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Yeah the worldgov sending out people to search for the golden city while claiming noland was lying to get rid of the truth the poneglyph and those that know history... is something i told a few people a while ago discussing different one piece theories...
i think imu has the moon god fruit with the power to rewrite reality specialising in space. a fruit with a ink body. if you google ink ink fruit it will look like no lands hair.
Noland came too soon, but unlike Roger. He never knew that. For all he knew it was his time, his world, his story. He was the protagonist of his own story. He never knew the antagonist. He died not knowing a thing. That is unbelievably sad. It's also an idea Oda uses elsewhere. What comes to mind now is Rebecca's mother dying not knowing Kyros existed. Ignorance is a sad existence.
It's such a weird mind set of the Ds. Yeah its cool 800 years later we are gonna get you back so all is good I'll smile. It's cool that slaves are gonna suffer for the next 30 generations and live and die a miserable life. Nikas gonna come in 8 centuries so all is good
Noland had it all, all the skills to brave the sea by himself, and the charisma to make as many allies as he wanted. He had much more than Luffy or Roger ever will. Except for one thing: freedom. In the end, Noland worked under the king, and that literally killed him. If he was on his own, he would eventually find his way up a knock up stream instead of being executed.
The way i interpret the Joyboy prophecy is that there isn't a chosen one, but a chosen many born every generation. Noland, Caligara, Roger, Ace, Luffy and Usopp are all potential Joyboys. The reason Luffy is able to bring the Dawn is because he was lucky enough to have everything happen all at once. Maybe there were other Joyboys that made it to Laughtale like Rogee but had no way get the message out like Roger or there wasnt a Posideon born at the time. To me, Noland is like Ace in that he was talen out before he could reach his true potential.
Luffy is that chosen one. he is joyboys reincarnation/will. The average guy you want to see who worked his ass to laugh tale was roger, not luffy. Fate is a major factor in one piece.
Pard Luffy is the chosen one by his own choices. He chose to eat the fruit, and while he inherited Roger's will but not from being exposed to Roger and his ilk but by his own life experiences before he met Shanks. There is fate, and I'm not doubting that, but Luffy could have chosen not to follow the Joyboy path, as Oda has shown there are bad ends. Luffy became Joyboy by his own choices that allowed him to acquire more Joyboy qualities so he can bring the Dawn and fulfill the prophecy.
@@NicSantiagoG Nobody else could have eaten that fruit though. The story makes it clear that the Nika fruit avoids people. It hadn't been eaten in over 800 years, making it clear that even before Shanks took it nobody was able to actually consume it for whatever reason. Also I agreed with the point of people inheriting that Will such as Roger, but stating Usopp is joyboy is the dumbest thing I've heard. I think Roger was definitely an inheritor just born in the wrong time. Ace, however, was not and Usopp definitely isn't. Remember, Joyboy/Nika is essentially freedom incarnate, a man of freedom would not be a subordinate. Roger wasn't, Joyboy 99.99% was leader and Luffy is Captain. Even when Ace told Luffy to join him he refused. Ace and Usopp became subordinates, which disqualifies them immediately from being the personification of freedom. Luffy didn't "become" Joyboy, he simply was by his nature. Hence Toki saying that the dawn would come in 20 years because he would be born. Also Shirahoshi was no doubt born at the same time as Luffy for a reason, as the oracle predicted his coming along with hers. He's essentially the chosen one, regardless of the path he chose in life he would do whatever he wanted specifically which is the essence of being Joyboy. I think the will passed through generations, and Roger carried it to pave the way for Luffy's path but Luffy was ultimately the true reincarnation of Nika. Usopp is a coward, even if he becomes a brave warrior in the end he is too cowardly to ever be a Joyboy candidate in the slightest. Example being how he was tempted to deny Luffy being Pirate King when he was being threatened by the dino girl in Wano. No matter how close he is to death, Luffy would never deny such a thing and would smile in the face of death.
I still don't know how people can call Skypiea "skippable" or "boring". It's one of the most important arcs that set the stage for how the lore, and how the Straw Hats will leave their mark on this world going forward. Seriously an amazing arc that grows more and more important with time. Also, funnily enough, I feel that the Long Ring Long Land will be extremely important down the line. Maybe not the events that happened at that time, but everything it set up and showed us.
The entirity of the Skypeia arc was terrible to near-unwatchable. It served only two purposes: Cementing the characters of the Straw Hat crew in the mind of the viewer, and to give us that SICK NOLAN LORE. And that lore couldn't salvage it.
@@CaptainDCap How can someome have this take? The arc isn't perfect, but it was really enjoyable to me. The fights were really fun. I was super invested in the story of the sky island since Jaya.
lol during that day, the story isnt about being serious yet because these arc was release before water 7 and world govt corruption. These arc is funny, entertaining and adventure. these is what onepiece was about.
I cant even imagine... Noland was like a friend but its like he decided its a good idea to take 10 full grown lions otw to your house and expect to have fun, play video games and eat snacks.
OMG Noland and Calgara's backstory is amazing, I'm so happy that you made a video about the Skypiea arc. I still cry when I see their tragic end and then how Robin tells Wyper about Noland's descendant. Bro I hope we get Wyper back in the story for the final war.
Half of this video is me gushing about their flashback 🤣 it’s my favorite in one piece, FOR SURE. I actually had a solid 5 minutes if wyper analysis but I had to cut it out because of time constraints but let me just say this: Luffy and Wyper are like the modern Noland and Calgara (usopp too but let’s leave him out for now lol). Wyper is the Shandian who will be a leader when the dawn comes. There is no way Oda leaves him out. I bet we will see him crash down from the sky during the final war
@@DaksSake I hope so, but I do wonder how are the Shandians gonna be involved in this war and why would they do it, because they are up there in the sky without the World Government ever threatening them
Neve considered, but having this take of Usopp being an actual Noland's descendant is quite amazing! Now I thought there's some weird explanation that Noland's descendant were split into those who did believe Noland was a liar came to have unique features, unlike those who didn't: While the ones who thought he was lying came to develop a long nose associated with liars, much like a sort of "mark of sin", while those who thought Noland was truthful kept the "chestnut". Very interesting indeed.
Damn, when I was considering getting into this series for the first time, I had so many people tell me to skip Skypeia. But I decided to watch all of it anyway. Now that I have, I cannot see why people say to skip it, it is one of the most interesting arcs lore wise in the entire series.
Skypeia keeps on giving long after its time. What I've really been wondering about though is why Imu specifically hates Blackbeard on the same level she hates Luffy, Vivi and Shirayoshi. We know why she hates the other 3, but we have no clue yet as to why Blackbeard was among the posters and why his was defiled and cut up like Luffy's. Luffy is Joyboy, Shirayoshi is Poseidon, Vivi is the descendant of the D who spread the ponyglyphs around the world. Blackbeard though? What ties him back to the Void century like the other 3? Is it just because of Rocks? Then the question is what ties Rocks back to the Void century? Blackbeard was singled out by Imu to be among these figures that all tie back to the Void century in some way but we haven't got a clue what exactly it is that puts him there.
Do you think one part of why he didn’t smile was because he saw that he almost lead the government to the island? After getting betrayed, he could’ve reflected on how bad the gov was.
