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- Rewatching this video... I didnt even cover everything that caused problems for me, I just ranted....
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The Flash has become a side character in his own show and spent the whole season getting beat up
Ikr
@@dazzatv9571 oliver is even worse arrow is pretty much now arrow and friends and arrow is a cameo character
Take a wild guess why? Because the show got woke, promoted Feminism/Girl power, and threw so much agenda and bullshit into it, he became a support character to his WIFE & DAUGHTER! Show is lame now.
@@NWG_DASH It's because it's CW smh.
well lets hope it gets better after the crissis.
"If you name your kids Dawn and Don then you don't like them"
LMAO
mangoflipify
In the Young Justice show their called Dawn and Donnie which is still a like cheesy but far better
@@patrickmcguire7896 well Donnie is just don for short
@@kuroBozi nicknane not short lol
@@kuroBozi don is donnie for short
I think Barry Allen Jr., Henry Joseph Allen, Nora West Allen, and Isabelle Allen are awesome names they have meaning to them.
Truth be told I only stick around for Eobard Thawne
That bastard is my favourite
Aitipse Arthur same lmao.
Dude is a boss. Legit crafted an entire TIME TRAVEL plan just to get out of prison
Personally I loved zoom as a character and villain and s2 is my fav but thawne is fr up there
@@HighDef_Gaming oh absolutely! The guy was a psicopathic monster who would kill anyone, even himself! I also loved when he became black flash
The Wells actor is an act of God.
The flash has gone downhill ever since the writers started sharing a room with the Riverdale writers...makes sense now😂🤦🏾♀️
also team flash keeps acting lika nora will stay on the team forever, they really never want to send her back in the season. Like seriously is nora gonna stay and watch herself be born.
shadesFTW they way the writing was and how the characters were acting I was pretty sure that was the plan.
I don't why I was thinking the same thing while I was watching it and it would've of been super funny seeing herself grow up
Future Trucks type beat
I was cheering when she died
@@vishawnjarvismaximoff3355 Same.... also question
Godspeed= Nora gets him in one episode by her self. Cicada= Takes whole Flash team majority of the season. smh
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
A very early meta Nora without help from team flash/her own team does it-- my mind is still blown
That should’ve been revised. God speed should be the person they fought for a whole season
@@UnrealGemini Facts 🎯
UnrealGemini FAXX
Reverse Flash: so fast that lightning, at the speed of 100,000km/s, appears still to him
Also Reverse Flash: can't react to a floating hamster ball time machine at the speed of a mobility vehicle
Actually that one kinda might be justified, speedsters still get surprised so he might just not have been able to react to it cos he didn't see it coming
@@hameedokeowo3968 it just seems inconsistent with his power level, that someone who is such a haunting figure to the Flash gets one-upped by some guy who opens portals
Dragon_Syndicate_V he has tap in and out of the speedforce to see stuff coming. That’s basically how flashtike works. You can see he taps in and out of the speedforce in the Legends episode where is stands still (out of the speed force) to prevent Black Flash from getting him.
I honestly don’t know but I found it kinda funny getting hit in the head with a giant ball
@@AaronHafeezGFX if he's running super quicc, isn't he in the speedforce then
Godspeed was such a waste of potential in this show
Well after noras deletion they have a chance to revamp godspeed... maybe
He could’ve been the main villain instead of cicada. Cicada was just so trash they were losing to someone who had a power dampening dagger
@@spxms THANK YOU
Sam Gaskamp they turned a major op character into basically a speed force drug addict like zoom. Garbage
Charles Lescoe extremely garbage
You trying to understand the flash timeline is me studying for my exams.
Bro facts. I'm still studying this 😂
You can tell he is slowly loosing his sanity in this video
Oh he completely lost it😂😂😂
slowly?
We all are
Iris: Harry and Harriet? Tom and Tam? Tina and Tino?
Barry: No, stupid. Don and Dawn.
Iris:
Iris: I want a divorce
Barry: *Shocked Pikachu Face*
@@blumouse8539 I have a question for you
@@jarrodedson5441 okay?
I was always thought they could do Nora and henry for the twins
CW: How do we make Iris less annoying?
Nobody: Introduce her and Barry's daughter and make her twice as annoying and dislikable.
CW: Great idea
ong i was rewatching it and she is just sp goddamn annoying and her asking barry why she wanted nora to go to the future is just stupid
I also found the whole thing weird as well like when she was calling them mom and dad. Then Barry and Iris acted like they knew how to parent and the whole thing was weird.
I have a hard time seeing how Nora is even half as annoying as Iris let alone more than.
she cant not be annoying. she's a burden
Exactly my thoughts!!! Omg Nora is unbearable!!!!
*They got rid of the chinstrap*
*AND IT WENT DOWNHILL FROM THERE*
Well, since Nora's timeline has been erased, all the relics of that timeline, including the new suit, should also erase in time, so that's a good reason to believe the show will improve. I mean, there's also Eobard as the antagonist, but more importantly, a new suit chinstrap included will definitely save the show this year
that is big fax
Yea Basically
but they added a jockstrap.
Dell Wilson no the chinstrap removal got us elseworld and into crisis next year, so we are thankful to that
"WeLl, mAybe THaWNe'S plan ISn'T So BAD" - Iris West
CharmingRogue yeah I kept having hope for the show but after she said that and them actually tryna defend the reverse flash I gave up hope for it
“Come on Barry, he only killed your mother and hates you so much that his *entire identity* is being the opposite of you... but there’s good in him.”
