CODY CODY CODY READ THIS !!!!! You can turn off the noise on the makita charger. place the battery on the charger imediatly take it off the slider on the charger will change the sound if you depress it down each time you slide it down it changes the noise/song there are about five different noises/songs but the last is no sound at all! let me know if it works for you!
@@Dailymailnewz about 300 watts or something like that a think for 15 amps think makita has a 30 amp fuse so a think makita is way more powerful about 500 /550 watts
Exactly! The B & D does the job... I have pretty identical one, except it has a keyless chuck. At the price, excellent... second battery on charge while the first is in use covers most disadvantages.
Same here, I got the drill on Black Friday at Walmart, for home DIY it's been perfect. I bought the driver later since I wanted to share batteries before they changed the design. I'm not a house framing pro so they have been more than fine.
I can predict what will happen to: * drill bits - going to become blunt a lot faster; * bits - either warp or break; * dremel - depends on how cheap, probably similar to what you just saw (if it's really poorly made you might see the chuck or motor failing); * cheap saw blades in my experience come blunt out of the package (may depend on what saw you mean); * imo safety glasses would be hard to test, but i guess the cheaper kind would scratch/fog way more easily.
Cheapest safety glasses wouldn't be that hard. I'd recommend the "safety" as priority for testing. A good example might be shooting at them with a nail gun. The good ballistic glasses from co's like Oakley are very good at taking shrapnel and such. I'd be interested in the cheaper options' capabilities.
For safety glasses, get a multi-pack or something, and step up the tests until you get constant failures, then apply to the good ones. I'd do a scratch test first, get a mohs hardness test kit, record what hardness it takes to scratch. Next would be impact test, start with a 2x4 and wack the glasses once on each lens. Then step it up to small hammer (ball peen perhaps?), then a larger hammer, then the mini sledge, if they're still intact, full sledge. Then on fresh glasses, drive fasteners into the lenses, nail gun, 16 penny nail, construction screw driven in with hammer. Then maybe a solvent and corrosive test, does it stand up to brake cleaner, paint thinner, mineral spirits, etc.
I have both tools. I started with the B&D(paid $35 open box) when it first came out. I've driven many of screws with that B&D until I was able to afford the Makita. The B&D still runs as strong as it did the first day, but it will never be on the same level as a Makita. I fell in love with Makita with its size, balance in weight, and the amount of power & torque delivered. I've owned and used a lot of different brands and havent found one that works as well for me as the makita. Thats with all the makita tools across their line up i have found to be top notch. So of course putting a B&D up against a makita is unfair as one is for home use and the other is for pro use, and they are obviously manufactured & priced accordingly.
I think I could see his point. I think he meant it doesn't really show anything of value - we knew the Makita was more powerful from the previous test, so what the point of putting them against each other?
I’ve had that exact black and decker impact for years. Love that thing. Dropped it in water buckets and dried it out, thrown it. It got sprayed with brake clean then set on fire. Left outside Still works perfect to this day. Love that thing. Also that metal on the front is just plastic.
20v and 18v are no different. All 18v batteries are 20v out of load and 18 in load they’re both literally the exact same. The reason all Stanley black and decker tools say 20v is because another tool manufacturer owns the rights to 18v so anyone who puts 18v on their tools has to pay royalties to them. So the tools that say 18v are just telling you what the voltage is in load and the 20v tools are just what they are out of load, but they’re both 20v out of load and 18 in load. Also you’re seeing sparks in the black and decker because it is a brushed motor and that’s the brushes rubbing up against metal. The Makita is brushless so there is no metal to metal rubbing so no sparks. All brushed motors will create those sparks. Hope this helps.
In the uk there’s no such thing as 20v dewalt range it’s all 18v but it’s exactly the same as the 20v just different branding think the 20v is only in North America
The wood test was innacurate due too the first bolt putting strain on the wood, when the second screw is driven in the wood splits and reduced to torque needed to fully drive home the bolt. good test and lot to be said for the cheaper option.
@@santroff5050 I noticed the same thing. Any one with woodworking experience knows to stagger the placement of fasteners to prevent splitting. Plus driving that size lag is asking for splitting.
I'm in the company of pros. Right off the bat I knew that second screw was going to split the wood when he drove it into the same line of grain as the first. And also that the first bolt was "prying the door open" for that second bolt to gain full entry. Would like to see an accurate test performed by someone that isn't bias to the Makita. Still it was an "E" for effort😊
The 2 extra volts is pure marketing. Here in Europe they're just sold as 18V because that's what they are. They have 5 cells of 3.6V nominal, but when fully charged the peak voltage is about 4V, and that's what's quoted in your area.
You can change the sound setting on the Mikita charger. Plug in the battery twice, really quick, and there are actually like 10 different sound settings. One of them is just silent. Took me a while to figure that one out!
I have a whole set of these Black & Decker tools (drill, impact driver, saw, etc.) and use them heavily in a city living situation. I would say they're solid for 1.5 - 2 years and then you'll start seeing a lot of failures and issues (if you use them heavily). For a regular home owner, you'll see more life out of them.
Thanks. This is the information that I wanted (after watching three vids). I get Black & Decker tools for free and just wanted to know if they are worth the bother or would they breakdown after a few months of lighter home use.
Felix Böge Yea funny he complains about the fan but doesn't acknowledge the fact that the makita charger will charge a 3ah battery in about 15 minutes while the b&d takes an hour to charge a 1.5ah. Makita has the fastest chargers on the market, the fan is definitely required lol
Makita has the best thermal protection of all brands. I've worked as a solar installer in socal for 7 yrs. and toasted most of the others. Batteries get sapped from hot rooftops and Sun exposure. Makita batteries also recover faster and survive 15+ft drops.
I’ve had that same impact for 2-3 years now and it hasn’t failed me yet. I’ve built a chicken coop, tree house for the kids, and done countless stuff with it inside the house as well. It’s held up just fine.
I used that B&D to remodel my house. I was ignorant on impacts when I purchased it. It did a wonderful job. I had to have 2 batteries charging at a time. 1.5 years later when i was finished the remodel it still worked. It gave up the white ghost many times and it still works and is still my go to tool even with my dewalt dril and driver I got for my birthday sitting unused.
He drilled the screw too close to the edge of the piece of wood, so the mentioned piece of wood split before the screw got deep. Then he drove the screw farther from the edges to see the B&D with an actual challenge, and it buckled. The Makita drove it through, like it was supposed to and the wood splitting at the very end tensioning had nothing to do with it's victory.
Yet, during the second drilling of the B&D, he already damaged the wood in such a way that the makita had an easier time drilling the screw head deep into the wood.
I actually go the opposite direction. I believe that swearing or cursing is just another tool in my vocabulary toolbox. Yes, I have a plethora of non-curse words in my repertoire. However, there is a time and a place for such words.
The wood split while the Marita was driving in the lag, making it a bit easier on it to complete the drive. It was not quite a fair test. But i can say from experience, out of 9 B&D drills and impacts i have purchased, 6 of the motors went bad in under 1 year.
ant3695 no, but now that you mention that... im not asking cody to change what he did, i just wanted to point it out for people really wanting this info. I would also recommend B&D tools, but know they are cheaper, and a bit lower quality. I have had many, because I like the variety of tools that can be used with the same batteries, i have at least 20 batteries now.... lol
Cody, Ryobi is owned by the same company (Techtronic Industries) as Milwuakee, AvE also said that Rigid is made in there Techtronic's factories but I can't find anything on it.
Rigid might be made there? but it's owned by Emerson industries, not tti from what I can find on Wikipedia. TTI ownes Milwaukee and Ryobi. Based in Hong Kong. DeWalt, Porter cable, Black & Decker are owned by Stanley and US based.
R.D. K I know that Ridgid is owned by Emerson. Someone who is reputable (AvE) said that TTI's factory makes tools for Rigid. I just can't find anything else on it and thought that someone might have better luck finding out than me.
