2020 Indian Challenger Dark Horse Review | MC Commute
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Fresh to the boulevard for the New Year is Indian Motorcycle’s Challenger bagger. Positioned as a performance-oriented bagger-style cruiser, this Challenger ($27,499 as tested in the Dark Horse edition) picks up where the now-defunct Victory brand left off, giving motorcyclists a more macho alternative in the American-made V-twin segment.
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The Challenger’s heart is a new 60-degree PowerPulse V-twin with 108ci (1,769cc) of oversquare muscle. The liquid-cooled engine was developed in-house, by Indian, and backs up its meaty bark with 114 pound-feet of Metzeler tire-smearing torque at just over 3,000 revs.
ABS-enabled triple disc hydraulic brakes keep speed in check, however the calibration of the rear brake’s ABS could be enhanced, as the back brake cycles excessively when applied with moderate pressure.
Going hard on the throttle unleashes 103-hp (as measured on the dyno) of acceleration, which makes for a more thrilling experience as compared to other traditional heavyweight cruisers. As opposed to a traditional cable throttle connection, the Challenger uses a ride-by-wire throttle setup, just like the FTR 1200 S street tracker. Conversely, the clutch employs a cable-actuated configuration which neither feels as smooth, nor as responsive as a modern hydraulic setup. Another gripe: There isn’t a barrel-style adjuster atop the clutch perch making routine cable tension adjustment a pain.
Three selectable combined engine power and throttle maps are offered (Rain, Standard, and Sport). While we appreciate the adjustability, the throttle has a sweet spot. Here response is peppy, and well-metered, especially in the Sport setting. However, off idle there is a degree of throttle play before the engine responds. Not a big deal, but something that could be improved. The tactile functionality of the switch gear should be better too.
Rev it out or short-shift through each of the six gears and the Challenger happily complies, delivering a smooth yet punchy experience behind its oversize fixed fairing. A standard electric-adjustable windscreen provides even greater protection from the elements.
Make no mistake about it, this twin loves to spin, and rev it does, belting out an authoritative exhaust note that fills the cockpit. Vibration is muted at low rpm, but creeps strongly through the controls at higher revs. The buzz is powerful enough to open the latched front right storage compartment, where the USB input is located. Important note: Don’t leave the wireless ignition key fob in that pocket.
With its 6-gallon fuel tank topped off, the 839-pound Challenger feels sizable especially at low speeds. A reasonably low center of gravity, a 26.5-inch seat height, and light steering feel keep it from feeling clumsy, yet it isn’t as composed at parking-lot speeds as other bikes this size.
Conversely, at speed, the Indian’s cast aluminum frame delivers a taut ride. Ample ground clearance during spirited riding maneuvers is another big plus, as is grip from the Metzeler Cruisetec tires. An inverted fork and Fox-sourced shock provide upwards of 4.5 inches of suspension travel with damping that is neither too wollowy nor firm. Indian certainly did its homework, striking the right balance between sport-oriented handling and everyday comfort.
Speaking of comfort, the saddle is one of the best we’ve sampled. It cups the rider’s behind near perfectly holding them in place during spirited riding. Yet, it remains plush and supportive during 100-plus mile tours. A wide handlebar and floorboards make it easy to stretch out on, however it would be nice if Indian included a touring-friendly heel shifter. Standard and ultra-precise cruise control is another welcome feature as are the lockable hard cases which swallow 18 gallons of gear.
In addition to blacked-out styling pieces replacing chrome hardware, Dark Horse versions of the Challenger add traction control. Like most liter-class and above sized sportbikes, the system includes a smartphone chip-sized IMU. This gives the bike positional awareness, and can potentially mitigate loss of control by reducing engine power and brake pressure during certain riding conditions. GPS navigation inside the 7-inch touchscreen-compatible Ride Command display is also included. Curiously, heated grips are only available as an option.
