3 BEST pedal SETTING for Speed Power & control + tips!
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- In this video we see the best setting to achieve better speed, power and control with the pedal.
Those setting can be applied for every pedal, in this case is a Iron Cobra 900 Power Glide but I use the same on my DW 5000.
The three main setting are:
Lenght of the beater
Distance of the beater to the head, or the height of the foot borad
The tension of the spring
In this video we see how to set those 3 and also we will fix some common mistake.
Those tips are suitable for single pedal as well as single pedal!
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I been doing this for years! I'm so glad someone has done a video on this set up. Awesome video bud
Hey bro 1 year I was trying for this speed on my cobra and I've tryed many settings on it. And now after your video I FINALLY
GOT IT ! Thank you soooo much ! :)
The video title also says "control", but with a spring tension set at a maximum you actually have less control (or let's say: it's way more difficult to control the pedal). Sure, you can easily go super fast (esp with the Iron Cobra), but control & feeling don't benefit from it.
I personally find myself setting my spring more and more loose over the years, but still without making compromises in speed. Actually I can go very fast AND have a better feeling & control at the same time. But maybe that's just me...?! ;-)
The foot stopper thing: many players actually have their foot way too high on top of the pedal. The sweet spot is obviously a bit more down (a few centimeters above the middle I'd say). But again, there is no "ultimate truth" to this. Each drummer has other preferrences of course.
Music is no sports competition. Trust me & try it yourself. I don't post videos :-) @Clearblue Skys
Clearblue Skys actually most of the time people think „high spring tension -> fast“. Most metal drummers tell you something different. Like medium or higher spring tension but not max. With max tension you work more against the pedal than with the pedal. I changed to medium spring tension too because i couldnt play with the ankle technique.
Totally agree ,my settings( Iron Cobra powerglide twin) are just above minimum spring-tension, my beaters hit below the center of the bassdrum ( 24 inches). because there is a better rebounce at that point.
So true. Setting the spring to maximum tension would only make sense if the spring is old and has lost all of its tension. Otherwise, no way are you going to be able to play relaxed.
Dude this worked so well on my new DW9000s I struggled for a month trying to find good settings that matched my old pedals and this worked fantastically. I’m fast as fuck now lol
Thanks for this. I have a Iron Cobra pedal but with the Flexi Glide instead of the chain. I have been struggling to achieve single foot speed with it. I fear that I will struggle with stamina on maximum tension but will try it in my next rehearsal session. Thanks for making this video!
If slipknot made an album about maximum spring tension on a pedal, it would be called all control is gone
@@rupashankar8134 hooo we got a big boy over here
I agree Ben. I have trouble with high spring tension too.
Tried your spring tension tip and I am way faster and have all the control I ever wanted! Thanks for the tips man!
Brilliant. Thank you. You've really helped my setting up.
Woah you need more people to notice you, you're good! Informative, interesting, demonstrates it, and doesn't stall or talk slow af! Bravo! 👏
Thx for this Info. That helped me a lot! To do this things it makes a great difference to play. Couldn't believe it.
Yes thank you for making this video! I’m always talking to dudes who say that they need an expensive direct drive pedal to go super fast but in the end it’s how you set your pedal settings up
Thanks man I have these pedals and found your video very informative!!!!
It depends on what speed your looking to play. This tension would be best only for really extreme speeds... like over 250 bpm. You would have a really uncomfortable time playing any music other than extremely fast metal. You lose feel and all dynamic ability at such a high tension. But it is necessary if you're looking to play at the highest speeds possible.
Thank you for the information
Gonna try this right know. ^^ great video man!
fyi, the beater doesn't need to be extended so far if you have a heavy beater. Inertia involves mass as well as distance.
Thank u so much my pedal feels amazing now it really help my foot speed back before now I can do doubles easily wowwww
I can tell English is not your first language, but I think you have done very well with it, I am impressed. Thank you for the video.
nice explanation. there is a reason why leonardo was a beast at figuring out things...he was italian. like you and me. yeah..that's why I'm looking at yt videos to figure out things. lol
hey, you live..you learn. thx for the post, at any rate.
cool!! will try this! thanks gratie🖖
wow! this is so usefull! thanks man
Love it thank you!!
Great! I will try this...
🤘🏽thanks for the advice man!
I’m using the speed cobra btw
Great job bro
I'm starting to be able play stuff like Fleshgod Apocalypse's songs with a regular Iron Cobra so yeah it IS possible to go very fast. I'm using mostly the swivel motion myself but I've seen other drummers use heel toe very decently too with the same pedal tho most people seem to recommend using long board models for optimal results with heel toe. Guess I'm gonna have to try out a few models before deciding if I go with long board or not... or just get a Demon Drive from pearl that can be switched between both settings in a few minutes. Thanks for the video, looks like my current settings were good after all.