I have to say, I'm a hitachi guy. All my hitachi tools have proved themselves time and time again. Love the test but I'm gonna stay with my favorite. This tends to be a ford, dodge or chevy argument :). Wise men and women on all sides of the conversation.
I love my hitachi gear too it's not China made from tech industry's like Mikita royobi ect ... japan is where quality is at and that's where hitachi is made
I have been using a used Black + Decker impact of the same model for over 2 years now 5 days a week removing about 20 screws a day, changing the battery about once a month. I have dropped it from 4 to 5 feet high to the ground 10 to 15 times and it is still going strong. I use 2.0 AH batteries on mine. I think it is money well spent. And yes Black + Decker and DeWalt are made by Stanley Black and Decker
I'd like you to compare a cheapo with an expensive one. Then with the amount of money for the expensive one, how many cheapos (for the same money) it can destroy.
8:47 The sparks inside is from new brushes. My Makita drill also had that in the beginning, it's normal and it means that the brushes don't have seamless contact with the commutator. The irregularities in the contact grind away after some usage.
I've been running the Porter Cable 20vL outfit (first gen) (3 drills, c-saw, rec saw, a-grinder) for about 8 years and i couldn't be happier. Gives me everything i ask from them I'm a homeowner....not a contractor, however, I've put the sawzall/ rec-saw through literal hell and it still chuggin along like a champ
if the wood breaks, it is easy to screw, in the first attempt black and decker screwed because the wood broke, the second try not ... when makita screwed, the wood broke, is not a fair comparison.
The noise from the makita chargers is the fan which is essential to cool the battery while it is being charged. The batteries charge at such a high temperature that cooling them down will make the life of them much longer
I have a B&D orbital sander and the thing terrifies me lol. I'll flip it on sometimes and it's RPMs are way out of wack. Then I have a cordless string trimmer that seems to work okay with light duty use.. so.. not sure how I feel about them. I'll always have a soft spot for anything Makita.
Brendan Stanford I don't know if it's cause black and decker now owns dewalt. If they've made that their profesional line or what. But b&d electric tools aren't any good. They're hand tools are still pretty great. (It's Stanley black and decker).
My Makita can drive a 10 inch screw into a wooden block and take the (impact wrench-tightened) lug nuts off of my tires, so I wouldn't worry too much about the "fairness" of this test.
Love the kitty in the background wondering what’s going on he’s come thru a few times and the noise doesn’t bother him one bit! Love my Makita drills never been disappointed
dfgdfg I guess this is a more practical layman's review. But if you're interested in that you might want to look at the 'Popular Mechanics' magazine. I got mine when I was 11 and I've loved it for all three years I've had it!
T.T.G Krydder or watch AvE on UA-cam, this video is like a children's version of his content. He breaks down tools to really reviews them down to the bits.
why the hell are people taking this so seriously? while he is "testing" them, he is primarily just messing around. only a moron would think that he believes this is a proper and extensive testing on the tools..
I use the Makita impacts daily to put couplings on pipe every day at work. It’s a well made tool and tough. It takes falls from scissor and boom lifts, ladders and scaffold and gets back to work in almost every case. I don’t mind the singing charging stations, personally. Battery life is pretty good as well. It’s pricey, but you get your money’s worth out of it in my opinion
Johnny Utah old comment but I love my Milwaukee grinder so much I couldn’t resist. Going on 2 years of being welded into my vise and various other tortures and it’s still my best grinder
@Wranglerstar The burning electronics smell is likely due to the brushed motor arcing and burning out, the Makita wouldn't have that smell since it is brushless, same reason as to why the B&D had lights on the inside. From the brushes arcing.
I stand corrected, I never knew that Makita made a brushed drill, all the tools I have seen and own are brushless, and I didn't even realize that they made a brushed version until I went to their website and scrolled all the way down. The more you know...
Volts aren't directly connected with power. It's actually volt and ampere multiplied (Watts) that determine how much energy the tool actually draws and then there is efficiency and the gear ratio. So often more volts mean more power but there is a lot more to it.
The 20 volt rating is actually quite a lie when you consider that both 18v and 20v tools are at 20v when under NO load. The voltage drops instantly when put under load so the 18v rating is the actual true voltage you can expect from both 20v and 18v rated tools.
it all came down to the bigger battery of the Makita (3AH) VS the smaller B&D one (1.5AH). the amperage of a battery not only mean the time it last but also the more continues power it provides, while the voltage only gives the max speed of it.
I scrolled down to find this comment. Given a common discharge rate of 10c means that the Makita battery will provide 600 watts, while the B&D battery is only capable of providing 270 watts. Try to find a like sized battery and try the test again.
guys i wanna beg to differ. im in the UK, run a music/video studio and a small woodshop. i own the impact and hammer drill set from b and d...and they've never stalled never failed and i get a full mornings use out of the batteries..better still the batteries take less time to charge than to run down so i never get left with no juice. its all about horses for courses. i use these on my family's clinker build antique boats and converted steel horsebox food truck too.... i love them. each to their own ay! keep up the vids man. peace
Does anybody else notice that he drilled the B&D directly into the knot of the wood.. which is by far much harder than the rest of the block. Not at all a fair test.
Your Makita is brush-less the black and Decker is brushed. that's why its weaker the battery is 20V but brushed motors aren't as efficient as brush-less.
Lol. True and a funny observation. Not sure I'd have Cody build my deck without giving him specific instruction after seeing him split that block by running two bolts along the same grainline, but I would trust that he respects weapons enough not to accidentally fire one off😋
I bought a small’ish Black & Decker lithium-ion drill once and the motor burnt out (let the smoke out) the first time I used it, I was drilling a screw into wood and it stalling and the motor fried. I returned it and bought a little DeWalt 12v combo kit with a nice little drill and small impact driver….. I still have it today, the batteries are still strong even being in my super hot/super cold garage. I use that impact driver for everything! Working on my car it will twist lug nuts off and I’ve mounted MANY flat screen TV’s with it putting lag bolts (with pilot holes) into studs. The last TV I mounted (huge 75’ screen) broke a brand new lag bolt in half when the bolt hit something hard as I was driving it in. Great little impact driver, VERY strong.
Lithium Ion Cells have about 3,7 Volts each. So if you put a couple together, you get about 18,5 Volts with 5 Cells in parallel. But, if fully charged, a Cell holds up to 4,2 Volts. And if you look closely, the cheap ones battery says "Max 20V". So they are clearly cheating here, they also use the 5 Cells but call it 20 Volts, due to them being 4,2 Volts each when fully charged (which would actually make 21 Volts). The Makita one with its 3 Ah propably has 10 Cells, 2 packs of 5 Cells (5 cells in parallel for the 18 Volts and 2 of these packs for doubling the Ampere hours to 3 Ah, instead of 1,5 Ah)
Well with lithium batteries wether its fully charger or half its still going to send the exact same output until its entirely dead. Thats the best part about lithium unlike the nickle or nicad batteries they run slower and slower until its dead but lithium is 100% until the end haha
Hey great videos but after watching a couple comparisons you have made mention of 18V vs. 20V. They are the same thing... just depends and where on the discharge curve you take the number. As far as I've seen as I've seen so far they all use 18650 Li-ion cells which have a rated voltage of 3.7V but can be as high as 4.2V fresh off the charger. Basically both use 5 cells in series in their packs and the larger packs parallel an additional 5 cells for the greater capacity and obvious size. So the difference 18V vs. 20V is just marketing.
in 2016 I bought the last two tool Porter - Cable 12 volt cordless drill and impact driver set at Lowe's here in Canada. They were no longer going to sell 12 volt Porter - Cable tools. I wanted just the drill because it had been highly rated in tests on a contractor's tool test website. I got both for a fantastic $ 100. I have never seen as good a deal. I had no idea what an impact driver was for, and so I sold it after much difficulty for $ 35. I wish I had kept it ! The drill is FANTASTIC ! Nice and compact with loads of torque and great speed. Great batter life, too. I read that for general household use 12 volts is enough. You don't need 18 or 20 volts. A contractor will, though. Now I am hearing that Stanley - Black & Decker who own DeWalt. Porter - Cable, and Black & Decker are going to discontinue the Porter - Cable line. They plan on merging it into their Craftsman power tool line which they bought when Sears went belly up. DeWalt is their premium "contractor" brand, Porter - Cable is their mid range line, and Black and Decker is their budget line. Thirty years ago Black and Decker corded drills, and Skills corded drills were good rugged tools. Today, not any longer. Skil I am not sure about but Black and Decker tools are JUNK !
