The 2020 Indian Challenger is an INSANE SLEEPER... which I dropped.
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2019
- Yeah... that was embarrassing. But I regret nothing, this thing was a BLAST.
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FYI guys, i took a ride on it on a rainy day (not heavy), just the lower part of my jeans got wet, nothing else :)
Very entertaining review brother, and well saved at the end! Maybe this is the bike that brings me back to having a cruiser again. We shall see. Thanks again mate.
This bike is a monster! Definitively I'll buy one! Goodbye Harley Davidson! Hello Indian!!!! Cheers from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil! Ride safe!
Glad to have you back to riding videos. That bike is a dream come true.
Just took delivery of my 2020 Challenger limited. Your enthusiasm matched mine with the first few rides for sure ! I'm accessing the bike as Road Glide (just sold my 2011 103 Street Glide for this bike) meets Gold Wing (similar HP to the new GW) meets sportbike/sport tourer (My BMW RT1200 is not as pretty, but a better all weather tourer and my BMW S1000rr validates that I know HP). This bike takes a little of each of those and gives you a hybrid of them. I can see that Polaris is targeting a slightly younger crowd, getting that loyalty going for future purchases. I'm sold so far (just did my first fill up, 36.6 mpg nothing to brag about, but still impressed with the comfort/performance/look of the bike for a high performance cruiser), and a good thing as I'm an owner and my wife (bought her a 2015 Indian Vintage in '16, she never missed her HD Deluxe a day after that and has bugged me to join the Tribe ever since) is now smiling saying , "told you so". Thought I wanted a Chieftain because of the ride and handling superiority to my Street Glide, glad I waited for the Challenger to arrive.... ;)
Damn, you were gettin' it on. Almost looked like you popped a wheelie at one point . All the demo ride videos I've seen so far, everyone seems to be impressed with the bike. Thank you sir!
Glad you had fun riding the Challenger. Ya have to watch that weight on slow tight turns on a big bagger, I learned that the hard way.....
This was different, haha. I can navigate the slow turns just fine on the other big bikes just fine. This thing was just... _more_.
Meatball Rebel hey as long has he isn’t parking next to you it’s fine right meatball? Or should we ask Kevin?
I’m totally joking I still parked with you after that lol. The fact these bikes feel like they don’t weigh shot sometimes they catch you off guard
@@TheBeardedBobber I will always park next to you now 🤣
Goldwings have all the bells and whistles maybe not as many as the big Indians, but very uncomfortable seating position, I’ve had an 05 Wing, 08 Harley Ultra Glide, 2010 Harley Road Glide, and a Victory Vision, and my 16 Indian Roadmaster is by far the most comfortable, the Vision was very close in comfort
Yes, if you like the lay back feet forward riding position, then the Gold Wing is not the one! 😎
Hey guys, I BOUGHT IT :-) in Sandgold, I ordered the following:1- Engine guard front & back.2- Roadmaster tour pack.3- Roadmaster Lower fairing.
Congrats! Hope you enjoy it.
Thanks a million for the review :-) I was screaming like a 11 year old girl on my first ride ;-)
Never use front brake in slow speed maneuvers my bro. Rear only, friction zone and a touch of throttle and it won't want to fall over on you like that.
Correct. This wasn't an intended low-speed maneuver though. It was intended as a stop to back up and turn more but the bike decided it wasn't done turning.
InvictvsNox Except you said, “ooh, not turning.” That statement appear to coincide with you making a u-turn in the video. But you weren’t making a maneuver. But if what you were doing was stoping, then don’t use the front brake to complete your stop unless the front wheel is completely straight.
Tyrone Davis exactly if the front wheel is turned and grab front brake bike will wanna fall over turning or stopping. That’s why so many do when trying to move bike in garage. Roll it forward with wheel turned grab front brake to stop and over it goes haha.
💯 ACCURATE / however you'll find slight rear brake pressure when maneuvering in tight turns especially U-turns, to be very helpful.
@@InvictvsNox Because you grabbed the front break. Don't.
You know what...I enjoyed the test ride EVEN at the end...it was only a miscalculation of the turning radius OF the bike...glad you didn't hurt yourself trying to keep it from falling..good job as clearly it's your 1st time on it. With that BEING said GREAT video and you BEING 6'2" like myself I'm very interested in this bike hopefully you'll do more demo rides...nice realistic video..thank you so much.
