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  • @coldflamebluedragon196
    @coldflamebluedragon196 6 місяців тому +81

    This is one of my favorite War movies. The fact that Desmond’s children said Garfield’s performance was on point as their father gave more credibility for this incredible film

  • @thecaptain3594
    @thecaptain3594 7 місяців тому +182

    A lot of people call themselves Christians. A lot of people are Christians. But Christians who live out their faith with the purity and devotion that Desmond Doss did are extremely rare. Desmond Doss is an incredible inspiration. I don't agree with his take on absolute nonviolence, the Bible doesn't really teach that, but it is incredible seeing someone stick by their convictions with such unflinching devotion.

    • @housethemous
      @housethemous 6 місяців тому

      Less and less people are calling themselves Christians everyday. Good riddance.

    • @MikeBronson515
      @MikeBronson515 6 місяців тому

      If he didn’t have other Christians doing the killing for him…war would’ve been lost

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 6 місяців тому +3

      What do you mean? We are still the children of Yahweh, the God that asked our ancestors to wipe out the Amalekites. Jesus himself said that anyone who causes of his little ones to sin should be drowned in the depths of the sea. Christ was not completely passive.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 6 місяців тому +7

      Desmond didnt pick up a gun because of what happened with his father. Most of us haven't pointed a gun at our father

    • @mikealvarez2322
      @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@LukeLovesRoseHe also told his disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword. Evil must be utterly destroyed.

  • @JoeBLOWFHB
    @JoeBLOWFHB 6 місяців тому +23

    There is one thing the movie got wrong the men under Desmond's care already knew he wasn't a coward as he had already been awarded two Bronze stars with "V" device for valor under fire months before Hacksaw. He also did a lot of stuff not shown in the movie but listed in his MoH citation.
    Desmond Doss Medal of Honor citation -
    "He was a company aidman when the 1st Battalion assaulted a jagged escarpment 400 feet high. As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar, and machine-gun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying them one by one to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands.
    On 2 May, he exposed himself to heavy rifle and mortar fire in rescuing a wounded man 200 yards forward of the lines on the same escarpment; and two days later he treated four men who had been cut down while assaulting a strongly defended cave, advancing through a shower of grenades to within eight yards of enemy forces in a cave's mouth, where he dressed his comrades' wounds before making four separate trips under fire to evacuate them to safety.
    On 5 May, he unhesitatingly braved enemy shelling and small-arms fire to assist an artillery officer. He applied bandages, moved his patient to a spot that offered protection from small-arms fire, and, while artillery and mortar shells fell close by, painstakingly administered plasma. Later that day, when an American was severely wounded by fire from a cave, Pfc. Doss crawled to him where he had fallen 25 feet from the enemy position, rendered aid, and carried him 100 yards to safety while continually exposed to enemy fire.
    On 21 May, in a night attack on high ground near Shuri, he remained in exposed territory while the rest of his company took cover, fearlessly risking the chance that he would be mistaken for an infiltrating Japanese and giving aid to the injured until he was himself seriously wounded in the legs by the explosion of a grenade. Rather than call another aidman from cover, he cared for his own injuries and waited five hours before litter bearers reached him and started carrying him to cover.
    The trio was caught in an enemy tank attack and Pfc. Doss, seeing a more critically wounded man nearby, crawled off the litter and directed the bearers to give their first attention to the other man. Awaiting the litter bearers' return, he was again struck, this time suffering a compound fracture of one arm. With magnificent fortitude he bound a rifle stock to his shattered arm as a splint and then crawled 300 yards over rough terrain to the aid station.
    Through his outstanding bravery and unflinching determination in the face of desperately dangerous conditions Pfc. Doss saved the lives of many soldiers. His name became a symbol throughout the 77th Infantry Division for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty.”
    Look up "Desmond Doss This is Your Life" here on YT to meet Desmond his family and some of the men her saved. Above all you get to see how truly humble he was.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 5 місяців тому +1

      It wasn't a matter of deliberately "getting something wrong." The movie focuses on Hacksaw Ridge and makes it the turning point for the other soldiers' acceptance of Doss, to heighten the drama. The movie also underplays what Desmond is actually documented as having done, because audiences wouldn't believe it.

  • @philmullineaux5405
    @philmullineaux5405 6 місяців тому +46

    For ur info, helmets aren't designed to take direct hits, they work for flying debris, indirect shots and exploding shrapnel. New helmets can stop some direct shots, but not large bullets.

    • @genericfakename8197
      @genericfakename8197 6 місяців тому +3

      This is an important detail about military helmets. They're for shrapnel and flying rocks, essentially a construction helmet painted green. It would be insane to be in a warzone without one but they won't stop any bullets.

    • @benschultz1784
      @benschultz1784 6 місяців тому +1

      There were helmets back in WWI that could stop the direct impact of a rifle round; the problem was they were so heavy they were only issued to snipers, sentries, machine gunners, and other static troops. There was also the chance that the wearer would still die from the bullet impacting his helmet breaking his neck.

