Dark gets CONFUSED by 40+ Archons! (StarCraft 2)
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2023
- Professional match of StarCraft 2 between ShoWTimE and Dark where the German Protoss decides to go for Mass Archons in the late game. Rather than focusing on a Sky Toss based army he decides to face off against the Zerg mid game army without making that transition towards the conventional Carrier based army.
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At 30:15 Dark loses 17 (117 to 100) supply in an instant. I think that a devastating disruptor hit during the battle on the left side (not pictured) is what prompts him to gg.
yeah. with Showtime constantly harassing that right side base a disruptor hit is going to come eventually.
watching the red pixels just vanish with 16 supply looks pretty funny
so... do we call that army the blue ball?
Yes
That's why you need to finish things early sometimes. Remember kids, quickies were invented for a reason 😂
Used to be called the White ball though.
Blue balls xD
Yes
Once protoss meld into an archon they retain their old memories. If one of the melding protoss is much stronger than the other the stronger one can dominate the archon. The drawback of becoming an archon is that they burn through their own life energy to gain that increase in power. I don't remember if it was in LotV campaign or one of the sc2 books but there exists a dark archon made up of at least seven different protoss. He basically kept usurping more dark protoss and I believe consuming terrazine in order to not run out of life energy.
yep, if I recall correctly that dark archon was named Ulrezaj, and he hated the protoss from Aiur that exiled the dark templar with a burning passion. Normal two-templar archon is relatively unstable - Ulrezaj fused himself with seven or eight other dark templar and became a being of (literal) burning rage (the archon is called Ulrezaj too, since templar Ulrezaj is its strongest part). Ulrezaj then gathered some followers and when refugees from Aiur came to Shakuras after Aiur fell, they hunted and killed them for revenge until they were defeated by Zeratul (i think).
@@bb7344ulrezaj was trying to kill a preserver and that preserver locked him in some kind of rare crystal but he's still alive.
Most templars do not retain their sense of self, when they meld into an archon. Ulrezaj is quite a bit of an outliner in many ways, including the number of protoss he consumed.
Watching at dinner with the auto-generated subtitles. They come up with some doozies trying to figure out a jargon heavy video game from 2010 cast in a Dutch accent, but I think the Oracle's "Stacy's board" ability is my new favorite.
6:49 "The fact that two dudes can merge together like that and become one big, you know, glowy ball; that's pretty sick" - StarCraft II Review by LowkoTV
the pro players are so close even after a 30mins game, they have almost matching supply the whole game, that's insane !!!
I love that LingBane is used to describe an army consisting of zerglings and bane...lings...
)))well, zerglings called lings in short (obviously, if u try to use instead the 1st half "zerg" then its not going to do the job). And for the rest of the castita ont the contrary, only the first half is descriptive ( hydra(lysk), muta(lisk), etc). So when you want to shorten "ZerglingBaneling" it becomes "(zerg)LingBane(ling)".
Yeah, its quite funny ))
hahaahha "It is like Showtime were playing with his food, but his food is an aligator" Lowko (2023)
I love seeing novas send ravagers to the clouds
love the squishy splashy meaty zearg obliteration gore 🥰
That comment about playing with your food but this case your food is an alligator doing death roll really have me laughing.
Love your commentary. For us normies watching, the way you explain the tactics helps understand what happens really. Makes it more interesting
12:22 i can't even watch both fights at once accurately, and these guys are controlling it!!! Amazing to watch
German efficiency is commendable.. except for that one time.
To be fair, thats the one time they were inefficient.. Wunderwaffe come to mind 😂
No one noticed the spawning pool bleed out, even Dark!
15:05
One of the scrapped units from early development for SC2 was Twilight Archons which probably could only be made from a HT and DT merging. Makes me wonder how different they would have been from regular archons.
the zerg get a massive distruptor hit at the very end anyway :)
That 'Economy / Tech / Army' info you show at 08:23 seems really nice, would love to see you use that one a bit more often.
Yeah! I had never seen that before. I found it interesting how the different races used their money in different ways to make the same total amount of army basically.
15:12 "we seldom see it" works.
That rant about American response to christmas cards is so true haha. Love all the random tangents you go on lol
I‘ve been struggling with late game PvZ a lot lately. As a Protoss, I know. Let’s see if this is an idea
I think protos mech is the future of protoss late game. Warp prisms to stop them from running circles around you and skytal as your main fighting force.
Can we just appreciate how awesome all the replays overlays are now.
"splitting zerg army in 2 pieces" like this is usually called "surround by zerg" . But with this archon Mauer it is just splitting the army indeed. 😅
"hardly ever" not "nearly never" is the phrase you are looking for Lowko! Honestly though, "nearly never" is grammatically correct and is actually very funny! It's the sort of turn of phrase I'd expect in comedy dialogue
Lowko I appreciate how high quality the video is in all your casts. Whatever you're doing it's noticeably better than other SC2 youtubers.
