Wranglerstar I bought an 8" adjustable wrench from snap-on. -made in sweden- in 2005 I still use it every day today, I am a 50+ hour a week heavy equipment mechanic. There is a difference.
@@tonzokinawa realistically you shouldn’t. But i use them all the time on little pinches i find. My craftsman one i have before they turn to china junk is probably my favorite tool.
As an electronics technician in the Navy we didn't have a lot of larger tools in our shop. So we borrowed them from the "IC communications" group who were more like electricians and had tool cage where you could check out tools. A warrant officer was in charge of that department and thought electronics technicians didn't know anything about tools and insisted they as for a tool by its exact proper name. I liked messing with him. So one day I went to the tool cage when he was nearby and said "I need to borrow a wrench.". He says, "What kind, open end, box, adjustable end? What size?" I said, "It doesn't matter, I'm going to use it as a hammer anyway."
Charles Kinzer -- Ah... "Improvisation" -- The key to making any average worker's tool box perform like the best handy man's chest! :-) --I grew up in rural W Michigan and kept motorcycles, snowmobiles and ski boats running fairly well working in my garage alone. Only full engine rebuilds, re-bores and welding did I send to the shop. :-) (I was a young man with plenty of free time on my hands and a generous father to finance my efforts back then.) :-)
@@chivalryalive Of course, in my case, it wasn't an "improvisation" but rather a joke and a poke in the eye to that warrant officer. But I get your point. For some things, you have to improvise or you can't get the job done while waiting for a special tool, or you can't afford the special tools. I once had a Yamaha Virago motorcycle and to buy the factory recommend set of tools that a Yamaha shop would get (super long Allen wrenches, all sorts of stuff) cost over a thousand dollars. And I've certainly made tools. Such as one of those wrenches that are square on the end to remove water valve seats. I could whip it up faster and cheaper milling some flats on a right angle bent rod on a milling machine than driving to the hardware store to buy their cheapie version. I used to make various security bits as I needed them until I finally bought a set.
@Majadi, tools on a ship are dangerous. Everything has to be fastened or caged in the event the ship leans, or worse. If each person had their own tools, you can bet your bottom dollar some of them wouldn't be stowed. If one person is in charge of the tools for his shop, you know exactly who to throw overboard if things go badly.
Meh it all depends what your using it for, cheap tools aren’t bad so I mean it’s just your preference but expensive tools if you want really it’s all the same
I hate all.... I somewhat agree, but I can't justify buying a 50 dollar snap on wrench, when I can buy a set for 20 bucks at harbor freight. Especially when I can just replace it for free if the cheap one breaks. Now power tools, that's a different story. With those I noticed you get what you pay for.
The original patented 1891 is from Sweden (Bacho Tools) and cost $350 ! Chrome vanadium Swedish Steele. It will last for you, your son and your grands son.
English engineer Richard Clyburn is credited with inventing an adjustable spanner in 1842.[4] Another English engineer, Edwin Beard Budding, is also credited with the invention.[5][6] Improvements followed: on 22 September 1885 Enoch Harris received US patent 326868[7] for his spanner that permitted both the jaw width and the angle of the handles to be adjusted and locked. Swedish company Bahco attributes an improved design, in 1891 or 1892, to Swedish inventor Johan Petter Johansson[8][9] who in 1892 received a patent.[10][11]
8:46 "You come as deep as you can" 9:15 "Come in, tighten it, make sure you take the play out of it, and then you seed it as deep as you can" 9:26 "What we're gonna be looking for is how the tool reacts under all of this load"
Been a mechanic for sixty years. Used and tried every tool imaginable and of every make and brand. For certain things you need the very best no matter the cost. For others, cheaper tools work just fine. I have broken just as many Snap-on and MAC sockets as the cheap ones however. Sometimes it is luck.
"You know life is miserable in many aspects, and we all have a lot of trouble and heartache. But where ever we can find joy, even if it’s just in simple things like tools. Or things that make us happy. That we are proud of. That we enjoy and we look after. That to me, - that has a value too, that shouldn’t be discounted" - Wranglerstar 2017
Charles Lindberg was the 92nd person to fly the Atlantic. He was the first to do it *solo*. The first across were Alcock and Brown in 1919 - eight years earlier.
lol Lindybeige, just saw your crossing the Atlantic video a few days ago, and was actually on a transatlantic flight from SCL to LHR yesterday and thought about Alcock & brown while I ate Shepherds Pie, drank a beer and watched blade Runner @ 37000 feet...
Omg, i opened this video, he said "Charles Lindbergh was the first to fly across the Atlantic" and I was like "Hold onto my hat young sir, time to get Lindybeigh on the case!"
The $2 ChiCom wrench works fine for 99% of household needs. The $35 wrench is for professionals, or guys/gals who like the fit and finish of nice tools. Rather than entertaining us with the destruction of a cheap tool, do a comparison of a $35 S&K wrench vs. a $35 Heyco (from Germany) and we'll learn something useful.
In Germany we got the old saw saying: Wer billig kauft, kauft zwei mal, einmal billig einmal teuer. Which says translatet: the guy buying cheap, will buy twice, once cheap, the second time expensive
That's for sure. I bought a $700 laser tool about ten years ago. It was too expensive so I bought a cheap one first. I didn't work when I needed it most, so I bought the mid-range one. It didn't work all the time. I ended up with the expensive one that works perfectly every time. I paid twice what I could have bought the good one for right away. Learned that lesson for life!
I can understand the logic but such quotes are too absolute to be true.For example this chinese wrench, looks to be working just fine for an average house simple tasks.So If someone wants a wrench just to replace a broken faucet whenever that happens , every extra euro will be a waste of money cause he simply doesnt need anything above that. In other words you dont need a ferrari to take you to work...
Nice, in the Czech Republic we have similar quote: "Nejsem tak bohatý, abych si mohl dovolit kupovat levné věci" - which translates as: "I am not so rich to afford buying cheap stuff"
I used to walk past the Crescent Tool Co factory on my way to school in the 70's. You could hear the hammers pounding the steel stock flat for the dies to punch out the flat parts all over town on cold winter nights. At Christmas time, the company put large strings of lights above their front door in the shape of a Christmas tree that you could see from many places in town.
Might I suggest making a larger breaker bar.. You made a very good point about quality versus budget. Personally I had to go with budget choice versus higher in quality. I'vee said more times than I can count if you're going to make your money using your tools only a fool would not by the top of the line tools. Myself I turn the wrench to keep my own stuff on the road I don't make my money doing it.
I came from China and I agree what some people have said about how poor the quality is on some tools or something else. However, don’t blame China all the time because the buyer or purchaser set the standard on how good and how cheap they are going to be. There have good quality things over there as well but the big buyers won’t buy them because there will be no profit for them al all. Everybody knows Milwaukee is making good tools in China however come with the price people have to pay.
It used to be the same here in the U.S. with cheap quality. People don't remember all of the cheap garbage produced in America over the years. They just remember the high quality stuff that's 50 years old and still working, but that stuff cost a mint when it was originally sold. Most of the cheap stuff is produced overseas now because the margins are so tight and it's less expensive to produce goods in China, not because China can't produce quality goods.
Horses for courses really. For an average household where such a tool is used maybe 5-10 times without a lot of force, a $35 tool is a waste of money. For someone who works a lot with his tools and needs strength and durability, a $5 tool is a waste of money. I know for a fact that things produced in China can be of superb quality, that's just not what's asked for most of the time. If someone's browsing German tools, money is probably no concern and they want high tech and great quality. So that's the market most German manufacturers are competing in and trying to outperform each other. These customers will probably dismiss anything with a "made in China" label, so it's hard for a Chinese manufacturer to compete even if they produce great stuff. But most customers who are considering "made in China" products are probably most interested in low price. So naturally that's the market most Chinese manufacturers will compete in and try to outprice each other. And naturally, if your business is to make the cheapest possible, your products can't be as good as those of some premium brand. That doesn't mean the Chinese can't build good stuff, just that it's not what most customers want them to do.
