Sleep Token fans are INSANE (wtf)

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    Sleep Token fans are insane! Someone leaked a Sleep Token member's birth certificate, which made him delete his Instagram. Bad Omens fans are also crazy. What's going on??
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  • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
    @FinnMckentyPRMBA  4 місяці тому +13

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    • @tehgurl
      @tehgurl 4 місяці тому

      Thank you.

  • @pancakeburglar9361
    @pancakeburglar9361 4 місяці тому +502

    Most fans respect the band’s anonymity but whoever posted the birth certificate is definitely out of their mind. Just so disrespectful of their privacy and just straight up creepy.

    • @Zarney
      @Zarney 4 місяці тому +20

      Couldn’t agree more, this is also why we can’t have nice things

    • @GG-kn2se
      @GG-kn2se 4 місяці тому +7

      Nobody even knows if it’s true, there is no evidence given that this has happened

    • @XViTNg
      @XViTNg 4 місяці тому +11

      Posting birth certificates would be crazy.
      But Vessel and 2 identity is easy to find - you don’t need birth certs 😂
      I think a lot of us figured out who vessel is cause we were hoping to find other bands he’s been in. Not because we really care “who he is”

    • @NoNameTesla
      @NoNameTesla 4 місяці тому

      You say it wasn’t a fan but this is 100% a fan that did this. That’s a large portion of the fan base who are like this. I say this as a fan

    • @Pauline_Lily
      @Pauline_Lily 4 місяці тому

      It was never posted. Stop believing lies

  • @Szaam
    @Szaam 4 місяці тому +108

    I love the idea of a woman in her 30s stumbling across this video and being reminded of the MCR fan fiction she wrote as a teenager

    • @johnb.shakoor2352
      @johnb.shakoor2352 3 місяці тому +2

      Jesus im getting old. When black parade came out i was in 8th grade and now im a fully grown adult with 2 kids lol

  • @shellbournian
    @shellbournian 4 місяці тому +119

    imagine if Sleep Token was just a really elaborate ad for LifeLock

    • @vladtheinhaler8940
      @vladtheinhaler8940 4 місяці тому +1

      Now that would be interesting.

    • @MyPPSad
      @MyPPSad 4 місяці тому +5

      This is officially canon in the lore

    • @mikey13086
      @mikey13086 4 місяці тому +3

      They got a promising career as matress salesmen after they are done.

    • @scottpoyer5678
      @scottpoyer5678 4 місяці тому

      I'll be waiting for the Sleep Token social security numbers on the side of a truck.

  • @AEtrane
    @AEtrane 4 місяці тому +109

    I don't think fans are crazier than before, I think social media has given them unfettered access to way more information. Now their insane assclownery has no limits.

    • @rubybaby7320
      @rubybaby7320 4 місяці тому

      No, people are crazier. Our kids are taught in school that morals depend on the situation and that there are no over arching truths. Many have bought into the 200+ gender theory and believe that humans have magically changed (maybe through hair dye?)

    • @dash-x
      @dash-x 4 місяці тому +10

      Bingo! The husband and I were just talking about this. In the 90s it would be some special about “Johnny from Cincinnati, the local kiss fan!” And their house would be floor to ceiling kiss merch. People in their fandom would all know Johnny and if your looking for something he’d probably be the one to talk to.
      Now with social media we can communicate far easier and with the clear web even, information is at our fingertips. There’s always that *ONE* person without boundaries sadly.

    • @Andjelka99
      @Andjelka99 4 місяці тому +10

      I was also surprised how some people are acting like there were never crazy fans before. It was just different form but there were always crazy behaviors

    • @rebekahcarter8120
      @rebekahcarter8120 4 місяці тому +1

      Exactly this!

    • @Im_alivexx
      @Im_alivexx 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank u!!

  • @photobearcmh
    @photobearcmh 4 місяці тому +166

    I went to a meet and greet at a Bad Omens show, primarily just to get a good spot on the rail. Noah was so clearly uncomfortable and instead of people just walking up shaking hands and getting a picture, these folks were asking them to pose and directing them like they were dolls. It was really gross. Do people not get these are human beings, not props for your IG? Yech. The whole thing was just really creepy.

    • @GG-kn2se
      @GG-kn2se 4 місяці тому +7

      Could he not tell them he didn’t want to pose?

    • @RudolfHorvath
      @RudolfHorvath 4 місяці тому +20

      @@GG-kn2se Yeah, and then there would be posts all over the internet that he was acting like a prick because he didn't let these spoiled children take selfies with him.

    • @evilervcowart6234
      @evilervcowart6234 4 місяці тому +6

      Devil's Advocate, here...
      If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.

    • @evilervcowart6234
      @evilervcowart6234 4 місяці тому +1

      Devil's Advocate, here...
      If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.

    • @evilervcowart6234
      @evilervcowart6234 4 місяці тому +1

      Devil's Advocate, here...
      If I'm paying thousands of dollars to attend a band's Meet & Greet (Sleep Token typically charges between $1,000-$5,000) I expect to treated as a VIP. Didn't wanna be asked to pose a certain way but sure didn't mind "cashing those big checks", I bet.

  • @jaredhicks1370
    @jaredhicks1370 4 місяці тому +62

    I remember an interview with Corey Taylor, he was talking about how in the early days people would follow them trying to see them unmasked or snap secret pics of them. I gotta disagree Finn, that was weird back then too and it's weird now with Sleep Token. Ain't the music more important than who is behind a mask?

    • @Frederick0220
      @Frederick0220 4 місяці тому +5

      His point is silly too. There was no social media in 1999-2001 when Slipknot was starting out

    • @joshguy5221
      @joshguy5221 4 місяці тому

      Craig the only guy that still is mysterious.

