Yep, games don't need to last forever. I got way more than my moneys worth out of it and won't be back. It was an absolute blast to play with friends and i'll remember it fondly, but I definitely won't be reinstalling it.
For me the reason I stopped playing were 1) The movement speed was just way too coked up for my taste. 2) It felt like the vehicles were abandoned. As a heli and tank main you just felt so exposed and easy pray for any Tom, Dick and Andy that you had to camp at base. No buildable repair spots and no-one ever used the repair tool. 3) People just stopped communicating and it turned into TDM with people speeding and bunny hopping around.
Agreed. It's so crazy to me that the devs think they should increase the ttk to counter the high-kill-count flanks instead of decreasing the movement speed and making vehicles more important again. But I guess that's the result of them leaning more into the arcade identity now (bandaging being removed, etc). Edit: when I wrote this some time ago, it was said that bandaging was being removed. But recently the devs haven't shown or said anything that is pointing towards bandaging being removed, and they have shared screenshots with bandages still intact, so this change is very likely not taking place.
what made this game great was the size of lobbies and proximity chat made an environment that "casuals" and more tryhard players could all enjoy at the same time in the same match. but once the casuals and roleplayers left it was just meta tryhard players with no noobs to farm and no funny roleplay going on in the middle of all the chaos.
@@bobby6427 Those aren't "people" man those are "children". Remember that. You're in a world FULL of KIDS who just got old. They never learned, they never cared, they pick their nose and eat it too, and they do this to every video game that they can do it in because they are sad little pud pullers.
It felt like th glory days of TF2, where it was just goofy fun for most and the people who wanted to sweat could and the people being sweated on could just laugh about it with everyone else. Then the sweats got the vectors and started getting mad in the voice chat and ruined it for everyone else. Way to much hate over something goofy
This comment is exactly why I lost interest. Sometimes I would run into other players who were trying to have fun, using VOIP and "goofing around". But honestly - 95% of my experience was dying to Vectors and Snipers no interaction whatsoever beyond getting shot.. If I'm going to get sweated on by tryhards - I might as well play a game with nicer looking graphics.
Devs aren't even doing small bug fixes anymore, weekly missions keeps resetting many times a week, buildings don't make any noise when they are about to collapse, and also sometimes when you try to spawn, you get a weird black screen bug that lasts for like 10 seconds.
@@WaskiLPyou can absolutely fucking blame them. People payed money for this game just for them to abandon it basically. No new content in the game since it's been released basically
@@WaskiLP I know the dev personally. I'd guess that 7+ years of working on something non stop causes an insane level of burn out. I mean think about it: it's literally a battlefield game, but done by 1 person. He has gone radio silent recently, and I can't blame him.
Yeah, early on the grind after level 100 was straight up dumb. Grinding for the P90 was so rough that by the time I unlocked it I was burned out and done with the game.
@FishieUwU progression rate was patched after the first couple of months. So the speed of unlock and prestige etc. changed a lot depending on whether your play time was pre or post patch.
The game simply diverged from its own vision and identity. It went from a halfway point between Battlefield and Squad to somehow being more cracked out than Call of Duty, but with even worse maps and gameplay flow. Game developers need to not just blindly listen to suggestions from short-sighted fans who are mad about a game's perceived skill curve.
it always felt weird to me that it was in between squad and BF. Like... so many of the squad mechanics are rendered pointless. When there's a super fast BF respawn, there's literally no point in waiting for a medic to revive you. When there's infinite ammo boxes there's no point in magazines. The whole game just felt like it lacked an identity.
@@moonasha and yet everyone used those mechanics anyway and loved them. The game had plenty of identity. It was a casualized version of Squad that was easier to run. Now it’s just another arcade shooter
It really was the server update that killed it for me, I just want to play the game NORMALY, not snipers only, not this entire CLASS is banned, no snipers or DMRs, like... screw all of that, I just want to play the game on a normal ass server with normal rules... and I can't even find that anymore
Yeah those servers are always ran by manchildren too Squad's not really much better because it's a safespace hugbox and 90% of the admins are manchildren who will ban you for calling out their bad calls.
@@fuloran1... Palworld is a survival crafting game. A lot of people only do one or two playthroughs of those kinds of games. Comparing that to a multiplayer ONLY PvP FPS is wild.
@@mix7893Helldivers has had serious PR issues and has not been out long enough to understand its player count over time or where it's going. It is also heavily focused on live service and the player counts change with new content, albeit not that much and there are plenty of people boycotting the game because of the whole PSN account required thing and them still not providing access to countries PSN is not available in. Honestly, the issues with Helldivers has mostly been PR related, not that it was too popular. And the devs, rather than Battlebit's, backed down and decided to not overhype future updates and make sure they were focused on making the game more fun and involve the players more. The jump in popularity didn't help Helldivers' player counts, but the issue is much more on the PR side (as well as some balancing issues).
I think that there's some truth to what you said, but I think that the main thing that killed the game was the movement. Once people figured out the game's movement, it became clear that the movement speed was way too high, mantling was way too fast, and leaning was way to spammable. Once that was figured out by the community, tactical, team-oriented, and objective play plummeted in favor of movement-oriented play. That completely killed the style of the game that brought people to the game in the first place--massive teams playing for objectives.
This. When I first got the game, I played it for the conquest-like mechanics. I recently tried the game again to see how far they had gotten, and it's just not that anymore.
I hate this new generation of gaming where its just sweats running around jumping doing crazy movement one man army shit in a game that's suppose to be tactical and team orientated
The grind and the balance were the worst parts for me. Rambos, with their Vectors, ruined the game. Within a week, you were either a Vector tryhard, a medic healing people for 20 hours so you could unlock it, or you were an average person getting farmed. It became a team deathmatch because you could just out strafe bullets and lean spam like the infuriating garbage from Siege. I just quit.
Here's what did it for me: -Heavily monitored VOIP -Constant balancing of weapons despite keeping guns like the badger or vector meta for a long time -Sniper receiving 3 nerfs in one go -Vehicles, especially choppers getting nerfed to the point of not being a threat (blackhawk). -Updates. The game may have succeeded had the devs grew the team to keep it going with the money that was made.
@@Cooldude-ko7ps I was banned for an hour because I was playing music over the VOIP. It wasn't loud and people were enjoying it at the moment. You're also not able to speak like a X360 lobby otherwise you'll be banned. Compared to launch, people don't use VOIP all that much anymore. There isn't as much meme'ing nor any real communications. Throwing random insults after dying to fellow enemies who were also dead was peak.
@@Soliye.Yup, that "toxic"nvironment is actually what we crave. The devs didn't understand that. Why play a heavily monitored game from an indie company when I can just play a heavily monitored game from a AAA company? At least those guns look and sound good. These devs shot themselves in the foot. If they kept up with being honest and didn't police the chat I bet you money the game would still be popular. Ah well, good riddance. Better games on the horizon now
I just wonder how they figured the TTK was the issue with the game. It wasn’t, the speed of player movement was. Shooting a guy and seeing him spin around at Mach 3 then turn around when you’re out of ammo isn’t fun.
... I mean. They're still fairly active on the Discord and have a devcast every couple weeks and have been posting about where they are on the big update fairly often... They aren't gone. And the update is getting pretty close now. As far as I can tell, we can expect it in about a month. Maybe less, but... I'd rather overestimate than under.
@@plzletmebefrank huh, surprising. Well they could have handled the updates a little more engagingly by pushing something out in small updates or something. They have to have big big update to warrant such a wait and loss of players
@@captainMony Yeah... I can understand that. But also, lots of small updates ends up being more work because bugs will pop up after every update and you'll get more feedback which can lead to identity crises and other issues... Like... There are pros and cons. I think they did kinda disappeared where most players were concerned and a couple smaller updates would've been good.
@@plzletmebefrank defending millionaires. u see thats why the games nowadays are shit. Sheeple like you defend them for no reason. There wont be an update and they are just trying to milk as much as possible before leaving it to die.
Absolutely legendary early access when it first dropped. Most fun I've had for my money in any FPS game. I don't play anymore because I just have other things to play like CS2 and iRacing. I have come back to it once or twice, and it just didn't hit the same. Most of the casuals are gone, so there's a lot less player interaction and TTK is almost 0.0s.
The lacking presence of a "casual playerbase" has definitely made the game feel far more sweaty as a result. All we can do now is hope that whatever the devs are doing, it brings people back.
@@Messup7654 I'm not going to bother justifying the price to you, I agree it is very expensive. Regardless, I enjoy it a lot. And most people never improve and give up, which is understandable.
@@CAMIKAZE78 While I understand and agree with the whole video, (i have never played the game myself), this was kinda obvious. Like have you guys not played any FPS ever? Call of duty, as an example, is fun for 2 weeks exactly. The week after release where everyone just tries to figure out the stuff, and the week after christmas when the kids are finally able to play. Other than that, call of duty has been and always will be a sweatfest. It was like that with the og modern warfare 2 and it still will be like that now. You can't upkeep a casual fanbase with these games. Because 1) these games require a bit of time and dedication to get good in/have fun with which results in 2) casual players become tryhards. And at any point, the fanbase will have mostly transformed into that and it will be a sweatfest. Other games that aren't FPS have that too. Like strategy games (starcraft) or MOBAs (league). The difference being that you'll think it's a casual laid-back game until the 20 minute mark when shit hits the fan. People have always played PVP games to win. Thats the core spirit. You can't get that out of people because people forgot how to have fun playing the game, instead of only having while winning. Now THATS a video idea.
You missed the part where Oki pushed out a half assed audio rework/update in December dispitte being told it needed more time. Or how Oki.. the main dev nearly having mental breakdown in the BB discord server responding to the feedback from the bad audio... You also failed to mention how Oki decided not to hire other developers to assist in the games development and back fired heavily as he's the only person who can implement the new audio that was supposed to come out in April... Hence the delay with no real launch window in sight.
Your comment should be damn well pinned. God, if I had a penny for every time a game or other project went under because someone on the development team had a fucking hissy fit and threw their toys out of the cot, I'd have about 20 pennies. It's not much, but it makes me sad to see a game this successful get absolutely kneecapped by the literal children who run it, that REFUSE outright to hire anyone else to help out (there's a point about greed to be made here). I think they simply don't realize they're running a business now and have no idea how to handle everything. That includes trying to be professional when interacting with the community. Discord is very much NOT the place to do that, because like Helldivers it's an absolute fuckfest. It stopped being a passion/hobby project when they started charging money for it.
2 of the biggest things I stopped playing is that the game sound is utterly trash now (footsteps etc) And most of the matches are 30+ snipers vs snipers across the 2 base areas doing absolutely nothing useful for the match, while the rest of the classes are actually playing the match and progressing the game....
The audio update was the killer for me. It sounded unnatural as enemy foot steps were louder than the gun fire and explosions. Everything was muffled and there were no settings for me to revert. I thought to myself how could anyone think this is a good idea. I ranked it up there next to no scoreboard in an competitive fps for great ideas.
yeah this was my issue with not not so much the movement speed but the unlocks were crazy slow. I stop playing at 12 hours, and only manage to unlock like 4 assault rifles
Gotta say i had a lot of good times shredding people with c4 and vectors, or joyriding in the humvees with my brother, and farming sledgehammer kills on enemy snipers. All we can do is hope and pray that the devs are cooking..
@@CAMIKAZE78 Did you remember that they banned numerous accounts for playing music, talking, ect? There is much more to why this game died than simply it drifting out of popularity. They made a hardcore effort to ban, silence, and generally police everyone having fun. Going as far as to implement an AI to detect such things, this company partnered with an AI Unity program to silence their customers.