Here in the UK, Facom - ok, it's French, but European none the less, is a great brand with a high price. Draper is more middle of the road - some tools are sturdy enough to do the job, while others I question. But there's no quality on offer from China - just the cheap junk I wouldn't waste my money on. That's what the CE sticker means by the way - Chinese Export, or Check Everything if it's electrical. Sorry if I sound so negative about Chinese stuff, but really Britain is getting fed up of throwing stuff away every day. Sell us something that competes at least with European quality.
I try to buy American whenever possible too. But the $5 tools are loaner tools. "Hey neighbor, do you have a wrench I can borrow?" "Sure" (hands over $5 tool)
I buy chinese. if I break it, I upgrade. Simple and saves so much money. If I use a tool enough to break the cheap one, the expensive one is worth it haha
@@scottwhitley3392 As a Brit, I'd be interested to know what British brands you consider worthwhile buying. The ones I see on the shelves nowadays are not what they were. I tend to go for vintage stuff or German/Swiss etc. Japanese for small stuff when I find something suitable.
“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.” ― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
That's dead wrong. You don't get rich by saving money. The only way is to make more money. The issue with most poor people is that they don't make enough money.
Glox, I ain't met a poor man yet that saved his money right. My dad has always told me to buy the best you can afford, and that's something to live by. (Save for electronic devices.) Buy the best you can afford at the time and count on it to last you years rather than months, you'll be better for it in the long run.
I always bought the cheapest shoes I could find. I managed to dig out a pair of boots from some old program and I started wearing those. They've already held up better than any shoes I ever bought before. They're not even really good boots. They're just decent-quality ones that aren't the cheapest ever. I'm not sure I can go back to the cheap-o shoes I used to wear. The same with kitchen tools. I used to buy the cheapest of anything. I got a chance to purchase real, quality versions of kitchen tools that I used all the time and replaced constantly, and these have not only made cooking a better experience, but they've also lasted several years. Heck, just my knives have paid for the investment I put in them. And same as the boots, they're not even the best knives out there. You can spend $100 on a knife that you can pass down to your kids. I spent $100 on a set that's lasted me five times as long as a $40 set has, and have made it far more enjoyable to slice, chop, & pare. When I replace them, I'll replace each one individually for that $100. Well, maybe a bit more for some of the bigger knives. The exception to all this is my grandmother's cast iron skillet, which is still in use today. That said, it's now in use by my sister as I left it at her house almost a year ago.
There's plenty of room for both philosophies in this world. I have quality tools and I have sacrificial tools. You nailed it when you said you will own 40 Crescent wrenches. Yes. I have many. I have good Craftsman adjustable wrenches in my tool box and I have no name adjustable wrenches stashed all over the place. On my boat, in my truck, probably a few floating around the house, a few laying around the garage...If I need to use my own "I will break thee", in my case a three foot galvanized pipe, I won't think twice about breaking a sacrificial tool. If I lose one in the lake over the side on the boat I won't give it a second thought. It is not an either/or proposition. Cheap tools rock.
+Tenspeed TheBikeHanger Agree. Also, I kept my good tools tightly locked up in my garage and cheap throwaway tools in my truck box. Sure enough, everything in truck box stolen.
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger as I've been able to I've started buying nicer tools, and more specialized tool, my old stuff has now become sacrificial tools. I love my 3 in 1 craftsman screwdriver, pry bar, and punches!
Would I buy a $35 wrench? No. Would I buy a set of three for $5? Also no. I'd get a few reasonable ones for a total of about $30 because I won't use them enough to justify the cost of the really good ones and I will probably need more than one.
I just don't get the point of this video. It will be shocking that a $35 wrench is NOT much better than $5-for-three, regardless of which every country made the wrenches. It's like comparing McDonald burger beef to steakhouse Sirloin.
It is not a "logical" video. Most guys just want to see him break a $35 wrench. Then you have a group hoping he supports the expensive one and another group hoping he supports the cheap one. The "test" really doesn't prove a thing as even the cheap wrench went well beyond what it was designed for before it broke. At the end of the day all you really need to know is whether the cheap wrench is adequate. I say this video showed that it is. Is it better than a wrench ten times it's price? I should hope not. What should you buy? Whichever one you want. period.
This man is basically a racist, out to prove that his preconceived notions are correct. So he invents a ludicrously skewed test, comparing an expensive wrech with one that cost **1/21th** as much, but then in conclusion blames the source(chinese vs. american) rather than the cost difference, for the difference in quality.
Trevor Hoft the thumbnail picture shows a wrench with the handle twisted like a Twizzler making us think he twist one of these up like that but he does not
The US wrench is made out of hardened steel which will break instead of flex. This allows for better grip on bolt heads and etc. The Chinese wrench is made out of softer steel which will flex causing it to slip off and round off bolt heads.
I've had handles of Chinese wrenches snap cos they were made from cast iron. it looks like the us one had a drop forged hardened steel handle, but the other jaw was cast iron alloy. that's why it snapped. they should have made that part from a chunk of hardened steel and machined it to shape.
The thing I got out of entire Wranglerstar channel is that... The cheap tools aren't actually that bad, if you're not a woodsman, a mechanic, or an engineer of some sort, there really is no need to buy the expensive one, the cheap one works just fine...
I buy old American made crecent wrench from flee markets and yard sales. It is usually around $5-$10 depending on length. The older tools make me happy when I use them. I let people barrow my Chinese cheap tools not any USA made tools.
The best pair of vise grips I ever had, I literally found on a parking lot as I went to buy bagels in San Antonio. It was an old pair of VICE GRIPS branded pliers made in the USA. Unfortunately, as my luck would have it, that pair went missing after a year or so of hard use where it just didn't fail to do what I needed it to.
you can still get them new ;) i have a set that are 60 years old and just got 2 clones of it new .. 100% identical ;) as you say ; they are the best ;)
greg stevens I have bought new Vise grip pliers that are made in China (Irwin bought the brand name), and they just weren't as good as that pair I found on the ground.
We tested a $60 irwin 18" adjustable wrench. It was 28 Rockwell, compared to 36 of U.S. made crescent, and in less then a week the pin for the thumbwheel failed.
My high school woodshop teacher has a sign in his classroom that says "The bitterness of poor quality will last long after the money saved on a cheap tool is forgotten."
One of the principles at the heart of the English Arts & Crafts movement of the late 19th/early 20th century. I believe this is a quote from William Morris, but it's also been linked to Benjamin Franklin and Henry Royce (of Rolls Royce fame). Either way, a worthy life lesson.
Entrance of the kitty @ 18:36 is priceless. 'Purr'fectly matched to the narration. ; ] I had to go back and watch again to confirm what I thought I saw. It made me smile. I've been caring for some feral cats at work, starting well over a year ago with the momma of two of them. The brief time spent with them throughout the day is the best part of it. ; ] Pure, simple joy.
Save yourself some time and skip to the 5:30 mark. Remember, you can find lot of great, quality tools at garage sales/yard sales. You get great tools for a few dollars.
It would be a cool idea to have another camera angle facing you when you exerting all you energy on to the I will brake thee Just so we get a better understanding of how much force each tool is taking Just an idea
I found that usually spending the money on quality stuff is the way to go. It works better and never fails plus it is way more fun to use quality tools instead of cheap ones. Great video as always!
I agree on quality tools, they fit and work better. But Snap-On goes way overboard with their prices. Example is car jacks. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack is is a great jack. Is identical to the Snap-On one for hundreds less. My USA Craftsman adjustable wrench is superior to the Snap-On one which has a lot of play in it.
agreed... not to mention when you buy quality stuff, most of it comes with a life time warranty, and is built tough enough to actually last a life time
The pride and joy of my collection is an ancient 10'' AT-110 Crescent manufactured in Jamestown, N.Y. I found it on an old Aboriginal reserve while erecting portable car ports. I pulled it from the ground and used it for the rest of the job. That wrench spent a minimum of 60 years (at least) underground and worked just like new! Thank you for the upload but it always saddens me to see tools destroyed
Great video as always however the history of this tool isn't quite right. The adjustable spanner/wrench was not invented by the Crescent company in 1917. It was in fact invented by Johan Petter Johansson in Enköping, Sweden. He invented both the plumbers wrench and adjustable wrench in 1890 and obtained patents for both in 1891 & 1892. From 1892 his tool was mass produced and distributed by the B.A. Hjorth & Company based in Sweden under the brand name Bacho. I'm a long time collector of these amazing tools. I'd love to see a shootout between a Crescent and a Bacho, a true battle of the Titans!