    • @genericfakename8197
      @genericfakename8197 6 місяців тому +1

      @@benschultz1784 Don't forget the potential to injure your neck just by wearing the thing. There's a pretty solid mass limit on any helmet, your head being a bowling ball on a toothpick and all. That's why modern helmets are advanced kevlar composites and shit, to get more protection without increasing the weight of the helmet you need to make it out of something else.
      At the end of the day the stats don't lie and they say getting shot in the head is extremely uncommon and getting hit in the head by debris is extremely common. Therefore a thin steel construction-style helmet will save a great deal of lives even if bullets pass through it without slowing down.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 5 місяців тому +1

      The extended streak of metal on Doss's helmet suggests that the bullet struck it at a glancing angle, not directly tip-first.

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 6 місяців тому +80

    Keep in mind: Garfield is 6 feet tall, but Doss in real life was 5 feet 8 inches & not as physically strong as Garfield, so knowing this makes the fact that over 2 days Doss saved over 70 lives even more impressive.

    • @theveryworstluck1894
      @theveryworstluck1894 6 місяців тому +8

      by all accounts he saved around 125 lives on hacksaw ridge, but yes it was impressive

    • @micheletrainor1601
      @micheletrainor1601 2 місяці тому

      It was over 100 people he saved from the ridge but Desmond Doss being the very humble man he was didn't want to be boastful so he said 50 for his medal of but they reached the compromise of 75. In actual fact in the three battles he was involved in, two previous battles in the Pacific if you add all the people he saved is just over 300. For the lives he saved he the two previous battles he was twice decorated with the bronze star too just like his father was. Mel Gibson said that he had to leave out so much of what he did because if he actually had put it all in nobody would believe a single word of any of it. He actually had tuberculosis at the time too so he was coughing up up blood and had to stiffle his coughing so as not to give away his location while saving soldiers. He was diagnosed while recovering from all the wounds he suffered and lost a lung to it. I highly recommend his autobiography as its absolutely incredible I read it decades ago and can remember it all. His story is actually still taught to soldiers in the states to this day to show u what one man is capable of if he truly believes he can. Its a book that stays with you for life and makes you want to be a better human being.

    • @patriciahetherington3380
      @patriciahetherington3380 2 місяці тому

      They say he saved 150 men he disagreed so the agreed an amount half way.

  • @99subetai
    @99subetai 6 місяців тому +19

    "With the world so set on tearing itself apart, it don’t seem like such a bad thing to me to wanna put a little bit of it back together." - Desmond Doss
    Has a better line ever been spoken in a movie?

  • @jamesshilale2967
    @jamesshilale2967 6 місяців тому +6

    You guys have the most organic, natural reactions to movies. Thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping it natural. It allows others and myself to relive the movie for the first time. Brava!!! 👏🙏

  • @TemplarbladeDK
    @TemplarbladeDK 6 місяців тому +13

    The US knew that there was tunnels connecting the bunkers,but had no idea where the entrances was,the japanese soldier fought with no fear of death because it was an honour to die in battle.

  • @adadcheetus5404
    @adadcheetus5404 6 місяців тому +13

    The steel helmet, like modern composite helmets are not made to stop rifle or machine gun-bullets. They are made to protect the head from shrapnel, and possibly ricochets.
    Steel helmets started being issued during world war 1, and as a result shrapnel wounds to the head decreased very much.

    • @matthiasewert3587
      @matthiasewert3587 6 місяців тому +1

      Helmets are resistant against pistols,like 9mm, but nothing more.

  • @brunomeza
    @brunomeza 6 місяців тому +27

    If a man abandons his ideals, it is the same as dying
    We can say what we want about Mel Gibson, but the man knows how to make a movie

    • @machtnichtsseimann
      @machtnichtsseimann 6 місяців тому +2

      If you're implying that Cardinal Sin of his from years ago, he paid his dues.
      ( See Robert Downey Jr.'s plea years ago for reference. )
      People who don't value humility, forgiveness, love, will puff themselves up with pride in judging him. S/he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    • @brunomeza
      @brunomeza 6 місяців тому +1

      @@machtnichtsseimann I didn't mean that, I just talk about ideals, the way you want to live

    • @micheletrainor1601
      @micheletrainor1601 2 місяці тому

      ​@@brunomezathen why mention it in the first place? It's because that's what u were on about. Yet there are thousands out there right now waving hamas/ Palestinian flags shouting from the river to the sea . Yet NOBODY says anything about that but a absolutely paralytic person got pulled over decades ago says some v unsavoury things and nobody let's him forget about it its not like he kept going on about it like Kanye and others have done in recent years. Jeez. It's just people make mistakes especially people who have substance abuse issues. It's annoying as it just perpetuates hate.

  • @ryan_hawks12
    @ryan_hawks12 7 місяців тому +17

    Honestly one of my favorite war movies ever, but this and Saving Private Ryan are incredibly hard to watch due to the sheer brutality that unfolds! But it’s still an amazing movie with an incredible performance from Andrew Garfield (who got an Oscar nomination for it)!