Yeah I kinda raised an eyebrow at that comment I have Hitachi tools at work but have Makita for my personal tools. I have no issues with the Hitachi tools they work well haha way better than anything Black and Decker I know that!
In Germany Hitachi is a premium brand. Comparable to Makita, DeWalt and Milwaukee. But i think those are sold as Metabo(the Light Green ones) in the us.
He should have tried to drive that bolt that the B&D couldn't with the makita. That would've shown if it had more power. Or drive in 10 bolts each and the decide.
The Makita charger blows air through the battery as it's charging to keep the cells cool allowing it to charge at a higher amperage. The only brand to do this I think. It increases battery life and reliability. I have 2 batteries and use my tools hard. There's always a charged battery when I run one down.
The Makita charger has programmable sound. Just put the battery in/out quickly to set the musical or sound of your choosing. Perhaps, read the manual too.
@@flippingdrummer Agreed. Keyword though; for the price. Ryobi makes good stuff for the price, however, build quality is obviously lower to compensate for the price. Like internally might be more similar, but the outer body is much cheaper. I haven't worked with much from Ryobi because I abuse my tools and I know Ryobi couldn't take what I would be putting it to the test for, but for lighter work, Ryobi has got my approval. For real abuse though, I've found Ryobi to not being able to take it. So on a job site, I could easily go through Ryobi easily, if you're looking for basic housework, don't see why not. DISCLAIMER: I do know Ryobi has made some significant changes and bringing on more products, just haven't worked with them enough. Their older stuff, maybe like a year or two old, that's where the above applies.
I have had a Black & Decker drill for over 15 years and it still works. Decided to purchase a newer model last year and currently getting ready to buy a B & D impact driver..
@@martynm.449 LOL thats not how it works... Can you imagine a drill like this only running on 30 watts? Both drills are running at the same voltage its just that Makita chooses not to use marketing nonsense to sell tools. 20v unloaded 18v under load, same as every other 18 or 20v tool.
@@dalegribble2339well this is my experience: I had a water fed diamond saw at work. The standard battery was a 12 volt 3ah (36 Watts) battery. It worked fine. The blade would cut the glass quite happily and you'd have a nice edge. To get a bit more longevity between charges, I wired in a 12 volt 7ah battery (84watts). All of a sudden It was absolutely ferocious! It would jump around and buck like a horse. It chewed through the glass and absolutely butchered it! I then went on to build an electric bike. I found that more capacity will actually give more performance, and vice versa, more volts will also give more range. Even though this is not how volts and amp hours are normally thought of. I will try to find an online source which will back this up and post a link....
@@dalegribble2339 howtoebike.com/best-ebike-battery-a-beginners-guide/ That explains quite well my experience. However, if you still don't believe me, get some crocodile clips, some wires and connect a larger capacity battery up to one of your tools. Keep the voltage the same and see how much more torque you now have. I suppose that's how a seemingly small 12v car battery can crank a starter motor (and even push the car forward if in gear) it has so much torque. Although, if I'm being fair, I did use a lead acid battery in my saw not nickel metal hydride, and lead acid may have more oomph possibly??? I'm just trying to be fair and honest. I totally see what you mean about the 20v and 18v rating. It might be that I'm not comparing apples with apples. All I can speak of is my own experience. And that might be skewing my belief. Who knows? Kind regards, Martyn
have to say, first time i have ever seen or her of your videos. just kind of stumbled across them, but you actually do some valid, educational, informational, stuff.. Keep up the good work. I love them!!
I have a Black and Decker Impact Driver and it's absolutely fantastic for dismantling e-waste( I do that for a full time job for E-Cycle Limited NZ). Great for screws a regular drill driver can't remove and for undoing bolts holding the Cathode Ray Tubes to the front frame of a CRT tv with a quarter inch socket adapter.
Im a carpenter and I use a ryobi cordless circular saw sometimes. It always works great. The key is getting the Lithium Plus batteries because it drains the normal ones quickly. But cordless circular saws work wonderfully as long as you use them properly. I also have a Makita worm drive and it is obviously no comparison. Because actually craftsmen dont expect tools to do more than their purpose.
Idk about the validity of this particular test. The Makita had a higher output batter (3mah vs 1.5) The Makita drills screw was placed right next to the B&D causing the board to crack The 2 drill tug of war im not certain but it looked like they were both spinning with each other and not against each other
A note about the capacity: An amp-hour is a measure of output over time, not in the moment. A 3 amp-hour battery can put out 1 amp for 3 hours, or 1.5 amps for 2 hours, and so on, before it needs to be recharged. The voltage rating is more telling of the power the battery puts out, and the voltage of the B&D is actually higher. The makita won because it was a brushless motor, which is more powerful for its size.
@@jacobg5122 The thing about the 20v batteries in tools is it's based off unloaded fully charged cell voltage. The 20v and 18v have the same 5 cells in series. Fully charged lithium cells are 3.6v, but fully charged it's 4.2v. Once it's down to 90% it stays close to 3.6v on a shallow voltage curve until the very last 20%, then the voltage curve steepens till 3.0v cutoff.
@@Jaker788 Hmm, that sounds like false advertising on B&D's part. Never knew that about nominal voltage, although I do work with vehicle batteries a lot and I know that a lead acid cell is 2.1 volts, which results in a 12.6v battery.
@@jacobg5122 it's debatable. Yeah for industrial lead acid batteries we use nominal voltage, a 36v 18 cell battery is actually 38.34 fully charged, but we still call it a 36v battery. It's just standard to use nominal voltage instead of something more like your max voltage.
@@Jaker788 Not to mention that the charging circuit is usually 10-20% higher than the actual voltage, so an 18v charger might put out between 19.8-21.6 volts. When they say 18 volts, it's probably just to simplify the numbers.
I have one of the black and decker drills that allows me to change the heads around from impact to reciprocal saw, to a routing tool, to a circular saw, and so on. Its a crazy little drill tool and all the attachments run around 39.99 a piece. The crazy part of it is, I have owned the drill for about 10 years, and the little guy is still running like the day I purchased it! Now I have numerous other professional tools, but this is a nice little set when I am in a pinch, and I will say without a doubt that black and decker has proved themselves to me with this little multi-use tool!
The noise from the makita chargers makes a lot of sense on a jobsite. if you have several workers there making all sorts of racket and need to charge several batteries, its nice to know when ones done charging and you can put on the next one.
Clearly needs an app with phone notification. (Kidding. Most tradesmen have a pretty good sense when the battery will be done charging since they do it every day.)
About 20 years ago I ran a Makita 18v cordless drill running 3½" screws all morning on a construction site. I had 4 batteries and as soon as I ran one dead I charged it and ran another one. The drill handle was too hot to hold comfortably and I actually overheated a battery or two. Never missed a beat and didn't fail me.
