McGill v. McGill: The Birth of Saul Goodman
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2022
- One of the biggest factors in turning Jimmy McGill into Saul Goodman is his relationship with Chuck. Rarely on television, have we seen a relationship so layered, mutually destructive, divisive, and at the same so real. In this video, we deep dive into Chuck and Jimmy’s stories, how they intertwined, and how they ultimately brought out the worst in each other.
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“The law is sacred.” has the same vibe as “What I do, I do for the family.”
Jimmy had to witness both BS
It's funny too because law is made up by a bunch of suits in a room who will never have to worry about the consequences of their actions so...at least in some cases the law isn't right to begin with. Not to mention the fact our justice system is ineffective. What? Someone does something bad so we put them in a metal box with others who probably did something worse so they'll never learn better behavior? So they'll be worse? Our system doesn't consider redemption possible. Good behavior is irrelevant because a lot of employers don't want convicts...and if they do something bad enough or do enough bad things they just sit in a cage their whole life? That's not fair either. Redemption and time are something the law treats like toys to be played with. And that's wrong.
@@TheOneTrueClovehitch Absolutely spot on! Chuck is the living embodiment of the American justice system, and the idea that people don’t change, redemption and rehabilitation are impossible.
@@pastlife960 You are wrong though.
Chuck is not a “living” embodiment☠️
@@TheOneTrueClovehitch Also Chuck spent the early part of his career arguing precedent and law interpretation, he would be well aware that laws change and are amended or even ignored all the fucking time. That 'law is sacred' nonsense was just bullshit.
@@jackd6881 Exactly, like they said in the video; The idea of him becoming a lawyer and Jimmy not being capable of that was sacred to Chuck. He based all of his self-esteem and self-worth around that belief. His cognitive dissonance grew as Jimmy continued to exceed expectations in passing the bar, building an independent legal practice, and building a huge multi-million dollar case that got his law partner extremely excited. Not to mention Jimmy noticed an irregularity that Chuck didn't in work they both examined that led to the SandPiper case.
The thing that always got me, was that 14K missing over a decade couldn't be the reason a business fails. It's so clear that Chuck was looking for any reason to justify his hate for Jimmy.
Not to mention the fact their dad CLEARLY hands out money to anyone who asks. Its likely that a lot of the money that Jimmy's dad lost was not because of Jimmy stealing from the register, but from him being too generous to people who exploited him
Chuck was a nutcase narcissist. Jimmy, a sociopath survivalist
@@nicholasstokes8739 Their dad was a gullible idiot who believed obvious con men.
you think thats bad? that chicanery?
I always just assumed it was 7k to jimmy and Jimmy's dad gave away 7k. That was a lot more money back then, but chuck was definitely just looking for something to hate Jimmy for
When Jimmy busted into Chuck's house to destroy the tape and ends up waiting on the curb for the police, Chuck stood outside over him lecturing him without any symptoms. That's important to this evaluation.
This was around the time Chuck was able to be outside though but I do think its somewhat relevant.
i thought it was a plot hole at first but this makes sense!
@@officerspooder really you thought this masterpiece had a plot hole, really?
@@BhlackBishop i mean chuck blames jimmy for his father losing $14k yet seems oblivious to the fact that his father is an overly generous man, did chuck not have a relationship w his father? did chuck never spend anytime around the store? If you’re talking about BCS as a whole though Gus also reused dead drop zones which even Jesse and Walt didn’t do when they were dealing on their own. They’re major plot holes.
@@HogEnjoyer Chuck was sent to college during that time but rushed home in the middle of his clerkship to help his father with the book keeping and that's when he discovered $14K was gone. Jimmy stealing $40 every day for a year is $14K, $20 for 2 years is $14K, $13 for 3 years is 14K, $10 for 4 years is $14K and $8 for 5 years is $14K. Chuck said “Jimmy grew up in that store”, so if Jimmy worked there after school from age 13 to age 18 then it’s certainly possible now isn’t it? But like you’ve said there is room for doubt, Jimmy has his truth and Chuck has his truth but THE truth lies somewhere in the middle, with both or neither. Just because the writers intentionally left it ambiguous doesn't mean it's a plot hole.
If you keep doubting the genius writing of this show I'm gonna have to enact protocol chicanery under article 1216, one after Magna Carta.
you know what's worse than Chuck?, the fact that Michael Mckean never won an emmy for his potrayal of Chuck
*What a sick joke*
Yet
this chicanery!
Have some more emmys, have some more trophies. It doesn't matter if it's gold or bronze.
What a sick joke!
This is without a doubt one of the most complex and tragic relationships ever portrayed in fiction.
No one can change my mind about this
It’s right up there with Michael and Fredo to me, truly a masterful relationship.
Brilliant, tragic, sad brotherly relationship.
