series.
I wasn't a fan of Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul back in 2017, but the premeditated stance doesn't make much sense, since Jimmy was always too good a schemer to rely on a 50-50 coin toss that saying "McGill" would lead to her initially assuming he was Chuck.
Jimmy definitely knew Chuck had the same insurance. Jimmy picked up all of Chuck's mail and handled an insane amount of most all of his work, for over a year. Jimmy gets the idea to do it once the lady answers that his malpractice insurance was going to go way up. Even without any insurance renewal forms arriving that Chuck would at least have to sign, it is confirmed that Chuck has the same insurance when she says his name, while looking through the database... That right there confirmed it. You could make the argument about him only saying his last name as McGill, but that seems too far reaching. Jimmy has always been a small-time con man. Jimmy figured he could talk his way out of the fee. He's can be very good at it like with Tuco, but he's not Saul Goodman yet. He can't make miracles yet, usually with underhanded plays, but he can still do some things. The idea to deliberatly mess with not just Chuck's, but HHM insurance, was just Jimmy thinking quick on his feet for some revenge. He saw an opportunity, and he took it. We have plenty of backstory about Jimmy making impulsive decisions, such as the Chicago sunroof. The insurance was just another. The show is full of one event leading into another. Isn't that the point throughout BB and BCS? That one evil decision leads to another, and that they get progessively worse? It's the way I've always seen it. An example being how Walt decided to let Jane die and being broken up about it and feeling guilt, all the way to Walt simply deciding that killing the 10 guys in prison was a necessary and practical decision
The biggest lesson here is that, as an insurance agent, you NEVER volunteer information. If she had simply said “and the first name?” rather than volunteer Chucks name, none of this would have happened.
I feel like the scene when jimmys ripping into Howard when he's beaten in the office is, In my opinion more when saul comes out and he thinks that's the way to make things right by making he's hate to jimmy fire him up to do better, kinda how Saul deals with things as the series progress an what makes him get on the path to becoming saul in the first place.
Chuck died, then Howard.. butJimmy/Saul/Gene never felt guilt for either of them. Kim did, for both - and because she could not move past that, as she acknowledged her role in both men ending up dead, she left Jimmy.
The show is written by a team. Tom isn’t the be-all-end-all. He’s asking the insurance company to do something outrageous and illegal that he knows they would never agree to. Thus, he wasn’t there for the reason he stated. He was there for Chuck.
One day we’ll wake up, brush our teeth and go to work and at some point we’ll suddenly realise we haven’t stopped thinking about the show
Yeah true
It wasn’t breaking bad or got though
@@prestonspears6078 I thought you people finally stopped worshipping games and thrones.
@@ninjaguyYT they will never stop worshipping that damn show. Hell I’m surprised they say anything considering how much of a dumpster fire the ending was
@@ninjaguyYT what do you mean by you people
you're telling me a man's malpractice insurance rate just _happens_ to go up like that. no, he orchestrated it! Jimmy!
HE MENTIONED CHUCK TO THE OFFICE LADY!
He’ll never change! Ever since he was 9 always the same, couldn’t keep his hands out of malpractice insurance
@@fearlessduck1773 STEALING THEM BLIND
HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!!
WHAT A SICK JOKE! I SHOULDVE STOPPED HIM WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE
I cant get over how well howards acting is. U can tell This is the last thing he wanted to do with chuck. Those eyes
Yeah Patrick fabian is an amazing actor
That final scene of 401 breaks me every time I revisit it for a video lol
And Jimmy just barrages him, what a dick.
I love how when Jimmy drops Chuck's name, nobody even seems to recognize it. Jimmy was finally out of Chuck's shadow.
That's a good point.
Unlike almost everyone else in the show Chuck had no connection to The Cartel.
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@@alanpennie8013Howard too but he was in the wrong place and in the wrong time
I guess they renamed the firm to Sneed's Legal, hence why they don't know Chuck.
I love how Jimmy proved chuck wrong in the end. He finally changed.
Chuck in heaven:
“WHAT A SICK JOKE!!”
@@yitoproductions Chuck is in heaven..
after what he tried to do to Jimmy??!!!??
