In this context, Frank was speaking on 4 different topics over an 8 hour day of lectures at our Project 3:15 Conference. Unfortunately, time constraints were a must!
I’m sorry but something is not created out of nothing. All things come from an idea a thought or a want so us being created out of nothing makes no sense to me for God had to first want us in order to create us.
"You believe that God is one. Good for you. The devil also believes and tremble. " James 2:19. You see friend, it's not ultimately about "believing in God" that gets you saved. It's placing your trust in Him through Jesus Christ. And one last thing, you will never believe in something you don't want to no matter how much evidence is given to you. Only those who really "seek" end up finding. So may God have mercy on you and soften your heart.
1:22 "it's wrong to torture babies FOR FUN". Haven't you wondered why apologists are compelled to add those last two words? It's because the Christian God doesn't hesitate to torture all kinds of people, including children. But if they add the qualifier "for fun", they think they can sneak past us. Pitiful reasoning.
@@CloudsStrife1 @CloudsStrife1 Noah's flood in Genesis would have drowned many, many children, some of whom would certainly have been old enough to grasp their fate , and to beseech God to have mercy. The plague brought upon Egypt in Exodus would also presumably have caused massive suffering to children. He is also said to have ordered the killing of entire Canaanite families, along with other non-Hebrews. These situations would necessarily have included unimaginable suffering for the children involved, before they themselves were killed. The OT god embraces the act of killing, because his character is a reflection of the values of the people at that time.
Moral argument is silly. Theists argue that a god who condones slavery, commands and commits genocide, promotes misogyny and even accepts child sacrifice is the source of absolute universal morality. Funny to watch themselves tie themselves in knots to make it work. They end up saying that god's genocide is moral, rendering morality relative to god's actions - as subjective as it gets. Silly theists.
If he did not allow it we would not have our own choice on how to behave on earth. We all would either be doing all good. Or we all would be doing all bad. Which essenitally means we all would not believe in god. Or we all would believe in god. And since we have no choice in that decision if he takes away freewill, what is the point of making mindless robotic flesh beings that just do his will automatically? Are you saying you want to be chsnged systematically so that you can not get mad at someone for talking smack about your mother? Do you want your brain to be on autopilot where there is just no feelings whatsoever? Make it make sense. Your athiest arguments are easily destroyable.
@@WheresWaldo05 so tell me did the billions of persons who never heard of Christ and died end up in hell? Seems that way if the ONLY path to salvation is Christ. What "choice" did they have. My brain is not on autopilot. I chose to question my decades long belief, thinking if it is true it would withstand scrutiny. It did not and I could no longer believe. Are you honest enough to question it? How is genocide moral when god does it? How does an all powerful, all knowing all loving god creating a world in which he must know that man would fall and billions would be condemned to eternal torment make sense. Make it make sense.
If christianity is true then your argument would fail because God is above the law:- He is the law giver. He is not bound by that law:- say for example in the judiciary system in many jurisdictions, a lower court's decision cannot bind a court that is higher in hierarchy. That is the rationale for appealing a decision of a lower court to a higher court. 2nd, If Christianity is true and God is who He says He is, then He can restore life and He owns us since we are His creation, now property law is usually framed in such a manner that the owner has a right to deal with His/her property as He so pleases. It may be a little rude of you tell an artist, "how dare you destroy that piece of Art!" when you don't even know what plans He has in store with that piece.
@@muthonimwangi2827 that does nothing to counter my argument. If god is above the law, he is still the lawgiver and since his laws state killing is wrong and yet he commands and commits genocide, then his laws are arbitrary and subjective. So, he is not a source of absolute morals. My argument is even stronger of christianity is true. You can't just special plead that god has some status that puts him beyond logic.
Yes and Amen!
turned on subtitles, great job
YES! OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, our God IS supremely awesome!
Why does frank always say we don't have the time to cover all this. Is he on some kind of time constraint during his lectures.
In this context, Frank was speaking on 4 different topics over an 8 hour day of lectures at our Project 3:15 Conference. Unfortunately, time constraints were a must!
Yes.
@@MainStreetChurchChilliwackWhere is this held?
@@rondabottos7622 Our Project 3:15 Conference is held at our church in Chilliwack, BC, Canada every February.
@@MainStreetChurchChilliwack Very cool. Thank you for telling me. Your people seem good there.
I’m sorry but something is not created out of nothing. All things come from an idea a thought or a want so us being created out of nothing makes no sense to me for God had to first want us in order to create us.
No physicist or knowledgable atheist claims the universe came from nothing. The Big Bang doesn't make that claim either. Typical theist strawman.
I don't have enough faith to believe in God.
Give me one good reason and let's talk about it.
You can't handle the truth . You demonstrate that by your comment. Covid19 is a biblical plague.
You don't have to believe in God while you are alive, but the moment you die, you will believe.
