Harry Potter & The Cursed Child - Review

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  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews  4 роки тому +2825

    Oops, JK Rowling is terrible. I am a bit of a hater now.

    • @thesnuggler5941
      @thesnuggler5941 4 роки тому +119

      Same she ruined my childhood

    • @banjotiki3910
      @banjotiki3910 4 роки тому +159

      Cursed Child was written by Jack Thorne and John Tiffany ; JK Rowling only said that it's canon. Still, the book sucks.

    • @thesnuggler5941
      @thesnuggler5941 4 роки тому +55

      @@banjotiki3910 have you seen her Twitter

    • @kseriousr
      @kseriousr 4 роки тому +142

      @@banjotiki3910 Maybe she shouldn't have approved pasting her name in a bigger font than the other two authors.

    • @billyrivers672
      @billyrivers672 4 роки тому +6

      Was gonna say :)

  • @isacantonio4355
    @isacantonio4355 5 років тому +3526

    The ONLY way I can accept Cursed Child as Canon is imagining that is a fictional play inside Harry Potter's universe written by Rita Skeeter.

    • @elanor2006
      @elanor2006 5 років тому +186

      Omg !!! Totally ! This has Rita Skeeter writtten all over it !!! Great Idea! She would say that Harry is a horrible dad !

    • @netagenis7235
      @netagenis7235 4 роки тому +139

      Ohh it's like this one episode in avatar: the last airbender where they saw a play about themselfs. It's totally believable that Rita will write something like that.

    • @isacantonio4355
      @isacantonio4355 4 роки тому +49

      Exactly like the play in Avatar, distorting everything
      You got this

    • @netagenis7235
      @netagenis7235 4 роки тому +14

      @@isacantonio4355 yeyy I got this
      And tbh thinking about it like that makes me feel a lot better about the cursed child. It's still terrible but at least i can be less angry about it now lmao😅

    • @isacantonio4355
      @isacantonio4355 4 роки тому +9

      @@netagenis7235 for sure. Outside this context (totally headcannon, but more plausible than the play itself) there is no way to accept this offensive nonsense piece of trash

  • @Trustworthy_McLegitimate
    @Trustworthy_McLegitimate 5 років тому +2619

    19 YEARS LATER
    "But, dad -- what if I get put in house Lannister?"
    Jon kneels before his son, puts a hand on his shoulder.
    "Tyrion Eddard Night-King Snow - you were named after the bravest men I ever knew and a magic zombie..."

    • @aidanspeck2487
      @aidanspeck2487 4 роки тому +68

      This is great 😂

    • @niahoad
      @niahoad 4 роки тому +106

      Potterskywalker as a last name

    • @Pumpkinshaker
      @Pumpkinshaker 4 роки тому +59

      Aragog Spiderman Potter...
      (Studio C)

    • @sterlingarcher5698
      @sterlingarcher5698 4 роки тому +5

      Looooooool

    • @sterlingarcher5698
      @sterlingarcher5698 4 роки тому +17

      The whole reason I wrote my FanFic 'next book' is because I hated this chapter.
      Harry was an orphan, looking for a Family, who found a Home....we did not NEED to know he got a family and Home....that was obvious from the first book!!!
      Last chapter shouldve been Harry as an Auror and the general terror and awe lil old Harry inspires in the criminal underworld.

  • @monferno71
    @monferno71 5 років тому +2699

    OMG Daniel's first fanfic review :O

    • @anaiglesias9972
      @anaiglesias9972 5 років тому +155

      And it was a bad fanfic, poor thing.

    • @somethingracist4564
      @somethingracist4564 5 років тому +16

      @afootineachworld i could recommend a few

    • @ma2keep
      @ma2keep 5 років тому +4

      @@somethingracist4564
      i mean, i'm not the one you offered to do rec some fics but i'd be up for some new ones. ^^

    • @somethingracist4564
      @somethingracist4564 5 років тому +1

      @@ma2keep ta'veren: thats obviously a WoT FanFic, it has seven chapters.
      Literally anything by kenchi618, he's a great writer.
      Ashikabi no shinobi,
      And crimson is a persona 5 fanfic.

    • @finnegan4246
      @finnegan4246 5 років тому +15

      Now that he's reviewed the #1 worst HP fanfics he should do the second-worst "My Immortal (A Tale of Infamy )"

  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews  5 років тому +822

    Basically, it was doodoo and I am mad I spent my money on it.

    • @CoolCakesJack
      @CoolCakesJack 5 років тому +13

      That's sexist. White male

    • @ryanb3665
      @ryanb3665 5 років тому +17

      That was my experience with the book. Except I stayed up for the release party at my local bookstore, making me feel even more ripped off.

    • @janhavi1977
      @janhavi1977 5 років тому +19

      Rowling might have claimed it’s canon, but there’s so much that just doesn’t add up, that I refuse, absolutely *refuse* to believe it’s canon!

    • @gflow7501
      @gflow7501 5 років тому +5

      The Sunday in the Park with George reference wins me over automatically. I’m a professional performer and have been involved in dozens of productions. When I saw this show it was saved by special effects and production value (they literally renovated the entire theatre), but my biggest problems both reading and seeing the show were the short length of each scene and the number of rapid fire scene changes to completely different locations. Give the Broadway directors credit- they made scene and set changes as interesting as they possibly could with intricate choreography and stunts/magic tricks plus sound design that enhanced the production, but to me it still felt like they were dressing up something that didn’t flow naturally dramatically.
      Also - yeah, why does Harry suck so much?

    • @deanryanmartin
      @deanryanmartin 5 років тому +1

      I am not surprised with your review at all. I also heard negative reviews about this book.

  • @jamesrich5640
    @jamesrich5640 5 років тому +1238

    JK didn’t actually write the play. Yes her world and she did prove input but she did not actually write it.
    That’s not to excuse the issues there are with the play.

    • @alchemypotato
      @alchemypotato 5 років тому +172

      It's funny people miss that since it says "A play by Jack Thorne" on the cover haha. I guess it's the big JK Rowling that throws people off. It's just official fanfic.

    • @pretzel1265
      @pretzel1265 5 років тому +28

      He does mention this

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  5 років тому +196

      THANK GOD!