It's a great bike. I just took one for a test ride. I agree this bike is awesome. No dumping here. Slow speed rear brake and clutch control help in the slow speeds.
A great video. Thanks for taking us along..
Sure looks like fun dude !!!!! Nice job!
#supportmvc. Indian moto world 🤘🏽
I could feel the power through my TV and 5.1 Surround Sound 🤑
That Challenger looks awesome!
I just bought one of these about a month ago and i love it so far. I totally agree with the seat tho always feels a little cramped. I've got a new saddlemen seat waiting on it to get back from the shop. which will hopefully make that better.
Let me know what you find!
I believe the engine is single overhead camshafts (SOHC) ---- not double overhead valve camshafts (DOHC).
You are correct. I was thinking of the number of valves per cylinder when I mistakenly said that. It's a 4 valve, SOHC engine.
Thanks for that correction. :)
The cockpit looks better than the road glide that's for sure!
So many harley fan boys hate indian but there is no reason to hate their bikes, they are far superior to harley power wise, look, feel, price..... just everything
Not looks, everyone copies Harley. But yea power and performance I think they are superior. But fit and finish doesn’t compare.
Your actually wrong on most parts... a challenger might be faster but the m8 has plenty of power even stock... if speed is all that matter then the ninja is the best bike made... being the fastest production bike... Polaris bikes have a terrible color choices poor engineering poor customer service and still lack what is to most important options ... if you want a moving windshield then Polaris is for you.. here is a video you should watch... near the end your find the Polaris motor is shot after a 4000 mile ua-cam.com/video/RwWD-b9qr58/v-deo.html
@@sk8777kid1 everyone doesn't copy Harley,Hondas flat 6 wings an BMW k series in line 6 ? That's what so neat bout these different motorcycles. Many different choice
I like Harleys and have owned 5 in my 50 years of motorcycling. Currently own a 2016 Chieftain following my ‘09 Ultra Classic. I miss the ‘shake’ of the ‘rubber glide’ but like the quality feel of the Indian. I am not necessarily ‘brand loyal’ and wonder how the Challenger compares ti 5he Honda Gold Wing as a long distance tourer? 😎
Good to hear from you again bro. Hopefully your fortunes have changed. Cheers
I've got a new job. Holding out for the best. Thanks, bud.
Amazing how every person that reviews this bike has to giggle with surprise at some point in the video. I rode the Chieftain Dark Horse before buying my 2020 Challenger Limited. No comparison. The seat on the Chieftain was uncomfortable to me. The Challenger is an unbelievable bike !
The Scout videos were the same way. People got a big kick out the crazy power and acceleration.
@Battle Born Renegades MC -I was comparing the seat comfort and ride of the 2019 Chieftain DH I rode to the 2020 Challenger I now own.
Congratulations
Holy Balls 😂
Love the white indian dark horse, metallic red is beautiful but the whit is soo good
The handlebars don't look as comfortable as the Harley, the bull horn bars would be better than the challengers
That sat nav is amazing looking
Thanks for these indian reviews. I'm really thinking of a new bike. I've been away from bike's for 9 year's, had to sell for purchase of our first house but I've only riden super sport bikes. I just got a metric cruiser. Yamaha Roadstar 1600 and felt a bit weird compared to my past bike and of course being away for 9 year's. I love the bike. But I also want a new indian. Was looking at scout but maybe something more relaxed like Springfield or something like it. Thanks again, keep up the good content.
No, thank you for watching!
So glad you didn't drop it! Bet that was squeaky bum time!
I'm not sure if *technically* it was a drop or not... all I know is I'm still feeling it in my hip and groin.
Never hulked a big +800lbs bike up like that before 😂
@@InvictvsNox I had a similar experience with a Victory Magnum once!
@@InvictvsNox looked and sounded to me like it was NOT a drop. I wouldn't be surprised if Indian gave you a hard time about scraping floorboards, if you even did, but even that wouldn't count as a drop. you saved it bro.
