You guys need some army surplus tracked vehicles! Now that would be fun, except for the gas bill from a tank's engine!! Love your content Jack. To live effectively in the outback, one has to be very familiar with all sorts of heavy diesel vehicles and tow recovery skills!
If you had to regularly cross soft ground. Might have to trailer out a Hagglunds or Sno-Cat. Tatra trucks, WA have 8x8 trucks that might still sink. I have seen a very old small Morooka fixed deck with rubber tracks (dump tip body removed) used as a small farm vehicle. (Komatsu etc also have their own tracked small dumpers) High end, are the Prinoth Panthers used for new motorway construction etc, some uility project examples have palfinger cranes. Lightweight compact track loader (CTL) might cross the soft ground too.
The old man needs the sack. You even counted him down and yet still never had the wheels turning as the tension came on. You were literally pulling a dead weight in gear. Take charge Pongo.
They have the same pulling force whether they pull on a tight strap or back up and hit the strap! What the difference is, when you take a run at it you build up kinetic energy to apply two or three times the force of just pulling. Plus there is the suction of the heavy vehicle settled down on wet material that must be broken before it will move.
Well Jack, all the experts have given their opinions in the comments, but they have no idea of the outback mud. One thing I did notice is that the mack has road wheels on it. That's no good in a boggy scenario. Do you use it on the road mate, or just off road on the property? If it's just for property, you might try to find a set of good off road tyres. Eg: Army style mud tyres, like we used to have on the 6x6 ACCOs. Worth watching, and glad you got that piece of yank crap out of the bog.
Out of curiosity why was the mack not in diff lock and spinning all 10 wheels when you launch each time? It would help float you up onto the surface. Those trucks have quite a decent amount of torque.
@@peterwebb8732 it does if you don't get going yes, but first it would have shown that diff locks were engaged. and second on sand a small amount of digging is required to expand your traction.
@@peterwebb8732 alot of sand in that clay, but sure. as for the other, they are a few tire designs that seem to disagree. ever seen a sand rail? or paddle tires? they dig into the sand to grab more traction. even cheap and nasty tractor tires have sideway rubber tread to dig into the ground. i am not suggesting you dump your clutch, but to help the tow vehicle you want all wheels turning. clawing at the ground before them.
@ Are you differentiating between “spinning” tyres, and applying drive to them? A wheel sunken into sand (or soft mud or snow) has a hump in front of it, up which it must climb to lift the vehicle out. It can’t climb this hump because it has too little traction. It is only when the towing vehicle pulls the tyres forward, hard against that hump (I’m looking for a better word, but you get my meaning) that the drive wheels on the towed vehicle get any traction up that hump. There is no point in applying drive to the wheels on the towed vehicle until there is tension on the tow-cable or snatch-strap. Timing is key. And yes, I’m very familiar with tractor-tread tyres and recovering bogged machinery fitted with them. They will dig you down until you are bellied, very, very quickly indeed.
There’s an outfit here in the states that makes very good kinetic recovery ropes and straps Yank em Ropes might be better? What depth does the water have when it’s flooding , how long till it dries out
Add two extra wheels to the front and the result would have been different. It stops the front wheels digging in because of the weight on the front axle.
Hi Jack, when was this with all the wet? I see on the weather report to night it looks like you have a lot of rain on the way in the next few days. Well done getting it out.
Who ever that is driving the grader hasn’t got a clue how to pull a stuck vehicle! He could have had that truck out the first pull, but instead he stopped pulling. The truck was still moving back when the grader stopped pulling, you can see the slack in the strap, than when the truck stopped moving, grader hit ropes end and stops completely! The second good pull when he backs right up finally, he does the same again, hits the rope than slows down (the strap goes slack again) than hits it again AFTER the truck stops moving. I’m a grader operator in the Canadian oil patch and I have lost count of the number of times I’ve had to pull stuck units out of mud holes, up out of deep ditches and out of creeks and ravine. What you need to understand is that starting a motionless object moving is the hardest part, that’s why you back up and HIT the end of the strap, the momentum built up starts the object moving, after that the trick is to keep the object moving using torque and traction. If the strap goes slack you are not helping at all, this guy obviously does not understand this basic principle.
You guys need some army surplus tracked vehicles! Now that would be fun, except for the gas bill from a tank's engine!! Love your content Jack. To live effectively in the outback, one has to be very familiar with all sorts of heavy diesel vehicles and tow recovery skills!
That's a hell of a snatch strap!
Not sure what is more of a pain, getting struck or the flies...however you got yourself out but still have the flies. Well done
glad to see all's going well over there in the wild west mate
If you had to regularly cross soft ground. Might have to trailer out a Hagglunds or Sno-Cat. Tatra trucks, WA have 8x8 trucks that might still sink. I have seen a very old small Morooka fixed deck with rubber tracks (dump tip body removed) used as a small farm vehicle. (Komatsu etc also have their own tracked small dumpers) High end, are the Prinoth Panthers used for new motorway construction etc, some uility project examples have palfinger cranes. Lightweight compact track loader (CTL) might cross the soft ground too.
Great team work!
Anyone else feel that when full sending with a snatch strap it’s basically car bungee jumping.
A little bit of Diesel Brothers down under! Nice work!
The old man needs the sack. You even counted him down and yet still never had the wheels turning as the tension came on. You were literally pulling a dead weight in gear. Take charge Pongo.
I noticed that too. It's no wonder he was taking so long. Would have had him out in half the time if there was drive on the 6x6
Love your work guys
I think a new recovery rope is in order, the truck might need some super singles at low pressure too.
boy's big toys - you would never think that the ground was like that ?