    • @ryanratchford2530
      @ryanratchford2530 5 років тому +31

      Steven Bell I agree. And as a piece of media that purposely advertises itself as a continuation of the story, & features HP, & JK Rowling on the cover so much (in order to get people to equivocate & buy it) it is only fair to compare it to the states of HP & JK Rowling

    • @pooyashirazi1991
      @pooyashirazi1991 5 років тому +24

      its not like she did a bang up job writing anything after Harry Potter, even Fantastic Beast 2 suffer the same problem of bringing the past stories into the fold. even Harry Potter ended up being a mess considering how many mcguffins she introduced to finish the story.

  • @ryanratchford2530
    @ryanratchford2530 5 років тому +850

    And it’s extremely annoying how the Cursed Child makes the time turners a parallel world type of time travel where in the books it was clearly a predeterminsim (you can’t change the past, it just turns out you always where involved in the past) rules of time travel

    • @ramywiles
      @ramywiles 5 років тому +116

      Exactly! I think I especially took issue with this change because when I read Prisoner of Azkaban the first time, I loved seeing how things fell into place exactly as they were the first time around, but this time with more nuance and goings-on behind the scenes. It had gravity, too. You knew Hermione wasn't messing around when she said that "awful things happen to wizards who meddle with time." It was genuinely one of the things that kept me invested in the series.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis 5 років тому +40

      yeah!!!! "Voldemort Day" is THE. STUPIDEST. THING. I've ever read about.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis 5 років тому +15

      @@ramywiles yeah!!!! She kept the rules tight, and that's what made it good!

    • @WTKB82
      @WTKB82 5 років тому +12

      princessthyemis the time turners NEVER made sense in the book. The rules simply don’t work as well you think. The entire basis of the time turner proves them to be useless.
      You can’t change the past. It’s impossible. But yet there are apparently situations wherein the past has been changed and resulted in people dying. The book was always very confusing about the time turners

    • @nessyness5447
      @nessyness5447 4 роки тому +14

      @@WTKB82 the time turners seem to be more to make possible being in several places at a time than changing the past. they only go backwards, and you have to wait normal time to be back when you left, so i believe they are thought for travels of just a few hours , either ti be in several places at once, or just to review a recent event from an external point of view. i don't think they werw ever thought to alter timlines.

  • @shadetreesurgeon
    @shadetreesurgeon 5 років тому +866

    Insulting... that's definitely the right word for it. It's heartbreaking that this is where we get to leave our characters in the Harry Potter universe. I wish I hadn't read it.

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  5 років тому +146

      If it was not so short, I would not have finished reading it. It’s literally to short to DNF

    • @devoringdemonsoulq9086
      @devoringdemonsoulq9086 4 роки тому +18

      Its like got season 7 and 8

    • @johnd1411
      @johnd1411 4 роки тому +10

      @@devoringdemonsoulq9086 That's a great comparison, I refuse to accept that they're both canon because of how astronomically terrible they were.

    • @TommyRepulsed
      @TommyRepulsed 4 роки тому +6

      @@devoringdemonsoulq9086 While I haven't read the cursed child (nor do I plan on to), I guess it is a fitting comparison. The last 2 seasons of GOT left such a sour aftertaste I don´t even want to re-watch the beginning couple of seasons which were excellent though.
      P.S. how weird stumbling on Shadetree Surgeon here :D

    • @thehoboking2028
      @thehoboking2028 3 роки тому +1

      reading it is like reading diary of a wimpy kid fanfics

  • @katoozie
    @katoozie 5 років тому +634

    A Very Potter Musical > The Cursed Child

  • @andrewreising4541
    @andrewreising4541 5 років тому +683

    My wife read it, and I have never seen her so angry about a book!

    • @hopebringer2348
      @hopebringer2348 5 років тому +39

      This is gonna sound weird, but that's a very lovely child you have on your profile pic.

    • @alphahumanz
      @alphahumanz 4 роки тому +3

      😂

    • @haunt7121
      @haunt7121 3 роки тому +1

      @@hopebringer2348 cute baby

    • @BrownBrown270
      @BrownBrown270 2 роки тому

      Looks like the spawn of Satan and I'm sure he acts like it too.

  • @jynstar
    @jynstar 5 років тому +662

    "Who is this guy and why is he writing Harry Potter?!" 💀💀💀 That about sums it up.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis 5 років тому +2

      yeah!!!

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 5 років тому +5

      The first book under his name, "Let the right one in" is actually kinda neat The movie I mean, I've seen both the original and the US remake and thought it was pretty good
      Don't know the other 2 though

    • @evgenkhersonets880
      @evgenkhersonets880 4 роки тому +2

      He wrote a script to His Daek Materials series, btw

    • @erinhaury5773
      @erinhaury5773 4 роки тому +9

      @@randallflagg3700 Bunny is pretty good, too. I don't think Thorne was the issue here, at least not when it comes to the story beats being weird. He's writing the screenplays for HBO's 'His Dark Materials' series and it's actually a very competently executed adaptation. I feel like Cursed Child was a case of too many fingers in the pot, with too many disparate ideas mashed together.

    • @shubhamshinde2570
      @shubhamshinde2570 4 роки тому +1

      @@randallflagg3700 I'm not sure, but I think he wrote the adaptation of it, not the original book. I could be wrong tho

  • @Jay-vp3kk
    @Jay-vp3kk 5 років тому +523

    Daniel: "This is canon..."
    Me: "Not for me if I never read it."

    • @nessyness5447
      @nessyness5447 4 роки тому +13

      we don't accept that shit as canon an that's it...dude i was so mad at the idea of the voldemorts daughter...like, if you want me to believe that voldemort had a kid for some reason, place it when he was raising to power and earing followers, he could have had a kid just to use to give himself power, or a result of an affair to manpulate and control some witch whose influence he needed for something. and still, that's only acceptable in fanfic.

    • @Pillzpop
      @Pillzpop 4 роки тому +4

      Same for me and Go Set a Watchman. Don't care what you say, I don't want to see the death of Atticus Finch's nobility.

    • @greatcoldemptiness
      @greatcoldemptiness Рік тому

      Cope

  • @boopbleepbloop
    @boopbleepbloop 4 роки тому +474

    He named his kid after Dumbledore & Snape, when Arthur, Hagrid and Remus earned that way more ?