People spouting shit like this is so funny to me.
They are just brother this is how brothers be
@@jacobhealy8376 wth ur talking about. I definitely don't have a relationship like this with my brothers. If u do I'm sorry for you but the circumstances, consequences and psychological impact/effect on the characters brought about by this complex relationship between the Mcgill brothers are far away from normal.
I think an important aspect of this dynamic is that Jimmy was entirely unaware his brother was out to get him however, importantly, as soon as Jimmy discovered he was he was able to destroy chuck in a matter of weeks. A genius prodigy like Chuck was no match for a conman like slippin Jimmy
@samoeshit True! Being the police and trying to control everyone will make you forget yourself. Jimmy gets away every single time, sometimes the good thing to do is give up
The thing that pissed me off the most with Chuck is that he saw first hand how good of a person Jimmy had the potential to be when he discovered the Sandpiper Lawsuit. How Jimmy actively came to the defense of all of those people being taken advantage of and how hard he worked to ensure justice would be given to them. He even made sure to get the papers in a legal way and made sure Chuck knew that. And most of all, how much he’d changed and how driven he was. He saw that all first hand and yet it didn’t matter.
But no. Jimmy can’t improve or change himself according to Chuck.
Even if Chuck was right about Jimmy’s eventual fate, he pushed him in that direction by not ever giving him a chance to bask in the changes he was actively making in himself. Jimmy could have actually been a decent lawyer if Chuck had let go of his hatred and prejudice for him.
And maybe it would make sense to me if Chuck didn’t do the exact same thing that he constantly is mad at Jimmy for but because it’s “in the grounds of the law” it’s fine. It pisses me off to this day how much of a hypocrite he was.
If you hadn’t written this, I would have. Perfect summary of my own thoughts!
I don't think Jimmy ever would have been a straight and decent lawyer. Look what happened at Davis & Main. Chuck expected Jimmy to do the same at HHM, and he was right about that. Jimmy has a problem and Chuck knew it.
@@abhijitpadhi625 I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying Chuck is a hypocrite.
@@abhijitpadhi625 Davis and Main was different. Jimmy made one mistake, and got permanently punished for it, and then they turned around and made a commercial anyways.
@@uyuyyhgghh8542 Their issue was that Jimmy should have told them about the ad. Running unauthorised ads in such companies is a HUGE mistake. Of course he got punished for it. What are you, a child? Stop making excuses for Jimmy. It was his fault he did all that. Jimmy can never properly work for a company as he will just do his own thing. Chuck new that, hence never gave him a job. He was right for doing that. Stop making excuses for Jimmy just because you like him.
Chuck being kindest to him when he's allowed to feel superior is such a great point!
There's something so cruel about Chuck's self righteousness. In the world of BCS and BB, full of murderers and drug dealers, there's something especially repulsive about the way Chuck is so professional and "righteous" on the surface, but so vindictive and petty behind the scenes. Yet at the same time, for all his likeability, seeing Jimmy's more earnest nature morph into his insincere conman lawyer persona is heartbreaking too.
It’s something that these shows have touched on before. Characters who think their actions are for some “noble purpose” but done for their own petty reasons.
Something I think a lot of people don't talk about is their large age difference and Chuck's schooling. It's only addressed a couple times, but like Gray Matter in BrBa, I think there's a lot of subtext there that you can read into. Chuck is about 10 years older than Jimmy if I recall correctly -- you can guess that their parents probably had fertility issues, making Jimmy not just the baby brother, but an unlikely second child. At the same time, Chuck was a child prodigy who left home in his early teens to attend university, and then to establish his law career, which is likely a source for his socialization issues. You have this distance in age and geography, which would have probably prevented Chuck from bonding with Jimmy as a sibling; the one flashback we do see has Chuck in an almost more fatherly role. And simultaneously, you have Chuck doing amazing things in school and work while his parents heap affection on his baby brother just for existing, building resentment. And yet Jimmy very much looks up to and admires his wunderkind big brother.
That’s what I was thinking, too. As a youngest child myself, I have experienced resentment from my oldest sibling, in our case because our parents were a lot easier on me as often happens with large-ish families: the parents are often more relaxed after having a few kids, and maybe their financial situation is better so the youngest has more privileges, etc., etc. I suspect Chuck’s resentment is even more complicated than OneTake describes. In that scene where Chuck is at their mom’s deathbed, and her last words are “Jimmy!” And then, Chuck tells Jimmy she didn’t say anything, this makes me think that Chuck’s anger and resentment may have really been against their mother and father, but he blamed Jimmy to keep the story of their perfect parents in tact. Sure, Jimmy did not suffer consequences, and he got love when he did not appear to deserve it, but who was it that fell for Jimmy’s antics and looked the other way at his transgressions? His parents. Instead, though, Chuck put all the blame on Jimmy. Anyway, that is my psych analysis for now. :-)
@@marylynnkunkel3134 I'll second this as the youngest sibling whose brother is ten years older. The financial situation was much better when I was young (or from around 6 onwards at least) and my brother was always, always trying to play the mentor although in his case he was far more of a fuckup in his teens than I was and his attempts at controlling not only led me to want to do the opposite of whatever he pushed for, but ultimately came down to 'Don't live like a 17 year old, live like a 27 year old'. After cutting him out and just living and learning, I made it fine.