The flys are crazy always.
Calle the Aussie wave lol
Lot more rain coming your way this week Jack according the weather watch tv.😮.
Great teamwork though.
Cheers Tony Brisbane
Down under strange idea of fun? Good on ya for getting it out!!! Challenge accepted and conquered!😊
First time I’ve see someone using a tug’em as intended. See too many just draw them tight then pull. Can’t get the force to pull that way.
They have the same pulling force whether they pull on a tight strap or back up and hit the strap! What the difference is, when you take a run at it you build up kinetic energy to apply two or three times the force of just pulling. Plus there is the suction of the heavy vehicle settled down on wet material that must be broken before it will move.
Never even got the rear wheels spinning!
Spinning the wheels often only digs you in.
Get a recovery strap that gives some kinetic energy
Well Jack, all the experts have given their opinions in the comments, but they have no idea of the outback mud. One thing I did notice is that the mack has road wheels on it. That's no good in a boggy scenario. Do you use it on the road mate, or just off road on the property? If it's just for property, you might try to find a set of good off road tyres. Eg: Army style mud tyres, like we used to have on the 6x6 ACCOs. Worth watching, and glad you got that piece of yank crap out of the bog.
That 12G is in great nick!!!!!
That's a carton for sure
Where has Danny got to? Haven't seen him for some time.
Pretty big snatch
Always in 6 wheel drive, so you are selecting low range. Put her in high with the lockers on. 😊
Out of curiosity why was the mack not in diff lock and spinning all 10 wheels when you launch each time? It would help float you up onto the surface. Those trucks have quite a decent amount of torque.
Spinning the wheels digs you in.
@@peterwebb8732 it does if you don't get going yes, but first it would have shown that diff locks were engaged. and second on sand a small amount of digging is required to expand your traction.
@ 1. They’re on clay.
2. On sand you drop tyre pressures to get traction. Spinning the wheels on sand is the last thing you want to do.
@@peterwebb8732 alot of sand in that clay, but sure. as for the other, they are a few tire designs that seem to disagree. ever seen a sand rail? or paddle tires? they dig into the sand to grab more traction. even cheap and nasty tractor tires have sideway rubber tread to dig into the ground.
i am not suggesting you dump your clutch, but to help the tow vehicle you want all wheels turning. clawing at the ground before them.
@ Are you differentiating between “spinning” tyres, and applying drive to them?
A wheel sunken into sand (or soft mud or snow) has a hump in front of it, up which it must climb to lift the vehicle out. It can’t climb this hump because it has too little traction. It is only when the towing vehicle pulls the tyres forward, hard against that hump (I’m looking for a better word, but you get my meaning) that the drive wheels on the towed vehicle get any traction up that hump. There is no point in applying drive to the wheels on the towed vehicle until there is tension on the tow-cable or snatch-strap. Timing is key.
And yes, I’m very familiar with tractor-tread tyres and recovering bogged machinery fitted with them. They will dig you down until you are bellied, very, very quickly indeed.
There’s an outfit here in the states that makes very good kinetic recovery ropes and straps Yank em Ropes might be better?
What depth does the water have when it’s flooding , how long till it dries out
That army 6x6 should have lockers may be get a driver that can use it as they are a weapon in the right hands
Nothing like getting bogged
Should get a good growing season
Not a lot of fun there but you’d have to happy with the amount of moisture in the ground over the station. How long ago was this ?
Maybe the Grader op needed a crash helmet in the full send mode. LOL
There's bogged then there's Army bogged.
Good video 👍
That’s one hell of a strap
Hundred-tonners are popular with the blokes running big headers and sowing rigs.
That snatch strap might be close to end of life now? Thanks for the video.
Why?
@@Oldmane-420 After a certain number of uses the strap becomes fatigued and no longer stretches. All snatch straps have a limited life.
Good job , it made ya work for it lol
Add two extra wheels to the front and the result would have been different. It stops the front wheels digging in because of the weight on the front axle.
How much rain have you had ?
Hi Jack, when was this with all the wet? I see on the weather report to night it looks like you have a lot of rain on the way in the next few days. Well done getting it out.
Where is Danny.
I think I seen a video awhile back of him saying his goodbyes and moving on to something different
thats nuts, is it stuck from rain or just sheer weight?
Both
Left-hand down on the truck would helped get out of the deep tracks
What happened to the Camel videos? Did you get them all already?
Get rid of the Mack and get an old Studebaker.
Better ask Alex or Josh from Pepe's Towing on YT how to do it properly and efficiently! But then everybody has an opinion...
Who ever that is driving the grader hasn’t got a clue how to pull a stuck vehicle! He could have had that truck out the first pull, but instead he stopped pulling. The truck was still moving back when the grader stopped pulling, you can see the slack in the strap, than when the truck stopped moving, grader hit ropes end and stops completely! The second good pull when he backs right up finally, he does the same again, hits the rope than slows down (the strap goes slack again) than hits it again AFTER the truck stops moving.
I’m a grader operator in the Canadian oil patch and I have lost count of the number of times I’ve had to pull stuck units out of mud holes, up out of deep ditches and out of creeks and ravine. What you need to understand is that starting a motionless object moving is the hardest part, that’s why you back up and HIT the end of the strap, the momentum built up starts the object moving, after that the trick is to keep the object moving using torque and traction. If the strap goes slack you are not helping at all, this guy obviously does not understand this basic principle.
Very poor content for you tube
go buy a farm and do better then
msg when you do
You need a Yankum rope Jack
I think he had a "snatchem" strap, that's what we call them anyway.