@@YeahNaw- yea I got banned for joking around with a friend I met in the game when I randomly found them on a random server because they were a female I was banned for sexism. When everything I said was extremely sarcastic and a joke to somebody that I knew and was friends with. what did I say? I said that women aren't allowed to talk to me because I'm allergic and a virgin, in response to someone saying no girls want to talk to me when I was trying to find my friend and saying where did she go. Apparently because I was saying it in a really loud voice to try and maximize my voice so she could hear me I was being considered sexist.
What killed it for me was how they started trying to wreck community servers after the fact, I mained a server run by RSclan where it was more of a hardcore gamemode based off the old BF3/BF4 hardcore modes, SgtOkidoki kept telling us how to run our server but with no set in stone guidelines with other servers like ours being able to do what we were doing originally but telling us to stop it for instance with it being hardcore we modified weapon damage (as health itself was not modable) so we got our weapons to a reasonable TTK for a hardcore mentality well despite Oki never (to my knowledge) being in our server he said our modifications were to much and to tone it back which lead to inconsisant TTK on our server but they wouldn't inforce it on other servers and a lot of us were honestly pissed off, a lot of what I think is missed by people who didn't run community servers is the constant trying to get set in stone guidelines on how they would like us to run our servers despite it being OUR server and then the constant backend server errors which caused even more issues for our server and community, not to mention at one point and to my knowledge this is still the case, the only way for a community server to even appear to the masses is to have people seed the server which is about 8-16 people which sucks when a community server itself has a small amount of players dedicated to it so its hard to bring it to a full capacity server I agree with your point of they should not have let us have our own servers if they A were going to cycle back on it when it was to late and B have maybe tried to make their own official versions of servers like ours to maybe appeal more to their taste but then still have community run spin offs either way if what they really wanted was a milsim game it should have had more time to cook before even touching early access and thus community servers, "QoL improvements" that further stepped from what they actually wanted etc etc
The explosive popularity of this game is what transforms a team of solo devs into a gaming company. These guys have failed to do so and this is the result unfortunately. After a year this game still doesn't know what it wants to be and is rapidly dying.
for what it is its a pretty good game my issue with it is it cant make its mind up if it wants to be like battlefield or squad and i would much rather it be a battlefield game than squad
Personally the reason I haven't played much in a long while is that exact fragmentation of the community that happened with community servers. I used to be a massive tank main in BF3/4 and was really excited to have a game with tanks back in the conversation. They were a bit underwhelm at first but I was still excited to play the rest of the game with friends and hope that as early access rolled along, the tanks (and guns like the vector lets be real) would see a balance pass to get everything in line with each other. That slowly started to be true, but once community serves popped up and the classic 24/7 Tensa, no vehicle, 2x reload, bandage full heal (See 24/7 Metro games) servers started cropping up, I knew the game was going in that direction steadily away from what I hoped it would be. It lost it's true "vision" for what the game wanted to be; a ship without a captain set adrift in a sea of infantry only, cracked out, bunny hopping, lean spamming, servers which is the whole reason I don't play CoD/BF anymore.
Bf4 had too many vechiles in most maps and vechiles were too strong compared to anti vechile options thus nobody wants to play against 1000hr tank/jet player
The hype wasn't just unreal, it was disproportionately massive. It had no right having so many players, so many sales. Unfortunately that kind of curses the game's reputation, once the population drops down to what a 3man indie game should have, people scream "The sky is falling! They had 80k players!"
You would think with all of the money they earned from sales they could hire a few more devs to keep things moving right? Or did they just cash out and run away?
@@Chevelle602 Oki, the lead dev, has a big problem with delegating stuff out to other people because he's one of those people who is OCD about the final product. It's not that he thinks others are incapable, it's like people who always have to be the last ones out the door so they know it's locked when they leave home.
I had a lot of fun playing, but it really feels dead and honestly abandoned. Don't get me wrong the game still has like 3k players so its far from a "dead game" but 8 months for an update is pretty insane especially for a title that IS in early access. You're supposed to be pushing out updates regularly or your game just dies before it fully releases. I think early on the devs were doing a great job, but they should have expanded the team right away (beyond hiring the people that made the skin update). 3 people is not enough to handle a game that was exponentially growing. I understand that maybe they want to keep their vision in house but look where its taken us. 8 months waiting on an audio update, that turned into a major overhaul update. They could have just given us parts of the update over time so they could fix any issues that come about.
For me, there was a few reasons why I stopped playing: 1. The game's pacing shifted from a more mil-sim pace to a fast past shooter. Armor cannot be repaired and will constantly slow you down even if it is broken or shot off, so players would simply just play Medic with no armor to move as fast as possible and heal as much as possible, it lead to the game feeling really imbalanced since Medic went from a support focused class to a highly aggressive class in which other glasses were basically left in the dust. Once we finally got self-healing, it was the actual nail in the coffin since Medic players got the idea that they could just outright ignore teammates and focus on themselves since "oh, my teammates can just heal themselves". 2. Weapon imbalance really killed the fun. A lot of the top-tier weapons were locked behind being a high rank which effectively made it so already good players would have access to better weaponry than less experienced players, which put the game much more in the favor of experienced players. It felt really hard to take the game casually when a player who is better than me is running Mach 10 with a Kriss Vector and beams me before I can even react since the TTK was insanely fast. During the Open Beta, the Kriss Vector was strong, but it felt more fair since you unlocked it early on, so every player practically had it, if I felt tired of dying to it I could just swap to it to be on equal footing but the Live Launch pushed it to a high rank and removed that. 3. The grind... oh dear lord where do I even begin. Medic was definitely the best way to play the game, you got high speed, actions and equipment that provide a lot of XP, and really good weaponry. Other support classes (or classes in general) did not earn enough XP to keep up with the grind. It is so bad that when they added weekly challenges, I never even bothered with them since the XP loss from using other classes was massive enough for me to warrant not changing up my gameplay. The grind itself shoehorned me into playing the game in a frankly boring way instead of actually having fun.
Yeah when it was first released to the public I played the shit out of it. I stopped playing when community servers came out. It didn’t exactly ruin the game for me, but things definitely died down compared to how I initially felt. Love the game and never hated it, but it started to feel off and not as exciting
I stopped playing because I don't have time to grind out getting weapons that are good, as well as the time it takes to unlock everything. It takes me several games to get warmed up to even be competitive nowadays, and I don't enjoy several hours of losing gunfights. So, I stopped playing. The movement speed/bunny hopping stuff killed it for me too. I stopped playing CoD because of that stuff.
Back in the beta and around release there was an energy that I just don't see now in Battle Bit. Personally I think something that made the Beta so much more fun for me was it was like an event every weekend. So many people were using the local voice back then to talk shit the the enemy or scream medic when they got downed, you could hear the fun they were having. But now I very rarely if ever hear any voice it feels like something is missing when I'm running around, like one of the pillars that made this game so much fun is no longer there.
When you record everything that comes through your players microphone (including without consent in the case of death mic), people obviously stop using voice chat
@@Noble_Ambition that has literally nothing to do with it, if you play cod which has the death mic people talk all the time. It has everything to do with the people who play the game and the experience they want.
@@corpingtons He's talking about the awful AI-ran voice moderator that everyone had to agree to when we first booted up the game. It quite literally took the fun out of shit talking because you'd get hit with arbitrary comm bans and as such made the fucking game a Safe Space™ for the thin-skinned minority of the players that can't handle it. Throw some pity to the poor heli pilots that broadcasted music, they got given permanent, non-appealable bans for simply playing music through their mic while transporting people.
@@moonasha He's talking about the awful AI-ran voice moderator that everyone had to agree to when we first booted up the game. It quite literally took the fun out of shit talking because you'd get hit with arbitrary comm bans and as such made the fucking game a Safe Space™ for the thin-skinned minority of the players that can't handle it. Throw some pity to the poor heli pilots that broadcasted music, they got given permanent, non-appealable bans for simply playing music through their mic while transporting people.
The devs saying that they wanted Battlebit to be the "spiritual successor to Battlefield 2" is what got me interested in the game, it wasn't until just over 2 hours playtime that I realized that this game fell into the _exact_ same trap as Battlefield did. It got more and more arcady with focus on KDR, the _players_ loved that because all they wanted was Battlefield 3, at that point it was simply too late for Battlebit to be what the devs wanted. If they pivoted back to BF2-style, a massive portion of the current playerbase would just leave, and if they kept doing what players asked for it would stray even further away from their initial goal and eventually join Battlefield. So I don't blame them for just stopping the updates. I don't think they "abandoned" it, I think it's more about trying to carefully bring it back on track, but by then it's probably going to be completely dead.
I tried playing with friends receintly, but there was just so many sweaties in the community server that it felt bad to play coming back from a long break. Played one game and everyone decided "that's enough battlebit for the next couple months."
Its ok to be bad at a game, learning it is part of the fun. No need to call people playing on a community server "sweaties" just for being better at the game.
ignore the greasy sweats, the game's community does definitely have a sweaty player issue. spam leaning and easy drop shotting is cheap and ruins the game's integrity, there's no problem if someone is objectively better than aiming compared to you, but the movement mechanics are being abused which just ruins it.
@@8bitRAM bad take, People arent mad that the "Sweats" are good they simply dislike the metas, A lot of players do not like Spam leaning and Movement crackheads in a semi realistic shooter my dude.
Currently (for me at least) I can only find 2 servers I can join. The 32v32 Australian server which is populated half the time and a 124v124 server in Asia where I get 120-280 ping. The only thing I want from battlebit is to be able to play it.
As a battlefield player for like 15 years, I predicted the game would immediately fall off as a fad/game of the month. People were rightfully pissed at dice/BF2042 and such wanted to show that a dev that does it right can achieve success. The issue? Cheaters. The scale. Lack of content. It should’ve been obvious that 3 devs couldn’t compete with AAA dev process, and as such of course it fell off after people experienced all they could.
@@betterjustice6697 The Feb 28 and Mar 2 updates were about community feedback and didn't add anything to the game. The last "update" was the December 19 update. It's been exactly 6 months since the update.
Watching you play was enough to make me not want the game. You're flying around the map like you're playing Quake and it looks no different than COD gameplay.
Was gonna say exactly the same, watching the smg part was like watching some cod mp7 montage. If only there had been hit markers u might even fool someone with a low res vidoe of this.
I was so pumped for the original milsim idea when they first had open betas around 2016-17, and it's sad it changed over so heavily into the arcadey game it is today. Everyone's right in their comments on the crazy movement and parkour. If this could have been one to two steps more casual than Squad but still slower-paced and thoughtful, it would have been awesome. Somehow the maps have a really weird cluttered feel + flow too. I have fond memories of taking and holding objectives as a team in so many other shooters (RS2:Viet, TF2, BF1, BF4) and it's hard to even describe how the BattleBit ones are lacking. Still respect all the work the devs have put it and the hours of enjoyment, thanks for this vid.
I miss the team play that we used to see in battlebit, I haven’t played in months because I got sort of burned out. The guns felt like they took a little too long to unlock to keep me engaged personally. I do think that if battlebit was more of a isonzo frontline system instead of the battlefield conquest system we’d see allot more team play. But it is an amazing game at the end of the day and I’m glad I have the fond memories of playing it with my brother and close mates.
A game I really wanted to main since the dropoff of PS2, but was hit with issues I could not overcome. Thinking of that movement meta still increases my blood pressure. At the end, I am just not sure the devs wanted a pseudo live service model out of their game. I believe they thought they could approach early access like the playtest, rolling things out when they were ready, and expecting the community to roll with the lumps and gaps like early access titles of old. But then they got the massive sales and tried to do a half and half, and the results speak for themselves. But I also think Battlebit entered during a year of dearth of good FPS titles. But since then, BF 2042 and BF 5 had a resurgence of players, COD had new releases, and other F2P shooters came out and drew players away. Even if Battlebit had done everything right, this game was designed to replicate those titles, and once they caught up, BB became a hard sell.