  • @ryan_hawks12
    @ryan_hawks12 7 місяців тому +11

    You ladies are my favorite reactors on UA-cam, I loved watching this again with you! There were actually several more parts of Desmond’s story they left out because didn’t think people would believe it, truly incredible!

  • @andylawler3207
    @andylawler3207 6 місяців тому +5

    As someone who grew up in the same city as DD, I always love seeing reactions to this movie. I think about them every time I'm on Desmond Doss Highway.

  • @user-ij3mz1be7x
    @user-ij3mz1be7x 6 місяців тому +3

    I've been to Hacksaw Ridge. It's surreal to have been in the actual spot where all this took place.

  • @Brandawn69
    @Brandawn69 6 місяців тому +3

    11:05 you ask “why are they doing this?” In the Military “Mass Punishment” is the earliest form of punishment you are introduced to. If you mess up, all of your peers are punished along side you. It’s a tactic to influence people to not want to make mistakes out of fear of their friends also being punished. Sometimes tho it results in retaliation to the individual

  • @donaldsmith283
    @donaldsmith283 5 місяців тому +2

    I spent two years in vietnam fighting the war. This movie really hit my soul and my heart. Thank you. I'm watching more of your channel.❤❤😊😊

  • @williamlynn6084
    @williamlynn6084 6 місяців тому +5

    Truly is an amazing story about 1 person And his effect With his faith And his interaction with others.

  • @gazlator
    @gazlator 6 місяців тому +1

    A really heartfelt, sincere reaction from Ellie & Mish, for a sincerely moving and powerful film. The Homies wear their hearts on their sleeves, and we love them for it.

  • @mikealvarez2322
    @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому +2

    Michelle had the perfect summary of Desmond Doss. OUTSTANDING!

  • @WraithWTF
    @WraithWTF 6 місяців тому +2

    Helmets were not designed to stop a straight shot to the head, they were designed to protect against flying shrapnel and debris (kinda like a construction worker's hard hat, just way stronger)...they could potentially ricochet a bullet if it hit at the right angle (like what happened with the sniper hitting Desmond), but wouldn't stop a straight shot. Modern-day helmets can take a straight shot from a pistol (though you'll still get a nasty concussion from it), and have a higher chance of ricocheting a rifle bullet due to how they're shaped these days, but they still won't stop a straight shot from a rifle.
    As for Doss' achievements, look up his Medal of Honor citation (it's freely available on the internet)...what he did (especially the parts the movie left out) was insane.

  • @AtlantaGuns
    @AtlantaGuns 6 місяців тому +3

    Every time he says one more my tears flow 😢

  • @SangHoonRyu-dy4bh
    @SangHoonRyu-dy4bh 6 місяців тому +5

    I cried when Smitty died just when they were starting to become friends. 😭💔

    • @mikealvarez2322
      @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому

      Smitty was a fictional character but he represented a real soldier that befriended Doss during his training. The man was wounded and Doss carried him to safety. When the battle was over Doss went to check on him only to find out he had died. After that Doss refrained from checking on men he had treated.

  • @MrBlake14
    @MrBlake14 6 місяців тому +3

    The real number he rescued is estimated to be somewhere in the ballpark of 125-150. Desmond, in his humility, said he only saved about 25. So he and the military settled on the 75 number listed for his MoH.

    • @OroborusFMA
      @OroborusFMA Місяць тому

      I thought Desmond said fifty, the Army said one hundred, and they split the difference.

  • @user-po3ev7is5w
    @user-po3ev7is5w 6 місяців тому +2

    the helmets were not to stop bullets but fragments from all the explosions

  • @FromAcrossTheDesert
    @FromAcrossTheDesert 4 місяці тому

    21:47 The helmets are to protect the head from shrapnel (fragments of a bomb, shell, or other object thrown out by an explosion). In basic training my NCO (Sergeant Cooper) shot a hole in a helmet at 100 meters to demonstrate that the helmet does not stop a bullet.

  • @joefoster2936
    @joefoster2936 6 місяців тому +2

    the us army believed Desmond Doss pulled more than 120 wounded to safety including a few Japanese soliders Desmond believed he only pulled 20 they settled for 75

  • @ulisesmagana4413
    @ulisesmagana4413 6 місяців тому +1

    21:55 the helmet are not meant for direct bullets. It’s meant for shrapnel/rocks and bullets coming from an angle that can deflect it.

  • @19nzinga
    @19nzinga 6 місяців тому +1

    The helmets could withstand glancing blows from bullets/shrapnel; however, they could not withstand a direct hit from a bullet.

  • @Jay_Sullivan
    @Jay_Sullivan 6 місяців тому +1

    I love the irony of girls on OF talking about how people aren't romantic anymore. 'I save myself for no one and then no one treats me as if I'm special; how could this be?!' Hmm, why won't men treat them as ladies? Why won't men treat mountain lions as dogs? This is a tough one to figure out... Maybe, if you save yourself for someone, then someone will treat you as if you're special. Too late... Girl power!