I contrast this with my relationship with my nephew, 10 years my junior, which was about as close - I learned not to suffocate him with heavy handed involvement and not only have we always got along but when I have offered advice, he hasn't resented it.
One also has to wonder how the cost of sending Chuck to school, so he could harness his gifts, played into the family financial situation. $14k is chump change compared to the cost of a BS, let alone a JD.
If you call BB BrBa do you also call BCS BeCaSa?
@@janys6502 AbSoLu
Jimmy tried to go straight and narrow for years but all it get him was more judgment and resentment from Big brother Narcissist. When Chuck died Jimmy realized he can now fully embrace being Saul Goodman. “Sometimes you gotta play to your strengths” - Slippin Kimmy
I think Chuck’s belief that he knows Jimmy’s “true nature” is ultimately just a cover for the fact that he can’t find any cosmic justice in Jimmy thoroughly eclipsing him socially and doing only slightly worse career-wise even though Chuck did everything right and Jimmy did everything wrong by conventional standards. The ultimate reason he can’t reconcile with Jimmy is that in doing so he would be forgiving things he believes to be unforgivable.
I feel like people are too harsh on Chuck. I grew up with a habitual thief/liar. People always told me I was too hard on them. Those same people would wind up living with them, and come back apologizing.
@@sanchoquixote1121 they aren't lol. By the time of first episode Jimmy knew Howard for a decade and in all those years he showed he changed himself by not falling into his slipping ways and actually becoming real lawyer in completely legal way. Guess what Chuck does in this case? Manipulates and sabotages his brother's career due to sheer spite and hatred he feels for Jimmy which he masks as some kind of moral duty because he sees himself as guru of righteousness due to being lawyer. Fucking joke.
People can indeed change, but it isn't rule and depends on individual and their circumstances. Jimmy changed himself to become better person, but Chuck pushed him back into his evil ways.
@@kolczak6964 Jimmy also fucks Howard over multiple times for fun and no other reason.....Even though Howard never did anything to Jimmy. So let's not talk like Jimmy was good.
Jimmy also did the one thing I hate about people - does something wrong apologizes and expect people to move on. Then he makes a promise he would never do that again, knowing full well - he will.
@@sanchoquixote1121 I don’t know your story in full, of course, but if this person was genuinely trying to change, would you have turned down, or even sabotaged, all the attempts in right direction or helped and supported?
If remember the past of Jimmy - he did all he promised to Chuck, he honestly worked in a mailroom, didn’t run any cons or schemes. But, he never promised not to pursue success in his life, and he also honestly studied, worked hard, honestly passed the bar, became a promising lawyer. His regression back to his Slippin Jimmy started only after he was first time rejected by HHM.
The dynamic and tragic relationship of the McGill brothers honestly inspired me to be a better brother and patch up any wounds with my mine to ensure that nothing like this happens to us.
I wish the writer's read your comment.
His death scene was absolutely hautning to see. And in the episode "winner" that flashback of him and jimmy made me shed a tear. Chuck mcgill is an amazing character well done Peter & Vince
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A detail that got passed over: When Chuck vouches for Jimmy at the bar, he is the one person there who doesn't state any sense of pride or joy in being there to do so.
I noticed that. "Its my honor to endorse X"
He just did it very matter of factly
nah mans was just shy. look how happy he was when Jimmy brought him out of his shell. lol everyone's a psychologist now
@@BhlackBishop lol right
All Chuck had to do was give his brother one chance to prove himself as a Lawyer, which he did actually, but he still refused to acknowledge him
He got them sand piper… but they still spat in his face
10:58 I need to point out a correction, it's a small detail but it starts AFTER Chuck forces Howard to reject Jimmy from HMM, not because of his wife. There are some lines on the opening for Winner where Kim mentions that Chuck needed to get out more after his wife left him, that opening is the last we see of Chuck before he developed his mental illness, and it makes sense that it's related to Chuck feeling guilty, that's why it acts up again after Chuck tells Jimmy that he never mattered all that much to him. The characters are never aware of this because no one knew what Chuck did, and that's why they speculate that it must've been because of his divorce.
