Please do give Game of Thrones Abridged a go. After the fourth twenty-minutes-long tangent about the Vale hangman's dietary choices, you'll WISH he was going off a script instead.
To be honest unless it's some sort of sinister takeover of Bloodraven/the Weirwood consciousness, revealing perhaps that even the invasion of the Others was some power play or revenge plot of a faction of the Children of the Forest, I just don't see Bran becoming king. Let's not forget that Tyrion and Arya were supposed to have a romance in early drafts of ASOIAF. And that sure as hell is not happening. Therefore it is simply not guaranteed Bran will be king. It's likely GRRM thought of that plotline at the latest, 10 years ago. And he changes his mind all the time, given his style of writing as a 'gardener'. But D&D saw it in his notes so just did it without thinking and chose to hold it up as a shield since they did not set up that storyline in any way whatsoever.
Of course he doesn't pay rent. Rent is for peasants, Tywin is in the front rows of there mind. As the saying goes "Psychological torture is cheap but lifelong Trauma is priceless"
That’s what years of psychological (and probably physical) abuse from your one parental figure does to ya .. they didn’t even have a Mother to show them the softer aspects of ruling. Only Tywin and his narcissism
He was kind to Sansa as well, and she did not remind him of neither Tysha, nor himself, but he was still genuine and kind to her. He was kind to his nephew Tommen and niece Myrcella. He was more than kind to Podrick.
really dont like the demonizing of Tyrion and the emphasis in him being a "Horrible person now". Its just exaggerated, and feels a bit like pushing social norms and peer pressuring through a character analysis. I don't know, hes a pretty nice dwarf all considered, and his "imp" characteristics are based on will force, he would not be interesting at all if he was just taking shit and endlessly trying to always do the right thing in a very sheepish way, actually that would've been anoying and not realistic at all, just idealistic bullshit.
Quoting another discussion "Why is it so important for you, Stannis's Lawyer, and for some other posters, that Tyrion UNDENIABLY committed an act that can be called "rape"? Do you think it helps us to understand the fictional character of Tyrion better if we put a label on it? Or is it a political fight with a fictional character as proxy about a very really existing horror in our world? So it is a political offense to you and no longer a literature debate if someone does not share your opinion? Yes, indeed nine out of ten encounters including paid sex and prostitution.are sexual abuse, sexual slavery, sexual violence, name it whatever you want. I am not discussing the very well existing case where men or women work as prostitutes because they wish to since they can pay their university fees with four days of work a month instead of 30 days a month and failing the exam. Yes, there is the free decision to be a sex worker and it is a job we should respect like any other job. But this decision is rare, most sex "work" means abuse, and the woman in Selhorys was for sure forced. But why is the word "rape" so important in the debate? Is it the worst accusation possible to villify a character, worse than murder? Really? It is a highly emotionally loaded word and I often meet the position here that it is worse to rape someone than to kill that person. Being a woman myself I must say this is a position far away from life. While rape is horror, like any torture can be, killing kills people, murder is final, death penalty is final, the victims are gone FOREVER, no way of finding back into life, no future. Please people, be more aware of the value of human life. Milllions of women had to go on struggling after rape, for the sake of their children e. g. But Shae has not that chance to go on and she got never raped by Tyrion. I think the whole debate if this is to be labelled "rape" is not necessary at all if we leave the wordfighting surface and try to be aware of the author's intentions concerning the role of Tyrion's fictional character. Martin intended his readers to watch Tyrion do something ugly, something really ugly related to his so very hopeless and damaged sexuality, an act of hatesex, emphasized by him doing it again after he was aware of "having fucked a corpse". An expression of Tyrion's disgust with himself, doing something despicable because he sees himself as having become as despicable as people have always seen him. The meaning of what GRRM wants to tell us here is so very crystal clear that it is totally pointless if we modern readers label the act "rape" or not. Tyrion knows that he does something dirty and Martin wants us readers to see this. So the sexually abused child becomes an abuser himself as it often happens in Real Life. Martin wanted to bring this complex protagonist down to his lowest point in order to restart the character's story from rock bottom again."
Jorah and Tyrion just casually sailing through the smoking sea destroyed me. like, I went full Boromir "One does not simply sail through the Smoking Sea", y'know
Dont know how i didnt realize on the first watch that he drops the name of his writing channel during this. Cant believe I didnt know about it and excited to binge!
What if Rickon is animalistic because he wargs into his wolf, but he just doesn't know and thinks its a dream? He is a kid after all, his mind is very impressionable
There are phrases used throughout the books that led me to firmly believe that Stannis will die fighting an Other with Lightbringer shattering. Maybe it will be the book equivalent of the Hardhome episode, and this is where we learn that Longclaw can kill Walkers
I second that I believe Stannis is going to take Winterfell and stay there during the fight with the others only to die showing he does not have the real lightbringer
One year later and we have no phrases. Would have been cool to have those phrases so we could interact together as a family that loves the series. But I suppose, just like the series, these open-ended sort of comments are to be expected (and loved). Have a nice day, original commenter :)
Hey Shift, thanks for recommending the works of visionary writer Marten Cordial in this episode. What a discovery! The greatest bestest writer alive, in my humble opinion.
Tyrion joining the Night‘s Watch would be the perfect ending for him. It would also mirror the beginning of the story where Tyrion first goes to the wall.
I expect one of Dany's dragon's will get nabbed by Euron early in TWOW. If Tyrion rides a dragon it might be after he tames the remaining dragon with his considerable knowledge of dragons. If But I suspect at some point Dany may give that dragon to Jon which could make Tyrion jealous and cause some problems between them.
Euron and Dany are going to be on the same side. Remember in the sample chapters Victarion just showed up to meereen to help danys forces in the battle of fire. There's even a quote in the book about the kraken wedding the dragon. So idk, seems to me they'll join forces. Also the iron fleet is likely how danys forces will invade Westeros. Still he might betray her, or just cause her to become more unhinged
@@Legs_ Oh Victarion may end up on the same side as Dany, but let us not forget Victarion is no longer on the same side as Euron. He plans to betray Euron by claiming Dany and Dragonbinder for himself. But I highly doubt things will go according to his plan. I expect his attempt to bind Dragonbinder to himself will fail, and when he blows the horn it will send the dragon that's bound by it to Euron who's still the horn's true master.
Viserys would be the best Targaryen name for Jon, as it is the closest male equivalent to Visenya. Which is more than likely what Reagar would have wanted to name his third child.
Oh man, and if Dany has to then compete for the throne with ANOTHER Viserys, that would spark so much conflict in her mind and would be fascinating to read
47:22 Thanks for answering my incredibly important question! It's the only time I've ever given money to a UA-camr but it was such an important question that I needed it answered!
