At the beginning of the movie you hear Andrew Garfield as Desmond reading from Isaiah 40:31, "But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength ........ they shall run and not grow weary, and they shall walk and not faint." This passage answers the question, "Where did Desmond get the strength to do what he did. Keep in mind that in a 12 hour period, Desmond carried, dragged, and lowered a minimum of 75 men. Assuming an average weight of 150 lbs. per man 150 X 75= 11,250 lbs that Desmond moved. Anyone that has done roofing work knows how exhausting carrying 75 lbs bundles of shingles can be. When you take into account Desmond's physical condition his feat was even more amazing. Desmond was not a big man. He was 5feet 8inches tall and weighed 145 lbs. Furthermore he suffered from tuberculosis, picked up on Guam or the Philippines, which was diagnosed in 1946 and he was a vegetarian so he didn't get the benefits of meat protein. So, where did Desmond get the strength and stamina? Go back to Isaiah 40:31.
That is only about half the number of men he actually got by most reports (He strenuously objected to the numbers they wanted to put on the citation so they toned it down to placate him).
@wiseblood90 Trigger Warning: Views may be expressed that are not 100.00% identical to yours. When I was jn school we didn't consider giving a source for a quote "tainting". He likely didn't realize you would feel your belief system was in imminent danger simoly because others expressed theirs. which would drive you to a preemptive strike to protect your beliefs. Perhaps he will send you some buttercups along with the note of apology.
Medics and Corpsmen in WWII carried .45 caliber pistol for self defense rifles were considered offensive. Doss's .45 went untouched. Rifle qualification was required to pass boot camp but that did not mean it would be their weapon in daily use. In the European Theater, for the most part, medical personnel were not targeted because they did not carry offensive weapons. In the Pacific it was a very different circumstance. The Japanese deliberately targeted medics & Corpsmen. They quickly learned to stay alive they needed to look just like their soldiers & Marines. That meant they carried & used weapons and they still to this day. In the 80s I carried the 9mm Beretta pistol & the M16A2. In 1990 I stood on Hacksaw Ridge. I was stationed with the Marines on Okinawa. The moment and Doss's accomplishments were not lost on me. Hacksaw Ridge is now a Peace Park dedicated to Doss.
Yeah, sometimes on the European theater medics were hit. Because the heat of battle could get too hectic, And they'll be hit by mistake. And thank you for your service. From a man in the Army.
Thank you for sharing information I did not know. I joined the Navy at 17 to become a Corpsman. I was in when Saigon fell. I remember in Corps school they told us when deployed remove anything that designated you as a medic. They told us that the enemy targets certain people... first officers to create chaos, medics second because they figured by taking out the medic you eliminate at least 10-20 souls that the medic can't save. In that era, I was never going to be deployed due to being female, but I hoped for a hospital ship. I thought this was the mindset of most enemy combatants. I didn't know in WWII in the European theater medics were not targeted simply because they were medics. Never too late to learn something. Thanks for your service, from one Doc to another.
By most accounts Desmond Doss carried well over 100 men to safety on Hacksaw Ridge, including Japanese soldiers. He was so humble he said he didn't do more than 25. Congress averaged it out and just said he saved 75 for his medal. He was definitely one of the best men who ever existed.
His father was a US Marine that fought at the Battle of Belleau Wood, it was known for its brutality and loss of life. The Marines were outnumbered badly but refused to withdraw and kept fighting even hand to hand at times.
You’re right, shooting medics is a war crime as outlined by the Geneva Conventions, BUT… Japan had not recognized nor signed the Geneva Conventions at the time this event happened. So to them at that time, shooting medics was fair game. Japan did not formally sign the Geneva Conventions until 1953 I believe.
Middle Eastern countries we've fought who have also signed the Geneva conventions also literally try to kill medics, but since we weren't technically fighting the government except in syria and in Iraq, they go away with it.
Your emotional reaction is well received. It's hard not to feel something for this hero's story. Brave, unselfish, patriotic, and truly heroic man he was. Great reaction.
In some significant ways, this excellent true story of Desmond Doss was toned down to make it more believable. However, there are some things that were changed that you might want to know about. Doss and his unit had actually taken part in two previous Pacific island invasions before they got to Okinawa, and Doss had actually been decorated with the Bronze Star for Valor twice in the second battle, so Desmond was already a well respected member of the unit before Hacksaw Ridge. You can understand why they decided to compress the story entirely to the Okinawa campaign to keep the story easier to understand. Some of the other changes they made are also understandable, such as they amped up the drama of the trial a lot, and the situation where he leaves his wife at the altar while he sits in a cell is not quite the way that happened. The website History vs Hollywood article on this movie is pretty good, and covers most the of the stuff that they changed or were mistaken about.
can go one better you should realy check out " The Fat Electrician " video he did on the regiment, its an amazing story about this special regiment, its called " Old Age & Treachery - The Unstoppable 77th Infantry Division "
You should know that the helmets of WW2 would almost never stop a bullet...that is not what they weree meant to do. Sometimes, a pistol shot might glance off if it did not hit squarely, but more powerful rounds like machine gun and rifle bullets would pretty much always go through. Helmets back then were mostly meant to reduce shrapnel wounds and other mundane injuries to the head, but offered not much protection from bullets.
Modern helmets still serve the same purpose. Mostly protection from shrapnel, debris and if you're lucky ricochets as well. Some modern kevlar helmets can stop bullets from going through, even rifle ammunition if hit from a certain angle. 9/10 times the impact will still kill you. Either a skull fracture, broken neck or the kevlar itself will pierce straight into your brain.
I believe it was King David who actually wrote a psalm praising God for teaching his hands to make war and bringing him victory against the enemies of Israel.
That's the power of faith: When the Good Lord is with you, nothing is impossible. God bless Desmond Doss and his family! God bless all the courageous veterans with nerves of steel who risked everything and sacrificed so much to protect our countries and preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! God bless all the souls - military and civilian - that we have lost in times of war! God bless America! God bless us all and grant us peace!
My biggest objection to HACKSAW RIDGE is the portrayal of Thomas Doss as an abusive alcoholic. There is no evidence that he was ever violent towards his family. He did abuse alcohol after returning from WW1, but eventually stopped drinking. I have no issues with the other liberties Mel Gibson takes in this movie as he is trying to convey the hell the Army put Desmond through. I must add that the movie does not even come close to the crap the Army through at Desmond during his training.
Also, the hacksaw ridge fight wasn't the first time that division went into battle. 77th division was an experimental unit nicknamed the "old bastards" and the average age in the group was 33. It became the most effective division in the army for the Pacific theater and their first battle earned them the respect of the Marines, which wasn't an easy accomplishment for army units on Pacific islands. They were specifically brought to Okinawa and held in reserve until leadership could find out where they were needed most and hacksaw ridge was one of the strongest fortifications on the island so they got sent there. Desmond was already respected by his squad mates before that battle.