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With these hugeass bikes you should consider putting the camera elsewhere, it's 30 minutes of looking at the dash 😑
Adam's a little guy. Give him a break. ;)
@@sdefiel3719 on the contrary! He is a 6 footer, just his GoPro is chin mounted and it doesn't work. Didn't work with the Harley a few weeks back, doesn't work with the Indian
@@todxbranko SIx feet? Really? Okay, well, I have seen how he rides kinna scrunched up alot. Maybe that has something to do about it too. Thx.
I was fixing to say the same thing and seen your💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Your Indian name shall be "Talks with Hands!"
Scott Grey or maybe Chews on Words 🤔
Dances with Soccer Moms (in SUVs).
Flails like the drowning man.
Haaaaa
Spleesh! He's not even bad. Most U.S tubers act like mentally challenged tweakers with their hands.
I’m raising my neck to see the road beyond that console while I’m watching the video 😂
for a few thousand mor you could have a harley? Then maybe putting in another 8k to get the motor of the harley to work as well as the indian
HD went POS on its customers. Indian all-day long
Depends what you mean by "work as well as". This serves a different customer than the HD big twins, so it really depends on what someone wants out of their bike as to which works better for them.
Agree with comments here. "For a few $$ more you could have a Harley."l Indian has better suspension, stronger motor, and better handling. You want to talk fit and finish?? What about the STANDARD locking bags or LED lights.
I'm pretty sure that reverse throttle action is the cruise "cancel" function. At least it is on the air cooled Indians. I like it. Cleaner than tapping brakes or having yet another button.
But the other fit and finish stuff is disappointing for that cost. If the rest of the bike was as premium as the engine it'd be a hell of a bike.
you're right about the cruise control, but it IS a hell of a bike.
Tip for the next time you review a bike with a large front fairing. Don't use a chestmount camera.
Very Fair Review Adam! You hit on all the things that I find of interest.
The saddlebags aren't loose, they are double latching, you have to close them all the way... my Chieftain has the same latches.
Does that bike come with a periscope?
LOL 🤣
Recommended for tall riders ;)
😂
In it’s 1st year of production looks real good. Curb appeal is spot on. The motor is sublime as is the suspension. But there a few details still yet to be refined. You alluded to the fit and finish, I agree. But all in all this should help encourage HD to reevaluate their current offerings. Life’s short, just buy the bike.
The saddlebags have a second lock position, push down on the lid once closed and they will lock tighter. Also, the throttle rolls forward to disengage the cruise control.
I'm actually surprised you felt the clutch pull required strength. In my review of this bike a couple of weeks ago I really felt it was among the lightest pull I'd ever felt in the American cruiser/bagger market.
Maybe it wasn't adjusted right??
@@3dee106 you have to take a panel off to adjust it. i lost interest already.
Maybe the cable needs lube. I don't see a reservoir.
@@3dee106 Maybe, but right out of the box I can't imagine how...
@@stevek8829 Lube can swell the inner liner of the cable. I believe it's teflon impregnated so, it is what it is. Compared to a hydraulic clutch, it does feel heavier...but it's not numb like them. I prefer a heavier pull with a cable anyway. I can feel what the clutch is doing and the freeplay is adjustable.
whicked review, constant relvant info no babling sounds like you realy know your stuff. Realy entertaining review well done
Shifting all the way through the gears with no clutch at 13:00 lol
Just a quick, small suggestion to Adam. I doubt he will even see it, but here it goes anyway: Right in the beginning, when you talk about the jacket, the gloves and the pants, would it be possible for you to point the camera at them for 2 seconds? Because when you say "if you want to know more about them, click the link in the description", I never click because I didn't get curious enough just by hearing the name of a product. But seeing such product makes all the difference. Cheers, buddy. Keep up the great work. 👍
Adam, I like your unbiased and thorough reviews! Keep up the good work!
I agree, it's a amazing bike in every aspect.
WOW! Super cool Bagger. Indian Challenger! Appreciate the honesty of the test analysis.
Glad Adam didn't shy away from pointing out the build quality on the controls and various components. Don't know why Indian didn't go for that high level of refinement expected in a pricey touring bike but then again I can't speak to the riding experience.