I really like how showtime is managing this different style of protoss that allows him to avoid falling into that PvZ endgame feeling where the protoss feels like they are trying to defend Aiur from the Zerg.
Archons are my favorite, too! But I never even thought of the shared memories!
new trinking game: take a shot everytime lowko says: lovely work
Lowko, do you ever consider doing like a google survey to collect addresses and leaving a space for any comments or messages for your Christmas cards? It would put all your data into a spreadsheet too!
Both sides were real savage like.
Read that as Dark Archons and got excited
I love seeing games like this. Protoss rolling up with like 10 big dudes against an army of 100 little Zerg units just feels right to me.
13:40 really nice control by Showtime in this engagement
Great intro as always
😱🤯😱
Mind blown
Truly............Power Overwhelming
It's like the Protos invasion today in the SC2 corner of UA-cam, I love it
i think the advantage of sending out the probe is that it gets the zerglings away from your mineral lines. you have one probe running around trying to stay alive, eating time the zerglings spend away from the working bases. though this is just a guess.
Yes the archons do share their memories. In one of the SrarCraft books there is a story about it.
Man I love hearing those Terran country jams during a PvZ
A German student once asked me: "How many Germans does it take to change a light bulb?"
He then said: "One. We are boring and efficient"
But the procurement needs to be approved by half a dozen others first, plus the work needs to be overseen by a HSI!
8:16
[medication kicks in] You know...They're all connected through the Kala until they sever themselves in SC2 like the Dark Templar. Templar probably see it as becoming a manifestation of the Kala's unity in the physical world by sacrificing each self to form a greater self. Not sure of dark templar motivations for Dark Archons. Dark sects can be power hungry, so maybe two DTs agree that they hate each other the least and they've both peaked, so why not go Archon and achieve greater heights of power?
23:13 I can't believe Lowko didn't say "investor of Infestors"
lowko do you plan on making some more highlights? love them
Fantastic game!
Yes Mijnher, we love our Spreadsheets, and Numpads 💯
@LowkoTV I remember way back when you started to play and show us City Skylines (it was not a dream right?). So I was wondering, do you aim to be playing the upcoming City Skylines 2 as well that will be released in October? I think you were the actual reason to why I gave the earlier game a try and enjoyed so many hours of it!
Just an aside, why "nearly never" probably sounded so wrong is it feels similar to a double negative which is incorrect in English, though it is in fact not. The other alternative than the one you chose that was closer imho is "we rarely ever".
"We almost never see" would be acceptable as well, although "we rarely ever see" does sound better.
Is the spending tab at 10:10 part of GameHeart or the like? Do we know what counts as what?
From Archon toilets to Archon floods.
Mitarchondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
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isn't it a pre broodlord timing, to test the waters and see the units?
I think dark gg because he eat a disruptor shot in the 7 o'clock. The supply dropped abruptly in the last moment.
I totally expected you to go into Smooth Operator there around 5:00.
AMAZING game!
"Almost never see it" sounds a lot more natural than "nearly never see it."
Yes, dont see it very often, virtually never see it, almost never, etc., but "nearly never see it" sounds a lot more like actual American.
@@SD-jf7nb fair.
"You Germans love your num pads" Well, you got me with this one. But not with the spreadsheets :D
I have german ancestory, and i definitely have a spreadsheet for anything i can make an excuse to make a spreadsheet for.
I was thinking while watching the mass archons, if Dark had simply used a few infestors, maybe he could have hit them with some fungal casts and biled them down.
little known fun fact that maybe even lowko didn't know:
Showtime is also called "Die Mauer" which is translated to "the wall" from german
He knows.
@@SomeUnsoberIdiothe only says it every time he casts showtime lol whoosh
11:00 the trigger would be Dark not attacking. ShowTime has an army to counter Dark's current army. If Dark changes a follow up, the best place to be to know what the follow up will be, is to be in Dark's face. So: ShowTime has the counter army and wants to know Dark's next move, or force a continuation of Dark's current army composition. It's all there ... imo
Throwtime intensifies
Showtime is playing with his food :)
I'd love to see a match between Showtime and Spirit 😂
No way it’s the blue man group
What is this, like, the 15th casted Dark loss in a row? 😢
23:20 I can't belive you didnt use the joke. You can infest into investors
Lowko you mentioned how Zeratul wouldn’t have been able to done much to assist at one point in the video. Do you think heroes could be a cool addition to SC2 PvP? (Similar to Warcraft mechanic) I’m not sure if you have ever expressed your thoughts about this topic.
Heroes would require sc2 being remade into completly different game in the gameplay aspect.
But some more units like mothership ( hard limited in number as opposed to supply limited) might be an "addition"
17:42 = epic
Hardly ever, rarely, scarcely, seldom see it
I think when you said "we nearly never see it," you were thinking of the common wording, "rarely ever." We rarely ever see it.
Even for those merely with German surnames, efficiency is a compliment.
This game is so sick without ghosts in it....