  • @JustMe-gn6yf
    @JustMe-gn6yf 6 місяців тому +1

    Those helmets didn't stop bullets but were mainly for protection against shrapnel

  • @nuts4414
    @nuts4414 2 місяці тому

    What I notice most about this man is he seems to be happy still, and I think it's because he didn't kill anyone, he helped them. So his soul stayed untainted

  • @jonathanbenda7823
    @jonathanbenda7823 6 місяців тому +2

    The helmets at the time were not bullet proof, and instead, protection from debris falling on your head . Great reaction!

  • @Anne.Pinkerton
    @Anne.Pinkerton 6 місяців тому

    They left some of his heroic acts out of the movie because they said nobody would believe that was real! True American hero!!!! For you young people ..... THAT is what a real man should be!!!!

  • @Shawn_Dark_Heart
    @Shawn_Dark_Heart 6 місяців тому +6

    Amazing movie and it’s based off of a true story which makes it even better. Starts off as a love story turned into a war and fighting for his country. Vince Vaughn and Andrew Garfield are remarkable; it just kept me guessing and wanting more. You have to watch this movie; it’s even better than Saving Private Ryan which was my favorite Army movie until I watched this.

  • @DaVic133
    @DaVic133 6 місяців тому +4

    Don't apologize, Michelle, it's you it's your way of thinking it's your way of being, and you are part of the reason why we watch the Homies as a whole. Everyone is contributing in their own unique personal way. Ellie, of course, you can see her heart going out, her raw feelings, emotions showing through. Thank you.

  • @gk5891
    @gk5891 6 місяців тому

    Some rifle rounds will penetrate 2.5 cm of mild steel at 100 meters. A heavy machine gun is an order of magnitude worse. Those helmets were to provide some minimal protection against debris, fragments, shrapnel, richochet or oblique impacts.

  • @Stevarooni
    @Stevarooni 6 місяців тому +1

    Military-issue helmets are rarely good against direct shots, but will save you from a glancing blow or shrapnel/ricochets.

  • @MrTech226
    @MrTech226 6 місяців тому

    After Doss nearly killed his brother, that's when Doss stated he will not harm anyone. But Doss wanted to contribute the war effort without using violence. So, he joined Medic Corps. But his religion forbids use of violence. Brass of the military ruled Doss can work as medic but without using any weapons. Now, International Tribunal at The Hague enacted that medics are forbidden to be harm or kill during the act of aggression such as war. But certain war in Eastern Europe might show violation of this major rule (Rules of Combat) making it as a war crime.

  • @palpat8431
    @palpat8431 6 місяців тому

    9:00 "That's awesome." [that Doss does not believe in violence and refuses to pick up a weapon]
    10:00 "I love that he stands for what he believes."
    11:00 "Why are they doing this?" - "Because they are idiots."
    There's a clear lack of understanding of the underlying themes present in the movie.
    The main goal of the movie is of course to tell the story of Desmond Thomas Doss, it is a story of wartime heroism performed by a soldier whose personal beliefs did not allow him to pick up a weapon and kill the enemy combatants. The focus of the movie is thus not so much on the nature of the conflict between Desmond's beliefs and the conventions of warfare as a point of moralistic or philosophical debate, but instead the story of the man who held those beliefs under those circumstances, the struggles he had to endure, obstacles to overcome to eventually come out a celebrated hero. This is great and the movie absolutely succeeds on that front, however as a result people are left to kind of muddle through the moral debate on their own make comments like the ones I singled out above.
    However if one is to shift focus away from the human story and focus exclusively on the underlying themes, which is the conflict between the beliefs of a conscientious objector and warfare conventions, as well as the nature of maintaining an uncompromising, principled adherence to one's beliefs, then one would see that there are no "idiots" in this story. The people who initially object to Desmond's actions have absolutely every right to do so and it is not without a good reason.
    There can be no war without killing, people go into war knowing this, they adopt a kill or be killed outlook because they can fully expect the enemy to do the same. These extreme conditions forge bonds between soldiers because the very basic expectation is to help protect and save other soldiers from your own side, this fosters solidarity and tight friendships, to the point where men will sacrifice themselves to save others: John 15:13 "greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." If one is ready to die for his friends then it is a foregone conclusion that one is also ready to kill for his friends. That is what the Sargent makes a point of when he reintroduces Desmond to his unit as a conscientious objector: Doss refuses to take up arms, he refuses to carry a weapon, so in a situation where your life may depend on your brothers in arms killing an enemy soldier who is about to kill you, and the only brother in arms anywhere near you at the time is Doss - you will die. Desmond's beliefs make him a liability, he cannot be expected to save you if the only way to do that is to kill the enemy. This practical liability immediately erodes any sense of solidarity with Desmond, it means that one cannot truly look to him for the most common form of assistance in an active combat zone. Moreover he becomes a burden, others have to look out for him because he cannot protect himself, so everyone must do for him what he won't do for them. These things increase the chances of someone dying specifically because of Desmond and his beliefs. Thus the reaction, the desire to pressure him out of the army is absolutely logical and justified, they are not "idiots" even if you find their methods abhorrent, because those things are nothing compared to any one of them dying because of Doss.
    Moreover, one could argue that Desmond is the "idiot" in this situation because he willingly, and stubbornly so, went into a situation where he was well aware his personal beliefs were at odds with what was going to be expected of him. He is the anomaly in the situation, his behaviour is the odd one. Like joining a football team and then insisting that you are willing to play and be a team player but you just can't touch the ball with your feet ever, even though you joined to play the field and not be a goalkeeper.

