Cheers mate. We’ve done over 800ks in our Sealion 6 but all short trips and almost all on EV only so I don’t have any data on fuel use yet. I appreciate your work.
Well tested, at highway speeds aerodynamic drag certainly has an impact on efficiency. I've even noticed a big difference with all my vehicles travelling at GPS measured speed which is higher than vehicle manufacturers speed calibration. I feel they really use the ADR tolerance for speedo calibration (speeds over 40kph they must be within 10% of the actual speed) to their benefit for official tested fuel consumption. For example our Tarago V6 Ultima when driving at speedo 100kph and measuring with GPS device like a mobile app, the car is actually doing 93kph! It uses way less fuel when following the vehicle speedo! Nice test with the charging when very low electric capacity, seems like it will charge from petrol easy enough! Great to know for owners and adds to the versatility of these type of Hybrid powerplants or any EV to that matter!
Just wondering. Does it have some sort of function to keep the engine running to charge the battery while in parking mode while we go get some groceries or something? Like stop the car, set the alarm, go for a jog and the engine just keeps running to recharge and automatically stops when full..
@@lordred8017 I’ve never needed to charge it from alternator but I leave it on with AC on and lock car, seems to be happy about it that come back 15 mins later after coffee is cold and fine same applies to shopping hot days leave car on so it’s nice and cold when I get back and seems fine, app also lets you turn on remotely for up to 30mins as well so it’s suitable.
If you want to do a proper test then you need to account driving both ways and under the same driving modes. The topography heading north-south is different vs south-north. And you need to disregard what the computer is saying. Fill up, run it down and fill up again then calculate kms/fuel.
@@ErnosMowJo yeah that’s a fairly good point not one I thought about. Could be possible next week I have to go back to NSW - stay tuned I could do it in the way you’ve asked hehe.
Most cars have a speed theyre more efficient at and it often doesnt effect travel time greatly, if you cruised on 105 or 110 rather than 115 over that distance, it could have a big effect, i find my current car much more efficient at 100 than 115, im not familiar with hev's efficiency but am considering getting one but i do alot of long trips, interested to here your thoughts, i also average 80-100 kms a day when in melbourne and would be happy to charge nightly
So obviously 1) factor is aerodynamic resistance so faster you go, the more drag is applied so more energy is needed to keep moving the vehicle. But this particular "best speed" you talk about normally has to do with ICE engines and transmissions. The reason for this is engines have a peak power and torque range and normally therefor is an efficent RPM the engine should run at to meet 2 conditions. A) be inside the peak torque range, but also B) be as close to peak power output as well. Lower the RPM, less fuel is been burned but if the peak output is not in the low RPM range then its not as efficent as creating power, even though your burning less fuel thats why there is a perfect happy spot per vehicle which translate to a speed. This is normally the last year on the transmission meeting all the above conditions. In electric vehicles, I dont think this applies (happy to be corrected on this) thefore its only the faster you go the more drag you create and you need energy to keep moving. Hope this makes sense... there is also other things in ICE setups like torque lockup etc on automatics and such but this is a whole other discussion.
What I'm interested in is battery 🔋 at 25% parked camping or at home. How long stationary to get the battery to 70% and how many litres. This type of test will be crucial when taking advantage of sharks power delivery whilst camping 🥾
@AllTerrainActionEV your explanation of Lithium Phosphate batteries was spot on. A lot of reviewers 'say you can't go deep' on Chinese cars as battery just cuts out, but no-one explained why. Flat line voltage finally explains drivers experience, nice work mate
@@BuntaBall40 thank you for that feedback! I’m a huge off road enthusiast so the Shark is right up my alley with all that’s possible with EVs off road there will be changes for sure and I’m so keen to see what’s achievable. Worst time in the economy to be doing things like this but I can’t ignore the calling haha !
@@architjari everything I’ve published is my honest non bias feedback of the car, in summary it’s a really tech filled car that’s a gateway EV ownership without range anxiety risk. Feels conventional like a normal car with the Electric first benifits and I haven’t yet had a problem except for access to BYd service centres and a disagreement with a dealership for service costs, but has been since resolved and in my favour. The car itself, just does what it should but it is a little average on fuel, there are better options if you never plan to plug in at home, as long as you plug in each night benefits all round - great value for money. I would buy again if I had to buy another car for the business.