Thank you man
Thanks man makes sense.
Good vid bro.
Thanx!!!
Very helpful
Some double bass drum pedals have a third spring? I like the the two spring systems way better.
Ciao meraviglioso ragazzo, molto interessante la costituzione di questo strumento. Ne prendo appunti per la musica.❤️🥰😍😘
thank u
I have a double DW4000 and I have really struggled with the settings, it just feels slow and heavy. I can't really go as fast as I want on it. I will try these tips when I get to it, it think it can help. Thanks!
does it works?? i have the same issue, im usin a DW3000
I dont mean to down talk on DWs but I had the same issue with them. It hindered my growth for many years. Then I moved to Iron Cobras, it was so much better but still didnt sit well with me. However, tama speed cobras did it for me. It feels like an extension of my body. I would suggest changing into better pedals! Thanks!
@@enayetkhan9397
Have you tried the DW 5000 or 9000? How do you rate them against the Tama speed cobras ?
I’m using the standard Mapex pedal that came with my kit and looking into upgrading. I’ve only heard of the DW 5000 being a good pedal, but haven’t tested it for myself.
The tama speed cobra pedal you mentioned has peaked my interest.
@@RexyFan I just played the dw9000 at guitar center yesterday, they are good but i still prefer the speed cobras! Much smoother and controlled!
@@RexyFanive used both, speedcobra and iron cobra destroys dw
Thank you so much for the video. It's very helpful. I have a question that I hope you can help me with. I bury my beater and when my spring is tight, my pedal sometimes makes unwanted hits when I bury the beater. I hope you know what I mean. I hit the bass drum, and then because the tension is high, the pedal has an extra unwanted hit. How do I avoid that?
Hi, in my channel there is a video, if u apply these concepts you can fix not only that
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Hmmm. I spent years thinking maximum spring tension was better. Watched a Rob Brown video where he said to loosen the tension up. Tried it, set it more than 75% loose, and boom. Instantly more power and control. Sorry, but my experience says that maximum tension yields minimum control and much less power.
I like your hair. Its a great video too, thanks!
Fantastico
Does this work for speed cobras ?
Ciao Bernardo, io uso un'impostazione media, cioè la lunghezza del battente non è al massimo ma lascio sempre 1 cm di asta che sbuca sotto la vite che la stringe, le molle sono tirate a metà e l'inclinazione invece è a 45°. Ho provato a stringere le molle e alzare l'asta del battente ma ho problemi di controllo su alcuni groove dove ci sono un sacco di doppi colpi. Mentre invece la tecnica dello swivel, che mi farebbe molto comodo, non riesco ancora a farla mia, nonostante mi alleni continuamente.
Enrico Vanni ci vuole tempo! Grazie per il commento! Assicurati di vedere anche la versione in italiano si questo video! C'è una copia sul canale dai un occhio!
Vabbe ho visto questo qui, anche se è in inglese non ci sono problemi. Più che pratica a me piacere provare anche qualcosa di diverso, rispetto alla doppia catena, quando venni a Grosseto a provare l'axis di Derek, mi lasciò completamente spiazzato come risposta. Molta gente mi dice che l'eliminator che uso io, è uno dei pedali più duri esistenti, sinceramente non ho potuto appurare quest'affermazione provando altri modelli.
Thaaank you…
Hi 👋 I got the iron cobra 310, and the slave pedal bottoms out on every hit making loud clank sound. Any suggestions on adjustment ?
Hi, Try to understand where the sound comes, use some lubricant, in general, will make your pedal last longer, or bike grease.
you need to raise the angle of the footboard. I like IC pedals (the 900s, at least) b/c you can adjust the angle of the footboard independently of the beater angle. The beater shaft isn't welded to the cam - look where they attach
You may have to release the chain from the footboard, remove at least one, maybe two chain links and then re-attach IF the Footboard is bottoming out, this will raise it maybe a little under a half inch. No more bottoming out. Now, place a tiny drop of oil on that old chain - he's thirsty.
there is a stronger spring you can buy for iron cobra...or is it already the strong one? greetz
I know there is for DW pedals, I wonder if it's the same for Tama. I belive it's very strong from the factory tho
How long the strings lasts?
Thats such an important info and such a great explaining video, thank you, I have a question for people who use double bass pedals, I want to know how to set the second pedal correctly so it does not touch at te bottom when I hit it, please answer me, thank you again
You probably have to adjust the angle of the beater, I can't say if more near or farther from the head like this, but give it a try!
The tension of the spring also depends on your body weight... I weigh 55kg and the maximum tension has not worked for me to reach maximum speed... I use a medium tension almost reaching the maximum but I don't have it at the maximum. 🧐
If the spring tension is that high, you will lose dynamics. It's fine if you're only playing hard rock and metal, but if anything that requires subtlety will be difficult.