If you use any tool only the way it was intended and look after it, it will usually last as long as possible. You should always pre-drill for large screws and you would never put two tools face to face like that. A better test would have been to do a durability and longevity test making a larger task with repeat actions and then evaluating the handling, power drop-off curve and amount of work done on a single charge. That would be useful for those of us on a budget to understand the difference between a budget consumer tool and a professional grade tool. Most DIY users could no doubt manage just fine with a Black & Decker, while a proffesional would value the durability and longer work time of the Makita.
I have the Black & Decker drill from that line and that little s**t lasts all day drilling into metal roofing and it gets it done. I don't doubt it just up and dies one day but it's better than nothing.
Black & Decker does have a premium line, it's called DeWalt
Well said.... But dewalt and Craftsman are nothing alike other than the category of tool! I hope i never ask that guy for help!
James Cornwell yeah for real!!! Lol what the heck is he taking about ???
Don’t forget porter cable
Facts
kellsarah he said that
CODY CODY CODY READ THIS !!!!! You can turn off the noise on the makita charger. place the battery on the charger imediatly take it off the slider on the charger will change the sound if you depress it down each time you slide it down it changes the noise/song there are about five different noises/songs but the last is no sound at all! let me know if it works for you!
At last, someone who reads instructions lol
I'm confused. Why on earth would you be able to change the sound of your charger? That sounds weird.
From my experience, I think those "Christmas lights" mean it's not a brushless motor.
The Milwaukee power tools I use at work do that to.
Yeah thats exactly what it is. Any drill that's not brushless will throw those little "Christmas lights" when it stops from full speed
How much power does these tools spends? 200 watts, 300 watts?
@@Dailymailnewz about 300 watts or something like that a think for 15 amps think makita has a 30 amp fuse so a think makita is way more powerful about 500 /550 watts
a real experts review from a guy that don't know the differents between "brushed and brushless"
I have the B&D for 3 years and has yet to fail me. For $69 spent it does and has done everything I've asked of it.
Will it drive a 1/2” by 5” lag screw?
@@luckylanyard not sure as I haven't had call to do so.
I love mine had it for a year and still working fine
Exactly! The B & D does the job... I have pretty identical one, except it has a keyless chuck. At the price, excellent... second battery on charge while the first is in use covers most disadvantages.
Same here, I got the drill on Black Friday at Walmart, for home DIY it's been perfect. I bought the driver later since I wanted to share batteries before they changed the design. I'm not a house framing pro so they have been more than fine.
What did we learn: that impact drivers are hot after use
Owen Kennedy maby
after abuse*
black decker,is good ? should buy?
That if you pay 4 times as much for a tool I will be better
I came to write exactly that!!!
Cheapest ideas:
Cheapest scissors
Cheapest drill bits
Cheapest screwdriver(s)/bit set
Cheapest tool set (extra points for the pink one)
Cheapest Dremel/Dremel knockoff
Cheapest screw extractor
Cheapest saw blade
Cheapest safety glasses
Thanks for supporting China's economy. I hate cheap stuff. I wish we had at least one US made option in power tools but we don't.
I can predict what will happen to:
* drill bits - going to become blunt a lot faster;
* bits - either warp or break;
* dremel - depends on how cheap, probably similar to what you just saw (if it's really poorly made you might see the chuck or motor failing);
* cheap saw blades in my experience come blunt out of the package (may depend on what saw you mean);
* imo safety glasses would be hard to test, but i guess the cheaper kind would scratch/fog way more easily.
Cheapest safety glasses wouldn't be that hard. I'd recommend the "safety" as priority for testing. A good example might be shooting at them with a nail gun. The good ballistic glasses from co's like Oakley are very good at taking shrapnel and such. I'd be interested in the cheaper options' capabilities.
TheVexCortex gei
For safety glasses, get a multi-pack or something, and step up the tests until you get constant failures, then apply to the good ones. I'd do a scratch test first, get a mohs hardness test kit, record what hardness it takes to scratch. Next would be impact test, start with a 2x4 and wack the glasses once on each lens. Then step it up to small hammer (ball peen perhaps?), then a larger hammer, then the mini sledge, if they're still intact, full sledge. Then on fresh glasses, drive fasteners into the lenses, nail gun, 16 penny nail, construction screw driven in with hammer. Then maybe a solvent and corrosive test, does it stand up to brake cleaner, paint thinner, mineral spirits, etc.
9:55 is what you came for
Mkot
10:50 actually
don't forget 11:45 ooh it is hot too!!
Thanks
I have both tools. I started with the B&D(paid $35 open box) when it first came out. I've driven many of screws with that B&D until I was able to afford the Makita. The B&D still runs as strong as it did the first day, but it will never be on the same level as a Makita. I fell in love with Makita with its size, balance in weight, and the amount of power & torque delivered. I've owned and used a lot of different brands and havent found one that works as well for me as the makita. Thats with all the makita tools across their line up i have found to be top notch. So of course putting a B&D up against a makita is unfair as one is for home use and the other is for pro use, and they are obviously manufactured & priced accordingly.
*Torque??* You mean *CHOOCH!*
"What did we learn from this?" Friction tools get hot? Lol
This dude is hilariously dumb lol
We learn power tools get warm under normal use ha
It is not the friction, it is the impact that causes the heat. The softer the steel hammer, the more heat it will produce.
Hot♨️♨️♨️♨️♨️
I think I could see his point. I think he meant it doesn't really show anything of value - we knew the Makita was more powerful from the previous test, so what the point of putting them against each other?
I’ve had that exact black and decker impact for years. Love that thing. Dropped it in water buckets and dried it out, thrown it. It got sprayed with brake clean then set on fire. Left outside Still works perfect to this day. Love that thing. Also that metal on the front is just plastic.
Wish my black and decker tools would have been that good bought some black and decker drills brand new and they failed me after a month of heavy work
20v and 18v are no different. All 18v batteries are 20v out of load and 18 in load they’re both literally the exact same. The reason all Stanley black and decker tools say 20v is because another tool manufacturer owns the rights to 18v so anyone who puts 18v on their tools has to pay royalties to them. So the tools that say 18v are just telling you what the voltage is in load and the 20v tools are just what they are out of load, but they’re both 20v out of load and 18 in load. Also you’re seeing sparks in the black and decker because it is a brushed motor and that’s the brushes rubbing up against metal. The Makita is brushless so there is no metal to metal rubbing so no sparks. All brushed motors will create those sparks. Hope this helps.
Not hilti
THIS IS ONLY YOUR IMAGINATION AND IT IS BULLSHIT.
THE ONLY REASON IS 20V LOOKS BETTER THAN 18V FOR THE MOB
Taylormade2350 it’s crazy that someone can copyright a measurement
In the uk there’s no such thing as 20v dewalt range it’s all 18v but it’s exactly the same as the 20v just different branding think the 20v is only in North America
@@indescribableemptiness4104 *trademark
at 11:00 my mom burnt toast and i thought it was the drills lol
you had a stoke
The wood test was innacurate due too the first bolt putting strain on the wood, when the second screw is driven in the wood splits and reduced to torque needed to fully drive home the bolt. good test and lot to be said for the cheaper option.
@@santroff5050 I noticed the same thing. Any one with woodworking experience knows to stagger the placement of fasteners to prevent splitting. Plus driving that size lag is asking for splitting.
I'm in the company of pros. Right off the bat I knew that second screw was going to split the wood when he drove it into the same line of grain as the first. And also that the first bolt was "prying the door open" for that second bolt to gain full entry. Would like to see an accurate test performed by someone that isn't bias to the Makita. Still it was an "E" for effort😊
The 2 extra volts is pure marketing. Here in Europe they're just sold as 18V because that's what they are. They have 5 cells of 3.6V nominal, but when fully charged the peak voltage is about 4V, and that's what's quoted in your area.
Oh god no...
ManWithBeard1990 Black & Decker makes DeWalt and Porter Cable
I have a B&D and use it all the time it's been very abused had it for at least 5yrs and it's held up great so I'll keep my $58 tool
But do u use it as a tradesman or just home owner projects?