Reinier Niens Lol! You're absolutely correct! I didn't notice I had misspelled it. Kind of laughable considering I collect their tools! Well spotted! Here in Scotland we typically call them "shifting spanners" or "shifters".
MiJaK123 I've got my grandfathers original champion dearment channellocks from 1933 and they still work great, channellock just plain makes a great tool for not a lot of money.
Man.. I really like this guy. He's smart, charismatic and very likable. I can feel his passion and enthusiasm in almost everything he say's and does. He's very sincere in all things he says. Keep going my friend, you're crafting beautiful content! Edit: And last but definitely not least, not to forget his humor :-D
I have seen a dynameter for testing cables on youtube, that would be very accurate. Of course he would have to get a chinese version and a Made in USA version. and talk about them for two hours.
He cannot configure the extension tube to properly fit the handle of the wrench. It really is unbelieveable it did not slip off when he pulled on it. And, a drive shaft is overkill anyways.
"Ya get what you pay for" has never been truer than when you by tools. My advice is if you don't make your living with it and your life doesn't depend on it then go cheap.
By the time the Cresent Co "invented" this it had been in use for 75 years in Europe. Mass produced since 1892. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner
I was concerned about the same thing. It's a shame to destroy good tools without doing a worthy test that you can actually learn from with real numbers and not ish measurements.
I've found high quality vintage tools like Crescent wrenches at a garage sale or Estate sale or auction that have already lasted a lifetime or two for a quarter. I cherish those too! 🙂
I had some old Craftsman tools that dad left me. I didn't have room for them in college or my apartments and so I left them in his shed for a long time. They rusted and thus got weaker. After cleaning them up, I heat treated all the hand tools with a parts oven and powdercoated them green to match my Ryobi saws. They are stronger than they have been since new. I'd love to see what kind of force would be required vs the factory tools and modern craftsman tools, but replacing them is impossible. Edit: I should specify that he died when I was 15 and that I didn't know a damned thing about tools at the time beyond how to use a few. Now I have a small garage of my own and a penchant for keeping tools in great shape.
You need to understand the Chinese attitude to making items for export as opposed to making items for domestic use. Chinese exports ave, until a few months ago, aimed at vacuuming as much premium currency, (£ $ euro), into the state bank's vaults as possible. Make things to sell so cheaply that all but professional buyers will buy the price, not the item. Currency flows in at an alarming speed = mission accomplished. I know many people in Guangdong province involved in export sales and I have learned that the same reasoning can be applied to almost any family of product. That's why it is easy to but a Chinese quartz watch for less than the cost of fitting a new battery to a quartz watch in any UK business serving the general public. Since the Chinese watch may not outlive its battery it represents neither a good deal nor a bad one. Now go to the maintenance workshop of a Chinese watchmaking factory to see what tools Chinese cutting-edge industries use for their work. Well, they are Chinese, but it's "not (Chinese) as we know it!" If you were a regular user of high-quality Occidental tools, and you had been efficiently blindfolded, you would not notice any difference handling and using high-quality Chinese hand tools compared with high-quality Western hand tools. the tools Chinese manufacturers supply to demanding Chinese manufacturing and service enterprises. There is no expectation that those tools should bring in floods of strong currencies. Are the Chinese being cynical when they deliberately work to an "irresistible" price for one market and to an "irresistible" quality for another? Yes. Do they care? No. Should they care? Yes. But they do not believe that "you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time", and it is impossible to convince enough Chinese industrial leaders that the "fooling some of the people some of the time" period is bound to end one day, brutally and unannounced, to make any impact on their behaviour. There is a massive Chinese steel-making sector, producing very little special steel, nearly all of which goes to government suppliers and government projects. That would cover their military hardware manufacturers, and the national plans for creating a competitive aero-space sector, a competitive automobile sector, etc.. Like many other steel articles manufactured in China, the presentation will refer to whatever the buyer wants to see marked on a tool and its packaging, not necessarily to what is actually in the tool. Molybdenum? Well, it does say so on the handle of a tool and on its packaging, but that does not guarantee the presence of any particular component of any steel alloy in the tool itself. I can talk the hind legs off a donkey, but I will have to learn how to talk the hind legs off, for example, a deep-water oil-drilling platform if I am to have any chance of convincing watch manufacturers, knife makers, office staple manufacturers and the manufacturers of hand-tools and surgical implements and equipments to stop using the same grade of stainless steel. That spanner/wrench you have just ordered may be made of the same steel as the back plate of your new watch, and, until Western buyers can resist goods that can be delivered to them for less than the manufacturing cost, sometimes less than one-tenth of the manufacturing cost, of their Western equivalents there is very little chance of changing the Chinese industrial culture, where pragmatism is pushed to its ridiculous extreme. One day I will get one Chinese industrial to stop saying "They want to buy, we want to sell, so where is the problem?", but I am not holding my breath.
Do Chinese care about only making top quality products? No, they don't care. In the future, I suppose they will still make same products from 1 dollar range to 1,000 dollars range in business if anyone requests. Beside, most of 1 dollar Chinese stuff are imported by American business men. American business men import Chinese products to sell that is not about nation glory, it is only about money.
Harbor Freight has several different quality levels of hand tools. Their "professional grade" tools get good reviews when compared to Snap On, Matco, etc. Seems the Chinese tool manufacturers are no longer going after only the foreign budget tool buyer.
I know many people from GZ and was there many years ago.. and the core problem with chinese, they can never do something correct, they always seem to have mistakes or make stupid mistakes and not professional enough.......... because they want money fast and living in the moment and do not care about tomorrow or quality. This is not china themselves, fully to blame it was the opportunity which the western bankers and technocrats which allowed china to open and flood the markets to other countries mainly attacking the western markets.
Knipex tools are awesome. That said, I'd put my 18" Crescent up against anything. I've used it everyday for 20 years, with as much as 6' of pipe on it. U.S. CrVa steel is pretty damn good. Most Chicom tools are made of chewy, soft mystery steel. Even expensive Chicom "irwin" branded adjustable wrench tested only 28 Rockwell. Soft enough to easily deform under normal use.
In this specific circumstance it appeared the only real advantage of the better quality tool was when they were abused in such a way that you'd never even choose to abuse your good tool anyway so you'd likely never see that extra utility out of it. That said I'd still say the point stands that you should always go as quality as your budget will allow because you are likely to get more use over time out of it.
This variant is a Swedish invention patented in Sweden 1892 by inventor Johan Petter "JP" Johansson. He joined a man named Berndt August Hjorth and then formed the company (B)erndt (A)ugust (H)jort & (CO) BAHCO
Well i learned that when i broke the U.S.A. made wrench i don't have a spare wrench... If you break a chinese made wrench you will still have 2 more spares to continue your work😂
I'm pretty okay with buying marked up items when they're made in the USA because I like to support our own work force if I can help it. I usually steer away from "designed in USA, assembled in china" bullshit too. So in this case i'd choose the way more expensive wrench not even just for quality reasons, but for economic ones.
I'd agree, the Chinese tool would likely be a couple dollars cheaper, unless it was made by Apex. But there are really good Chinese tools out there now.
What he failed to test is a middle-range foreign-made wrench, such as a Craftsman / Stanley / Irwin / Dewalt / Crescent / Husky (HomeDepot) / Kobalt (Lowe's), which is a classic Wranglerstar bumble, because ironically one of those is what most of us have.
m2hmghb you are assuming we all live in north America. For me, living in Western Australia that $35 American made wrench could be $100+ and i could buy any number of asian or european quality brands for the same price or substantially less. The buy homegrown stuff doesn't apply because i am not American, the warranty ( if there is one out of the US) is no different to any other brand but it comes from further away so will take longer. The further from the US you go the less you find the quality is better, and more just an extra dot point to add $30 on the price tag
While the first iteration of this spanner was originally invented in 1842 by British engineer Richard Clyburn, today’s adjustable wrench, the ‘Swedish Key’, is attributed to Johan Petter Johansson, a Swedish inventor who improved upon Clyburn’s original concept and patented it in 1891.