    • @kidneystonermusic
      @kidneystonermusic 4 місяці тому +2

      It should be, but Sleep Token is more about image and gimmicky than the music

    • @JB-qy1gx
      @JB-qy1gx 4 місяці тому

      ​@@kidneystonermusicthat's insane to even say 😂

    • @kidneystonermusic
      @kidneystonermusic 4 місяці тому

      @@JB-qy1gx you know it's true. If they were dudes in black t shirts, no one would listen to them.

  • @FLmetalhead
    @FLmetalhead 4 місяці тому +39

    I remember, growing up, loving the mystery of a band that I liked without having social media and ways to follow them. We don’t need to know everything. The mystery is fun.

    • @PSZEMKI
      @PSZEMKI 4 місяці тому +2

      If i knew they identities ot would ruin the band for me

    • @evank9847
      @evank9847 4 місяці тому +1

      @@PSZEMKI weird but ok. Usually music/ musicians creating said music is what makes the band, but sure.

    • @PSZEMKI
      @PSZEMKI 4 місяці тому

      @@evank9847 im not saying it makes the band but their music hita different if i dont know who they are. Its just music by someone who only care about making music and not fame

  • @robertbeecroft5570
    @robertbeecroft5570 4 місяці тому +120

    Considering most of their hardcore fan base seems to be typical TikTok/reddit users, I’m not surprised about this at all. I used to say hardcore Harry Potter fans are the most emotionally pathetic people I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with. That was before I discovered TikTok and Reddit.

    • @M75248
      @M75248 4 місяці тому +13

      Can't have any privacy and peace of mind with all those goons playing online detective

    • @ahorsewithnoname773
      @ahorsewithnoname773 4 місяці тому +1

      As someone who knows very little about Harry Potter other than it was a popular book/film series, I'm curious what makes the hardcore fans so bad? I know JK Rowling is controversial but never heard much about the fanbase.

    • @M75248
      @M75248 4 місяці тому +7

      @@ahorsewithnoname773 for example many hardcore HP fans take their supposed "households" so seriously it's like a zodiac sign to them. If you're not Gryffindor then don't dm me 💀 that and very destructive behaviour towards other fans.
      It's just fanatics replacing their lives and personality with fiction

    • @shannoncrisp911
      @shannoncrisp911 4 місяці тому +2

      Well said

    • @Glory_to_the_undead_King
      @Glory_to_the_undead_King 4 місяці тому

      Have you met Britney Spears fans? Holy shit!

  • @brianalmeida1964
    @brianalmeida1964 4 місяці тому +33

    Apparently, the person who leaked all this info on band members is named Anne and has stated in the past that they are not a Sleep Token fan. They have been threatening online to do this for a while now. Who in their right mind wastes all that effort and time gathering all this info and then posting it for something that they aren't even a fan of!

    • @chrisg9573
      @chrisg9573 4 місяці тому

      This is what the Internet is and has been for a long time, people bitching about things they claim to despise.

    • @Im_alivexx
      @Im_alivexx 4 місяці тому

      @@unbeatable617that’s what I’m saying cant you go to jail for this!

    • @Bonerboy205
      @Bonerboy205 4 місяці тому +3

      Birth certificates are public documents

    • @bottomofastairwell
      @bottomofastairwell 4 місяці тому

      @@Im_alivexx i sure as hell hope so

    • @clayfoster8234
      @clayfoster8234 4 місяці тому

      @@Bonerboy205no it’s death certificates that are.

  • @groadytoady4292
    @groadytoady4292 4 місяці тому +61

    Absolutely ghoulish behavior

  • @Squiddy97
    @Squiddy97 4 місяці тому +20

    I just hope we never have another Dimebag incident. 🥺 People need to just chill and join the tunes.

  • @DaverSleeps
    @DaverSleeps 4 місяці тому +82

    The real fans of the band would never do something like this, we respect the band’s wishes to remain anonymous, these people are a different breed, not fans

    • @Chill-mm4pn
      @Chill-mm4pn 4 місяці тому +8

      These people have a disturbing parasocial relationship with the band.

    • @SDREHXC
      @SDREHXC 4 місяці тому +12

      People who call themselves “real fans” are a couple short hops away from being the type of person that would do this lmao

    • @Bigchinckalishious
      @Bigchinckalishious 4 місяці тому +1

      I just looked up they’re identity’s like a normal person

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 4 місяці тому

      Guarantee it was a newsite after a story!

    • @darrenthetuber743
      @darrenthetuber743 4 місяці тому

      The band Galactic Empire can sleep soundly as nameless Star Wars cosplayers with some sweet shredding

  • @Breadmakerc
    @Breadmakerc 4 місяці тому +64

    They should go full garage rock and become “The Sleep Tokens”

    • @pekerhed101
      @pekerhed101 4 місяці тому +18

      They should go full ranchero and become "Fichas de Sueño"

    • @M75248
      @M75248 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@pekerhed101Recipiente (Formerly Vessel): ¡ADOREN!

    • @joeytocd
      @joeytocd 4 місяці тому

      Ascensiónismo. 😂 ​@@pekerhed101

    • @todd_halfacre
      @todd_halfacre 4 місяці тому

      This : Be amazing

    • @jeffreyramsaur796
      @jeffreyramsaur796 3 місяці тому

      Like Asking Alexandria 😢

  • @CountGremlin
    @CountGremlin 4 місяці тому +23

    Finn's Alex Jones impression is not bad 😂

  • @jakegenocide
    @jakegenocide 4 місяці тому +21

    Cute aggression is not a recognized, psychological disorder, it is a thing that happens, but it isn't a mental illnesses, disorder, or condition.