I just have to say, a panda sneezing is probably the cutest thing in the world. Second place goes to an angry British women; "He's making me really cross".
Desmond was sent to a rifle company by mistake and the Army being the Army, correcting a mistake is the last thing on their minds. Medics did have the option to carry a weapon for self-defense. Quite a few medics in the Pacific carried weapons to protect themselves and the wounded. It was Thomas Doss's constant writing to commanding officers that finally got Desmond transferred to medic training, but that didn't end the crap he had to deal with.😊 Thomas Doss kept fighting for fair treatment for his son throughout his training.
Typically most medics in WW2 didn't use rifles but had a pistol for self defense, most didn't target them in Europe, but the Japanese on the other hand made it a point to single them out so the medics had to adapt, in the movie it touches on this a bit when the other medics tell doss not to wear any medical identification on his person at all, but this actually changed how medic corps operated even to this day because the medics in the Pacific theatre all carried rifles and fought just as the army and marines did to blend in better in between fulfilling their medical duties, nowadays there's a saying that the single most important medical tool a field doc carries is his rifle, it let's them lay down suppressing fire so they can have space to work and helps them prevent future injuries by making sure the enemy isn't alive to cause them, WW2 changed the course of America's wartime doctrines into overwhelming aggression on all fronts.
This goes for all nations involved in major conflicts. Total war is much different than modern peace missions. 'Geneva guidelines' is a commonly used phrase for a reason.
@@patrickevans9604 I have a pretty strong stomach but I CANNOT listen to or read anything about Unit 731. I started listening to a podcast episode about their atrocities once, and as soon as I heard “pregnant women” and “elderly” I had to shut it off.
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac yea that unit was so bad they made Nazis cringe. Sadly, some of the things they learned through the "tests" has done wonders for the medical field. The US government helped keep most of it under wraps in exchange for Japan turning over the knowledge of the human body that their atrocities taught them.
In HACKSAW RIDGE you see several of the reasons why battle against the Japanese was so incredibly brutal. The Japanese believed that surrender was the ultimate disgrace. They also believed that their lives belonged to the Emperor and all other races were less than human. Military training taught the Japanese soldier to be pitiless, ruthless, and to die. These are the reasons why so few Japanese ever became POWs. While the Japanese signed the 1907 Convention at the Hague and the 1899 Geneva Convention delineating war crimes they did not abide by them. In HACKSAW RIDGE you see 3 war crimes as outlined by the Conventions. 1. Killing medics: It was and still is a war crime to target all medical personnel unless they are engaged in battle. The Japanese actually paid their soldiers a premium for killing medics. In SAVING PRIVATE RYAN you actually see a Red Cross flag flying at the aid station on Omaha Beach. The medics and the priest are not targeted. The Nazis actually followed the Geneva Convention on the Western Front. 2. Killing helpless wounded: The Conventions prohibited the killing of helpless wounded. 3. Using a white flag to gain an advantage while attacking an enemy. The Battle for Hacksaw Ridge was especially brutal because the battlefield was so confined on the escarpment. The underground tunnel system and caves the Japanese had dug was described by the men that fought that battle as an underground battleship. Total American deaths on Okinawa was 12,500. Total deaths on Hacksaw Ridge was almost 2500. Japanese KIAs on Hacksaw was 5000.
That's why Truman had no choice but use new weapon (Atomic Bombs) during WWII against Japan because military was planning full scale invasion on Japan knowing every Japanese will fight to the death causing American and Allies casualties. Military knew the power of those bombs when they did Trinity Test in Nevada prior to those drops on Hiroshima and Nagasaki making Emperor to surrender ending the war. But those bombs opened nuclear weapon genie out its bottle. New bombs today can scorch Earth end life as we know it......
@@Stevarooni Doesn't make it NOT a dick move. And, hey, once you're the loser of a war you are at the mercy of the victor. That is the time that war crimes start getting enforced on, and damn whether you actually agreed to them in the first place.
Thank you for doing this fantastic film, keeping those of that Greatest Generation in present memory. Men like Doss & Eugene (from BoB) brought honor to the many medics who served. Just a story of a guy forged by the Great Depression, tough childhood & a time where values were regarded. (Have a suggestion for your next WWII film; “Unbroken”…true story of Louie Zamporini, an Army Air Corps crewman in the Pacific.)
Please watch The Conscientious Objector ( a fan made documentary from which the interviews at the end are from ) and his autobiography. He makes u want to be a better human. He has a hospital and a school named after him . His story is still taught to recruits to this day to show what one man is capable of if he truly believes he can. The president said to him while giving him his medal that it was the proudest moment of his life to give him this medal.
36:26 There are so many of them because that is ALL OF THEM attacking all at once. These attacks were referred to as "Banzai Charges", where the Japanese gathered all of their men (many of whom who spent the night before getting drunk on Sake) and told them to wipe out the enemy or die trying. These attacks were typically desperate attempts to turn the tide of the battle but they rarely did. More often than not they were suicide charges.
Lynchburg VA is in the western part of the state in the Shenandoah River Valley betwewn the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Appalachians. The Coastal Plain east of the Blue Ridge is likely the flatter area you were thinking of.
"How does he know who these people are when they are covered in dirt...?" When I was deployed, I knew who my guys (all several dozens of them) where by their movements, their walks, and I could pick them out by their silhouettes at 300 meters through grainy night vision; even I was a bit surprised the first night I recognized was doing it. Nothing brings people together quite like an existential external threat-and I mean that without irony. Civilians understand the concept, writers parrot the experiences of veterans to ignorant audiences, but living is quiet remarkable.
The movie hacksaw Ridge takes place on the island of Okinawa. Okinawa was a crucial part of the war plan for the allies during World War II. The airfield on Okinawa was the staging point for the planes that dropped the nuclear bombs on Japan, and ended the war. Okinawa was A key strategic position that had to be taken. That’s why hacksaw Ridge was so important to the allied and American forces. That’s why they kept sending troops to take the ridge.
Fun fact: Desmond was married before he went into the military. Also, the scene with Desmond holding a gun up to his dad was actually Desmond's Uncle and dad.
Fun Fact: During the real life events they didn’t stop the barrage so Doss did everything under constant walking mortar fire. Doss also saw a LOT MORE combat before the grenade took him out. And even then he got off the stretcher for a more critically wounded man and ended up having to crawl all the way back to friendly lines.