@@pauls7863 what did he try to do to Jimmy? Be honest with him? Everything chuck said was right about him.
after proving him right, that he will ruin everyone else’s life around him
@@RustyRants and he’s partly responsible
A far bigger regret should be getting Lalo out on bail by concealing his real identity and his cartel connections. Jimmy even showed up in court with a fake family for Lalo. As a result of Lalo being on the loose I count at least 20 deaths that he was directly responsible for, including Howard. In my opinion getting a monster like Lalo out of prison by lying to the court was by far Jimmy's worst and most unforgivable sin.
but what choice did he have at this point? It's not like he could completely control how to act with the cartel. Chuck's insurance was 100% his decision, unlike working for Lalo
No. In that case, the far bigger regret should be deciding to be a criminal rather than keep struggling. You've got to remember that Jimmy got in contact with the cartel after he tried to scam the abuelita from the Salamanca family.
To be fair he didn't have much of a choice in that. So I think yes, this is a regret of his, but since he didn't have a choice, I would assume his core regret is getting involved with the cartel in season one to begin with
To be fair, if he didn’t, the Cartel would’ve likely killed everyone Jimmy cares about, then Jimmy himself
@@no_less03 He DIDN'T try to scam Abuelita. He tried to scam someone else, and the slippin' brothers followed the wrong car.
I think Jimmy and Kim are responsible for Howard's death, but for a slightly different reason. It's not that Howard was at the wrong place at the wrong time because of them (after all, in an alternate universe where they were all friends, they could've just invited him for dinner), but that _Lalo_ was. That's the real reason Howard got killed - because Jimmy associated with a murderous psycopath.
Yes, but Kim knew Lalo was alive and didn't tell Jimmy. If she had, they probably wouldn't have stayed in that apartment, let alone leave the door open.
Also Howard is usually pretty professional and wouldn't usually come a-knocking on people's doors that late at night (I can't remember if the episode showed us what time it was when Howard and Lalo showed up, but considering Lalo was comfortable coming out of his hiding place, we can assume it was pretty late in the night). Whereas because of Kim and Jimmy's scheme against him, he came to call them out that very night, probably on a whim.
It's basically that Jimmy is at fault for Lalo and Kim is at fault for Howard.
I think Howard’s marriage issues might’ve started when Howard decided to pay Chuck 3 million out of pocket and planned to give that twice more
Oh my gaaaah I was SO sad seeing Howard making coffee for his wife and making a peace sign in it and she just dumps it in her cup and makes a mess and says she’s having dinner w their friends without him. Poor Howard, after season 1 I was like man this guy is the true hero of the show.
@@HeatherHolthis wife was a real piece of shit… what I have learned in my older age is treat people accordingly you don’t treat somebody that is kind and nice like a piece of shit like she did with him totally wrong
You could easily argue that Jimmy should've learned his lesson long before the chuck insurance fiasco. To quote Chuck: "HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!" Jimmy has a loooong history of petty acts of spite, and revenge that spin out into horrible consequences.
He did learn his lesson though. During season 1 of Better Call Saul we constantly see Jimmy trying to go legit and legal, and only meeting disappointment and failure. Meanwhile, any time he breaks the law, he is rewarded. That is until the Sandpiper case, he finally sees success in his legal career. It’s all looking up for Jimmy, it even seems like he might finally get a job at HHM, but no. Chuck sabotages him once again, believing he isn’t capable of change. When everybody’s telling you that you’ll never change, it’s hard to change.
What are the horrible consequences of a chicago sunroof!🤣
@@mariusdamchristophersen1453 I disagree. Remember when Jimmy was made a partner in a respectable law firm, but then started to act out in hoped of getting fired, while keeping his bonus?
Jimmy always looked for a con, an angle he could work with, a way to mess with people. He never wanted the safe, ordinary, respectable life Chuck had.
@@MrBell-iq3sm I think the acting out was partially due to frustration from being frozen out of his actual dream, working with his brother. When you’re told that you’re slippin’ jimmy by the person you admire the most, you might start acting like slippin jimmy
I really love how you’re these analysis you’ve been doing. It’s nice to look back at Jimmy/Saul’s biggest regret and to even think what could have happened had he just talked to Chuck instead of having the same conversation over and over as Chuck said. Keep up the great work man, I hope you’re doing well and have a great rest of your day!
"What is Jimmy's worst regret?"
I mean ... without the Skateboarders there would be no Tuco, thherefore no Nacho, therefore no Lalo, therefore no dead Howard, therefore no Heisenberg support.