@@zachriedl3945 it's pretty well used as a home owner no I don't make a living with my drill
Panasonic conversation closed
@@dewaynel6579 lol no
I love mine.
You can change the sound setting on the Mikita charger. Plug in the battery twice, really quick, and there are actually like 10 different sound settings. One of them is just silent. Took me a while to figure that one out!
I have a whole set of these Black & Decker tools (drill, impact driver, saw, etc.) and use them heavily in a city living situation.
I would say they're solid for 1.5 - 2 years and then you'll start seeing a lot of failures and issues (if you use them heavily).
For a regular home owner, you'll see more life out of them.
Thanks. This is the information that I wanted (after watching three vids). I get Black & Decker tools for free and just wanted to know if they are worth the bother or would they breakdown after a few months of lighter home use.
Dude, the makita charger has a fan in it to cool the battery while charging so it dosnt lose capacity, thats why its so noisy...
Felix Böge it also has 5 different ringtones to let you know when charging is complete. Or you can shut all noise tones off.
How do you change the noise ? Mine seems to change randomly once after a few weeks then next a few months and I have no clue how??
Odb Guy Put the battery in and take it back out. Each time you do it it'll change the noise
Felix Böge Yea funny he complains about the fan but doesn't acknowledge the fact that the makita charger will charge a 3ah battery in about 15 minutes while the b&d takes an hour to charge a 1.5ah. Makita has the fastest chargers on the market, the fan is definitely required lol
Makita has the best thermal protection of all brands.
I've worked as a solar installer in socal for 7 yrs. and toasted most of the others. Batteries get sapped from hot rooftops and Sun exposure. Makita batteries also recover faster and survive 15+ft drops.
I’ve had that same impact for 2-3 years now and it hasn’t failed me yet. I’ve built a chicken coop, tree house for the kids, and done countless stuff with it inside the house as well. It’s held up just fine.
I used that B&D to remodel my house. I was ignorant on impacts when I purchased it. It did a wonderful job. I had to have 2 batteries charging at a time. 1.5 years later when i was finished the remodel it still worked. It gave up the white ghost many times and it still works and is still my go to tool even with my dewalt dril and driver I got for my birthday sitting unused.
Don't get your hopes up. DeWalt and black and Decker are essentially the same.
I left that very impact driver in the rain. The chuck and bit got rusty, but it still runs to this day. :D
splits wood with black and decker: "oh, tests invalid, lets do it again" (okay)
splits wood with makita: "makita wins! no need to try again"
Feronanthus he's extremely biased in his "Reviews" and doesn't perform them entirely correct
Bubbles He literally said the tool was good for the money so how the hell is he being bias
He drilled the screw too close to the edge of the piece of wood, so the mentioned piece of wood split before the screw got deep. Then he drove the screw farther from the edges to see the B&D with an actual challenge, and it buckled. The Makita drove it through, like it was supposed to and the wood splitting at the very end tensioning had nothing to do with it's victory.
Yet, during the second drilling of the B&D, he already damaged the wood in such a way that the makita had an easier time drilling the screw head deep into the wood.
I wanted to see the Makita finish the B&D lag so bad.
Lmfao 11:49 we learned not to touch impact drivers after a tug of war
Da
This this one of the funniest things ever 🤣🤣
The block was already split when he screwed the second bolt giving and advantage to the Makita
Uhh no. He flipped the block to start over. No crack when the B&D screw was in. The Makita made a new crack when it was half in.
I agree RisingTech
The makita is just better trust me, I’ve used one forever
Caught that too. Yes he flipped it over and drove the bolt with the B&D . When he was driving the second bolt the block split .
It also looked like he was pushing harder with the Makita I mean look how much harder he is hold the block with the other hand
Is it a skookum choocher?
It let the smoke out,
I'd say you keep your empire of dirt much more organized. Keep your safety squints engaged.
I actually go the opposite direction. I believe that swearing or cursing is just another tool in my vocabulary toolbox. Yes, I have a plethora of non-curse words in my repertoire. However, there is a time and a place for such words.
So you'd be fine talking like that in front of your 4 year old? Where's the power coming from then?
Clay have you ever seen how sweet Ave is with his daughter?
The wood split while the Marita was driving in the lag, making it a bit easier on it to complete the drive. It was not quite a fair test. But i can say from experience, out of 9 B&D drills and impacts i have purchased, 6 of the motors went bad in under 1 year.
QuestForTheOpenRoad did you also spot the BaD was driving the screw in to a big not making it harder
Saved me the trouble of pointing out exactly that.
ant3695 no, but now that you mention that... im not asking cody to change what he did, i just wanted to point it out for people really wanting this info. I would also recommend B&D tools, but know they are cheaper, and a bit lower quality. I have had many, because I like the variety of tools that can be used with the same batteries, i have at least 20 batteries now.... lol
"only a rich man can buy cheap tools"
Also the Black and Decker seemed to be going into a knot.
The noise from the chargers is a fan to keep your batteries cool, so they last much longer.
How did you get to be the first comment
That's why the fan blows directly into the battery, yeah right.
The fan is to keep the charger cool.
Black and Decker is for DIYers who use the tool a few times a year for light use. The makita is for avid DIYers and pros. Totally different use cases.
Bosch is the best fools!
@@OfficialFatLip hell nah
"Well how about we just do this till one of them blows up" ..... Stops after 10 sec. "Wow this is really getting hot". WTF DUDE!!!
I came on board to see smoke and flames
It was sped up...
@@madduck692002 LOL !
Cody, Ryobi is owned by the same company (Techtronic Industries) as Milwuakee, AvE also said that Rigid is made in there Techtronic's factories but I can't find anything on it.
Here you go..www.ttigroup.com/en/our_brands/
Rigid might be made there? but it's owned by Emerson industries, not tti from what I can find on Wikipedia.
TTI ownes Milwaukee and Ryobi. Based in Hong Kong.
DeWalt, Porter cable, Black & Decker are owned by Stanley and US based.
R.D. K I know that Ridgid is owned by Emerson. Someone who is reputable (AvE) said that TTI's factory makes tools for Rigid. I just can't find anything else on it and thought that someone might have better luck finding out than me.
Ridgid is the US variant of AEG tools. Sold exclusively at Home Depot in the US. AEG is sold in the rest of the world and is manufactured by TTI
Love the reviews, but damn, could your bias be any more obvious?
What do u man bias please explain.
@@bobbyjeff32 boi
@@bobbyjeff32 prejudice all in all
@@killaz123456789100 If you were testing out a cheap tool wouldn't you be a little skeptical.
He’s a terrible reviewer
7:31 cat in the backround ; "whats he´s up to this time"
I saw it too.
The Makita charger makes noise becouse it has a fan to cool the battery while it is charging and you can change the beep on the Makita charger.
More importantly, the charger electronics doing the fast charging.
Yeah, and it takes like 30 min to charge it to full, that's why it's got a fan. When you charge super fast you need cooling.
"What did we learn from this?" When you're checking for hotspots use the back of your hand so you don't burn your palm
I have to say, I'm a hitachi guy. All my hitachi tools have proved themselves time and time again. Love the test but I'm gonna stay with my favorite. This tends to be a ford, dodge or chevy argument :). Wise men and women on all sides of the conversation.
The Hitachi Triple Hammer is simply the best.
I love my hitachi gear too it's not China made from tech industry's like Mikita royobi ect ... japan is where quality is at and that's where hitachi is made
My wife is a big fan of Hitachi. It's weird because she doesn't seem to know anything about power tools.
tj323i, some people just have a good vibe about tools
Indeed, women do tend to have great intuition.