    • @mlishansaa.lishanskiy7594
      @mlishansaa.lishanskiy7594 4 роки тому +28

      arthur and hagrid are alive and lupin has his own child and legacy

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 4 роки тому +47

      mlishansaa. Lishanskiy His son name is Teddy. So Harry Can still name his kid Remus and it would actually make sense. Also, what does those two characters being alive have to do with anything? Unless you’re ignoring their daughter Lily Luna (Luna is alive).

    • @boopbleepbloop
      @boopbleepbloop 4 роки тому +46

      @@shayla106 Yes! Teddy was named after his grandfather who passed away! Harry could have done the same to honour his incredible teacher and uncle. But NoNOooNONOooo let's honour a man who was terrible to me (and so many others) for 7 years! All of Snape's incredible triple spy work doesnt wash away his years as a bully teacher.

    • @ElinorMahoney
      @ElinorMahoney 4 роки тому +29

      A M also it seems like he didn’t let Ginny have a say in the kids names lol

    • @spongie4419
      @spongie4419 4 роки тому +7

      I can't be the only one who thinks that Albus Severus Potter fits more rather than Hagrid Dobby Potter or other names Harry could've thought of. I'm not saying that Albus Severus is a good name, I'm just saying that it sounds better than the other names.

  • @andytheshark2102
    @andytheshark2102 5 років тому +459

    I don’t care if r.k.roling wrote the cursed chilled, she still promoted it and put her name on it, so she must have read it and apparently liked it and that is on her

    • @_sofie
      @_sofie 4 роки тому +2

      ItS sTiLL tHe WoMAns FaUlT GuYs

    • @andytheshark2102
      @andytheshark2102 4 роки тому +34

      @@_sofie whats your point ?

    • @poopityscoop6398
      @poopityscoop6398 4 роки тому +45

      @@_sofie it has nothing to do with JK Rowling being a woman. It has everything to do with the fact that you’re a complete idiot

    • @draakgast
      @draakgast 3 роки тому +15

      @@_sofie of course THAT'S the thing you try to focus on

    • @and8091
      @and8091 3 роки тому +6

      @@_sofie Bro, what's your patronus bro?

  • @bradenhazle4378
    @bradenhazle4378 5 років тому +489

    "Subverting expectations"
    "I guess they kind of forgot Harry was a good person"

    • @elanor2006
      @elanor2006 5 років тому +20

      Hahhhahhhaahhahaha, I understood that reference !!!

    • @J1O2C3K4E5S
      @J1O2C3K4E5S 4 роки тому +19

      Last jedi syndrom

    • @Tengokuchi
      @Tengokuchi 4 роки тому +18

      @@J1O2C3K4E5S I think it's more a reference to GoT season 8

    • @adrianbundy3249
      @adrianbundy3249 3 роки тому +2

      @@Tengokuchi No, in an interview with the creator of TLJ, that was a direct quote from. It was one of the most insanely dumb things I have heard a director say, but it is what it is.

    • @hopebringer2348
      @hopebringer2348 3 роки тому +7

      @@adrianbundy3249 That’s actually an interview to one of the GoT showrunners regarding why Danaerys didn’t think about the iron fleet

  • @promiseijeomah488
    @promiseijeomah488 5 років тому +191

    in my mind the cursed child is not part of harry potter canon its just fan fiction to me

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis 5 років тому +4

      me too!

    • @SunflowerSpotlight
      @SunflowerSpotlight 5 років тому +4

      Ditto. I’ve got a similar head cannon about the new cannon, lol. It’s the only way I can reconcile its existence. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @WTKB82
      @WTKB82 5 років тому +3

      J D3 it actually is canon. We can’t debate that.
      But I look at it like this: the overall aspects of the story are canon. The specific details are not.
      So Harry has a son who was a Slytherin and became friends with a Malfoy. Great. The poly juice potion taking a few minutes to brew? Not canon. Umbridge being able to fly? Not canon. Stuff like that.

    • @eszternagy6991
      @eszternagy6991 4 роки тому +2

      It's not just in your mind, everybody knows that what you just wrote are the facts.

    • @MichR14
      @MichR14 4 роки тому +2

      And a bad fanfiction.

  • @sailorjay
    @sailorjay 5 років тому +99

    You either die a hero or you live long enough to become Uncle Vernon.

  • @eduardoo31
    @eduardoo31 5 років тому +258

    as someone who has read harry potter from beginning to end over 10 times, i have no plans on ever reading the cursed child, none whatsoever hahaha.

    • @beLIEver31415
      @beLIEver31415 5 років тому +14

      You've made the right decision. I have read it and I would only recommend someone to read it to be able to talk about how horrible it is in every way at this point.

    • @berenicethegirl
      @berenicethegirl 5 років тому +3

      @@beLIEver31415 I like your profile picture 😁😁

    • @SunflowerSpotlight
      @SunflowerSpotlight 5 років тому +6

      beL13ver I agree. That’s the only reason I recommend it. I’m an editor and, well, it’s helpful in pointing out what not to do to your story. From plot holes to pacing to internal logic gaffes, it’s extremely problematic.
      But hey, maybe someone wants to watch the Trolley Witch transform and lob explosives at children on the top of a moving train. See how much fun we’re having? 😑

    • @beLIEver31415
      @beLIEver31415 5 років тому

      @@berenicethegirl :) Thanks :) Harry Potter was once my #1 "young" fantasy series... and then ASOUE came into my life 2 years ago... and let's just say The World Is Quiet(er) Here. Little did I know it would couple with my already huge obsession with the #13, libraries, AND was literally my favorite ending of all time with the most perfect last sentence :) So glad Netflix finally was able to finish the whole story, even if I think they didn't do the ending as much justice as an insanely obsessed fan could have hoped for, overall just glad we got to see the whole story finally completed in visual media :) Now for the prequels! :D

    • @bakergames6275
      @bakergames6275 4 роки тому

      @Barry still reading them?

  • @elgranqenk2
    @elgranqenk2 5 років тому +265

    She put her name to sell copies but that garbage was written by other guys.
    Sadly, it's a REALLY BAD FAN FICTION. It's horrible. Poorly written. I don't know, nor care, if the play has actually great effects when seeing it. The story is awful and bad.