    • @palpat8431
      @palpat8431 6 місяців тому

      However Desmond makes his case for why he chose to do things the way he did, and it is a compelling, respectable reason. Still that does not resolve the fundamental clash with the reality of the situation he is going into. Now, the whole reason why Desmond Doss is a celebrated hero is because he personally was of such outstanding quality as a human being that he managed to overcome the odds not only in making it to the combat zone but performing his duty exactly as he had himself envisioned it. Certainly the movie leans into that. But we'll never know what might've happened, had he been faced with the hard choice of either killing the enemy or letting the enemy kill one of his brothers in arms, with no possibility to circumvent this scenario. Frankly one must admit that he was lucky if that is truly the case that he managed to avoid this dilemma and test of his personal morals.
      It is a conflict of principles, ones that pertain to war and ones that pertain to nonviolence. You say that you love that he is standing for his principles, but that is likely to be the case only because you approve of his principles. People who opposed him joining the army likewise stood on certain principles and you didn't care for that, but the movie does skew everything in Desmond's favour, it is his story after all. However when you say that you approve of one standing by their principles it is a statement that approves of principle integrity in of itself, regardless of one's beliefs. So ask yourself if you would say the same for people with whose principles you fundamentally disagree with. Would you say that you "love that he stands for what he believes" about some ideological or religious extremist? Would you say that you "love that he stands for what he believes" about a Nazi? If not, then you don't actually love integrity and being principled, you are just infatuated with Desmond's portrayal and his specific beliefs.
      Mind you, this isn't an arbitrary tangent, Desmond having integrity is the crux of his conflict with the army. One can respect both his beliefs and him being uncompromising in his integrity. What good are one's beliefs if he doesn't stand by them despite all adversity? However one can absolutely respect the integrity of a person with whose beliefs they absolutely disagree with or even find abhorrent. It is a more difficult stance to maintain specifically because it demands detachment from judging the actual beliefs. In cases when the beliefs are so abhorrent that people don't want to acknowledge any kind of respect for the person, some choose to just play down the wording to something like "at least you are consistent."
      Think to two other pieces of media, one fictional and one based on true events. Game of Thrones and Operation Valkyrie.
      In Games of Thrones everyone dislikes Jamie Lannister and chastise him on the grounds of him betraying the principles he was expected to uphold, he is derided as the King Slayer, the Oath Breaker, he is viewed as someone with no integrity, and it is only when the audeince learns WHY he killed the Mad King that he becomes sympathetic, as we learn that he was at a crossroads where he found himself in the exact sort of situation that Desmond Doss avoided in real life: where there is no choice of action that would not ruin his integrity. Only difference is that Desmond chose to put himself in circumstances where such an outcome was highly likely but managed to avoid it, whereas Jamie found himself in a situation that was arguably rare.
      In Operation Valkyrie we follow a number of conspirators who aim to murder Hitler, but it is foremost the human story of Claus von Stauffenberg, and so he becomes the symbol of a similar underlying theme which takes a backseat to the human story, this theme is brought up briefly at the start of the movie and closer to the end: he took an oath, an oath of loyalty. The entire plot of the movie is him decidedly and resolutely breaking that oath, full intent and no remorse, it is not even a conundrum to Stauffenberg, despite the fact that he is essentially doing the same thing as Jamie Lannister, however the audience is geared to approve of him breaking with principles and losing his integrity for this purpose.
      Desmond's story is regarded as heroic, he keeps with his principles that the audience approves of and retains his integrity. Moreover everything goes his way as far as his principles are concerned.
      Jamie's story is regarded as tragic, he breaks his principles that the audience approves of but only because they recognise that he ostensibly did it for a good reason and because the circumstances pushed him to it, a reason that the audience approves of.
      Stauffenberg's story is regarded as heroic, even though he breaks his principles in a way that is arguably flippant, those principles stopped mattering because he placed a higher value on something else that justified his actions and the audience approves.
      If you are someone who believes that standing by one's principles is a value in of itself then Desmond is a hero to you, but he is also very easy to root for if you approve of his morals, meanwhile both Jamie and Stauffenberg present cases where you can't truly support them for breaking with their principles, even if you think it was for good reasons.
      There is one culture that found a way out of this conundrum by the way: the Japanese Samurai placed a lot of value into principles, integrity, honour, loyalty, all the themes that are manifested in the stories of Desmond Doss, Jamie Lannister and Claus Stauffenberg (though in Desmond's case he didn't have a Leader he was beholden to by his oath, other than God of course). In this tradition, when a Master issues orders to his Samurai, that they might find objectionable or at cross purposes with some other values they swore to uphold, the resolution was to commit ritual suicide. A Samurai could not reject his Master's orders without dishonouring himself, but if he also felt that carrying out the order was a dishonourable act as well then he would commit Seppuku as a way of both maintaining their honour and signifying a protest to their Master, a desperate plea for them to reconsider their orders if reasoning with them had failed prior. In the Samurai culture it was a strong belief that men who would brave death wouldn't do so for the sake of a lie, only for the sake of a strong conviction. This would give the Master pause and perhaps open their eyes to what they were doing. From a practical point of view losing too many Samurai would place any Master at a great disadvantage both in terms of how they can project power and even recruiting new Samurai, because nobody would swear loyalty to a Master who had many Samurai commit Seppuku, clearly he wasn't worthy of service if that occurs regularly or en masse.
      All of this just to say that these things are way more complicated and nuanced; supporting one's beliefs is not the same as supporting one being principled; calling one side idiots just because you approve of the other's beliefs isn't fair, they can have legitimate grievances.
      tl;dr: "because they are idiots" No u.