    • @jakegenocide
      @jakegenocide 4 місяці тому

      It's caused by the dopamine release from the brain perceiving a reward while the serotonin builds from the positive emotions of seeing something cute. It's an evolutionary trait, that 50% of people will experience.

    • @kdean509
      @kdean509 4 місяці тому +1

      Just like Isla Fishers character in Wedding Crashers

  • @sarahcheever2229
    @sarahcheever2229 4 місяці тому +15

    People idolize band members and forget that they're human. Concert etiquette is in the trash now too. They're about to ruin concerts and music as we know it. Who in their right mind would invade someone's privacy like that.. it's honestly disgusting. I don't even listen to sleep token but if this is true, my heart just sinks for them.

    • @leolapennington264
      @leolapennington264 4 місяці тому

      Thank you!!! Concert etiquette has been deteriorating for a hot minute but now I won't even go near the pit because it's just frikkin rude now.

  • @Nailbombb
    @Nailbombb 4 місяці тому +133

    Not really a fan of them but this shouldn’t have happened to them. They don’t deserve this

    • @IbrahimMuhammad_114
      @IbrahimMuhammad_114 4 місяці тому +1

      They don’t observe this

    • @OptimusNug
      @OptimusNug 4 місяці тому +9

      @@serafaus dude, it’s entertainment. Thats like blaming Josh Brolin if he got harassed because Thanos snapped away Iron Man. Crazy people’s actions don’t get justified because they failed to recognize entertainment.

    • @sarahcheever2229
      @sarahcheever2229 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@OptimusNugexactly. 👏👏👏

    • @Im_alivexx
      @Im_alivexx 4 місяці тому +4

      ⁠@@serafausit’s not a cult they are dressing up cause it’s for entertainment and it’s apart of their band image.

    • @GG-kn2se
      @GG-kn2se 4 місяці тому

      @@Im_alivexxDo they have that as a disclaimer anywhere? Do they say this themselves?

  • @KMFDM781
    @KMFDM781 4 місяці тому +26

    This is what happens when a band like Sleep Token or MCR is accepted by a more mainstream audience. I hate to say it because it's cringe af, but people who are into pop music do this kinda crap. Metalheads or people into heavy music don't generally act creepy over bands and band members. It's when the music and bands start getting the attention of teenagers and more pop minded kids that this starts happening.

    • @purrpocalypse
      @purrpocalypse 4 місяці тому +6

      This is what happens when your supposedly evil cult band actually sounds like Imagine Dragons with a british vocalist that somehow sings with an American country accent.

    • @Im_alivexx
      @Im_alivexx 4 місяці тому +3

      It was the same with PTV too so many girls wrote fan fics on the members

    • @chrisjohnson1387
      @chrisjohnson1387 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@purrpocalypseahhh so it's the bands fault this is happening to them... They should have known from the beginning and instead made music that you liked...

    • @purrpocalypse
      @purrpocalypse 4 місяці тому +3

      @@chrisjohnson1387 That would have been cool. I was mostly memeing though, but they do have a very generic sound that I don't understand the appeal of.

    • @chrisjohnson1387
      @chrisjohnson1387 4 місяці тому +2

      @@purrpocalypse luckily there's also bands like Gaerea and Imperial Triumphant for those who prefer a heavier sound. I love the diversity 🙂

  • @xxenthusedgames1540
    @xxenthusedgames1540 4 місяці тому +21

    I'm not even a sleep token fan but i hate this whole situation. It's ridiculous that people can't be anonymous and do what they love. Anyone who doxxes anyone should honestly do some jail time cause that shit can get people killed (looking at you sssniperwolf)

    • @SirMaski
      @SirMaski 4 місяці тому +3

      The fact people can get exposed for doxxing and face no repercussions is absolutely ridiculous.
      Those same doxxers would be the ones crying and DEMANDING justice if it were to happen to them

    • @xxenthusedgames1540
      @xxenthusedgames1540 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SirMaski i 100% agree. It makes no sense at all. It's literally the biggest reason why I've never tried to get big on youtube or twitch or anything

    • @monirogue1570
      @monirogue1570 4 місяці тому +1

      People are mad about this. I wouldn't be surprised if they already know who they are and are giving them hell. The internet can be a ruthless, unforgiving place. And if someone is perceived as being deserving of hatred there's always those who feel vilified in being willing to take it too far.

    • @chrisjohnson1387
      @chrisjohnson1387 4 місяці тому +3

      And then you get those people that blame the band for the way they sound...they imply the band brought it on themselves I guess

    • @monirogue1570
      @monirogue1570 4 місяці тому

      @@chrisjohnson1387 just shows how truly disgusting people choose to be rather than understanding, reasonable and compassionate.

  • @valerierodriguez8561
    @valerierodriguez8561 4 місяці тому +11

    Obsessive fans have always been a thing, but the internet has exacerbated their existence and intentions. Bjork's stalker comes to mind

  • @tonepursuit7110
    @tonepursuit7110 4 місяці тому +14

    Omg! I thought you were guna say they maybe leaked a photo of their face or something but birth certificate is a whole other creep level!!

  • @scottpoyer5678
    @scottpoyer5678 4 місяці тому +5

    In previous generations it was common to not even know what a band looked like, forget anything actually personal. Now, with everyone having so much easy access to information it has created a feeling from some people that nothing should be inaccessible. It's crazy that I've watched the death of privacy in my lifetime.

  • @epusion
    @epusion 4 місяці тому +10

    If the birth certificate leak is real, why is everyone assuming it was leaked by a fan and not just a troll?