@AllTerrainActionEV thanks for your prompt response, stuck between Atto 3 or Sealion 6. Will be the second car with the first one we have being Kia Sorento (petrol). Daily usage would be limited to school pickup and drop off plus some occasional grocery shopping and weekend use will be about 40-50 KMS in total for Saturday as well as Sunday or occasional 100 KMS in total once a month and then occasional long family trips for more than 100kms once in a while. What do you reckon between Atto 3 and Sealion 6. Looking for a long term reliability with not having to go with mechanical issues.
@ AC in SL6 so much better than atto that I can def tell you from actually switching between the two on a loan car day and the SL6 more stable on fast take off when cornering.
@@AllTerrainActionEV but what about the reliability of the car between Atto 3 and Sealion 6. It's just that someone in Facebook user group for SL6 posted below: I just thought I’d share my recent BYD experience, either in the hope that someone can help me navigate the BYD eco system. I collected my vehicle on Friday 6th of December from BYD in the Melbourne CBD. About four minutes after driving a warning light came on “Please check the power system.” The vehicle was driving fine, and wasn’t speed limited so I continued home. This warning has persisted. Further investigation into the energy usage history suggests the fuel engine isn’t turning on. Sicardo at BYD Melbourne CBD had been great, connecting me with a technician on Saturday (who didn’t work weekends), but unfortunately this cannot be resolved without visiting a service centre. The advice from BYD Melbourne CBD was to contact a service centre and schedule an appointment. My attempts to do so today have been unsuccessful, and I’m worried the vehicle won’t be able to be assessed and fixed quickly. I’ve put the ball in their court to resolve this as quickly as possible, as I currently have a vehicle which I can’t reliably use. I don’t currently have access to charging infrastructure, so I’m reliant on the HEV functionality. A pretty poor experience! Has any experienced a similar issue? What was the resolution?
@@AllTerrainActionEV ok thanks, but in terms of the overall reliability which one you reckon is better. The reason I ask is because I found below review on one of the Facebook groups for SL6: @architjari everything I've published is my honest non bias feedback of the car, in summary it's a really tech filled car that's a gateway EV ownership without range anxiety risk. Feels conventional like a normal car with the Electric first benifits and I haven't yet had a problem except for access to BYd service centres and a disagreement with a dealership for service costs, but has been since resolved and in my favour. The car itself, just does what it should but it is a little average on fuel, there are better options if you never plan to plug in at home, as long as you plug in each night benefits all round - great value for money. I would buy again if I had to buy another car for the business.
So from traveling 554.1km and consumed 42.16lt your consumptionis 7.6L/100. which is not that impressive from the size of the car. I dont know how your car computer shows 4L/100.
@@bluray5184 it is because (I think) it is not calculating the fuel used to generate electricity for the the electric motors and charge to battery. This is something I was also confused as at the start. The car seems to always have a kWh/100km and a L/100km rating. I think the fuel used by the engine to make power and store/consume is not part of that 4L/100 reading which in a way is giving a false sense of economy. I am certain the Sealion Dynamic 2WD would have preformed a lot better than my AWD model, I chose this model for other reasons - not fuel economy this is just a test that people seem to ask info about all the time. I will see if I can math this out a little bit and break it down to numbers I can just tell you guys, but it is as you see it currently - and at 110km/hr is not proving to be great. I definitely see that in less urban driving the Sealion 6 does preform a lot better for benifits from EV design, I may also need to do a city driving economy test to show the other side of this.
@@AllTerrainActionEV L/100km is a measurement of fluid to distance no excuse for false data by manufacture. I have seen this in so many Chinese industries fake measurements. I knew that the fuel consumption will be high as it’s a heavy vehicle for its size due to battery weight. I would love to see more statistic on your daily driving as this is where the vehicle might shine due to its EV capabilities.
@ in my research cycling battery for hours driving at 25% is not good for long term health of battery, better to cycle at 70% then just go to EV mode last 50km before arriving at a charger - that isn’t you care about giving the battery the best life.
@@realnaseski4826 these tests are leading me to think I need a city driving test too as that’s where the PHEV will kick goals, and probably more common use scenario. Stay tuned.
Cheers mate. We’ve done over 800ks in our Sealion 6 but all short trips and almost all on EV only so I don’t have any data on fuel use yet. I appreciate your work.