Great point - though I wouldn’t say it’s one or the other. I think his wife leaving him contributed to the decline and then pushing Jimmy out of HHM pushed him over the edge (the combination of guilt AND alienating himself from one of his few remaining significant relations, his wife then his brother)
@@OneTakeVids I felt in a certain way Chuck felt that the "hinderance" of Jimmy being in his life at HHM somehow led to the circumstances of his divorce.
Like he blames Jimmy indirectly for the divorce although there is no way for Chuck to verbalize this out loud.
It's like you said nothing is his fault in his mind so whatever reasons his wife gave him, Chuck would blame Jimmy for causing him to be the way he was being at home. Distracted, distant, concerned etc ..
Jimmy mentions at the BAR hearing that Chucks mental illness started shortly after his wife left him. I personally believe it was the one two punch of the divorce and Jimmy getting his law license that broke Chucks mind.
That’s a good point, could also be added guilt when Jimmy was starting his career and came to Chuck for advice or connections which he used to deliberately sabotage him. Then once it became clear Jimmy wasn’t quitting anytime soon the symptoms would flare up.
@@matthewriley7826 "connections which he used to deliberately sabotage him"
This never happened. perhaps you're remembering a different show.
Mike had an amazing quote which encapsulates the whole show. “I’ve met good criminals and bad cops.” Jimmy does good things in a bad way while Chuck does bad things in good ways. Nobody is inherently bad we all just have different ways of showing the devil in us.
Underrated comment
and then Nacho's dad say the truth to people like mike who thinkg they have the high morale, ''you gangster and your justice, you are all the same.''
You know it's a great show when you need a 30 min condensed lecture to explain the relationship between only two characters!
and it could keep going
Its heartbreaking that he used to be so kind and patient with all those elders, and screwed it all up for a faster sandpiper settlement. Niw hes stuck with drug dealers and murderers
He does seem happier with these types of people, as long as they don't drag him outside of his office and the courtroom of course.
The relationship between Chuck and Jimmy is more complex than anything on Breaking Bad.
Thats why i like BCS more
I think Walt's arc comes pretty close. I wish we had gotten more flashbacks from the past Walt in college and building Gray Matter
On top of that, Jimmy threw Howard's own feelings of guilt back in his face and insincerely blamed him for killing Chuck, when he was responsible for jacking up the malpractice insurance (is it possible the insurance company could've found out Chuck's breakdown some other way, tho'?).
One detail I never see anyone point out, the episode following Chicanery, when Jimmy gets suspended and Rebecca chews him out for playing Chuck, is the first time he uses Saul Goodman publicly as an alias.
I think Howard is more responsible for Chucks death than Jimmy. But no one is more responsable than Chuck.
Eh the insurance company would’ve definitely found out about it eventually. It was on the record and there were more than a few witnesses. That’s why Howard was dining his clients doing damage control just in case they heard something. Jimmy just hit the gas pedal for them.
@@qorsoI love how Chuck apologists constantly have to point out that Jimmy is responsible for his actions but conveniently make an exception for Chuck in regards to everything he did including his self-inflicted death.
I love this show and season 5 was phenomenal but my favorite part of the show was the conflict between Jimmy and Chuck. Just an incredibly nuanced, unhealthy and complicated relationship. I actually felt more sympathetic towards Chuck the second time I viewed the series whereas I hated him at first. Also, Chicanery is still my favorite episode of the show.
me too bro
Yep, McGill Bowl was definitely a highlight for the earlier seasons.
Interesting, I'm rewatching for the first time (now S4) and I think I dislike Chuck even more than before, because of all the occasions where he's secretly working against Jimmy. The worst of course when he has Howard denying Jimmy a position at HHM for a second time. That fake indignation against Howard, who Chuck abuses as a scapegoat, while he's sitting next to Jimmy, is just the worst.
Haven't done a rewatch yet but I know I'm gonna feel differently about howard this time through.
For me it was the opposite. The first time I was very sympathetic towards Chuck but now i despise him.
Incredible synopsis of the dynamic of these two characters. This show felt personal to me because of Jimmy and Chuck and you explained them so well here. I feel like I learned something knew about their complex relationship and myself with what I'm going through watching this. Thank you so much for this and for Saul week. This show is amazing and I can't wait to see what happens in Season 6! Take care!
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Oh my god I thought you were me because we have the same picture
Small detail: the scene in the mailroom after Jimmy tells Chuck he passed the bar, we see a cake with the scales of justice. The piece of the cake that's cut & removed is one half of the scale, symbolizing the severance of the balance of justice in the mind of Chuck, and/or the sense of peace/equilibrium in the relationship between Chuck and Jimmy. Neat detail.
I remember when the show started, I was really desperate to see Jimmy become Saul. When eventually aired season 4 finale I was as stomped and surprised as Kim when he said S'all good man!