I think that wind tunnel blew their brains out. That shit looks like a snowmobile. Ridiculous price to match
Its cheaper than a harley so its competitive, wish we didnt have years of harley riders ruin the price of bikes
@@nativeoutdoors1780 it was the 50% import tax, that's still in effect, lobbied by Harley, and enforced by our great government. Hiking prices high and disallowing economic bikes to be imported. Go anywhere else, $2,000 max for a nice motorcycle. $400 brand new smaller/scooter.
The forward rolling throttle disengages cruise control :)
HD is the same
Yo, I heard you like fairing, so here's ALL OF IT.
FYI: when you change riding modes it Does Not change the output of engine power. It only changes the throttle response.
It looks like a giant car dash being shoved down the road in front. Wow, this video made me dizzy with all the hand and arm motion.
I can't even see the road ahead.
Can't watch a biking video if I can't see the road.
Think the choice of a camera on his chin was a bad choice.
I’ve ridden it, no visibility issues, no worse than a Road Glide, if not better.
You're not riding it so why do you need to see the road?
Is the visibility forward that awful, or is it the camera angle?
Seems like they put a front end of a car on there.
Mechcam 79
Sport bike suspension. Indian is a progressive forward thinking company hopefully will encourage other companies to improve their products.
Road Glide I love their products just thought the fairing looked like a car front end. My buddy has a Springfield classic and he loves it more than his fat boy.
And it costs more than your regular car
@@hujimix but wait for only 5 grand more we will paint it Black, unlock the software, and add on 50 bucks worth of TPMS.
The size and blocky shape of the fairing is the biggest turn off for me. It makes the bike look like it's going too flip over forward. Yuk!
-Got the opportunity to ride the Challenger several times at the Nov. 2019 Long Beach bike show. It was a bit warmer, in the upper 60's - lower 70's as I recall and I was surprised at the heat being thrown off from the engine on my right leg. I have ridden my share of air cooled big twins so I was expecting something more. My MT-10 gets warm too in the slow stuff, my Husky 701 I don't really notice anything. High compression ratios in 4 cylinder engines or this performance big twin are going to cost you some in comfort. Also, it's worth noting that this bike was a handful for me in the parking lot at slow speed in turns. I would suggest that this MC is for peeps with some past experience with heavyweight motorcycles. Although the faring mount keeps the steering light, it takes a toll with other miscellaneous factors which gave me the experience of a top heavy ride. Yes, once moving things get way more pleasant. The cornering demonstrated in this video was impressive. In the bikes I've tested like this, the BMW K1600 B excelled and really wound out through an impressive rev range. The torque was very good too but, I did miss that big twin, deep sound. Lastly, I find this MC's looks challenging. I did in my KTM 1290 too and still bought it for the performance and engineering, despite that. Today, the KTM looks better to me now than my initial feelings about it. But, from what little artistic instincts I possess, I'd wager that MC historians looking back some day are not going to be having much good to say about the appearance of the fairing.
I have one, it throws a bunch of heat
Great camera placement, Adam!
Man that is a nice sound. Sounds like a proper modern V-Twin, not like the engines from the ahem other manufacturer
Long nose Peterbilt 379 hood right there on that thing..
I was a TRUCKER, for 35yrs. I've worked on 2 Continents.
I HAD an '81 R100RS BMW. A "Fairing," can be AMAZINGLY EFFECTIVE. JS
The reverse throttle is there for a reason it is for your cruise cancel. It allows you to cancel in a hurry.
Well, it took you over ten minutes to say anything not orgasmically fabulous about the bike, but then you hit almost every thing bad that I noticed during my test ride from poor throttle response to thin plastic wobbly saddle bags. You don't need to pay ~$2000 more for the Harley though. They're about the same price. I think the fairing looks grossly HUGE and that helped me feel more comfortable with my decision to keep my bike from the OTHER motor company. Thanks for the most thorough review I have heard to date Adam.
difference between hd and indian, indian will drop the price. I have been talking with them, they dropped 2k plus so far. Hd wont do that.