It's not unreasonable to assume, Jesse would have found a different criminal lawyer, which would have helped Walt in his endeavors.
Saul taking credit for the entire Heisenberg operation is like Walt taking credit for the Gus operation, or maybe even Gray Matter unitl he died.
Bob Odenkirk himself said that he acted it with the intent that after mentioning his brother and getting a reaction from her he then in the moment decided to do it. No premeditation.
I think jimmys worst sin was making that old lady’s friends hate her. And then she cried … I was so upset at Jimmy for pretending to be her friend and then going behind her back and talking smack about her to her friends. What a sicko-why do I just adore him 😅
Thanks! Great to see new content.
Chuck didn't kill himself over the insurance. He relapsed because he told Jimmy that he never really mattered to him. Chucks "condition" always got worse when he had issues with Jimmy. Chuck was still doing fairly well when dealing with Howard and after his "retirement". It was only when Chuck permanently destroyed his relationship with Jimmy that he totally lost it.
Agreed.
I always assumed that Chuck's condition was brought on by Jimmy becoming a lawyer.
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Jimmy even indirectly confirms that he messed with Chuck's insurance in the moment in 613 when he says "I saw an opportunity to hurt him and I took it"
So glad you’re still churning out content. Thanks for feeding my Sauldrawl
I think Jimmy is only partially blame for Chuck's death. Chuck is the one who was attached to the law THAT much. He really never had a life outside of it even before the allergy to electricity.
Edit: Also Chuck could've not taken the firing so personally. And let's not forget that if he didn't hate his brother so much, Chuck wouldn't have melted down in court to begin with.
Just because he doesn't have a life outside the law doesn't make it "his fault." Jimmy is well aware of Chuck's attachment to the law, and he took advantage in what turned out to be an extreme measure. However, you can argue that Chuck's vendetta against Jimmy (assuming you believe Jimmy really could've been a stand-up citizen, I think so but am not that confident) is what really started the conflict, so he certainly has some blame. I'd give it like a 75 Jimmy 25 Chuck
I disagree Chick was such a good lawyer. A very egotistical lawyer. No one cud rival Chuck McGill. Chuck was full of himself
I feel sorry for Chuck, always being the good kid and everyone preferred his brother who did some shitty things. I'd probably hate my sibling in that sitiation. He must have suffered a lot to burn himself on purpose. He probably felt Jimmy didn't deserve the good life he had, Jimmy had Kim and Chuck lost his love, Jimmy became a lawyer after doing illegal things, Chuck saved him from prison... Chuck was lonely and the "allergy" happen and destroyed his life. I felt sorry for Jimmy too in the first seasons, but he wasn't the best person.
33:43 the way it synced with your own speech gave me a chuckle. Well done!
Keep the discussions coming! Love ur analysis! Yes Jimmy had to get the regret of Chuck's insurance off his chest and let Kim know so she didn't feel all the burden. Jimmy wanted a fresh start with no more regrets but also credit for making Walter White everything he had become. Great job VividKiwi!
Wow, your audio set up has improved tremendously since 2017. Keep up the good work. I love your videos.
Thanks again for the content. Much love, keep pumping these out!
I think its interesting that this moment was so impactful to the series and many characters lives, and yet it wasn't given much attention. the scene was fairly short, no indicators that it was majorly important. It was barely ever mentioned again. but it was the moment that spun everything out of control
I would love a “did Jimmy really redeem himself” video, your analysis videos are really good Kiwi!
Personally, in retrospect I’m sympathetic towards Chuck. He’s been working so hard, all to be ignored and barely noticed by those he loved. He was hurt time and time again because of Jimmy, wether directly or indirectly. I don’t know if I could keep in touch with a sibling like that myself, but I still am critical of how he got out of his way to actively sabotage Jimmy. That, to me, is horrible. However, not irredeemable.
Howard was a very fun character to follow, just like Patrick Fabian, he had a decency to him under the corporate exterior that I really enjoyed to watch. His death was heartbreaking and I still think about it from time to time.
I definitely agree with you, the insurance company scheme was the catalyst. You could technically go back to the “wolves & sheep” guy from the McGill’s store, but I think that at that point there was still hope for Jimmy (as demonstrated by his self redemption post the Chicago sunroof incident), unlike how the insurance company scheme started a horrible snowball affect.