Asking forgiveness is bigger then saying im sorry. Forgiveness means i acknowledge my failure and asking you that you forgive me for it so we can start over on better terms and a better mind. So the Captain in a sense did say, Im sorry...just more ''formally''
Just as the scene gets interesting and we're about to see a star moment, your face pops up right in the middle of the good bits. 😂❤ the centre shots are the funniest. 😅😂❤
Not only is this a true story. The 77th Infantry Division was made up of older married men. While Divisions tended to be young. The average age of the 77th was 33 or 34 years old. They were extremely skilled and well trained. They were the best marksmen in the army. They were so good the kill ratio was nearly 40 to 1 and statistically speaking the chance of dying in the 77th was low. They knew what they were doing and did it extremely well. The 77th was not part of the attack on Okinawa. They were in reserve. Once they discovered the Hacksaw Ridge was a problem that was killing lots of men, they sent in the 77th as problem solvers. They solved Hacksaw Ridge fairly quickly. Desmond was injured a few miles away about 2 or 3 weeks after they had taken Hacksaw Ridge. The story of the 77th Infantry Division is legendary. They were that good.
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523they were nicknamed the old bastards. They were reinstated in 1942 as an experimental unit. They wanted older men for their life experience and it turned out to be one of the best infantry divisions in the pacific theater
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523look up the fat electrician and go find his video about the old bastards. They trained for 2 years in every impossible situation available on American soil and became the most effective American division in the Pacific
And actually I think their kill ratio was much higher than 40 to 1. They also were so feared by the Japanese that most refused to surrender to them at all.
Excellent reaction. I spent 10 years in the Army and was in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Combat is something that affects you in ways that you would never consider possible unless you go through it. And the combat I went through was nothing like this, ours was over in 4 days. Somethings that a lot of people don't consider until they go into the military. One thing is that the cheapest equipment that the military can replace in combat is the soldier. Also you swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. Nowhere do you say you are protected by it. Just kind of putting it into perspective. Again, great reaction.
Apparently they only put half the things he did in real life in the movie because they were so unbelievable that they thought audiences wouldn't believe it!🤯
46:10 Saying "sorry" is NOT an apology it is a sign of weakness, what he said was one of the best sincere apologies i have ever heard spoken. You have it backward lady, whoever told you saying sorry was apologizing owes you an apology. So in the future don't be sorry just be careful.
I am a combat veteran ( Vietnam ) . You talked about if killing in war was murder. only God knows for sure. All we can do is hope we are doing the right thing at the time. I am only human so I really don't know all I can do is pray and hope I'm not going to hell because of it. Thank you for this and God bless you.
As long as sin exists, so will war. But don't worry about that. God gave us the gift of forgiveness for sin a long time ago, so long as we trust in him and his Messiah. Thank you for your service. I pray you live long and in peace. 😊
Officers were supposed to lead their men. Only the highest ranking ones stayed somewhat behind the fighting. In the Battle for Okinawa the commanding officer of the operation, Gen. Buckner, was killed while at the front. Ralph, the soldier that lost both legs, was an actual double amputee from an IED in Afghanistan.
I agree with you, but it's not so much Doss's beliefs that are being defended here as his sincerity. To be a conscientious objecter who won the Medal of Honor must take real character.
i was a army medi in the late 80's, we carried a machine gun, we did not do alot of shooting practice, we more learned about the infantry and soldiers weapons, if wound in general the gun or rifle would stay with them, and we had to learn to clear down and make safe a vriety of weapons.
i truly believe Angels were with him the entire time helping give him strength to help more. If all humans in the world would be like him. This world would be amazing
You are 100% wrong about you're going to cry. You bawled along side the majority of us. You are 100% correct about veins and arteries. Great reaction. ❤
So just for anyone who wants to hear more about his whole unit there's a video by a guy Nic who was a soldier. It's titled the Old Bastards and it's about a unit that nobody expected anything from but they came thru in a big way. By the fat electrician.
Japanese targeting medics who wore armbands.You know the atrocities the Japanese military committed throughout Asia.The Nanking massacre; what the Japanese did in the Philippines, etc.War is oftentimes without mercy.
No you're correct about the artery/vein thing, but so is she. Veins carry it towards the heart and arteries away from it. But because arteries are essentially 'powered' by the heart, they spurt at a high pressure like a spray bottle. Whereas veins have a lower but consistent pressure and bleed out like a free-flow
If the movie tried to show everything that Desmond Doss did, it would have been at least four hours long. He is one of very few conscientious objectors who have received the Medal of Honor. A true hero.
Maybe so. But oooohhh they were sorry about the consequences. We ensured that when we brought down Mr. Sun on them twice and took away their ability to have a non-defensive military ever again.
27:10 Lieutenants acting as platoon leaders and Captains as Company commanders ALWAYS lead at the front. Even Majors (brigade commanders) will be pretty close to the action. Officers who are further back are Lt. Colonels, Colonels, and Generals.
In the army, at least the american army, yes, medics carry guns. Most medics are targets during war. So yes, they usually are trained just like everyone else. Now they have civilian doctors who dont, but they arent usually on the battlefield. Theyre off in tents. Theyre still in danger, but not as much as field medics.
26:05 Japan signed, but did not ratify, the 1929 Geneva Convention, among whose rules was the one you remarked on. Even though the Japanese said, after they entered WW2, that they would follow the Geneva Convention, they did not.
I use to climb trees and the rocks all the time. My dad just let me take a beating to toughen me up. I didn't join the service but I got notice in high school when I was turning 18 that I had to join Selective Service aka the draft. My Mom married my Father after dating him for 6 months lol and stayed married till the day he died.
If you want to know more about Desmond Doss and the men he served with, you need to look up the Fat Electrician, Desmond's division were called The Old Bastards because most of them were not Young. They are the 77th Liberty division. The fat electrician does a video on them, and it's highly worth a reaction to it. ua-cam.com/video/0Su5-_KuDf8/v-deo.htmlsi=WyfTZOIkPeAwHj0e
The Japanese Army did not adhere to the Geneva Convention. Although they finally agreed to it in 1942, the rules were seldom followed. They viewed POWs as cowards and often shot the wounded. Although the movie depicts operations on Okinawa, Desmond was already an experienced medic from the Battle for Guam and the Philippines, having earned two Bronze Stars for valor. He was well aware of the Japanese tactic of targeting medics before this battle.
In the actual events, Desmond’s battalion had swept the ridge for several months looking for Desmond’s bible and mailed it to him at the hospital. True loyalty. Unfortunately, the bible would later be stolen during one of Desmond’s reunions in Okinawa and is still missing to this day.
It is killing and taking life in war, but it isn't murder as murder is the unlawful taking of a life without justification or excuse. There are justified situations where individuals (even civilians) are forced to kill, usually to keep themselves or others safe.
Because you mentioned it several times there's a difference between murder and to slay in battle. They're actually different words for it in the Hebrew. In the commandment the word is "murder" not kill. There is a different word used for slaying in battle, putting a criminal to death, as well as to slaughter an animal for food. All different words.