In the book, Tyrion mocks Alliser and ofhandedly gives him the people in the dungeons etc for the wall, aswell as permission to recruit from the starving locals. He says to Allisers face that this is all he can do, because if it appeared that the hand was afraid of Grumpkins and Snarks, he would lose authority before the court. Its not like he could have sent an army to go man the wall. I think its pretty clear that, while still incredulous about it, Tyrion feels that there is some danger from the north that needs to be addressed.
I think the biggest difference from the books and show is the long nights going to take place over years. Not ONE night. Dream of spring they’re still potentially bunkered in winterfell
Lets be honest here. Part of the reason GRRM has written himself into a corner is he's written a story where life can be sustained in total darkness for decades. Its one thing to write that offhandedlly as just a legend within the story, but to actually (believably) craft a narrative where human society can somehow survive perpetual darkness and winter for years on end is going to prove very challenging without fudging the whole "always night/winter" thing.
One of the least discussed characters in terms of book to show changes. Show Tywin is basically cold and stern but ultimately just trying to be ruthless for efficiency and efficacy of rule, true Machiavellian. Book Tywin is actually a lot more like his children, charming, takes joy in humiliating others, quick witted, manipulative and utterly self centred.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 tywin is what we all aspire to be as a father. He saved his family wealth. He provided for his family to an extreme extent. He is feared and ruthless. And he commands respect from everyone. Amazing character. (Except when he tries to kill Tyrion)
i mean he's also abusive and horrible father at the same time, you can tell it by just looking at his children, all three of them are kinda bad persons and it's more or less Tywin's fault If you're looking for a good father figure in ASOIAF it's more likely to be Ned Stark than Tywin
In all honesty, unless there is a massive time jump in DoS, and literally every social construct and custom is destroyed by the upcoming new Long Night, I don't think Bran will be king. We forget Bran is only 9 on the books. Maaaybe he's 11-12 by Winds. Even him being a tree wizard, he's still physically a child. Joffrey was 13 and he would have still had a regent for several years.
Possibly but it’s feasible that time travel is being brought in if Hodor is to be considered canon (which I believe it to be) and I think there may be something to at least make Bran appear aged, what I’m interested in is if King Bran is going to be a more terrifying concept than in the show since who knows if Bran may end up becoming a vessel for the old gods or the new three eyed crow or what
@@rcutler9 but what exactly are his powers again? He can access the collective past and present knowledge of the Children while physically connected to the weirwood net (No weirwood groves south of the Neck except at the Isle of Faces, and only a few heart trees in some castles' godswoods). He can warg into creatures (only animals because warging into humans, while rather useful, is very taboo). And he can possibly influence other people's dreams. We know all of this, but how will the people in the story know that? And how would any of that be compelling to the Hightowers, Redwynes, Yronwoods or whatever southern houses are left? By the end of ASoIaF Bran will no doubt be the most powerful character around, but are his supernatural abilities actually suitable for kingship? Will he be a loyalty-inspiring leader? Will people look up to him for wise counsel and judgement? Or will he shunned and feared as a dark sorcerer just like Bloodraven? We would then have a case of GRRM's own critique of Tolkien: "what was Aragon's tax policy?" What would Bran's kingship actually entail? I don't know, I honestly think Westerosi society is much to rigid and set in its ways to elect a tree-wizard, physically handicapped child to be Lord Protector of the Seven Kingdoms. That's why my caveat was that only if Westeros is thrown back to the Stone Age by the War and essentially all elements of current Westerosi society crumble
@@GumaroRVillamil Well, there is the whole thing with the theory about Bloodraven possessing Bran and taking over his body. Ol' Treewizard was a powerful sorcerer in his own right, and iirc he could use his magic for, for example, guiding his arrows in battle. I'm sure there are many other powers that I'm not familiar with due to not having read anything but the main series.
Not Tyrion related but there's no way Euron just sent Victarion with the horn without a secret twist to it, probably it will anger the dragons and Victarion will end up dead lol
Re Bran as king: the best spin to me would be: We've just gone through a lot of shit and we need some stability for a while. So someone who doesn't have too many enemies can be king as a compromise. He can't have kids so no danger of a dynasty. He probably won't live long so he will be king for maybe 10 years. We can recover and then we'll figure things out again when he dies. That might allow the major houses to accept Bran.
All of this except I think Bran might actually be immortal/ageless (or at least have a lifetime several times that your average) by the end of the series.
@@MugenHeadNinja Then he rules until a council decides on a new ruler and a new dynasty to rule the 7 kingdoms. One which they think would fit the best.
I think Bran will not rule in person but through warging into somebody. In fact Brynden Bloodraven will end up on the throne which would be good spin on Targaryen restoration. Bittersweet ending at its finest.
@@MugenHeadNinja While it may be true that Bran will be immortal/ageless, similar to bloodraven, nobody apart from Bran himself would know that. As far as everybody else is concerned he is some kind of magical cripple.
One thing I like about Stannis Is he actually pays attention to the supernatural stuff and it's beleivable that he would make a deal with the others for power or for the good of the land to end the war. I agree that it likely won't work, but it's interesting to imagine how it might come about.
I like how Georges plans just change 180° all the time. Like first he wants Tyrion to join the starks, then he wants him to atack the starks,in the end he kudt visits the starks
So I noticed another bit of parallel between viserys and viserion. Viserys died from gold being poured into them. Lannisters are known to rule over casterly rock, famous for its gold. Tyrion represents that gold by association. If Tyrion rides viserion then it's like the gold on top of viserys once again.
I personally think that Varys considers Tyrion as a man of 'low cunning.' Tyrion navigates the political field okay, but when you look at the big picture, what Tyrion did when he had power really didn't amount to much. It was mostly him settling personal grudges and consolidating power. To Varys, Tyrion is a good person to use - he's more politically savvy and knowledgeable than Eddard, but not nearly as much as someone like Littlefinger.
I swear people's sole takeaway from these books on how to be politically savvy is to just somehow know every secret conspiracy there is, especially one's that have been in the works for decades and nobody else has managed to sus out yet, somehow. Its not realistic to just expect a character like Eddard or Tyrion or Tywin or Kevin to just insinuate themselves into the court and just unfurl everyone's secrets faster than those conspirators can detect them and deal with them.
Can someone help me confirm one really small detail? In the books, Asha Greyjoy talks about the boy who took her maidenhood, a sailor - probably from volantis - that only knew one word in westerosi: "fUck"; When Tyrion is sailing with Penny and Jorah, the ship's cook is a man who only knows one word in westerosi too (although it is claimed he's from Lys). So, am I just imagining all this, or that is really a fun "coincidence"? I mean, it was not necessary that those details appeared for nothing... :p Anyway, I love this channel, and this may be the best place to check this kind of thing.
@@Jude3e :D :D now please end my torment, tell me in wich book is the part Tyrion is thinking/talking about the crew members of the ship and there is a cook who - in my head at least - matches the description of that lysenni boy (nowadays much older)
Yes he did. And if I remember correctly, she got really pissed at this and tried to have Bronn killed. I think someone was paid to kill him, but was bested.