Greetings from Sweden! 1891 A swedish fellow named Johan Petter Johansson pat. date for one of his inventions “monkey rench” adjustable spanner 🔧 He had 110 pat. Cressent is a bicycle over here 😀
This isn't a US vs UK spelling issue, this is a France vs England issue, and it seems in *both* countries, *both* spellings are valid. Although I'm sure in different regions of each country, different ones are preferred. So basically, use whatever one you prefer, because this argument pre-dates the US by a few hundred years. Heck it predates modern English.
The Chinese $35 wrench will beat the pants off the USA one. Have a look at Fluke multimeters for an example of this. Compare the $100 Chinese market model to the $100 American market model (if you can even find one).
More accurately he compared a $35 vs $1.66 ($5/3) crescent wrench. So for the same price that's 1 USA vs 21 Chinese wrenches. Worst an 8" Snap On wrench costs a whacky $72.50 store.snapon.com/Flank-Drive-174-Plus-Adjustable-Cushion-Handle-8-Adjustable-Wrench-P884284.aspx
The point is whether or not you want to spend more money on the American made wrench compared to the cheap Chinese wrench, its obvious the more expensive one is more likely to be a better product but the point of the video is to see if it's worth the extra money to someone who is looking for a wrench.
Rubberneck Rides Dude...you've got no clue do you. THere's no chinese wrenches that cost even more then $10(in china)... exept really big pipe wrenches. THis is not a simple math question... Stop acting like you are smarter to choose the $5 one. It's like everything ever get produced... You get what you pay for. If china can come up with a wrench that would compare to a $35 one, why would they price it at $5? It's so funny that I'm from china and I would buy better quality tools for more money, even if I can't afford tools made in Japan, USA, Germany... I would get a taiwaness one. A chinese tool is my last option...I dont have to tell you how many times Ive broken cheap chinese wrenches for normal around the house uses.
Just bought an entire tool kit made by crescent and I don’t even know where they were made but I’ve never been impressed by the thoughtfulness and neatness of just simple tools, and I’ve never been happier
You did make a good point - adjustable wrenches are good for boat anchors - no professional technician would consider using those to do their job - maybe for a paper wight.... I've been turning wrenches for 30 + years and never found a need for one - use the right tool for the right job!
you said it all right there. i'm not a professional by any means, but i can fix just about anything i tackle. if i don't know how, usually in a couple hours, i'll have a google and youtube masters degree on how to fix it. in 40 years, i've discovered one thing for sure..... anything that you can use an adjustable wrench on.... that cheap one will be fine, because it should stay in the tool box while you use the proper tool.
the Chinese Wrench seems to have more flexibility to it where as the other wrench has no give so once you hit the point of breaking the metal will just snap where as the Chinese wrench had the inside of the Teeth chewed away under the pressure the Chinese wrench has slightly less sheering strength and honestly if your going to need to put that much leverage behind a wrench your probably using a full size torque wrench for general every day use just go with the Chinese Wrench
Another option would be to spend $5 extra dollars and get an even nicer Chinese-made wrench from a major brand, which is likely even far more durable, likely close to as good as the SK wrench. I really feel like not testing a higher-end but cheaper Chinese tool vs the SK one is a huge miss, I mean how much more durable is a Dewalt adjustable wrench (at less than half the cost) vs the SK tool? A lot of folks buy the cheapest products for one-time use or to round out a set, where the cheapest option works just fine (and if it doesn't you just return/exchange it), but most DIY folks and even a lot of pros will buy the mid-range option because the quality/price is best. Nothing wrong with splurging if it's a tool you abuse multiple times a day, but that probably won't be the case for most even pros, they're going to need multiple wrenches for various sizes (even adjustable) or they're likely going with a socket or fixed wrench, in which case buying the highest-end option is going to put a serious dent in a pocketbook.
silencesummer This is why he should have tested different quality wrenches. It would have made more sense to label the video as low quality vs high quality since there are low quality American made wrenches. I always buy mid range tools because I tend to lose tools in the field. Mid range is the best way to go if you use tools on a daily basis. I've never had a problem with them and, like you said, don't put a dent on the pocketbook.
Matthew. Rizzi I have used a harbor freight stick welder for a long time it isn't the best but It is about how much you want to put up with it. I would not trade it for my tombstone Lincoln welder. My favorite part is the warranty every 15 months or if it breaks no questions asked I get a new one.
*There are only a few companies left in the USA that make adjustable wrenches. The SK Branded one shown here is made by Western Forge. Western forge also makes Craftsman, Proto, MAC, and Matco adjustables. Very good quality steel. The best value is by far the Craftsman three pack with different sizes.*
That's quite odd. We call them wackadoodles where I'm from. They're great for removing stubborn quozzlies on the old bargain carts. I just assumed that everyone around the globe called them wackadoodles. Oh well, carry over and pip pip felitz!
Folsomia I'm not sure if it can be called an "invention" as, in my knowledge, he received a patent to modify the previously invented wrench/key. Reply if I'm not right, please.
Crecent wrench? Never heard of! That is a swedish patented thing invented and patented in that shape in 1892... Made by Johan Petter Johansson, in his company Enköpings Mekaniska Verkstad... That is now known as Bacho!
Everything he says goes for someone that uses their tools to make money. For me who just need tools to occasionally fix something I'll stick with the 5 for 3 deal.
Yes!! Everyone should START with cheap tools. If they never break then you never even needed to spend those 500% extra money for the quality. It's WHEN THINGS BREAK that you invest in quality. That's when you know it's worth it for the work you personally do. A complete toolbox and some machines for your average garage can cost 1000s of $. Better to spend 2000$ than 10000$, and then have 8000$ saved for your car/projects. If you START with quality tools, you won't ENJOY it more because you don't know how crappy a cheap tool would have been. So again - START with cheap tools. Just don't go "poisonous plastic, child-labor, slavery-manufactured" kind of cheap. Buy the cheapest tools from a reputable brand or store.
// , Just make sure that you're not fixing something expensive. Sometimes the price one pays for cheap tools is the damage they can do to what I'm using those tools to repair. I've learned some very difficult lessons from this that nearly killed me.
Well this is what I do on my job, if I'm going to use a tool very often I get a good one, craftsman, matco, snap on, etc. But if I'm going to use one tool just one or 2 times I get the cheaper
Mark, you have no idea. Those wrenches (adjustable open end wrench) would get you fired at big time auto repair places or on Power Plants, Refinery, Chemical Plant construction sites. Ran a few off myself. One thing we would do when someone would come to hire-out with us is to look at their tools. Anyone with one of those wrenches were directed to our competition hiring office/site and told to get rid of the"Cresent Wrench"; that way our competition would be hiring a slug and giving us more advantage. Yeah, just leave that tool under the sink at home, in the tractor tool box or in the barn. Those damn wrenches have even got entire companies run of a project by the customers Chief Inspector or QA/QC Manager.
Stoopingcrane it also depends on if you push the envelope. If you're using a 6 inch crescent wrench because that's what you happened to have but it's doing the job a much bigger tool ought to be doing then you'd better hope it's a good one. I always buy quality small tools, especially adjustable wrenches, for this reason.
Made in USA I've had good success with the pliers wrench from Knipex. It never slips without warning. The harder you turn, the tighter it grips plus there's 10:1 leverage advantage squeezing the handles. Still, there is a point where the nut will force the jaws open against your grip, but you can feel the handles parting and either grip harder or back off without rounding the fastener. I've had these deform fasteners by crushing them but I've never had them round one off.
its BAHCO www.zoro.com/bahco-adj-wrench-8-1-2532-cap-black-9031rus/i/G4143721/?msclkid=c2e7b8c0272e169e6239e350122c0745&RLSA_PLA_Site%20Visitors&Hand%20Tools&gclid=COn3iOfSpN0CFQe8swodFxkDxQ&gclsrc=ds
If a cresent wrench is turned in the opposite direction as advised in the video, it will stress the movable, weaker jaw far less, due to the lack of leverage of the resistance of the bolt being turned. The video clearly shows that. I suggest testing another wrench in the opposite direction to determine the difference in strength.