“Maybe your decision is bad Barry, like Flashpoint. Maybe you should let Nora stay [and continue to screw up her timeline]”
boom. i know it wont happen but hope writers have guts that someone tells iris how wrong she was when she said thawnes plan isnt so bad. lady have you forgotten your fiance eddies sacrifice? your daughter is now erased coz of you were NOT a good parent
@@mrshmuga9 me to iris: what about your fiance eddie who died coz of thawne?
The real question is how does that guy keep the board up for so long without his arms getting severely sore.
What guy
rdbg mike the guy who’s holding the blackboard
@@rdbgmike2617 really...u Don ass arms under the whiteboard and a shirt under it as we
@@jarrodedson5441 Don't call someone a dumbass with your broken English.
He was perfectly still so he became invisible in eye.
And they never properly set up Caitlin Snow going insane and freezing all of King's Landing......wait, I'm getting my shows mixed up....^_^
@Jack Frost also I hate Nora
I honestly think killer frost was just rlly badly acted 🤷♀️
@@jarrodedson5441 nora or Jessica parker kennedy
TryndaMain no I liked her as kaitlin or Caitlin snow idk but I just don’t like her as killer frost
I can tell you’re ex military. Only a real soldier could continue watching the flash after season 3
🤣🤣
Im not military and i did
Flash is one of my favorite heroes
@@lillith7257 r/whoooosh
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
"We got Cicada right where we want! OOPS! He/she just jumped straight up into the sky and escaped!" *repeat nearly 10 times over the season*
Now that shit was definitely annoying as hell
Corny AF
Exactly shit was annoying asf, i thought savitar was the worst villain🤦🏼♂️
@@dantesenpai007 Cicada wasn't a bad villain.
Grimlord 31 the male cicadas acting was bad and the villain itself was just god awful
You forgot about the fact that Vibe and Gypsy were connected via their powers. Wouldn't she think he died if his powers disappeared.
Stop trying to make sense
Just because they had a connection, doesn't mean that she would die? Where was that ever said?
No he is saying that since Cisco gave up his power that gypsy thinks that Cisco died
CoolChicken_1213 Alright so I may have read that wrong, it still doesn’t change the fact that not only is she on a different earth, she’s also not even in the show anymore.
What is that logic, common sense.
Remember when Iris was all like, "Hey Barry, what about Flashpoint? What about all of your other screwups? Can you see why not all your decisions are good? Maybe you should let Nora stay [and screw up her own timeline]?"
😂😂😂...
For real... That was my biggest frustration with season 5.. That they were just ok letting her stay in her past
Iris only wanted nora there becasue of iris putting that chip in her in the future..Iris is selfish immature spoiled brat who is a terrible actress and now a terribke human being for having an affair with a married man whi has 4kids...sorry allegedly affair.. what a role model canadce...
@@sandracarson2509 ong the firdt episode iris was already like wHy wOuLd YoU wAnT tO sEnD hER hOme it has been stated so many times what could go wrong
@@romanangulo3118 Iris being selfish as usual not caring whether Nora being there fucked up the timeline. Only about trying to make up for how bad of a mother her future self was.
And the flash writers treated Nora like she was a 13 year old girl on the show!
Exactly. I get she's short and looks young but having her act and be treated like an infant was insufferable.
Isn't actress for Nora actually older than Grant Gustin
kzarkage YES
📠
Black SideKick right ???!! But she’s a damn CSI in her time....I was wondering if she was 15 or 21
Nora was the most annoying and INCOMPETENT character that was EVER in the show
At least she was better than Ralph, oh god ralph was dumb, incompetent and gross...
luan tibério she keept telling the future like how hard is to stop when you know youre fucking the timeline is arse
@@luantib Ralph was better this season than season 4
Nah Ralph is great.
secretagentman
Facts
First two seasons of the Flash were amazing. 3 was shaky but 4 & 5 have been horrible. I doubt it will ever recover.
3 was awful mate, 4 was stumbling up a few stairs then 5 took a nap on the railing
Imma stay for days of future past to determine the fate of the show.
the crossover may be good..only that...n just may be
Season 6 has been rlly good so far (till ep 8) season 1 and 2 level I’d say, especially episodes 6 and 7
Flash2x let’s be real. Rewatch Season 1 & 2. They’re not very good. Everything that happens in them is negated. Thawne lives. Meta humans are always about. Killer Frost came to exist in Earth 1.
There isn’t much difference between the writing. You’ve just realised that each season is just season 2 on rerun.
Loved this video, definitely miss how the show used to be in season 1 and 2.
Yeah... nowadays it seems like The Iris and Some Flash😂😂
Rewatching this I didnt even hit all the plot holes when ranting, I just basically lost my mind in this one. Also it was 46 minutes before Dan cut down me rambling at portions lol. What other plot holes are there for this season?
Regarding Joe getting injured... The actor himself got injured. They couldn't really write around a broken back (and they tried, for like 3 episodes he's always sitting down), so they just wrote him off for half the season while he healed.
Get woke go broke.
@@titusorelius9458 🔥
I know it wasn't the best but I was progress and it feels like they are setting up crisis on infinite earth's
Now if that's shit then ...... Fuck
@@leoregulus6432 lol
Literally everything that happened in the finale could have happened 10 episodes ago
Hiro riiight🤦🏼♂️
I mean you ain’t wrong lol
Hiro yes, the writers kept accidentally defeating cicada, and coming up with bullshit so he or her can get away.
UnrealGemini lmao Fr. They could of used the cure so many times but since it has to be a choice dragged on so much
The twins would be from the OG timeline when Barry became the flash in 2020 but Reverse Flash changed it to get home.