The power of ambiguity is a great point. Especially in major storytelling, stopping at the right time and leaving the audience space to ponder and imagine is often ridiculously better than overly detailed description of everything. It's one of the reasons LotR will remain one of the pillars of writing in perpetuity, providing both the scale and ambition, and wonderful curiosity of lands and times beyond the immediate journey of the Fellowship. Like details of dragons, or Ungoliant, or other lands and continents. And you can also do this with characters, like "Evegeny Onegyn" or "Hero of our time" in Russian literature give us wonderful portraits of broken, cynical people and their struggles in just immediate events or short stories, without explaining every aspect of their journey.
So many characters have various prophecies and visions (and act on them). It kind of makes you wonder whether prophecies counter each other all the time, or if everything is on a predetermined path.
Scar starts under his eye not above, “…starting a hair under his left eye and ending in the right side if his jaw.” Also in book three page 394 , “…the coarse tangle of black and gold hair that passed for his beard.” Not much of leap to assume hair on his head would match
I wonder if there's a case to be made that Griff is a mislead and Tyrion is actually the mummers dragon. While I'm not sure I like the idea of Tyrion being a Targaryeon, if he is it would make him a dragon on a stinky steward with a mummer (Penny) who was sent by a perfumed seneschal that is also a mummer.
It’s not that surprising - if Tyrion’s character was inspired by Richard III, then it was quite likely the show runners were going to pick an actor who had played Richard III…
Tyrion’s line about bringing a jackass and honeycomb into a brothel isn’t so much a joke as an amusing meandering set-up to a larger story without a proper end… like how the show was ultimately an amusing meandering set-up to a larger story without a proper end. You might even interpret the choice to end the show on that line as a humble admission to their own shortcomings to the monumental task of ending someone else’s set-up 🤷🏼♂️
Regarding the hypothesis of Tyrion's being a chimera: in mythology there is a monster that has the same name. At birth Tyrion is said to be a monster, and is occasionally called a monster in ASOIAF, so it is fitting that he is biologically something that in another context is a type of monster. Unless the maesters are far more advanced than we give them credit for, we will never know if Tyrion is a chimera.
Brand as ruler: in the TV show ending, when they’re sort of breaking the 4th wall, and Sam (Frodo’s pal?) talks about representative government for the people, and the idea is kind of mocked… That does kind of make it perfect that they opt for Brand instead. Since it is SO wrong 😹
something u said about tyrion embracing his lannisterness and thinking of himself as tywin writ small n taking on all his extreme hate n vengefulness...tywin hated his father cuz of his weakness its no secret...as does tyrion...but it just dawned on me...apparently tywins fathers heart burst or something on his way to his mistress...what if thats what tywin made the world believe by making his maester tell people that n in reality tywin killed his father one night when he saw him going to see his mistress n confronted him n in his rage n hatred killed him...just like tyrion...a few circumstances match both the incidences of tyrion killing tywin n tywin killing tytos:o this JUST came to me if its been theorized ive never read of it
Random thought: Maybe Tyrion is Ares AND Tywin's some kind of messed up incestual medical mishap? I don't know how that would happen on the actual medical side of things but then again this is GoT so anything is possible. When Joanna and Tywin are married they are also Cousins... So the Lannisters are totally not above engaging in open incest. Ares is also obviously decendant of a long line of incestral family marraige too so I wouldn't even be surprised that literally everyone in Westeros is related down then line somewhere... Like with the Casterly's bacically spawning tons of people through they're OWN long time incestrial family marraiges that went on for hundreds of years before they branched out and started marrying outside the family bloodline and pretty much starts populating the bulk of Westeros... Then the Lannisters come straight out of them like most of the first peoples that made up the beginning of the population of Westeros. So then Ares's family done the same thing for hundreds of years too so yeah, everyone is related somehow no doubt, lol... ok sorry im babbling... So Ares always wanted Joanna and even says he slept with her before Tywin, and this seems to be true. I'm not going to get into if Cersai and Jayme are really Tywin's kids so lets say when Ares see's Joanna at the Tornie in King's Landing and done something to her... bad. Enough to make Tywin resign as his Hand. I think he could have raped her, and she either doesn't tell Tywin out of fear because she knows she is pregnant by the time they arrive back in Casterly Rock and to cover it up she goes to bed with Tywin immediately to pass the babe off as his. But since this is GoT and she had twins before, what if somehow she got knocked up by both men? She was carrying twins but Tyrion got better off in the womb and basically his twin is like some kind of syameese monsterish thing... thats why Tyrion looks so much like 2 differant people with the dark black/purple eye and the bright green eye and then where he is only a "half-man" while all along he is 2 in one body? and maybe that explains the dark strans of hair he has and the white blonde. I find Tyrion can have almost a split personality sometimes too... And the tale of him being born with both female and male parts and having a tail? Seems like some rumors made into a horrific story that could be true? Maybe either she couldn't give birth to Tyrions twin since it was such a messed up pregnancy from the get-go that when she passed away the other twin was still inside? Still borne? Or maybe Ares made Joanna drink wildfire or she injested it by accident or something like that and Tyrion is Tywins child but Ares had ifected the pregnancy at that Torny either by rape or otherwise... and that why his eye is like wildfire and why he was so messed up looking and was a dwarf and Joanna died in childbirth that way? WOW. I have went down the rabbit hole lol sorry about that but I was just thinking about that for so long haha anyone kinda get what im saying? Anyone think this is a little too "tinfoil hat-ish" or could there be any weight to my theorie?? Again, sorry for the long post and the spelling and the babbling and jumping from one thing to another I really wanted to just get my idea out there but thats impossible to do for me I guess without my ideas snowballing into a bunch of other stuff :\ ... Thanks!
PLEASE make a Stannis video. He's one of the most compelling characters in the book. I wouldn't want to be his captive, but I love reading about him. He's my favorite, minus the people cooking.
Perfect frame to use at 11:03 for discussing the ridiculousness of this moment. Cercei is standing in the background with her giant undead zombie protector and she’s supposed to be afraid of this thing?
"Tyrion gave Penny's shoulder a squeeze. Strands of hair, pale blond and black, clung to his brow, the rags of his tunic to his back" i think the strands of black hair are coming from his scalp and some of it sticks to hiw brow cause his forehead jolts foward while the rest of his face is squashed in. the wiki boys don't play
Missed the stream! :( Wanted to get your thoughts on this! The theory that Tyrion is actually a Targaryen, and that Tyrions mother died during child birth, just like Lyanna Stark did, maybe birthing a targaryen as a non-Targaryen often results in death? Which is why Targaryens often marry siblings etc, because they can survive the child birth, unlike others?