  • @mikealvarez2322
    @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому +1

    Desmond made a promise to God and he was not going to compromise on his principles. He knew that if you compromise once on your principles you'll compromise on all.

  • @herrzimm
    @herrzimm 6 місяців тому

    WW2 helmets were more for protection of shrapnel from grenades or falling debris, NOT stop bullets. As the years and technologies in design and materials advanced, helmets became safer, but not completely bulletproof when hit directly. It also depends upon the size of the bullet as well as distance. Meaning smaller (22-38) might not punch through, or one fired from 300-500 meters will not have the power left to penetrate.
    Helmets were "better than nothing" but not "full protection".

  • @jimmysmith5418
    @jimmysmith5418 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m a soldier of New Zealand 🇳🇿 😊 in the 1RNZB 1st Royal New Zealand Battalion (Infantry & logistics) my rank is now a Lance Corporal of the NZDF ( New Zealand Defence Force) we coincided with the US as a counterpart to their operation and mission which was very much the same as ours, supplying military humanitarian aid, Medical Aid and Lethal Aid. Which were essential to the war effort of Ukraine 🇺🇦. Australia 🇦🇺 very much did the same also, supplying their Military Armoured Vehicles (tanks, IFV’s “ infantry fighting vehicles” APC’s “ Anti personnel carriers”) and so on 👌 🫡 🪖 🇺🇦 🇳🇿 🇺🇸
    Thank you 🙏

  • @Dgunner22
    @Dgunner22 6 місяців тому +7

    This was a beautiful reaction by beautiful woman about a beautiful man. Loved it

  • @kl8455
    @kl8455 5 місяців тому

    Believe platoons are punished when a soldier screws up in basic training. The guys in the movie beat up Doss because they are getting punished because of him. Similar to Pyle in Full Metal Jacket. Uses peer pressure to get people to do better. Doss was an amazing dude.

  • @hueydevotedUH1
    @hueydevotedUH1 6 місяців тому +1

    Desmond Doss and those like him.....national TREASURES. Forget the movie stars and the athletes. For me this is what's a role model truly looks like.

  • @cindimonks5661
    @cindimonks5661 6 місяців тому

    I personally believe that it was BECAUSE doss was so silent without a gun, he was able to save more lives.

  • @spartiate567
    @spartiate567 6 місяців тому

    His Medal of Honor citation says 75 men. He was modest and wanted it to say "only' 50. The wanted to put 100 so they split the difference. I don't know the exact number but it's a lot more than 100.

  • @jimmysmith5418
    @jimmysmith5418 6 місяців тому

    There is an old saying that goes something like.
    “War I despise because it means destruction of innocent lives, war means tears tothousands of mother‘s eyes when their sons go to fight and lose their lives.”
    😢😢

  • @mitchrevalee8251
    @mitchrevalee8251 6 місяців тому +1

    Homies, if you wanna learn any more about Desmond Doss, watch The Conscientious Objector, it’s a documentary about him with himself in it talks about his life before the war during training and during the war.

  • @edwardfischer3944
    @edwardfischer3944 6 місяців тому +1

    At 8:00 . . . It is good to know
    that Michellemoonsuger
    has a strong P.P. conscientiousness
    ( in the mud mud ) 😆😁😉🤔

  • @dancole2994
    @dancole2994 6 місяців тому +1

    From the leaders' point of view, they were stomping out a liability to protect their soldiers. They aren't bad people, they just didn't have the experience to understand the bigger picture until later on.

  • @davers59
    @davers59 6 місяців тому +1

    Michelle, I thought you were either really brave or really crazy for sitting beside Ellie during what can only be called a real crier of an action movie; but, since Ellie already saw it once, you didn't need a raincoat. Nice sweater, but I couldn't read what it said. . . and that drives me crazy. Good reaction.

  • @jimmysmith5418
    @jimmysmith5418 6 місяців тому

    3:07 that story reminds me of a time my mother told me about my great grandfather in the 28th Maori Battalion, Charlie Company New Zealand army 🇳🇿 (who was my mother‘s mother‘s father) he had a friend who came back from the war in 1942 He survived the war but at the end of the war in 1945 he was diagnosed with severe serious PTSD, or (post-traumatic stress disorder) he had no help, no specialist treatment no specific advice from a therapist or psychologist. basically no one cared 😢😢.
    He killed himself in 1949 😔😢 😖 🙏🙏
    And it breaks my heart SO DAMN MUCH!! 😢😢 😭

  • @johnwest5837
    @johnwest5837 7 місяців тому +2

    For the unfamiliar KP is kitchen patrol, lot of dirty work.