I have been using a used Black + Decker impact of the same model for over 2 years now 5 days a week removing about 20 screws a day, changing the battery about once a month. I have dropped it from 4 to 5 feet high to the ground 10 to 15 times and it is still going strong. I use 2.0 AH batteries on mine. I think it is money well spent. And yes Black + Decker and DeWalt are made by Stanley Black and Decker
Agreed. It's a fantastic value buy for a DIY.
I'd like you to compare a cheapo with an expensive one.
Then with the amount of money for the expensive one, how many cheapos (for the same money) it can destroy.
That's actually a fking great idea man, he needs to try that
8:47 The sparks inside is from new brushes.
My Makita drill also had that in the beginning, it's normal and it means that the brushes don't have seamless contact with the commutator.
The irregularities in the contact grind away after some usage.
My brand new Milwaukee drill does this too because I bought the brushed instead of brushless because it was alot cheaper.
I've been running the Porter Cable 20vL outfit (first gen) (3 drills, c-saw, rec saw, a-grinder) for about 8 years and i couldn't be happier.
Gives me everything i ask from them
I'm a homeowner....not a contractor, however, I've put the sawzall/ rec-saw through literal hell and it still chuggin along like a champ
what did we learn today? dont touch hot impact drills
Should have taken the Makita and finished driving the lag bolt that the Black and Decker stopped on.
if the wood breaks, it is easy to screw, in the first attempt black and decker screwed because the wood broke, the second try not ... when makita screwed, the wood broke, is not a fair comparison.
Am I the only one who noticed that Black an decer bolt went in to the knot???
robfromaz1977 hi
Wish he would have done that too but i have no doubt it would have done it. I own makita but I've used cheaper brands and there's no comparison
Yep.. wood has knots etc
The noise from the makita chargers is the fan which is essential to cool the battery while it is being charged.
The batteries charge at such a high temperature that cooling them down will make the life of them much longer
He's talking about the beeping
For a beginner I am going to get the black and decker
My dad has the old original black & decker drills. They used to be so tough back then
I have a B&D orbital sander and the thing terrifies me lol. I'll flip it on sometimes and it's RPMs are way out of wack.
Then I have a cordless string trimmer that seems to work okay with light duty use.. so.. not sure how I feel about them.
I'll always have a soft spot for anything Makita.
Brendan Stanford old electric black and decker would break your wrist and throw you off a ladder
so does my uncle and his father my father has the 9.5 volt one
Brendan Stanford I bought all Black n Decker drill, circular saw, and jig saw when I got married in 1975. They still running great, including my wife.
Brendan Stanford I don't know if it's cause black and decker now owns dewalt. If they've made that their profesional line or what. But b&d electric tools aren't any good. They're hand tools are still pretty great. (It's Stanley black and decker).
It’s very helpful having a Tone play when the battery’s done, as you’re rarely working near the charger. That’s what I’ve found at least.
The Makita was able to drive the lag screw because it split the wood through the hole already screwed by the B&D.
And the 2nd B&D screw was being driven above a knot.
blackilluzionz yes I know I reading though th comments and I was going to say the same thing
Should have seen if Makita could have finished putting the same screw in. Lost opportunity there.
I came here to post this as well. The Makita may be better but that test wasn't fair.
My Makita can drive a 10 inch screw into a wooden block and take the (impact wrench-tightened) lug nuts off of my tires, so I wouldn't worry too much about the "fairness" of this test.
Love the kitty in the background wondering what’s going on he’s come thru a few times and the noise doesn’t bother him one bit! Love my Makita drills never been disappointed
take it to pieces and compare the components, vs holding and saying heavy is better?
dfgdfg I guess this is a more practical layman's review. But if you're interested in that you might want to look at the 'Popular Mechanics' magazine. I got mine when I was 11 and I've loved it for all three years I've had it!
T.T.G Krydder or watch AvE on UA-cam, this video is like a children's version of his content. He breaks down tools to really reviews them down to the bits.
Idiotology101 I'll check him out, I was just suggesting he might like popular mechanics. Thanks for the suggestion.
why the hell are people taking this so seriously? while he is "testing" them, he is primarily just messing around. only a moron would think that he believes this is a proper and extensive testing on the tools..
It's good he done that do you know how many people would buy the 20 volt thinking it would be better
The noise from the makita charger is a cooling fan. That's a good thing. lol I'd like them to keep that particular feature
I use the Makita impacts daily to put couplings on pipe every day at work. It’s a well made tool and tough. It takes falls from scissor and boom lifts, ladders and scaffold and gets back to work in almost every case. I don’t mind the singing charging stations, personally. Battery life is pretty good as well. It’s pricey, but you get your money’s worth out of it in my opinion
Apparently you can even change the tune of the charger...
He touches it and says oo that’s hot then asks what we learned from this I said don’t touch a hot drill😂😂
I switched from drill to impact a few years ago, never went back. Even for drilling. I love my Milwaukee
Johnny Utah old comment but I love my Milwaukee grinder so much I couldn’t resist. Going on 2 years of being welded into my vise and various other tortures and it’s still my best grinder
Other than a hammer drill for concrete. You dont need a regular drill
@@miguelledezma1394 entirely false
@@TarantuLandoCalcuLingus its true. Drills are garbage nowadays
@@miguelledezma1394 in my line of work we need drills, driver are too fast
@Wranglerstar The burning electronics smell is likely due to the brushed motor arcing and burning out, the Makita wouldn't have that smell since it is brushless, same reason as to why the B&D had lights on the inside. From the brushes arcing.
Also the reason for the size difference he points out in the beginning. Not really a 1:1 review here.
I stand corrected,
I never knew that Makita made a brushed drill, all the tools I have seen and own are brushless, and I didn't even realize that they made a brushed version until I went to their website and scrolled all the way down. The more you know...
or, the more logical reason is the bit turned by the Makita in the B&D, causing friction, hence the burning smell... or is that just me?
As a plumber my Milwaukee impact goes with me everywhere. Most used power tool.
I love the imprecision of these reviews. No attempt to be high minded, just try a bunch of stuff.
Been watching AvE, have we?
Rubberneck Rides exactly what I thought.
Rubberneck Rides have you watched it? He mentions Ave's channel.
Gotta get ideas from somewhere...
yup, no hate here.
I thought the same thing.
Black n decker does have a higher end line called dewalt
et hilti est pas mal non plus
I thought it was a different brand 😅
xIVIx yes it is , but they've owned dewalt for a while, might as well call dewalt bnd's higher end line.
tmaq97 stanley- black and decker still owns and makes dewalt today..
you mean the homeowner wannabe "craftsmans" brand DEFAULT....lol...both are garbage
Makita charger is louder cause it has a built in fan. To protect your battery from over heating. Very good quality for fast charging.
braden sullivan i prefer makitas slow charger that doesnt have the fan. its easier on the batteries
I love my makita impact driver. I've taken lug nuts off with it. And it is just so useful
Volts aren't directly connected with power. It's actually volt and ampere multiplied (Watts) that determine how much energy the tool actually draws and then there is efficiency and the gear ratio. So often more volts mean more power but there is a lot more to it.
The 20 volt rating is actually quite a lie when you consider that both 18v and 20v tools are at 20v when under NO load. The voltage drops instantly when put under load so the 18v rating is the actual true voltage you can expect from both 20v and 18v rated tools.
this guy made a 15 min video and screwed one screw and tried it against each other faaacking hell dragging it out like mad
Don’t watch it then
I think thats the purpose of the video to determine what impact it’s worth the buy so you don’t have to trash your money.
it all came down to the bigger battery of the Makita (3AH) VS the smaller B&D one (1.5AH).
the amperage of a battery not only mean the time it last but also the more continues power it provides, while the voltage only gives the max speed of it.
I scrolled down to find this comment. Given a common discharge rate of 10c means that the Makita battery will provide 600 watts, while the B&D battery is only capable of providing 270 watts. Try to find a like sized battery and try the test again.