@@robertwarner3191 Oh yes they will. Go to another dealer less than 70 miles away..You can't do THAT with Indian. :)
What’s the issue with naming competitors? Why don’t you call out what you’re comparing to instead of saying Pesky Japanese competitors and American twin manufacturers. That diminishes the feeling that I’m getting an unbiased review.
On a positive note: nice overall review. Thank you.
Fair review, nice job Adam. These baggers are just too damn expensive. Nice to see some good leaning in corners.
Nice review! However, the clutch in my opinion is extremely easy to squeeze. I agree with everything else you said in this review. I have this exact bike and it’s no Road Glide! It’s a beast that once aftermarket cams come out, will be a monster!
Cylinder deactivation at stop also decreases emissions.
AND, gives You BETTER MILEAGE.
and is also hard on your engine.
@@TheImtoomuch how?
I liked this review but kept wishing you'd mounted your camera higher on your helmet 😏
When you reached for the menu how were you upshifting? Was that automatic or were you just slapping the gears in?
It’s funny how you mentioned the sound of the Gold Wing starter. It sounds the way it does because it actually isn’t a starter. Like several other Honda bikes, it has an alternator/motor that is used as the starter and the creep/reverse motor. It’s a very strange experience for that large engine to just suddenly be on with almost no starter sound.
At this price point to not have a trunk or even heated grips makes no sense. I get it, a bagger with a lot of power so what. You can purchase a Honda Goldwing with more power, more features and will out handle this bagger for far less money. You can get a fully loaded GW with trunk and all features including a more modern front end for this same price. Oh well twin cylinder fans can't be turned.
Yeah, but in the end you have a ~shudder~ Gold Wing. Some folks just don't look very good in so much cheap plastic.
@@sdefiel3719 And what do you call the fairing and the bags on the bagger:? Cheap Plastic! Same goes for the Harley, cheap plastic! Some are just more modern than others, ie the Goldwing, lol. If that is your argument it is wasted on me, I want something a little more modern looking than 1910 tractor technology. To each his own. I will take my modern cheap plastic Goldwing and hit the hwy and go visit the last 11 states to ride in. Have a good day!
@@tennwingman3350 I said 'so much cheap' plastic. The saddle bags, small side panels and light weight fairing on the Harley are thicker and sturdier than the Honda. EVERYWHERE you look on the Honda there are buttons and covers and switches and panels of cheap plastic. I like plastic for its cost effectiveness and weight savings, not as a major motif.
@@tennwingman3350 gold wing does not have more power.
As an owner of a 2015 Honda F6b, this Challenger has my attention. Plastic biggest gripe in the f6b, along with wind buffeting and shoulder fatigue on longer rides. My 02 Night Train hurts less.
Is the smart lean technology worth the additional $4.5K? I’m seriously considering it, especially if that tech can help keep a rider out of trouble.
The entry level is great value, keep in mind that you also get the 3 ride modes & Dark Horse & Limited have upgraded trims. Maps are not necessary, if you don’t care about the look, base is fine. Problem w/ the lean tech is you don’t need it..., until you need it. If you ride hard in corners it may be worth it some day
I mean i understand people discussing the looks but let‘s be honest here: this is Indian proving they are a much more modern company than harley. This engine in a modern, sleek cruiser and they are lightyears ahead.
The engine is a ten year old, well pieces of it, Victory engine and the electronics are a few steps ahead of the Harley. Give Harley a few model years to catch up or pass them. It's a horse race.
S Defiel where‘d you get that? 😅
I mean even if they repurposed let‘s say 20 part designs, it‘s still a completely new engine and a it is new patent anyway 😄
Can’t touch the fit and finish of a Harley...and the Road Glide looks a lot better.
... and that gross, bulbous fairing negates all thought of the word 'sleek'.