His mother was still Tywins wife, a noble lady, as both of his parents are highborn he wouldnt be a bast_rd, you have to be one lowborn and one highborn to be a bast_rd
@@1ukzje not true at all. A bastard is simply anyone born out of wedlock. Edric Storm for example is a bastard and his parents are Robert Baratheon and Delena Florent, both highborn
I believe the pink letter was written by Ramsay, but during its transmission, the letter was modified by other people such as Wayman Manderley and perhaps Mance also. And maybe even Theon 🕷🕸
I know the A-team plot at the end of season 7 was dumb as hell, but I can't lie - I loved the shit out of it, lmao. It was just stupid fun and I enjoyed seeing all of those people together for the first time. Sometimes, I just like goofy, trashy shit, and this show was already off the rails, so I'd rather be entertained than bored. Edit: Holy shit - Euron's gonna pull an Arthas Menethil and Lich King those walkers over to Stratho-- uh, King's Landing!
2:38:37 I think he misunderstood the question. It wasn't asking about the in-world plan, rather, he was asking if George had that plotline in mind while he was writing the first book. I'm thinking he did not.
I always liked the idea that Jon's Targaryen name(don't think he will have one or will find out if he does) would be Vaemon. Combining that V name and aemon together.
interesting idea about valyrians somehow creating dragons. if that's true maybe they consider themselves "blood of the dragon" because the creation involved a blood sacrifice from the valyrians
Tyrion Targaryen as a redemption arc. I like that idea. I think that GRRM is too commited to Tyrion as a character to write him off as irredeemably bad. I don't think Varys wanted the assassination attempt on Dany to succeed. My interpretation is that he instructed Ser Jorah to save her if he could. But he probably wouldn't have been very upset if she had died.
With regards to Jon and Ghost in TWOW, have you read Royal Assassin by Robin Hobb (a friend of Martin’s), and if so what do you think of the comparisons?
What about the rumors that Martin was planning to kill Tyrion but changed the script due to Peter Dinklage popularity as the character? I am sure this influenced the swift to "good" Tyrion as well. Great content, thank you!!
I think darkstar would kind of be like king von as a rapper… put in so much work in the streets trying to live up to someone just to die in a stupid emotional moment.
The Dragon has 3 souls on it . The ultimate soul tht was sacrificed in blood maigic in ancient valeria , the dragons head and the riders head together become ONE to make 3 heads of the dragon.
Swear everyone seemed to hate Arya killing the Night King but me. I thought it made sense because the NK is the embodiment of death and No One can defeat death.
But not that easy thou, I can see arya making the last stab to end the night king, but after a long fight with jhon sonw and two more characters at least, then fighting arya....or fighting all at once and arya get him at the end somehow, but what happend in the show is so bad
When they inevitably redo the show when all the books are out a couple hundred years from now, I vote Shifty to be on the writing team
Because he’s immortal?
@@jamaphy8621 in the next five years we will all be brains suspended in robot bodies so
Michael Cera as Twinn Lannister?
@@HowdyItLovll George Michael Lannister
They'll redo it within 20 years
I think I would’ve forgotten about asoiaf/GoT if it wasn’t for this channel.
I wouldn't have forgotten, but my perspective would have been much more negative.
Those last books are never coming out 😔
@@DrGaslight187 maybe not 😔
This channel rekindled my interest in the books after the show destroyed it.
@@DrGaslight187 yeah, it’s almost a certainty spring isn’t coming out but I have more faith in winds of winter.
I would kill for a proper Stannis video!
Make sure it’s a Bolton if you do
@@dwightschrute3721 Or a Frey
Well for a stannis video you’ll have to sacrifice somebody with kings blood to the lord of light
Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!
YES
My first time hearing him not reading a script. The spontaneity of his speech is refreshing. I'll read an audiobook narrated by this guy. 😉
Oh man, you would love his GOT abridged podcast. All off the cuff, chapter by chapter analysis of the books. Check them out!
Check out the ALT SCHWIFT X GAAAAME OF THRONES AAABRIDGED (hes a lil drunk in the first episode but its really fun)
he has a channel where he reads books its called alt shift zzz
@@Thomas-dj4zs jajxjehsijdnxjdjhsgwhzbjsjs.... Omg!!!!
Please do give Game of Thrones Abridged a go. After the fourth twenty-minutes-long tangent about the Vale hangman's dietary choices, you'll WISH he was going off a script instead.
When talking about "what does Bran being King mean?"
". . .What is Aragorn's tax policy?" That was a fire line to turn back on GRRM I love it.
To be honest unless it's some sort of sinister takeover of Bloodraven/the Weirwood consciousness, revealing perhaps that even the invasion of the Others was some power play or revenge plot of a faction of the Children of the Forest, I just don't see Bran becoming king. Let's not forget that Tyrion and Arya were supposed to have a romance in early drafts of ASOIAF. And that sure as hell is not happening. Therefore it is simply not guaranteed Bran will be king. It's likely GRRM thought of that plotline at the latest, 10 years ago. And he changes his mind all the time, given his style of writing as a 'gardener'.
But D&D saw it in his notes so just did it without thinking and chose to hold it up as a shield since they did not set up that storyline in any way whatsoever.
1:48:50 thanks for answering my question. It was the first super chat I ever sent and it may aswell have been you my favourite content creator
Tywin lives rent free in all his kids heads.
Of course he doesn't pay rent. Rent is for peasants, Tywin is in the front rows of there mind. As the saying goes "Psychological torture is cheap but lifelong Trauma is priceless"
they live rent free on his treasury, the useless lot
A Lannister always pays his rent
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That’s what years of psychological (and probably physical) abuse from your one parental figure does to ya .. they didn’t even have a Mother to show them the softer aspects of ruling. Only Tywin and his narcissism
He was kind to Sansa as well, and she did not remind him of neither Tysha, nor himself, but he was still genuine and kind to her. He was kind to his nephew Tommen and niece Myrcella. He was more than kind to Podrick.
really dont like the demonizing of Tyrion and the emphasis in him being a "Horrible person now". Its just exaggerated, and feels a bit like pushing social norms and peer pressuring through a character analysis. I don't know, hes a pretty nice dwarf all considered, and his "imp" characteristics are based on will force, he would not be interesting at all if he was just taking shit and endlessly trying to always do the right thing in a very sheepish way, actually that would've been anoying and not realistic at all, just idealistic bullshit.
@@end.olives "demonization" dude he literally rapes someone. Did you read the book?
Simps
Quoting another discussion
"Why is it so important for you, Stannis's Lawyer, and for some other posters, that Tyrion UNDENIABLY committed an act that can be called "rape"?
Do you think it helps us to understand the fictional character of Tyrion better if we put a label on it?
Or is it a political fight with a fictional character as proxy about a very really existing horror in our world? So it is a political offense to you and no longer a literature debate if someone does not share your opinion?