Yes for sure, he may have began realizing his government was F’ed up for A) not letting him take his crew and then B) using a fake crew member to lie to everyone
@@DaksSake It would've been so cool if he'd still laughed in relief and irony of the realization that he almost betrayed the shandians by sending his kingdom there.
noland is the definition of PK, finding the OP is nice but bro literally was everywhere like it is his own house. feels like his story wasn't shared with us 100%. can not wait for his story be relevant again.
The skypeians didn't know where the bell was when Roger was visiting, and they still didn't know where it was after Roger found it when Luffy visted. If Roger was friends with the skypeians, then the bell's location being a mystery would be a plot hole. Its more likely that Roger arrived and saw the conflict between the Shandians and the sky people and snuck past to find the tressure himself before getting out of there before anyone noticed.
Nerona also sounds a lot like Verona, the city where Rome and Juliet took place. Looking at the official translation imu says “ I desire” could oda be cooking a twisted version of the Shakespeare classic? In the original one they both die but in the OP twist one gets to live forever.. the crazy thing would be if lili had law fruit and she was the one giving the surgery.. also would make sense for her to have a powerful DF that could have helped moving the poneglyps
@@jayronbamba1482 I did copy this comment form a comment I made, I have this theory I just want a major UA-cam to pick it up, I’ve commented this in few videos
I see it as almost a phenomenon how you can come to the opposite conclusion as Parvision with the government not being the ones who sabotaged Noland, but you actually came to roughly the same conclusion as hidden in his devil fruits theory about music connection to the soul. Par’s always talking about the likelihood that and idea is true being higher when two people come to the same conclusion through different lenses but it’s actually the opposite in this case where you used the same evidence or “lens” to come to opposing conclusions. In that case does it strengthen the lens/evidence being used. I guess that means we are looking in the right places and Hidden was onto something when he said we should look in the pre-timeskip for answers as Oda had originally planned for the series to last 5 years before it expanded making arcs like Skypeia and Alabasta infinitely more important for the answers yet to come. Awesome video Dak, Nolan D. GOAT!
It's so crazy because I watched Par's video and was 100% sold on what he said, and then I kept thinking about it, we got a few chapters about the void century and stuff (especially the giant) and then it hit me like... the government isnt the only one pulling strings Love how you married all 3 of our ideas though, its true that when you keep hovering around the same points/ideas, there has to be something important going on, even if our conclusions are different. The most important conclusion tho, like you said, is NOLAN D GOAT!
I think this was a really cool analysis of Noland and the Jaya flashback. Love videos like this digging into meaning behind Oda's writing like you did here.
i was a bit pissed off about Noland being this preposterous about "god beliefs" . i can't thank you enough to show me how more subtle it is with both sides having rights and wrongs .after seeing this video One Piece feels better than ever . thank you , you've done a terrific job .
Tinfoil hat idea, but it is awfully suspicious that this random isolationist island in the grand line got hit with an infectious disease that Noland was familiar with. With how strong Kalgara was, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the WG to choose to wipe the island with a plague, instead of an invasion. I mean Noland didn't act as if the disease was rare, so collecting samples of diseased trees to use in this operation would be easy. And there are plenty of real-world parallels to the idea of using plagues to wipe out native peoples.
tree desease are most likely based on malaria which are prevalent to such isolated like that. noland know about the desease because his home country have the same desease as the island
@@raisofahri5797 Yeah but the one piece world is all islands, how did that disease reach Jaya? It's not endemic to the island, they acted as if they'd never seen it before.
The golden bell being above a ponyglyph is probably a big deal. I believe that the "spirits of the ancestors" the Shandians are ringing the bell for are those that inherited the metaphorical spirit of the Will of D. If the ancient Shandians agreed to guard the ponglyph with their lives it's very likely that they were close to the D clan (and Lili) or even had a few members in their tribe. Calgara and Viper likely unknowingly are/were carries of the D.
There's one simple reason that Noland didn't die with a smile on his face the way the others you named did. That is a trait specifically belonging to the D tribe, of which Noland was not a part.
@@brendav4695 I've been theorizing for a while that Teach isn't a true D. I have a feeling he learned about the D Clan and their significance and added the D to his own name in order to puff up his sense of importance.
@@AnimeOtakuDrew why would black beard want to draw attention his self? His whole plan was to stay off the radar of the word government. If anyone actually knew what the D. means then I’m pretty sure they would definitely hide it. Imu also stated verbatim that the people who have the name D don’t even know what it means anymore. So even if he did know he wouldn’t advertise it. That defeats the purpose of laying low.
One Peice has introduced us to the idea of creatures souls going somewhere after their death. 1. Millennium Dragons (Grandpa Ryu) they were migratory dragons whose resting place was The warship island / the lost island once a while when water went down. 2. Yagara bulls of water 7 (Aobire / grandpa Blue fin) they have a legend of going to Tsui village after their death which is also somewhere underwater. I get it that these are filler episodes but I mean idea intro can be anywhere.
Noland and Kalgara really hit home for me on a personal level. I'm a firm believer in scientific progress, and as an atheist I can see how people who cling to their religion can slow, halt, or even regress progress for what I find to be foolish reasons. Seeing Noland and Kalgara respecting one another, and both learning from the other's cultures to progress *together* is so god damn inspiring, and eventually tragic as hell. Every time I read, or watch, or anything this backstory I tear up so hard, because it's themes are just so wonderfully executed by Oda, paired with the rest of the Saga's stakes and all. People may say Skypiea's boring on the first go, but I still love the arc for the thematic elements that are present, both in the moment and in hindsight.
Dude I didn't know Nolans backstory was in there and I skipped parts of the arc because I disliked it so much it made me wanna quit the series :( If I had known about that backstory, I probably would have read the whole thing
You know, Robin points out that when camping in the wild, fire and other lightsourses should be kept at minimum. But Luffy and the gang do the exact opposite, by having the biggest, loudest, flashiest campfire-party ever held. As if shouting to everyone "We are here!" Just like Shandians ringing the bell. To ignite the Flame of Shandra. To tell everyone, living or dead "We are here!".
Wow you unpacked sooo much in this video! The ancient records must be like the guidelines for the Ancient kingdom tech and that’s why Oden and Roger understood more about time because they too were aware of the timing of everything. Wow I even think IMU is related to Noland and the shandians
Thinking about Oden and Noland reminds me of Fisher Tiger. I'd even say he was a more tragic case. He witnessed the worst in Marie Jois, he freed everyone and in a dilemna with himself. It somehow reminds me of Nika as well. No wonder whoswho asked Jinbe about him. I think that racism towards fish men has begun accidentally. And it was Joy Boy who apologised. Its also interesting that Jaya was sent upwards and that maybe Fish Man Island was sent downwards. As if someone was behind it. Lets say the king actually found Jaya, he would have declared war and killed everyone. A poneglyph would have been in the hands of the world government. The worst possible out come. Imagine the guit noland must have felt if that had happen. I mean look. The road poneglyph is safe under water. Just as the road poneglyph in wano was or zou. Places isolated from the world. Even before shandora got shot up to the sky it was an isolated place, yet it attracted people towards it location the sea kings were heard by roger and oden, road poneglyph there zounisha was heard by luffy and momo, road poneglyph there the bell was heard, poneglyph there I wonder where big mom got hers
I think the whole 5 year thing with Nolan might just take inspiration for how difficult it was to obtain sponsorship from royalty for voyages in real life. Christopher Columbus in particular tried to get funding from several countries and was turned down by England, France and Portugal before Spain finally gave him the money to do it. That's just my guess, Oda likes to throw real-world references into these things.