    • @claytonmitchell5685
      @claytonmitchell5685 4 місяці тому +7

      That’s what actually happened, apparently. The person claimed they weren’t a fan and seemed to have malicious intent behind leaking the birth certificate, not creepy obsessive fan energy

  • @MrGreenman447
    @MrGreenman447 4 місяці тому +14

    When I started listening to Sleep Token in 2018, I never expected this level of insanity 😂

    • @ratskraad5890
      @ratskraad5890 4 місяці тому +4

      He trying to flex he heard then first 😂

    • @dannyatx
      @dannyatx 4 місяці тому

      @@ratskraad5890cuz it is the fans are weird now 😭

  • @StarskysBookshelf
    @StarskysBookshelf 4 місяці тому +49

    I am so glad we’re talking about this being weird. Back in my days I when I was a fan of MCR and the bisexual innuendos was a real thing amongst the teen girls. It was creepy then and it’s still creepy now, especially when things like doxing is really becoming a very real scary thing. It never ends well. If ST is doing their shenanigans for a new album or single, or pulling a Ghost rebranding themselves. I am here for it and I’ll be excited for their next project. If they did have a psycho stalker, I hope they have pretty good lawyers and they will figure it out.

  • @blackbombtattoo1277
    @blackbombtattoo1277 4 місяці тому +3

    Leo Faulkner - Vocals
    Adam Pedder - Drums
    Dave Ball - Bass
    Rhys Griffiths - Guitar

  • @LeXontr
    @LeXontr 4 місяці тому +60

    How the fans destroy the things they love is tragic. You could see it from time away something would go wrong since it's has become a CULT.

    • @LeXontr
      @LeXontr 4 місяці тому +5

      @@serafaus Same. Still love their music but the fanbase damn they are TOOL level bad.

    • @M75248
      @M75248 4 місяці тому +5

      It's always the crazy ones who ruin all the fun. ST fans became so parasocial they can't draw the line anymore

    • @LeXontr
      @LeXontr 4 місяці тому +4

      @@M75248 It's just sad. Love embrace support your favourite bands NO DOUBT. Don't worship them and get addicted to them though. That's where ST fans crossed the line. They turned love to obsession.

    • @LeXontr
      @LeXontr 4 місяці тому +2

      @@serafaus No words to describe this.

    • @Im_alivexx
      @Im_alivexx 4 місяці тому +2

      Nah fr fans did this with All Time Low back then they founded Alex’s house and left gifts and same with Melanie Martinez fans doxxed her then she had to move.

  • @raymndmark
    @raymndmark 4 місяці тому +10

    "its only a matter of time until someone gets hurt" this is exactly how ive felt about the tswift insanity. Unfortunately im fearful we may end up coming to the point of another John Lennon type situation.

    • @ANYHOO0
      @ANYHOO0 4 місяці тому +2

      Christie Grimmie...

    • @NobodyAwsum
      @NobodyAwsum 4 місяці тому +2

      Dimebag Darrell...

    • @NobodyAwsum
      @NobodyAwsum 4 місяці тому +1

      Xxxtentacion

    • @zaynes5094
      @zaynes5094 3 місяці тому

      @@NobodyAwsumAnd then it was Christie Grimmie. The psycho dude who was military and went AWOL and the dude who thought he was her boyfriend of long distance but they had been together for 4 years. Like that level of insanity is different.

  • @magnolias646
    @magnolias646 4 місяці тому +5

    The band fic reminds me when Ronnie Radke was on stream reading the description of a fanfic about himself adopting the fic writer from an orphanage. Hearing it out loud makes it all the more strange.

    • @Andjelka99
      @Andjelka99 4 місяці тому +2

      I also love that person who wrote that went and deleted the work when they saw it bothered Ronnie, and was umbarrest in the comments of the video I saw about it

  • @GhostSpydr
    @GhostSpydr 4 місяці тому +3

    My cousins are in a band and they had a stalker pack up and move from another country and show up on their doorstep like 2 years ago so he could be with one of them.
    Fans can be completely unhinged.

    • @zaynes5094
      @zaynes5094 3 місяці тому

      @GhostSpydr Happened to a K-pop Idol who is loved by many fans. Most are kind but not pushy. These two super obsessed fans though are, far and wide crazy obsessed with anything she does. She noticed he would comment on any posts she'd make on Ig, he would post reacting to her post, he would make videos on YT saying he was coming to visit his 'gf' and I saw one video of his and I thought it was a joke, but the dude is seriously A+ level stalker and just super creepy.
      Her name is Nayeon in Twice btw. I don't like K-pop really, I like Dreamcatcher and that's about it, but her situation is just sad.

  • @InkAndPoet
    @InkAndPoet 4 місяці тому +4

    To answer your question of why someone would do this, my best guess is for bragging rights. To say "haha I get to be the person who publicly uncovered the true identities of Sleep Token!" It's like how J. Jonah Jameson was so adamant on uncovering Spider-Man's identity.

  • @Cymoar
    @Cymoar 4 місяці тому +4

    It’s a shame that Sleep Token’s fan base is being considered toxic now. As a fan of them since Sundowning, I would like to say the whole fan base is not like this. Idk why people can’t just appreciate a band without disturbing them

  • @oldestmate5836
    @oldestmate5836 4 місяці тому +4

    Hell yeah - cool to see you're following your passion with this new program!

  • @rainmaker395
    @rainmaker395 4 місяці тому +4

    I respect them wanting to be anonymous. The bigger slip up was Apple Music using their real names as the song writers when Take me back to Eden was initially released.

  • @baotrangia3981
    @baotrangia3981 4 місяці тому +40

    To be fair, crazy people has always been around, it's just that internet culture and the internet itself embraces this type of behavior and allow these types of people to not face the consequences. In the case of Bad Omens it happened because Noah is a handsome guy. In Sleep Token's case this sounds more like an anti fan trying to ruin the band and the gimmicks (not that it makes any of this acceptable).