Makita will destroy any black & decker driver in every category regardless of battery size
DeWalt, craftsman, Stanley, Porter cable tools are all made by black & decker 🥴
guys i wanna beg to differ. im in the UK, run a music/video studio and a small woodshop. i own the impact and hammer drill set from b and d...and they've never stalled never failed and i get a full mornings use out of the batteries..better still the batteries take less time to charge than to run down so i never get left with no juice. its all about horses for courses. i use these on my family's clinker build antique boats and converted steel horsebox food truck too.... i love them. each to their own ay! keep up the vids man. peace
Does anybody else notice that he drilled the B&D directly into the knot of the wood.. which is by far much harder than the rest of the block. Not at all a fair test.
Doesn’t matter, the bd is far far inferior to the makita
@@kayvalencia2223 i have a brushed Makita impact, on the third lot of brushes and 7yrs old (good tool) but a knot that size is a challenge for all.
Your Makita is brush-less the black and Decker is brushed. that's why its weaker the battery is 20V but brushed motors aren't as efficient as brush-less.
I was about to write something similar, but noticed your comment :)
You can tell Cody is an experienced gun owner cause even using impact drivers he keeps the finger OFF the trigger at all times. Lol.
I was noticing the great trigger discipline.
Lol. True and a funny observation. Not sure I'd have Cody build my deck without giving him specific instruction after seeing him split that block by running two bolts along the same grainline, but I would trust that he respects weapons enough not to accidentally fire one off😋
I bought a small’ish Black & Decker lithium-ion drill once and the motor burnt out (let the smoke out) the first time I used it, I was drilling a screw into wood and it stalling and the motor fried. I returned it and bought a little DeWalt 12v combo kit with a nice little drill and small impact driver….. I still have it today, the batteries are still strong even being in my super hot/super cold garage. I use that impact driver for everything! Working on my car it will twist lug nuts off and I’ve mounted MANY flat screen TV’s with it putting lag bolts (with pilot holes) into studs. The last TV I mounted (huge 75’ screen) broke a brand new lag bolt in half when the bolt hit something hard as I was driving it in. Great little impact driver, VERY strong.
Lithium Ion Cells have about 3,7 Volts each. So if you put a couple together, you get about 18,5 Volts with 5 Cells in parallel.
But, if fully charged, a Cell holds up to 4,2 Volts. And if you look closely, the cheap ones battery says "Max 20V". So they are clearly cheating here, they also use the 5 Cells but call it 20 Volts, due to them being 4,2 Volts each when fully charged (which would actually make 21 Volts).
The Makita one with its 3 Ah propably has 10 Cells, 2 packs of 5 Cells (5 cells in parallel for the 18 Volts and 2 of these packs for doubling the Ampere hours to 3 Ah, instead of 1,5 Ah)
5 cells in parallel would have the same voltage as one cell. They would have to be in series to make 5 times the voltage.
I guess u meant 5 cells in serie amd 2 cell in parallel. (2P5S) ???
The battery of the black and Decker wasn't even fully charged
Austen Reynolds 😢
And it's not broken in either.
Well with lithium batteries wether its fully charger or half its still going to send the exact same output until its entirely dead. Thats the best part about lithium unlike the nickle or nicad batteries they run slower and slower until its dead but lithium is 100% until the end haha
It wouldnt have made a difference
@@rickdrysdale892 Lithium doesn't break in. Your first use is your best performance, it always will go down with heat and cycles.
Hey great videos but after watching a couple comparisons you have made mention of 18V vs. 20V. They are the same thing... just depends and where on the discharge curve you take the number. As far as I've seen as I've seen so far they all use 18650 Li-ion cells which have a rated voltage of 3.7V but can be as high as 4.2V fresh off the charger. Basically both use 5 cells in series in their packs and the larger packs parallel an additional 5 cells for the greater capacity and obvious size. So the difference 18V vs. 20V is just marketing.
in 2016 I bought the last two tool Porter - Cable 12 volt cordless drill and impact driver set at Lowe's here in Canada. They were no longer going to sell 12 volt Porter - Cable tools. I wanted just the drill because it had been highly rated in tests on a contractor's tool test website. I got both for a fantastic $ 100. I have never seen as good a deal. I had no idea what an impact driver was for, and so I sold it after much difficulty for $ 35. I wish I had kept it ! The drill is FANTASTIC ! Nice and compact with loads of torque and great speed. Great batter life, too. I read that for general household use 12 volts is enough. You don't need 18 or 20 volts. A contractor will, though. Now I am hearing that Stanley - Black & Decker who own DeWalt. Porter - Cable, and Black & Decker are going to discontinue the Porter - Cable line. They plan on merging it into their Craftsman power tool line which they bought when Sears went belly up. DeWalt is their premium "contractor" brand, Porter - Cable is their mid range line, and Black and Decker is their budget line. Thirty years ago Black and Decker corded drills, and Skills corded drills were good rugged tools. Today, not any longer. Skil I am not sure about but Black and Decker tools are JUNK !
‘A step above Hitachi.’ Did I hear that right?
Yeah I kinda raised an eyebrow at that comment I have Hitachi tools at work but have Makita for my personal tools. I have no issues with the Hitachi tools they work well haha way better than anything Black and Decker I know that!
In Germany Hitachi is a premium brand. Comparable to Makita, DeWalt and Milwaukee. But i think those are sold as Metabo(the Light Green ones) in the us.
your one stop shop for a middle aged man yelling at a battery charger to shut up
This bloke!
Top comment right here.
Sorry
Chef John Warren and the wood split when using the mikita.
Chef John Warren EXACTLY
Chef John Warren
it split the block a little and made it easier for the Makita to drive the second screw in
He should have tried to drive that bolt that the B&D couldn't with the makita. That would've shown if it had more power. Or drive in 10 bolts each and the decide.
The diff in power is in the Amp/Hours Makita 3A/H , B&D 1.5 A/H the 2 V diff doesn't matter much.
The Makita charger blows air through the battery as it's charging to keep the cells cool allowing it to charge at a higher amperage. The only brand to do this I think. It increases battery life and reliability. I have 2 batteries and use my tools hard. There's always a charged battery when I run one down.
Skookum wah? Make er chooch eh! Welcome to the empire of dirt! AvE =D
Ave is a ToolSkookuum Vice Wangler
Skookum as frig
Almost let the schmoo out of the black and wreckr
squeeze Your Black&Decker
Nice at we have ave fans
The Makita charger has programmable sound.
Just put the battery in/out quickly to set the musical or sound of your choosing. Perhaps, read the manual too.
Really?
Thats cool
I think if you rapidly do it 3 times it goes into a silent mode. So no music.
Maybe he's talking about the fan also
Only if the charger has the music notes on the light panel. Otherwise it doesn't.
This mans just called Hitachi "low end" tools.
He also said ryobi is at the same level as those budget black and deckers lol
Tyler Doepker He ain’t wrong.
@@alexanderraykhert1019 ryobi is actually quite a bit better.
@@alexanderraykhert1019 I've used quite a bit of their more recent tools. They're pretty solid for the price.
@@flippingdrummer Agreed. Keyword though; for the price. Ryobi makes good stuff for the price, however, build quality is obviously lower to compensate for the price. Like internally might be more similar, but the outer body is much cheaper. I haven't worked with much from Ryobi because I abuse my tools and I know Ryobi couldn't take what I would be putting it to the test for, but for lighter work, Ryobi has got my approval. For real abuse though, I've found Ryobi to not being able to take it. So on a job site, I could easily go through Ryobi easily, if you're looking for basic housework, don't see why not.
DISCLAIMER: I do know Ryobi has made some significant changes and bringing on more products, just haven't worked with them enough. Their older stuff, maybe like a year or two old, that's where the above applies.