@@coolissa1 always found the middle section forgettable and boring. Oda never made me care about the citizens of Skypiea. Enel was never fleshed out and we don't have any reasons for his motivations or actions. A lot of the arc honestly felt like filler and it has some of the worst fights in fiction. A sky Island was such a great concept, but the execution fell flat.
I have watched skypea arc over 13 years ago, at that time I didn't think that Noland story could be so deep. Thanks to your insight it hit me harder than ever before and I'm considering rewatching and rereading One Piece as I slowly am starting to understand that previous arcs become even better over time thanks to Oda's godly writing and foreshadowing as we know more about One Piece. Cheers to you mate and Gigachad-land I hope he got his closure thanks to Luffy as you mentioned it in the vid.
I thought of, and watched that Parvision video, about the possibility of outside interference but I do prefer your take. At this point, Oda can do anything, with how advanced they were, but I come to the same goofy conclusion when I think about them; that somehow the Ancient Kingdom studied or mastered 'fate'. Maybe the relocation of the island was activated the moment Noland set foot on it, because it was too early for anyone to have landed there. So, with an almost Luck-Luck type power or the best available method, 'fate' used the Knock Up Stream to get it out of there before Imu discovered what year Poseidon would reincarnate and quickly reorganized the equation so Luffy would still get there someday.
Great video Daks. I love videos that show me something I haven’t thought of before or make connections that I haven’t already made. I hadn’t thought about how recent events could recontextualize the knock up stream event.
Skypiea has always been underrated for some reason, but it's always been one of my favorites from the scenery, to the unique fights, and Enel just overall being a great villain. How people could be that divided over an arc about a sky island and basically El Dorado is beyond me.
I believe joyboy was originally meant to reincarnate into noland but was unable to for whatever reason and thus waited another 400 years and if you think about it there would’ve been another Poseidon in the ryugu kingdom during his time as well
Joyboy dont reincarnate. His spirit is not literaly inside Luffy now. What happens is that some people inherit the will of someone that have died. In this case, Luffy is the closest to Joy Boy since Roger died, not only that, but Luffy has the Nika fruit that Roger did not have, so this is why Luffy is "JoyBoy", not because he have his literal spirit, but because just like Joyboy, Luffy will bring freedom to the slaves, but while Joyboy failed, Luffy will suceed. Noland, as cool as he was, was not a pirate, but a sailor who played by the rules of the goverment. So he could not fully inherit the will of Joyboy. This has nothing to do with literal reincarnation.
Gaia has one of my favorite moments in the entire story Everyone gives it credit now for obvious reasons, but the ship falling from the Sky is still conceptually peak One Piece. When I first saw that I got excited as all hell. I still remember my younger self saying "wait, we're actually doing this?!" Then we went into a couple existential stories that deal with the effects of different perspectives and some commentary on religion which is my favorite way to frame a story. Well done love all of your work!
Thank God i FINALLY found, after a decade being a one piece fan, someone that see Noland as the luffy/Roger/JoyBoy from 400 years ago. He is so underrated almost invisible in people's mind
perhaps Nolans science over faith and evolution of humanity aproach shows how the world government began, people who wanted to abandon the gods, who to them only held them back, to advance humanity... but in the process, became cruel and controlling. Maybe at some point, they did believe in the vacant throne, but after some event, they decided that Imu should become the "new god"
Ironic that in our real world, explorers in the beginning era of explorations become pirates or were hired to be pirates by the ruling king to rob other countries of gold. Makes me wonder if Noland have live long enough to become a pirate as well instead the liar he's known to the current time.
Yoi! This video is amazing Dak’s, noland the greatest adventurer within the story of one piece. I wonder if these islands that have to do with adventuring will reveal more to us about noland. Like how Roger left his mark on a ponegliph with the help of oden, perhaps there will be something of noland’s left, like his true story for the people to know that he wasn’t a liar.
Roger likely didnt need the shandians trust or even permission to see the bell or inscribe the message on the belfry. If you remember, the belfry was lost on top of giant jack until luffy got there. none of the shandians knew it was there. roger probably found it and told no one. there was likely no one up there on top of giant jack other than roger and his crew.
Yo thank you for the super thanks bro!! Yes I think the missing eye is important. My favorite idea is that Davy (whale) came and just took a chomp out of Jaya so he kept Laugh Tale within him (and thats what the eye was). I still think onigashima is joyboy's skull I think bells in the sky are definitely a purposeful thing from Oda - the Ox Bell is another one (although its not in the sky, but it was attached to an ancient ship.. maybe a flying ship idk). Idk what the bells mean but its awesome
Just imagine the Gorosei revealing they created the knockup stream to "send those aliens back" or smth like that. It would be such a huge showcase of their power and influence. Not only destroyed it a potential Joyboy before he could knew a single thing, it also isolated an advanced tribe from space to not mess with their ruling.
Since the ancient kingdom was super futuristic and made the porneglyphs, these stones could be something different than we always thought. Instead of being just solid and unbreakable, there could be something like tech inside. Timecapsule. Even possible that somethings happens if you collect the stones and put them together.
And it's interesting you say that as Robin was mentioned to Cobra about the Real Poneglyph which us when you connect all of them together to discover the lost history. And in that scene, all the Poneglyphs pop up behind Robin when she is saying that and there is like a line connecting them all together so you could be right. Also, Porneglyph? Lmao!
Even if the rest of Jaya wasn't launched by Knock Up Stream, Noland's blunder would've been beyond catastrophic. The Shandians would've been wiped out, and Shandora the City of Gold would've been destroyed and I think Noland would've turned pirate from it all. So I guess in a way, that Jaya end up in the sky is very much a blessing. Although I would be surprised if the knock up stream was a world government creation.
I like the story of both Nolan and Calgara, but I could never bring myself to watch the ending after seeing it only a few times, just like I just can't bring myself to see the tragic backstory of Nami, Sanji, and especially Robin, I could bring myself to watch Brook and Chopper's tragic backstory even though Choppers always brings me to tears, I just wish I knew that background music they play during Hurluk's final moment, let me know if you guys know.
Brook has the most twisted back story imo, watching your crew die, dying with them then coming back to spend (i forgot I think its like) 40 years on the same ship unable to leave
@@RedxLilxSleepy 50 years actually, the reason I can stand watching that part is because at least his crew went out on a high note, singing Bink's brew to Laboon to the very end, to me it lessen the impact.
@@gamigngrampa4380 thanks for the info but I guess it's not attached to the music on looking for I guess I should say I'm meant the music that played between choppers realization and his death, I always assumed the two were one music.
I've read somewhere that that Huge Knockup Stream was probably the result of the making of Enies Lobby, one sucks water, one sprout them out, probably connected by an underground channel as in the illustration
I think Noland might be very inspired by Fernão Mendes Pinto, a Portuguese explorer. Who traveled the world in the 1500s and when came back to Portugal was called a liar. There is even a a joke created with his name "Fernão Mentes? Minto!" wich means "Fernão, do you lie? I lie!" Nowadays we know that the stories he told, about the lands, people, creatures he saw, and traditions were actually true, some of the things are describes in a strange way, but if you think a bit you might find out what it actually is.
Just started listening. Noland’s is one of my favorite backstories. I’ll never understand those who disregard Skypeia as a whole. It always felt like it was one of the most important parts to early OP along with Alabasta.