Great video as usual 💜
As I see it, Jimmy didn't exactly say what he did to win Kim over in the finale. I think he wanted to show her that changing for the better is worth it because it inspires others to do so as well. It's crystal clear he wouldn't have admitted fault unless he had heard that she came around and confessed.
The amount of circular arguments in this video is pretty exhausting to be honest
Glad to have you back!
25:54 The 60-40 split would be just for the mediator con, but Lalo is there because of Jimmy
Great work, missed hearing from you.
Jimmy thinks Howard cant change but he can and Howard thinks Jimmy can change but he cant.
I see the finale of S6 as a "3:10 to Yuma" moment. He decides to face justice to gain redemption when he could easily continue to get off easy. He gives justice to Kim, Chuck, Howard, and Walter's victims.
Algorithm bump for the best BCS reviewer on UA-cam
Damn dude, I've missed your videos since the series ended 😔 hope we still got the last 2 recaps to look forward to soon. Thanks for the content 🙏
I could see Howard taking all that money out to pay Chuck out of the firm could cause tension in his marriage.
Kim and Jimmy can “learn their lesson” about Howard through guilt, as we all blame ourselves for things we didn’t necessarily cause, but I find it completely ridiculous as a third party, the audience, to blame them for Howard’s death. What they ACTUALLY did to him was truly evil. No need to pretend they’re bad for not taking a cosmically unlikely coincidence (that both Jimmy and Kim believed to be impossible) into account too.
Good to see you back VividKiwi! You were the main UA-camr I watched BCS videos with. Very smart guy with in depth analysis. Keep it up!
I'd kill to see the final episode in theaters. Still get chills watching it.
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Jimmy should have learned this lesson when he emptied his stomach into the sunroof of an SUV on innocent children. Chuck stopped him from suffering the consequences of being petty and vindictive, so Chuck is responsible for bringing jimmy's destruction into Albuquerque.
I believe Jimmy had changed his legal license name when he got reinstated as a lawyer was to beat the
legal cost fees rising over suspension. Better late plans. Go Saul aka Jimmy.
The whole of BCS is essentially just one huge domino effect that led to BB
Nice to see you back at it
Defecating through a sunroof?
And no way... that Kim and Jimmy are responsibly for Howard's death in anyway. It was Howard's choice to go there. Jimmy thought Lalo was dead. Howard was at the wrong place at the wrong time -- that doesn't make it Jimmy and Kim's fault.
Nice video man! Keep it up. This was a good perspective.
and yes a video about winning Kim over might be a good way to look at all perspectives -- I totally didn't answer the question
Excellent conclusions and fun to still be thinking about the greatest show … ever!! Yes! Let’s see a redemption question video one day!!!
I fully think that Jimmy went to the insurance company with the ONLY goal in mind being to raise Chuck's malpractice insurance rate. Jimmy would've known going in that insurance companies don't do refunds, and that they don't pause plans until you need them. To be sure, he was in a vulnerable place because of money, but he's not stupid. He made sure that she pulled up Chuck's file before she pulled up his (Charles comes befpre James alphabetically, so simply saying McGill would being up Chuck's file first).
Jimmy was angry, and he wanted to hurt Chuck. He knew the dominoes would fall and that HHM would pressure him to retire over this. But, much like the 1216/1261 thing, I think Jimmy underestimated just how severely Chuck would react to this. I don't think that Jimmy knew that Chuck would kill himself. It was one of many unintended but nontheless extreme unforseen consequences of his actions.
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I agree with you on episode 607 in regards to who's to blame for Howard's death. Yes, Lalo is the one who pulled the trigger, and from a legal & literal standpoint, Lalo killed poor Howard. However, not only was it due to Kim & Jimmy's messing with Howard that put him there, but Jimmy getting involved with Lalo is also what brought Lalo there in the first place. I get people wanting to defend Kim & Jimmy- after all these years it's hard not to love them & want to defend them. However, you can still love someone while realizing their flaws. I would say it's equally Kim, Jimmy, & Lalo's fault that Howard died.
In regards to Jimmy redeeming himself in the finale: I would say it started with trying to get Kim to like him again but ended with him be honest to truly becoming Jimmy again. I don't think there's anything that can truly forgive him for all that he's done, but cleaning his conscience on the record is probably the closest he can get.