It looks to me like this bike MORE than met the hype. The FTR wasn't a bad release but it didn't quite meet the hype. This one nailed it and then some. Assuming their 25K road miles and 1 million simulated miles worked the bugs out, Indian out-did themselves with this bike. This could be one of the hottest new releases in years. Hail to Indian!
JustMe A friend of mine who was a long time HD owner just traded in his 2017 Ultra Limited for a Challenger. After a road testing the Indian he said there’s no comparison; the Challenger won by a knock out.
@@gwynnromano5881 That seems to be the consensus. I'm definitely ready to test ride one. And, if it's all they say, I'll be pulling the trigger.
@@UnrulyRider No, I'm just kind of going by the "audience created hype". It was built up for so long and Indian teased it for so long, my perception is that a lot of people were expecting something a little more. Not that it's not a great bike. I'm sure it met the official, Indian marketing hype but the audience at large kind of over-hyped it. Again, this is just from the many reviews I've watched on UA-cam. I'm sure it met your expectations.
Well if you like it fine.... it I would disagree with it being such a great thing it’s probably an ok bike..so is the he Honda rebel.. I looked into Polaris but I went with a Harley road glide limited... the challenger has a few more horsepower and might outrun the road glide but I have said on a couple other videos I have already rode mine across country two up loaded heavy and the 114 will do 90+ down the interstate without a problem... if I want to win races and that’s what’s important I’ll buy a ninja... fastest production bike made... the dash is butt ugly the front is very square.. challenger limited has 3 color options no 2 tone.. road glide limited has 8.... no tour pack option no lowers .. no heated grip option... it does have moving windshield... if you want to drag race... which to me is like saying I want to buy a Cadillac to race with... its touring... but if you want to race and play with the windshield this might be your bike... it over all I see nothing special and we will see how the motor does .. Polaris is known for poor engineering and poor customer service
@@stevexaxa3619 Power and torque aren't just used for, "racing". Dumb thing to say. As far as colors, it's only recently HD figured out WTH a color wheel is. 99% of the HDs on the road are black. I only need one color so it doesn't matter if they offer 3 or 50. You ride your plain vanilla, one-in-every-driveway chevy. I'll stick with Indian.
I'd love one, but it'll take me some time to scrape together the 27k
Man that thing is sharp!
I assume that you have never ridden a half decent sports tourer.
Like why are you talking about the Springfield for ? I wanna know how it compares to a Harley Roadglide . Good job though. Entertaining!
Hope they come out with with this platform on a Vintage or Springfield where you can strip it down and remove bags and windshield when you want... I'll buy when they do! Did your front wheel catch air when you punched it at the end of the ride?
That's what everyone seems to want and ask! I think it may have a wee bit.
I was thumbs up #69 😁👍
That was the best demo ride vid I've seen on any bike! The smiles factor is what matters.
Much appreciated. It wasn't my favorite review of mine due to the restrictive nature of demo day group rides, but it was a great time nonetheless. :)
I started laughing when you were giggling. Great video my friend. Ride safe.
It took me by complete surprise. If it had been in 2nd gear, I'm fairly confident the front wheel would have caught air.
@@InvictvsNox That matte white is SEXY.
Hi there! Did you feel the cold wind over your legs? It seems the fairing protects the legs a little bit. Thanks
Over my legs, yes. But only over my legs. I believe the other models come standard with closeouts.
Great video bro!,
I’m looking at this bike and the road glide. As much as I like Harley, I think if I hop on the Indian I might convert.
I hear they're better in every way!
no one wants to answer my questions about limited service centers. A bike is only good as the availability of mechanics to work on it and there are plenty of Harley authorized and non authorized mechanics.
When I first took one out for a test ride, I was like a 16 year old girl laughing, giggling in my helmet as I took it up to 100mph, my God! Yes, the bike is definitely a freakin beast🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽. I almost dropped it as well as I was pulling back in to the dealership. Everyone, and I mean everyone screamed as I was going down in slow motion😱😱😱OOOOOH, NOOOOOO!! I yelled out loud, “I got it, I got it 👌🏽”🤣🤣. The fear that came over their faces was a little priceless. My feet were already on the ground as the bike was going down. I was trying to put the window back down as I was pulling in🤷🏽♂️. Note to self, don’t do that again while coming to a stop. At least until I get comfortable with all the little switches😂. 800 pound bike 😮💨. Thank God I didn’t let it hit the ground. Again, definitely a perfect bike👌🏽.