If they had reworked the plot and tied up loose ends, it would have been an amazing ending for the show.
I loved that last 30 seconds so much
Jimmy and Chuck's fallout as brothers really made me sad, because they honestly would have been a great lawyer team if Chuck wasn't selfish and decided to help Jimmy instead of ruining Jimmy, sure he was being honest, but imagine them together in HHM, alongside Kim and Howard, Jimmy would have maybe not been Slippin Jimmy anymore and that he could work hard as a rightful lawyer, there would be no Saul Goodman and Jimmy's life would have been amazing, rich and more positive unlike what happened in the events of Breaking Bad
So there shouldn't be show
@@Fred-ur2sr im seeing it from an aspect of an alternative ending
That’d be a dream team for sure.
@@edislettuce4218 city fan 😂
@@plasma9839 damn right
that multiple protagonist feeling is what makes the series so great. everyone is important, but can die as easily. It is very realistic and might seem boring, but yet again it is very exciting and adventurously at the same time.
This is probably the best video out of all of them so far. Spot on. I left a comment saying Chuck is responsible for Saul Goodman and saying he was the moral compass of the show too. Once he left Saul was free to do whatever. But Chuck is the reason for Saul Goodman. Had he not forced Jimmy to go to Albuquerque and work in the mail room Jimmy would have never passed the bar, became a lawyer in the first place. He would have stayed small time slipping Jimmy. Instead the ladder happened, all because jimmy wanted the respect and gratitude of his brother who didn't care about him. Chuck as a character is vital to the story of Saul Goodman.
Wait, how is he a moral compass? He was so spiteful and jealous of Jimmy as hell. That’s not a good person.
@@nont18411 inside chuck is ugly and horrible. But he is about the law and the right thing. Getting Jimmy to do the right thing constantly. As soon has he dies, the BB infested the show like a plauge and Saul Goodman is free roaming. Before his death, it was essentially a lawyer drama with Mike's orgin and beginnings in Albuquerque. His death sparked a change in not only Jimmy but this world of BCS. I don't know of it was written on purpose like that but chucks death is a turning point in the show Morally.
@@jasonvoorhees310 I get your point but still, Chuck is far from being a moral compass.
I think the concept of Chuck and Jimmy is about “nature vs nurture”. Chuck believed in Jimmy’s “nature” and he refused to have “nurture” as an option to approach Jimmy. He always sees Jimmy as the ultimate bad guy in his world. That’s why he betrayed and sabotaged Jimmy a lot. And with these actions, he put Jimmy into a desperate situation that Jimmy had to bring out his own “nature” to fight back.
It’s not wrong for Chuck to be skeptical about Jimmy’s ethics due to Jimmy’s track record. What is wrong is how Chuck acted on it. He chose the worst choice possible. If only he believe in “nurturing” Jimmy and guiding, supporting Jimmy the right way (like taking Jimmy to shrink to deal with Jimmy’s harmful urge to con people),they would’ve become a powerful law partners and the tragedy that was Breaking Bad wouldn’t have happened to both of their lives.
@@jasonvoorhees310 Also, many people said that Chuck did nothing wrong because Jimmy ended up as he predicted: destroying everyone around him especially Kim. Well, Chuck did a lot of wrongs though.
And about Kim, why did people keep praising her as a “goddess, strong, independent woman” every time she made a smart choice or badass moment but whenever she made a dumb decisions, they blamed it all on Jimmy (albeit Jimmy was hanging around with Mike at that time and was nowhere near her)?
Because from what I saw is that free will exists in this universe and Jimmy is not 100% responsible for Kim’s downfall, only 50%. She had so many chances to leave him for good so many times and Jimmy even wanted her to dump him but she decided not to. Kim is largely responsible for her downfall but fans refuse to see that.
@@nont18411 I understand what your point is. But saying he's far from a moral compass is just wrong. He's an upstanding lawyer. Had helped countless people. In the eyes of the community hes a good person. How he treats Jimmy has no bearing on that. What he's accomplished still matters. He is moral person. Let's not forget Jimmy is far from a good person. He shouldn't be a lawyer. Now as a brother Chuck went about in the wrong way, but he was right in keeping Jimmy from being a lawyer. Jimmy is a greedy, scumbag, criminal lawyer. Chuck absolutely is the moral compass of this show. What you said was correct too, but let's not forget who these people really are.
Chuck incarcerated himself.
Nobody remembers when Chuck relinquished his electronics at the jail, when he went to visit Jimmy. Watch. Key fob. Phone.
He punished himself for bringing Jimmy to Albuquerque.
When people hear me say I liked Chuck, they look at me like I'm crazy. They need to watch this video. Because without Chuck, this show would not be as deep as it is.