Absolutely fantastic video KING, we appreciate the hard work 😤 also that was a clever ad plug lol 😭 also also thanks for always saying wassup when we cross paths in stream 🤓💯
interesting you mentioned the dates, In case you don't know already, One Piece is set in 1522, the same year Ferdinand Magellan completed the world's first circumnavigation. Interesting detail but Magellan died before finishing the journey, foreshadowing?
my only gripe with that story is the fact that noland went back and told everyone about the gold knowing the king and his men would immediately go back and try taking everything if the island was there i feel they wouldve crossed a line somewhere and went as far as killing the islanders probably starting a war with nolands friends to the point where he'd have to choose a side
Bro all your videos HIT‼️ In my opinion One Piece doesn’t truly feeling like One Piece until you get to Skypeia!! The whole setup from Jiya to the end was BEYOND PEAK!! We got soooooooo much introduced it’s crazy and it’s truly a arc of info dumps for the future of OP😂😂 I have a new appreciation for Noland and his FEATS MY GOD‼️
after mentioning the garp looking character are we not gonna talk about the boy who got cured being luffy with longer hair? And calagra has similar markings to dragon and dragon would give up everything to stop the government including his own son.
8:01 that ships symbol being destroyed by Kalgara resembels the world goverment cross too much ... . Kalgara was my favorite charaxter with Wiper "for our ancestors", rainny day.
these days , people have theories about the world beeing under water. thats why castles were all build on the highest spot. cause royal families knew it could happen. I just realized Nolands name could be a forshadowing of that. No- Land
I had one question in mind for years now, if Noland didn't know about any treasure/one piece or Void century at this time. then who was the man or entity that told Roger about a treasure/one piece? As we know Roger was the man who made the information about the treasured public but who was the man Roger took inspiration from... yes there are Poneglyphs but Roger was not able to read them until he met Oden!!. but he already knew that Poneglyphs will show him the way to one piece do you know something about this?? by the way, love your video/theories😁😍
When Roger met Rayleigh, he already knew the meaning of D. This is why he mentions turning the world upside down. If he knew the meaning of D, then he knew about Imu and other things. How would he know? Probably, knowledge kept hidden and passed down through his family line. It was probably the injustice done to the D clan that inspired him to find and reveal the truth, that the D's aren't demons but are on the side of god, and the "gods" are the true demons who were set in place by the devil, Imu. His family could've thought he was THE Joyboy, also. Finding the one piece must've revealed the greater story, and that he wasn't the one to drag the mighty gods, the celestial dragons and their father/mother the devil, from their thrones and raise the D's name back up to its former glory as lights in the world.
wasnt it implied that the voice of all things hinted to him that whatever was on the poneglyphs was important? maybe on lodestar there was something with the voice that directly told him
5:00 You're a bit mistaken here. Regarding the bell, nobody knew where it was - neither the Shandians nor the Skypeans. Roger befriended the old Kami for sure, probably made friends among the Skypeans as well, not sure about the Shandeans. But befriending the natives wouldn't have had much of an impact on his search for the bell since they didn't know where it was. And it didn't seem like Roger told the natives about its location afterwards, since even the old Kami was surprised by its reveal in the end, and Enel certainly didn't know where it was. The Shandeans also didn't know the location even though it was extremely important to them. It wasn't until Luffy arrived and rang it that everybody knew. Remember, it hadn't been rung a single time since the day Upper Yard arrived at Skypea. It seems to be heavily implied that Roger went on an adventure at Upper Yard with his crew, no oversight by the natives, found the bell when nobody else could because it had such a loud voice, read/inscribed the message, and then got out of dodge, kinda like Luffy did (minus the whole 'save the island' bit).
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Yeah the worldgov sending out people to search for the golden city while claiming noland was lying to get rid of the truth the poneglyph and those that know history...
is something i told a few people a while ago discussing different one piece theories...
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i think imu has the moon god fruit with the power to rewrite reality specialising in space. a fruit with a ink body. if you google ink ink fruit it will look like no lands hair.
You said Roger and Luffy but it was Roger and Odin
Noland came too soon, but unlike Roger. He never knew that. For all he knew it was his time, his world, his story. He was the protagonist of his own story. He never knew the antagonist. He died not knowing a thing. That is unbelievably sad. It's also an idea Oda uses elsewhere. What comes to mind now is Rebecca's mother dying not knowing Kyros existed. Ignorance is a sad existence.
Or how ace didn't know sabo was alive
@@HussainLooth-yg9cfyou had to bring that up didn't you? 😔
It's such a weird mind set of the Ds. Yeah its cool 800 years later we are gonna get you back so all is good I'll smile. It's cool that slaves are gonna suffer for the next 30 generations and live and die a miserable life. Nikas gonna come in 8 centuries so all is good
@@HussainLooth-yg9cfWhy do you have to remind me of that? 😢
@@HussainLooth-yg9cfoor ace could not perfect block that magma fist 😔
Noland had it all, all the skills to brave the sea by himself, and the charisma to make as many allies as he wanted. He had much more than Luffy or Roger ever will.
Except for one thing: freedom. In the end, Noland worked under the king, and that literally killed him. If he was on his own, he would eventually find his way up a knock up stream instead of being executed.
Agreed
that is beautiful and horrible
@@sleepyninjarin7971 yep, but being a pirate king is all about freedom, according to Luffy himself!
"he had much more than luffy or roger ever will" what lol? how? oda's pen killed noland
Better to die cupping your own balls for freedom than cupping someone else's balls as a slave.
The way i interpret the Joyboy prophecy is that there isn't a chosen one, but a chosen many born every generation. Noland, Caligara, Roger, Ace, Luffy and Usopp are all potential Joyboys. The reason Luffy is able to bring the Dawn is because he was lucky enough to have everything happen all at once. Maybe there were other Joyboys that made it to Laughtale like Rogee but had no way get the message out like Roger or there wasnt a Posideon born at the time. To me, Noland is like Ace in that he was talen out before he could reach his true potential.
Luffy is that chosen one. he is joyboys reincarnation/will. The average guy you want to see who worked his ass to laugh tale was roger, not luffy. Fate is a major factor in one piece.
Pard Luffy is the chosen one by his own choices. He chose to eat the fruit, and while he inherited Roger's will but not from being exposed to Roger and his ilk but by his own life experiences before he met Shanks. There is fate, and I'm not doubting that, but Luffy could have chosen not to follow the Joyboy path, as Oda has shown there are bad ends. Luffy became Joyboy by his own choices that allowed him to acquire more Joyboy qualities so he can bring the Dawn and fulfill the prophecy.
@@NicSantiagoG Nobody else could have eaten that fruit though. The story makes it clear that the Nika fruit avoids people. It hadn't been eaten in over 800 years, making it clear that even before Shanks took it nobody was able to actually consume it for whatever reason. Also I agreed with the point of people inheriting that Will such as Roger, but stating Usopp is joyboy is the dumbest thing I've heard. I think Roger was definitely an inheritor just born in the wrong time. Ace, however, was not and Usopp definitely isn't. Remember, Joyboy/Nika is essentially freedom incarnate, a man of freedom would not be a subordinate. Roger wasn't, Joyboy 99.99% was leader and Luffy is Captain. Even when Ace told Luffy to join him he refused. Ace and Usopp became subordinates, which disqualifies them immediately from being the personification of freedom. Luffy didn't "become" Joyboy, he simply was by his nature. Hence Toki saying that the dawn would come in 20 years because he would be born. Also Shirahoshi was no doubt born at the same time as Luffy for a reason, as the oracle predicted his coming along with hers. He's essentially the chosen one, regardless of the path he chose in life he would do whatever he wanted specifically which is the essence of being Joyboy. I think the will passed through generations, and Roger carried it to pave the way for Luffy's path but Luffy was ultimately the true reincarnation of Nika. Usopp is a coward, even if he becomes a brave warrior in the end he is too cowardly to ever be a Joyboy candidate in the slightest. Example being how he was tempted to deny Luffy being Pirate King when he was being threatened by the dino girl in Wano. No matter how close he is to death, Luffy would never deny such a thing and would smile in the face of death.