Yes, indeed nine out of ten encounters including paid sex and prostitution.are sexual abuse, sexual slavery, sexual violence, name it whatever you want. I am not discussing the very well existing case where men or women work as prostitutes because they wish to since they can pay their university fees with four days of work a month instead of 30 days a month and failing the exam. Yes, there is the free decision to be a sex worker and it is a job we should respect like any other job. But this decision is rare, most sex "work" means abuse, and the woman in Selhorys was for sure forced.
But why is the word "rape" so important in the debate? Is it the worst accusation possible to villify a character, worse than murder? Really? It is a highly emotionally loaded word and I often meet the position here that it is worse to rape someone than to kill that person. Being a woman myself I must say this is a position far away from life. While rape is horror, like any torture can be, killing kills people, murder is final, death penalty is final, the victims are gone FOREVER, no way of finding back into life, no future. Please people, be more aware of the value of human life. Milllions of women had to go on struggling after rape, for the sake of their children e. g. But Shae has not that chance to go on and she got never raped by Tyrion.
I think the whole debate if this is to be labelled "rape" is not necessary at all if we leave the wordfighting surface and try to be aware of the author's intentions concerning the role of Tyrion's fictional character.
Martin intended his readers to watch Tyrion do something ugly, something really ugly related to his so very hopeless and damaged sexuality, an act of hatesex, emphasized by him doing it again after he was aware of "having fucked a corpse". An expression of Tyrion's disgust with himself, doing something despicable because he sees himself as having become as despicable as people have always seen him.
The meaning of what GRRM wants to tell us here is so very crystal clear that it is totally pointless if we modern readers label the act "rape" or not. Tyrion knows that he does something dirty and Martin wants us readers to see this. So the sexually abused child becomes an abuser himself as it often happens in Real Life. Martin wanted to bring this complex protagonist down to his lowest point in order to restart the character's story from rock bottom again."
@@end.olives That’s just arguing semantics. Call it rape or call it something else, it’s still the same hideous act.
Jorah and Tyrion just casually sailing through the smoking sea destroyed me. like, I went full Boromir "One does not simply sail through the Smoking Sea", y'know
Shut up nerd
Dont know how i didnt realize on the first watch that he drops the name of his writing channel during this. Cant believe I didnt know about it and excited to binge!
What was the name of that?
That little wight adventure lost Dany a dragon, too. And that let the Night King through the Wall. Worst idea ever.
All so Cersei could go “cool zombie, didn’t ask”
What if Rickon is animalistic because he wargs into his wolf, but he just doesn't know and thinks its a dream? He is a kid after all, his mind is very impressionable
I feel like people keep forgetting he’s with Osha and she seems to have a pretty good handle on him when we last see them.
I think he’s going to bond too close which will lead to him becoming the leader of the cannibal isle
I shall be listening to this tomorrow morning on my walk
I really enjoy falling alseep with your videos. I’m loving the longer format.
There are phrases used throughout the books that led me to firmly believe that Stannis will die fighting an Other with Lightbringer shattering. Maybe it will be the book equivalent of the Hardhome episode, and this is where we learn that Longclaw can kill Walkers
What phrases
when you say there are phrases,you should add them so that others can be convinced
Please elaborate
I second that I believe Stannis is going to take Winterfell and stay there during the fight with the others only to die showing he does not have the real lightbringer
One year later and we have no phrases. Would have been cool to have those phrases so we could interact together as a family that loves the series. But I suppose, just like the series, these open-ended sort of comments are to be expected (and loved). Have a nice day, original commenter :)
Hey Shift, thanks for recommending the works of visionary writer Marten Cordial in this episode. What a discovery! The greatest bestest writer alive, in my humble opinion.
Wow I love this channel so much and just learned there’s a podcast and it’s so refreshing to hear the honesty about the ending of the show 😂
Drink water, eat veggies, call your mom. Words to live by.
6:30 notice me senpai ! Keep posting like the wind dude, that's how you get 1 billion subs !
I agree that the religion & disaster video was one of your best. Would love to see some of those sprinkled in the future if inspiration strikes
Tyrion joining the Night‘s Watch would be the perfect ending for him. It would also mirror the beginning of the story where Tyrion first goes to the wall.
I expect one of Dany's dragon's will get nabbed by Euron early in TWOW. If Tyrion rides a dragon it might be after he tames the remaining dragon with his considerable knowledge of dragons. If But I suspect at some point Dany may give that dragon to Jon which could make Tyrion jealous and cause some problems between them.
Euron and Dany are going to be on the same side. Remember in the sample chapters Victarion just showed up to meereen to help danys forces in the battle of fire.
There's even a quote in the book about the kraken wedding the dragon. So idk, seems to me they'll join forces. Also the iron fleet is likely how danys forces will invade Westeros.
Still he might betray her, or just cause her to become more unhinged
@@Legs_ Oh Victarion may end up on the same side as Dany, but let us not forget Victarion is no longer on the same side as Euron. He plans to betray Euron by claiming Dany and Dragonbinder for himself. But I highly doubt things will go according to his plan. I expect his attempt to bind Dragonbinder to himself will fail, and when he blows the horn it will send the dragon that's bound by it to Euron who's still the horn's true master.
Viserys would be the best Targaryen name for Jon, as it is the closest male equivalent to Visenya. Which is more than likely what Reagar would have wanted to name his third child.
Oh man, and if Dany has to then compete for the throne with ANOTHER Viserys, that would spark so much conflict in her mind and would be fascinating to read
I always thought jaheracys was a gonna be John’s name
Torrhen. It was Lyanna naming him. Or maybe an underutilized Targ name like Aenar.
My bet would go towards Aemon
This is literally the only long-form content I can watch all the way through on youtube. Love your vids.
47:22 Thanks for answering my incredibly important question! It's the only time I've ever given money to a UA-camr but it was such an important question that I needed it answered!
Alliser Thorne did the whole bring the wight to King's Landing back in ACOK and Tyrion didn't give a shit.
In the book, Tyrion mocks Alliser and ofhandedly gives him the people in the dungeons etc for the wall, aswell as permission to recruit from the starving locals. He says to Allisers face that this is all he can do, because if it appeared that the hand was afraid of Grumpkins and Snarks, he would lose authority before the court. Its not like he could have sent an army to go man the wall. I think its pretty clear that, while still incredulous about it, Tyrion feels that there is some danger from the north that needs to be addressed.
I mean, didnt Alliser get forced to wait so long the wight hand he brought dissolved in the jar before he could show the court.
I think the biggest difference from the books and show is the long nights going to take place over years. Not ONE night. Dream of spring they’re still potentially bunkered in winterfell
Lets be honest here. Part of the reason GRRM has written himself into a corner is he's written a story where life can be sustained in total darkness for decades. Its one thing to write that offhandedlly as just a legend within the story, but to actually (believably) craft a narrative where human society can somehow survive perpetual darkness and winter for years on end is going to prove very challenging without fudging the whole "always night/winter" thing.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897just as summer has nights, I think winter will have days and some farming happening.