I get the same reactions when I talk about liking the bad guy characters. The worse the character the better the story. And nobody can ever prove me wrong about that.
I mean, Chuck is a well-written character, that doesn't mean that he's a likable character.
He's too snobby, and he represents everything that people hate about the 'elitist culture' when it comes to the law.
Of course -chuck led jimmy to be that type of lawyer when they didn’t bring him into the firm where he wouldn’t need to cut corners and gotten some respect in a niche in the courtroom where he shines
Most people who hate Chuck (including myself) don't doubt that he's a crucial part of the narrative that brings a new level of depth to the story. They don't want him gone from BCS
We hate him because he's a narccistic dick and a horrible brother. Good character =/= good person
There is a difference between liking a character, and liking the fact that the character exists in the story.
Amazing analysis.
The worst thing about this though is most people find this saga of the show boring, where it really is the best the show had to offer. BCS seasons 1-3 are so different from 4-6. they are almost entirely different shows.
It's funny, I used to be so excited to finally get closer to Breaking Bad as the show progressed, but ironically now I miss how the older seasons actually felt like their own show, compared to the rest which are just more seasons of Breaking Bad.
this show is so good that i started crying after thinking about the plot
Same bro i think it's the first ever tragedy I witnessed on screen that really hurt me deep and whenever I talk about it to any cinephile I can't help myself but get emotional 🙏
Does anyone else think that Jimmy crying after his car died was also him grieving Chucks death in a way?
I've watched so many breakdowns on that scene and the general consensus seems to be that that moment was only about Jimmy having a realization about his life's trajectory. Not about the cars death reminding him of his brothers death and finally forcing raw emotion out of him.
I thought him crying when the car died was about Chuck too. He's Jimmy, he wouldn't cry about car trouble, he'd curse and fix it.
But at that moment, he felt like he was at his lowest point in life and all of that pent-up emotion about Chuck and how they shaped each other's life, came crashing in and he finally got a "reason" to express it.
Otherwise, what's the point of that scene?
@@whyohwhy9679 Exactly! For some reason no one ever mentions that possibility. But I think it was a very profound moment of long suppressed grief.
It certainly was about Chuck, in one way or another. If you remember the conversation he has with Kristy right before the car scene, he references Chuck multiple times in it. He talks about seeking people's approval (to Jimmy, the one person whose approval he'd sought, was Chuck), he says people are gonna hate her for being successful (again, in Jimmy's life, that was Chuck), then "you don't matter all that much to them" is pretty much a direct quote from Chuck, and "the winner takes it all" is a reference to a Chuck related memory.
my relationship with my older sister is exactly like Jimmy and Chuck. I'm Jimmy and she's pre-EHS Chuck. this show has actually helped me understand why she doesn't like me even though I have tried everything to get her to be my friend.
In other words, you are making the world a worse place to live and still think of yourself as the victim
@@dash_r_media I mean in terms of acceptance.
@@dash_r_media Jimmy is not the only bad guy in the relationship. He is just a greater of two evils.
@@nont18411 But Chuck isn't evil. He's an uptight jerk, but that's not exactly evil.
@@dash_r_media Taking advantage of his brother’s feelings so many times to further his own gain is quite evil.
Wow.. this detailed breakdown is exquisite. So real.
Thank you 🙏
Those who paid attention in Sunday school might notice that this is a brilliant retelling of the Prodigal Son story -- a classic that resonates because we can all relate to the dynamic and to the questions of life it poses to us all.
Sunday "school" is an absolute waste of time.
Completely missed the point but not surprised.
Definitely the best Chuck and Jimmy analysis I’ve seen so far. Hoping for possible closure or a flashback with Chuck in season 6.
The best analysis of a relationship between two characters I've seen ever
Thank you 🙏
To make two amazing, well written, well acted series is a rare talent
Man I can't express how good this video is. I love deep dives like this and I've seen BCS up whatever its recency was close to 10 times and you're still bringing up points and angles in their relationship that I never considered seriously this video is so awesome man.
Just wanted to say thank you for the videos, Saul Week has been the perfect build up for the last season! All of them have been great but I think this is my favourite one. The way you lay everything out, it really confirms how tragic these brothers are. It’s truly an amazing relationship they were able to craft on the show and I loved hearing you celebrate it.
Dude I thank you for making these videos everyday for a week straight. It definitely gives this already deep show deeper meanings.
I have adored your daily essays this week, and this is easily your best. Looking forward to more!
This is one of the best analysis videos of Better Call Saul I think I've ever seen. I can't wait for more when season 6 is released. I have full confidence the writers are going to knock it out of the park.
As this show draws to it's end, I would like to thank the creators for the most beautiful experience this show was of my life. I'm happy that this universe exists and sad that it's about to meet a conclusion. Relived it way many times than it's healthy and would hurt to say goodbye.