Hey if the game dies out nearly entirely, the devs will have the perfect opportunity to remold it into what they were actually looking to make in the first place It's extremely risky to do something like that but it could work if they do it correctly and it goes smoothly
I found this guy a decade ago with this planetside 2 videos when his channel barely had a thousand subs maybe a few more. Don't know how much of that content he still has up tho. I don't know how many other channels I've witnessed to some degree, like this guy, grow from extremely small to a good following, rocketjumpninja is kind of my only other one like this, maybe a few more that I just haven't watched, maybe, I know I've seen jacksepticeye grow from 200k subs to one of the top gaming dudes with markiplier and pewdiepie but that's not really comparable really? Idk.
Played demo instantly refused to buy it when I figured out they record your voice chat for when you get reported and my friend got banned for calling some toxic guy screaming at him an idiot.
I had a lot of fun for the month I bought the game. Spent 164 hours. The honeymoon phase wore off, and once small problems became more obvious. The most dangerous thing was taking a break. I came back for community servers, but the I didn't like the options available. So, I took a break again, but this time didn't come back. Game has remained uninstalled. Had a great time, voice comm was annoying as F#$% but also funny as F$(%.
They made a game that looked like battlefield, played like battlefield, even had a name that seemed to hint at it being a battlefield like game. The devs - “ehhhh I wanted this to be a mil sim..” Like brother you made this bitch!
The original idea of a milsim that any pc can run is what drove me to this game. Why can't anyone make an actual milsim that doesn't get dumbed down for the casuals.
Why they thought things like the vector and p90 was acceptable was beyond me. Certain guns made the game very unfun because they were massively OP so me and my friends got bored of it and quit. Also you forgot to mention that there was massive amounts of accounts banned for speech, music, ect. This company teamed up with unity to implement an AI censoring program that detected DMCA'd music, "inappropriate speech", and other typical AAA methods used to censor people.
I love this game. I play it every day that I have a chance to play games. I just wish there were more players like in time of old. Hopefully the update comes out and we get a nice spike and prolonged bump. AND they update the weapon customization. I want to color specific components.
While I would also put trust in a temporary bump in numbers, I really don't think it will last long. Lots of gamers get bored quick. I'm really glad though there are people like you who just enjoy the games the way they are, even when everything is far from perfect.
It just hasnt had much in content since release other than a few guns and a few maps. but then again, back in the day games released completed and didnt need 400 post launch updates. its still fun.
I really like this game. Hope on and always have fun time running, gunning, and laughing at the voice chat. It has been one of the most positive, easy-going games I've ever played online. There's not a ton of overlap but it reminds me a lot of how I felt hopping on COD4 back my senior year in high school.
I purchased on release played for about 200hours worth the money imo. One friend after another quit because they felt like they needed something like a battlepass, apparently the fun playing games is not enough of a reward for some people. When they all stopped playing I quit too
It really isn't anymore because other games make you realize you're getting rewarded for your time. If a game now doesn't do that it won't last long unless it's being carried by mods.
Does it need some sort of a battle pass? No. But is the game unrewarding? Hell yes it is. The leveling system in this game is completely ass and the game trully barely rewards you anything. You can drop hundreds of hours in the game and still not have everything unlocked. Yes, you may have an incentive to play this way but that's not a worthy ration of rewards per time spent on the game. Number one way to kill a multiplayer game is drip feeding the community content to squeeze as much time out of them as possible. It's just a stupid model which doesn't work but all the companies keep doing it so they can pride themselves with all these shitty numbers.
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is cope imo there's still fun for the sake of fun, the experience of what's going on in a match, etc. but if all of that gets replaced by sweatlords all doing the same thing, it gets rather boring quickly. to claim progression is needed to have fun is bullshit, it adds to the fun, yes, but it's not a hard requirement.
It sucks because i LOVED this game. being fully employed and juggling a incredibly busy schedule I still pumped over 300 hours into this game. this game brought me back to my childhood with bf3 but i was there to watch it slowly yet slowly die as the support for this game was pretty much dropped. It's sad to see it in the state it is now. Goodbye battlebit, lets hope its not for good.
I just don't like that nobody uses the proximity chat anymore. Maybe I just can't hear anyone but I remember warzones with people screaming, and the funniest things you'd ever hear as nothing but utter chaos unfolds around you. Men screaming, someone playing Pat Benetar's Heartbreaker, building crumbling around you. It was just so much fun when people actually spoke.
Oki has not implemented what most people consider the minimum requirements for most issues. For example, there was no official server provided for each region when the game was released. Community servers do not show what modifications have been made, making it impossible to know their specific content before joining. Community servers that have modified core content are matched with other servers instead of being matched separately. Battlebit has a sizable community, but it is evident that some features were designed without any input from the community. Additionally, there were no community tests conducted before these features were updated.
Battlebit was fun but my favorite part was the "social" aspect with the local voicechat, as soon as people went anti-social it just got boring, spend half the game running around doing nothing, it feels difficult to know how the match is actually going, it always just felt like a massive TDM where we just controlled random areas and vehicles are such a disappointment.
Bad sound design. I understand it's expensive and hard but after launch they got some money to do it, aren't they? And yeah, zero communication. Nobody used the voip like they did during beta. Also grind sucks, as a casual player I had almost zero guns unlocked.
I Remember Team Fortress 2 at one point had a quickplay feature that allowed you to connect to Official and Community servers that followed a official ruleset that disallowed mods, MOTDs, and Official Maps only at the press of a button, which can be used in Battlebit to preserve the vanilla feel and promote a community hosted vanilla feel. There should be incentives for server hosts to create these Vanilla Servers for it to work however, but they could also allow some messaged to get newer players to try community modded servers but still have a fallback to vanilla servers.
I am Brazilian. Over the past six months, the game has not received any major updates, which is really disappointing. What I wanted most was weapon customization like in real life, allowing me to attach two scopes to a weapon, for instance. Additionally, it would be amazing if the game included shotguns that are not yet available, new military vehicles, and artillery, making it a true war simulator. I can only imagine how exciting it would be to customize every detail of the weapons, choose different types of ammunition and accessories, and engage in intense battles with varied equipment. The realism of a battlefield filled with modern military vehicles, heavy artillery, and a wide range of customizable weapons would make the gaming experience truly immersive and rewarding.
I actually had no idea it hadn't updated since last year. I started playing again recently and it's still fun, but man, I forgot it dropped in early access also wow I forgot there was a milsim mode planned...... I do truly hope it still comes out someday.
Thank you for producing this little bit of internet/gaming history! I "only" played the game for 30 hours after launch and was wondering how it was doing since I enjoyed it as a game to unwind to: the core gameplay loop was just straight-up fun and the natural ambiance of a multiple-hundred player match was awesome to behold. IDK why I stopped playing, but I think Helldivers had something to do with it (which is having it's own community crisis). What a fascinating story about game design this has made.
what killed Battlebit for me. -time to kill took too long, unless you land those headshots, or run high fire rate guns. -sniper scope have massive glare -every gun has tracers giving away your position easily. -removing the ability to make minefields -hackers, being able to see where you are at all times is not fun.
They removed the ability to make minefields? How so? I've not played the game since it launched so I'm a bit out of the loop with that. As for the cheaters, thats an Easy Anti Cheat problem, which means its Easy to Cheat.
@Gunboy122 back then, you could place down as many claymores in a match. No matter if you died or not those claymores you laid down would stay until it is destroyed or triggered. This was one of the best way to slow down large team rush.
At this point it does seem like the big update will still be coming... But if it hasn't in a few months, I'll concede that. Still. They did release a couple updates and it still seems like the new update is coming... At some point. Maybe. Plus, you know... Comparing it to games where they actually did scam people out of their money is a bit much.
I really appreciate that BattleBit made the design choice with the graphics to be inclusive. Not everyone has the most up-to-date systems (especially in certain countries of the world). I hoped that this would keep this game at the top of the charts for years to come.
@@Daynation69 and the next battlefield will come out and do well while battlebit is struggling to keep players. Doesn't disprove that they said it was the battlefield killer. Hilarious! 🤣
I had a blast with the game but I haven’t had that itch to play it in a while mostly just because I’m busy and helldivers 2 is amazing. Hope battle bit continues to get updates because it is a good game
The reason i stopped playing is because vehicles, specifically the transport helicopter, just had no use. I loved being a pilot but hardly anybody gets in the helis after the first spawn wave and the miniguns on the sides have god awful accuracy and damage. I can circle the big bridge with hundreds of enemies with both gunners blazing away and theyd only get a handfull of kills before a Lav clips my tail from across the map, one shotting the heli
I bought it expecting get milsim update and for it to be seperate from the extremely fast paced gameplay, love the game and its mechanics just that the ttk is all over the place for me. I wouldve loved a gamemode where the movement is slower and guns packed a punch not just some that melted and others where i have to dump 10 rounds into a dude to kill em
the devs already got their money so i dont think they care if they lose players by making what they intended to do. hell the whole reason why they lost players in the first place was due to the changes made to pander to the battlefield/cod audience.
Blows my mind they want to make a mil sim with a minecraft lookin ass game. Clearly it should be more arcadey and fun. Sure they could tone down the movement and ttk abit. But they just needed to make it like the battlefields of old.
@@MrZBrains ever wondered why it's called "battlebit remastered"? It's cause the first one was way more milsim, but milsim enthusiasts are a minority and they don't want to play a low poly game with no textures. Battlebit would have thrived if it were a simple bf4 clone with constant support and low hardware requirements
From my own experience (I play in EU, usually in spans of two weeks with longer breaks in-between) the community servers only brought me more options to choose from, depending on my mood / or on challenges I'm looking to complete. As for now VS then, I personally think the novelty factor is the only reason we'll never experience the incredibly fun chaos that the game brought us in the beginning ... and frankly, I'm glad that a lot of not-so-patient players left the ship early, because I feel that the players who are still around today are the ones who TRULY embrace Battlebit. As long as there are even just a few people left, I'll keep coming back occasionally and just enjoy this fine game that once bent the rules of mainstream success ! ❤
I personally loved the server update as it gave me more customized servers to play on. My only issue with it was the limited scope and not being able to make my own server through a third party hosting service. I have a handful of maps I preferred to play, mostly smaller maps on 32v32. Isle, Frugis, Namak, couple others work well for 32v32. When they changed 32v32 to the same as 64v64 for Isle, I asked the devs to change it back on Reddit and they said they agreed with me and changed it back a week later.
I know my comment will be met with many people saying; "womp womp"', "skill issue", "cry about it", "git gud", and "no one cares". But idc, I'm gonna post my 2 cents on this. in my opinion, the problem with battlebit is the movement, and therefore the lack of movement. Let me try to explain; good players like their movement, and that's all fine and dandy to an extent, but the issue comes in that then, new players will be getting shit on until they either learn movement themselves, or quit the game. There is however another possibility, they learn sniping. And thus, they spend their time in the back of the map, with their 20x scope and m200, now again, this isn't a problem... to an extent. Now the problem is, most people are playing conq or inf conq, meaning with the number of snipers, you'll often have ~3 squads per team dedicated to sitting at the back of the map sniping, instead of playing obj. this means there's less people near the objectives, and matches feel sparser. Thats why I feel movement is the big killer of BBR, because it's too easy to just slap on a meta build and shit on players, forcing those players to start sniping, and thus, less active "players" if you will. Now, it's not too hard to see what's fucked up, but how do we go about fixing it? well, that's rather simple, just reduce movement speed, and it should be alright, to be honest. to respond to the sniper mains who might say "sniping requires skill, its disrespectful of you to say that "new players" are snipers" and to that, I respond: I have 600 M200 kills, 400 L96 kills, and 230 MSR kills, I'm on page 96 of the longest kill leaderboard, with a kill of 1977M, sniping (long range) isn't hard, doesn't require much skill, just a long enough scope, and bipod. to respond to the cracked out super sweats: no, it isn't a "skill issue" because movement speed is too high, its completely fair for someone who wants to be able to run a normal kit to not want to have to put up with that shit. I changed to light armor, and pp2k for 2 matches, in that time, I went from 5 kills with pp2k, to 135 kills, there's nothing "skillful" about dropshotting and changing your kit. everyone can do it, you aren't special. And just because everyone can do it, doesn't mean it should be the only thing on the battlefield. will these issues stop me personally from playing? no, I like the game, as frustrating as it can be at times, but if I was new, I could see the game being way too punishing with earlier weapons and could see people putting the game down because movement is too fast, or they don't know how to deal with snipers. my record in BBR, for those who want an estimate of the era of BBR I know, I have 917 hours, I started on aug 10 of 2023. currently I play engineer primarily, with an ak15, pg07 heat, c4, and g18. I still have fun, however there is a distinct lack of how it felt when I started. To those currently not typing out half assed responses to my somewhat valid argument, thank you for taking the time to read this.