I love these test videos. You should try out a knipex pliers wrench. First one I bought was hard to drop 50$ on a wrench. Ended up replacing all my crescent wrenches with them. I like all of knipex tools but I don't think I can justify paying that much more on their other wrenches but the cobras and pliers wrench are the two worth it.
Chris Fox you think it was hard to drop $50 bucks on one?? I bet yours is big enough to be frequently useful. 😁 I dropped $58 on the little "86 05 150" TSA compliant sized one for my laptop bag, for those rare occasions I need a wrench on the go. That was hard to justify to myself, but I done it.
Hah, I just made a similar comment. The Knipex 86 line are just superior to adjustable spanners in every way (expensive though). I'm not sure how well they'll stand up to being reefed on with a large breaker bar, as generally if you need that much torque you'd be using a different tool in the first place, but for their intended use they're superior to any regular adjustable. ...And yes, their pump pliers are better than any others I've come across as well.
I am just not a fan of the 86 line. I have plenty of other Knipex tools, and I love them all... except for the pliers wrench. I've been carrying the cobras and alligators (their slip joint pliers) for a 10+ years now, and they are very impressive, but when it's time to break a hex loose I still want a wrench.
Chris Fox, based on your enthusiasm for the Knipex pliers wrench i looked up a video on it and I am very impressed. My beloved Channel Locks may have to move over.
I have 86 05 180 pliers wrench, an 87 02 250 cobra, and a combo set of mini 86 03 150 pliers wrench and 87 01 125 cobras in a tough nylon pouch. And a lot of other Knipex tools. The pliers wrench style is unbeatable.
I went to a pawn shop the other day and got an inspection camera brand new for $20 when it was for sale there for $25.95. And I picked up a Skilz palm sander brand new with every attachment, never used for $25 and they were selling it for $35. I Bartered with the guy whereas if I bought both I asked the guy if I can get a good deal. So he gave me a really good deal.😁😁😁
I have been working on just about anything for 40 years and I will say this,ANY tool that is abused will break, I have spent more on stitches and burns than replacing broken tools, all mechanics learn that the right tool and used proper will get a mechanic further, A cresent wrench is a tool that has so many different uses and please understand that the tool trucks charge big money for tools because of the truck and truck costs and then the driver wages, when you buy the popular tools it is a status thing, most of the tools on the truck are no better than the tools that can be had from places like harbor freight, get the right tool for the job and use your head to do it right and you have made more money instead of making them big payments,
Yep....and probably never used a 3/4 inch SK ratchet set. I once had TWO cheater bars hooked onto the Tbar of a SK socket ,with a 24 inch extension going into the internals of a skid loader . I was standing on a 4 foot cheater bar while my helper used a 3 foot cheater bar. I estimate I used about 1200 foot pounds removing a lock tited axle bolt which I could not heat to weaken.
I've never had anything, not one dang thing from Harbor Freight last. Their tools have nearly cost me my life and or limbs more times then I'd like to admit. Rule of thumb, if the tool isn't from U.S.A., it will cause you problems or even kill you. Facts are that good mechanics use good tools, it doesn't mean they're pritty tools or brand new Snap-on, it just means their American tools made with American materials. Never buy tools from a country that eats cats and dogs unless you absolutely have to. Thanks in advance.
gonna call bullshit on that one. plenty of tools will do ya just fine no matter where they're made. taiwanese sockets (impact or chrome) are just fine. snap-on impact sockets are only good for a couple years before they're wallered out so bad they won't fit the anvil, and no they won't be warrantied. if there's a tool i only use once or twice a year, chances are i'm not going to pick it up off the truck. find a decent quality one that fits your wallet and go for it. preferably it's from a country that has some sort of human rights recognition, but that's politics and not tools. yeah, a $2 wrench from good old commie china is garbage, but there are decent options out there. nice tools are nice. i get a funny feeling in the pants every time i drop cash on the truck, but it IS NOT a requirement for everything.
tr0n well yeah, some things do make logistic sense up to a point, even still though I've had really bad luck with communist chrome but a spare set of sockets is never a bad idea. When I was in school, cheap tools were all I could afford, I've burnt through every wrench and socket from thoes days since with many lessons learned. I'm more or less speaking of weight-bearing tools like stands, jacks, big wrenches and things of the like, that have made the job a few too many times dangerous. My instructors used to collect any non American tools and put em in the scrap cars to go to the crusher lol, they weren't allowed because they caused so many problems. I can't rely on communist tools, they just don't work for me in my 13 years as a certified mechanic. They always make things worse. If I didn't use em all the time it might be a different story I guess but they still eat cats and dogs....
You know I came to this video to be entertained, and I was. I was not, however; thinking I’d learn a life lesson at the end. You put the rational behind spending lots of money on things into perspective for me. Pay me know or pay me later, was so true. I just bought a Trijicon RMR for my new Glock and it killed me to spend that kind of money on that optic, but you’re so spot on about taking care of things that mean so much to you as opposed to cheap tools. Thank you for that. I really learned something from this video. And long time subscriber of your channel.
Great new! This S&K Wrench Just Went On Sale * * *goo.gl/igMEgW * * *
Wranglerstar Like 3 dollars off?!?! Now that's what I call a sale!
You can purchase a janky Chinese made with the 3 dollars you saved!
And you have a secondary use for the cheapos, as "sinkers" when you go fishing.
i like the saying "buy it nice, or buy it twice."
Wranglerstar I bought an 8" adjustable wrench from snap-on. -made in sweden- in 2005 I still use it every day today, I am a 50+ hour a week heavy equipment mechanic. There is a difference.
My biggest test for crescent wrenches is seeing how well they stay at their setpoint while in use.
I hold my finger firmly on the nut as if I'm trying to tighten it the whole time I'm using them LoL. Because I'm paranoid it will slip.
Exactly. No one should be using a crescent wrench with this much torque...that’s what wrenches and ratchets are for.
@@tonzokinawa agreed, but that’s not the point. He’s seeing how they are different in quality hardness etc. that’s just my opinion though.
Agreed.
@@tonzokinawa realistically you shouldn’t. But i use them all the time on little pinches i find. My craftsman one i have before they turn to china junk is probably my favorite tool.
I wanted to see the handle twist like the video image.
Me too, that was mis-leading.
Kinda the only reason I watched so early
I enjoyed the video so much I totally forgot about the thumbnail. I wish that had been in the video, but at least the video was very good on its own.
That doesn't happen, dang
Not a big problem for a man with a forge.
As an electronics technician in the Navy we didn't have a lot of larger tools in our shop. So we borrowed them from the "IC communications" group who were more like electricians and had tool cage where you could check out tools. A warrant officer was in charge of that department and thought electronics technicians didn't know anything about tools and insisted they as for a tool by its exact proper name. I liked messing with him. So one day I went to the tool cage when he was nearby and said "I need to borrow a wrench.". He says, "What kind, open end, box, adjustable end? What size?" I said, "It doesn't matter, I'm going to use it as a hammer anyway."
Charles Kinzer -- Ah... "Improvisation" -- The key to making any average worker's tool box perform like the best handy man's chest! :-) --I grew up in rural W Michigan and kept motorcycles, snowmobiles and ski boats running fairly well working in my garage alone. Only full engine rebuilds, re-bores and welding did I send to the shop. :-) (I was a young man with plenty of free time on my hands and a generous father to finance my efforts back then.) :-)
@@chivalryalive Of course, in my case, it wasn't an "improvisation" but rather a joke and a poke in the eye to that warrant officer. But I get your point. For some things, you have to improvise or you can't get the job done while waiting for a special tool, or you can't afford the special tools. I once had a Yamaha Virago motorcycle and to buy the factory recommend set of tools that a Yamaha shop would get (super long Allen wrenches, all sorts of stuff) cost over a thousand dollars. And I've certainly made tools. Such as one of those wrenches that are square on the end to remove water valve seats. I could whip it up faster and cheaper milling some flats on a right angle bent rod on a milling machine than driving to the hardware store to buy their cheapie version. I used to make various security bits as I needed them until I finally bought a set.