    • @martinortiz5851
      @martinortiz5851 4 роки тому

      Qenk no esperaba encontrarte acá.
      Me recomendarías leer el resto de la saga? Saludos desde argentina!

    • @aguywithalotofopinions412
      @aguywithalotofopinions412 2 роки тому

      Yeah Jack Thorne was the main writer

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 2 роки тому +1

      I’d say large responsibility still lies with her if she read the story and STILL stamped her name bigger than anyone else’s and called it canon

  • @pavanpluto
    @pavanpluto 5 років тому +503

    Albus Severus is the worst literary character name ever.
    Renesmee Cullen: Hold my bottle of blood!

    • @samanthaegley5067
      @samanthaegley5067 5 років тому +48

      Yeah what is with authors having their characters name their kids entirely after other characters? Like, it always feels like fan service. These two are for sure the worst but honestly! Who hears names like this and thinks "yeah thats good!"?! The lack of common sense from the namer is rediculous.

    • @MortyrSC2
      @MortyrSC2 5 років тому +30

      @@samanthaegley5067 In all honesty, naming children after ancestors/relatives was a very common practice throughout the entire human history until very recently. But yes, by modern standards, those names are absolutely terrible.

    • @Deadralord777
      @Deadralord777 5 років тому +4

      pavan b.c I thought her name was spelt, Renesmé, still bad but much better than that garbage

    • @synflwr
      @synflwr 5 років тому

      Well the mc and her husband in my story called their kid Loki. Named after the god. I feel like it works, especially with the whole fantasy deity aspect of it.

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 5 років тому +9

      I always figured that, at the time of his birth, Harry believed he wasn't the father and wanted to punish the child of Ginny and whoever the father was.

  • @fab006
    @fab006 5 років тому +229

    Hang on. Wasn’t the Albus Severus thing in the original series epilogue?

    • @indranigomes9874
      @indranigomes9874 5 років тому +24

      yeah

    • @CJCroen1393
      @CJCroen1393 5 років тому +20

      I was just about to comment about that! Did Daniel forget?

    • @dmick9168
      @dmick9168 5 років тому +59

      Yes it was. The epilogue is not great...

    • @pretendtheresaname9213
      @pretendtheresaname9213 4 роки тому +70

      Yeah, one of the reasons that the epilogue is kind unanimously awarded as the worst part of that book

    • @sir_trevor0
      @sir_trevor0 4 роки тому +14

      I just imagine it was supposed to be a tiny little meaningful moment to show the impact of the two characters in DH, not meant to actually be carried on any more than that.

  • @Toldoris
    @Toldoris 3 роки тому +73

    I always found the concept of Voldemort having a child completely stupid.
    First of all he would not want to have one. He intended to live forever as some kind of magical demigod and would not need an heir or even want one who could possibly be a threat to him in the future.
    Second: In the books he is depicted as pretty much asexual. Voldemort was incapable of love but that wouldn't stop him from having sexual relationships. I know that the Harry Potter books are very tame on the subject but let's think about it. Voldemort was a sociopath who knew how to use his charm, charisma, intelligence and good looks to manipulate people male and female. (Slughorn, Hepzibah Smith) If he had any sexual desires he would have used them to make girls fall for him and of course abuse em. But it is never mentioned that he had any kind of girlfriend and even Bellatrix was married because it was expected from her. If Voldemort had any kind of sexual desires he would have acted like a classical tyrant. He would have an official lover and one or more concubines and amuse himself as they fought for his attention and his favor. But he did none of this, simply because he didn't care! He gave up his good looks because he didn't need them anymore. His attractive appearance was nothing but a tool he discarded as soon as he was able to rule with fear as he always had intended in the first place. Of course he noted Bellatrix affection and he used it to control her. But he would never have slept with her, because I'm sure the Voldemort of the original books would see sexual intercourse as a basic human act far beneath him.

  • @mr.teekanee9750
    @mr.teekanee9750 5 років тому +215

    As a huge fan of HP, I've never read Cursed child and never will.

  • @thedragon6480
    @thedragon6480 5 років тому +89

    I have a HP tattoo, that's how much I love this series and the world it's set in. But oh man! I've read so many fanfics that were more deserving of getting a shot at becoming the next "canon" installment in the series. Fanfics! And they were much better, made more sense and actually understood the source material. This was such a disappointment! I still can't accept this as canon. In my head it never happened.

    • @tomclancy9574
      @tomclancy9574 3 роки тому +4

      Whats worse is i heard its getting a movie and i hope its not true.

  • @fcold9402
    @fcold9402 5 років тому +104

    She has stopped writing from her own imagination and seems now to be concerned about pleasing a mob that cannot be pleased.

    • @robertgronewold3326
      @robertgronewold3326 5 років тому +8

      She never wrote this play. She just gave permission to the script writers and they produced THIS.

    • @youresohot1392
      @youresohot1392 5 років тому +11

      I think at this point, everyone would be pleased if she were to just leave everything alone

    • @shayla106
      @shayla106 4 роки тому +4

      JD Her Stupid lie about Hermoine not being white but black and her trying to make her book seem really diverse to please the woke crowd.

  • @loveisanopendoor3532
    @loveisanopendoor3532 4 роки тому +177

    I have never understood why their names are so orientated around Harry when idk Ginny is the one that's carrying these babies?? Like a middle name or one child's name sure but every child has the names that only really directly mean something to Harry and knowing Ginny that's not realistic. Your telling me she wouldn't want to, if we're going with this whole name after people thing, name them after her own brother?
    And what about Hagrid or any members of the Wesley's? Makes absolutely no sense for him to name his child after someone that treated him like shit. Ik Snape is a controversial character but he should just respect him not name his whole son after him. Made no sense at all

    • @phenix1947
      @phenix1947 3 роки тому +4

      not name his whole son after him
      his whole son
      whole
      son
      XDDDDDD you just made my day

  • @rymdalkis
    @rymdalkis 5 років тому +258

    JK Rowling has proven through the Fantastic Beasts movies that she's not a capable script writer

    • @rymdalkis
      @rymdalkis 5 років тому +44

      @afootineachworld The Fantastic Beasts movies have good special effects and decent actors. That's why some people like them. Cursed Child has nothing going for it

    • @atlas_vash
      @atlas_vash 5 років тому +23

      Meh I honestly really like the fantastic beasts movies,although I feel like the second one was more for world building and setting things up a bit for the third one I still thought it was alright
      Personally I dont really like the movies after goblet of fire (order of the Phoenix is alright though) but once fantastic beasts came out it really felt like old school Harry Potter again to me

    • @mr.teekanee9750
      @mr.teekanee9750 5 років тому +2

      I did not like the first very much and haven't watched the second yet cause it seems it's not any better. I would much prefer story of a young Dumbledore and Grindewald without any Newt and his beasts.