There are days where almost no one is on. Then past 5pm you get all the sweats and the kids. At least that's how it is on NA servers. I still have a blast when I'm not raging 😂
@@ennui4249 that’s crazy, when I left, it was still doing pretty good. I had no idea any of this update stuff was happening I really thought I missed a few updates until this video landed on my feed. It’s sad seeing the game not doing to well. Idk if you are a battlefield player but it seems like everytime us battlefield fans get something else that is close to what we want it dies. God I wish World War 3 didn’t die.
@Daynation69 I played bf4 into the dirt and haven't played it in 2 years or so. I tried bf 2042 but that game was dog water. Battlebit is still good, it's the only fps I currently play.
@@ennui4249 I used to play battlebit a ton with my mates but we’ve actually recently moved over to isonzo. It’s more on the realism side of things but the team play there is peak. Gives me a sense of those old bf team play nostalgia.
They had building, but no way to actually build outside of conquest gamemode, which everyone seemingly hated; I think it was rush that you could actually build but then the battlefield would always be pushed away by the time you finish anything.
It was fun for a time, but time went on new things came out. And well, some changes made no fucking sense, tracers in sniper rifles? ImmersionBeGoneInator shit like this kills it for me.
Ah yes... Immersion. In the game that looks like Roblox and has an open(ish) mic system with 13 year olds cussing you out and screaming. Right. I have definitely ever felt the "immersion" in this software product. Definitely.
@@elecman748 ... Not really. I still hear them pretty much everytime I hop on. And it's not like the game has an age restriction... Maybe you play in a country that does have it age restricted though? Idk. Regardless, I definitely still have that experience frequently. If you don't... There's something different between us
Stopped playing when it got hard and unfun, and has NOTHING to do with servers. When players inevitably got good at the game after like 2-3 months, near when capture the flag came out, more of us noobs dropped out, making it even more inaccessible to casuals compared to when it was first released. I'm just not a pvp gamer and I deeply respect the game not catering to me. I don't enjoy being sniped after taking 40 paces in any direction. /shrug
It's low attention span. Palworld, helldivers, and now this? It isn't a coincidence. People just don't have the attention spans that they used to. Games are now just trends that die in a few weeks or months.
It's not "Short attention span" the reason, but lack of content to keep that attention or/and messed up support. Helldivers 2 went through 3 controversies, was and still is in a poor state, locked out from most countries even today. It's content got too repetetive after reaching lvl 20-30 with no new unlockables or change in gameplay. Palworld went the same way without controversy. It's a funny sandbox, but content is pretty shallow despite being wide. Early access pretty much always lead to this, as games get released mostly barebones.
Not true. The problem is that the game itself doesn't reward your time. Why should I devote my attention to a game that doesn't reward it? BattleBit also has massive balance and identity issues. So many guns and the meta is dominated by 3 of them. Movement is also way too fast and crazy compared to the rest of the game, vehicles are in a very awkward spot, class balance is terrible. Meanwhile, Helldivers is now making a comeback because the quality of the updates is massively improving. People didn't leave Helldivers because they have short attention spans, they left because the developers continued to make the game worse and less fun over time, not to mention that HD2 also has a very weak endgame, the sample grind is not exciting or engaging at all. There's also the aspect of player count explosions. If you thought there was ANY way that HD2 would retain its 480,000 concurrent player peak, you don't actually understand how player counts flow. Player counts spike massively when games launch or get large updates because all of the dedicated players get on at roughly the same time, and play it more than usual, and then after some time people stop marathoning the game and start playing it on a more normal, spread-out schedule, so the amount of people playing at once goes down, even if no one quits the game. Helldivers didn't "die" because the player count didn't stay at 480k. Palworld likewise has always held a healthy player count.
So many people say they want something different, then you give them the power to make that difference and find out that what they wanted all along, was the exact same thing.
He "ditched" Planetside just for something else than Planetside, as I understand and that's just how it is sometimes. It's perfectly fine to be tired of a game, to want to move on to other stuff - I did as well, with all my time in Planetside I felt like I have gotten what I wanted out of this game, and now I moved on to other experiences. Besides, let's also be honest, there's not much future left in sight for Planetside. The game has remained quite stale for some time, and I have little faith that the newest studio in charge will be *able* to do much to really give this game a renaissance. But don't get me wrong, there is no spite or salt in my words - that is just how things go. Nothing can last forever, and Planetside will have to go at some point. And recognizing that a game is on its way out while also enjoying it isn't incompatible, nor wrong.
in my very narrow view, people constantly compared this game to call of duty and played it like call of duty. like the game is clearly a squad-battlefield hybrid but everyone wanted it to be a movement shooter with weird time to kill and the devs were swayed in that direction as well, but never enough to satiate the cod crowd. now theyve just gone back to call of duty and the game is left without an identity.😊
you are half right about the community servers. there are NO OFFICIAL SERVER for asia server at the time before community servers are allowed, all people wanting to play from asia suffers from 100+ ping in a extremely fast TTK shooter. after community servers dropped, there's only 2 main Asia server, and both of them using official progression with no custom ruleset bringing the authentic battlebit experience. even currently nowadays asia only have 1 server with consistent 250 player during peak times which allows the full battlebit experience for Asia players, if the community servers were not dropped back then, i don't think the current server will even have any players these days
Like what I have said. A small dev team like this not hiring more ppl to help is destined to lose players and die off. If they had a bigger team then battlebit might have lived on longer and picked the right opponent. People are idiotically just pointing it as the battlefield killer and they even did the bf4 art style to show their goal which in the end failed horribly. They barely exceed 2k players now on steam and somehow 2042 an objectively "worse" game mentioned by the community is outperforming them. Why? because apparently picking a triple A studio as a indie studio with barely anyone isn't a smart option to be exact. Also they needed a bigger team to actually push out update.
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For me it was a great game that was worth my money at the time and I got what I wanted out of it
Yep, games don't need to last forever. I got way more than my moneys worth out of it and won't be back. It was an absolute blast to play with friends and i'll remember it fondly, but I definitely won't be reinstalling it.
me too, it was great fun then I got over it and now it's an awesome memory
Ultimately what matters most, I agree mate.
Translation: "I have no argument, and I don't like that people do, so I have to say SOMETHING."
@@DxBlack DxBlack translation: “I’m a moron looking to get into arguments with strangers for no reason”
For me the reason I stopped playing were 1) The movement speed was just way too coked up for my taste. 2) It felt like the vehicles were abandoned. As a heli and tank main you just felt so exposed and easy pray for any Tom, Dick and Andy that you had to camp at base. No buildable repair spots and no-one ever used the repair tool. 3) People just stopped communicating and it turned into TDM with people speeding and bunny hopping around.
Agreed. It's so crazy to me that the devs think they should increase the ttk to counter the high-kill-count flanks instead of decreasing the movement speed and making vehicles more important again. But I guess that's the result of them leaning more into the arcade identity now (bandaging being removed, etc).
Edit: when I wrote this some time ago, it was said that bandaging was being removed. But recently the devs haven't shown or said anything that is pointing towards bandaging being removed, and they have shared screenshots with bandages still intact, so this change is very likely not taking place.
Since the devs police voice chat no wonder people stopped talking.
I second that
movement speed is very fluid what r u on
@@st4my721 it literally allows abusing ping and dodging bullets mid air. If you cannot live without it then git gud, learn positioning.
what made this game great was the size of lobbies and proximity chat made an environment that "casuals" and more tryhard players could all enjoy at the same time in the same match. but once the casuals and roleplayers left it was just meta tryhard players with no noobs to farm and no funny roleplay going on in the middle of all the chaos.
I stopped playing once ppl started hating on me for roleplaying
@@bobby6427 Those aren't "people" man those are "children". Remember that. You're in a world FULL of KIDS who just got old. They never learned, they never cared, they pick their nose and eat it too, and they do this to every video game that they can do it in because they are sad little pud pullers.
It felt like th glory days of TF2, where it was just goofy fun for most and the people who wanted to sweat could and the people being sweated on could just laugh about it with everyone else. Then the sweats got the vectors and started getting mad in the voice chat and ruined it for everyone else. Way to much hate over something goofy
they also reduced the distance which you can hear other players
This comment is exactly why I lost interest.
Sometimes I would run into other players who were trying to have fun, using VOIP and "goofing around". But honestly - 95% of my experience was dying to Vectors and Snipers no interaction whatsoever beyond getting shot..
If I'm going to get sweated on by tryhards - I might as well play a game with nicer looking graphics.
Devs aren't even doing small bug fixes anymore, weekly missions keeps resetting many times a week, buildings don't make any noise when they are about to collapse, and also sometimes when you try to spawn, you get a weird black screen bug that lasts for like 10 seconds.
That last thing is so annoying
They got a hit, made a shit ton of money and are now chilling. It sucks, but I cant even blame them. The hype is over, you got the money.
@@WaskiLPyou can absolutely fucking blame them. People payed money for this game just for them to abandon it basically. No new content in the game since it's been released basically
@@WaskiLP I know the dev personally. I'd guess that 7+ years of working on something non stop causes an insane level of burn out. I mean think about it: it's literally a battlefield game, but done by 1 person. He has gone radio silent recently, and I can't blame him.
Put 200+ hours into the game and only had like half of the guns unlocked. The grind sucked dick.
Yeah, early on the grind after level 100 was straight up dumb. Grinding for the P90 was so rough that by the time I unlocked it I was burned out and done with the game.
??? i have 120 hours, work 40 hours a week, and i prestige twice...
@@FishieUwU you have mental illness.
@FishieUwU progression rate was patched after the first couple of months. So the speed of unlock and prestige etc. changed a lot depending on whether your play time was pre or post patch.
@@LordBillington42 i know, most of my hours were before that update
The game simply diverged from its own vision and identity. It went from a halfway point between Battlefield and Squad to somehow being more cracked out than Call of Duty, but with even worse maps and gameplay flow. Game developers need to not just blindly listen to suggestions from short-sighted fans who are mad about a game's perceived skill curve.
Indeed. Games are art, and developers need to defend their artistic vision a bit more sometimes
it always felt weird to me that it was in between squad and BF. Like... so many of the squad mechanics are rendered pointless. When there's a super fast BF respawn, there's literally no point in waiting for a medic to revive you. When there's infinite ammo boxes there's no point in magazines. The whole game just felt like it lacked an identity.
@@moonasha and yet everyone used those mechanics anyway and loved them. The game had plenty of identity. It was a casualized version of Squad that was easier to run. Now it’s just another arcade shooter
@@trashcompactorYT everyone? lol do you read reddit and comments. Everyone was saying this from day 1
@@tuelzalt no they weren’t. I playtested the game for years.