The fruit hadn't been awakened in 800 years. It was never stated that it hadn't been eaten; only that it had evaded the WG.
@@cjamesfortexactly, the other bro watched two piece
I still don't know how people can call Skypiea "skippable" or "boring". It's one of the most important arcs that set the stage for how the lore, and how the Straw Hats will leave their mark on this world going forward. Seriously an amazing arc that grows more and more important with time.
Also, funnily enough, I feel that the Long Ring Long Land will be extremely important down the line. Maybe not the events that happened at that time, but everything it set up and showed us.
On absolutely.
It's very likely at this point a previous user of luffy's DF made long ring long how it is after all! Everything there is stretched.
The entirity of the Skypeia arc was terrible to near-unwatchable. It served only two purposes: Cementing the characters of the Straw Hat crew in the mind of the viewer, and to give us that SICK NOLAN LORE. And that lore couldn't salvage it.
@@CaptainDCap How can someome have this take? The arc isn't perfect, but it was really enjoyable to me. The fights were really fun.
I was super invested in the story of the sky island since Jaya.
lol during that day, the story isnt about being serious yet because these arc was release before water 7 and world govt corruption. These arc is funny, entertaining and adventure. these is what onepiece was about.
@@CaptainDCap You trippin. Skypeia is excellent.
nothing in one piece pains me as much as Noland's story. It's such a tragedy
Hiriluk, corazon, a few that always come to mind
Yassui
U would like Sir Walter Raleigh
I cant even imagine... Noland was like a friend but its like he decided its a good idea to take 10 full grown lions otw to your house and expect to have fun, play video games and eat snacks.
pedro bro
OMG Noland and Calgara's backstory is amazing, I'm so happy that you made a video about the Skypiea arc. I still cry when I see their tragic end and then how Robin tells Wyper about Noland's descendant. Bro I hope we get Wyper back in the story for the final war.
Half of this video is me gushing about their flashback 🤣 it’s my favorite in one piece, FOR SURE. I actually had a solid 5 minutes if wyper analysis but I had to cut it out because of time constraints but let me just say this:
Luffy and Wyper are like the modern Noland and Calgara (usopp too but let’s leave him out for now lol). Wyper is the Shandian who will be a leader when the dawn comes. There is no way Oda leaves him out. I bet we will see him crash down from the sky during the final war
@@DaksSake I hope so, but I do wonder how are the Shandians gonna be involved in this war and why would they do it, because they are up there in the sky without the World Government ever threatening them
They will all definitely be there after seeing posters of Luffy's public execution.
I bought two perfumes solely because they're called "Montblanc Legend" and "Montblanc Explorer" 😂 Noland is my favorite character ever.
@@DaksSake Luffy, Vivi, Carrot, Wyper, Momo, Shirahoshi, and 3 more could be the Nine Shadows of Toki's prophecy that will bring the dawn.
Neve considered, but having this take of Usopp being an actual Noland's descendant is quite amazing! Now I thought there's some weird explanation that Noland's descendant were split into those who did believe Noland was a liar came to have unique features, unlike those who didn't: While the ones who thought he was lying came to develop a long nose associated with liars, much like a sort of "mark of sin", while those who thought Noland was truthful kept the "chestnut". Very interesting indeed.
That’s pretty good
Noland is the definition of going out sad😢
He represents Sad Boy
You mean Sa D Boy
SaD Boy
@@mustafaazmi7106you mean Sa D. Bo there is no Y.
@@AnonymousEnigma19 Sa D. Bo! -> Sa D. Boi -> Sa D. Boy
@@danielekberg1666 that's how you pronounce it, but again there is no Y when you spell it.
Damn, when I was considering getting into this series for the first time, I had so many people tell me to skip Skypeia. But I decided to watch all of it anyway. Now that I have, I cannot see why people say to skip it, it is one of the most interesting arcs lore wise in the entire series.
the lore is fire, even the creativity of the island dynamics is fireeee
Don't forget the fight with the rap god himself.
Skypeia is great lore wrapped in shit anime. I hated the entire arc and only watched it for Nolan lore.
Nolan has always been one of my characters from the past era. His and clgara’s story always gets me😢
Skypeia keeps on giving long after its time. What I've really been wondering about though is why Imu specifically hates Blackbeard on the same level she hates Luffy, Vivi and Shirayoshi. We know why she hates the other 3, but we have no clue yet as to why Blackbeard was among the posters and why his was defiled and cut up like Luffy's. Luffy is Joyboy, Shirayoshi is Poseidon, Vivi is the descendant of the D who spread the ponyglyphs around the world. Blackbeard though? What ties him back to the Void century like the other 3? Is it just because of Rocks? Then the question is what ties Rocks back to the Void century? Blackbeard was singled out by Imu to be among these figures that all tie back to the Void century in some way but we haven't got a clue what exactly it is that puts him there.
Possibly because the Dark Dark fruit made Blackbeard the living personification of Void ?
Dak casually dropping the “the ancient kingdom is manipulating fate in their favor far into the future” in the Noland video 😭
Do you think one part of why he didn’t smile was because he saw that he almost lead the government to the island? After getting betrayed, he could’ve reflected on how bad the gov was.
Yes for sure, he may have began realizing his government was F’ed up for A) not letting him take his crew and then B) using a fake crew member to lie to everyone
@@DaksSake It would've been so cool if he'd still laughed in relief and irony of the realization that he almost betrayed the shandians by sending his kingdom there.
You're delusional if you truly believe Noland couldnt defeat you in War Thunder...
noland is the definition of PK, finding the OP is nice but bro literally was everywhere like it is his own house.
feels like his story wasn't shared with us 100%.
can not wait for his story be relevant again.
The skypeians didn't know where the bell was when Roger was visiting, and they still didn't know where it was after Roger found it when Luffy visted. If Roger was friends with the skypeians, then the bell's location being a mystery would be a plot hole. Its more likely that Roger arrived and saw the conflict between the Shandians and the sky people and snuck past to find the tressure himself before getting out of there before anyone noticed.
Not such a good dude after all
I forget why people assumed he was tbh but i havent seen the flashback yet @@sammyttheg412
@@sammyttheg412 they're pirates dude
Nerona also sounds a lot like Verona, the city where Rome and Juliet took place. Looking at the official translation imu says “ I desire” could oda be cooking a twisted version of the Shakespeare classic? In the original one they both die but in the OP twist one gets to live forever.. the crazy thing would be if lili had law fruit and she was the one giving the surgery.. also would make sense for her to have a powerful DF that could have helped moving the poneglyps
I have read the very same comment somewhere else...😂
did you copy this comment
@@jayronbamba1482 I did copy this comment form a comment I made, I have this theory I just want a major UA-cam to pick it up, I’ve commented this in few videos
I see it as almost a phenomenon how you can come to the opposite conclusion as Parvision with the government not being the ones who sabotaged Noland, but you actually came to roughly the same conclusion as hidden in his devil fruits theory about music connection to the soul. Par’s always talking about the likelihood that and idea is true being higher when two people come to the same conclusion through different lenses but it’s actually the opposite in this case where you used the same evidence or “lens” to come to opposing conclusions. In that case does it strengthen the lens/evidence being used. I guess that means we are looking in the right places and Hidden was onto something when he said we should look in the pre-timeskip for answers as Oda had originally planned for the series to last 5 years before it expanded making arcs like Skypeia and Alabasta infinitely more important for the answers yet to come. Awesome video Dak, Nolan D. GOAT!