A good officer would be with his men if he could. Even Major Winters would have preferred to be on the line. Because Winters had been promoted to company commander, he had to stay behind the front lines.
Sure plenty have given you the facts about the real Desmond & how 'simplified' (for want of a better word) his real life bravery was for the sake of Hollywood - largely as they thought audiences wouldn't believe just how brave & selfless this man truly was! All I'll say is great reaction! - as a long-time fan of 'Saving Private Ryan', I never thought another war movie could top the emotions that one had portrayed, & stirred up.... until watching this one! Not afraid to say I was in tears (& on the edge of my seat) watching this amazing film!
Imperial Japan didn't have deep enough experience in modern warfare to know the strategic advantages of respecting enemy medics. They didn't understand that the survival of wounded enemies burdens enemy logistics more than death, while also being a long-term problem for morale (people start to envy the wounded for escaping the war). Japan did us many favors in the war, and did itself relatively few.
26:11 It was a war crime for all countries that signed the Geneva Convention. The Japanese never signed that agreement and so could not be charged with war crimes under its stipulations
Sorry, Maguire for me all the way, but Garfield played Desmond doss really well. Seen a lot of interviews with him, fascinating character, with hard to find principles and moral compass
My dad uncle’s were in ww2 my son was in the Iraq war … dad had ptsd till he died…my mom when they first got married had to wake up my dad with a broom because he would jump up to fight .he was over there the same place he was at …
1:08 more dramatized..... they actually left out a lot of Desmonds deeds and thimgs he did, because they thought, the audience would not believe it... in this movie, they really toned down the story and made it smaller than it really was... also hugo weaving should have won an oscar in this... his portrayal of the war damaged, PTSD and survivors guilt ridden man was so on point, that you actually could feel his pain... 8:15 he already sees his son dead... and can´t bear that thought....
If you ever get the chance you should look up what alcoholism did to really change men & their lives when returning home from wars like World War One, and World War Two. It also describes how alcoholism runs in the family because of major wars. My grandma left my gramps because his drinking issues from coming back from Korea, and not being able to control his ptsd at the time with violent outbursts. He got his drinking under control in 1958 though.
In Europe ALL of the countries signed the Geneva Convention and the medics did not have weapons, and the medics were not the targets of the enemy. In the Pacific, Japan signed the Geneva Convention, but the government didn't ratify it and the medics had weapons. In Band of Brothers, the medics on the beach were not targets, but their wounded soldier was. Later the medic charged the German machine gun nest and he did get shot.
The medic didn't "charge the machine gun" in SPR--he was part of the squad, but there's no evidence that he was involved in offensive combat. In both the European and Pacific theaters, medics were authorized to carry self defense weapons like the pistol, and in the latter part of the war the M1 carbine was also allowed as a "self defense sidearm"
First RESPECTFULLY I want to say I am a combat veteran and to say that killing in war is murder might be wrong in that in WW II the Germans gassed six million Jews and the rest of the world for the most part joined in fighting that. Not murder I don't think and unless a person has been in war I at least don't think they should be judged but helped maybe. Thank you for this and God bless you.
The actual location of hacksaw ridge was not a sheer rock face and also not as tall. The movies always go extra big to emphasize things like this. In reality a 6% grade can seem like a wall under fire, but the fighting was extremely fierce nonetheless.
To explain the difference between killing and murdering is quite simple. To murder is killing someone illegally. According to the Geneva Conventions, during war, military members are legal combatants. When nations declare war against each other, their combatants are allowed to kill each other. There are exceptions, such as medics and clergy. But kills in war are NOT murder. You kill your neighbor, that IS murder.
The rock Desmond Doss hid behind while we was lowering soldiers off the cliff is still there at the top of Hacksaw Ridge. It is RIDDLED with bullet holes.
From a catholic perspective (i can't speak for other denominations) murder is a sin, killing depends on the situation, killing in self-defense or in defense of others is okay and, because of the concept of just war, going to war in defense of the innocent is a form of self defense making it not murder.
The army said Desmond brought over 100 down to safety. Desmond said it was only 50. They compromised on 75.
Specifically, it was his captain, his CO (commanding officer) that said 100.
At the beginning of the movie you hear Andrew Garfield as Desmond reading from Isaiah 40:31, "But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength ........ they shall run and not grow weary, and they shall walk and not faint." This passage answers the question, "Where did Desmond get the strength to do what he did. Keep in mind that in a 12 hour period, Desmond carried, dragged, and lowered a minimum of 75 men. Assuming an average weight of 150 lbs. per man 150 X 75= 11,250 lbs that Desmond moved. Anyone that has done roofing work knows how exhausting carrying 75 lbs bundles of shingles can be. When you take into account Desmond's physical condition his feat was even more amazing. Desmond was not a big man. He was 5feet 8inches tall and weighed 145 lbs. Furthermore he suffered from tuberculosis, picked up on Guam or the Philippines, which was diagnosed in 1946 and he was a vegetarian so he didn't get the benefits of meat protein. So, where did Desmond get the strength and stamina? Go back to Isaiah 40:31.
Jesus was with him the whole time!!
Faith can move mountains
That is only about half the number of men he actually got by most reports (He strenuously objected to the numbers they wanted to put on the citation so they toned it down to placate him).
Why taint a good film with your pretend bible?
@wiseblood90
Trigger Warning: Views may be expressed that are not 100.00% identical to yours.
When I was jn school we didn't consider giving a source for a quote "tainting".
He likely didn't realize you would feel your belief system was in imminent danger simoly because others expressed theirs. which would drive you to a preemptive strike to protect your beliefs.
Perhaps he will send you some buttercups along with the note of apology.
Medics and Corpsmen in WWII carried .45 caliber pistol for self defense rifles were considered offensive. Doss's .45 went untouched. Rifle qualification was required to pass boot camp but that did not mean it would be their weapon in daily use. In the European Theater, for the most part, medical personnel were not targeted because they did not carry offensive weapons. In the Pacific it was a very different circumstance. The Japanese deliberately targeted medics & Corpsmen. They quickly learned to stay alive they needed to look just like their soldiers & Marines. That meant they carried & used weapons and they still to this day. In the 80s I carried the 9mm Beretta pistol & the M16A2. In 1990 I stood on Hacksaw Ridge. I was stationed with the Marines on Okinawa. The moment and Doss's accomplishments were not lost on me. Hacksaw Ridge is now a Peace Park dedicated to Doss.
Thank you for your service!!!
Yeah, sometimes on the European theater medics were hit. Because the heat of battle could get too hectic, And they'll be hit by mistake. And thank you for your service. From a man in the Army.