You know if you put a performance intake and tune your scout you would experience the same wow with spending a few hundred bucks
Sport mode doesnt have anything to do with the computer. It's just the amount of fuel injected based on throttle percentage. So sport mode gives you 100 percent fuel injection at 25 percent throttle pull.
Do they has Electric Blue?
Nice seeing Newport News bought my bike there
It's a great dealership for sure!
Awesome man!! That’s the color I want too!
That clutch was a little weird to get use to. Indians new clutch assist. Kinda felt like a hydraulic clutch to me with its release style.
Ya the bike has a speed limiter around 112. I didn’t know that until I took it out. I don’t think I would take it off since it doesn’t even feel like you’re going that fast.
Dude, it gives you SUCH a false sense of how fast you're actually going. Very dangerous!
InvictvsNox agree 100% was so much fun though. We were smashing on the freeway in my demo ride.
That was fun to watch. I was hoping this bike would be a big Scout, sounds like it is.
I was thinking the same thing! The Scout is a little monster and this is it's big brother. Or daddy. Or something.
Wish it was more comparable to the Dyna... so this, sans the fairing and the tech, but I'm sure there's a market
@@HoustonT17 I see it happening.
If they can put the power plus motor In a chief black it out with out oauiy a premium for 10¢ of powder coating and redesign the body (especially the headlight bucket and the from fender) and keep the price at 15k with ABS and cruise control standard. I might just switch to an American bike
Thomas Houston I’m that market
Wow, very impressive...I would like to see a fairing less version of this bike, just like the HD Road Kings, come on Indian make it and I will be inline for the naked and no fairing style...thanks for sharing
dcdell2008 it was a great platform to put this new motor on. I think you will see this on many Indians in the future unless they’re motor issues. Lose that 60lb fairing and that bitch will rip!
dcdell2008 would love if the fairing could be removed... but I’m still buying one
They will be coming out with one without the fairing a quick release windshield
Agree - Triumph R3 is NOT a touring proposition 😎
If they can put the power plus motor In a chief black it out with out oauiy a premium for 10¢ of powder coating and redesign the body (especially the headlight bucket and the from fender) and keep the price at 15k with ABS and cruise control standard. I might just switch to an American bike
Japanese bikes are excellent and hard to beat in terms of quality and performance.
I'd say ride what you're happy with, but there's definitely a reason I hopped onto the Indian train from Suzuki. :)
LOL that dude at the end with the leather jacket on wasn't having any of your BS. he was not pleased with you.
Yea I’m callin bs, a sloppy maneuver shows it’s on the rider not the bike. I’ve had bad low speed turns where I put my foot down but I didn’t blame the bike because “it” wanted to keep turning. Gtfoh
new sub. Great video!
Thanks for your support!
The oil system on this motorcycle is Questionable ? As the engine oil also lubricates primary drive and transmission.
Hello fellow American. Those of us that have been riding the better built Japanese bikes have had this for a while, works flawlessly. You have nothing to worry about I assure you. Just follow the maintenance schedule and it will be fine.
Dry sumps should be left in 1979 where they belong.
Hey dudes! Super happy at the positive feedback and all the love left on this vid. I know these aren't the well put-together deep dives you see on major networks, but rather the first impressions captured in the raw, and I believe they provide a very unique value on their own.
That said, I'd love to hear from you guys on what's missing. What can I do to improve upon these types of vids?
and that's exactly why its a better review. none of the fluff or padding of a lot of the other reviews. straight up raw review from a regular guy; like us.
If one version had a tour pack and lowers... if it had some decent color options and the dash was not so but ugly it would almost compare to a road glide
Bangladesh a bag day .
AMINUL As the recalls pile up at Polaris, the trouble gets deeper and deeper. In two years, Polaris vehicles were involved in 247 fires, three deaths, plus 30 burns and other injuries. More than six lawsuits from burn victims are pending - including one filed last week - while several others have settled.