Well tested, at highway speeds aerodynamic drag certainly has an impact on efficiency. I've even noticed a big difference with all my vehicles travelling at GPS measured speed which is higher than vehicle manufacturers speed calibration. I feel they really use the ADR tolerance for speedo calibration (speeds over 40kph they must be within 10% of the actual speed) to their benefit for official tested fuel consumption.
For example our Tarago V6 Ultima when driving at speedo 100kph and measuring with GPS device like a mobile app, the car is actually doing 93kph! It uses way less fuel when following the vehicle speedo!
Nice test with the charging when very low electric capacity, seems like it will charge from petrol easy enough! Great to know for owners and adds to the versatility of these type of Hybrid powerplants or any EV to that matter!
Just wondering. Does it have some sort of function to keep the engine running to charge the battery while in parking mode while we go get some groceries or something? Like stop the car, set the alarm, go for a jog and the engine just keeps running to recharge and automatically stops when full..
@@lordred8017 I’ve never needed to charge it from alternator but I leave it on with AC on and lock car, seems to be happy about it that come back 15 mins later after coffee is cold and fine same applies to shopping hot days leave car on so it’s nice and cold when I get back and seems fine, app also lets you turn on remotely for up to 30mins as well so it’s suitable.
If you want to do a proper test then you need to account driving both ways and under the same driving modes. The topography heading north-south is different vs south-north. And you need to disregard what the computer is saying. Fill up, run it down and fill up again then calculate kms/fuel.
@@ErnosMowJo yeah that’s a fairly good point not one I thought about. Could be possible next week I have to go back to NSW - stay tuned I could do it in the way you’ve asked hehe.
Most cars have a speed theyre more efficient at and it often doesnt effect travel time greatly, if you cruised on 105 or 110 rather than 115 over that distance, it could have a big effect, i find my current car much more efficient at 100 than 115, im not familiar with hev's efficiency but am considering getting one but i do alot of long trips, interested to here your thoughts, i also average 80-100 kms a day when in melbourne and would be happy to charge nightly
So obviously 1) factor is aerodynamic resistance so faster you go, the more drag is applied so more energy is needed to keep moving the vehicle.
But this particular "best speed" you talk about normally has to do with ICE engines and transmissions. The reason for this is engines have a peak power and torque range and normally therefor is an efficent RPM the engine should run at to meet 2 conditions. A) be inside the peak torque range, but also B) be as close to peak power output as well. Lower the RPM, less fuel is been burned but if the peak output is not in the low RPM range then its not as efficent as creating power, even though your burning less fuel thats why there is a perfect happy spot per vehicle which translate to a speed. This is normally the last year on the transmission meeting all the above conditions.
In electric vehicles, I dont think this applies (happy to be corrected on this) thefore its only the faster you go the more drag you create and you need energy to keep moving.
Hope this makes sense... there is also other things in ICE setups like torque lockup etc on automatics and such but this is a whole other discussion.
What I'm interested in is battery 🔋 at 25% parked camping or at home. How long stationary to get the battery to 70% and how many litres. This type of test will be crucial when taking advantage of sharks power delivery whilst camping 🥾
@@BuntaBall40 all these tests will come as I experience this myself, will share all I discover!
@AllTerrainActionEV awesome mate
@AllTerrainActionEV your explanation of Lithium Phosphate batteries was spot on. A lot of reviewers 'say you can't go deep' on Chinese cars as battery just cuts out, but no-one explained why. Flat line voltage finally explains drivers experience, nice work mate
@@BuntaBall40 thank you for that feedback! I’m a huge off road enthusiast so the Shark is right up my alley with all that’s possible with EVs off road there will be changes for sure and I’m so keen to see what’s achievable. Worst time in the economy to be doing things like this but I can’t ignore the calling haha !
What's your honest overall experience on the reliability of Sealion 6 havung driven thousands of kms
@@architjari everything I’ve published is my honest non bias feedback of the car, in summary it’s a really tech filled car that’s a gateway EV ownership without range anxiety risk. Feels conventional like a normal car with the Electric first benifits and I haven’t yet had a problem except for access to BYd service centres and a disagreement with a dealership for service costs, but has been since resolved and in my favour. The car itself, just does what it should but it is a little average on fuel, there are better options if you never plan to plug in at home, as long as you plug in each night benefits all round - great value for money. I would buy again if I had to buy another car for the business.