Thank you for sharing information I did not know. I joined the Navy at 17 to become a Corpsman. I was in when Saigon fell. I remember in Corps school they told us when deployed remove anything that designated you as a medic. They told us that the enemy targets certain people... first officers to create chaos, medics second because they figured by taking out the medic you eliminate at least 10-20 souls that the medic can't save. In that era, I was never going to be deployed due to being female, but I hoped for a hospital ship. I thought this was the mindset of most enemy combatants. I didn't know in WWII in the European theater medics were not targeted simply because they were medics. Never too late to learn something. Thanks for your service, from one Doc to another.
By most accounts Desmond Doss carried well over 100 men to safety on Hacksaw Ridge, including Japanese soldiers. He was so humble he said he didn't do more than 25. Congress averaged it out and just said he saved 75 for his medal. He was definitely one of the best men who ever existed.
His father was a US Marine that fought at the Battle of Belleau Wood, it was known for its brutality and loss of life. The Marines were outnumbered badly but refused to withdraw and kept fighting even hand to hand at times.
Odd moment, but shout out to Dan Daly.
@@nickschnider9191 - "Do you wanna live forever" - Dan Daly -- recipient of TWO Congressional Medals of Honor --- and he deserved three.
I didn't realize his father fought at bellow wood. I would have guessed the trenches but I didn't research him as it were. Hell of a man.
There are fiifty plus families living today because of this man.
@pebblehilllane Semper Fidelis. I'm not a marine so I believe I have to write it out.
You’re right, shooting medics is a war crime as outlined by the Geneva Conventions, BUT… Japan had not recognized nor signed the Geneva Conventions at the time this event happened. So to them at that time, shooting medics was fair game. Japan did not formally sign the Geneva Conventions until 1953 I believe.
Middle Eastern countries we've fought who have also signed the Geneva conventions also literally try to kill medics, but since we weren't technically fighting the government except in syria and in Iraq, they go away with it.
that and as we have seen in recent memory, leadership tends not to care about whether something is a war crime or not.
Your emotional reaction is well received. It's hard not to feel something for this hero's story. Brave, unselfish, patriotic, and truly heroic man he was. Great reaction.
In some significant ways, this excellent true story of Desmond Doss was toned down to make it more believable. However, there are some things that were changed that you might want to know about. Doss and his unit had actually taken part in two previous Pacific island invasions before they got to Okinawa, and Doss had actually been decorated with the Bronze Star for Valor twice in the second battle, so Desmond was already a well respected member of the unit before Hacksaw Ridge. You can understand why they decided to compress the story entirely to the Okinawa campaign to keep the story easier to understand. Some of the other changes they made are also understandable, such as they amped up the drama of the trial a lot, and the situation where he leaves his wife at the altar while he sits in a cell is not quite the way that happened.
The website History vs Hollywood article on this movie is pretty good, and covers most the of the stuff that they changed or were mistaken about.
can go one better you should realy check out " The Fat Electrician " video he did on the regiment, its an amazing story about this special regiment, its called " Old Age & Treachery - The Unstoppable 77th Infantry Division "
@@maddermax74 That is an excellent video
You should know that the helmets of WW2 would almost never stop a bullet...that is not what they weree meant to do. Sometimes, a pistol shot might glance off if it did not hit squarely, but more powerful rounds like machine gun and rifle bullets would pretty much always go through. Helmets back then were mostly meant to reduce shrapnel wounds and other mundane injuries to the head, but offered not much protection from bullets.
Modern helmets still serve the same purpose. Mostly protection from shrapnel, debris and if you're lucky ricochets as well. Some modern kevlar helmets can stop bullets from going through, even rifle ammunition if hit from a certain angle. 9/10 times the impact will still kill you. Either a skull fracture, broken neck or the kevlar itself will pierce straight into your brain.
in the bible there is a distinction between Murder and killing in defense or war
Yes, but there is a difference between war & the killing of innocent elderly and children (genocide). Becareful what you lust for.
I believe it was King David who actually wrote a psalm praising God for teaching his hands to make war and bringing him victory against the enemies of Israel.
In that fantasy book there are a lot of stupid things. Like you can't eat shrimp but you can mutilate babies penises.
That's the power of faith: When the Good Lord is with you, nothing is impossible. God bless Desmond Doss and his family! God bless all the courageous veterans with nerves of steel who risked everything and sacrificed so much to protect our countries and preserve the freedoms we enjoy today! God bless all the souls - military and civilian - that we have lost in times of war! God bless America! God bless us all and grant us peace!
I love when the captain calls him "Soldier". Final honor and recognition. Greatest hero of all time.
"I hate blood."
Oh my sweet summer child, this is going to be an unpleasant experience for you then. >.>
My biggest objection to HACKSAW RIDGE is the portrayal of Thomas Doss as an abusive alcoholic. There is no evidence that he was ever violent towards his family. He did abuse alcohol after returning from WW1, but eventually stopped drinking. I have no issues with the other liberties Mel Gibson takes in this movie as he is trying to convey the hell the Army put Desmond through. I must add that the movie does not even come close to the crap the Army through at Desmond during his training.
I heard the scene where he pulled the gun with the mom was really with his uncle but they simplified for story purposes.
Also, the hacksaw ridge fight wasn't the first time that division went into battle. 77th division was an experimental unit nicknamed the "old bastards" and the average age in the group was 33. It became the most effective division in the army for the Pacific theater and their first battle earned them the respect of the Marines, which wasn't an easy accomplishment for army units on Pacific islands. They were specifically brought to Okinawa and held in reserve until leadership could find out where they were needed most and hacksaw ridge was one of the strongest fortifications on the island so they got sent there. Desmond was already respected by his squad mates before that battle.
I just have to say, a panda sneezing is probably the cutest thing in the world. Second place goes to an angry British women; "He's making me really cross".
Desmond was sent to a rifle company by mistake and the Army being the Army, correcting a mistake is the last thing on their minds. Medics did have the option to carry a weapon for self-defense. Quite a few medics in the Pacific carried weapons to protect themselves and the wounded. It was Thomas Doss's constant writing to commanding officers that finally got Desmond transferred to medic training, but that didn't end the crap he had to deal with.😊 Thomas Doss kept fighting for fair treatment for his son throughout his training.
Typically most medics in WW2 didn't use rifles but had a pistol for self defense, most didn't target them in Europe, but the Japanese on the other hand made it a point to single them out so the medics had to adapt, in the movie it touches on this a bit when the other medics tell doss not to wear any medical identification on his person at all, but this actually changed how medic corps operated even to this day because the medics in the Pacific theatre all carried rifles and fought just as the army and marines did to blend in better in between fulfilling their medical duties, nowadays there's a saying that the single most important medical tool a field doc carries is his rifle, it let's them lay down suppressing fire so they can have space to work and helps them prevent future injuries by making sure the enemy isn't alive to cause them, WW2 changed the course of America's wartime doctrines into overwhelming aggression on all fronts.