    • @ratskraad5890
      @ratskraad5890 4 місяці тому

      Exactly also SP needs to understand that they got big cuz of tik tok

    • @endjentneeringclub
      @endjentneeringclub 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ratskraad5890 not really an excuse for someone to doxx em,

    • @YumiVanherck
      @YumiVanherck 4 місяці тому +1

      Was thinking just that. There have always been unhinged people in any fandom, the internet just gave them more possibilities to do absolutely heinous stuff and even get away with it. I've seen it with a podcast I used to follow not that long ago. Let's just hope the birth certificate thing isn't true

    • @scottsmith198
      @scottsmith198 4 місяці тому

      ​@ratskraad5890 what does that have to do with being doxxed?

  • @fgcfdfjtheslipknotfan432
    @fgcfdfjtheslipknotfan432 4 місяці тому +9

    I HATE DOXXERS!

    • @danteshollowedgrounds
      @danteshollowedgrounds 4 місяці тому +2

      SAME.

    • @fgcfdfjtheslipknotfan432
      @fgcfdfjtheslipknotfan432 4 місяці тому +2

      @@danteshollowedgrounds IF I SAW THE DOXXER IN PUBLIC, I WOULD CALL THE COPS!
      WOULD YOU IF YOU SAW THE DOXXER?

    • @donnienarco144
      @donnienarco144 4 місяці тому +2

      SAME.

    • @danteshollowedgrounds
      @danteshollowedgrounds 4 місяці тому +1

      @@fgcfdfjtheslipknotfan432 I mean yeah that all depends but like they're usually online or behind a screen from where I take it and see.

  • @cyclonus83
    @cyclonus83 4 місяці тому +3

    Man, I don't think I've ever actually seen my birth certificate

  • @danjackson1930
    @danjackson1930 4 місяці тому

    I honestly love your idea of a coaching program! Would love it if there was something to help bands with marketing and touring. I’m the vocalist for 2 bands, one of them, Rhythm of Descent, would love some coaching in those areas for example! Finn, I could totally see you doing this type of helping/teaching too! Would love to hear what you think!

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  4 місяці тому

      Thank you! That’s a bit outside my area of expertise but hit up my good friend Jesse Cannon for that www.jessecannon.com/consulting

  • @Sk84Dayz17
    @Sk84Dayz17 4 місяці тому +3

    Unfortunately their identities were/is going to come out at some point. Either by themselves or the fans. The internet made it easy for stalkers to look things up. We will know all of their names, where they grew up and who their friends are by the end of the year. Im actually surprised the band didn’t assume that was going to happen in the first place

    • @CMill78
      @CMill78 4 місяці тому +2

      Who they are and where they're from has been online for years.

    • @198clm
      @198clm 4 місяці тому

      Thing is - a simple google search will tell you who they all are. I don’t really get why someone would feel the need to find out more than just their names

  • @TankTheTech
    @TankTheTech 4 місяці тому +6

    God damn I hate that you compared me to Alex Jones, but man… I’ll accept that one. 😂

  • @Pigdestroyer666
    @Pigdestroyer666 4 місяці тому +7

    I really hope this didnt happen and that they are just coincidentally hyping up for some new PR. Love this band so much.

    • @evank9847
      @evank9847 4 місяці тому

      Why put on a clown show just for publicity? Good music speaks for itself, shouldn’t need to do all this extra shit with anonymity to keep people interested.

  • @dancoversmusic
    @dancoversmusic 4 місяці тому +6

    That Alex Jones moment needs to be a short 😂😂😂

  • @teaguecogdill1473
    @teaguecogdill1473 4 місяці тому +3

    I can’t with this!!! This is so terrible! We aren’t all this way I swear 😢

  • @danteshollowedgrounds
    @danteshollowedgrounds 4 місяці тому +5

    I'm not gonna lie I probably would have deleted all of my social medias too if that happened... The whole Kpop & Corpse Husband phase is just unfortunate too.

  • @cressfresh99
    @cressfresh99 4 місяці тому +4

    Finn: I don't really know why someone would do this or if it even really happened.
    Also Finn: *showcases examples of how insane and stalkerish some fans can be* 😂

  • @iskandertime747
    @iskandertime747 4 місяці тому +1

    When I was a teenager (pre internet) we had like 5 photos of The Misfits. And that's all we had.

  • @callum2463
    @callum2463 4 місяці тому +3

    As a huge sleep token fan, I fucking hate sleep token fans

  • @nickudeschini4812
    @nickudeschini4812 4 місяці тому +3

    I wish this was a metal thing but sadly I've seen this kind of thing happening everywhere. Terminally online people just don't respect boundaries the way people used to.

    • @bottomofastairwell
      @bottomofastairwell 4 місяці тому

      it's not even that people dont' respect boundaries like they used to. cuz even way back when, musicians like elvis had crazy ass stalkers.
      i think the problem is that with social media and the internet, more people than ever have unfettered access to everyone else, so you see way more of the crazy shit.
      cuz in the past, if you were that crazy, you'd have to go and follow them IRL. now you can stalk people online and doxx them. it's so much easier to be an unhinged asshole with the internet and completely disregard other people's boundaries

  • @ninjaninjanesisninja
    @ninjaninjanesisninja 4 місяці тому +4

    Imo knowing their identities doesn't actually change anything, they're still Vessel, II, III and IV. But leaking their personal documents is completely disgusting and would be no matter what artist it happened to. Sleep Token as a lot of complete fangirls, who fawn over them the same way we emo kids fawned over Warped Tour bands in early 2010's. At least in the 2010's, we mostly kept our weird thoughts and ideas to our own little corner of the internet. I think with the rise of TikTok and especially Sleep Token's popularity with "The Summoning" on the app, fans find them very sexual and think it's okay to go absolutely feral for them. I've had to leave several Facebook group because of the cringy, gross sexualization of the band members. The boys do somewhat encourage it with their on-stage antics, but I'm afraid that's making the fans feel like they're entitled to do and think whatever their want regarding the band in broad daylight. And they no longer just keep it to their own little corner of the web.