It's so crazy because I watched Par's video and was 100% sold on what he said, and then I kept thinking about it, we got a few chapters about the void century and stuff (especially the giant) and then it hit me like... the government isnt the only one pulling strings
Love how you married all 3 of our ideas though, its true that when you keep hovering around the same points/ideas, there has to be something important going on, even if our conclusions are different.
The most important conclusion tho, like you said, is NOLAN D GOAT!
Another god maybe the moon god the moon has 3 phases/faces in myths..
noland and oden are definitely my favorite characters. thanks for this video bro
TWO OF THE LITERAL GOATS! Thanks for watching fam!
I think this was a really cool analysis of Noland and the Jaya flashback. Love videos like this digging into meaning behind Oda's writing like you did here.
me too
I like Noland’s hair being the tip of Nika’s spear. He was literally the tip of the spear. Noland, then Roger, and finally Luffy
i was a bit pissed off about Noland being this preposterous about "god beliefs" . i can't thank you enough to show me how more subtle it is with both sides having rights and wrongs .after seeing this video One Piece feels better than ever . thank you , you've done a terrific job .
Nah he was righteously on the fence with it. He was right the entire time.
Tinfoil hat idea, but it is awfully suspicious that this random isolationist island in the grand line got hit with an infectious disease that Noland was familiar with. With how strong Kalgara was, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the WG to choose to wipe the island with a plague, instead of an invasion.
I mean Noland didn't act as if the disease was rare, so collecting samples of diseased trees to use in this operation would be easy. And there are plenty of real-world parallels to the idea of using plagues to wipe out native peoples.
tree desease are most likely based on malaria which are prevalent to such isolated like that. noland know about the desease because his home country have the same desease as the island
@@raisofahri5797 Yeah but the one piece world is all islands, how did that disease reach Jaya? It's not endemic to the island, they acted as if they'd never seen it before.
Only backstory I dropped a tear for
The golden bell being above a ponyglyph is probably a big deal. I believe that the "spirits of the ancestors" the Shandians are ringing the bell for are those that inherited the metaphorical spirit of the Will of D. If the ancient Shandians agreed to guard the ponglyph with their lives it's very likely that they were close to the D clan (and Lili) or even had a few members in their tribe. Calgara and Viper likely unknowingly are/were carries of the D.
There's one simple reason that Noland didn't die with a smile on his face the way the others you named did. That is a trait specifically belonging to the D tribe, of which Noland was not a part.
:D
But teach is a D and he was scared af when he tought whitebeard could kill him, ofcs we hace been told he is the exception
@@brendav4695 I've been theorizing for a while that Teach isn't a true D. I have a feeling he learned about the D Clan and their significance and added the D to his own name in order to puff up his sense of importance.
@@AnimeOtakuDrew why would black beard want to draw attention his self? His whole plan was to stay off the radar of the word government. If anyone actually knew what the D. means then I’m pretty sure they would definitely hide it. Imu also stated verbatim that the people who have the name D don’t even know what it means anymore. So even if he did know he wouldn’t advertise it. That defeats the purpose of laying low.
Noland wanted Gold
Roger wanted Freeland
One Peice has introduced us to the idea of creatures souls going somewhere after their death.
1. Millennium Dragons (Grandpa Ryu) they were migratory dragons whose resting place was The warship island / the lost island once a while when water went down.
2. Yagara bulls of water 7 (Aobire / grandpa Blue fin) they have a legend of going to Tsui village after their death which is also somewhere underwater.
I get it that these are filler episodes but I mean idea intro can be anywhere.
Noland and Kalgara really hit home for me on a personal level.
I'm a firm believer in scientific progress, and as an atheist I can see how people who cling to their religion can slow, halt, or even regress progress for what I find to be foolish reasons.
Seeing Noland and Kalgara respecting one another, and both learning from the other's cultures to progress *together* is so god damn inspiring, and eventually tragic as hell.
Every time I read, or watch, or anything this backstory I tear up so hard, because it's themes are just so wonderfully executed by Oda, paired with the rest of the Saga's stakes and all.
People may say Skypiea's boring on the first go, but I still love the arc for the thematic elements that are present, both in the moment and in hindsight.
Love the Usopp and Noland parallels. I'd forgotten so much of this! Great vid Dak!
These videos are golden bro
Those who skip Skypiea arc are worse than scum. It has such stunning writing.
Talk yo shit kakashi
stunning?
Facts
Dude I didn't know Nolans backstory was in there and I skipped parts of the arc because I disliked it so much it made me wanna quit the series :( If I had known about that backstory, I probably would have read the whole thing
The Skypeia arc was shit filler trash I only sat through so I wouldn't miss any Nolan lore.
You know, Robin points out that when camping in the wild, fire and other lightsourses should be kept at minimum. But Luffy and the gang do the exact opposite, by having the biggest, loudest, flashiest campfire-party ever held. As if shouting to everyone
"We are here!"
Just like Shandians ringing the bell. To ignite the Flame of Shandra. To tell everyone, living or dead "We are here!".
Wow you unpacked sooo much in this video! The ancient records must be like the guidelines for the Ancient kingdom tech and that’s why Oden and Roger understood more about time because they too were aware of the timing of everything. Wow I even think IMU is related to Noland and the shandians
Thinking about Oden and Noland reminds me of Fisher Tiger. I'd even say he was a more tragic case. He witnessed the worst in Marie Jois, he freed everyone and in a dilemna with himself. It somehow reminds me of Nika as well. No wonder whoswho asked Jinbe about him. I think that racism towards fish men has begun accidentally. And it was Joy Boy who apologised.
Its also interesting that Jaya was sent upwards and that maybe Fish Man Island was sent downwards. As if someone was behind it.
Lets say the king actually found Jaya, he would have declared war and killed everyone. A poneglyph would have been in the hands of the world government. The worst possible out come. Imagine the guit noland must have felt if that had happen.
I mean look. The road poneglyph is safe under water. Just as the road poneglyph in wano was or zou. Places isolated from the world. Even before shandora got shot up to the sky it was an isolated place, yet it attracted people towards it location
the sea kings were heard by roger and oden, road poneglyph there
zounisha was heard by luffy and momo, road poneglyph there
the bell was heard, poneglyph there
I wonder where big mom got hers
@@214skrilla6 maybe your mom.
I think the whole 5 year thing with Nolan might just take inspiration for how difficult it was to obtain sponsorship from royalty for voyages in real life. Christopher Columbus in particular tried to get funding from several countries and was turned down by England, France and Portugal before Spain finally gave him the money to do it. That's just my guess, Oda likes to throw real-world references into these things.