@@snowpegasiMedics did have to have a knowledge of weapons so as to make them safe thus preventing accidents.
“I thought that was a war crime, shooting medics” babe just wait till you find out what else the Japanese did lol
This goes for all nations involved in major conflicts. Total war is much different than modern peace missions. 'Geneva guidelines' is a commonly used phrase for a reason.
The list of Japan's war crimes between 1937 and 1945 is absolutely insane. Nanling and unit 731 were the worst
Japan’s army at that time WAS A war crime!
@@patrickevans9604 I have a pretty strong stomach but I CANNOT listen to or read anything about Unit 731. I started listening to a podcast episode about their atrocities once, and as soon as I heard “pregnant women” and “elderly” I had to shut it off.
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac yea that unit was so bad they made Nazis cringe. Sadly, some of the things they learned through the "tests" has done wonders for the medical field. The US government helped keep most of it under wraps in exchange for Japan turning over the knowledge of the human body that their atrocities taught them.
In HACKSAW RIDGE you see several of the reasons why battle against the Japanese was so incredibly brutal. The Japanese believed that surrender was the ultimate disgrace. They also believed that their lives belonged to the Emperor and all other races were less than human. Military training taught the Japanese soldier to be pitiless, ruthless, and to die. These are the reasons why so few Japanese ever became POWs.
While the Japanese signed the 1907 Convention at the Hague and the 1899 Geneva Convention delineating war crimes they did not abide by them. In HACKSAW RIDGE you see 3 war crimes as outlined by the Conventions.
1. Killing medics: It was and still is a war crime to target all medical personnel unless they are engaged in battle. The Japanese actually paid their soldiers a premium for killing medics. In SAVING PRIVATE RYAN you actually see a Red Cross flag flying at the aid station on Omaha Beach. The medics and the priest are not targeted. The Nazis actually followed the Geneva Convention on the Western Front.
2. Killing helpless wounded: The Conventions prohibited the killing of helpless wounded.
3. Using a white flag to gain an advantage while attacking an enemy.
The Battle for Hacksaw Ridge was especially brutal because the battlefield was so confined on the escarpment. The underground tunnel system and caves the Japanese had dug was described by the men that fought that battle as an underground battleship. Total American deaths on Okinawa was 12,500. Total deaths on Hacksaw Ridge was almost 2500. Japanese KIAs on Hacksaw was 5000.
That's why Truman had no choice but use new weapon (Atomic Bombs) during WWII against Japan because military was planning full scale invasion on Japan knowing every Japanese will fight to the death causing American and Allies casualties. Military knew the power of those bombs when they did Trinity Test in Nevada prior to those drops on Hiroshima and Nagasaki making Emperor to surrender ending the war. But those bombs opened nuclear weapon genie out its bottle. New bombs today can scorch Earth end life as we know it......
Truman did not know of Manhattan Project (development of nuclear weapons) until he became President after FDR died.
@@MrTech226 Yes, apropos of what?
Key to this...the Japanese were _not_ signatories to the Geneva Conventions, so they weren't subject to their restrictions.
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Doesn't make it NOT a dick move. And, hey, once you're the loser of a war you are at the mercy of the victor. That is the time that war crimes start getting enforced on, and damn whether you actually agreed to them in the first place.
Thank you for doing this fantastic film, keeping those of that Greatest Generation in present memory. Men like Doss & Eugene (from BoB) brought honor to the many medics who served. Just a story of a guy forged by the Great Depression, tough childhood & a time where values were regarded. (Have a suggestion for your next WWII film; “Unbroken”…true story of Louie Zamporini, an Army Air Corps crewman in the Pacific.)
Please watch The Conscientious Objector ( a fan made documentary from which the interviews at the end are from ) and his autobiography. He makes u want to be a better human.
He has a hospital and a school named after him . His story is still taught to recruits to this day to show what one man is capable of if he truly believes he can.
The president said to him while giving him his medal that it was the proudest moment of his life to give him this medal.
36:26 There are so many of them because that is ALL OF THEM attacking all at once. These attacks were referred to as "Banzai Charges", where the Japanese gathered all of their men (many of whom who spent the night before getting drunk on Sake) and told them to wipe out the enemy or die trying. These attacks were typically desperate attempts to turn the tide of the battle but they rarely did. More often than not they were suicide charges.
Lynchburg VA is in the western part of the state in the Shenandoah River Valley betwewn the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Appalachians. The Coastal Plain east of the Blue Ridge is likely the flatter area you were thinking of.
"How does he know who these people are when they are covered in dirt...?" When I was deployed, I knew who my guys (all several dozens of them) where by their movements, their walks, and I could pick them out by their silhouettes at 300 meters through grainy night vision; even I was a bit surprised the first night I recognized was doing it. Nothing brings people together quite like an existential external threat-and I mean that without irony. Civilians understand the concept, writers parrot the experiences of veterans to ignorant audiences, but living is quiet remarkable.
The movie hacksaw Ridge takes place on the island of Okinawa. Okinawa was a crucial part of the war plan for the allies during World War II. The airfield on Okinawa was the staging point for the planes that dropped the nuclear bombs on Japan, and ended the war. Okinawa was A key strategic position that had to be taken. That’s why hacksaw Ridge was so important to the allied and American forces. That’s why they kept sending troops to take the ridge.
Actually the planes that dropped the two atomic bombs on Japan were based on Tinian Island
Look up the Fat Electrician's story of The Old Bastards. The 77th Infantry Division was famous. That is the Division in this movie...
The 77th Marines, the Old Bastards, the Statue of Liberty Division. These guys get ALL the cool nicknames!
@@robertlombardo8437they definitely deserved the respect people had for them.
Fun fact: Desmond was married before he went into the military. Also, the scene with Desmond holding a gun up to his dad was actually Desmond's Uncle and dad.
Fun Fact: During the real life events they didn’t stop the barrage so Doss did everything under constant walking mortar fire.
Doss also saw a LOT MORE combat before the grenade took him out.
And even then he got off the stretcher for a more critically wounded man and ended up having to crawl all the way back to friendly lines.
Asking forgiveness is bigger then saying im sorry. Forgiveness means i acknowledge my failure and asking you that you forgive me for it so we can start over on better terms and a better mind.
So the Captain in a sense did say, Im sorry...just more ''formally''
Just as the scene gets interesting and we're about to see a star moment, your face pops up right in the middle of the good bits. 😂❤ the centre shots are the funniest. 😅😂❤
Not only is this a true story. The 77th Infantry Division was made up of older married men. While Divisions tended to be young. The average age of the 77th was 33 or 34 years old. They were extremely skilled and well trained. They were the best marksmen in the army. They were so good the kill ratio was nearly 40 to 1 and statistically speaking the chance of dying in the 77th was low. They knew what they were doing and did it extremely well.