  • @Tyranidlord556
    @Tyranidlord556 6 місяців тому +3

    The real crazy thing is, that despite how over the top, ridicious Desmonds actions were depicted in the movie, real life were even more ridicious...

  • @itzsnipz
    @itzsnipz 5 місяців тому

    I know you guys probably won't see this but yall were talking about the helmets not working properly helmets are to protect soldiers from shrapnel and other debris from explosives not from bullets

  • @fredpace7514
    @fredpace7514 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing your emotions. It really helps me as well 😢

  • @mikealvarez2322
    @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому

    Please note the opening to this movie where Andrew Garfield quote from Isaiah and what he does on Hacksaw. We should note that as a vegetarian he lacked the protein energy from meat. He had contracted tuberculosis which was diagnosed in 1946. With all that he
    carried draged then lowered down a cliff over 11,000 pounds. What Doss did on Hacksaw far exceeds anything in the movie.

  • @dasta7658
    @dasta7658 6 місяців тому

    Awesome reaction; thanks for posting!

  • @karlschmitt6359
    @karlschmitt6359 6 місяців тому

    God actually says in the 10 Commandments Thou Shalt Not Murder not kill there is a big difference, but this young man is a good and honorable man!

  • @astromanjdh5908
    @astromanjdh5908 6 місяців тому

    It was estimated that Doss saved between 50 and a 100 soldiers, so 75 was written down for the final number.

  • @bigdaddyeb56
    @bigdaddyeb56 6 місяців тому

    Great Reaction Ladies !!! Thank You

  • @evoman1776
    @evoman1776 6 місяців тому +1

    Okinawa was the bloodiest battle of the Pacific war and the Japanese fought to the death. The next stop for the Americans would be the invasion of Japan itself and they wanted to show the Americans how bad it would be - and on a far bigger scale - if they did that....and this movie doesn't even show what the Navy went through off the coast with the kamikaze planes crashing into them. It was an absolutely horrible battle on land and sea.

  • @JohnWelsh-oz3jz
    @JohnWelsh-oz3jz 6 місяців тому

    That number of 75 was a compromise. The army and actual witnesses insisted the actual number of men saved by Desmond Doss was closer to 100-120. However, Doss (ever humble) claimed that the number was at most merely 50.

  • @fredpace7514
    @fredpace7514 6 місяців тому

    The weapon with the fire 🔥 is called a “flame thrower” in English.

  • @rae3486
    @rae3486 6 місяців тому +1

    Great reaction as always! Would love to see your reaction to "My Bestfriend's Wedding", a RomCom starring Julia Roberts. It's one of my personal faves and unfortunatelly i haven't seen any reactors do it yet. Thanks, sending you lots of love!💕

  • @lkc4808
    @lkc4808 6 місяців тому +1

    정말 훌륭하신 분에 좋은 영화를 잘봤습니다~

  • @sashadzhafarov
    @sashadzhafarov 6 місяців тому

    thank you, thank you, thank you for reacting to this movie!

  • @joshuacampbell7493
    @joshuacampbell7493 6 місяців тому +2

    It's weird to see Andrew Garfield is not Spider-Man in this movie 😳. But he did save 75 men so that's Amazing 😉.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 6 місяців тому

      Yes but Garfield was written and directed so much better in Hacksaw Ridge than anything before, especially his Spiderman movies

  • @mikealvarez2322
    @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому

    The Homies need to watch The Pacific and the series on the Airborne fighting in Europe. I'm getting old and so is my memory.

  • @kbronx1911
    @kbronx1911 6 місяців тому +1

    This movie end movie Unbroken is my top 5...
    🎥🍿👌

  • @DynamicInteractiveDuality
    @DynamicInteractiveDuality 6 місяців тому

    As mentioned the battle of Okinawa was extremely bloody because the Japanese build underground connecting tunnels and rooms to avoid American artillery fire. The Japanese knew they would not win the war, but made a decision to kill as may Americans as possible from underground defensive positions for the purpose of being able to negotiate a surrender where they could dictate their own terms by telling the Americans that if you invade Japan you would have be prepared to lose an enormous amount of military personal. This idea is called a "war of attrition." The use of the Atomic bomb by the U.S. and the invasion of Manchuria and the Kuril Islands by the Soviets put an end to those Japanese plans and they surrendered unconditionally.

  • @reyflorez7743
    @reyflorez7743 4 місяці тому

    The best thing I've heard so far xD "Is he ONLY A HEAD?!

  • @blastingweevil2968
    @blastingweevil2968 5 місяців тому

    one of the more amnazing facts was that desmond did not eat meat so he was malnutritioned do the the rations having a lot of meat products which he couldnt eat...