Oh yeah I never thought of that
Not really because when barry and Nora talk to reverse flash his seys dawn
You mean the same Reverse Flash from the Original Timeline who killed Barry's mother,that was stuck for 15 years, changed the timeline and would remember the original Flash having twins named Don and Dawn?
They're still trying to stave having Don and Dawn in season 7 by having Nora Allen/XS appear again, & Bart Allen/Impulse appear as Barry's *son* instead of *grandson* -- Like, Jesus, does nobody comic book anymore?? Ah, what am I saying, of course *Hollywood* doesn't comic book! They just Easter egg us to goose their ratings and box office.
Bro the flash literally turned into a college drama, every episode is someone getting offended by the dumbest things then they go to cry about it and someone says “i got this one” then when the time comes for barry to battle someone they decide to help him and also its such a dumb show, for every new thing he learns he goes from having no clue how to do it and then when someone says yeah man we need you to do this i believe, he suddenly learns an entire new talent within the 2 seconds and defeats his enemy like woahhhhh dude so cool, this show has gone to shit and it keeps getting worse, in season 5 it has literally just turned into iris and nora getting mad at barry for being rude or some bs then when he finds out his daughter was working with the man who killed his mother and he puts her in the jail to think for a bit iris goes ballistic and decides she needs to do everything cause she is so smart, this show has turned into everyone but the flash having an important role cause apparently Iris is a super coach now who knows literally everything and thinks she fucking owns the place then u got cisco complaining about something new every episode then there is caitlyns shitty acting as well as joe and whoever the fuck his new wife is and then there is ralph who I actually enjoy, him and sherloque are the only people i enjoy because ralph is also joking around and sherloque is actually the only smart one who knows anything and he makes everything better, they just need to end the show like they did with arrow because its just straight horseshit at this point, they are trying to hard and its just not working
Also they did the same thing that season 4 of Supergirl did by having aliens vs human now the flash season 5 was metahuman vs humans and also this season keep doing alot of feminism stuff that I didn't like but long story short yeah the flash really needs to end smh.
@@clarkkent4565 nah flash will have a new showrunner and everything is gonna be good if you don't like it the don't fucking watch it and don't hate on it
Totally agreed.
Agreed
@@thaboi8324 If someone doesn't "hate" on the show then the show gets no criticism outside of reviewers.
God season 5 was friggin horrible... I'm still salty about the misuse of Godspeed...
Bro me to me to after I got so hyped
Edward Cruz up to red death now
@@urjustpvsservant2893 they better not fuck Red Death up
I wanted him to appear but it's funny that people kept asking for him and got pissed. Some times it's best to ask things like this
@@DubExp truth!!
Dan died in 1987. While holding that white board. Godspeed young man
Ralph was really the best part of season 5. He was fun, and friendly. Like a mate you want to hang out with. At the same time he was smart and proved himself to be a great detective.
That didn't age well
@@zekeshrull4201 Cancel culture cancels because canceling gives those who cancel the closest feeling to the thrill of cancelling one’s life permanently.......
(Say that 5 times fast)
Rip Sawyer....and pepe le pew(who btw the cat was feeling him when he didn’t smell), and so many more
@@namesdontmattergaming2756 Dont get me wrong Ralph was a good character
How can I do a French accent and not offend?
I can't.
LOL
The actress that plays Nora West-Allen is actually older than Grant Gustin
I know right? It's actually kinda hilarious.
EpicACL5 wHAT.
Da fuq
Watch her in black sails .... u won't look at her as the sweet girl she portrays as Nora
@@davidanderson2102 I'd still call her no pull out material
Jessica Parker Kennedy (Nora) is 34yrs old lmao She's older than Grant *and* Candice
Damn! She's aged so well. They could've just made her a 'teenager' anyway. It would've made more sense
Gettin real tired of older people playing fricken teenagers
It’s a good thing that clearly she isn’t a teenager, she’s supposed to be in her early 20’s
alexander smith then why is she written like one
She is nice
Season one, "We are only holding the metas until we can find a cure."
Season 5, "We need their permission to give them the cure."
Yes let's give murderers the option to take away their evil powers.
When supergirl has the best season in the entire arrowverse you know you messed it up.
Damn it Barry.
Legends of tomorrow
@@isaacwoodward9611 LOT are not in the gag.
ritik sharma Well shit. Guess I shouldn’t mention Black Lightning as that show takes place outside of the Arrowvwrse
@@BigK13372 really? Wow didnt know that i havent watched the last few crossovers
😂😂😂😂
Some say Dan is still holding the white board
😆 😆
Poor Dan his arms must be ripped though
Every episode starts: Barry has argument with character B (mostly always justified).
End of Episode: Barry apologises to Character B even if Barry to be proven right.
They made him so weak.
According to this show everyone, man or woman other than Iris is portrayed as wrong even when they're right and Iris is treated as always right. And whenever any other character does wrong they're called out on it but the idea that Iris could do something wrong is treated as impossible even though she can and has done plenty of wrong.
i think Noras entrance (if it had to be there) should've been handled similar to how Joe handles Wally. When he was first introduced, Joe was trying to prove to him that he was a friend not his father, but then he changed his POV and started treating him as a kid that he cares for while still being a parent.
I just started watching season five and I really hope they Schway over and over.