The 77th was not part of the attack on Okinawa. They were in reserve. Once they discovered the Hacksaw Ridge was a problem that was killing lots of men, they sent in the 77th as problem solvers. They solved Hacksaw Ridge fairly quickly.
Desmond was injured a few miles away about 2 or 3 weeks after they had taken Hacksaw Ridge.
The story of the 77th Infantry Division is legendary. They were that good.
What are your sources about the "older married men" in the 77th Div.?
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523they were nicknamed the old bastards. They were reinstated in 1942 as an experimental unit. They wanted older men for their life experience and it turned out to be one of the best infantry divisions in the pacific theater
@ericyirka684 also known as the 77th Marine Division
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523look up the fat electrician and go find his video about the old bastards. They trained for 2 years in every impossible situation available on American soil and became the most effective American division in the Pacific
And actually I think their kill ratio was much higher than 40 to 1. They also were so feared by the Japanese that most refused to surrender to them at all.
Excellent reaction. I spent 10 years in the Army and was in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Combat is something that affects you in ways that you would never consider possible unless you go through it. And the combat I went through was nothing like this, ours was over in 4 days. Somethings that a lot of people don't consider until they go into the military. One thing is that the cheapest equipment that the military can replace in combat is the soldier. Also you swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. Nowhere do you say you are protected by it. Just kind of putting it into perspective. Again, great reaction.
Apparently they only put half the things he did in real life in the movie because they were so unbelievable that they thought audiences wouldn't believe it!🤯
The knot Desmond used in the movie is called a Spanish Bowline. It's used in mountain rescues.
46:10 Saying "sorry" is NOT an apology it is a sign of weakness, what he said was one of the best sincere apologies i have ever heard spoken. You have it backward lady, whoever told you saying sorry was apologizing owes you an apology. So in the future don't be sorry just be careful.
I am a combat veteran ( Vietnam ) . You talked about if killing in war was murder. only God knows for sure. All we can do is hope we are doing the right thing at the time. I am only human so I really don't know all I can do is pray and hope I'm not going to hell because of it. Thank you for this and God bless you.
As long as sin exists, so will war. But don't worry about that. God gave us the gift of forgiveness for sin a long time ago, so long as we trust in him and his Messiah.
Thank you for your service. I pray you live long and in peace. 😊
@@robertlombardo8437 I don't know you but I wish I did. Thank you sir you gave me a lot of peace of mind and heart. God bless you
Officers were supposed to lead their men. Only the highest ranking ones stayed somewhat behind the fighting. In the Battle for Okinawa the commanding officer of the operation, Gen. Buckner, was killed while at the front. Ralph, the soldier that lost both legs, was an actual double amputee from an IED in Afghanistan.
I just wish people keep praying for war to end and to help those who are trapped in war traumas before and after.
The fifth commandment is "You shall not murder." Not you shall not kill.
I agree with you, but it's not so much Doss's beliefs that are being defended here as his sincerity. To be a conscientious objecter who won the Medal of Honor must take real character.
• "The Pacific"
• "The Outpost"
• "Saving Private Ryan"
• "Dances With Wolves"
• "Lone Survivor"
• "Forrest Gump"
Just to name a few...
i was a army medi in the late 80's, we carried a machine gun, we did not do alot of shooting practice, we more learned about the infantry and soldiers weapons, if wound in general the gun or rifle would stay with them, and we had to learn to clear down and make safe a vriety of weapons.
i truly believe Angels were with him the entire time helping give him strength to help more. If all humans in the world would be like him. This world would be amazing
You are 100% wrong about you're going to cry. You bawled along side the majority of us. You are 100% correct about veins and arteries. Great reaction. ❤
So just for anyone who wants to hear more about his whole unit there's a video by a guy Nic who was a soldier. It's titled the Old Bastards and it's about a unit that nobody expected anything from but they came thru in a big way. By the fat electrician.
Japanese targeting medics who wore armbands.You know the atrocities the Japanese military committed throughout Asia.The Nanking massacre; what the Japanese did in the Philippines, etc.War is oftentimes without mercy.
Read as much as you can about this man. He did a lot more than this in service to his country, too. Just an amazing, beautiful human being.
We use to do that there were 7 kids …we hang off rails swing about 40 feet or more do flips…
48:04 you know there's a way to find out if Doss dies and that's the be quiet be patient and watch till the end
I can't stop watching reaction videos about '1917'. One of the best films of the 21st century. Have a look when you find the time.
No you're correct about the artery/vein thing, but so is she. Veins carry it towards the heart and arteries away from it. But because arteries are essentially 'powered' by the heart, they spurt at a high pressure like a spray bottle. Whereas veins have a lower but consistent pressure and bleed out like a free-flow
Research the fighting 77th doss was in. It explains alot
The one movie that absolutely destroyed me was "Schindler's List". It's a really hard, but required watch.
If the movie tried to show everything that Desmond Doss did, it would have been at least four hours long. He is one of very few conscientious objectors who have received the Medal of Honor. A true hero.
Keep in mind Japan still to this day has never apologized for their atrocities against soldiers and civilians during the war.
Maybe so. But oooohhh they were sorry about the consequences. We ensured that when we brought down Mr. Sun on them twice and took away their ability to have a non-defensive military ever again.
27:10 Lieutenants acting as platoon leaders and Captains as Company commanders ALWAYS lead at the front. Even Majors (brigade commanders) will be pretty close to the action. Officers who are further back are Lt. Colonels, Colonels, and Generals.
I cry more than u. I was in from 2004 to 2008 and all kinds of feels come up. Great reaction
In the army, at least the american army, yes, medics carry guns. Most medics are targets during war. So yes, they usually are trained just like everyone else. Now they have civilian doctors who dont, but they arent usually on the battlefield. Theyre off in tents. Theyre still in danger, but not as much as field medics.
26:05 Japan signed, but did not ratify, the 1929 Geneva Convention, among whose rules was the one you remarked on. Even though the Japanese said, after they entered WW2, that they would follow the Geneva Convention, they did not.
You should watch the video called "Old Age and Treachery" by "The Fat Electrician. It covers the history of Desmond's unit.
I use to climb trees and the rocks all the time. My dad just let me take a beating to toughen me up. I didn't join the service but I got notice in high school when I was turning 18 that I had to join Selective Service aka the draft. My Mom married my Father after dating him for 6 months lol and stayed married till the day he died.
Yes that is what Virginia looks like in the southwestern part in the Blue Ridge Mountains
40:47 you see Desmond doss has these things called eyes and ears and I'm pretty sure he use those two things to know when it was safe to move
some of the men Desmond saved say it was closer to 150 but the army did not believe that number and Desmond down played the number
War is terrible. Everyone suffers. Desmond Dawes had so much light in him even war couldn't extinguish it.