Lmao
@Majadi, tools on a ship are dangerous. Everything has to be fastened or caged in the event the ship leans, or worse. If each person had their own tools, you can bet your bottom dollar some of them wouldn't be stowed. If one person is in charge of the tools for his shop, you know exactly who to throw overboard if things go badly.
That is what vice grips are used for.
I buy the cheap tools first, and I only buy quality for the stuff that actually ends up getting used often enough to ever end up breaking.
Dude I agree with you as much as I can.
Meh it all depends what your using it for, cheap tools aren’t bad so I mean it’s just your preference but expensive tools if you want really it’s all the same
I buy cheaper tools for the most part because they still have life time warranty
Joe Gooslin sometimes, it really just depends how much your gonna used them, or depend on them
I hate all.... I somewhat agree, but I can't justify buying a 50 dollar snap on wrench, when I can buy a set for 20 bucks at harbor freight. Especially when I can just replace it for free if the cheap one breaks. Now power tools, that's a different story. With those I noticed you get what you pay for.
How about a $35 us vs $35 Chinese wrench test?
@Nikolas De Moulin I didn't say quality. I said $35
The Chinese dont make a 35 dollar wrench
@@abcdaw22 sure thing yang, whatever you say bud.
The Chinese don't have a capability or way to do hard metals like we can in the US. It's not possible to make that comparison.
Bret Hager cuz US is so special😉
The original patented 1891 is from Sweden (Bacho Tools) and cost $350 !
Chrome vanadium Swedish Steele. It will last for you, your son and your grands son.
Rickard Liljekvist - I just commented on Bacho. Agreed, They are the best! Mine are still going after 10 years
I'd love to see it go up against a bacho
That's the tool C Lindberg took with him. A Swedish tool for a Swedish guy!
14$-26$ in amazon.
English engineer Richard Clyburn is credited with inventing an adjustable spanner in 1842.[4] Another English engineer, Edwin Beard Budding, is also credited with the invention.[5][6] Improvements followed: on 22 September 1885 Enoch Harris received US patent 326868[7] for his spanner that permitted both the jaw width and the angle of the handles to be adjusted and locked. Swedish company Bahco attributes an improved design, in 1891 or 1892, to Swedish inventor Johan Petter Johansson[8][9] who in 1892 received a patent.[10][11]
You didn't even use it as a hammer. Do you know how use a crescent wrench? 😂
nickel Braun oh man... GUILTY.
shhh, don't give away all the crescent wrench secrets !
You need one of these www.amazon.com/Mine-Tools-HW12-Hammer-Adjustable/dp/B00H87JEBE
My thoughts exactly. I've used a cresent as a hammer more than my actual hammer
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8:46 "You come as deep as you can."
Two kids later...
That's how I heard it too
He also said, “not always an option “
The moment I heard that, I went to the comments.
I was not disappointed
Durty !!
That’s what’s see said
8:46 "You come as deep as you can"
9:15 "Come in, tighten it, make sure you take the play out of it, and then you seed it as deep as you can"
9:26 "What we're gonna be looking for is how the tool reacts under all of this load"
I am detecting a theme here
Based
Yeah its not always an option but you come as deep as you can
@8:46 "come as deep as you can, not always an option, but when you can, come as deep as you can."
Great advice. ;)
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@@timweijers5512 I was looking for the love of my life, Muddy Fukker. I found him in this here comment section. I can't wait to have kids.
8:46 "Come as deep as you can" - Words to live by.
WasitacatIsaw? :-)
Not always an option but whenever you can, come as deep as you can
But just whenever
That's what she said.
Words to make life by.
Been a mechanic for sixty years. Used and tried every tool imaginable and of every make and brand. For certain things you need the very best no matter the cost. For others, cheaper tools work just fine. I have broken just as many Snap-on and MAC sockets as the cheap ones however. Sometimes it is luck.
"You know life is miserable in many aspects, and we all have a lot of trouble and heartache. But where ever we can find joy, even if it’s just in simple things like tools. Or things that make us happy. That we are proud of. That we enjoy and we look after. That to me, - that has a value too, that shouldn’t be discounted" - Wranglerstar 2017
42 likes on a sentence explaining "The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything"; coincidence? I don't think so !
8:43 "You can see it's already starting to flex and open up. *You come as. deep. as. you. can.* " Life motto.
J M a good life motto indeed ... UNLESS you don't know the girl and you're not wearing a condom
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's how you get stuck with demon spawn for 18 years.
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"not always an option but when you can, come deep as you can"
I spat my coffee
Charles Lindberg was the 92nd person to fly the Atlantic. He was the first to do it *solo*. The first across were Alcock and Brown in 1919 - eight years earlier.
You been looking for a wrench? Do you need that for crossing the Atlantic and ditching me on that graphic novel I kickstarted a long time ago? ;-)
lol Lindybeige, just saw your crossing the Atlantic video a few days ago, and was actually on a transatlantic flight from SCL to LHR yesterday and thought about Alcock & brown while I ate Shepherds Pie, drank a beer and watched blade Runner @ 37000 feet...
Lindybeige you show up in the strangest places:)
Omg, i opened this video, he said "Charles Lindbergh was the first to fly across the Atlantic" and I was like "Hold onto my hat young sir, time to get Lindybeigh on the case!"
LINDYBEIGE !
The $2 ChiCom wrench works fine for 99% of household needs. The $35 wrench is for professionals, or guys/gals who like the fit and finish of nice tools. Rather than entertaining us with the destruction of a cheap tool, do a comparison of a $35 S&K wrench vs. a $35 Heyco (from Germany) and we'll learn something useful.
yep !
Well it wouldn't be much of a comparison.
Are European tools generally better than American made ones?
Yes.
In Germany we got the old saw saying: Wer billig kauft, kauft zwei mal, einmal billig einmal teuer. Which says translatet: the guy buying cheap, will buy twice, once cheap, the second time expensive
That's for sure. I bought a $700 laser tool about ten years ago. It was too expensive so I bought a cheap one first. I didn't work when I needed it most, so I bought the mid-range one. It didn't work all the time. I ended up with the expensive one that works perfectly every time. I paid twice what I could have bought the good one for right away. Learned that lesson for life!
haha.... that's me
Clemens Romeis Jop haste recht
I can understand the logic but such quotes are too absolute to be true.For example this chinese wrench,
looks to be working just fine for an average house simple tasks.So If someone wants a wrench just to replace a broken faucet whenever that happens ,
every extra euro will be a waste of money cause he simply doesnt need anything above that.
In other words you dont need a ferrari to take you to work...
Nice, in the Czech Republic we have similar quote: "Nejsem tak bohatý, abych si mohl dovolit kupovat levné věci" - which translates as: "I am not so rich to afford buying cheap stuff"
I used to walk past the Crescent Tool Co factory on my way to school in the 70's. You could hear the hammers pounding the steel stock flat for the dies to punch out the flat parts all over town on cold winter nights. At Christmas time, the company put large strings of lights above their front door in the shape of a Christmas tree that you could see from many places in town.
Might I suggest making a larger breaker bar..
You made a very good point about quality versus budget.
Personally I had to go with budget choice versus higher in quality. I'vee said more times than I can count if you're going to make your money using your tools only a fool would not by the top of the line tools.
Myself I turn the wrench to keep my own stuff on the road I don't make my money doing it.
Bacho in Sweden invented and patented it First.
I came from China and I agree what some people have said about how poor the quality is on some tools or something else. However, don’t blame China all the time because the buyer or purchaser set the standard on how good and how cheap they are going to be.
There have good quality things over there as well but the big buyers won’t buy them because there will be no profit for them al all.
Everybody knows Milwaukee is making good tools in China however come with the price people have to pay.
It used to be the same here in the U.S. with cheap quality. People don't remember all of the cheap garbage produced in America over the years. They just remember the high quality stuff that's 50 years old and still working, but that stuff cost a mint when it was originally sold. Most of the cheap stuff is produced overseas now because the margins are so tight and it's less expensive to produce goods in China, not because China can't produce quality goods.