Great video! I might not be a fan of the Skypiea arc, but Noland was still a great character
-Preach
I am a big fan of you man
@@zoro_lost69 Love to see it! Thank you
why dont u like skypiea
@@coolissa1 always found the middle section forgettable and boring. Oda never made me care about the citizens of Skypiea. Enel was never fleshed out and we don't have any reasons for his motivations or actions. A lot of the arc honestly felt like filler and it has some of the worst fights in fiction. A sky Island was such a great concept, but the execution fell flat.
Also I don't like how Luffy was stuck in a snake for so long and the entire crew was split up for most of the arc
I have watched skypea arc over 13 years ago, at that time I didn't think that Noland story could be so deep. Thanks to your insight it hit me harder than ever before and I'm considering rewatching and rereading One Piece as I slowly am starting to understand that previous arcs become even better over time thanks to Oda's godly writing and foreshadowing as we know more about One Piece. Cheers to you mate and Gigachad-land I hope he got his closure thanks to Luffy as you mentioned it in the vid.
Man love we’re looking at Nolan more, he’s gotta have a huge part to play in the grand story, surely
I thought of, and watched that Parvision video, about the possibility of outside interference but I do prefer your take. At this point, Oda can do anything, with how advanced they were, but I come to the same goofy conclusion when I think about them; that somehow the Ancient Kingdom studied or mastered 'fate'. Maybe the relocation of the island was activated the moment Noland set foot on it, because it was too early for anyone to have landed there. So, with an almost Luck-Luck type power or the best available method, 'fate' used the Knock Up Stream to get it out of there before Imu discovered what year Poseidon would reincarnate and quickly reorganized the equation so Luffy would still get there someday.
Great video Daks. I love videos that show me something I haven’t thought of before or make connections that I haven’t already made. I hadn’t thought about how recent events could recontextualize the knock up stream event.
Skypiea has always been underrated for some reason, but it's always been one of my favorites from the scenery, to the unique fights, and Enel just overall being a great villain. How people could be that divided over an arc about a sky island and basically El Dorado is beyond me.
Buggy has the potential to become Gildarts from Fairy Tail. Dividing people in mini versions of themselves, dividing elements and objects
42:30 "And I've been plotting this video for a minute now" wat
4:15 Shoujou, masira and cricket also heard the bell from all the way at jaya
I believe joyboy was originally meant to reincarnate into noland but was unable to for whatever reason and thus waited another 400 years and if you think about it there would’ve been another Poseidon in the ryugu kingdom during his time as well
Joyboy dont reincarnate. His spirit is not literaly inside Luffy now. What happens is that some people inherit the will of someone that have died. In this case, Luffy is the closest to Joy Boy since Roger died, not only that, but Luffy has the Nika fruit that Roger did not have, so this is why Luffy is "JoyBoy", not because he have his literal spirit, but because just like Joyboy, Luffy will bring freedom to the slaves, but while Joyboy failed, Luffy will suceed. Noland, as cool as he was, was not a pirate, but a sailor who played by the rules of the goverment. So he could not fully inherit the will of Joyboy. This has nothing to do with literal reincarnation.
@@sonofcronos7831 you clearly know nothing about reincarnation and like a quarter of what you said is confirmed so calm tf down
@@sonofcronos7831 ua-cam.com/users/shortsYP9STsg5mrs?feature=share
This has been an amazing journey, thank you
Been waiting for your Nolan video to drop!
Noland would have made an unintended blunder. he didn’t know about the WG, he was only an explorer
Of course he knew it, the real blunder was to trust it.
The wg is hardly a secret
@@sammyttheg412 I’m talking about the poneglyphs, the void century etc. he didn’t know the world government are bad he just wanted to explore
Gaia has one of my favorite moments in the entire story
Everyone gives it credit now for obvious reasons, but the ship falling from the Sky is still conceptually peak One Piece.
When I first saw that I got excited as all hell.
I still remember my younger self saying "wait, we're actually doing this?!"
Then we went into a couple existential stories that deal with the effects of different perspectives and some commentary on religion which is my favorite way to frame a story.
Well done love all of your work!
Everyone be like "Give Oda a break", I'm like give Daks a break. Quality Content Machine.
(⌐■_■) THANK YOU ! Vegapunk video coming on Saturday too :D
Whats the music used throughout the intro?
A lofi remix of Memories!
Bruh I never realized his name was “No land”
Love this video man! Keep it up 👍🏽
Thank you!! Plenty more to come :D
The Noland Video is finally Here!
Only took 6 months!
Thank God i FINALLY found, after a decade being a one piece fan, someone that see Noland as the luffy/Roger/JoyBoy from 400 years ago. He is so underrated almost invisible in people's mind
The Bell also had Gol D Rogers mustache. Never noticed all these details before :D great vid!
6:23 oh hell nah, Noland would easily solo you 💀
“Roger had to be friends with the skypians” i mean, gonfall literally said he had a pirate friend from the blue sea twenty years ago
perhaps Nolans science over faith and evolution of humanity aproach shows how the world government began, people who wanted to abandon the gods, who to them only held them back, to advance humanity... but in the process, became cruel and controlling.
Maybe at some point, they did believe in the vacant throne, but after some event, they decided that Imu should become the "new god"
43 minute video from daks sake? HELL YEAH!
APPRECIATE YOU! 20 min video on Vegapunk / mother flame coming Saturday too :)
Ironic that in our real world, explorers in the beginning era of explorations become pirates or were hired to be pirates by the ruling king to rob other countries of gold. Makes me wonder if Noland have live long enough to become a pirate as well instead the liar he's known to the current time.
Your channel is still so underrated, you really deserve more of an audience. love the content so much man keep it up
Here we go, just when i wad freaking bored, you uploaded
Skypiea is my favorite one of the reasons is because of Noland and Calgara's story, this is such a great analysis!
"No bitches, Noland?"
Your voice is always so nice to listen to Daks:)
Yoi! This video is amazing Dak’s, noland the greatest adventurer within the story of one piece. I wonder if these islands that have to do with adventuring will reveal more to us about noland. Like how Roger left his mark on a ponegliph with the help of oden, perhaps there will be something of noland’s left, like his true story for the people to know that he wasn’t a liar.
Usopp being revealed to have future sight the whole time for his lies would be wild. Greatest future sight feet
Such a good video. Thanks for making it.
Thank you for watching it🔥
Roger likely didnt need the shandians trust or even permission to see the bell or inscribe the message on the belfry. If you remember, the belfry was lost on top of giant jack until luffy got there. none of the shandians knew it was there. roger probably found it and told no one. there was likely no one up there on top of giant jack other than roger and his crew.
Honestly looking back at this video and its definitely a parallel to Devil fruits growing on trees as the inherited will and dreams carrying on
Do you think the missing eye of jaya is important i do think it is onigashima and also do you think zou also having a bell in the sky is connected
Yo thank you for the super thanks bro!!
Yes I think the missing eye is important. My favorite idea is that Davy (whale) came and just took a chomp out of Jaya so he kept Laugh Tale within him (and thats what the eye was). I still think onigashima is joyboy's skull
I think bells in the sky are definitely a purposeful thing from Oda - the Ox Bell is another one (although its not in the sky, but it was attached to an ancient ship.. maybe a flying ship idk). Idk what the bells mean but its awesome
Just imagine the Gorosei revealing they created the knockup stream to "send those aliens back" or smth like that. It would be such a huge showcase of their power and influence. Not only destroyed it a potential Joyboy before he could knew a single thing, it also isolated an advanced tribe from space to not mess with their ruling.
Since the ancient kingdom was super futuristic and made the porneglyphs, these stones could be something different than we always thought.