We need more tywin content. He is the most well-written character in the entire series to me
I find it really interesting how any compassion or happiness he had died when his wife died.
One of the least discussed characters in terms of book to show changes. Show Tywin is basically cold and stern but ultimately just trying to be ruthless for efficiency and efficacy of rule, true Machiavellian. Book Tywin is actually a lot more like his children, charming, takes joy in humiliating others, quick witted, manipulative and utterly self centred.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 tywin is what we all aspire to be as a father. He saved his family wealth. He provided for his family to an extreme extent. He is feared and ruthless. And he commands respect from everyone. Amazing character. (Except when he tries to kill Tyrion)
@@willbeard4835 Is he? Cuckolding my son (twice) and making him take a turn isn't part of my ideal fatherhood vision, but that's just me.
i mean he's also abusive and horrible father at the same time, you can tell it by just looking at his children, all three of them are kinda bad persons and it's more or less Tywin's fault
If you're looking for a good father figure in ASOIAF it's more likely to be Ned Stark than Tywin
In all honesty, unless there is a massive time jump in DoS, and literally every social construct and custom is destroyed by the upcoming new Long Night, I don't think Bran will be king. We forget Bran is only 9 on the books. Maaaybe he's 11-12 by Winds. Even him being a tree wizard, he's still physically a child. Joffrey was 13 and he would have still had a regent for several years.
Possibly but it’s feasible that time travel is being brought in if Hodor is to be considered canon (which I believe it to be) and I think there may be something to at least make Bran appear aged, what I’m interested in is if King Bran is going to be a more terrifying concept than in the show since who knows if Bran may end up becoming a vessel for the old gods or the new three eyed crow or what
I mean it's not really Bran becoming king at that point. It's more like the old gods hivemind inhabiting a 9 year olds body.
@@rcutler9 but what exactly are his powers again? He can access the collective past and present knowledge of the Children while physically connected to the weirwood net (No weirwood groves south of the Neck except at the Isle of Faces, and only a few heart trees in some castles' godswoods). He can warg into creatures (only animals because warging into humans, while rather useful, is very taboo). And he can possibly influence other people's dreams. We know all of this, but how will the people in the story know that? And how would any of that be compelling to the Hightowers, Redwynes, Yronwoods or whatever southern houses are left?
By the end of ASoIaF Bran will no doubt be the most powerful character around, but are his supernatural abilities actually suitable for kingship? Will he be a loyalty-inspiring leader? Will people look up to him for wise counsel and judgement? Or will he shunned and feared as a dark sorcerer just like Bloodraven? We would then have a case of GRRM's own critique of Tolkien: "what was Aragon's tax policy?" What would Bran's kingship actually entail?
I don't know, I honestly think Westerosi society is much to rigid and set in its ways to elect a tree-wizard, physically handicapped child to be Lord Protector of the Seven Kingdoms. That's why my caveat was that only if Westeros is thrown back to the Stone Age by the War and essentially all elements of current Westerosi society crumble
@@GumaroRVillamil Well, there is the whole thing with the theory about Bloodraven possessing Bran and taking over his body. Ol' Treewizard was a powerful sorcerer in his own right, and iirc he could use his magic for, for example, guiding his arrows in battle. I'm sure there are many other powers that I'm not familiar with due to not having read anything but the main series.
Not Tyrion related but there's no way Euron just sent Victarion with the horn without a secret twist to it, probably it will anger the dragons and Victarion will end up dead lol
I think the thing is, Euron is the horns master, so the dragons will come to him, but Victarion will be killed by it.
Are you implying Euron's gifts are poisoned?
If Victarion got a magic hand just to die that would be incredibly lame, maybe he will strangle Euron with his magic hand
Arya's arc in season 6 is when I gave up my expectations about the show. The exact episode was the one where the waif became terminator.
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I gave up my expectations after the stupid Dorne episode in season 5.
Re Bran as king: the best spin to me would be: We've just gone through a lot of shit and we need some stability for a while. So someone who doesn't have too many enemies can be king as a compromise. He can't have kids so no danger of a dynasty. He probably won't live long so he will be king for maybe 10 years. We can recover and then we'll figure things out again when he dies. That might allow the major houses to accept Bran.
All of this except I think Bran might actually be immortal/ageless (or at least have a lifetime several times that your average) by the end of the series.
@@MugenHeadNinja Then he rules until a council decides on a new ruler and a new dynasty to rule the 7 kingdoms. One which they think would fit the best.
I think Bran will not rule in person but through warging into somebody. In fact Brynden Bloodraven will end up on the throne which would be good spin on Targaryen restoration. Bittersweet ending at its finest.
@@MugenHeadNinja While it may be true that Bran will be immortal/ageless, similar to bloodraven, nobody apart from Bran himself would know that. As far as everybody else is concerned he is some kind of magical cripple.
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 Yeah. I still do not expect Bran to ever leave the cave he is in right now.
Thank you for introducing us to Bella, love the artwork!
One thing I like about Stannis Is he actually pays attention to the supernatural stuff and it's beleivable that he would make a deal with the others for power or for the good of the land to end the war.
I agree that it likely won't work, but it's interesting to imagine how it might come about.
Ez subscribe. After binging the 6+ hour iceberg stream, I realized you're rather easy to listen to. Cheers
Er, I mean, I also hate that Alt Schwift X guy. He's a jerk.
Really enjoying these podcasts, would love to see more guests appearing as well!
I like how Georges plans just change 180° all the time. Like first he wants Tyrion to join the starks, then he wants him to atack the starks,in the end he kudt visits the starks
So I noticed another bit of parallel between viserys and viserion. Viserys died from gold being poured into them. Lannisters are known to rule over casterly rock, famous for its gold. Tyrion represents that gold by association. If Tyrion rides viserion then it's like the gold on top of viserys once again.
44:44 Varis in my language (urdu) means 'successor' which would mean Varys is eventually going to succeed the Iron Throne. Facts.
I personally think that Varys considers Tyrion as a man of 'low cunning.'
Tyrion navigates the political field okay, but when you look at the big picture, what Tyrion did when he had power really didn't amount to much. It was mostly him settling personal grudges and consolidating power.
To Varys, Tyrion is a good person to use - he's more politically savvy and knowledgeable than Eddard, but not nearly as much as someone like Littlefinger.
I swear people's sole takeaway from these books on how to be politically savvy is to just somehow know every secret conspiracy there is, especially one's that have been in the works for decades and nobody else has managed to sus out yet, somehow. Its not realistic to just expect a character like Eddard or Tyrion or Tywin or Kevin to just insinuate themselves into the court and just unfurl everyone's secrets faster than those conspirators can detect them and deal with them.
Can someone help me confirm one really small detail?