    • @henryorhank
      @henryorhank 5 років тому +16

      afootineachworld I wish the fantastic beasts movies were more removed from the Harry Potter story and had nothing to do with Harry Potter characters and instead was just an independent story in the wizarding world so there wouldn't be so much retconning and canon breaking shit in the movies

    • @Jay-vp3kk
      @Jay-vp3kk 5 років тому +7

      @afootineachworld It's honestly not that confusing, the Fantastic beast movies are okay to good movies, but they are shite harry potter movies. Ergo the discrepancy. The Harry Potter fans dislike them because it's shitting all over established lore and doesn't feel like like real Harry Potter, whilst average movie goers with a casual interest in Harry Potter enjoy them because they have great characters, cool special effects and honestly are pretty funny at times and as such make for a good casual movie experience.

  • @AOB454
    @AOB454 4 роки тому +150

    I hated cursed child, but being honest, u can’t criticize this book for the name Albus Severus Potter, since that kid was addressed as that in the epilogue Of deathly hallows. U can still criticize JK for it tho

    • @phoivos
      @phoivos 4 роки тому +31

      Name was terrible in the epilogue and it's terrible now too, though

  • @ladycplum
    @ladycplum 5 років тому +103

    My advice to writers: Don't mess with time travel unless you're the Doctor.

  • @SantosAl
    @SantosAl 5 років тому +188

    Greene: "one of the worst names in fantasy"
    Me: So he hasn't read the Twilight books?

    • @DanielGreeneReviews
      @DanielGreeneReviews  5 років тому +40

      S.A. Wait what’s the worse name in that book?

    • @nikoburazer437
      @nikoburazer437 5 років тому +7

      @@DanielGreeneReviews hahahahahahahaha if you had read it you would know it

    • @nikoburazer437
      @nikoburazer437 5 років тому +47

      @@DanielGreeneReviewsBella and Edwards daughte: Renesmee Charlie Cullen

    • @SantosAl
      @SantosAl 5 років тому +46

      @@DanielGreeneReviews The MC in the book names her child after two of her dearest people, René and Esmee. She names her child Renesmee... Do you get it, it's so smart, She combined their names.
      Oh yeah, she also gives the kid a middle name. Since fantasy characters can't exist without one.

    • @monsouranda2822
      @monsouranda2822 5 років тому +4

      You mean Renesmee Charlie?

  • @parthkulkarni3468
    @parthkulkarni3468 5 років тому +49

    Well, it was not Rowling alone,Jack Thorne and John tiffany too contributed to make it bad!

  • @preserumcoco
    @preserumcoco 5 років тому +56

    “a literary equivalent of a concussion” I absolutely adore you

  • @DAGuy726
    @DAGuy726 5 років тому +45

    Not mad abt albus’s name by it was actually canon in the books, but still mad about the lack of plot and the queerbait with Albus and Scorpius. And don’t worry too much about it being a script, it is not any better to sit through it on Broadway.

    • @Jmcsj02
      @Jmcsj02 Місяць тому

      The script was actually better than the show. I'm one of the dummies that didn't read about the cast. And when I saw black Hermione it was just ruined!!! She didnt even have any charisma. Just another Bland black actress

  • @Kat-gp6gj
    @Kat-gp6gj 4 роки тому +13

    JKR introduced the name Albus Severus in the series epilogue. As bad as the Cursed Child is, that part at least cannot be blamed on its authors.

  • @rachelkraft1138
    @rachelkraft1138 5 років тому +23

    I never got over the fact that it was almost exactly a fanfic a friend wrote in highschool.

  • @carlrood4457
    @carlrood4457 4 роки тому +16

    The time turner in Prisoner of Azkaban at least gave the impression of limitations. No one went back more than a few hours and they created a stable time loop. They didn't change the past. They were always there.

    • @Hessenball
      @Hessenball 3 роки тому

      I actually like the one From CC more than the one from PA

  • @RandomPerson8908
    @RandomPerson8908 5 років тому +35

    I refuse to recognize Cursed Child as canon. It's glorified fanfic and deserves to be treated as such.

  • @carwyn3691
    @carwyn3691 4 роки тому +7

    I actually liked the time turners in Prisioner of Azkaban quite a lot. The idea of time travel that isn't about going back and changing the past, but instead the events are already set in stone and the travel itself only serves to fill in the gaps of what already happened, is really interesting to me. Shame the people who wrote this book didn't see it this way

  • @feanaro2712
    @feanaro2712 5 років тому +23

    That opening monologue/Goodreads review was so good, especially that big finish. Also, pretty damn accurate.

  • @paris5548
    @paris5548 5 років тому +57

    The only good part of this hot mess was Scorpius

    • @violator7964
      @violator7964 4 роки тому +1

      Isn’t he a villain in Farscape?

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 4 роки тому

      @@violator7964 yuuuup. Rowling really didn’t think that through.

    • @eoinm3d224
      @eoinm3d224 3 роки тому +7

      I hated scorpios in the screenplay. But in the play... OH MY GOD he is AMAZING

    • @paris5548
      @paris5548 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@eoinm3d224 AGREED. my mom got our family tickets to see the play for my sister's bday and even though i couldnt stand reading the screenplay the play itself blew my expectations out of the water. no doubt this is because of the amazing actors they cast

    • @eoinm3d224
      @eoinm3d224 3 роки тому +5

      @@paris5548 I totally agree. The casting and the stage work was insane.