It's such a great slang word and it doesn't make me want to set myself on fire.
the only tv show that ever executed good use of the word 'schway' was batman beyond
It's been a long time since I saw Batman Beyond. I never knew they used the word "Schway"
Schway and Sharp makes me want to fucking kill myself. Those words are the only thing that make me want to pull out a gun and shoot the windows
*Audience:* "Savitar is the worst villain in this series, bar none!"
*The Thinker:* "Oh please. Carry my alcoholic beverage _pretentiously quotes an author_ "
*Cicada:* "Hold my beer."
*She-cada:* "No, hold mine."
Barry and Iris naming their kids Dawn and Don: No, hold ours.
The thinker could've been the g.o.a.t , but the writers blew it
Again to uphold the tradition: "OMG you're everywhere!!" I'm sure we will meet again soon.
@@bradwoods371 he could never replace Zoom
I love you
Jessica Parker Kennedy is 34 looks 22 and made her act 17-19 that is certainly not schway
Chris Gonzalez she’s 34? Wow
.... Wow, that's schwarbage
Nah she acted 13-15
@@donttagmeinyourreply1304 nah she acted like 7-10 literally crying like a baby
@@Jake.Nash629 lol the actress did a good job tho
Season 1: 😃
Season 2: 😏
Season 3: 😑
Season 4: 😧
Season 5: 😐🔫 kill me
Andrew Belanger Hear dat. Cj.
To me season 4 was terrable this one is a little better than season 4
I liked three
@@keyhaddock8909 Opposite for me, Season 4 seemed better than 5 to me. Tbh I barely even remembered stuff that happened in 5, but 4 I remember every single bus meta...and Ralph’s development saved it for me...also Iris was a bit annoying but people blew it a bit out of proportion
Season 6: :/
S7: :\/:)
"Let's do another Cicada" 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂. Rewinded so many times for a hard laugh
Anyone else wonder how almost everyone in team flash knows how to use a satellite?😶
Team training ✌🏾
This is the only channel where I can see someone else have the same frustration that I have with the damn cw hero shows. Thanks Benny😂
"This is the only challenge where I can see someone else have the same frustration"
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Forreal.. I get reamed out every time I voice my opinion on Pagey's channel. Nothing but stupid kids there
@Outlaw, if you say that, then I don't think you watch airrickreloaded. He's probably the most nit picky about the Arrowverse
secretagentman you right I haven’t checked out the channel but I am now
17:10 answer: the show suddenly became Days of Future Past
Cicada is one of the easiest villains they have ever had, just a get a normal gun and shoot him. Joe could have ended Cicada the first time he met him.
Why the Flash season 5 failed?
+Too many you let them get a way moments
+Too many can I talk with you in a hallway
+Too many MaIRISUE and Nora
+Too many forced drama and romance
+"You can't cure the villain because that wasn't what he wants even when he killed people with no remorse" this line.
+Cicada is a boringass villain
+They keep milking Tom Cavanaugh like a dry cow
+Cringy dialogue
Omg I couldn’t have said it better myself… the “can I talk you in the hallway” one got me weak 😂😂😂
That's CW for ya
@Taka, There are three points that I do not agree one. Season 5 actually didn't have any hallway moments, aside for maybe one. Season 4 was far more guilty of that. Also, I didn't remember much forced drama or romance. That moment in the future where Nora confronts her mom about the speed suppressing, is one of the best moments on the show. Also, Sherloque was annoying at first, but he became one of the best characters in the show through his detective work.
Takatora Toudou Yeah allow the villain to have his powers even though he’s a serial killer who’s murdering innocent people, OUR HEROES EVERYBODY!
I love your rants. Haha Were always on the sam page.
Remember at the start of Season 4 when Barry came out of the Speedforce, and then was held in a cell, but then broke out of the power dampenening cell to save Iris? Why haven't they touched that plot point that he can break through power dampening systems ever again?
JP that what’s you call a plot hole. CW writers either ignore those completely or bring them up way later.
It wasn’t dampening his powers they just put him in there so he wouldn’t write on the walls. But the real plot point is who gave Barry the marker when they found him. 😂
@@AaronHafeezGFX hmm i'd have to rewatch it but im pretty sure they had to contain him there to keep him safe
JP there goal also was for to get Barry’s memory back. I don’t think he would’ve been able to write those speedforce symbols without connection to the speedforce.
@@AaronHafeezGFX he's already had the memory of those glyphs imprinted by the speedforce. Doesnt need to maintain a connection to write them. Otheriwse he would have gone completely normal if they just cut off that comnection
Season 1:👌🏻
Season 2:👏🏻
Season 3:🤔
Season 4:😰
Season 5:🤮
Even Dio is displeased.
Season 5 was good
@@thaboi8324 only the final episode was good the villains were lazy and boring the writing took a massive hit the running looked fake the effects were abysmal and the suit was....well I'm sure you saw
@@yaboiguzma4103 yes that's all true but it was not even close to as bad as season 4 was
I loved Season 5 I wish Cicada was more accurate but it’s easily better than Season 3 and specially that garbage season 4
The Cure: It's a testament to how bad a plot is handled when you can legitimately say "X-men The Last Stand" did it better... I think I choked on a bit of vomit just typing that.
I still don't understand why they had to use the dagger to suppress Reverse Flash's power. Don't they already have technologies for that?
Yes, but you have to be able to catch him first, the dagger would take his powers so you can catch him and then keep him de-powered once you have. Granted they could have put some power dampening tech on him after he was caught instead of strapping the dagger to him full time but meh.
@@stephenschneekloth1535 using the dagger to "CATCH" him, great plan. Not putting a chip in him like Nora (proof that crap exists) or something else to bind his speed VERY STUPID!