    • @monirogue1570
      @monirogue1570 4 місяці тому +2

      You make a great point with that! They do have a sexual nature to their act and their music. But that's similar to the case of: if she was wearing a mini skirt and showing off her body did she deserve to be raped? I mean hopefully everyone would agree no. Being sexually appealing and even flaunting it does not excuse being abused/mistreated. However, we both know there's plenty of people who think if they're "asking for it" they deserve whatever happens. We actually see people defending that "logic" all the time. And I do think we are seeing this behavior in much of the fanbase. So many people women and men alike want to jump their bones and it's palpable. But these men are here to tour, make music, and make money... not sleep with all their fans LMAO. It's always been insane to me that people think it's okay to treat others so poorly with no respect.

  • @faerie2007
    @faerie2007 4 місяці тому +2

    I don’t think this is where things are going. Things have already been this way. There are always going to be crazy people that infiltrate a fandom and cross boundaries. They do not represent the majority, though, and never will. Crazy people , just like negative people, will always be the loudest even though they’re the smallest group.

  • @UFOCULTVHS1
    @UFOCULTVHS1 4 місяці тому +6

    they shoukd be worshipping Sleep (the band)

  • @SinnyKitty
    @SinnyKitty 4 місяці тому

    I remember at the peak of PTV and SWS, BMTH, etc other teens keeping tabs on what toothpaste the band members used and what they're favorite things were, what birthmarks they have on their body and other weird personal details I feel only their personal friends/family should know. I always thought it was too extra and creepy that all that stuff was on the Internet like Tumblr etc

  • @opart
    @opart 4 місяці тому +2

    Would youtube please stop suggesting anything about Sleep Token?

  • @shulasassi
    @shulasassi 4 місяці тому

    Kiss went through something similar back in the 70s. They went to great lengths to not get photographed without their make-up on, so you'd occasionally see a news story where a fan was hanging off the balcony at a hotel trying to get a pic of them without the facepaint.

  • @kyllianharper2064
    @kyllianharper2064 4 місяці тому +2

    Respect and appreciate your takes on this Finn. Definitely a messy situation. In regards to the person saying it “gave them stomach pain”, cut them some slack. They don’t need to “seek help”. Being highly internally upset that your favorite band may have just ended is absolutely a justifiable reason to have a physical reaction, that’s just how emotions affect the body. Of course it would be silly to go beyond this and start to take actual action in response to the news, but I found that specific take a bit reductive of the fanbase as a whole.

    • @monirogue1570
      @monirogue1570 4 місяці тому +1

      My only issue with this video is he seems to take the stance of dissing the fanbase...the people that this news probably hurt the hardest. It's like way to put the salt in the wound by blaming us for something 99.9% of us weren't involved in and we're all upset by lmao. I would never have done something off the wall like this! And yeah what you're describing is often referred to as empathy pain. It's actually a reason a lot of people don't like watching horror/slasher content. It hurts them to watch someone get butchered. This isn't really different than that. That person felt a strong connection to the band and their music, and their body is reacting to the perceived "loss" of that connection much like grieving. It's 100% normal to feel pain while grieving.

    • @joshguy5221
      @joshguy5221 4 місяці тому

      Nah Finns right, at the end of the day is just a fucking band, then again it's just kids.

  • @rubaidaallen2764
    @rubaidaallen2764 4 місяці тому +41

    This is absolutely ridiculous. WTF? Whoever did this needs to be prosecuted and punished severely. No one should have their privacy invaded like this. Absolutely unacceptable. I’m not a Sleep Token fan. I’m not familiar with their music and I’m not interested in finding out about it, but as a human being I’m very sorry this has happened.

    • @colonelhstinkmeaner8547
      @colonelhstinkmeaner8547 4 місяці тому +3

      We don't even know if it happened in the first place.

    • @rossh2386
      @rossh2386 4 місяці тому +5

      Loosen the grip on those pearls

    • @nolovedrjones9668
      @nolovedrjones9668 4 місяці тому +3

      @@rossh2386 Grow up

    • @mariposa00
      @mariposa00 4 місяці тому

      Ok calm down

    • @Callon4968
      @Callon4968 4 місяці тому

      If the "leaked" birth certificate is legitimate, then any prosecution runs the risk of truly ending the band's anonymity.
      We saw it with Ghost and Tobias Forge. Ghost was revealed because of the court case. If one member of Sleep Token was revealed through a court case then it would end up being the whole band in the end.
      So right now either Sleep Token reveals it was legitimate (from a safe location) and pressed charges (ending their anonymity) OR they continue to say nothing with the goal being to keep their anonymity while the world wonders if the four birth certificates that were "leaked" are actually legit or not.
      Option 1: Legitimize the Drama
      Option 2: Ignore the Drama

  • @JiggyWilson
    @JiggyWilson 4 місяці тому

    Stephanie Meyer started writing Twilight as MCR fanfiction. She wanted them to be in the movies SO badly. The song "Vampire Money" is about it.

  • @chuckclark3214
    @chuckclark3214 4 місяці тому

    This is part of what makes us human. Some of us just have this in us... It doesn't excuse the behavior, but we all need to know and understand this. There's people out there that obsess over a lot of other people, and do things like this. This has always been a thing, and it will continue to be a thing. There's not really any way to stop it. What do others suggest? We track every single one of these people down, and either shut their lights down forever, or lock them away? We're all "crazy" in one way or another. Some us just happen to understand that this kind of behavior, seen in this video, really ain't ok, but we're stable enough to know that. Others aren't... That was kinda messy, but hopefully whoever reads this gets what I'm saying...