Absolutely right. I bet a chinese manufacturer can do a decent wrench for 35 $ too...
Nice to hear your voice brother.
Horses for courses really. For an average household where such a tool is used maybe 5-10 times without a lot of force, a $35 tool is a waste of money. For someone who works a lot with his tools and needs strength and durability, a $5 tool is a waste of money.
I know for a fact that things produced in China can be of superb quality, that's just not what's asked for most of the time. If someone's browsing German tools, money is probably no concern and they want high tech and great quality. So that's the market most German manufacturers are competing in and trying to outperform each other. These customers will probably dismiss anything with a "made in China" label, so it's hard for a Chinese manufacturer to compete even if they produce great stuff.
But most customers who are considering "made in China" products are probably most interested in low price. So naturally that's the market most Chinese manufacturers will compete in and try to outprice each other.
And naturally, if your business is to make the cheapest possible, your products can't be as good as those of some premium brand. That doesn't mean the Chinese can't build good stuff, just that it's not what most customers want them to do.
Here in the UK, Facom - ok, it's French, but European none the less, is a great brand with a high price. Draper is more middle of the road - some tools are sturdy enough to do the job, while others I question. But there's no quality on offer from China - just the cheap junk I wouldn't waste my money on. That's what the CE sticker means by the way - Chinese Export, or Check Everything if it's electrical. Sorry if I sound so negative about Chinese stuff, but really Britain is getting fed up of throwing stuff away every day. Sell us something that competes at least with European quality.
I try to buy American whenever possible too. But the $5 tools are loaner tools.
"Hey neighbor, do you have a wrench I can borrow?"
"Sure" (hands over $5 tool)
Or, or, you just say no. 😜
European (German, Swedish, Swiss especially and sometimes British) are the best I find.
Japanese nepro
I buy chinese. if I break it, I upgrade. Simple and saves so much money. If I use a tool enough to break the cheap one, the expensive one is worth it haha
@@scottwhitley3392 As a Brit, I'd be interested to know what British brands you consider worthwhile buying. The ones I see on the shelves nowadays are not what they were.
I tend to go for vintage stuff or German/Swiss etc. Japanese for small stuff when I find something suitable.
“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
I thought Russian communists made the best boots.
That's dead wrong. You don't get rich by saving money. The only way is to make more money. The issue with most poor people is that they don't make enough money.
Glox, I ain't met a poor man yet that saved his money right. My dad has always told me to buy the best you can afford, and that's something to live by. (Save for electronic devices.)
Buy the best you can afford at the time and count on it to last you years rather than months, you'll be better for it in the long run.
I always bought the cheapest shoes I could find. I managed to dig out a pair of boots from some old program and I started wearing those. They've already held up better than any shoes I ever bought before. They're not even really good boots. They're just decent-quality ones that aren't the cheapest ever. I'm not sure I can go back to the cheap-o shoes I used to wear.
The same with kitchen tools. I used to buy the cheapest of anything. I got a chance to purchase real, quality versions of kitchen tools that I used all the time and replaced constantly, and these have not only made cooking a better experience, but they've also lasted several years. Heck, just my knives have paid for the investment I put in them. And same as the boots, they're not even the best knives out there. You can spend $100 on a knife that you can pass down to your kids. I spent $100 on a set that's lasted me five times as long as a $40 set has, and have made it far more enjoyable to slice, chop, & pare. When I replace them, I'll replace each one individually for that $100. Well, maybe a bit more for some of the bigger knives.
The exception to all this is my grandmother's cast iron skillet, which is still in use today. That said, it's now in use by my sister as I left it at her house almost a year ago.
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There's plenty of room for both philosophies in this world. I have quality tools and I have sacrificial tools. You nailed it when you said you will own 40 Crescent wrenches. Yes. I have many. I have good Craftsman adjustable wrenches in my tool box and I have no name adjustable wrenches stashed all over the place. On my boat, in my truck, probably a few floating around the house, a few laying around the garage...If I need to use my own "I will break thee", in my case a three foot galvanized pipe, I won't think twice about breaking a sacrificial tool. If I lose one in the lake over the side on the boat I won't give it a second thought. It is not an either/or proposition. Cheap tools rock.
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger hard to beat a 4in1 screwdriver and adj wrench stashed in every vehicle. Better to have a shitty tool than no tool!
+Tenspeed TheBikeHanger Agree. Also, I kept my good tools tightly locked up in my garage and cheap throwaway tools in my truck box. Sure enough, everything in truck box stolen.
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger **goes to neighbor's house** "I got you a present!" **thows wrench**
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger as I've been able to I've started buying nicer tools, and more specialized tool, my old stuff has now become sacrificial tools. I love my 3 in 1 craftsman screwdriver, pry bar, and punches!
Would I buy a $35 wrench? No. Would I buy a set of three for $5? Also no. I'd get a few reasonable ones for a total of about $30 because I won't use them enough to justify the cost of the really good ones and I will probably need more than one.
I just don't get the point of this video. It will be shocking that a $35 wrench is NOT much better than $5-for-three, regardless of which every country made the wrenches. It's like comparing McDonald burger beef to steakhouse Sirloin.
It is not a "logical" video. Most guys just want to see him break a $35 wrench. Then you have a group hoping he supports the expensive one and another group hoping he supports the cheap one. The "test" really doesn't prove a thing as even the cheap wrench went well beyond what it was designed for before it broke. At the end of the day all you really need to know is whether the cheap wrench is adequate. I say this video showed that it is. Is it better than a wrench ten times it's price? I should hope not. What should you buy? Whichever one you want. period.
This man is basically a racist, out to prove that his preconceived notions are correct. So he invents a ludicrously skewed test, comparing an expensive wrech with one that cost **1/21th** as much, but then in conclusion blames the source(chinese vs. american) rather than the cost difference, for the difference in quality.
Qiang Xiong I mean Chinas products suck
Lilspaceman Then don't buy it what's the matter?
meh, trolls will be trolls, James. Don't feed the little punkass basement warrior.
Downvoted for the picture. 100% great video, but don't lie to us with the thumbnails.
Trevor Hoft the thumbnail picture shows a wrench with the handle twisted like a Twizzler making us think he twist one of these up like that but he does not
James F channel is junk now
Did you people really believe that thumbnail? I’ve never watched this guy in my life but I knew it was photoshopped before I even clicked on it
@@ShockMe1994 It's not impossible to twist a wrench like that. Instead of just showing us the real results, he photoshopped something.
Jeremy Gillespie it definetly is it could just be softer metal
18:30 "Wherever we can find joy" *Cat strolls in*
Well I got a painkiller ad...
The US wrench is made out of hardened steel which will break instead of flex. This allows for better grip on bolt heads and etc. The Chinese wrench is made out of softer steel which will flex causing it to slip off and round off bolt heads.
It doesn't really matter cause the bolt/nut metal is softer than both of them
@@laysone346 stop using 'Grade 3' fasteners; despite what you've been told, harder Grade fasteners DO exist.
I've had handles of Chinese wrenches snap cos they were made from cast iron. it looks like the us one had a drop forged hardened steel handle, but the other jaw was cast iron alloy. that's why it snapped. they should have made that part from a chunk of hardened steel and machined it to shape.
where are you finding grade 3?
i literally only see 2, 5 and 8, 5 and 8 on the shelf, 2 in the field
@@laysone346 Why I call them "nut rounders" . . .
The cheap tools are good for loaner tools (hey bro you got a wrench I can borrow)
Or better yet, don't loan tools out.
Somehow I don’t think I’m gonna start buying duplicate tools just to loan to the apprentice.
@@ddesfos lmao you just started right? the apprentice has all the good tools nowadays...
@@linux0808 And don't know how they work or how to use them properly.
Keep a toolbox of Harbor Freight handy for borrowers.
The thing I got out of entire Wranglerstar channel is that... The cheap tools aren't actually that bad, if you're not a woodsman, a mechanic, or an engineer of some sort, there really is no need to buy the expensive one, the cheap one works just fine...
Listen to this bit with your eyes closed....
8:40
😂😂😂
The Golden Spider LMAO
Hahahahah
Hahahaha genius
i am no longer alive...