I know people believe that 14,000 USD is too much to just "give away", but there are people with what I call a "good samaritan complex", who give away vast amounts of money to people, who they believe to be "needy". They do that, so they can feel like a "saint" to others, and it's always ramping up. They may give a homeless guy a dollar today and feel good about it, and tomorrow they give him 5 dollar, thinking "Wow, he will really be gateful for that", and next time they see him, they give him 20 bucks. "I'm sure no one has ever given him that much money. He must think I'm a saint."
Also once they started giving away larger and larger sums of money, they feel like they can't justify to people why they'd give them less than someone else. So once 20 dollars have been given away to one, that has become sort of a "minimum sum". So $20 here, $20 there, $50 to the next guy, etc...
The sums quickly add up, and increase. I personally know someone going to the bank and withdrawing the equivalent of ~250 USD to give to a beggar. And yes, the same person is now in incredible financial debt, in part also because he keeps gifting away money.
I've watched alot of breaking bad and better call saul analysis videos but this is by far the best and most in depth one I've ever seen well done
this is video is amazing, i dont know how you can connect all these things together into something that makes sense, its honestly incredible, great work man
Wow this actually started to make me tear up. I'm the oldest sibling so I had no older brother to look up to but I had a cousin and she was like my older sister and the line you said about how Jimmy was happy and thinking they were working together and Chuck disliked it and went around him. If I'd had that sort of betrayal that I was blind too I can't imagine the pain of that and that's something I would never dream of doing to my little siblings. This is a great video really really well done man.
This is a work of genius, brother. Thank you so much for talking about this dynamic. It is crucial to the Jimmy we've been getting in 4 and 5
What an extremely well written series. Excellent coverage!
Last video in your BCS marathon did not disappoint. Really well done
You’re so good at taking in and analyzing what Vince and Peter and company are trying to say and putting it all together. I just found your channel this week and I’ve been watching so many videos, building hype for the premiere tonight. Great job bro. One thing I wanna mention is the whole Davis and Main commercial thing, but Clifford Main still doesn’t fire Jimmy and genuinely gives him a second chance because, as he says, “I believe in second chances”. But Jimmy keeps messing with it until he wants to leave, and gets himself fired. It just hurts thinking about it after hearing you put it all together, how Chuck believes he can never change, yet Jimmy genuinely wanted to. Jimmy puts himself through school outside of work and takes the bar like 3 times before he gets it, yet Chuck never gives him a chance, creating this self fulfilling prophecy FOR Jimmy where he will always be Slippin’ Jimmy. Kind of makes me hate Chuck, he judges Jimmy for going on a path that Chuck himself is helping be paved. When he has all the power to help him walk on a better path. Back to Davis and Main, maybe Jimmy could’ve found a way to stick with it and learn how to work in that environment doing things their way, maybe it’d be hard for him but it’s so sad to think about how he could’ve had chances outside of HHM to be really successful, but all because of Chuck, he himself believes he’ll never fit in there. At the time still thinking that it was Howard that was in his way, he probably saw Cliff as just another Howard like he tells Kim how Rich is as well. But nah, now Gene gotta worry about Taxi drivers and not passing out while making cinnamon buns and getting caught, thx for nothing Chuck. Great videos bro, just subbed.
The thing Chuck was never able to realize is that Jimmy loved him more than anything and never tried "one upping" him in the situations that Chuck felt insecure him. They just needed to talk it out instead of keeping their feelings pent up. I know it sounds cheezy but that really is what had to happen.
Incredible analysis/essay. One of if not the best BCS/Jimmy video. Great work!
Thank you for the detailed recap. I’d forgotten many of these details. Such long breaks between seasons…
best analysis of the jimmy/saul transformation i've seen! keep it up good sir
The worst thing you can possibly do to someone who's actively changing their bad lifestyle for something better is to remind them of how much bad they were in the past. Chuck does that almost everytime they talk so no shit Jimmy is relapsing when he gets the office in the back of a nail salon.
I'm not good with forming great words to appreciate this video, but man, you dont know how much I feel inside how great you prepare this analysis and the way you deliver them. I hope theres a machine that can interpret whats inside your mind so you can see it. thanks for making this video.
This is a brilliantly insightful analysis. And extremely well explained.
Kudos.
These video's have been extremely entertaining and endlessly useful for understanding this show a little better. You should be proud of what you've done here
I love your work man. You changed my whole perspective on the show. Your work is on point and always a pleasure to watch. Now I can tell my friends what is it exactly that made me watch the show 5 times. And maybe make them watch it with me for the 6th time :)))
Keep it up.
Fantastic video. I've been rewatching BCS and I'm like, damn, the more I re-watch, the more appreciation I have for these two characters. This puts what I'm thinking to words.
this is an absolutely amazing character study wow. you're extremely talented
I was so sad when Chuck died. The dynamics of this relationship was so awesome.