It really was the server update that killed it for me, I just want to play the game NORMALY, not snipers only, not this entire CLASS is banned, no snipers or DMRs, like... screw all of that, I just want to play the game on a normal ass server with normal rules... and I can't even find that anymore
Yeah those servers are always ran by manchildren too
Squad's not really much better because it's a safespace hugbox and 90% of the admins are manchildren who will ban you for calling out their bad calls.
Aren't you able to set queue settings for official only? Or was that changed?
@@ImDaRealBoi yea, but there's only 2 servers...
@@Ryder42 This is what always killed the Battlefield games for me too, tons of weird custom server settings and no populated official servers.
Same here, I’m in Oceania so once the player base gets diluted the game almost always dies. And that’s what happened with battle bit
Becoming popular so fast can kill projects.
Hello Palworld
Hello Helldivers.
@@fuloran1... Palworld is a survival crafting game. A lot of people only do one or two playthroughs of those kinds of games. Comparing that to a multiplayer ONLY PvP FPS is wild.
@@mix7893Helldivers has had serious PR issues and has not been out long enough to understand its player count over time or where it's going.
It is also heavily focused on live service and the player counts change with new content, albeit not that much and there are plenty of people boycotting the game because of the whole PSN account required thing and them still not providing access to countries PSN is not available in.
Honestly, the issues with Helldivers has mostly been PR related, not that it was too popular. And the devs, rather than Battlebit's, backed down and decided to not overhype future updates and make sure they were focused on making the game more fun and involve the players more.
The jump in popularity didn't help Helldivers' player counts, but the issue is much more on the PR side (as well as some balancing issues).
These twitch hype bandwagon games always die off quickly.
If the devs want a resurgence with this game, their gonna have to add more than just audio with their next update.
Yeah, when I heard there was a Devcast to discuss development of the game, and after months all they were cooking was AUDIO UPDATES?!?!
Jeez Louise
oki still trying to get his phd on feet to perfect footstep sounds
You do realise they are cooking a lot more than just audio right
Game is dead anyway. Very few people will go back each update.
@@palmabolpwhat's the point of the cooking when there's nobody left to feed?
I think that there's some truth to what you said, but I think that the main thing that killed the game was the movement. Once people figured out the game's movement, it became clear that the movement speed was way too high, mantling was way too fast, and leaning was way to spammable. Once that was figured out by the community, tactical, team-oriented, and objective play plummeted in favor of movement-oriented play. That completely killed the style of the game that brought people to the game in the first place--massive teams playing for objectives.
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This. When I first got the game, I played it for the conquest-like mechanics. I recently tried the game again to see how far they had gotten, and it's just not that anymore.
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I hate this new generation of gaming where its just sweats running around jumping doing crazy movement one man army shit in a game that's suppose to be tactical and team orientated
I stopped as i got bored with it. But I really god my moneys worth and no regrets
The grind and the balance were the worst parts for me. Rambos, with their Vectors, ruined the game. Within a week, you were either a Vector tryhard, a medic healing people for 20 hours so you could unlock it, or you were an average person getting farmed. It became a team deathmatch because you could just out strafe bullets and lean spam like the infuriating garbage from Siege. I just quit.
The vector was so bad OP for so long i quit. Really sad.
Lean spam is 70% why I left
Here's what did it for me:
-Heavily monitored VOIP
-Constant balancing of weapons despite keeping guns like the badger or vector meta for a long time
-Sniper receiving 3 nerfs in one go
-Vehicles, especially choppers getting nerfed to the point of not being a threat (blackhawk).
-Updates. The game may have succeeded had the devs grew the team to keep it going with the money that was made.
Heavily monitored voip/proxy chat?
@@Cooldude-ko7ps I was banned for an hour because I was playing music over the VOIP. It wasn't loud and people were enjoying it at the moment.
You're also not able to speak like a X360 lobby otherwise you'll be banned.
Compared to launch, people don't use VOIP all that much anymore. There isn't as much meme'ing nor any real communications.
Throwing random insults after dying to fellow enemies who were also dead was peak.
@@Soliye. damn
@@Soliye.Yup, that "toxic"nvironment is actually what we crave. The devs didn't understand that. Why play a heavily monitored game from an indie company when I can just play a heavily monitored game from a AAA company? At least those guns look and sound good. These devs shot themselves in the foot. If they kept up with being honest and didn't police the chat I bet you money the game would still be popular. Ah well, good riddance. Better games on the horizon now
@@Soliye.Idk i dont see much of a difference.
I just wonder how they figured the TTK was the issue with the game. It wasn’t, the speed of player movement was. Shooting a guy and seeing him spin around at Mach 3 then turn around when you’re out of ammo isn’t fun.
what is TTK?
@@TwoPowersCZE time to kill
They figured that because all the cod kiddies who only know TTK came in and fucking whined about it
maybe dont miss so much then lmao
@@FishieUwU people like you are the reason games like these die
I love how they literally did a AAA move and disappeared ironically
... I mean. They're still fairly active on the Discord and have a devcast every couple weeks and have been posting about where they are on the big update fairly often... They aren't gone. And the update is getting pretty close now. As far as I can tell, we can expect it in about a month. Maybe less, but... I'd rather overestimate than under.
@@plzletmebefrank huh, surprising. Well they could have handled the updates a little more engagingly by pushing something out in small updates or something. They have to have big big update to warrant such a wait and loss of players
@@captainMony Yeah... I can understand that. But also, lots of small updates ends up being more work because bugs will pop up after every update and you'll get more feedback which can lead to identity crises and other issues...
Like... There are pros and cons. I think they did kinda disappeared where most players were concerned and a couple smaller updates would've been good.
@@plzletmebefrank ig we can't underestimate the difficulty of software stuff ...i have done my part with buying the game i can only wait and see.
@@plzletmebefrank defending millionaires. u see thats why the games nowadays are shit. Sheeple like you defend them for no reason. There wont be an update and they are just trying to milk as much as possible before leaving it to die.
Absolutely legendary early access when it first dropped. Most fun I've had for my money in any FPS game. I don't play anymore because I just have other things to play like CS2 and iRacing. I have come back to it once or twice, and it just didn't hit the same. Most of the casuals are gone, so there's a lot less player interaction and TTK is almost 0.0s.
The lacking presence of a "casual playerbase" has definitely made the game feel far more sweaty as a result. All we can do now is hope that whatever the devs are doing, it brings people back.
I racing told me everything I needed to know especially how you pay to pay to play and to lose every race
@@Messup7654 I'm not going to bother justifying the price to you, I agree it is very expensive. Regardless, I enjoy it a lot. And most people never improve and give up, which is understandable.
@@quinnseitz1377 Professional response right there, those games have a massive learning curve so going through it is respectable.
@@CAMIKAZE78 While I understand and agree with the whole video, (i have never played the game myself), this was kinda obvious. Like have you guys not played any FPS ever?
Call of duty, as an example, is fun for 2 weeks exactly. The week after release where everyone just tries to figure out the stuff, and the week after christmas when the kids are finally able to play. Other than that, call of duty has been and always will be a sweatfest. It was like that with the og modern warfare 2 and it still will be like that now.
You can't upkeep a casual fanbase with these games. Because 1) these games require a bit of time and dedication to get good in/have fun with which results in 2) casual players become tryhards. And at any point, the fanbase will have mostly transformed into that and it will be a sweatfest. Other games that aren't FPS have that too. Like strategy games (starcraft) or MOBAs (league). The difference being that you'll think it's a casual laid-back game until the 20 minute mark when shit hits the fan. People have always played PVP games to win. Thats the core spirit. You can't get that out of people because people forgot how to have fun playing the game, instead of only having while winning. Now THATS a video idea.
You missed the part where Oki pushed out a half assed audio rework/update in December dispitte being told it needed more time.
Or how Oki.. the main dev nearly having mental breakdown in the BB discord server responding to the feedback from the bad audio...
You also failed to mention how Oki decided not to hire other developers to assist in the games development and back fired heavily as he's the only person who can implement the new audio that was supposed to come out in April... Hence the delay with no real launch window in sight.
Yep... Oki is the main problem with the game, and will forever be until he learns how to be an adult, until then... The game is fucked.
Don't forget Vilaskis and his horseshit map designs
1 year on and all they've worked on is an audio update? lol. lmao
Your comment should be damn well pinned.
God, if I had a penny for every time a game or other project went under because someone on the development team had a fucking hissy fit and threw their toys out of the cot, I'd have about 20 pennies.
It's not much, but it makes me sad to see a game this successful get absolutely kneecapped by the literal children who run it, that REFUSE outright to hire anyone else to help out (there's a point about greed to be made here).
I think they simply don't realize they're running a business now and have no idea how to handle everything. That includes trying to be professional when interacting with the community. Discord is very much NOT the place to do that, because like Helldivers it's an absolute fuckfest.
It stopped being a passion/hobby project when they started charging money for it.
2 of the biggest things I stopped playing is that the game sound is utterly trash now (footsteps etc)
And most of the matches are 30+ snipers vs snipers across the 2 base areas doing absolutely nothing useful for the match, while the rest of the classes are actually playing the match and progressing the game....
The audio update was the killer for me. It sounded unnatural as enemy foot steps were louder than the gun fire and explosions. Everything was muffled and there were no settings for me to revert. I thought to myself how could anyone think this is a good idea. I ranked it up there next to no scoreboard in an competitive fps for great ideas.
CoD not showing K/D lmfao. Developers seem to be idiots nowadays
The movement speed is wayy too fast. That and the crazy grind to unlock weapons and attachments both killed the game for me and many others.
yeah this was my issue with not not so much the movement speed but the unlocks were crazy slow. I stop playing at 12 hours, and only manage to unlock like 4 assault rifles
Gotta say i had a lot of good times shredding people with c4 and vectors, or joyriding in the humvees with my brother, and farming sledgehammer kills on enemy snipers. All we can do is hope and pray that the devs are cooking..
Amen to that mate, cheers for sharing your experience here today.
@@CAMIKAZE78 Did you remember that they banned numerous accounts for playing music, talking, ect? There is much more to why this game died than simply it drifting out of popularity. They made a hardcore effort to ban, silence, and generally police everyone having fun. Going as far as to implement an AI to detect such things, this company partnered with an AI Unity program to silence their customers.
its been 7 months since the last update, they aren't cooking shit
The devs are cooked
@@YeahNaw- yea I got banned for joking around with a friend I met in the game when I randomly found them on a random server because they were a female I was banned for sexism. When everything I said was extremely sarcastic and a joke to somebody that I knew and was friends with. what did I say? I said that women aren't allowed to talk to me because I'm allergic and a virgin, in response to someone saying no girls want to talk to me when I was trying to find my friend and saying where did she go. Apparently because I was saying it in a really loud voice to try and maximize my voice so she could hear me I was being considered sexist.
What killed it for me was how they started trying to wreck community servers after the fact, I mained a server run by RSclan where it was more of a hardcore gamemode based off the old BF3/BF4 hardcore modes, SgtOkidoki kept telling us how to run our server but with no set in stone guidelines with other servers like ours being able to do what we were doing originally but telling us to stop it
for instance with it being hardcore we modified weapon damage (as health itself was not modable) so we got our weapons to a reasonable TTK for a hardcore mentality well despite Oki never (to my knowledge) being in our server he said our modifications were to much and to tone it back which lead to inconsisant TTK on our server but they wouldn't inforce it on other servers and a lot of us were honestly pissed off,
a lot of what I think is missed by people who didn't run community servers is the constant trying to get set in stone guidelines on how they would like us to run our servers despite it being OUR server and then the constant backend server errors which caused even more issues for our server and community, not to mention at one point and to my knowledge this is still the case, the only way for a community server to even appear to the masses is to have people seed the server which is about 8-16 people which sucks when a community server itself has a small amount of players dedicated to it so its hard to bring it to a full capacity server
I agree with your point of they should not have let us have our own servers if they A were going to cycle back on it when it was to late and B have maybe tried to make their own official versions of servers like ours to maybe appeal more to their taste but then still have community run spin offs
either way if what they really wanted was a milsim game it should have had more time to cook before even touching early access and thus community servers, "QoL improvements" that further stepped from what they actually wanted etc etc
LOL WHAT dude thats insane
The explosive popularity of this game is what transforms a team of solo devs into a gaming company. These guys have failed to do so and this is the result unfortunately.