@@regiman222 Agreed
didn't Reverse Flash said that his cell was on completely different level in dampening powers the different cells?
@@nieznajomy4398 Seeing as its the Reverse Flash, he was probably lying. He couldn't let them know what was really keeping him there after all.
Best rant ever🤣🤣🤣 i cant stop laughing, but its true. The show started jumping around later on in the season.
I have officially given up on flash I tried to stick it out but after season 4&5 I couldn't anymore
Same I want to love it but I cant
I'm sticking around till crisis, the show has been leading up to crisis since season 1 but after that I'm done
Idk I still watch it but I’m not really paying attention anymore
Season 5 was good what you talking about
@@thaboi8324 U for real? Or for play?
Cicada is like Jiren from Dragon Ball Super, so OP that they had plot armour. Even when the characters do something really smart or work together the antagonist would still come out on top.
I would hardly call a character who kept flying away after their plans went to crap, op
They did my boi jiren dirty
No. Not even. The only thing both these villains share is that they're terrible fucking characters and terrible excuse of a villain. Cicada got beat every encounter with the Flash. He literally just flew away everytime.
In Dbs Jiren was a wall that only one guy could break through but he had to get a sledgehammer and support from his crew. In the Flash Cicada was cockroach that was killing people and Peta had to stop them.
I love how both Flash and Arrow had no idea what to do with the side kick. Roy and Wally got none of the attention they deserved and instead Flash prioritised Ralph and XS and Arrow got a whole new team without Roy. It's like a batman show where Robin is only in it for half a season and instead Metamorpho was the side kick.... although I think metamorpho would be cooler than most of the arrow/flash characters.
In the comics, Ralph/Elongated Man was just as if not cooler than Metamorpho. So I think it's less to do with the character and more the writing.
@Max G, did you watch Arrow season 7? Roy had a fantastic return. It was actually a pretty good episode.
Max G anyone who question the show is a hater and a moron
@@Stew91
yeah he returned for an episode but the rest of the time he was gone
@@mikemorro140 He was there in the finale and the previous episode.
You are preaching everything I though about this season. PREACH!!
@Comicstorian
Nora is a result of flashpoint. That's why Thawne made fun of him about time travel "Well....at least you still have one."
Ooohh snap I thought he meant that he still has one Nora since he killed his mother, his first "Nora".
Now I know lol
@@thestreets2817 Honestly, either for his mother or the twins is a sick burn
Naaa y'all he did have those two just not the Barry we know it was the one that saved himself from Thawne that's why they named the girl Nora after his mother who was killed by Thawne. Think about it y would they name there daughter after an alive grandmother, I mean they could but for what reason? This Iris and Barry did it in memory of his late mother Nora. This is my theory u don't have to agree lol
@@mannyuribe8780 no when barry changes time it brakes the original timeline. Even if you set things back to normal it won't be exactly the same so instead of barry and iris having twins they only had nora. Just like how diggle lost his daughter and had a son instead and how Cisco lost his brother, how Caitlin got powers, and how elongated man died in the partial accelerator explosion in season one but is somehow alive in season 4 and 5.
@@tyreonbooker5304 YES I understand that but what I'm saying is that the original Flash had a mother and father (the one that runs Barry up the street to save him) which even was stated by Thawne, so that Thawne didn't know that the timeline was changed being locked up he still thought they had twins until Nora showed up in the prison. Her name is Nora because Thawne killed Barry's mom, which didn't happen to him in the OG timeline. So they named their only child Nora in her memory. I do get what you're saying what I'm saying is that Flash that saved Barry is still missing, I wanna know what happened for him to go to the past and save himself from Thawne. He was created by the original Wells and the best version of the Flash. He taught himself all the awesome speedster things unlike the one we know who learned everything from Wells/Thawne.
Also what ever happened to the show hinting at Sherlock being Reverse Flash "Clever Girl"?
Janjo not Sherlock 🕵️♀️ it’s Sherlouge
@@itzkymani9415 not Sherlouge 🕵️♀️ it's Sherloque
Well the Godspeed we saw has been erased along with Nora’s timeline
Also don and dawn were their kids in the Barry’s mom is alive (original) timeline
There’s no confirmation that Godspeed was erased. She has no established connection to his origin. So her vanishing has not assumed impact on his creation.
@@Smallvillefreak the timeline changed
Could be pre flashpoint too
Maybe we get a do over for Godspeed.
Benny upset from Flash poor Dan suffering 😂💔.
I think I finally figured out why thawne whispers it's because if he talks to loud Barry would hear him through the speed force.
In the original timeline, where barry mom was alive dawn and don were born, but when reverse flash killed her in the timeline of the show , nora was born
The flash has been disappointing honestly after season 3. It was bland and boring, but worst of all, terrible main antagonist
Yea i really like that savitar season, this season is boring too
Bad villains produce bad seasons
I fucked off after Savitar.
Yea I know
Season 3 pissed me off because they ruined Barry's character and made him and the tone too grim dark. However! I will say at least season 3 kept me engaged with the plot and mysteries. Also Barry didn't feel like a side character in his own damn show!
How barry gonna say no time traveling but then let his daughter time travel and stay for the ENTIRE SEASON
What about the speed demons that hunt speedsters that mess with the timeline. Guess they forget.
@@ardendragoon She used the Negative Speed Force.
@@Deception975 that's confusing, i thought he taught her that after Barry took her back.
@@ardendragoon Because Thawne was changes things ever so slightly.
Omg the reverse flash part with him whispering I swear I thought I was the only one who was blasting the audio😂😂
“I am Godspeed. The God of Speed!”