No, by that flawed logic Howards death was caused by the liquor store clerk who sold him the booze which encouraged Howard to get drunk and show up there that night, you might as well blame his wife and everyone else Howard had contact with in his lifetime since it ultimately added up to Howard ending up in that moment. Jimmy and Kim never asked him to come over at that time and had no idea Lalo was even there. They had no intent or knowledge that the event would take place, so to blame them is absurd and wrong.
@@user-mq4xp1gq3q They knew he was going to come over. When he knocked on the door one asked about not letting him in & the other said to do so. Also, there's a massive difference between the drinking (which on its own wouldn't have killed him) & what they did. It is, in fact, a chain reaction. They didn't set out to kill Howard, but Howard would not have had a reason to come over if they didn't destroy both the case & his reputation in the first place. Even the creators said they agreed with Jimmy & Kim having blame for what happened (which I found out after I formed my take on it). Of course, TV shows should be open to interpretation & I can partly see your take on it, but I think respecting each other's views on it would be the best approach.
@@frogfoot89 Alcohol alone could have killed him, either by alcohol poisoning or DUI accident. You can't reasonably deny the alcohol helped motivate him. You fail to see the irony of your own argument, Jimmy and Kims action alone wouldn't have killed him, it was because Howard went over there uninvited and Lalo chose to shoot him, both actions were due to their own accord. If someone gets shot at a Walmart, then by your logic it was also Walmart's fault they got shot for 'being open'? That logic and argument is nonsense. So what if they suspected it was him knocking? They had no reason not to see what he wanted. You're also leaving out the fact they never invited him there and even insisted and outright asked him to leave several times before Lalo's presence was even known, and then again after his presence was known. Clearly they didn't want him there and tried to protect him once they realized Lalo was there.
@@user-mq4xp1gq3q Ironically you're failing to see the flaws in your argument as you're comparing unrelated situations. Would Howard have been drinking if that didn't happen? Would he have come over? No, he would not. If he died from the drinking directly Jimmy & Kim still would've been an indirect cause. You can say what Jimmy put on the photos to make Howard act as he did in that meeting is still on Howard for his own behavior, but would he have done that otherwise? No, he would not. The point is the chain reaction to events and how one led to another. Jimmy & Kim didn't want Howard to die, but if they didn't spend that time destroying his career, none of it would've happened. Same with why Lalo came over. If they didn't get involved with Lalo or cut it off before Jimmy went to pick up the money then that chain reaction wouldn't have happened either. There's also a difference between Lalo coming over at that time and someone being at Walmart during a shooting. Lalo didn't come over with the intention to rob or shoot anyone, whereas if someone went into Walmart and shot someone they almost definitely would've had that intention. Yes, Howard sadly was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but due to the chain reaction he wouldn't have been drinking or came over if they didn't do their plan to ruin his reputation. If you want me to outline every detail that led to both of them coming over I could, but I don't think that's going to change your perspective and there's nothing you're going to say that's going to change mine. The most I can say is consider watching the show from the beginning to see how the chain reaction of events all led to Jimmy becoming Saul- including Howard being shot by Lalo as that's the climax of the Jimmy timeline of the show.
@@frogfoot89 This idea that you think it's Jimmy and Kims fault due to a "chain reaction" I just don't buy, because it irrationally undermines Howard's and Lalo's freewill and ability to choose to operate on their own accord and take personal responsibility for their own decision making. If you do accept this chain reaction idea then you would literally have to also blame everyone else Howard ever came into contact with in his entire lifetime, no matter how seemingly small or insignificant the interaction, since those interactions ultimately influenced him in some way to end up in that situation. I don't buy that at all, just like I don't buy that it was their fault for opening the door to see what Howard wanted. Those are poor irrational arguments. The fact is that Howard could have chosen not to make the series of decisions that led to him showing up there at that particular time, but he chose not to, just like he chose not leave after he was asked multiple times to leave before and after Lalo's presence was known. Both Howard and Lalo was not lured or asked to come there by Jimmy or Kim, and Jimmy and Kim clearly had no control over that situation and makes no sense to blame them for what other people chose to do. Howards fate was not the fault of Jimmy or Kim, but was solely Lalo's for choosing to commit the act on his own accord.
I completely agree with your interpretation of this. I can't see this being premeditated at all.