After a year this game still doesn't know what it wants to be and is rapidly dying.
They had lightning in a bottle and now only the echo of its thunder remains
@@sleep3417 so deep
the game was so fun at first when every lobby you went into was full of people either yelling, roleplaying as a real soldiers or playing random music
for what it is its a pretty good game my issue with it is it cant make its mind up if it wants to be like battlefield or squad and i would much rather it be a battlefield game than squad
Battlefield? It got twisted into COD with the movement mechanics simply not being touched.
@@Gunboy122”movement mechanics are broken” devs: “oh so you want to have to shoot someone 500 times?”
Personally the reason I haven't played much in a long while is that exact fragmentation of the community that happened with community servers. I used to be a massive tank main in BF3/4 and was really excited to have a game with tanks back in the conversation. They were a bit underwhelm at first but I was still excited to play the rest of the game with friends and hope that as early access rolled along, the tanks (and guns like the vector lets be real) would see a balance pass to get everything in line with each other. That slowly started to be true, but once community serves popped up and the classic 24/7 Tensa, no vehicle, 2x reload, bandage full heal (See 24/7 Metro games) servers started cropping up, I knew the game was going in that direction steadily away from what I hoped it would be. It lost it's true "vision" for what the game wanted to be; a ship without a captain set adrift in a sea of infantry only, cracked out, bunny hopping, lean spamming, servers which is the whole reason I don't play CoD/BF anymore.
m8 go play war thunder or something then, no1 i know likes tank spammers
Bf4 had too many vechiles in most maps and vechiles were too strong compared to anti vechile options thus nobody wants to play against 1000hr tank/jet player
@@st4my721 m8 no one likes lean goblins and peeople bunny hopping and jumping everytime they get shot its fucking stupid
@@sarunotaslt Get good? it was very easy to kill vics in that game you had plenty PLENTY of options
@@thedayzgod there are so many options that you didn't name any
The hype wasn't just unreal, it was disproportionately massive. It had no right having so many players, so many sales.
Unfortunately that kind of curses the game's reputation, once the population drops down to what a 3man indie game should have, people scream "The sky is falling! They had 80k players!"
You would think with all of the money they earned from sales they could hire a few more devs to keep things moving right?
Or did they just cash out and run away?
The game was definitely propped up by 2042 being completely and utterly fumbled
@@Chevelle602 Oki, the lead dev, has a big problem with delegating stuff out to other people because he's one of those people who is OCD about the final product. It's not that he thinks others are incapable, it's like people who always have to be the last ones out the door so they know it's locked when they leave home.
@@No_Feelingsso he's a bad programmer lol
I had a lot of fun playing, but it really feels dead and honestly abandoned. Don't get me wrong the game still has like 3k players so its far from a "dead game" but 8 months for an update is pretty insane especially for a title that IS in early access. You're supposed to be pushing out updates regularly or your game just dies before it fully releases. I think early on the devs were doing a great job, but they should have expanded the team right away (beyond hiring the people that made the skin update). 3 people is not enough to handle a game that was exponentially growing. I understand that maybe they want to keep their vision in house but look where its taken us. 8 months waiting on an audio update, that turned into a major overhaul update. They could have just given us parts of the update over time so they could fix any issues that come about.
For me, there was a few reasons why I stopped playing:
1. The game's pacing shifted from a more mil-sim pace to a fast past shooter. Armor cannot be repaired and will constantly slow you down even if it is broken or shot off, so players would simply just play Medic with no armor to move as fast as possible and heal as much as possible, it lead to the game feeling really imbalanced since Medic went from a support focused class to a highly aggressive class in which other glasses were basically left in the dust. Once we finally got self-healing, it was the actual nail in the coffin since Medic players got the idea that they could just outright ignore teammates and focus on themselves since "oh, my teammates can just heal themselves".
2. Weapon imbalance really killed the fun. A lot of the top-tier weapons were locked behind being a high rank which effectively made it so already good players would have access to better weaponry than less experienced players, which put the game much more in the favor of experienced players. It felt really hard to take the game casually when a player who is better than me is running Mach 10 with a Kriss Vector and beams me before I can even react since the TTK was insanely fast. During the Open Beta, the Kriss Vector was strong, but it felt more fair since you unlocked it early on, so every player practically had it, if I felt tired of dying to it I could just swap to it to be on equal footing but the Live Launch pushed it to a high rank and removed that.
3. The grind... oh dear lord where do I even begin. Medic was definitely the best way to play the game, you got high speed, actions and equipment that provide a lot of XP, and really good weaponry. Other support classes (or classes in general) did not earn enough XP to keep up with the grind. It is so bad that when they added weekly challenges, I never even bothered with them since the XP loss from using other classes was massive enough for me to warrant not changing up my gameplay. The grind itself shoehorned me into playing the game in a frankly boring way instead of actually having fun.
Yeah when it was first released to the public I played the shit out of it. I stopped playing when community servers came out. It didn’t exactly ruin the game for me, but things definitely died down compared to how I initially felt. Love the game and never hated it, but it started to feel off and not as exciting
I stopped playing because I don't have time to grind out getting weapons that are good, as well as the time it takes to unlock everything. It takes me several games to get warmed up to even be competitive nowadays, and I don't enjoy several hours of losing gunfights. So, I stopped playing. The movement speed/bunny hopping stuff killed it for me too. I stopped playing CoD because of that stuff.
That bunny hopping shit is ass😂 These people will do anything for an advantage in a gunfight
The grind to unlock anything was pretty ridiculous, I understand them wanting to stretch out rewards but how BB did it was too far.
@@Gunboy122 i not saying you are wrong but bf2 was bad you get 2 points for a kill and needed like 10000 point for next rank
Kinda skill issue
@@tinek9844 Responses like yours to critiques like this are why the game died it's like you didn't even watch the video
Back in the beta and around release there was an energy that I just don't see now in Battle Bit. Personally I think something that made the Beta so much more fun for me was it was like an event every weekend. So many people were using the local voice back then to talk shit the the enemy or scream medic when they got downed, you could hear the fun they were having. But now I very rarely if ever hear any voice it feels like something is missing when I'm running around, like one of the pillars that made this game so much fun is no longer there.
When you record everything that comes through your players microphone (including without consent in the case of death mic), people obviously stop using voice chat
@@Noble_Ambitionwhat?
@@Noble_Ambition that has literally nothing to do with it, if you play cod which has the death mic people talk all the time. It has everything to do with the people who play the game and the experience they want.
@@corpingtons He's talking about the awful AI-ran voice moderator that everyone had to agree to when we first booted up the game. It quite literally took the fun out of shit talking because you'd get hit with arbitrary comm bans and as such made the fucking game a Safe Space™ for the thin-skinned minority of the players that can't handle it.
Throw some pity to the poor heli pilots that broadcasted music, they got given permanent, non-appealable bans for simply playing music through their mic while transporting people.
@@moonasha He's talking about the awful AI-ran voice moderator that everyone had to agree to when we first booted up the game. It quite literally took the fun out of shit talking because you'd get hit with arbitrary comm bans and as such made the fucking game a Safe Space™ for the thin-skinned minority of the players that can't handle it.
Throw some pity to the poor heli pilots that broadcasted music, they got given permanent, non-appealable bans for simply playing music through their mic while transporting people.
The devs saying that they wanted Battlebit to be the "spiritual successor to Battlefield 2" is what got me interested in the game, it wasn't until just over 2 hours playtime that I realized that this game fell into the _exact_ same trap as Battlefield did.
It got more and more arcady with focus on KDR, the _players_ loved that because all they wanted was Battlefield 3, at that point it was simply too late for Battlebit to be what the devs wanted.
If they pivoted back to BF2-style, a massive portion of the current playerbase would just leave, and if they kept doing what players asked for it would stray even further away from their initial goal and eventually join Battlefield.
So I don't blame them for just stopping the updates.
I don't think they "abandoned" it, I think it's more about trying to carefully bring it back on track, but by then it's probably going to be completely dead.
I tried playing with friends receintly, but there was just so many sweaties in the community server that it felt bad to play coming back from a long break. Played one game and everyone decided "that's enough battlebit for the next couple months."
Skill issue
Its ok to be bad at a game, learning it is part of the fun. No need to call people playing on a community server "sweaties" just for being better at the game.
ignore the greasy sweats, the game's community does definitely have a sweaty player issue. spam leaning and easy drop shotting is cheap and ruins the game's integrity, there's no problem if someone is objectively better than aiming compared to you, but the movement mechanics are being abused which just ruins it.
@@8bitRAM bad take, People arent mad that the "Sweats" are good they simply dislike the metas, A lot of players do not like Spam leaning and Movement crackheads in a semi realistic shooter my dude.
You know you could just express what you’re saying in 4 words
"LET ME WIN, SWEATS!!"
Currently (for me at least) I can only find 2 servers I can join. The 32v32 Australian server which is populated half the time and a 124v124 server in Asia where I get 120-280 ping. The only thing I want from battlebit is to be able to play it.
there havent been any servers to play on for me since they added community servers. i only played 127 conwquest NA and there are none.
@@SirSquash pretty sure the official server rotate between gamemodes there is like always 1 or 2 in N/A
2042 portal made the same mistake. Was supposed to be a nostalgia trip but wound up being xp boosting or god awful GWOT "milsim" servers
As a battlefield player for like 15 years, I predicted the game would immediately fall off as a fad/game of the month. People were rightfully pissed at dice/BF2042 and such wanted to show that a dev that does it right can achieve success. The issue? Cheaters. The scale. Lack of content. It should’ve been obvious that 3 devs couldn’t compete with AAA dev process, and as such of course it fell off after people experienced all they could.
8 months since an update?????
The last 2 were on, Feb 28 & Mar 2.
They must be taking notes from Dice with 2042 😂
@@betterjustice6697 The Feb 28 and Mar 2 updates were about community feedback and didn't add anything to the game. The last "update" was the December 19 update. It's been exactly 6 months since the update.
@@MeoburN07 the last real update was in november, the december update was a rollback of some previous changes (like the wallhacks from pings)
@@TheOriginalLokisam true, but at least it affected the gameplay unlike the announcements that were called updates
Watching you play was enough to make me not want the game. You're flying around the map like you're playing Quake and it looks no different than COD gameplay.
Was gonna say exactly the same, watching the smg part was like watching some cod mp7 montage. If only there had been hit markers u might even fool someone with a low res vidoe of this.
He played a huge part in turning this game into what it wasn’t.
100% agreed with all of you.
I was so pumped for the original milsim idea when they first had open betas around 2016-17, and it's sad it changed over so heavily into the arcadey game it is today. Everyone's right in their comments on the crazy movement and parkour. If this could have been one to two steps more casual than Squad but still slower-paced and thoughtful, it would have been awesome.
Somehow the maps have a really weird cluttered feel + flow too. I have fond memories of taking and holding objectives as a team in so many other shooters (RS2:Viet, TF2, BF1, BF4) and it's hard to even describe how the BattleBit ones are lacking. Still respect all the work the devs have put it and the hours of enjoyment, thanks for this vid.