  • @UncleQue
    @UncleQue 6 місяців тому

    The helmets were really supposed to stop bullets…at least not at close range. They were meant more to protect from shrapnel and lesser things like debris that could cause head injuries.

  • @mikealvarez2322
    @mikealvarez2322 6 місяців тому

    Much of the fighting on Hacksaw was hand to hand.

  • @MrTech226
    @MrTech226 6 місяців тому

    Michelle and Ellie
    Mel and crew had to scale back the actions done by Doss for the movie because audience would not believe those actions prior to Hacksaw Ridge.

  • @umdisc64
    @umdisc64 6 місяців тому

    Michelle's hair looks very good.

  • @jimmyc3755
    @jimmyc3755 6 місяців тому

    My lord Mitch looks GREAT! WOW WOW WOW!

  • @HonkHonkler
    @HonkHonkler 6 місяців тому +1

    The helmets did work, but they were MOSTLY if you got hit at an angles. Same for ALL nations that had helmets. They're BEST at angles, that's why it's curved. If you got struck in the curve it would bounce off.

  • @fredpace7514
    @fredpace7514 6 місяців тому

    Michelle your hair looks amazing 🤩

  • @rescuetweak
    @rescuetweak 6 місяців тому

    The Bible does teach that there is “a time to kill”. In fact there are many times in the Bible when God is very please when the unrighteous are killed. It is “murder“ at the Bible forbids. Though the Seventh Day Adventists misinterpret this, that takes nothing away, of course, from Desmond‘s incredible bravery and supernatural legendary courage. He believes in the absolute truth that God is absolutely in charge, always has been, always will be regardless of how many men and women shake their tiny fists in His face. Thank you girls for the reaction and keep in mind that Christmas is all about Jesus and what we do with what he said. Praying God’s best for you both.

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 6 місяців тому

    To me, Hacksaw Ridge is the best WW2 movie ever made. Its about a real person in extraordinary circumstances. Hacksaw is not fictional propaganda like Saving Private Ryan.

  • @theveryworstluck1894
    @theveryworstluck1894 6 місяців тому

    By all accounts he saved well over a hundred men

  • @darrylkoehn-ec8mk
    @darrylkoehn-ec8mk 6 місяців тому

    Not bunkers, tunnels. The Japanese built extensive tunnel networks on many ialands

  • @Witalo.8
    @Witalo.8 5 місяців тому

    Sou Brasileiro e gostei muito do react, Parabéns 👏👏 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @B0mber44
    @B0mber44 6 місяців тому

    I recommend Tears of the Sun

  • @christopherhamlet734
    @christopherhamlet734 6 місяців тому

    Have a Nice Day 💕

  • @Reshtarc
    @Reshtarc 6 місяців тому

    The Helmet got it's redemption seen. Woot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You go helmet.

    • @Reshtarc
      @Reshtarc 6 місяців тому

      The helmet saved that guys life on the beach in saving private ryan .... then the idiot took it off and died. The HELMET has been there doing it's part the entire time and yes many helmets took one for the team but they did their part.

  • @z33andme71
    @z33andme71 6 місяців тому

    OMG... I absolutely love your accent. So adorable!!! Where are you ladies from?

  • @am189
    @am189 6 місяців тому +1

    Misconception on helmets. Helmets are not bulletproof but to protect your head from shrapnel and other debris today's standards are a bit advanced

  • @vincentpuccio3689
    @vincentpuccio3689 6 місяців тому

    Helmets are not bullet proof. They protect your head from concussion.

  • @davidtoupal1015
    @davidtoupal1015 5 днів тому

    Try ‘we were soldiers’. Another true story and emotional

  • @christopherhamlet734
    @christopherhamlet734 6 місяців тому

    God Bless You✝️❣️🎄

  • @tizianadifronzo7314
    @tizianadifronzo7314 6 місяців тому

    ❤ Wonderful movie

  • @EliRathbone-rg5zk
    @EliRathbone-rg5zk 3 місяці тому

    Okay why is no one talking about how their channels name is the homies

  • @Cutie_ily
    @Cutie_ily 6 місяців тому

    helmets aren't ment to stop bullets they're for flying debris. that'll be sick tho

  • @spartiate567
    @spartiate567 6 місяців тому

    I'm not a pacifist myself, and I do not think Christianity is a pacifist religion. However, I believe some Christians receive special calls, and perhaps Doss was specially called by God to be a pacifist. Certainly his faith is remarkable. Some think he was inspired by God directly but also at times directly protected by God. A Japanese soldier who fought the Americans on Hacksaw was taken prisoner. [There were a few. Not many.] He testified that he saw Doss at one point during his solo rescue activities, and had a dead clear shot at him. Except his gun malfunctioned. He cleared it and it malfunctioned again. And again. Many times, until Doss was out of sight. Then suddenly his gun was working again, and he never found anything wrong with it.

  • @honzaburgyne9295
    @honzaburgyne9295 6 місяців тому

    Christmas Vacation 1989 🎄🐈🐿️

  • @teddyrex1963
    @teddyrex1963 6 місяців тому

    helmets isn't meant to stop a bullet they are meant to stop shrapnel from artillery and grenades.