Haha I could right a book right from the internet and forums of unhappy customers spend your 30,000+ it’s your money i gave them consideration but after some research there is no way I’ll be buying one
Sales are also dropping but Polaris hides it unlike A worsening sales decline
Polaris Industries is not transparent at all when it comes to telling you how its motorcycle business is performing. Where Harley breaks down sales and shipments by geographic region and type of motorcycle, Polaris provides vague percentage increases or declines, maybe calling out a model once in a while, but never giving investors any real insight into how Indian's various motorcycles are performing.
What we do know is that despite double- and even triple-digit sales growth early on, Indian Motorcycle sales are now quickly spiraling down. Even as Polaris obscures the actual numbers, a mid-teen-percentage decline in retail sales that far eclipses the contraction of the broader motorcycle market suggests that this is becoming a big problem for the bike maker.
Worse, the downdraft is accelerating. In the second quarter, Polaris said Indian retail sales were down by almost 10%, while in the first quarter they were almost 10%, while in the first quarter they were down by high single-digit rates. In last year's fourth quarter they were down by low double-digit amounts, which was a big drop since they had been positive the quarter before.
That doesn't bode well for when Polaris reports results the next time around. Even though the bar has been lowered considerably on sales, there's no reason to think it will be able to rebound -- precisely because Indian is still making the same kinds of heavy, big-bore bikes as Harley.
It just released its newest touring motorcycle, the 2020 Challenger, that houses its bigger, more muscular liquid-cooled PowerPlus engine that evokes images of Harley's Road Glide.
\m/ good shit mate
What a GEEK!
Yes.
Polaris’s Indian team is building a bike better than a Harley hands down!
ua-cam.com/video/RwWD-b9qr58/v-deo.html ..here is a video you should watch... it kills me guys say this with no facts trust me Polaris are no where near as good as Harley
Let me guess when you got back with the demo ride and you did that take turn you probably engage the clutch too much if you keep constant power to the wheel the bike would not have gone down. A mistake a lot of people make I can do some pretty tight hairpin turns with my Chieftain the key is not pulling the clutch too far you need constant power to the rear wheel. Your tires are like gyroscopes as long as power is to them the bike will not fall down. I take delivery on my Challenger in a week or two as soon as it gets delivered. 😎
Niiiiiiiice
@@cedriclashar8905 I picked up my new Challenger a week ago and I'm the first person in Maine to have one. Walked in put the cash on the table and I loaded it into my cargo trailer. I even watched them uncrate the bike. I was there when they delivered it as the truck was backing in watch the whole process. My dealership contacted me and let me know that the truck just pulled in. I only live 4 miles away from the dealership. 😁
Road Glide = Good
Challenger = Excellent
Check out Ride Like a Pro. Go practice.
Demo it and you’ll want one!
Should call and white chocolate
Quick disconnect back rest..How many of those are going to get ripped off..
Who steals a backrest???
@@InvictvsNox Leave it sitting in a parking lot and you will find out the hard way...
I don't think I've heard of anyone getting a backrest removed...quick releases aren't new
You can lock em down if you want... same tech on the other Indian backrests. I've over 75,000 miles on my '16 Vintage and been to all sorts of shady places over the years and never had anything happen to my backrest, helmet or saddlebag contents for that matter (all unlocked). I don't know anyone that's ever had their bike stuff ripped off... heard of it happening but I personally don't know anyone that it's happened to... and I live in SoCal. I guess it could happen but I personally don't worry about it. I wouldn't leave my phone in my RAM mount unattended for very long however... it's small and easily detached and pocketed. So I guess my level of trust only goes so far... but by all means lock em up if you feel the need!
@@stevecameron1366 Good enough for me, thanks for the wake up and Im glad to hear about the lack of ripping off issues...personally, I don't feel very comfortable leaving my Dragster RR out of eyesight for very long it's to light and easy to load into the back of a truck...I will move up into the touring bikes pretty soon...maybe a Kawasaki concours 1400.
Are you in Newport News Virginia?
I was!
Please more videos soon.
My friends got one he likes it but his comments are always "i don't think its as fast as my cross country was". It's a nice bike they did a good job and at least it woke up Harley. It doesn't stand a chance against a sport tourer though, so if you're used to power and sport like handling this is not going to keep up with you. Build quality is just beautiful too, makes me think for the future, but man i love my sport tourer wayyyy tooo much than a cruiser!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, this is more of a muscle bike tourer hybrid than anything meant to do serious curves on a regular basis.