I hate to say, but this fella does not seem qualified to critique this bike. An example is the "reverse" twist of the throttle, its there on purpose. One can disengage the cruise with a simple throw of the throttle. Further more.. He is attempting to use it more as a sport bike... not even close to a reasonable comparison beyond the front end. Sport bikes don't weigh 850lbs. So I will go to my local Indian dealer and test ride one myself along with a Goldwing and a Roadglide and figure this out for myself.
Just so you know. The throttle rolls forward to disengage your cruise control. Not many people are aware of that
Nice view of Begonia Park!!
Lol.
Lol.
Uh, nice 30 minutes of a dash. Yay.
I wish you would do a little more research before criticizing a bike. Twice you brought up the reverse operation of the throttle tube as being a bad thing. This is actually a feature and allows you to cancel the cruise control without hitting the brakes or pulling in the clutch. Reviews like this and you're overall lack of show structure is why I have almost completely stopped watching this show. I expected more from a professional motorcycle journalist...
Naw, it was a good review. Yeah, he missed the throttle thing, but Adam is much more experienced in smaller, faster bikes with fewer comfort features.
Do you think you could pick it up if it fell over?
I like your agressive riding but you're reckless. Riders like you is the reason lane splitting is illegal in some many other states. You do it unnecessarily.
I wish this bike had an XM satellite radio receiver, like the Honda Gold Wing; instead of just Bluetooth. My F-150 has one, and this bike costs as much as my truck.
Be careful. It might transform into Optimus Prime when Decepticons are around.
That 'bat wing' or fairing or whatever looks very suspicious!
I rode My RD350B to Motorcyclist's Office, on Sunset, 1976.
Had My Harley.
I want an Indian with a
FRAME-MOUNT Fairing.
I also want a Scout.
JS
Hey man. Is there a reason why you don't refer competitors by their name when doing these rides?
That's because it's ALWAYS raining in Germany. I was there, IN THE ARMY.
LOVE Metzlers.
LOVE Michleins.
I WANT Two Indians.
I want a Challenger.
I want a Scout Bobber.
JS
Does this bike feel as nimble as the 20 Honda Gold Wing Bagger or 20 BMW K1600b?
Ok question is for your money .. this or a road glide?
Adam that’s a great beginning, but we are looking for head 2 head between baggers Challenger Vs. RG or BMW B1600K. such competition will add a really good value to the magazine channel otherwise u will be like any reviews on UA-cam. I’m contemplating to buy one, I need a clear winner
I owned a Chieftain, Street glide and now the 1600 Bagger. Power wise BMW, brakes BMW, handling BMW I can go on but I think you get the pont. Only one who can decide is you, but if you're asking for a riders opinion the Beemer is ahead in those areas. If you want t-shirts, great paint and a Cultural Biker Family the H-D & Indian are for you.
@@specialed5098 I want the sound and vibe of V twin engine, and the power, breaks, and tech of the BMW. I think the best that combines all these attributes is the Indian Challenger correct me if I'mwrong. I have Chieftain S1, I want to upgrade to stage 2 or upgrade the whole bike to Challenger or RG or BMW B 1600K. I want professional motorcycle channels to make head 2 head comparisons. Now, whatever they are testing alone, doesn't give the audience a clear view and winner
They should add the standard Goldwing too.
@@specialed5098 ... and if you want your lady to be REALLY happy in back you probably WON'T want the BMW.
P.S.: Yeah, BMW has really ugly T-shirts. ;)
@@sdefiel3719 well see you are learning , couple of rides and my wife said " is it ok if I stay home ? You go with your friends and you won't have to go so slow with me on the back "
On your complaint about the throttle rotating forward, i do believe it's designed that way to turn off the Cruze Control. I just rode that bike. It was the best bagger i have ever riden,i would get the base model also hopefully Indian will listen like ducati did and improve the fit and finish.