You say beater should be at Maximum height: i can see still maybe 1cm space/the end of the beater is looking Out (downside pointing to the Floor).
Yes It's true! I mean, not to take the beater in half range!
I would think the lower end of the beater rod could contact the head if it were set too short?
Bro, im going to have to teach you how to set up your stuff man, youre killing yourself.
WTF with this spring tension...
you're overcloacking the tension :))
If the foot stop is unuseless, does that mean it's actually useful? Just pondering.
hahah yes bad english skills sorry!
It means that's useless...
My anterior talofibular ligament (very top of the foot that connects to
the base of the shin) started burning/pinching pain. If I push on it
with a finger it would burn like it did when I was playing. Now its
starting to hurt even when im not playing (just sitting). Anyone ever
deal with anything like this? If so... any advice? I reallllllly want
to become great. I am practicing 1 to 3 hrs every day for the past six
months.
How's your foot doing now? I had the same problem and had to stop playing for a long time, like 2-3 months. I still feel it, but it's getting better with time. No remedy has helped, only rest. But now i can finally play again without great pain😏😌
@@kafaanda it's because I wasn't wearing shoes. I started wearing some skater DCs and it healed up (shrug). The little bit of support seemed to of made all the difference.
@@drakausdromgatti58 That's it! I have allways played without shoes, but when i was getting back into trying to test my foot again, i found out that shoes did support my foot, and take away most of the strain🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I set my new pedal up like this for my Jazz gig last night. I no longer have the gig
This isn't a jazz recommendation lol
springs that tight causes you to put much more effort into playing. A looser tension is more effective and will get you the same speed. I have tried it both ways. Trust me.
this really depends on how you have your head tuned. to each their own! I know a death metal guy who plays loose springs, close beater distance, but he also uses triggers.
It wears out the spring faster one way or the other
Hi Bernardo did you work your way up to maximum spring tension?
Grilly’s for a period of time I used this setting and I got used to it, you have to learn ankle isolation first. Now I lowered the tension a bit and obtained a quite more versatile pedal.
Bernardo Grillo great !
At what tempo did you start swivelling and was it because you were cramping in the ankles ?
5:00, dude, you're driving Fiat Punto?
Plus, tense springs mean slower feet.
bro.... put the thread nut on, then stretch the spring up to the bearing.....
unuseless?
Have any tips to even your foot power? My right foot is way more powerful than my left it often oversped my left when playing doubles.
Hi bro, Try something like the stone killer: play 4 stroke for foot, than 8, than 16 etc...and you can also put a groove on top of it, or practicing blast beat in the same time! make any sense?
Do what you do to warm up on each foot every time you practice
I improved the precision and power of My left foot by playing songs with single bass drum parts using just My left foot and made sure that My left can do exactly what My right foot can do.
Then, I did exercises to build the endurance of My left unti it can keep up with My right.
Hope this helps.
Id say even try putting your foot on a different part of the foot board. My left foots toes go on the middle of my board, but my right foots toes go on the back and that levels the power out for me
Alternating single foot blast beat works really well for me
Anche se non è l'intento sembra il davie504 della batteria
There is only one of them? why would you cut your pedals in half?
45 degrees would be much closed to the drum. This is about 35 degrees.
It's clearly way closer to 45 than it is 30
Someone needs new shoes. 😉
I clicked thinking "some guy has found a way to play THREE kick pedals at the same time." I guess it's only a matter of time, though...
This doesn't work for everyone. Most famous drummers will say they use their spring tension at a midway tension for an all around standard feel. This adjustment may work with speed metal or any type of aggressive drumming, but for an all around tension for session players or drummers of a less aggressive drumming genre, it's not feasible..
My first pedal didnt have a beater angle adjustment, do not buy the alesis kp1 its shite
deez
It’s not that little
Borat!
I dislike the title cause you can't tell someone how to set a pedal, it's all preference. For speed and and control if this works for you than awesome but qomeone may get perfect speed and control with their own settings
unless for heel-toe. the settings is very specific to get it done at maximum speed.
I'm sorry, but i use a low tension and I can go up to 300 bpm, it's just a matter of control
but the pedals u use, technique and bass drum head tension all has to do with it sooo...
Wow, congratz bro if you reach 300bpm 😎
As a heel down player I have to disagree with the high spring tension. I can play faster with a light spring tension
Mine will not even let me adjust the spring on the left part peace of shit
It’s unuseless people, get rid of it ! Thanks by the way
I disagree with some of the points in this video
The higher the tension, the lower the control
Also, while I do have my beaters set at 45 degrees, I have my spring tension as Loose as I can get it on my pedal before the bolt comes off and I can play perfectly fine and perfectly fast.
I also have my beaters not super low but lower than most and I can play with plenty of power
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Зачем малый барабан подмешал к педали с басом, в начале ролика? ((, чтоб стыдно не было?))