I miss the team play that we used to see in battlebit, I haven’t played in months because I got sort of burned out. The guns felt like they took a little too long to unlock to keep me engaged personally. I do think that if battlebit was more of a isonzo frontline system instead of the battlefield conquest system we’d see allot more team play. But it is an amazing game at the end of the day and I’m glad I have the fond memories of playing it with my brother and close mates.
I still play every few days but the game needs that content bad I don't want it to die.
A game I really wanted to main since the dropoff of PS2, but was hit with issues I could not overcome. Thinking of that movement meta still increases my blood pressure.
At the end, I am just not sure the devs wanted a pseudo live service model out of their game. I believe they thought they could approach early access like the playtest, rolling things out when they were ready, and expecting the community to roll with the lumps and gaps like early access titles of old. But then they got the massive sales and tried to do a half and half, and the results speak for themselves.
But I also think Battlebit entered during a year of dearth of good FPS titles. But since then, BF 2042 and BF 5 had a resurgence of players, COD had new releases, and other F2P shooters came out and drew players away. Even if Battlebit had done everything right, this game was designed to replicate those titles, and once they caught up, BB became a hard sell.
RIP planetside
man I miss planetside 2. Battlebit kind of filled that role but I miss squad play, currently all you get is run and gun
Hey if the game dies out nearly entirely, the devs will have the perfect opportunity to remold it into what they were actually looking to make in the first place
It's extremely risky to do something like that but it could work if they do it correctly and it goes smoothly
Love the text boxes that explain some things and show the gun stats.
Could use some tweaks and more of them, but it's great to have them.
This celebrates 1 year since I found your channel. Cheers mate
I found this guy a decade ago with this planetside 2 videos when his channel barely had a thousand subs maybe a few more. Don't know how much of that content he still has up tho. I don't know how many other channels I've witnessed to some degree, like this guy, grow from extremely small to a good following, rocketjumpninja is kind of my only other one like this, maybe a few more that I just haven't watched, maybe, I know I've seen jacksepticeye grow from 200k subs to one of the top gaming dudes with markiplier and pewdiepie but that's not really comparable really? Idk.
Cheers to you mate. Thanks for the support over the year!
Played demo instantly refused to buy it when I figured out they record your voice chat for when you get reported and my friend got banned for calling some toxic guy screaming at him an idiot.
I am 100% convinced the word your friend used was not "idiot" 💀
EVERYTHING that gets hyped on YT has a very quick death. Idiots on YT are very quick at creating hypes
I had a lot of fun for the month I bought the game. Spent 164 hours.
The honeymoon phase wore off, and once small problems became more obvious.
The most dangerous thing was taking a break.
I came back for community servers, but the I didn't like the options available.
So, I took a break again, but this time didn't come back.
Game has remained uninstalled.
Had a great time, voice comm was annoying as F#$% but also funny as F$(%.
They made a game that looked like battlefield, played like battlefield, even had a name that seemed to hint at it being a battlefield like game.
The devs - “ehhhh I wanted this to be a mil sim..”
Like brother you made this bitch!
I still can't believe they thought their block game had a chance to fit in with the same community that gushes over detail and realism.
Sad that the devs have left the game to die. Was my favorite game last year.
There was a devstream apperently today
The original idea of a milsim that any pc can run is what drove me to this game. Why can't anyone make an actual milsim that doesn't get dumbed down for the casuals.
I knew its been a while since the games had an update but I didn't think its been that long
Why they thought things like the vector and p90 was acceptable was beyond me. Certain guns made the game very unfun because they were massively OP so me and my friends got bored of it and quit. Also you forgot to mention that there was massive amounts of accounts banned for speech, music, ect. This company teamed up with unity to implement an AI censoring program that detected DMCA'd music, "inappropriate speech", and other typical AAA methods used to censor people.
I love this game. I play it every day that I have a chance to play games. I just wish there were more players like in time of old. Hopefully the update comes out and we get a nice spike and prolonged bump. AND they update the weapon customization. I want to color specific components.
While I would also put trust in a temporary bump in numbers, I really don't think it will last long. Lots of gamers get bored quick. I'm really glad though there are people like you who just enjoy the games the way they are, even when everything is far from perfect.
It just hasnt had much in content since release other than a few guns and a few maps. but then again, back in the day games released completed and didnt need 400 post launch updates. its still fun.
To be honest im willing to wait however long it takes for the update to come out
I really like this game. Hope on and always have fun time running, gunning, and laughing at the voice chat. It has been one of the most positive, easy-going games I've ever played online. There's not a ton of overlap but it reminds me a lot of how I felt hopping on COD4 back my senior year in high school.
I purchased on release played for about 200hours worth the money imo. One friend after another quit because they felt like they needed something like a battlepass, apparently the fun playing games is not enough of a reward for some people. When they all stopped playing I quit too
It really isn't anymore because other games make you realize you're getting rewarded for your time. If a game now doesn't do that it won't last long unless it's being carried by mods.
Does it need some sort of a battle pass? No. But is the game unrewarding? Hell yes it is. The leveling system in this game is completely ass and the game trully barely rewards you anything. You can drop hundreds of hours in the game and still not have everything unlocked. Yes, you may have an incentive to play this way but that's not a worthy ration of rewards per time spent on the game. Number one way to kill a multiplayer game is drip feeding the community content to squeeze as much time out of them as possible. It's just a stupid model which doesn't work but all the companies keep doing it so they can pride themselves with all these shitty numbers.
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is cope imo
there's still fun for the sake of fun, the experience of what's going on in a match, etc.
but if all of that gets replaced by sweatlords all doing the same thing, it gets rather boring quickly.
to claim progression is needed to have fun is bullshit, it adds to the fun, yes, but it's not a hard requirement.
@@shadowsketch926 you're more than welcome to think whatever you want.
It sucks because i LOVED this game. being fully employed and juggling a incredibly busy schedule I still pumped over 300 hours into this game. this game brought me back to my childhood with bf3 but i was there to watch it slowly yet slowly die as the support for this game was pretty much dropped.
It's sad to see it in the state it is now.
Goodbye battlebit, lets hope its not for good.
I just don't like that nobody uses the proximity chat anymore. Maybe I just can't hear anyone but I remember warzones with people screaming, and the funniest things you'd ever hear as nothing but utter chaos unfolds around you. Men screaming, someone playing Pat Benetar's Heartbreaker, building crumbling around you.
It was just so much fun when people actually spoke.
I met a good friend of mine on the last playtest by just blasting music on my mic and screaming like a rtard. Good times.
Oki has not implemented what most people consider the minimum requirements for most issues.
For example, there was no official server provided for each region when the game was released.
Community servers do not show what modifications have been made, making it impossible to know their specific content before joining.
Community servers that have modified core content are matched with other servers instead of being matched separately.
Battlebit has a sizable community, but it is evident that some features were designed without any input from the community. Additionally, there were no community tests conducted before these features were updated.
Battlebit was fun but my favorite part was the "social" aspect with the local voicechat, as soon as people went anti-social it just got boring, spend half the game running around doing nothing, it feels difficult to know how the match is actually going, it always just felt like a massive TDM where we just controlled random areas and vehicles are such a disappointment.
still playing… just got off 5 minutes ago. nice video! much love, i hope this game keeps growing tbh
it wont
@@fenrifegads5571 well *sorry* i hurt ur feelings?
@@r3dd3_2 it just won't grow anymore, I'm sorry
Keeps? More like starts becuase its been on a decline for a long time.
what made me love the game was vehicles specifically the BTR and camera controlled gun jeep thing
i used to go on 50kd with 100+ kills with them...
Bad sound design. I understand it's expensive and hard but after launch they got some money to do it, aren't they?
And yeah, zero communication. Nobody used the voip like they did during beta.
Also grind sucks, as a casual player I had almost zero guns unlocked.
I Remember Team Fortress 2 at one point had a quickplay feature that allowed you to connect to Official and Community servers that followed a official ruleset that disallowed mods, MOTDs, and Official Maps only at the press of a button, which can be used in Battlebit to preserve the vanilla feel and promote a community hosted vanilla feel. There should be incentives for server hosts to create these Vanilla Servers for it to work however, but they could also allow some messaged to get newer players to try community modded servers but still have a fallback to vanilla servers.
Tbh that's sad that they lose that opportunity to grow and stay with 3 people with zero purpose to explore that game...
I am Brazilian. Over the past six months, the game has not received any major updates, which is really disappointing. What I wanted most was weapon customization like in real life, allowing me to attach two scopes to a weapon, for instance. Additionally, it would be amazing if the game included shotguns that are not yet available, new military vehicles, and artillery, making it a true war simulator. I can only imagine how exciting it would be to customize every detail of the weapons, choose different types of ammunition and accessories, and engage in intense battles with varied equipment. The realism of a battlefield filled with modern military vehicles, heavy artillery, and a wide range of customizable weapons would make the gaming experience truly immersive and rewarding.
Skip past BB history lesson 12:10
Alternatively 14:50
I actually had no idea it hadn't updated since last year. I started playing again recently and it's still fun, but man, I forgot it dropped in early access
also wow I forgot there was a milsim mode planned...... I do truly hope it still comes out someday.
100% behind you in what community servers did to the game.
Thank you for producing this little bit of internet/gaming history!
I "only" played the game for 30 hours after launch and was wondering how it was doing since I enjoyed it as a game to unwind to: the core gameplay loop was just straight-up fun and the natural ambiance of a multiple-hundred player match was awesome to behold. IDK why I stopped playing, but I think Helldivers had something to do with it (which is having it's own community crisis).
What a fascinating story about game design this has made.
This is what happens when you "listen to the community". Start giving everything they ask for and bam, now it's a puddle of mud.
You have no clue what you are saying. The game is fine its the lack of updates that isnt
what killed Battlebit for me.
-time to kill took too long, unless you land those headshots, or run high fire rate guns.
-sniper scope have massive glare
-every gun has tracers giving away your position easily.
-removing the ability to make minefields
-hackers, being able to see where you are at all times is not fun.
They removed the ability to make minefields? How so? I've not played the game since it launched so I'm a bit out of the loop with that.
As for the cheaters, thats an Easy Anti Cheat problem, which means its Easy to Cheat.
@@Gunboy122 EAC is very good its just that they have the worst version and don't implement it properly
@Gunboy122 back then, you could place down as many claymores in a match. No matter if you died or not those claymores you laid down would stay until it is destroyed or triggered. This was one of the best way to slow down large team rush.
It was a really fun game, I bought it I had my fun and I moved on, I still go back every now and then though
It’s the most fun I ever had with an early access title where the dev cashed out and bailed
At this point it does seem like the big update will still be coming... But if it hasn't in a few months, I'll concede that.
Still. They did release a couple updates and it still seems like the new update is coming... At some point. Maybe.
Plus, you know... Comparing it to games where they actually did scam people out of their money is a bit much.
@@plzletmebefrank it's too late unfortunately
@@bigtopjoeybananas Not for everyone. But it's absolutely fair to not have any interest in the game anymore.
I really appreciate that BattleBit made the design choice with the graphics to be inclusive. Not everyone has the most up-to-date systems (especially in certain countries of the world). I hoped that this would keep this game at the top of the charts for years to come.
"The Battlefield Killer" they said 😂😂😂😂😂
Well battlefield doesn’t look too alive either 😂. More of “battlefields mutually assured destruction”
@@Daynation69 and the next battlefield will come out and do well while battlebit is struggling to keep players. Doesn't disprove that they said it was the battlefield killer. Hilarious! 🤣
@@azca. Battlefield killed itself.