I just traded my Vintage in on a Ruby Red Challenger, inappropriately named because Dodge has a Challenger. The Challenger Limited has the Lean control technology, ABS, traction control, highway bars, Ride Command screen. I added heated grips and highly recommend them. The clutch pull on mine is very light. My chin-mounted camera has a better view over the dash, IDK why. The throttle twists forward as one of several ways to turn off the cruise control; twist forward, the switch, clutch and brake also deactivate the cruise. This bike rides far better than any other motorcycle I've owned. It has nimble handling and a lighter feel than the Chief Vintage that I traded in, /cry I miss it, but I also love my new choice. I have just over 1000 miles on mine and I"m getting 40 mpg as my commute is 45 minutes long down side roads for 12% of my ride and interstate 88%. The audio is easy to control as is the cruise control. What is not easy is switching ride modes. You have to have a touch screen glove tip to change the settings or a bare finger. It only weighs 10 lbs less than my Vintage but has a much lighter feel and a more comfortable seat. Power out the wazoo, very smooth shifting experience. The clutch is easy to pull and there's no big CLUNK when I shift into 1st gear. I'm very happy with my purchase. The Challenger offers much more wind protection than my Vintage and this is allowing me to ride down to 20 degrees F so far with no troubles (Leather jacket with liner, chaps with liners, heated grips, polyester balaclava, full helmet (Icon Alliance), regular winter gloves. Thick palmed gloves will do you no good as the heat from the grips will not transfer to your hands as well. II rode it in the rain, rain mode, which feathers the throttle and works very well. I'm 6'1" 268 lbs and this bike is a perfect fit. Taller people may need an extended reach seat and a handlebar adjustment. Nice review. I hope this helps you. Maybe your clutch just needed adjustment. The dark horse does not come with highway bars, btw. It's an add on.
How much did it cost to add the heated grips or was it part of the deal? Thx.
@@sdefiel3719 $299 plus installation fee, but my dealer added them for free because I'm a regular customer.
The screen on the Challenger is pressure sensitive, does not require special gloves like a cell phone screen does. Push harder!
Is it normal that you can’t see the street over the Giant wall of man gadgets?
I’m getting the impression this is a more disconnected ride feel?
Intelligent and interesting critique.
I love the scenery in Irvine
Great video as usual.
indian needs so much styling help its crazy
Fantastic review! I love this bike.
And this is why I ride a naked bike, that front cowl/dashboard is so big you won't see anything 6-8 feet infront of you.
That is definitely a big dashboard, but to be fair I think his camera is positioned lower than his eyes, so he can probably see ahead better than us
@@justinbocchino5141 it's mounted to the chin of his helmet so even 3 inches higher you still can hardly see the road directly infront of you.
If you're looking 6' in front of you all the time you better be at parking lot speeds because you should be looking up to a 1/4 mile ahead at speed.
@@atvtinker01 Like that really needed to be said..? You must either be a new rider or unfamiliar with the fact that people live in places where they get snow and ice for 4-5 months of the year and the roads always have new potholes that you don't see until you're right infront of them so on a bike like this you'd likely be paying or a new front end every 2-3 months. You don't just look 1/4 mile ahead of you btw, you should constantly be adjusting where you're looking based on road conditions and traffic around you. If you can spot a pothole 1/4 mile ahead of you at 75+ mph you must have the vision of a hawk.
I guess if you’re 5’2”. Road Glide and Street Glides very similar.
He never has to worry about helmet hair...
I used to BE A BASS PLAYER, A LONGTIME AGO.
JS
Be too sloppah deh bass mon
Bass Player- I played the Acoustic String Bass Violin, in School. JS
@@johnspencer2560 Was it a 4 string upright double bass?
@@Bass.Player YES!
I've TEXTED Trump, JFKjr & ballomni- on The East Coast.
Tell Bob Ball, Spencer SENT you, from California.
(ballomni-UA-cam)
Obviously, Ball is Bob's lastname. Omni means "Many Ideas."
JS- Long Beach, Ca.
Do you have to shake key fob to get it to work?
Jon from Jon's Moto Garage would have found a way to wheelie this whale ;)
A cable activated clutch? Are you kidding me? Welcome to 1960 Indian.