If you want to know more about Desmond Doss and the men he served with, you need to look up the Fat Electrician, Desmond's division were called The Old Bastards because most of them were not Young. They are the 77th Liberty division. The fat electrician does a video on them, and it's highly worth a reaction to it.
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@alaneskew2664 you beat me to this comment The Fat Electrician's video is indeed worth a watch for context.
The Japanese Army did not adhere to the Geneva Convention. Although they finally agreed to it in 1942, the rules were seldom followed. They viewed POWs as cowards and often shot the wounded. Although the movie depicts operations on Okinawa, Desmond was already an experienced medic from the Battle for Guam and the Philippines, having earned two Bronze Stars for valor. He was well aware of the Japanese tactic of targeting medics before this battle.
In the actual events, Desmond’s battalion had swept the ridge for several months looking for Desmond’s bible and mailed it to him at the hospital. True loyalty. Unfortunately, the bible would later be stolen during one of Desmond’s reunions in Okinawa and is still missing to this day.
Crying because of emotions is never ugly crying. It's genuine. And genuine reactions are why people watch reaction videos.
Not a fan of this saying "ugly crying" it is just crying. Nothing wrong with showing emotion and having feelings, you are human after all
One of the best war movies I’ve ever seen, especially since it was true. Mel Gibson knows how to make movies.
It is killing and taking life in war, but it isn't murder as murder is the unlawful taking of a life without justification or excuse. There are justified situations where individuals (even civilians) are forced to kill, usually to keep themselves or others safe.
he was with one of the most feared units in ww2
Tunnels. They dug tunnels into the mountains
Because you mentioned it several times there's a difference between murder and to slay in battle. They're actually different words for it in the Hebrew. In the commandment the word is "murder" not kill. There is a different word used for slaying in battle, putting a criminal to death, as well as to slaughter an animal for food. All different words.
A good officer would be with his men if he could. Even Major Winters would have preferred to be on the line. Because Winters had been promoted to company commander, he had to stay behind the front lines.
you made me cry with all your tears.
Sure plenty have given you the facts about the real Desmond & how 'simplified' (for want of a better word) his real life bravery was for the sake of Hollywood - largely as they thought audiences wouldn't believe just how brave & selfless this man truly was!
All I'll say is great reaction! - as a long-time fan of 'Saving Private Ryan', I never thought another war movie could top the emotions that one had portrayed, & stirred up.... until watching this one!
Not afraid to say I was in tears (& on the edge of my seat) watching this amazing film!
When I first saw this film and that guy screams in the other guys face and then he gets blown to shit that absolutely terrified awesome reaction.
42:55 good for you for knowing he helped a couple Japanese out you want a gold star
Imperial Japan didn't have deep enough experience in modern warfare to know the strategic advantages of respecting enemy medics. They didn't understand that the survival of wounded enemies burdens enemy logistics more than death, while also being a long-term problem for morale (people start to envy the wounded for escaping the war). Japan did us many favors in the war, and did itself relatively few.
Nice video.
My sister married into a Gaddis Familia 😉
26:11 It was a war crime for all countries that signed the Geneva Convention. The Japanese never signed that agreement and so could not be charged with war crimes under its stipulations
Sorry, Maguire for me all the way, but Garfield played Desmond doss really well. Seen a lot of interviews with him, fascinating character, with hard to find principles and moral compass
My dad uncle’s were in ww2 my son was in the Iraq war … dad had ptsd till he died…my mom when they first got married had to wake up my dad with a broom because he would jump up to fight .he was over there the same place he was at …
the part that desmond said he didn't eat meat was not shown in the USA.
1:08 more dramatized.....
they actually left out a lot of Desmonds deeds and thimgs he did, because they thought, the audience would not believe it...
in this movie, they really toned down the story and made it smaller than it really was...
also hugo weaving should have won an oscar in this... his portrayal of the war damaged, PTSD and survivors guilt ridden man was so on point, that you actually could feel his pain...
8:15 he already sees his son dead... and can´t bear that thought....
If you ever get the chance you should look up what alcoholism did to really change men & their lives when returning home from wars like World War One, and World War Two. It also describes how alcoholism runs in the family because of major wars.
My grandma left my gramps because his drinking issues from coming back from Korea, and not being able to control his ptsd at the time with violent outbursts. He got his drinking under control in 1958 though.
In Europe ALL of the countries signed the Geneva Convention and the medics did not have weapons, and the medics were not the targets of the enemy. In the Pacific, Japan signed the Geneva Convention, but the government didn't ratify it and the medics had weapons. In Band of Brothers, the medics on the beach were not targets, but their wounded soldier was. Later the medic charged the German machine gun nest and he did get shot.
The medic didn't "charge the machine gun" in SPR--he was part of the squad, but there's no evidence that he was involved in offensive combat. In both the European and Pacific theaters, medics were authorized to carry self defense weapons like the pistol, and in the latter part of the war the M1 carbine was also allowed as a "self defense sidearm"
Carrying a weapon? Yes I did to protect my casualties 😊
West Virginia is very mountainous.
Not tall ones like the Rockys, but still mountainous.
First RESPECTFULLY I want to say I am a combat veteran and to say that killing in war is murder might be wrong in that in WW II the Germans gassed six million Jews and the rest of the world for the most part joined in fighting that. Not murder I don't think and unless a person has been in war I at least don't think they should be judged but helped maybe. Thank you for this and God bless you.
This movie was filmed in Australia
The Japanese tunnel shown, is on Cockatoo Island.
The actual location of hacksaw ridge was not a sheer rock face and also not as tall. The movies always go extra big to emphasize things like this.
In reality a 6% grade can seem like a wall under fire, but the fighting was extremely fierce nonetheless.
Saving Private Ryan, Schindler‘s list, Rambo, first blood, all are war movies that require you to have a tissue box nearby 😢
I was crying with you and I’ve seen the movie about 20 times😂
To explain the difference between killing and murdering is quite simple. To murder is killing someone illegally. According to the Geneva Conventions, during war, military members are legal combatants. When nations declare war against each other, their combatants are allowed to kill each other. There are exceptions, such as medics and clergy. But kills in war are NOT murder. You kill your neighbor, that IS murder.
Sweet Reaction,God Bless!
Beautiful reaction.
The rock Desmond Doss hid behind while we was lowering soldiers off the cliff is still there at the top of Hacksaw Ridge. It is RIDDLED with bullet holes.
My Great-Grandmother used to tell me...."Honey, it pays to Trust the Lord."
People that dont go back up, dont win wars!
From a catholic perspective (i can't speak for other denominations) murder is a sin, killing depends on the situation, killing in self-defense or in defense of others is okay and, because of the concept of just war, going to war in defense of the innocent is a form of self defense making it not murder.