24:45 I love ambiguity, however one cannot ignore the roll Jimmy and Kim played in Howard’s death. The disapproval on Mikes face after the long night that was “Point and Shoot” clearly indicates how the audience should feel toward jimmy and Kim.
Of everything that the Heisenberg cartel did wrong, Drew Sharpe's death was by far the worst and Jimmy KNEW about it (and advised Jesse not to pay off his parents). I kept hoping at some point we would see some other true victims. Marie wasn't really a victim nor was Hank and Gomey. They were in the game. Better or worse they were in the game. I was glad Howard got closure even many years later, but I wanted to see Drew Sharpe's parents or maybe even Mike's daughter in law and granddaughter get something too.
He didn't know about it, except that Jesse wanted to give the family money. He said he didn't want to know why. He pointed out it would raise questions, that's all. And I'm not sure the family would have wanted drug money.
Walt Jr also, holy shit he was a huge victim
@@skatefan9495 Saul was an accessory after the fact regarding the murders of Mike, Drew, and Hank/Gomez.
I always thought it was in the moment, as he spent part of the episode focused on trying to get his money back. However, over time from fan debate & thinking about how Jimmy was always amazing at long-term planning and had difficulty thinking on his feet, I started seeing the possibility that maybe it was premeditated. I'm glad you did this video, as even though I always saw the domino effect from the insurance, due to this video I saw the parallel between how Jimmy was in the insurance scene in 307 and how Gene was with the security guard covering for Jeff in 610. In both cases he had similar pauses to really think through what he was going to say, showing that thinking on his feet isn't his natural skill but once he has a moment to think he can do it.
Great point about his inability to think on his feet.
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The Mesa Verde switch was the domino effect
Chain reaction
I agree with you, I think it was in the moment too. Jimmy never screwed over persons on purpose unless there was some benefit in it, but here it didn't serve him anything well, he was just frustrated in the moment.
Yes! Unlike Chuck, who plotted against Jimmy over and over.
Nice work man. This makes me want to go back and watch a few episodes. :-D
Miss these videos!! Such a great time!!
Very neat vid! Just a little critique, try and tighten up your scripting a bit. You state and restate yourself more than a few times, it can make the video seem overly long when it’s honestly a pretty simple point.
I always try to clarify myself just to make sure people understand what I’m saying, but I get how that can come across as redundant. Thanks for the comment!
I am completely unsatisfied with the Howard arch. Kim is unscathed and Jimmy didn’t even admit wrongdoing and was unrepentant except to save Kim.
I don't think that Jimmy went to the insurance company intending to throw Chuck under the bus, but being the ever-thinking-on-his-feet kind of guy that he is, I think the idea came to him right there in the insurance office and he saw an opportunity then to strike out at Chuck so he took it. You can tell by the look on his face when he leaves the office: at first he's angry and then he kind of nods his head knowingly like, "Got him!" And then smiles as he walks away. Oh Jimmy, so much pain...
Another great video! Just one minor “wtf”: I find it hard to believe that anyone who watches BrBa/BCS can’t handle the word “kill”. Yes, I am talking about “unalive himself”.
Blame advertisers… that’s the only reason any of these creators do it. It’s not worth the risk of losing ad money because you said one word they don’t like
Great video, and I would definitely like to see a video debating whether Jimmy truly redeemed himself. That’s not an easy question.
Here's the problem with saying the term "indirectly responsible". It's called the butterfly effect. You can do bad things for with good intentions, bad things with bad intentions.....and here's the kicker....you can do good things with good intentions.....no matter what....in reality, there is always a possibility of it affecting someone in a negative way. Everything you do in life while interacting with the world impacts other's lives even in the smallest way. Jimmy was in the wrong....but it was a lot of crap brought on by chucks actions. And was a long line of bad scenarios brought on by a lot of different people. That's life. But this was a ton of extreme circumstances that made for fantastic drama on a TV show.
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I love how Mike never talks to Jimmy directly about his brother, but it’s clear that he can see that Jimmy is riddled with guilt and is desperate to keep his mind occupied, to the point where it sometimes compromises his judgement. It even seems like Mike is dealing with his own guilt for contributing to Jimmys actions that Chuck saw as reason to end his life.
hey man do the Season 6 tier list already... can't wait for that anymore
Don’t forget Bob was a writer on SNL, the Simpsons and had an wild sketch comedy show. I’ve been a huge fan for a long time and when he showed up as Saul in breaking bad I was pleasantly surprised.