In the books, Asha Greyjoy talks about the boy who took her maidenhood, a sailor - probably from volantis - that only knew one word in westerosi: "fUck";
When Tyrion is sailing with Penny and Jorah, the ship's cook is a man who only knows one word in westerosi too (although it is claimed he's from Lys).
So, am I just imagining all this, or that is really a fun "coincidence"? I mean, it was not necessary that those details appeared for nothing... :p
Anyway, I love this channel, and this may be the best place to check this kind of thing.
I'm fairly certain the boy who took her maidenhead has always lived on the iron isles
@@Jude3e I don't' know man, I really remember reading that the boy worked in a ship and only knew one word in westerosi
@@nidielcacaca youre right I was thinking of tristifer botley. She did get doinked by the 16 year old lysenni sailor
@@Jude3e :D :D now please end my torment, tell me in wich book is the part Tyrion is thinking/talking about the crew members of the ship and there is a cook who - in my head at least - matches the description of that lysenni boy (nowadays much older)
I heard, Bronn has named his (not biological) son, 'Tyrion'. I don't know if this is true, but I find it's funny. Cersei would be super pissed!
Yes he did. And if I remember correctly, she got really pissed at this and tried to have Bronn killed. I think someone was paid to kill him, but was bested.
Thanks for the confirmation!
@@ClaireYunFarronXIII She tried to get the lord of the castle he was living at to kill him but he killed the lord and took over the castle.
@@dakotasherman632 What a 20 IQ move, imagine choosing a pudgy lord to bump off one of the most skillful, scrappy sellswords in the realm.
@@ClaireYunFarronXIII Didn't Bronn trick a noble lordy lord (a Stokeworth maybe?) into single combat like Tyrion did in the Eyrie?
this was awesome man, do more
The power of ambiguity is a great point. Especially in major storytelling, stopping at the right time and leaving the audience space to ponder and imagine is often ridiculously better than overly detailed description of everything. It's one of the reasons LotR will remain one of the pillars of writing in perpetuity, providing both the scale and ambition, and wonderful curiosity of lands and times beyond the immediate journey of the Fellowship. Like details of dragons, or Ungoliant, or other lands and continents. And you can also do this with characters, like "Evegeny Onegyn" or "Hero of our time" in Russian literature give us wonderful portraits of broken, cynical people and their struggles in just immediate events or short stories, without explaining every aspect of their journey.
So many characters have various prophecies and visions (and act on them). It kind of makes you wonder whether prophecies counter each other all the time, or if everything is on a predetermined path.
Scar starts under his eye not above, “…starting a hair under his left eye and ending in the right side if his jaw.”
Also in book three page 394 ,
“…the coarse tangle of black and gold hair that passed for his beard.” Not much of leap to assume hair on his head would match
fantastic original video. love how much effort you guys put in each video. the quality is definitely loved! please keep up the long forum format
Best channel I have ever discovered 🙌
Baby can we get a Dune breakdown. Tried reading it and my poor brain sono confuso after the first few chapters. Please and thank you xx
I wonder if there's a case to be made that Griff is a mislead and Tyrion is actually the mummers dragon. While I'm not sure I like the idea of Tyrion being a Targaryeon, if he is it would make him a dragon on a stinky steward with a mummer (Penny) who was sent by a perfumed seneschal that is also a mummer.
Oooh nice
I didn’t know you had a podcast man. Awesome cheers!
Only if there was a way to listen to you read the books to me 🧐
Please do more live streams. I love listening too you
If everyone had a happy ending… would they all be at the same brothel?
Hey Shift. I would love a Stannis-Cenrtric Video if you have the time .
Keep up the good work :)
Tyrion is the '&' of "A Song of Ice & Fire", he'll bring it together
1:37:50 could Jaime strangle Cersei as a mercy so that she doesn’t die in a more horrible way to him
It’s not that surprising - if Tyrion’s character was inspired by Richard III, then it was quite likely the show runners were going to pick an actor who had played Richard III…
Remember that main characters is not about how many points of your chapters you get but how much growth your character has
17:00 I knew it! Tyrion IS a time travelling fetus
I had to laugh out loud when he phrased it as "Tyrion's real father being Khal Drogo" 😂
Tyrion’s line about bringing a jackass and honeycomb into a brothel isn’t so much a joke as an amusing meandering set-up to a larger story without a proper end… like how the show was ultimately an amusing meandering set-up to a larger story without a proper end.
You might even interpret the choice to end the show on that line as a humble admission to their own shortcomings to the monumental task of ending someone else’s set-up 🤷🏼♂️
Humble?
Regarding the hypothesis of Tyrion's being a chimera: in mythology there is a monster that has the same name. At birth Tyrion is said to be a monster, and is occasionally called a monster in ASOIAF, so it is fitting that he is biologically something that in another context is a type of monster. Unless the maesters are far more advanced than we give them credit for, we will never know if Tyrion is a chimera.
Brand as ruler: in the TV show ending, when they’re sort of breaking the 4th wall, and Sam (Frodo’s pal?) talks about representative government for the people, and the idea is kind of mocked…
That does kind of make it perfect that they opt for Brand instead. Since it is SO wrong 😹
something u said about tyrion embracing his lannisterness and thinking of himself as tywin writ small n taking on all his extreme hate n vengefulness...tywin hated his father cuz of his weakness its no secret...as does tyrion...but it just dawned on me...apparently tywins fathers heart burst or something on his way to his mistress...what if thats what tywin made the world believe by making his maester tell people that n in reality tywin killed his father one night when he saw him going to see his mistress n confronted him n in his rage n hatred killed him...just like tyrion...a few circumstances match both the incidences of tyrion killing tywin n tywin killing tytos:o this JUST came to me if its been theorized ive never read of it
Bran: God Emperor of Dune
So much this.
This is just what I needed
I'd love you made a similar video analysis about Jaime, I forgot about his dreams (I should re-read asoiaf).
Love this video very much, thank-you.
More of this I need!!
Random thought:
Maybe Tyrion is Ares AND Tywin's some kind of messed up incestual medical mishap? I don't know how that would happen on the actual medical side of things but then again this is GoT so anything is possible. When Joanna and Tywin are married they are also Cousins... So the Lannisters are totally not above engaging in open incest. Ares is also obviously decendant of a long line of incestral family marraige too so I wouldn't even be surprised that literally everyone in Westeros is related down then line somewhere... Like with the Casterly's bacically spawning tons of people through they're OWN long time incestrial family marraiges that went on for hundreds of years before they branched out and started marrying outside the family bloodline and pretty much starts populating the bulk of Westeros... Then the Lannisters come straight out of them like most of the first peoples that made up the beginning of the population of Westeros. So then Ares's family done the same thing for hundreds of years too so yeah, everyone is related somehow no doubt, lol... ok sorry im babbling...