  • @EpicEpochh
    @EpicEpochh 5 років тому +21

    1. It legitimately made my day that my patreon shoutout was on one of my least favorite books I’ve ever read. Thanks for dragging cursed child!
    2. I think I followed you on goodreads the same day I contributed on patreon. It was probably just that.

  • @rafapenasparaamigos
    @rafapenasparaamigos 5 років тому +15

    Literally none of the characters in cursed child fit into what we knew of them

  • @oana-mariauliu5828
    @oana-mariauliu5828 5 років тому +35

    How many of us are thinking, "I told you so!"?

  • @theunderbite
    @theunderbite 5 років тому +10

    As one of the only "books" I read in 2017, I don't remember anything from it aside from the house sorting. Unfortunately forgettable
    After one reading 10 years ago, I can still remember the Minister's conversation from Half Blood Prince -- but nothing from Cursed Child.

  • @shakespeareaddict1165
    @shakespeareaddict1165 5 років тому +12

    I’m also confused as to why in the climax, Harry transfigured himself into “Goblet of Fire” Voldemort, when really he should have looked like an older Tom Riddle.

    • @Blipy
      @Blipy 4 роки тому +2

      ooooo good point.

  • @s.j.harker7291
    @s.j.harker7291 3 роки тому +9

    How did Bellatrix and Voldemort have a kid? Voldemort didn't even have a body until Wormtail made that weird potion, but that somehow created functioning genitals, and he was somehow interested enough in Bellatrix to use them?
    Just, what?

  • @srokachannel
    @srokachannel 5 років тому +7

    The funny thing is, it actually works really well as a play! But that is mostly due to special effects, which allows you to forget about the premise of the plot ;)

  • @ramywiles
    @ramywiles 5 років тому +18

    Wow. Squeak. My geekness is a-quivering.
    Also, because a lot of people say that it has to be seen to be properly enjoyed: [insert discourse about the accessibility of theatre here], and also, when the problems are with bare-bones elements like plot and dialogue, there's not much a live performance can do to change that. It doesn't matter if the Harry onstage is giving a compelling performance when he says he wishes Albus had never been born if that action in and of itself is contrary to Harry's entire characterization.

  • @brenda0006
    @brenda0006 5 років тому +17

    “I will not be including an Amazon affiliate link in the description, because it is not worth reading” hahaha savage. Honestly, I have owned it since it first came out and I let a friend read it first, she said it was garbage and I’ve just been putting off reading it for years... so now I’m certain that I’m not going to read it. 😁

  • @slightlyembittered
    @slightlyembittered 4 роки тому +5

    Just think how Harry, Ron and Hermione would react to watching this play. I imagine it would be like Team Avatar watching the Ember Island Players.

  • @nbblerxc
    @nbblerxc 3 роки тому +8

    Am I the only person that thinks the time travel used in poa is the best form of time travel to use? Using a linear timeline loop is waaaay better than alternate timelines

  • @birkkrabbedewaal8583
    @birkkrabbedewaal8583 3 роки тому +3

    "You where named after 2 of the greatest men i ever knew goku naruto."

  • @alexandermutsaers2693
    @alexandermutsaers2693 4 роки тому +10

    "I am not a J.K Rowling hater."
    It seems like she took that as a challenge several months later on her Twitter account...

  • @ericagoehring1089
    @ericagoehring1089 4 роки тому +5

    This book actually made my thirteen year old son cry! He was so deeply disappointed.

  • @BodiLY0422
    @BodiLY0422 5 років тому +11

    “It was not worth my time, and it will not be worth yours. There will be no Amazon affiliate link to buy it, because it’s not worth me recommending to anybody.” Mic drop!!
    I came here for a slaughter, and am so happy bathe through the blood of your review Daniel 🤣

  • @kingofkeys93
    @kingofkeys93 4 місяці тому +2

    I love how she says its cannon years ago. BUT, ive never come accross a box set that includes the cursed child with the OG 7.

    • @NIN948
      @NIN948 Місяць тому

      @@kingofkeys93 stealing this comment

  • @senemix_rotiv
    @senemix_rotiv 5 років тому +18

    To this day I still don't know why I bought this book. I knew it wouldn't be good, since JK Rowling didn't write any of it (all she did was endorse it and make it canon, for some weird reason), but I never expected it to be so awful. It doesn't even look like the author knows the characters he's writing. It probably gets some praise as a play for its effects on stage, but the script is bad from the premisse to the dialogues and the way the characters are written. I keep the book as part of my Harry Potter collection, but if I knew that I wouldn't have spent my money on it, that's for sure. It's one of those things we best ignore and forget it ever happened.

    • @princessthyemis
      @princessthyemis 5 років тому

      couldn't have said it better myself!

    • @silverkyre
      @silverkyre 5 років тому

      I think the only thing I've seen as to why is that the play itself is very good and people really do like and enjoy it. I get why they would release the script since it was going to be impossible to see but meh

    • @paris5548
      @paris5548 5 років тому

      Amelle Kyre I saw the play on Broadway and the acting is great, but the plot overall, ehhhhhh

  • @linamina3600
    @linamina3600 2 роки тому +3

    Cursed child is the first book I remember not finishing. When I recently brought it up my mother only remembered me complaining the entire time I tried to read it.

  • @dillonpatterson4310
    @dillonpatterson4310 4 роки тому +6

    His name was always albus severus, from the ending of book 7, so blame JK rowling.

  • @JJJBunney001
    @JJJBunney001 4 роки тому +2

    Album Severus Potter sounds like a spell they'd use to make sculptures

  • @dancersupreme3023
    @dancersupreme3023 4 роки тому +6

    I bought the book, read it thinking we could have a fun time seeing how the best generation of the Wizarding world is doing, but... I really was disappointed. I still have it sitting on my shelf with my other Harry Potter books and small trinkets, but I keep it on the side in the corner kinda covered up by other things on the shelf.
    It’s sad since that book had so much room to explore and grow in the Wizarding world but they went with time travel in a weird way that doesn’t make sense on the note of how time travel was explained to us in The Prisoner Of Azkaban

  • @RandomPerson8908
    @RandomPerson8908 5 років тому +10

    I hate myself for even typing this, but it's Rowling, pronounced like "bowling." The middle part of her name is pronounced "ole," not "owl." Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

    • @Hessenball
      @Hessenball 3 роки тому +1

      I pronounce her Wowling
      But to defend myself with a German Acsend it's Wowwling or RRRowwling

  • @tiannarice624
    @tiannarice624 5 років тому +13

    “Who is this guy and why is he writing Harry Potter” more like WHY IS HE RUINING MY CHILDHOOD?
    I pretend Cursed Child didn’t happen. I’ve read it and it’s been filed in my brain as bad fan fiction.