*literally the slowest speedster of all time*
It gets much much worse in season 7.
what i hated about this season:
nora`s childish behavior
barry`s and iris overprotective behavior
cicada always escaping, when he could have been easily been captured
negative speedforce making someone immune against timeline changes makes absolutely no sense, because than reverse flash wouldnt even have vanished at the end of season 1
cisco giving up his powers, he could have just left the team ...
giving cicada a choice about taking the cure
godspeed was totally wasted, just a volicity 9 junky ? WHY ???
this season was a real disappointment :(
Yeah....writers got kinda lazy. Godspeed should have his own season.
1. Meh.
2. They're parents, what do you expect.
3. True, though that only happened two or three times I think.
4. Fair enough.
5. I'm not seeing the problem.
6. Yeah, that could've been done better.
7. I COMPLETELY AGREE! However, I do find it kinda hilarious (in a troll sort of way) that people thought he was going to be a big deal, only for him to be a one-shot villain.
about negative speedforce, it is shown that you need to be inside negative speedforce or be fully connected to it to be immune to timeline changes (becoming living paradox) and reverse flash in season 1 wasn't at his strongest, he couldn't even time travel.
@@grimlord3181 when children are born mothers immediately form a connection because they've been carrying that child for 9 months. Along with fathers after the child is born constantly hearing both their voices and the father getting closer to the child later. Except they never had that yet and Nora us a grown ass woman. In 3 episodes they were ready to die for this person. Instead of building up to it they just said oof guess we love you now.
Dan never signed on for this much physical labor.
To save the multi verse, you just have to go the extra mile.
Rest easy Ben, this is the first video of his that I watched, and i cannot thank him enough for the amount of content he's made over the years. R.I.P🙏🏽
4 things they need to improve moving forward
1) I know that for the first three seasons people were worrying about speedster fatigue. So the show decided to do away with speedster villains and we got the thinker and cicada. In both of these cases for the first half of the seasons the villain was just meh, and then in the second half they just became awful. The Thinker's whole body swapping phase ruined his coolness and status, and the grown up Grace cicada was just terrible, both in the writing and delivery of lines, she was just absurd. Godspeed would make a great villain for season 6, if they can change his backstory (as compared to S5E18), make him believable and somewhat human, intertwine his story with that of team flash, and not butcher his appearance and powers (they achieved this with Reverse flash, zoom and even savitar, so it should be possible); in this case he could provide a perfect threat.
2) (this has been a little bit better in season 5 than season 4) Politics needs to be seperated from the show's stories. The episode 'Girls' night out' in season 4, in which Cecil's daughter becomes a stripper, and reveals to Joe that she is doing this to control the feminist narrative, and reveals that she only likes Dr Who because she is now a woman, was just painful to watch. The flash is meant to be a superhero show. It is meant to be fun. It requires a great deal of suspension of disbelief. At the point when the audience are thinking about (realising the blatantly clear) the political views of the writer, and the ghastly state of modern social politics, that suspension of disbelief is shattered, as is the enjoyment. This video acknowledges that Iris was a huge part of the problem in season 4 - and just like Comics Explained I actually like(d) the character of Iris and think Candice Patton does a great job with her - but placing her as a tactical head of a superhero group, and making her just so unrealistically capable (as in, it took flash multiple seasons, tens of hours of watching and in the show's time, years, to get to the level of skill Iris gets to within one episode of getting powers - the whole premise of the show is that Barry was chosen by the speed force to be the flash - this is part of what makes the character cool- whereas Iris' quick ascension deflates this while adding no value in and of its self). The flash is a white, male character, and CW can (and should, if it wishes to be diverse) make shows on the good non-white, non-male character that DC has to offer. But character development and believability are what will make the shows good, and the point (somewhere in season 3 or 4) where it decided to promote progressive politics at the expense of these things marked the point where it descended from a truly great shows where we cared for all the characters (including, and more so than now, the characters it now puts front and centre for political purposes - Joe West was, and still is but less so, my favourite character on the show by a fair margin), to the figurative mess it is now. This is one of the things they need to redress going forward - the 'woke' aspect needs to be scrapped, and characters, whatever their race or gender, should be treated realistically, and with respect (and I mean characterisation-wise, on terms of interactions, obviously we accept some sort of meta-science as the show's premise), bringing me on to the next thing
3) The show's name is The Flash. Not the Iris, not flash and friends. 'We are the Flash' was really deprecating for Barry, and felt like a punch in the gut for fans - in short it was an utter let-down. The show is clearly not capable (nor does it need to be capable) of telling a gripping, compelling, and relatable story about a whole group of characters with superpowers. Seasons 1 and 2 told a story about Barry Allen and his life as the flash. This was really intriguing, and the whole idea that a person could run at thousands of miles per hour, with reactions correspondingly fast, was exciting and, and had a lot of weight. Now obviously some of that weight resulted from it being a new show, and unexplored theme. But the ridiculously heavy exposure to characters whose powers make no sense, the ease with which the show passes around the gift of the speed force, and the writers seemingly forgetting to explore what it is like to have super-speed have weakened their greatest strength. In seasons 1 and 2 we were intrigued by Barry's powers, because we would be compelled to imagine what it would be like to have powers like Barry, to be able to slow the flow of time in relation to others, and see things as they happen in microseconds. This was achieved through focus on the flash, and subsequently the scenes in which we see him learn about his powers, and most of all those where we see his perception of time as he uses his speed force powers (e.g he sees a coffee falling ) made him engaging. We have stopped seeing Barry's story and evolution as a character lately though, with the focus moving to less compelling characters like Ralph Dibny, Caitlin, and the unnecessary expansion of Iris West's abilities. It does seem like most of the sources of dramatic tension that enriched seasons 1 and 2 have been abandoned, those being such as Barry's need and responsibility to protect the people around him (as they couldn't fend for themselves, giving the show stakes, unlike now), and the tension that came from having a villain more involved with the heroes (like reverse flash being among them the entire time -the dramatic irony of flash not knowing Wells' identity - or the similar twist with Zoom, and the man in the mask mystery). These twists have been replaced with surface level villains with no relation to the main characters, whose identities we know from the start, whose motives are just 'being bad', and who provide no level of threat besides being a physical opponent to fight and foil the plans of. And this is because the intimate, flash focused realism that the early show thrived off has given way to the expansive 'everyone has powers, and equal importance' nature of the show now. The Nora collusion with Reverse Flash, and subsequent mystery that Sherloque solves is an exception to this, and I resultantly absolutely loved the idea, and the season 5 reverse flash arc in its entirety. No offence to killer frost, or the elongated man, or Iris, but they don't hold a candle in interest and engagingness to Barry Allen. Additionally, the CGI looks like it has got progressively worse as the show has gone on, and I suspect that some of that must be due to the allocation of the show's limited budget to CGI for Caitlin, Cisco and Ralph's powers, hopefully if they bring back and ground the show to the eponymous character, they will also have some leftover money to make him look realistic again.