  • @SurgicalStrike41
    @SurgicalStrike41 4 місяці тому +2

    I love Sleep Token, but I have always hated the psychotic fangirl energy the fanbase gives off. We don't want stans in metal

  • @radiomindchatter7994
    @radiomindchatter7994 4 місяці тому

    This happened to Kiss early on..photographers used to stalk them and try to catch them without their makeup...

  • @Everrrrr
    @Everrrrr 4 місяці тому +3

    Man, now I want a 5 hour long video of Finn reading me mall emo Panic at the Disco fanfic Ill listen to as I fall asleep 😂

  • @RanterInShades
    @RanterInShades 4 місяці тому

    Really freaky that this happened the day you posted the Sleep Token video on the main channel.

  • @danteshollowedgrounds
    @danteshollowedgrounds 4 місяці тому +1

    7:24 A lovely impersonation of that madman lol you should have an award or oscar by now.

  • @Cobalt_Colonel
    @Cobalt_Colonel 4 місяці тому

    i feel like its gotta be just all the damn social media and access to information. All a lot of younger people do I just INTERNET & I know when I was really into something, I always wanted to absorb as much info about it as possible.... I think with the ability of virtually unlimited info, combined with social media culture, its making "fans" weird, disrespecful & invasive.. Nothings private anymore and theres practically no limit.

  • @MJ-vd8bj
    @MJ-vd8bj 4 місяці тому +2

    Their whole anonymous gimmick is just as cringe as their new fanbase. Everyone knows their real names at this point lmao

  • @Thatskatermetalgirl
    @Thatskatermetalgirl 4 місяці тому

    This was good. Thank you for doing this and the part about Tank gave me a good 😂😂 because i just watched his vid about it.

  • @iamjatan
    @iamjatan 4 місяці тому +2

    I think music in general has had nutter fans like this for a long time, look at Swifties and going way back The Beatles and Elvis, they all have/had mad cult followings. Maybe we're just seeing more in metal now as it's getting more popular and having it happen to a band like Sleep Token who want anonymity just highlights it more?

  • @Andjelka99
    @Andjelka99 4 місяці тому +2

    NOOO NOT THE MILK FIC BRO WHY, last thing I expected to see/hear today 😭😭

  • @yvettebowles9011
    @yvettebowles9011 3 місяці тому

    Peter Steele posed for playgirl back in the day. I used to have it on my computer. So, it isn't unusual for women to have a picture of some rock stars junk.
    I was however kinda shocked by how easy it is to find it online. I just googled it to see what year the issue was and the first thing that popped up was a link to the entire spread.
    But there's a huge difference between a musician putting themselves out there by posing for a magazine and someone else leaking that type of content nefariously.
    I myself had never heard of this band before yesterday and I am not interested in knowing anything about them.
    There hasn't been a band in years that I have cared to know everything about. Even my favorite bands. I have no idea what the names of even half of Rammstein are. Or Palaye royale. But I understand wanting to know about your favorite bands. I know all the guys names from korn, GNR, Motley Crue etc. Once upon a time, I did care to know. Especially when I was a kid buying all the albums and the magazines. But, never was interested to the point of stalking. I loved Slipknot, but was cool with not knowing who they were. 😂

  • @Frederick0220
    @Frederick0220 4 місяці тому +2

    Of course this didn’t exist with Slipknot. There was no social media in 1999-2001 lol

  • @gigidygigidy6078
    @gigidygigidy6078 4 місяці тому +1

    When I had to get a new copy of my birth certificate I had to go to the county city building and show ID.

  • @DominicDosdos
    @DominicDosdos 4 місяці тому +9

    That was a pretty solid Alex Jones impression - which totally caught me off guard hahahahahaha

  • @dakotakoll-is3rg
    @dakotakoll-is3rg 4 місяці тому

    Wow. 7 years. That's a lot. Good work Finn. Also, time flies

  • @jxntxn1462
    @jxntxn1462 3 місяці тому +1

    This is super random but does anyone remember that old website where people would make fan art of rock bands and upload it? This was back in like 2004 that we would be on there. The whole Slipknot thing reminded me of it...

  • @Jasonmakesvideo
    @Jasonmakesvideo 4 місяці тому

    Somebody's gotta sign the record deal. Also , the royalties have to point to someone.....the whole concept of "doxxing" public information blows my mind

  • @ascenelongforgotten9682
    @ascenelongforgotten9682 4 місяці тому +26

    Moral of the Story: if they're fans of a cult, they're insane lmao

    • @ninjaninjanesisninja
      @ninjaninjanesisninja 4 місяці тому +10

      It is not ACTUALLY a cult, but more of a storytelling gimmick. But I can see how it could seem culty to people, who're not into it.

    • @systemofadownsyndrome7715
      @systemofadownsyndrome7715 4 місяці тому +6

      Like christians

    • @TheNamesFathom
      @TheNamesFathom 4 місяці тому +1

      @@systemofadownsyndrome7715LMAO

    • @microchrist6122
      @microchrist6122 4 місяці тому +5

      @@systemofadownsyndrome7715 Cringe

    • @microchrist6122
      @microchrist6122 4 місяці тому +2

      @@ninjaninjanesisninja cope harder

  • @NateTriplett
    @NateTriplett 4 місяці тому +1

    Possibly worse than leaking a band members birth certificate would be if the leakers were wrong and it was a random guy not involved with the band at all.
    Just Imagine going about your day when a digital mob of fanatics interrupts, possibly harms your entire life for nothing but mistaken identity..