    • @elanor2006
      @elanor2006 5 років тому

      Because it never happened, well maybe in the Wrong Universe, but not in This One !!! The real ending to Harry Potter was : "All WAS WELL "

  • @katofletters6809
    @katofletters6809 4 роки тому +4

    What bugs me about Harry Potter's time travel is how inconsistent it is. The time travel in _Prisoner of Azkaban_ is some of the best in all of popular fiction. But the very mechanics that made it work so well there (and also made it incapable of breaking the universe) are tossed out in The Cursed Child. There's no self-consistency of either the plot or Novikov variety. A real shame.

  • @Supaawesomeification
    @Supaawesomeification 5 років тому +7

    If you think you’re disappointed, I waited in line for the release... yikes was that a letdown

  • @TheSixOfSwords
    @TheSixOfSwords 5 років тому +3

    Im so happy Daniel's channel is growing

  • @alchemypotato
    @alchemypotato 5 років тому +35

    I'll be straight up: for me Cursed Child is pretty much so bad it's a good. Reading it for the first time was one of the most joyful and hilarious couple of hours I've ever had. Jack Thorne's utterly fails to capture the continuity and spirit of the story and characters and just basically straight up wrote bad fanfic. While reading it I marveled as he unironically used tropes I've read in fanfic. Marveled as he used the same sort of OOC takes on characters that can be seen in bad fanfic. That said, there are things I enjoy in a not ironic way. I really love Scorpius Malfoy as a character for instance. And there are little moments throughout the story. But mostly... it's a hot mess. And now let's get ready for a hundred comments insisting everyone has to SEE the play because obviously everyone has the time and the money for that and it isn't at all something that is inaccessible for most readers.

    • @Hessenball
      @Hessenball 3 роки тому +1

      I now know why I like curesd Child

  • @randomusername429
    @randomusername429 3 роки тому +2

    4:13 I guess, technically, the children's names were from the original series. In the epilogue of the Dealthly Hallowes they say the names of Harry and Ginny's children.
    I really like your review though. Very well thought out 😁

  • @prigg88
    @prigg88 5 років тому +28

    I know JK didn't write it. And can I possibly bum you out? Jack Thorne is the main writer, I believe of Cursed Child. He is a British playwright, radio playwright and screenwriter. He's written on shows such as Shameless and Skins (I think Shameless was shown over in the States, not sure about Skins). He also wrote National Treasure (starred Robbie Coltrane i.e. Hagrid & Julie Walters i.e. Molly Weasley) which won a BAFTA (a British Emmy).
    I didn't like National Treasure, I thought it was boring. I've seen a trailer for a film he wrote, and that trailer also shows signs that I'd be bored by it in the same way I was bored by National Treasure.
    The other thing is he is down as the writer of the BBC TV adaptation of His Dark Materials, which is why I'm not looking forward to it.
    His imdb page - www.imdb.com/name/nm2113666/
    Also the time turner thing. I wouldn't mind the time turner thing if it had kept to the POA style time travel of a closed loop. That means no one could go back in time and change things because they would've already gone back in time and changed things, they just make sure everything happens as it did the first time.

    • @morbid333
      @morbid333 4 роки тому

      From what I've heard, Skins was shown on MTV in the US, but I think it was pretty heavily censored. Then they made their own sterile remake of it.

    • @henrywayne5724
      @henrywayne5724 4 роки тому

      Add Enola Holmes to his list, which was actually good.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 Рік тому

      His Dark Materials is actually good.

  • @16050390
    @16050390 5 років тому +16

    Harry naming his kid Albus Severus was established and done at the end of Deathly Hallows, so it was J.K. Rowling who came up with that. Not the dude who wrote this.

  • @killjoy004
    @killjoy004 5 років тому +12

    The north remembers is a fanfic of post ADWD. And compared to Cursed Child it is a masterpiece. If you don’t mind fan writings you should definitely read it.

    • @elanor2006
      @elanor2006 5 років тому +1

      Oh and is this fanfic better than the fanfic of Game of Thrones Season 8 , even though it's not that hard...On a serious note, if The North Remembers is a good post ADWD fanfic can you please tell me the author and the site where you've read it, I'm interested in good A Song of Ice and Fire content/writing.

  • @dieNatoren
    @dieNatoren 5 років тому +2

    Danielll great video as always; I feel the hype that your channel will receive in the future! I think your decision to go full time, was the right! I know that there will be no lack of content, but please remember the wish of a "Dark" review. It is a great series once you are in. And a question at the end: will you ever do a review of none fantasy book stuff? Cause there is soo much more to read, also out of genre and many people miss this... Maybe you make some motivation video on the topic "why to read" ? It would be perfect to inspire even more people to do one of the underrated but greatest things in the world. Reading.
    Greetings 🇩🇪

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 5 років тому +11

    *Looks at the thumbnail*
    Oh look, a positive review. He's not even trying to burn it.

  • @cityman2312
    @cityman2312 4 роки тому +1

    Ginny called that owl Pigwidgeon though, so it's not too bad that Stepford Ginny of the epilogue did not get to name her kids.

  • @n.u.k.2188
    @n.u.k.2188 5 років тому +3

    Albus Severus' name is from the epilogue of Deathly Hallows. So...

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 4 роки тому +4

    I think Rowling was held captive by the writers and they’d only let her go if she approved of the “book”.

  • @seanian8986
    @seanian8986 3 роки тому +7

    2016 me: there's no way JK Rowling could have written this
    2018 me after seeing The Crimes of Grindewald: okay she definitely wrote this
    2020 me after she publishes both the terf manifesto and Troubled Blood: WHY HAS GOD ABANDONED US

  • @JPMitchell31721
    @JPMitchell31721 4 роки тому +2

    When I first saw this book in a store, I picked it up intending to buy it. Then I saw that it was written as a play, so I put it right back.