Really those insurance companies are the real villains of the show. Not only are they incompetent, they’ll severely drain you of all finance over a mistake.
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The most interesting thing about Jimmy is how he uses his real emotions to pull his cons, aside from his blatant slipping jimmy stuff, his biggest plans and cons involve using his real life issues and emotions to move peoples thoughts elsewhere, manipulating them by making them think they ARE being manipulated while that is indeed part of the manipulation. It's like Chuck says, he puts on a whole show and sob story about regrets, but he never denies the show being true and Jimmy really feeling like that, but it's used as part of the act, which makes the lines so blurry for those he cons and us the audience, hell even himself at times.
7:02 is all you needa see to confirm it was premeditated. Plus, there is a zero percent chance Jimmy would ever vent his real emotions to someone unless for ulterior motives. He did the same thing with Frank the security guard in the gene timeline.
Edit: welp, I got proven wrong lmao
Hey kid named finger, congrats on passing the bar, you are the greatest legal mind I have ever known
I think Once Jimmy heard his insurance would go up 150 percent that’s when he made the decision to screw over chuck which really was the beginning of the end
And another worst regret jimmy/ Saul had was when he decided to accept Lalo's open offer to retrieve and deliver lalo's bound money from the cousins and then he become the "cartel's friend"
Greed made him do it even though Kim already had a bad feeling and told him not to, but jimmy kept insisting and convinced her not to worry, and we know what happened next.
Not only he nearly lost his life in a shoot out with the cartel mercenaries and in the desert, he also makes Lalo the person he should never mess with, become suspicious with what really happened in the desert.
It makes lalo go back to Albuquerque, search for the truth and finally found out where jimmy and Kim lived.
And I think you should cover this
Side of story in the future. Every jimmy decision throughout the series is a butterfly effect that leads to the climaxes when Lalo kill Howard. If jimmy never took that offer from Lalo and cut ties with the cartel, he probably could save Howard's life, since jimmy never involved in the shootout in the desert, Lalo never suspicious with jimmy and never find out where he live.
Thanks Kiwi! I love how you use the word "unalived" instead of "killed." We've been trying to get our Facebook BCS Fan Group members to do this. Enjoyed this video. Keep 'em coming. I miss the show so much.
Can you explain? I honestly thought the only reason he said "unalive" is so the UA-cam algorithm doesn't deprioritize his video for including "adult content" (algorithm detecting the word "kill" = might demonetize vid)
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@@whirlwind872 I'm not sure how it works on UA-cam & honestly thought Kiwi might just be fooling around. I do know that Facebook doesn't like that word because it has a violent connotation. We ask people in our Group to not use it and come up with creative alternatives. Maybe Kiwi can explain himself.
@@I_am_Junebug shooting a character in the head is a violent action
@@TheButterAnvil it sure is!
Kiwi, every time I get a new video, I wish I had time to binge rewatch season 6, which I still have all episodes of on my DVR, except 1&2.
This was such a astute analysis.
Bob Odenkirk ‘really chewed the scenery’ here and there. I MUST find the video that explains the truth about his breakdown. I did manage to keep ‘Lantern’ too😂
The one thing that always captured me about this scene, that no one else seems to discuss, is the background outside that window. It seems so out of place. Where is this building? In the middle of nowhere? It just doesn't seem to fit the general setting of the offices in this show. Most are in the city, clearly in buildings surrounded by other structures. Yes, I get that it's New Mexico and there is a lot of dessert, but this just "doesn't seem right." What office building has that desolate of a location? And with the huge bay windows, it seems like they're intentionally trying to show us this vast dessert landscape. There has to be some message here... I just do not really have a good answer.
Hey Kiwi,
Just wanted to thank you for all your thoughtful videos on BCS/BB up to this point. You were spot-on with your analyses throughout the run of the show, and your videos were a great way to prepare for new episodes. I know you have a few more videos to catch up on to complete the collection, but it saddens me to think that your UA-cam niche as the "Better Call Saul guy" might dry up as the show gets further into the rear view mirror. I see you used to make Walking Dead videos, but you didn't the kind of views with those shows that your BCS stuff did.