So Ares always wanted Joanna and even says he slept with her before Tywin, and this seems to be true. I'm not going to get into if Cersai and Jayme are really Tywin's kids so lets say when Ares see's Joanna at the Tornie in King's Landing and done something to her... bad. Enough to make Tywin resign as his Hand. I think he could have raped her, and she either doesn't tell Tywin out of fear because she knows she is pregnant by the time they arrive back in Casterly Rock and to cover it up she goes to bed with Tywin immediately to pass the babe off as his. But since this is GoT and she had twins before, what if somehow she got knocked up by both men? She was carrying twins but Tyrion got better off in the womb and basically his twin is like some kind of syameese monsterish thing... thats why Tyrion looks so much like 2 differant people with the dark black/purple eye and the bright green eye and then where he is only a "half-man" while all along he is 2 in one body? and maybe that explains the dark strans of hair he has and the white blonde. I find Tyrion can have almost a split personality sometimes too... And the tale of him being born with both female and male parts and having a tail? Seems like some rumors made into a horrific story that could be true? Maybe either she couldn't give birth to Tyrions twin since it was such a messed up pregnancy from the get-go that when she passed away the other twin was still inside? Still borne? Or maybe Ares made Joanna drink wildfire or she injested it by accident or something like that and Tyrion is Tywins child but Ares had ifected the pregnancy at that Torny either by rape or otherwise... and that why his eye is like wildfire and why he was so messed up looking and was a dwarf and Joanna died in childbirth that way?
WOW. I have went down the rabbit hole lol sorry about that but I was just thinking about that for so long haha anyone kinda get what im saying? Anyone think this is a little too "tinfoil hat-ish" or could there be any weight to my theorie?? Again, sorry for the long post and the spelling and the babbling and jumping from one thing to another I really wanted to just get my idea out there but thats impossible to do for me I guess without my ideas snowballing into a bunch of other stuff :\ ... Thanks!
PLEASE make a Stannis video. He's one of the most compelling characters in the book. I wouldn't want to be his captive, but I love reading about him. He's my favorite, minus the people cooking.
Man new to your channel, and have been loving the in depth logical look at the characters and the multitude of story lines.
Loved the hour long video, the rap is gore I shared it.. thank you Alt Shift
Full video on the mannis when Shift? Loving your work recently
I'll say it if you won't: PJ when off his rocker is oft so in the manner of a genius, whereas when OotGH so indulges it's otherwise
Thanks for keeping the F in ASoIaF alive!
Perfect frame to use at 11:03 for discussing the ridiculousness of this moment. Cercei is standing in the background with her giant undead zombie protector and she’s supposed to be afraid of this thing?
I feel its kinda hard for him to be "redeemed" at best he can do good. But being redeemed isn't really possible after all he did.
"Tyrion gave Penny's shoulder a squeeze. Strands of hair, pale blond and black, clung to his brow, the rags of his tunic to his back"
i think the strands of black hair are coming from his scalp and some of it sticks to hiw brow cause his forehead jolts foward while the rest of his face is squashed in. the wiki boys don't play
when does this happen?
Could he just have dirty hair, muddy hair?
Missed the stream! :( Wanted to get your thoughts on this! The theory that Tyrion is actually a Targaryen, and that Tyrions mother died during child birth, just like Lyanna Stark did, maybe birthing a targaryen as a non-Targaryen often results in death? Which is why Targaryens often marry siblings etc, because they can survive the child birth, unlike others?
that CBT question 😂
If Tirion would be a son of Aerys the MAD King, why World he be a Tagaryen? Wouldent He be just some random Basterd?
No, because even if he’s a bastard he still has Targaryen blood. He’s still a part of the family tree.
Firstly because legitimisation is a thing, and secondly magical blood cares naught for the marital status of someone's parents.
His mother was still Tywins wife, a noble lady, as both of his parents are highborn he wouldnt be a bast_rd, you have to be one lowborn and one highborn to be a bast_rd
@@1ukzje not true at all. A bastard is simply anyone born out of wedlock. Edric Storm for example is a bastard and his parents are Robert Baratheon and Delena Florent, both highborn
TSTMTW was Daenerys all along.
im on the Marten Cordial train baby CHOOCHOO 😂
been avoiding this from the chucky looking cover
I believe the pink letter was written by Ramsay, but during its transmission, the letter was modified by other people such as Wayman Manderley and perhaps Mance also. And maybe even Theon 🕷🕸
Can we get Stannis the mannis video?
I know the A-team plot at the end of season 7 was dumb as hell, but I can't lie - I loved the shit out of it, lmao. It was just stupid fun and I enjoyed seeing all of those people together for the first time. Sometimes, I just like goofy, trashy shit, and this show was already off the rails, so I'd rather be entertained than bored. Edit: Holy shit - Euron's gonna pull an Arthas Menethil and Lich King those walkers over to Stratho-- uh, King's Landing!
2:38:37 I think he misunderstood the question. It wasn't asking about the in-world plan, rather, he was asking if George had that plotline in mind while he was writing the first book. I'm thinking he did not.
I always liked the idea that Jon's Targaryen name(don't think he will have one or will find out if he does) would be Vaemon. Combining that V name and aemon together.
interesting idea about valyrians somehow creating dragons. if that's true maybe they consider themselves "blood of the dragon" because the creation involved a blood sacrifice from the valyrians
Tyrion Targaryen as a redemption arc.
I like that idea.
I think that GRRM is too commited to Tyrion as a character to write him off as irredeemably bad.
I don't think Varys wanted the assassination attempt on Dany to succeed.
My interpretation is that he instructed Ser Jorah to save her if he could. But he probably wouldn't have been very upset if she had died.
I actually really liked the time skip idea. Would allowed more character depth and more appropriate build up
With regards to Jon and Ghost in TWOW, have you read Royal Assassin by Robin Hobb (a friend of Martin’s), and if so what do you think of the comparisons?
What about the rumors that Martin was planning to kill Tyrion but changed the script due to Peter Dinklage popularity as the character? I am sure this influenced the swift to "good" Tyrion as well. Great content, thank you!!
Then he must change Daenerys story arc and everyone....this is not how Martin works
I sometimes imagine how hilarious would it be if GRRM was looking at these theories and went like Fuck, Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!
What are your guy’s thoughts on the House of the Dragon teaser?
I think darkstar would kind of be like king von as a rapper… put in so much work in the streets trying to live up to someone just to die in a stupid emotional moment.
The Dragon has 3 souls on it . The ultimate soul tht was sacrificed in blood maigic in ancient valeria , the dragons head and the riders head together become ONE to make 3 heads of the dragon.
Swear everyone seemed to hate Arya killing the Night King but me. I thought it made sense because the NK is the embodiment of death and No One can defeat death.
But not that easy thou,
I can see arya making the last stab to end the night king, but after a long fight with jhon sonw and two more characters at least, then fighting arya....or fighting all at once and arya get him at the end somehow, but what happend in the show is so bad
Peter Dinklage was 1 of 2 actors g.r.r.martins wanted as actors, the other one was sean bean as ned stark