This video is amazing. It brought whole new layers to their relationship I didn’t even pick up on. Great stuff
Wooo hooo Jimmy returns! Thanks, this was such a deep and well-researched video. Love your RBW stuff but now Saul too? Can't wait till Season 6 begins in a few days. And I'm so glad I stumbled across your ode to Chuck and Jimmy. Bravo.
Wow, That was genuinely one of the BEST breakdown videos ive ever watched
Thank you so much for Saul week and making so many great videos in a week, especially this one was amazing.
In S01E02 there is a scene when Chuck wears his space blanket, and Jimmy says "take it off, I didn't do anything wrong". So that means that Jimmy knows that Chuck's condition is related to Jimmy doing bad things, right?
Yes. He knows. But he chooses to play along, helping him tailoring the space blanket suit, bringing him groceries every day and so on. Jimmy knows the truth, but he thinks pleasing him he's the only way to get his approval.
That's in the middle of them talking about the whole procedure Chuck expects visitors to take. He didn't do anything wrong with grounding himself, putting his cell phone in the box, not bringing anything else.
Great breakdown of Jimmy & Chuck!
The depth of writing in this show is so beyond! Gonna miss this show!
Your commentary is actually quite good, quality video. You touched on some things I hadn't thought of. Cheers
omg, that "you don't matter all that much to them" cracked me a bit, I didnt felt it the first time, but yeah, fuck Chuck
This is the most intelligent and comprehensive analysis of Chuck and Jimmy's relationship. Looking at the story FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES is the key to unlocking the brilliance of this show.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched, and I really mean that. Well done
Wow, thank you so much 🙏
One of the best youtube videos I have ever seen and I have been watching vids on here for years. Incredible summary of such a complex relationship!
This was sooo good Gil! Outstanding analysis + you are a great writer
I just finished watching all of your Saul Week videos. Fantastic content! I wish I had discovered your channel sooner. BCS is one of my favorite shows of all time. I can’t wait to see more of your breakdowns on the episodes and the characters.
Great videos this week. Super excited for the finale. Thanks.
Great retrospective, accurate and insightful breakdown. Thanks for posting!.
Great breakdown of one of my favorite shows!
Holy cow this is great analysis-great work dude
jesus.. I rarely come across an actual honest to Bob, GOOD YTer but you man, are definitely one of the elites. Bravo man, seriously. The depth and dots connected but also in the manner presented is top tier, and anxiously awaiting clicking on your next BCS interpretation video. 👏 😎
One of my favorite things about this series is the idea that a good person can be broken by the world little by little. Sure Jimmy does things differently but chuck sees that as a departure from normalcy so much so he becomes superlawyer. Chuck wanted to be as good as Jimmy and couldn't even. So chuck became the antithesis to Jimmy. I don't see Jimmy messing up anymore than a normal person what I see is Chuck not letting go of anything ever. Jimmy would try to change but get sullied by his brother whose his mentor in a way. Think of how great they could have been if they joined forces. Holy shit. They wouldn't need Howard's limp ass...
I think something that's funny in all this is that if Chuck DIDN'T hate Jimmy and instead praised him and hired him at HHM, Saul would've just never been born. Think about it! The scam, the billboard, the embezzling case, had Chuck just accepted his brother changed his ways and turned over a new leaf we wouldn't have had Saul. He would have gone away just as Jimmy promised.
It's a shame too, cause had he not let his hate over his brother get the best of him Chuck wouldn't have died.
This is fantastic and a great breakdown of a complex and fascinating relationship
This is a great analysis. Thank you!
You have the best videos about everything BCS and BB! I love your content!
Thank you Jorryn! 🙏
This is a really well done video. Thanks for making it
Amazing video and spot on analysis!
Great video. Its clear that you really watched and enjoyed the show and you're not just reading a script someone else wrote.
Great analysis. Good work!
Brilliant analysis dude! Watching chucks and Jimmy's relationship is 💔 2 episodes tomorrow !
Thanks Jason!
I love these Better Call Saul videos you’ve done this week. I’m both sadden and happy this show is ending. Sad because it’s my favorite show on TV that’s coming to an end, and possibly the last show we will get within the Breaking Bad universe, but glad as I wouldn’t want this show to go on more seasons than necessary and then say “that show’s still on?” It’s best when shows end on top. Breaking Bad did that and it looks like Better Call Saul will do that as well.
This was awesome! Thank you for this video!
both brothers felt the world had betrayed them and "the world" was represented by each other and their relationship to each other. Excellent video. Thank you!
Very nice video, great breakdown.
Really insightful video. Great job.
One of the best video essays I've ever watched