I like how ShoWTimE never made ground armor lmao
22:14
I'm surprised that the infestation pit isn't bleeding out, it's technically still on creep, the corner is apparently?
🤔
27:00
I wouldn't call that Zeratul, I'd call that DT wanna-be Vorazun, it does have her weapon.
27:24
What's a Archul, Lowko? ;)
An archul is obviously the new toss unit made by merging two oracles. Did you not read the patch notes?
yeap, at least 3 squares of infestation pit are on creep
Archcool )
Legacy of the Balls
Archons deal bonus damage Vs bio soooo... I guess they counter the whole zerg race? 🤷
Technically, but they can be overwhelmed with numbers, isolated with vipers, outgunned by ultras or just stopped by lurkers or broodlords (these ones in particular can just pick them apart from a distance). Ravager biles plus fungal growth can go a long way too.
The limitation is that they're expensive, have short range, and take up a lot of space so it's harder to get things where you want them to be.
Spreadsheets are great. Everyone should know how to use them and appreciate their use.
I suspect you're german ... ? 😅
why not just one or two voids to force Queens? I'm not good, can someone explain?
Zera was my fav hero in sotis!
21:12 "not even Zeratul would have been able to achive much there" yes, mostly becouse he's dead...
I'm no expert but it seems like a couple of colossi would have gone a very long way with that archon ball.
Lowko, why cant hi-lvl protoss spare a few apm to add a few Sentries imamomg the Disruptors? Sentries can wall off enemy units while disruptor is immobile
Because 3 Sentries costs the same as 2 Distruptors which are always more useful. Ravagers can just break FF then Zerg a-moves & wins because Toss army is so much weaker.
Concerning your story about germans and christmas cards and lack of any words except the adress, I am quite sure they do not do this because of wanting to be efficient, its about small talk with strangers being a foreign concept to us. People feel the same urge that leads the US american viewers to leave these more elaborate messages, but they are not familiar or uncomfortable expressing it, which is why they just exclude it. Its also weird or not normal to chat up strangers here, so they might feel weird or inadequate since they do not know you personally, and keep it professional and direct, since they are unfamiliar with anything else.
They were really efficient...
Protoss is in a sorry state. Zealot, Stalker, Disrupter, Oracle, Archon, Dark Templar, going to tier 3 on 2 different tech paths, just to match zerg on tier 1.5 ling, bane, roach, ravager, even after protoss kills 20 drones early game.
If you are just going to morph them into Archons immediately, is it better to warp in Dark Templar or High Templar? I thought most people used High Templar, but ShoWTimE used DT's in this game. Was just curious.
depends if u have too many minerals or gas. Late game u usually have a mineral bank HT archons 100min 300gas DT archons 250/250
I confuse about that, too.
Dt archons are more expensive overall, but the cost 50 less gas while consuming 150 more minerals. So depends on the circumstances.
Lowko shows units lost at 23:20 and we can see how much more gas Showtime lost so limiting factor for his army in this intance would be gas. If you see him open tab later do tell.
It mostly depends in the unit you wanna rely on before you make archons (most players try to get some value out o it, befor morphing it). If you want psi storm to defeat masses of bio, or you want to harass with dt´s.
Haha ye, no Smalltalk in Germany especially not in an Email.
German efficiency :D loled
20 min high templar i thing is his answer to darks sudden acressive harassing few defensive storms are really good for it. High templars are soo slow. Not really so good for attack with warp prism yes but try walk them. Two storms and HT's are gone surrounded by zerk. No use to spend resources to storms untill y seem to need one.
Ik kijk de video’s niet in volgorde, maar valt me nu opeens voor het eerst op dat er kijkwijzer iconen rechtsboven staan aan het begin van de video, en dat het ook bij de video’s hierna en voor is 🙈
Just a little remark to Lowkos repeated 22 banelings per archon.
Usually banelings boom on more than 1 archon. I think its fair to expect 22 banes will kill 2 archons in average, making the trade much less terrible.
As a german ich can only say: " Don't play the offended liver sausage"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And if you think that germans handle everything efectiv you never traveled with the „Deutschen Bahn“ 😂😂😂
I feel like every zerg cast I've seen in the last month is only ever Dark or Serral. Did all the others retire?
Only Dark, Raynor and Serral are insane enough to even get to finals of big events now. Zerg just ain't got it like they used to. The biggest reason Zerg is in the dumpster trophy wise is because Serral being the best of all time just can't be given a fair unit comp or he'd never get touched. Kind of like Byun in his big moment forcing anti-Terran patches.
2:20 maybe I think excel is the best program ever. just maybe
Germans would definitly create an auto reply for your christmas message, atleast I would :D
nearly never = rarely
I love my spreadsheets too!!!!!! :)
Archons are the epitome of gayness. Two men merging and becoming radiant burst blue ball. Lover overwhelming!
Love the German and American comparisons😂
I guess i used to be an american communcator then a class i took in college made me more of a german communicator😂 now i can stand unnecessary fluff in conversation.
Except i commented on here so obviously still partly american