  • @orcocan
    @orcocan 5 років тому +7

    also her name is pronounced to rhyme with "bowling", just so you know :-)

  • @lisdraconis2212
    @lisdraconis2212 4 роки тому +1

    Regarding the names. Every character has a first and second name. Harry is called Harry James Potter and Hermoine is called Hermoine Jean Granger. Ron Billius Weasley. Ginevra Molly Weasley. Tom Marvolo Riddle. It is common in GB to do that.
    Albus Serverus Potter is the full name of Harrys son. The second name is often chosen after either a parent or someone close to the Family.

    • @MShaiqable
      @MShaiqable Рік тому

      Exactly! Everyone in the HP world had 3 or more names. Dumbledore had like 5 or six..

  • @Divinemakyr
    @Divinemakyr 5 років тому +4

    Random question: do you know of The Horus Heresy series, it's an absolutely monstrous book series set in the Warhammer universe, and it is like at least 7,000,000 words. For comparison, Wheel of Time, including New Spring, is only like 4.4 million.

  • @sydneyskousen2030
    @sydneyskousen2030 6 місяців тому +1

    I remember reading this book in like 2 days when I was 12, I sat there and thought, “What the heck was that fever dream and why was it published to be canon?” And like 6 years later I still think the exact same thing. How did this get so many good reviews as a play and why do they want to turn it into an actual movie?(I’ve heard mentions of plans for it) Has everyone gone mad? There has to be at least one executive that sees reason.

  • @CTBridge
    @CTBridge 5 років тому +43

    Why are you reviewing fanfic, Daniel?

    • @GEORGEGEORGEIII
      @GEORGEGEORGEIII 5 років тому

      Because it’s not fanfic? JK Rowling wrote the story (plot) for the play and endorsed it as a canonical continuation of the books. Regardless of how you feel about its quality, IF you have the original author with a story credit and an endorsement as canon, then it’s canon, regardless of how you feel. Meanwhile, the play with its nine Olivier awards in London and 6 Tony awards in Broadway continues to chug along with capacity audiences every night and no end in sight to its run...

    • @pretendtheresaname9213
      @pretendtheresaname9213 4 роки тому +4

      @@GEORGEGEORGEIII Why is he reviewing fanfic, George?

    • @thehoboking2028
      @thehoboking2028 3 роки тому +1

      @@GEORGEGEORGEIII r/whoosh

  • @paytonmiller768
    @paytonmiller768 4 роки тому +26

    Watching this eleven months later
    “I am not a big JK Rowling hater”
    ...yet

  • @catcreme
    @catcreme 5 років тому +5

    "literary version of a concussion" not even a minute in the video and I lost it

  • @CJCroen1393
    @CJCroen1393 5 років тому +14

    Wait, Daniel, did you forget that Albus Severus was Harry's son's name in the original book's epilogue too? Because the way you talked about it made it sound like you thought it was made up for the play.
    I agree with the rest of this review, though.
    PS: Ms. Rowling, you could have been woke and actually have it make sense this time, but NOPE! Apparently Albus and Scorpius are "just friends" and Scorpius is in love with Rose even though he never interacted with her!

  • @TheEddie1910
    @TheEddie1910 5 років тому +3

    9:22 ANd that same thing is also true for the Fantastic beasts movies. Inconsistencies and outright canon-opposing things are thrown our way.

  • @jackwriter1908
    @jackwriter1908 2 роки тому +1

    _Albus Severus Potter, you have the names of two great Headmasters, one of them was a Slytherin. They both were constantly talking about me having to sacrifice myself for the greater good. Oh and the other one was a Gryffindor, have fun at school!_

  • @unicornistalive2485
    @unicornistalive2485 4 роки тому +3

    I so much feel this video. I hated the book so much, I think it is a shame to all the other Harry Potter stories. But I went to the theatre on stage and I swear this was one of the best things I’ve ever seen. The way they play with choreography, effects and the stage is just incredible. If you have the chance, go and watch it, it’s really worth it. The magic it brings to live covers the bad plot and characters.

  • @salamadestron
    @salamadestron 5 років тому +1

    Albus Severus works as a single line in the epilogue but trying to elevate that one note character to a protagonist is where the problems start.

  • @iainhansen1047
    @iainhansen1047 4 роки тому +5

    I am really into reading fanfiction so when I read this I really enjoyed it. Then I realized that I had read it as if it was a fanfiction because it is VeRY similar to so many fanfictions I have read. Which as you can imagine, is a very bad thing.

  • @kelceyclark9917
    @kelceyclark9917 3 роки тому +1

    A little bit into 4:00 I wanted to mention something. While yes, Albus Severus Potter is dumb, it wasn't exactly the choice of the playwriters. It was already there in the epilogue of HP

  • @matthewc3135
    @matthewc3135 5 років тому +4

    To be fair he had named his kid in Deathly Hallows.

  • @KierTheScrivener
    @KierTheScrivener 5 років тому +2

    Haha yeah no plan on this yet to here a good review, though I heard the play effects are spectacular. I am also just so happy that everytime I watch on your channel I see you've grown. Excited for you 😀

  • @ThePathOfEudaimonia
    @ThePathOfEudaimonia 5 років тому +6

    Oh no, I did see your Goodreads review already... I am getting myself mentally ready to see an act of murder.

  • @AdrionProbe
    @AdrionProbe 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly the thumbnail just sums everything up accurately

  • @hillaryflood88
    @hillaryflood88 3 роки тому +2

    My sister has this crazy theory that JK never wrote her books...maybe found the series in its entirety and knew she was sitting on something that could really sell. Sent the first book out for publishing and bingo bango the rest is history. Sounds crazy but if you look at any other work and its clearly not on par with the HP series

  • @whoatemychocolate
    @whoatemychocolate 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, that opening aged like milk.

  • @Lokeshwar22
    @Lokeshwar22 5 років тому +4

    Cursed Child was the first book I literally threw away in a bin. Even Twilight had its moments. This otoh was plain travesty period.

  • @jamesmccullough9364
    @jamesmccullough9364 5 років тому +2

    Dang... 10:00-10:30 might be one of the most savage review moments I've ever seen 😂 You don't even want the kick-back from an affiliate link! lol, too good, bro.