Yeah, agree, test rode the Challenger, great bike, amazing power & brakes! Biggest complaint compared to my Road Glide, clutch is night & day harder to pull than my hydraulic
Another great video
That’s the one I want. I test drove the standard one. Once I found out that the gps wasn’t in the standard, as well as that Matt Black, I think I’ll go head and get the Dark Horse. But I took that baby up to 100mph 😂, I had to. I’m planning to get one next Summer some time. And 20:36 we can’t do that here in Florida. That’s a nice ticket here I found out. I noticed after moving here, but I’m from Cali🤟🏽. Still getting used to the rules here.
It's like watching a newb squid giving a bike review, no wonder this magazine is in dire straights. Raise your talent standards and you will raise your brand.
No heated grips on a $27k bike, don't get that
they are available and controlled by the touch screen. They are an option because not everyone needs them. I live in south Florida, they would be a waste for me.
@@IM-ce7zc I think you or rite
damn are those tire pressures supposed to be that high??!?!
It sounds like you actually liked it, not to much negativity in the review. The only cruiser guys that don't like this are just butthurt Harley fans haha.
Your more worried about telling everyone about your riding apparel than the blurry video...
The biggest issue I find with Indian is their lack of dealerships, they are so few and far between, what do you do when your on the road and need assistants, from where I’m st I don’t want to have to ride 60 miles to go to the dealership!
Thank you great review!
i'm impressed by the touch screen. it's pathetic how far behind BMW is with their touring bikes.
Bring it to the dealership and have them recalibrate the rear abs
Great video keep the good work
I love the Indian motorcycles, same with the victorys. To me they offer more for less than a Harley. I love Harleys as a show bike but these are all boxes. Great review and it's two wheels they all bring joy :)
M/Cist Magazine,
When You pulled away from that light,
You were trying to be a TRUCKER- You were SHIFTING WITHOUT THE CLUTCH.
I spent 35yrs on 18 wheels. I rode for 50.
I LIKE Metzler. I had 'em on My BMWs.
I want 2 Indians. I want a Challenger & a Scout "Bobber."
I SOLD My Dyna StreetBob, when I broke My Hip. It's in GERMANY NOW.
Look for JFKjr, soon.
JS- Long Beach
Worried about what the starter sounds like? And for a few thousand more you could have a Harley? I have owned a lot of harleys and they arent even in the same bracket as the Indian. Indian you get way more for your money, also a lot of Indian dealers will warranty the bike for life! Best riding bikes on the road by far!
Why in the hell can't you mention Harley by name? It's supposed to be a review so refer to their competitors.
I like the way you ride but I be thinking it's scary lol
At 13:04, you accelerate from a stop light, and you're shifting without using the clutch? Your left hand is pointing at center screen and I can hear shifting using no clutch. Huh?
I noticed that too. How is that possible unless it has the ability to shift gears without the clutch lever
If timed right you can do clutchless up shifts on any bike. For a brief second when you close the throttle it unloads the friction in the drivetrain and allows the shift dogs to move without damage. If your timing is off you can cause damage though.
That's an interesting bike. Not the sort of thing I'd be interested in buying, but my dad is thinking about ditching his Vulcan and upgrading to something else, I bet he's more the target audience for this.
Throttle rolls forward to shut off cruise control
the black on black is pretty
I stopped watching about 2 minutes into the actual ride. Can't stand having to look at that hideous fairing and not seeing over that tub.
"For a few thousand more you can have a Harley Davidson " lol a similar Harley is the same price (Road Glide Special)
The Challenger kills the RG, lol
The scenery behind the beginning of the video is so beautiful, where is this?
newport beach
@@Sasha-lc3zc I see, thank you very much.
@@no.1shadow279 it's a neighborhood in Newport beach called Corona Del Mar
Waiting for the Chieftain Dark Horse Review
You comparing with the price 27,500$ ??
For your info. Harley 114ci doesn't have remote control sadellebag 🔒 lock & or automatic windshield & traction control not on basic model, even horse power is different !!!
Wow good review sir nice bike
Roadview??
25:12 exactly how I was Ariana Grande to sound 👍🏻