SOHC.
So, you getting one? 🥴
I think I'll make a vlog on this very subject soon.
Maybe it’s time for a trade in?
Tell that to my wallet 😵😵😵
does this guy even know how to ride a motorcycle
Not really, no.
…no, as we can see…
I wonder if they will make a back to basic version? I want a ELECTRA GLIDE STANDARD version of the Challenger. I know this motor is what we came here for.
Totally. I'm sure we'll see the PowerPlus in another frame soon enough. :)
I would like to see the Victory Hammer or Judge version of this, honestly.
@@CDLNEPA Game on bro....
Now, if they could just give us a motorcycle tire that would go 50-60,000 miles.
C L I C K B A I T - Misleading Title
Shouldn’t have started in sport mode lol.
I regret nothing.
Yet another video of someone doing a review of the Indian Challenger? Im convinced there are 5000 of these reviews on UA-cam already. Just another "test rider" who walked out the door without purchasing the bike, this must be the thing to do nowadays I guess. I learned a lesson from wife who told me..."Why put yourself thru the torture of test riding something if you don't plan on purchasing it?" I must confess she's right, I have no desire to purchase ANOTHER motorcycle. Thanks for sharing your tire kicking experience with the rest of the Indian Challenger reviewer's.
Trading the Scout for a Challenger??????????
Hah, who knows.
I have been reading all the hype on the power of the Challenger. Well, it must be a V-twin thing. With the 103 rwhp and the 850 pounds it weighs, this certainly cannot be anything that sets the world on fire.
Everything is relative.
How much?$
Thanks
about 20k. You can venmo me.
@@InvictvsNox im sorry, what is venmo? Kinda new to this stuff.
@@joelabriola6289 a joke lol
@@InvictvsNox I don't get it oh well?'have a good night. Would you pick the Indian over the Road glide?
I liked it until you almost dropped it.it happens
that's the majority of the video, so I'll take it!
It’s a nice bike but I wouldn’t say 104whp at 850lbs is a “sleeper”
When you consider the other bikes in this class, I would.
Are you for real ?? Act like you have been around the block before.
You kids and your "sport" mode. All it does is take out the modularity of the throttle to make power come on at smaller inputs. Most of them don't make any additional power, it just makes the silly thing harder to control. You can do the same thing in Standard mode by just tugging on the throttle a little harder.
ok boomer
This bike has a 6 axis imu which works in conjunction with the ride modes and traction control.
@@cuzimaluzer777 More unnecessary nonsense. The bike is neither that fast nor leans far enough to be concerned with such things.
Take a class and learn to ride and you won't need computers to protect you. If anything, I find them a hinderance. Wish there was a switch I could easily turn all this crap off. Better yet, make it an option that I'm not required to spend money on.
@@saddle8bag ok boomer.
@@saddle8bag have you ridden one yet?
Horrific rider control ,what is with the piss poor clutch control ?
IT'S NOT A JET MAN!!
True, it's a MAN JET
Your shifting leaves a lot to desire…. Keep improving. Otherwise enthusiastic review.
Yeah, it's fun trying to figure out new transmissions haha
Awesome! Let any doofus ride the bike.
That's me
I'se a doofus too. 🥴
@@BrandonBicasso Maybe. But you sure are are trying to get your name out there.
@@lm2487 No need.
haha go get em tiger!
The title of your video is... extremely inaccurate. How much sense does it make to call this bike a "sleeper" when it is already well known it puts out 122hp/128 tq? It's not like it's hidden knowledge, that makes no sense at all. Thanks for the video but come on, a sleeper?
So every person on the road just _knows_ it's a fast bike when it looks like an old Harley?
terrible review. please go over specs first. now i must say this is compared to the other more professional reviews
Thanks for the feedback.
With these, I typically prefer to approach a bike completely blind to all the numbers, hype, and marketing because I want to convey how a first ride impression will be to the people interested in watching.
Some people such as yourself may wish to know more and I'd like to incorporate that somehow without ruining the experience mentioned above.
I figure I'd keep fewer minutes on the clock for the sake of people who will google that info anyway.