Instead of being just solid and unbreakable, there could be something like tech inside. Timecapsule. Even possible that somethings happens if you collect the stones and put them together.
It'd be crazy if you're right since we really see how couldn't hold a candle to it
And it's interesting you say that as Robin was mentioned to Cobra about the Real Poneglyph which us when you connect all of them together to discover the lost history. And in that scene, all the Poneglyphs pop up behind Robin when she is saying that and there is like a line connecting them all together so you could be right. Also, Porneglyph? Lmao!
Ah yes.. porneglyph.. the stone made by men of culture
Even if the rest of Jaya wasn't launched by Knock Up Stream, Noland's blunder would've been beyond catastrophic. The Shandians would've been wiped out, and Shandora the City of Gold would've been destroyed and I think Noland would've turned pirate from it all. So I guess in a way, that Jaya end up in the sky is very much a blessing. Although I would be surprised if the knock up stream was a world government creation.
I like the story of both Nolan and Calgara, but I could never bring myself to watch the ending after seeing it only a few times, just like I just can't bring myself to see the tragic backstory of Nami, Sanji, and especially Robin, I could bring myself to watch Brook and Chopper's tragic backstory even though Choppers always brings me to tears, I just wish I knew that background music they play during Hurluk's final moment, let me know if you guys know.
Brook has the most twisted back story imo, watching your crew die, dying with them then coming back to spend (i forgot I think its like) 40 years on the same ship unable to leave
@@RedxLilxSleepy 50 years actually, the reason I can stand watching that part is because at least his crew went out on a high note, singing Bink's brew to Laboon to the very end, to me it lessen the impact.
You might be looking for ave maria, theres some different versions of it but the hitman blood money version is the closest in my opinion
@@gamigngrampa4380 thanks for the info but I guess it's not attached to the music on looking for I guess I should say I'm meant the music that played between choppers realization and his death, I always assumed the two were one music.
I've read somewhere that that Huge Knockup Stream was probably the result of the making of Enies Lobby, one sucks water, one sprout them out, probably connected by an underground channel as in the illustration
I think Noland might be very inspired by Fernão Mendes Pinto, a Portuguese explorer. Who traveled the world in the 1500s and when came back to Portugal was called a liar. There is even a a joke created with his name "Fernão Mentes? Minto!" wich means "Fernão, do you lie? I lie!"
Nowadays we know that the stories he told, about the lands, people, creatures he saw, and traditions were actually true, some of the things are describes in a strange way, but if you think a bit you might find out what it actually is.
I'm happy when Nami told Zoro a story about Noland in Live Action. It will be a strong foreshadowing in Live Action.
I just randomly stumbled upon this video. It is just so beautifully said. I can’t believe how much of a genius Oda is
Just started listening. Noland’s is one of my favorite backstories. I’ll never understand those who disregard Skypeia as a whole. It always felt like it was one of the most important parts to early OP along with Alabasta.
Rodger didn't meet the shandian I belive because it was gonfall who ruled upper yard during Rodgers era
Absolutely fantastic video KING, we appreciate the hard work 😤 also that was a clever ad plug lol 😭 also also thanks for always saying wassup when we cross paths in stream 🤓💯
interesting you mentioned the dates, In case you don't know already, One Piece is set in 1522, the same year Ferdinand Magellan completed the world's first circumnavigation. Interesting detail but Magellan died before finishing the journey, foreshadowing?
What the name of the intro tune that is played in the background
my only gripe with that story is the fact that noland went back and told everyone about the gold knowing the king and his men would immediately go back and try taking everything if the island was there i feel they wouldve crossed a line somewhere and went as far as killing the islanders probably starting a war with nolands friends to the point where he'd have to choose a side
Exactly, Noland was a bit naive in that regard. That’s like his biggest flaw (like Oden with orochi tbh)
It is a great day, when Dak posts a new video.
Nolan D. Montblanc also bears the cross shaped scar 8:48
Bro all your videos HIT‼️ In my opinion One Piece doesn’t truly feeling like One Piece until you get to Skypeia!! The whole setup from Jiya to the end was BEYOND PEAK!! We got soooooooo much introduced it’s crazy and it’s truly a arc of info dumps for the future of OP😂😂 I have a new appreciation for Noland and his FEATS MY GOD‼️
I also think Noland could hear Voice of all things
after mentioning the garp looking character are we not gonna talk about the boy who got cured being luffy with longer hair? And calagra has similar markings to dragon and dragon would give up everything to stop the government including his own son.
the Skypeans didn't let Roger scribble on the belfry, because at the time no one except Roger knew it was up on Giant Jack
8:01 that ships symbol being destroyed by Kalgara resembels the world goverment cross too much ...
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Kalgara was my favorite charaxter with Wiper "for our ancestors", rainny day.
whenever i hear the happy music at 21:00 it always bring the happy laughs and tears to my eyes
these days , people have theories about the world beeing under water. thats why castles were all build on the highest spot. cause royal families knew it could happen. I just realized Nolands name could be a forshadowing of that. No- Land
This was the only arc that made me cry because of the snake bashing it’s head against the beanstalk
Nolan’d wasn’t a D, and Odin smiled for a different reason being dude was happy he was able to save his friends
I had one question in mind for years now, if Noland didn't know about any treasure/one piece or Void century at this time. then who was the man or entity that told Roger about a treasure/one piece? As we know Roger was the man who made the information about the treasured public but who was the man Roger took inspiration from... yes there are Poneglyphs but Roger was not able to read them until he met Oden!!. but he already knew that Poneglyphs will show him the way to one piece
do you know something about this??
by the way, love your video/theories😁😍
When Roger met Rayleigh, he already knew the meaning of D. This is why he mentions turning the world upside down. If he knew the meaning of D, then he knew about Imu and other things. How would he know? Probably, knowledge kept hidden and passed down through his family line. It was probably the injustice done to the D clan that inspired him to find and reveal the truth, that the D's aren't demons but are on the side of god, and the "gods" are the true demons who were set in place by the devil, Imu. His family could've thought he was THE Joyboy, also.
Finding the one piece must've revealed the greater story, and that he wasn't the one to drag the mighty gods, the celestial dragons and their father/mother the devil, from their thrones and raise the D's name back up to its former glory as lights in the world.
im guessing its the man on rogers jolly roger
He learned it on lodestar Island but we don't know the details yet
wasnt it implied that the voice of all things hinted to him that whatever was on the poneglyphs was important? maybe on lodestar there was something with the voice that directly told him
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5:00 You're a bit mistaken here. Regarding the bell, nobody knew where it was - neither the Shandians nor the Skypeans. Roger befriended the old Kami for sure, probably made friends among the Skypeans as well, not sure about the Shandeans.
But befriending the natives wouldn't have had much of an impact on his search for the bell since they didn't know where it was. And it didn't seem like Roger told the natives about its location afterwards, since even the old Kami was surprised by its reveal in the end, and Enel certainly didn't know where it was. The Shandeans also didn't know the location even though it was extremely important to them. It wasn't until Luffy arrived and rang it that everybody knew. Remember, it hadn't been rung a single time since the day Upper Yard arrived at Skypea.
It seems to be heavily implied that Roger went on an adventure at Upper Yard with his crew, no oversight by the natives, found the bell when nobody else could because it had such a loud voice, read/inscribed the message, and then got out of dodge, kinda like Luffy did (minus the whole 'save the island' bit).