I have had a Black & Decker drill for over 15 years and it still works. Decided to purchase a newer model last year and currently getting ready to buy a B & D impact driver..
cheapest angle grinder or dremel / rotary tool
Makita 3AH vs Decker 1,5AH. No sense.
Makita 18 v black deck 20 v
@@giutiger7240 Makita 54 watts
Black and Decker 30 Watts
Not a fair comparison
@@martynm.449 LOL thats not how it works... Can you imagine a drill like this only running on 30 watts? Both drills are running at the same voltage its just that Makita chooses not to use marketing nonsense to sell tools. 20v unloaded 18v under load, same as every other 18 or 20v tool.
@@dalegribble2339well this is my experience: I had a water fed diamond saw at work. The standard battery was a 12 volt 3ah (36 Watts) battery. It worked fine. The blade would cut the glass quite happily and you'd have a nice edge. To get a bit more longevity between charges, I wired in a 12 volt 7ah battery (84watts). All of a sudden It was absolutely ferocious! It would jump around and buck like a horse. It chewed through the glass and absolutely butchered it! I then went on to build an electric bike. I found that more capacity will actually give more performance, and vice versa, more volts will also give more range. Even though this is not how volts and amp hours are normally thought of. I will try to find an online source which will back this up and post a link....
@@dalegribble2339 howtoebike.com/best-ebike-battery-a-beginners-guide/
That explains quite well my experience. However, if you still don't believe me, get some crocodile clips, some wires and connect a larger capacity battery up to one of your tools. Keep the voltage the same and see how much more torque you now have.
I suppose that's how a seemingly small 12v car battery can crank a starter motor (and even push the car forward if in gear) it has so much torque. Although, if I'm being fair, I did use a lead acid battery in my saw not nickel metal hydride, and lead acid may have more oomph possibly??? I'm just trying to be fair and honest. I totally see what you mean about the 20v and 18v rating. It might be that I'm not comparing apples with apples. All I can speak of is my own experience. And that might be skewing my belief. Who knows?
Kind regards, Martyn
have to say, first time i have ever seen or her of your videos. just kind of stumbled across them, but you actually do some valid, educational, informational, stuff.. Keep up the good work. I love them!!
I have a Black and Decker Impact Driver and it's absolutely fantastic for dismantling e-waste( I do that for a full time job for E-Cycle Limited NZ). Great for screws a regular drill driver can't remove and for undoing bolts holding the Cathode Ray Tubes to the front frame of a CRT tv with a quarter inch socket adapter.
Test a cheap cordless circular saw
Im a carpenter and I use a ryobi cordless circular saw sometimes. It always works great. The key is getting the Lithium Plus batteries because it drains the normal ones quickly. But cordless circular saws work wonderfully as long as you use them properly. I also have a Makita worm drive and it is obviously no comparison. Because actually craftsmen dont expect tools to do more than their purpose.
Broken Wave. I agree a good tool doesn't make a good craftsman, but was also taught to buy the best u can afford, buy cheap buy twice.
Idk about the validity of this particular test.
The Makita had a higher output batter (3mah vs 1.5)
The Makita drills screw was placed right next to the B&D causing the board to crack
The 2 drill tug of war im not certain but it looked like they were both spinning with each other and not against each other
A note about the capacity:
An amp-hour is a measure of output over time, not in the moment. A 3 amp-hour battery can put out 1 amp for 3 hours, or 1.5 amps for 2 hours, and so on, before it needs to be recharged. The voltage rating is more telling of the power the battery puts out, and the voltage of the B&D is actually higher. The makita won because it was a brushless motor, which is more powerful for its size.
@@jacobg5122 The thing about the 20v batteries in tools is it's based off unloaded fully charged cell voltage. The 20v and 18v have the same 5 cells in series.
Fully charged lithium cells are 3.6v, but fully charged it's 4.2v. Once it's down to 90% it stays close to 3.6v on a shallow voltage curve until the very last 20%, then the voltage curve steepens till 3.0v cutoff.
@@Jaker788
Hmm, that sounds like false advertising on B&D's part. Never knew that about nominal voltage, although I do work with vehicle batteries a lot and I know that a lead acid cell is 2.1 volts, which results in a 12.6v battery.
@@jacobg5122 it's debatable. Yeah for industrial lead acid batteries we use nominal voltage, a 36v 18 cell battery is actually 38.34 fully charged, but we still call it a 36v battery. It's just standard to use nominal voltage instead of something more like your max voltage.
@@Jaker788
Not to mention that the charging circuit is usually 10-20% higher than the actual voltage, so an 18v charger might put out between 19.8-21.6 volts. When they say 18 volts, it's probably just to simplify the numbers.
Wranglerstar trying to let the more expensive one looke better but failed😂😂😂😂😂11:48
How? Of course they will both warm up after use
one was 'hot'...the makita was 'fucking hot'
I have one of the black and decker drills that allows me to change the heads around from impact to reciprocal saw, to a routing tool, to a circular saw, and so on. Its a crazy little drill tool and all the attachments run around 39.99 a piece. The crazy part of it is, I have owned the drill for about 10 years, and the little guy is still running like the day I purchased it! Now I have numerous other professional tools, but this is a nice little set when I am in a pinch, and I will say without a doubt that black and decker has proved themselves to me with this little multi-use tool!
The B&D is almost as good for twice as less money. The black & decker took the W
I’d like to see a Milwaukee impact against a DeWalt since there’s such a big debate over them in the construction world.
The noise from the makita chargers makes a lot of sense on a jobsite. if you have several workers there making all sorts of racket and need to charge several batteries, its nice to know when ones done charging and you can put on the next one.
But wouldn't the noise just get drowned out by the you know jobsite noise. Cause if I'm not mistaken it can get pretty noisy.
Clearly needs an app with phone notification. (Kidding. Most tradesmen have a pretty good sense when the battery will be done charging since they do it every day.)
ik from experience i 9 times out of ten never hear it
Next hyper tough impact vs the new 40volt xgt makita
About 20 years ago I ran a Makita 18v cordless drill running 3½" screws all morning on a construction site. I had 4 batteries and as soon as I ran one dead I charged it and ran another one. The drill handle was too hot to hold comfortably and I actually overheated a battery or two. Never missed a beat and didn't fail me.
and 20 years ago it was probably not brushless like the LXT model in the video.
@@unperrier5998 it had brushes for the motor, there were little plugs to change them
@@drrocketman7794 yes, my point.
The makita charger beep can be changed to a song. Love it
Christmas Lights? Ever heard of brushed and brushless?
Whoosh
This guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
If you use any tool only the way it was intended and look after it, it will usually last as long as possible. You should always pre-drill for large screws and you would never put two tools face to face like that. A better test would have been to do a durability and longevity test making a larger task with repeat actions and then evaluating the handling, power drop-off curve and amount of work done on a single charge. That would be useful for those of us on a budget to understand the difference between a budget consumer tool and a professional grade tool. Most DIY users could no doubt manage just fine with a Black & Decker, while a proffesional would value the durability and longer work time of the Makita.
Black and Deckers heavy duty brand is....Dewalt :)
TheDudeRTR ❤️ I love my dewalt impact
@@jaredcrabtree9676 as you should, they're great.
I've had 3 sets of the makitas, best drills ever, very durable
Creighton Fox milwaukee fuel ruled the market
Yeah, i prefer maktia power tools too.
Are they that durable if you've had 3 😂
Makita makes the best battery powered tools PERIOD! !!!!!!!!!
Creighton Fox you just said you've had 3? Can't be that good then
Got one of those Black and Decker ones, used the crap out of it and it's still going strong. Really surprised with its quality for the price honestly
Leam Seaton same here, hasn't let me down yet and has handled everything that I have thrown at it.
I have the Black & Decker drill from that line and that little s**t lasts all day drilling into metal roofing and it gets it done. I don't doubt it just up and dies one day but it's better than nothing.