  • @WingZeroGWO
    @WingZeroGWO 4 місяці тому +2

    I think it's pretty obvious and should be said by everyone with a voice in the matter, that whoever engages in this type of behavior IS NOT A FAN. Fandom's respect and protect creators and content. Fandom's don't destroy the thing the claim to enjoy...stop calling these people "fans". They're trolls, trying to ruin the band and their fans' fun.

    • @Rabid-Polyphia-Fan
      @Rabid-Polyphia-Fan 4 місяці тому

      Agreed, This is my take too. However it is possible that there are some irrational unhinged people who think themselves fans but chaos and destruction is what always follows them in their wake. Think: Annie Wilkes of Misery.

  • @delix787
    @delix787 4 місяці тому +2

    How do you even get someone’s birth certificate? 😖

    • @meganwalker27
      @meganwalker27 4 місяці тому +1

      Right, I can't even get a copy of my own without 3 other forms of ID and an appointment with the government.

  • @wadekemmsies7180
    @wadekemmsies7180 4 місяці тому

    I remember this happened to Ghost and didn't hear them throw a fit about it they just kept rollin and made great records

  • @sixsixST2
    @sixsixST2 4 місяці тому +1

    It's the internet... A quick google search will get you their names.

  • @RB-jf5ww
    @RB-jf5ww 4 місяці тому +1

    I actually think this has a wider western society implications. I think this comes from the fact that young men have lost belief in the systems and political apparatus. Peoples identify used to be based largely on national origin and large groups. Ie we were American. However, that has gone away and now we as a group identify more with smaller subcultures that become central to our identify. Young me hav always been the exporter of violence, they will do that but where will it be oriented and for who is the question.

  • @thatbitchashley828
    @thatbitchashley828 4 місяці тому

    Friend of mine is vocalist of a band signed to the same label with most of the same team. He said they're not breaking up.

  • @charles_cody
    @charles_cody 4 місяці тому

    Banksy was outed recently too. So unfortunate.

  • @ColvinAvianBreadline
    @ColvinAvianBreadline 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm jonesin' for a new Tier list!

  • @darlenelucero312
    @darlenelucero312 4 місяці тому

    This is honesty giving Kpop stan…. A lot of Kpop Stan’s have discovered bands like bad omens and sleeptoken
    Not saying it bashing Kpop Stan’s but Kpop artist struggle with this too people leaking airline tickets and seat and fans buying tickets in the same plane. I have so much love for Kpop music and metal but this is clear sign that fans are merging …
    Just respect people the way you want to be respected . I feel like people for get the definition of personal space .

  • @TheEvilKingStan
    @TheEvilKingStan 4 місяці тому +2

    I hate this band but I do feel for them. You could see it coming based on the fanbase online. I know it is probably for their rebrand or whatever, but I'd respect this band so much if they just packed up and told their fans "you don't deserve us."

  • @JonnyFoxx
    @JonnyFoxx 4 місяці тому

    I remember when Hollywood Undead first came around and we all thought it was some anonymous supergroup of dudes from hardcore bands.

  • @JerryO1995
    @JerryO1995 4 місяці тому +1

    This sucks. I hope they don't stop making music or anything after this, but this really sucks and they wouldn't be wrong if they did.

  • @pitpride1220
    @pitpride1220 4 місяці тому

    This kind of thing has been going on with pop stars, rock stars and actors for years. It was just harder to do and see pre internet. Even Neil Peart had a female stalker.

  • @LitithsClaptrap
    @LitithsClaptrap 4 місяці тому +7

    From what I heard, someone found iii's personal Twitch account and they found out more information from there, including the birth certificate. I love Sleep Token, but this is true insanity. People aren't entitled to band members' personal information.

    • @upnorth5716
      @upnorth5716 4 місяці тому

      if you want to be famous/celeb type yes your info will get out there, stop being a stan

  • @LilComedown
    @LilComedown 4 місяці тому

    Goddamnit I watched the LAST sleep token video you made before going TO sleep woke up and this one has been muted

  • @xXxGR33NDR3AMSxXx
    @xXxGR33NDR3AMSxXx 4 місяці тому

    Their UK tax forms were leaked as well. It's just a Google search away

  • @pwntimejamboree8272
    @pwntimejamboree8272 4 місяці тому +1

    As a Sleep Token fan, I couldn’t agree more. This shit is just sad. Just enjoy the music, folks. This shit isn’t serious. Plus, if you really want to know who the guys in ST are, it’s out there without having to resort to this. Shit is so dumb.

  • @caidema
    @caidema 4 місяці тому

    That is truly disturbing

  • @abatedmassofflesh
    @abatedmassofflesh 4 місяці тому +2

    I thought they did it all for the nookie.

  • @ckirk7317
    @ckirk7317 2 місяці тому

    To give a little perspective from an old dude, this same thing happened with Slipknot. From 96-99 Slipknot intended(at least for a time) to try and remain anonymous and fans stalked them trying to get pictures. It wasn't until Stone Sour that Corey and Jim's faces become widely known and then the others members followed. I'm sure the members were known regionally around Iowa from 92< by friends and mic checks at early gigs but yes, people were obsessive and invasive about it back then. The only difference now is there is easier access to information due to the internet. It's always been a crazy fucked up world in which people do crazy fucked up shit. That is one constant about humans.

  • @Cold84
    @Cold84 4 місяці тому +1

    Now that you say it Luke Holland's birth certificate would be an interesting find. What is he hiding?

  • @JiuJitsuM4
    @JiuJitsuM4 4 місяці тому

    7:20 was a superb Alex Jones impersonation lol