4) This actually constitutes the final point as well; the flash himself needs to look better. Everyone else in the comments section has also pointed this out, but the no chinstrap look is just aesthetically displeasing, and looks really amateurish. From its conception, the show has struggled with giving Barry a good costume (I think season 2 did it best though), and Barry's head has been perennially oversized (what is it with these costumes and giving Barry a huge, balloon-like, unnaturally shaped head?). I do believe that a better costume would go a long way to improving our perception of the character, as the current iteration looks distinctly low-budget and camp (like 1960s Batman, but plasticised). The Reverse flash, and even zoom costumes achieved this brilliantly, so it seems reasonably that this is within the show's ability.
A couple of opinion based things to end on: I really loved Sherloque and sincerely hope they keep him in season 6, the mystery/detective-based element his presence added to the show's dynamic and was my favourite part of season 5. Also, Jay Garrick should be the only remaining regular speedster (or even powered hero) apart from Barry; the personal connection between them and the importance that was forged for Jay in season 2, being at the centre of the biggest mystery of the season, mean that he, unlike others, deserves to actually be included. Plus, he is a really cool character.
It's interesting to think about how we as an audience really care about and revel in some twists/revelations (like Cap lifting Mjolnir, or the S2 man in the mask mystery), while others (like finding out Killer frost is still part of Caitlin, or pretty much any post season 3 twist apart from the nora-thawed-sherloque arc) just fall utterly flat, and we don't care about them at all. These kinds of hyped revelations only work when in conjunction with slow, constant buildup and foreshadowing, good writing and interesting storytelling. The fact that 4 years ago the hinted at concept of killer frost on the flash seemed awesome is just sadly a testament to how far it has fallen.
All this being said, I absolutely love the flash, even the latest seasons, and will not stop watching. This is mostly due to connections built during the first two seasons. Please let me know if you disagree (or agree) strongly with what I have said, given how much I've written there's likely something above aspousing a view divergent to your own. In any case, I sincerely hope flash can rekindle its greatness, and harken back to the glory days.
Taras Kovačević can you work for CW?
I agree Wally west kid flash should’ve been his training arc
Tevya Smolka except they treated Wally like trash and ignored him. Barry literally stood there and watched as Wally got painfully sucked into a portal. For no apparent reason, everyone hated wally
@@djmaydraws3862 yeah that's true damn it this sucks
DJ May LOL I’m glad someone else actually remembers that scene. Not only did Barry stand there, he *cowered back* in fear. I’ve never thought about Barry the same way after that moment. He treated Wally like shit and has been an asshole since the start of Season 3.
@@drlee2 yeah that's true damn it this sucks because wally west was always my flash.
Totally agree with this video when the season ended I was like: wait what?
Edit: I’m loving these rants btw
I think don and Dawn ware from the original timeline, before season 1
yup thawn guess her name when they went to the time vault
Well the showrunner who started in season 3 believes every character is important except for Barry.
His entire function was finding a way to do a show called The Flash where he's the a least important and focused on character.
So new CW shows Batwoman is coming so I can't wait for the 'we are Batwoman' thing.
I doubt I'll watch that lol
How much u wanna bet that supergirl will be teaming up with her a lot in that show at least that's what I hope
@@godxslayer5979 Hot girl on girl team up? Sign me up😎
Next time on The Flash, "ASMR" (Ep. 06x01) ... starring, The Reverse Flash.
rkmugen I’ll watch it
As a Caitlin/Frost Stan, I was never content with her storyline this season. I don’t give a crap about her family. I just wanna see how the two are gonna date. That is what I wanna see. I usually don’t like romantic storylines but I’d like to see the hilarious story that would be them trying to date.
I liked the whole season. I just thought Don and Dawn was canceled out because of Flashpoint like John Diggle's kid and Reverse Flash knew "Dawn" because he's from the original timeline. I dont know why he kept Wells face though. In universe he should be dead from legends of tomorrow.
Also, why does every character get over other characters deaths like instantly?