@AllTerrainActionEV thanks for your prompt response, stuck between Atto 3 or Sealion 6. Will be the second car with the first one we have being Kia Sorento (petrol). Daily usage would be limited to school pickup and drop off plus some occasional grocery shopping and weekend use will be about 40-50 KMS in total for Saturday as well as Sunday or occasional 100 KMS in total once a month and then occasional long family trips for more than 100kms once in a while. What do you reckon between Atto 3 and Sealion 6. Looking for a long term reliability with not having to go with mechanical issues.
@ AC in SL6 so much better than atto that I can def tell you from actually switching between the two on a loan car day and the SL6 more stable on fast take off when cornering.
@@AllTerrainActionEV but what about the reliability of the car between Atto 3 and Sealion 6. It's just that someone in Facebook user group for SL6 posted below:
I just thought I’d share my recent BYD experience, either in the hope that someone can help me navigate the BYD eco system.
I collected my vehicle on Friday 6th of December from BYD in the Melbourne CBD. About four minutes after driving a warning light came on “Please check the power system.” The vehicle was driving fine, and wasn’t speed limited so I continued home.
This warning has persisted. Further investigation into the energy usage history suggests the fuel engine isn’t turning on.
Sicardo at BYD Melbourne CBD had been great, connecting me with a technician on Saturday (who didn’t work weekends), but unfortunately this cannot be resolved without visiting a service centre.
The advice from BYD Melbourne CBD was to contact a service centre and schedule an appointment. My attempts to do so today have been unsuccessful, and I’m worried the vehicle won’t be able to be assessed and fixed quickly.
I’ve put the ball in their court to resolve this as quickly as possible, as I currently have a vehicle which I can’t reliably use.
I don’t currently have access to charging infrastructure, so I’m reliant on the HEV functionality.
A pretty poor experience! Has any experienced a similar issue? What was the resolution?
@@AllTerrainActionEV ok thanks, but in terms of the overall reliability which one you reckon is better. The reason I ask is because I found below review on one of the Facebook groups for SL6:
@architjari everything I've published is my honest non bias feedback of the car, in summary it's a really tech filled car that's a gateway EV ownership without range anxiety risk. Feels conventional like a normal car with the Electric first benifits and I haven't yet had a problem except for access to BYd service centres and a disagreement with a dealership for service costs, but has been since resolved and in my favour. The car itself, just does what it should but it is a little average on fuel, there are better options if you never plan to plug in at home, as long as you plug in each night benefits all round - great value for money. I would buy again if I had to buy another car for the business.
So from traveling 554.1km and consumed 42.16lt your consumptionis 7.6L/100. which is not that impressive from the size of the car. I dont know how your car computer shows 4L/100.
@@bluray5184 it is because (I think) it is not calculating the fuel used to generate electricity for the the electric motors and charge to battery. This is something I was also confused as at the start.
The car seems to always have a kWh/100km and a L/100km rating.
I think the fuel used by the engine to make power and store/consume is not part of that 4L/100 reading which in a way is giving a false sense of economy.
I am certain the Sealion Dynamic 2WD would have preformed a lot better than my AWD model, I chose this model for other reasons - not fuel economy this is just a test that people seem to ask info about all the time.
I will see if I can math this out a little bit and break it down to numbers I can just tell you guys, but it is as you see it currently - and at 110km/hr is not proving to be great. I definitely see that in less urban driving the Sealion 6 does preform a lot better for benifits from EV design, I may also need to do a city driving economy test to show the other side of this.
@@AllTerrainActionEV L/100km is a measurement of fluid to distance no excuse for false data by manufacture. I have seen this in so many Chinese industries fake measurements. I knew that the fuel consumption will be high as it’s a heavy vehicle for its size due to battery weight. I would love to see more statistic on your daily driving as this is where the vehicle might shine due to its EV capabilities.
I doubt that would run 25km/li…with that design and AWD coupled with its battery..13km/li is just right.
Would be interesting to see what it does with 25% save
@ in my research cycling battery for hours driving at 25% is not good for long term health of battery, better to cycle at 70% then just go to EV mode last 50km before arriving at a charger - that isn’t you care about giving the battery the best life.
i think u should show how much car regain from braking that way we can calculate how much it actually uses in kw then we add petrol.
@@realnaseski4826 these tests are leading me to think I need a city driving test too as that’s where the PHEV will kick goals, and probably more common use scenario. Stay tuned.
What's the maximum charging speed ? Does it charge at 18 kwh?
@@ahmedalsadi0010 claimed DC is 18kW/hr I haven’t tested this myself yet as don’t own a DC cable.