@@AryanGenetics Battlebit killed itself
I had a blast with the game but I haven’t had that itch to play it in a while mostly just because I’m busy and helldivers 2 is amazing. Hope battle bit continues to get updates because it is a good game
They made their money and left people to play a paid version of phantom forces lmao
Lol so true
weirdly accurate
The reason i stopped playing is because vehicles, specifically the transport helicopter, just had no use. I loved being a pilot but hardly anybody gets in the helis after the first spawn wave and the miniguns on the sides have god awful accuracy and damage. I can circle the big bridge with hundreds of enemies with both gunners blazing away and theyd only get a handfull of kills before a Lav clips my tail from across the map, one shotting the heli
If this game is turning towards being a milsim the playerbase will for sure drop even more.
I thought people wanted a milsim?
I bought it expecting get milsim update and for it to be seperate from the extremely fast paced gameplay, love the game and its mechanics just that the ttk is all over the place for me. I wouldve loved a gamemode where the movement is slower and guns packed a punch not just some that melted and others where i have to dump 10 rounds into a dude to kill em
the devs already got their money so i dont think they care if they lose players by making what they intended to do. hell the whole reason why they lost players in the first place was due to the changes made to pander to the battlefield/cod audience.
Blows my mind they want to make a mil sim with a minecraft lookin ass game. Clearly it should be more arcadey and fun. Sure they could tone down the movement and ttk abit. But they just needed to make it like the battlefields of old.
@@MrZBrains ever wondered why it's called "battlebit remastered"? It's cause the first one was way more milsim, but milsim enthusiasts are a minority and they don't want to play a low poly game with no textures. Battlebit would have thrived if it were a simple bf4 clone with constant support and low hardware requirements
Games needs more of a focus on BATTLEFIELD and not feel like vehicles are ultra rare and the game feels like a TDM
From my own experience (I play in EU, usually in spans of two weeks with longer breaks in-between) the community servers only brought me more options to choose from, depending on my mood / or on challenges I'm looking to complete.
As for now VS then, I personally think the novelty factor is the only reason we'll never experience the incredibly fun chaos that the game brought us in the beginning ... and frankly, I'm glad that a lot of not-so-patient players left the ship early, because I feel that the players who are still around today are the ones who TRULY embrace Battlebit.
As long as there are even just a few people left, I'll keep coming back occasionally and just enjoy this fine game that once bent the rules of mainstream success ! ❤
I personally loved the server update as it gave me more customized servers to play on. My only issue with it was the limited scope and not being able to make my own server through a third party hosting service. I have a handful of maps I preferred to play, mostly smaller maps on 32v32. Isle, Frugis, Namak, couple others work well for 32v32. When they changed 32v32 to the same as 64v64 for Isle, I asked the devs to change it back on Reddit and they said they agreed with me and changed it back a week later.
still playing. still having fun!
I know my comment will be met with many people saying; "womp womp"', "skill issue", "cry about it", "git gud", and "no one cares". But idc, I'm gonna post my 2 cents on this. in my opinion, the problem with battlebit is the movement, and therefore the lack of movement. Let me try to explain; good players like their movement, and that's all fine and dandy to an extent, but the issue comes in that then, new players will be getting shit on until they either learn movement themselves, or quit the game. There is however another possibility, they learn sniping. And thus, they spend their time in the back of the map, with their 20x scope and m200, now again, this isn't a problem... to an extent. Now the problem is, most people are playing conq or inf conq, meaning with the number of snipers, you'll often have ~3 squads per team dedicated to sitting at the back of the map sniping, instead of playing obj. this means there's less people near the objectives, and matches feel sparser. Thats why I feel movement is the big killer of BBR, because it's too easy to just slap on a meta build and shit on players, forcing those players to start sniping, and thus, less active "players" if you will. Now, it's not too hard to see what's fucked up, but how do we go about fixing it? well, that's rather simple, just reduce movement speed, and it should be alright, to be honest.
to respond to the sniper mains who might say "sniping requires skill, its disrespectful of you to say that "new players" are snipers" and to that, I respond: I have 600 M200 kills, 400 L96 kills, and 230 MSR kills, I'm on page 96 of the longest kill leaderboard, with a kill of 1977M, sniping (long range) isn't hard, doesn't require much skill, just a long enough scope, and bipod.
to respond to the cracked out super sweats: no, it isn't a "skill issue" because movement speed is too high, its completely fair for someone who wants to be able to run a normal kit to not want to have to put up with that shit. I changed to light armor, and pp2k for 2 matches, in that time, I went from 5 kills with pp2k, to 135 kills, there's nothing "skillful" about dropshotting and changing your kit. everyone can do it, you aren't special. And just because everyone can do it, doesn't mean it should be the only thing on the battlefield.
will these issues stop me personally from playing? no, I like the game, as frustrating as it can be at times, but if I was new, I could see the game being way too punishing with earlier weapons and could see people putting the game down because movement is too fast, or they don't know how to deal with snipers.
my record in BBR, for those who want an estimate of the era of BBR I know, I have 917 hours, I started on aug 10 of 2023. currently I play engineer primarily, with an ak15, pg07 heat, c4, and g18. I still have fun, however there is a distinct lack of how it felt when I started. To those currently not typing out half assed responses to my somewhat valid argument, thank you for taking the time to read this.
I haven't stopped playing. Still love this silly game.
I haven’t played for about 5 months because I got burnt out. Is it worth it to go back?
There are days where almost no one is on. Then past 5pm you get all the sweats and the kids. At least that's how it is on NA servers. I still have a blast when I'm not raging 😂
@@ennui4249 that’s crazy, when I left, it was still doing pretty good. I had no idea any of this update stuff was happening I really thought I missed a few updates until this video landed on my feed. It’s sad seeing the game not doing to well. Idk if you are a battlefield player but it seems like everytime us battlefield fans get something else that is close to what we want it dies. God I wish World War 3 didn’t die.
@Daynation69 I played bf4 into the dirt and haven't played it in 2 years or so. I tried bf 2042 but that game was dog water. Battlebit is still good, it's the only fps I currently play.
@@ennui4249 I used to play battlebit a ton with my mates but we’ve actually recently moved over to isonzo. It’s more on the realism side of things but the team play there is peak. Gives me a sense of those old bf team play nostalgia.
I didnt know they devs wanted it to be a milsim. When i picked it up in June last year i thought it was a silly but fun version of battlefield
IM GONNA PLAY RIGHT NOW
They had building, but no way to actually build outside of conquest gamemode, which everyone seemingly hated; I think it was rush that you could actually build but then the battlefield would always be pushed away by the time you finish anything.
It was fun for a time, but time went on new things came out.
And well, some changes made no fucking sense, tracers in sniper rifles? ImmersionBeGoneInator shit like this kills it for me.
Ah yes... Immersion. In the game that looks like Roblox and has an open(ish) mic system with 13 year olds cussing you out and screaming. Right.
I have definitely ever felt the "immersion" in this software product. Definitely.
@@plzletmebefrank Ah yes... Define suspension of disbelief.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 I'm just saying, it's not really going for "immersion".
@@plzletmebefrankall the 13yo got banned for mic spamming, well, most people got banned for using the microphone anyways
@@elecman748 ... Not really. I still hear them pretty much everytime I hop on. And it's not like the game has an age restriction... Maybe you play in a country that does have it age restricted though?
Idk. Regardless, I definitely still have that experience frequently. If you don't... There's something different between us
Stopped playing when it got hard and unfun, and has NOTHING to do with servers.
When players inevitably got good at the game after like 2-3 months, near when capture the flag came out, more of us noobs dropped out, making it even more inaccessible to casuals compared to when it was first released.
I'm just not a pvp gamer and I deeply respect the game not catering to me.
I don't enjoy being sniped after taking 40 paces in any direction. /shrug
It's low attention span. Palworld, helldivers, and now this? It isn't a coincidence. People just don't have the attention spans that they used to. Games are now just trends that die in a few weeks or months.
Exacly, what updates we had for BO2 for example 🤣 and People still played it for few long years
R6, counterstrike, eldenring etc. There are enough games wich are played years after release
It's not "Short attention span" the reason, but lack of content to keep that attention or/and messed up support.
Helldivers 2 went through 3 controversies, was and still is in a poor state, locked out from most countries even today. It's content got too repetetive after reaching lvl 20-30 with no new unlockables or change in gameplay.
Palworld went the same way without controversy. It's a funny sandbox, but content is pretty shallow despite being wide.
Early access pretty much always lead to this, as games get released mostly barebones.
Exactly. You can’t sustain yourself off gimmicks.
Not true. The problem is that the game itself doesn't reward your time. Why should I devote my attention to a game that doesn't reward it? BattleBit also has massive balance and identity issues. So many guns and the meta is dominated by 3 of them. Movement is also way too fast and crazy compared to the rest of the game, vehicles are in a very awkward spot, class balance is terrible.
Meanwhile, Helldivers is now making a comeback because the quality of the updates is massively improving. People didn't leave Helldivers because they have short attention spans, they left because the developers continued to make the game worse and less fun over time, not to mention that HD2 also has a very weak endgame, the sample grind is not exciting or engaging at all.
There's also the aspect of player count explosions. If you thought there was ANY way that HD2 would retain its 480,000 concurrent player peak, you don't actually understand how player counts flow. Player counts spike massively when games launch or get large updates because all of the dedicated players get on at roughly the same time, and play it more than usual, and then after some time people stop marathoning the game and start playing it on a more normal, spread-out schedule, so the amount of people playing at once goes down, even if no one quits the game. Helldivers didn't "die" because the player count didn't stay at 480k. Palworld likewise has always held a healthy player count.
So many people say they want something different, then you give them the power to make that difference and find out that what they wanted all along, was the exact same thing.
sucks that you ditched planetside for this...
Planetside is dead. Sad but true.
@@NickyDekker89 Sure if you say so.
He "ditched" Planetside just for something else than Planetside, as I understand and that's just how it is sometimes. It's perfectly fine to be tired of a game, to want to move on to other stuff - I did as well, with all my time in Planetside I felt like I have gotten what I wanted out of this game, and now I moved on to other experiences.
Besides, let's also be honest, there's not much future left in sight for Planetside. The game has remained quite stale for some time, and I have little faith that the newest studio in charge will be *able* to do much to really give this game a renaissance.
But don't get me wrong, there is no spite or salt in my words - that is just how things go. Nothing can last forever, and Planetside will have to go at some point. And recognizing that a game is on its way out while also enjoying it isn't incompatible, nor wrong.
in my very narrow view, people constantly compared this game to call of duty and played it like call of duty. like the game is clearly a squad-battlefield hybrid but everyone wanted it to be a movement shooter with weird time to kill and the devs were swayed in that direction as well, but never enough to satiate the cod crowd. now theyve just gone back to call of duty and the game is left without an identity.😊
you are half right about the community servers. there are NO OFFICIAL SERVER for asia server at the time before community servers are allowed, all people wanting to play from asia suffers from 100+ ping in a extremely fast TTK shooter. after community servers dropped, there's only 2 main Asia server, and both of them using official progression with no custom ruleset bringing the authentic battlebit experience.
even currently nowadays asia only have 1 server with consistent 250 player during peak times which allows the full battlebit experience for Asia players, if the community servers were not dropped back then, i don't think the current server will even have any players these days
I loved playing it and still love to play it from time to time. It's not my main game but I still enjoy it a lot
Like what I have said. A small dev team like this not hiring more ppl to help is destined to lose players and die off. If they had a bigger team then battlebit might have lived on longer and picked the right opponent. People are idiotically just pointing it as the battlefield killer and they even did the bf4 art style to show their goal which in the end failed horribly. They barely exceed 2k players now on steam and somehow 2042 an objectively "worse" game mentioned by the community is outperforming them. Why? because apparently picking a triple A studio as a indie studio with barely anyone isn't a smart option to be exact. Also they needed a bigger team to actually push out update.
I haven't played the game in a while, but I did really enjoy it. I really hope they come back swinging, because this game deserves it.