I hope that the creative team behind BCS/BB is able to stick together and work on something new and interesting that merits the kind of viewing style that supports these kind of discussion videos. Otherwise, I hope you're able to pivot to some other shows that warrant you and your subscribers' attention, because it would be a shame if you stopped making videos.
Thank you again!
I think jimmy came up with the plan in the moment when he realized he could
The creator said it was a heat of the moment thing
I think the reason he had insurance with that company is because he knew HHM covered by them, was probably recommended by Howard to get covered by them. Kim was likely insured by them too
"Unaliving himself"? A new euphemism?
Gotta get that UA-cam ad revenue
Yeah, I personally don't care about what Jimmy did. IMO Chuck had it coming. He was a terrible brother, and he said himself that Jimmy didn't really matter to him.
Jimmy did something similar to this in season 6 to distract the security guard.
Premeditation can be done instantly apparently says Bruce Rivers. So yeah, the moment the lady said Charles McGill Jimmy could have decided then. It doesn't matter.
whenever I first watched Howard's death scene, I thought that he called Lalo in himself somehow and was playing dumb when he asked if he was interrupting something. Then he got his brains blown out so there went that theory.
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His regret is going back to his old self being Saul Goodman
I think the regret scenes in season 6 with Mike and Walt are to lead up to the scene between Jimmy and Chuck. This scene was Jimmys “regret” that he never spoke to Mike and Walt about because he could’ve accepted Chucks help to get out. An obviously he chose a different path. Loved this video! Was so great to hear someone talk about how great Howard was throughout the series.
I wasn't a fan of Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul back in 2017, but the premeditated stance doesn't make much sense, since Jimmy was always too good a schemer to rely on a 50-50 coin toss that saying "McGill" would lead to her initially assuming he was Chuck.
Jimmy definitely knew Chuck had the same insurance. Jimmy picked up all of Chuck's mail and handled an insane amount of most all of his work, for over a year. Jimmy gets the idea to do it once the lady answers that his malpractice insurance was going to go way up. Even without any insurance renewal forms arriving that Chuck would at least have to sign, it is confirmed that Chuck has the same insurance when she says his name, while looking through the database...
That right there confirmed it. You could make the argument about him only saying his last name as McGill, but that seems too far reaching.
Jimmy has always been a small-time con man. Jimmy figured he could talk his way out of the fee. He's can be very good at it like with Tuco, but he's not Saul Goodman yet. He can't make miracles yet, usually with underhanded plays, but he can still do some things.
The idea to deliberatly mess with not just Chuck's, but HHM insurance, was just Jimmy thinking quick on his feet for some revenge. He saw an opportunity, and he took it. We have plenty of backstory about Jimmy making impulsive decisions, such as the Chicago sunroof.
The insurance was just another.
The show is full of one event leading into another. Isn't that the point throughout BB and BCS? That one evil decision leads to another, and that they get progessively worse?
It's the way I've always seen it. An example being how Walt decided to let Jane die and being broken up about it and feeling guilt, all the way to Walt simply deciding that killing the 10 guys in prison was a necessary and practical decision
He knew because the woman he spoke with at first thought he was Charles McGill.
@@skatefan9495 everyone thought Chuck as soon as he said McGill. That's one of the reasons he changed his name, to get out from his brother's shadow
The biggest lesson here is that, as an insurance agent, you NEVER volunteer information. If she had simply said “and the first name?” rather than volunteer Chucks name, none of this would have happened.
I didn’t think this was premeditated but I think when he saw he was at another dead end said to himself, I won’t be the only in this hole.
I feel like the scene when jimmys ripping into Howard when he's beaten in the office is, In my opinion more when saul comes out and he thinks that's the way to make things right by making he's hate to jimmy fire him up to do better, kinda how Saul deals with things as the series progress an what makes him get on the path to becoming saul in the first place.
Chuck died, then Howard.. butJimmy/Saul/Gene never felt guilt for either of them. Kim did, for both - and because she could not move past that, as she acknowledged her role in both men ending up dead, she left Jimmy.
The show is written by a team. Tom isn’t the be-all-end-all. He’s asking the insurance company to do something outrageous and illegal that he knows they would never agree to. Thus, he wasn’t there for the reason he stated. He was there for Chuck.
Just seeing this clip. So howard died in 04 and walt first came to the lab 4 some years later?