I don't think that is true
Well they mourn for like 1 or 2 episodes But it’s still way to fast like with HR they mourned at the end of the season then after that he was mentioned ounce or twice.
smith Kaitlyn literally just said fuck her dad 😂
Tbh so many people die that to them it’s like an average Tuesday
HR
Seriously i hope they bring you in as a writer on the arrowverse especially Flash.
I prefer seeing Barry taking control and acting as the leader every time cuz he is a genius.
Barry makes sooooo many dumb decisions...
@@Peekoh dude has speedster brain and learned quantum physics basically overnight...... Misses the most essential parts consistently.
There were so many times when the heros just stood there while the villian was distracted. And anytime their friends were about to get killed, they just stood there yelling "Noooooo" when they had a full 5 seconds to stop it. The writing was so lazy 🤦♂️
And also why does Cicada look and sound like batman and nic cage had a kid
In my opinon i feel by every season the flash gets worse. Hopr season 6 is different since they bought back reverse flash
I kinda agree but I think s3 is just the most atrocious
Hope so too. I'm interested since Bloodwork is gonna be the villain and they have a new showrunner so they have a clean slate based on how S5 ended. It does make me wonder if they gonna stretch Bloodwork as an all season antagonist like how they did Cicada. If they do that again? Think the reception will be the same and fans won't be happy
I liked s3 5 sucked and 4 was boring 6 is good so far
its ya boi Season 6 has been...eh. It’s okay, but it has had some bad episodes. The last 3 episodes have been pretty enjoyable however.
Man why does everyone hate on 4 so much, I get Iris is annoying in that one but like it definitely wasn’t boring like 5, and didnt suck as bad as the latter half of 3. And why does everyone like 6? Bloodwork’s whole motivation is just stupid, and he somehow fucking bloodworked(pun) his way into the speed force, and barry losing his speed and Eva being an op mirror lady come on....Ralph made season 4, his development is just 👌 and his “death” made me tear up a bit, he made me like the show enough to keep watching....s1 and 2 are top tier “the flash”, season 3 was okay, 4 ignoring iris favoritism is good, 5 is boring as hell, 6 is okay at first then gets overly boring and frustratingly played out
I love Benny Rants. Usually we only see them on Twitch. Keep using them here!
This entire season 5 is just WTF, it used to be my fav arrowverse show😭
Arrowverse in general has gone to absolute crap. The shows are just way to stretched out. The flash has 23 episodes per season. Nobody ever liked the weekly meta thing. The weekly meta thing is so bad. If they could half the episodes in a season. It would mean the budget would be better, the cgi would be better, and the story would probably be better.
@@DanielLopez-ob9jz i mainly love DC legends it's really funny and goofy the first 2 seasons were kinda serious but they started going for more comedy they still fight and stuff but its more light hearted
@@kingkilla777 that's one of the only shows I could bare in the arrowverse. The pacing is so much better.
@@DanielLopez-ob9jz yea I have also been wtaching arrow it was good until I say season 5
@@kingkilla777 season 3 and 4 we weren't that great.
“Why is Reverse Flash whispering? I had to turn the TV up!!”
Funniest thing I heard all week...
I think killing Barry’s mother made Nora exist, as Eobard remembers the timeline before Barry’s mother died, where Don and Dawn were born.
Seems odd that he never mentioned that.
Cicada lasted way longer than he/she should
No they should
1. Put more effort into his/her fights so it doesn't look weird
2. Fix what the fuck goes out of the mouth.
3. Cicada II is a mistake
Benny ranting and losing his mind us always great. I agree with so much of this.
Oh, and shout out to Dan T.Whiteboard
only good parts this season.
1. Anything with reverse flash in it
2. That's probably it. Godspeed was alright, but they did him dirty, at least that timeline is now gone, which allows him to return as a much better version of godspeed
12:05 I can see the guy holding the board try very very hard not laugh. Trust me, im a metahuman.
I almost forgot that there is a guy behind the board.
@@__azt how??
He was soo still that he had become almost invisible 😁😁
I blame everything on Iris “We Are The Flash” Allen
That line was only in last season, get over it.
Blame the terrible writers
@@djmaydraws3862 iris is still a terrible character no matter who writes her character.
@@Riskofrain527 My goodness, you are such a loser!
@Dave Sergio Apparently.
I appreciated this rant. The Flash is all over the place. I really hope things turn around next season and we get the Flash we deserve.
Red Hood we should because it will be a speedster villain
4:59 remember this is in a show where the main character is sleeping with his sister
13:31 “and then, like, the whole convince him to be good, butOhNo there’s a second cicadaaa” 😂😂
The show should get rid of the "WE" in The Flash. Yeah it's great to add the "i got my frens behind my bacc so i can win" scenario sometimes bUt liek to put that in majority of the show? The Flash isnt an anime character lmao.
DC streaming has incredible writing while CW has reddit users as writers
*titans, doom patrol, incredible writing. are you high*
vmorales225 DC streaming has some better actors, not better writing. Writings still awful.
Key word, ‘some’.
Agent Smith Doom Patrol is freakin Amazing! In my Opinion.
Titans not so much.
Empire Artist they rushed on Titans but they have the same people on board who are doing Doom Patrol for Titans Now for season 2 so I know it's going to get better
Not reddit tumbler writers 😂
It's Sureluck his last line, difined it and replied to them thanking him and pretty much saying that they couldn't have done it without him ... "Sure luck."
It was sure luck nothing els.
Iris be like “We are the flash”
Listen Iris, you do shit to help the team. Also how the hell is she the leader of the team with her zero experience in science and technology lmao