@@grannynaumann7165 How can you believe if the brain is no longer functioning? Belief is a process of the mind. How does this logically work?
"You believe that God is one. Good for you. The devil also believes and tremble. " James 2:19. You see friend, it's not ultimately about "believing in God" that gets you saved. It's placing your trust in Him through Jesus Christ. And one last thing, you will never believe in something you don't want to no matter how much evidence is given to you. Only those who really "seek" end up finding. So may God have mercy on you and soften your heart.
@@j.peaceo1031 How do I place my trust in Him? Tell me the steps.
Get real God is alive and well but hes getting a little pissed .
There are thousands of gods, all of them curiously invisible.
@@TonyEnglandUKThere's only one God and his name is Christ
@@TonyEnglandUKgame designers are not inside the game
@@RandomVideos-kn3pf I don't "do" religio-babble. Facts.
@@kapitan19969838 Then prove it with evidence. Show everyone the evidence you have that proves what you just said.
You cant prove god is real
You also can’t prove he isn’t
Idk I just let people believe what they want, as long as their happy and not hurting anyone
You can't prove ANYTHING
But, You can follow the evidence. And the evidence leads to God being real.
@@kapitan19969838 So post it then it's not just a claim but a fact.
1:22 "it's wrong to torture babies FOR FUN". Haven't you wondered why apologists are compelled to add those last two words? It's because the Christian God doesn't hesitate to torture all kinds of people, including children. But if they add the qualifier "for fun", they think they can sneak past us. Pitiful reasoning.
@@drumrnva Could you please provide the scenario in which this occurred? What was the context of this torture?
@@CloudsStrife1 @CloudsStrife1 Noah's flood in Genesis would have drowned many, many children, some of whom would certainly have been old enough to grasp their fate , and to beseech God to have mercy. The plague brought upon Egypt in Exodus would also presumably have caused massive suffering to children. He is also said to have ordered the killing of entire Canaanite families, along with other non-Hebrews. These situations would necessarily have included unimaginable suffering for the children involved, before they themselves were killed. The OT god embraces the act of killing, because his character is a reflection of the values of the people at that time.
"Nothing is what rocks dream about"
NOT Aristotle !
A funny meme, but is not true ...
Yes, Turek got the quote from Zacharias who thought it was Aristotle ... The quotation originates with Jonathan Edwards from his essay "On Being."
@@ConsiderJAH
Good to know , Thanks !
Moral argument is silly. Theists argue that a god who condones slavery, commands and commits genocide, promotes misogyny and even accepts child sacrifice is the source of absolute universal morality. Funny to watch themselves tie themselves in knots to make it work. They end up saying that god's genocide is moral, rendering morality relative to god's actions - as subjective as it gets. Silly theists.
If he did not allow it we would not have our own choice on how to behave on earth. We all would either be doing all good. Or we all would be doing all bad. Which essenitally means we all would not believe in god. Or we all would believe in god. And since we have no choice in that decision if he takes away freewill, what is the point of making mindless robotic flesh beings that just do his will automatically? Are you saying you want to be chsnged systematically so that you can not get mad at someone for talking smack about your mother? Do you want your brain to be on autopilot where there is just no feelings whatsoever?
Make it make sense. Your athiest arguments are easily destroyable.
@@WheresWaldo05 so tell me did the billions of persons who never heard of Christ and died end up in hell? Seems that way if the ONLY path to salvation is Christ. What "choice" did they have.
My brain is not on autopilot. I chose to question my decades long belief, thinking if it is true it would withstand scrutiny. It did not and I could no longer believe. Are you honest enough to question it?
How is genocide moral when god does it?
How does an all powerful, all knowing all loving god creating a world in which he must know that man would fall and billions would be condemned to eternal torment make sense. Make it make sense.
@@WheresWaldo05 so my choice is believe or be eternally tortured. That's coercion, not free choice. The abusive heavenly father.
If christianity is true then your argument would fail because God is above the law:- He is the law giver. He is not bound by that law:- say for example in the judiciary system in many jurisdictions, a lower court's decision cannot bind a court that is higher in hierarchy. That is the rationale for appealing a decision of a lower court to a higher court.
2nd, If Christianity is true and God is who He says He is, then He can restore life and He owns us since we are His creation, now property law is usually framed in such a manner that the owner has a right to deal with His/her property as He so pleases. It may be a little rude of you tell an artist, "how dare you destroy that piece of Art!" when you don't even know what plans He has in store with that piece.
@@muthonimwangi2827 that does nothing to counter my argument. If god is above the law, he is still the lawgiver and since his laws state killing is wrong and yet he commands and commits genocide, then his laws are arbitrary and subjective. So, he is not a source of absolute morals.
My argument is even stronger of christianity is true. You can't just special plead that god has some status that puts him beyond logic.
Colbert is a waste of time
I'd say Krauss was/is.
But he was still funny as shiznit.