That kind of adjustable wrench you use were patented by the Swede Johan Petter Johansson in 1891. The English version were a different design.
Jepp! Bahco That's the tool C Lindberg took with him. A Swedish tool for a Swedish guy!
I buy old American made crecent wrench from flee markets and yard sales. It is usually around $5-$10 depending on length. The older tools make me happy when I use them. I let people barrow my Chinese cheap tools not any USA made tools.
The best pair of vise grips I ever had, I literally found on a parking lot as I went to buy bagels in San Antonio. It was an old pair of VICE GRIPS branded pliers made in the USA. Unfortunately, as my luck would have it, that pair went missing after a year or so of hard use where it just didn't fail to do what I needed it to.
you can still get them new ;) i have a set that are 60 years old and just got 2 clones of it new .. 100% identical ;) as you say ; they are the best ;)
greg stevens I have bought new Vise grip pliers that are made in China (Irwin bought the brand name), and they just weren't as good as that pair I found on the ground.
Estate sales have good tool deals, too. Always go to the basement and look for tools; sockets and wrenches first.
"You always come as deep as you can"
Giggles in perversion and agreement.
We are like children. And i see nothing wrong with that.
Caught that one too.
Sameeeee I thought I was the only one
What have I learned? ...never loan this man my tools. ...lol.
australia = shifting spanner
thailand = english spanner
USA = i guess you call them wrenches or crescent wrenches
Why would you assume he would do this to your tools? Don't understand the logic behind your comment...
@@Eric2300jeep The logic is quite simple ...his motto is, "I will break thee."
@@mael-strom9707 That's not his motto...
@@Eric2300jeep It's his aphorism ...lol.
*_Now try to imagine testing a $36 Chinese Wrench_*
We tested a $60 irwin 18" adjustable wrench. It was 28 Rockwell, compared to 36 of U.S. made crescent, and in less then a week the pin for the thumbwheel failed.
how big would that wrench be? probably 30" to get to that price as it would surely be as crappy, just bigger
Mind blown
LOL Haha, you nailed it :D
Ahahahah
My high school woodshop teacher has a sign in his classroom that says "The bitterness of poor quality will last long after the money saved on a cheap tool is forgotten."
That's similar to what my friend who worked in a bicycle shop said:
He said the quality remains long after the price is forgotten.
Very smart!
Kyle J. H. Wise words.
if you bring your car to the mechanic can you tell if he used American tools or a chinnese tool?
One of the principles at the heart of the English Arts & Crafts movement of the late 19th/early 20th century.
I believe this is a quote from William Morris, but it's also been linked to Benjamin Franklin and Henry Royce (of Rolls Royce fame).
Either way, a worthy life lesson.
Entrance of the kitty @ 18:36 is priceless. 'Purr'fectly matched to the narration. ; ] I had to go back and watch again to confirm what I thought I saw. It made me smile. I've been caring for some feral cats at work, starting well over a year ago with the momma of two of them. The brief time spent with them throughout the day is the best part of it. ; ] Pure, simple joy.
Save yourself some time and skip to the 5:30 mark. Remember, you can find lot of great, quality tools at garage sales/yard sales. You get great tools for a few dollars.
I always look for tools with a lifetime guarantee because no matter what shape they're in at the yard sale, they're always new.
It would be a cool idea to have another camera angle facing you when you exerting all you energy on to the I will brake thee
Just so we get a better understanding of how much force each tool is taking
Just an idea
Its invented in 1892 in sweden..
That's why we in Denmark call this for a "swedish wrench"
I found that usually spending the money on quality stuff is the way to go. It works better and never fails plus it is way more fun to use quality tools instead of cheap ones. Great video as always!
I agree on quality tools, they fit and work better. But Snap-On goes way overboard with their prices. Example is car jacks. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack is is a great jack. Is identical to the Snap-On one for hundreds less. My USA Craftsman adjustable wrench is superior to the Snap-On one which has a lot of play in it.
agreed... not to mention when you buy quality stuff, most of it comes with a life time warranty, and is built tough enough to actually last a life time
The pride and joy of my collection is an ancient 10'' AT-110 Crescent manufactured in Jamestown, N.Y. I found it on an old Aboriginal reserve while erecting portable car ports. I pulled it from the ground and used it for the rest of the job. That wrench spent a minimum of 60 years (at least) underground and worked just like new! Thank you for the upload but it always saddens me to see tools destroyed
How deep did you come using that wrench with your erections?
Hahaha, not sure. Ask your mother
Great video as always however the history of this tool isn't quite right. The adjustable spanner/wrench was not invented by the Crescent company in 1917. It was in fact invented by Johan Petter Johansson in Enköping, Sweden. He invented both the plumbers wrench and adjustable wrench in 1890 and obtained patents for both in 1891 & 1892.
From 1892 his tool was mass produced and distributed by the B.A. Hjorth & Company based in Sweden under the brand name Bacho. I'm a long time collector of these amazing tools. I'd love to see a shootout between a Crescent and a Bacho, a true battle of the Titans!
It is spelled Bahco and that is how we call them in Europe , a Bahco wrench.
Reinier Niens Lol! You're absolutely correct! I didn't notice I had misspelled it. Kind of laughable considering I collect their tools! Well spotted! Here in Scotland we typically call them "shifting spanners" or "shifters".
Michael Harden where abouts are you?
Chev Chelios ohhh okay. I'm only twelve so I'm not as knowledgeable as I think. 😀
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To be honest, I always thought that it was called a crescent wrench because it resembles a crescent moon.
same
I watched the whole video and I don't even have wrench
Clown Loads how does one not have a wrench?
Lucas LLorens By not going to the store and buying one ? Pretty simple actually
NOS every human being should have a least a damn crescent wrench
Lucas LLorens I use my exceptionally strong finger grip.
NOS is it powered by nitrous?
The crescent wrench is the duct tape of tools
vicous__diamond not perfect for much but adequate for everything
vicous__diamond i would add channellocks to that list.
I have my grandpa's channel locks, and I bought a brand new pair as well only to find out the jaws on the old ones had just as much life left in them.
MiJaK123
I've got my grandfathers original champion dearment channellocks from 1933 and they still work great, channellock just plain makes a great tool for not a lot of money.
Beg to differ I'm a plumber and use them every single day bahco ones and they have never ever let me down and if had them for 9 years
Man.. I really like this guy. He's smart, charismatic and very likable. I can feel his passion and enthusiasm in almost everything he say's and does. He's very sincere in all things he says. Keep going my friend, you're crafting beautiful content!
Edit: And last but definitely not least, not to forget his humor :-D
8:45 "you always come as deep as you can. whenever an option, come as deep as you can"
Man if only there was a tool that you could use to measure the amount of torque you are putting on each wrench
I have seen a dynameter for testing cables on youtube, that would be very accurate. Of course he would have to get a chinese version and a Made in USA version. and talk about them for two hours.
He cannot configure the extension tube to properly fit the handle of the wrench. It really is unbelieveable it did not slip off when he pulled on it. And, a drive shaft is overkill anyways.
It's only unbelievable to a tool n00b. And, a breaker bar is all about the overkill.
The breaker bars I made are fitted to the handle of the pipe wrench/adjustable wrench they are to be used on.
You could use just a linear spring scale, and multiply by the length of the cheater bar
Whenever I pick up my Klein 12" adjustable spud wrench, it just feels really really good, $20 at an antique store and worth every penny.
"Ya get what you pay for" has never been truer than when you by tools. My advice is if you don't make your living with it and your life doesn't depend on it then go cheap.
By the time the Cresent Co "invented" this it had been in use for 75 years in Europe.
Mass produced since 1892.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner
Americans always thinking they superior
@@arttuleija7867 Or he was just mis-informed?
@@prussianblue3144 It's usually the same
why not use a big torque bar so you can get a specific torque/break number.....better for comparison :-)
Because then he couldn't sell as many S and K tools through his Amazon link
I was concerned about the same thing. It's a shame to destroy good tools without doing a worthy test that you can actually learn from with real numbers and not ish measurements.
I've found high quality vintage tools like Crescent wrenches at a garage sale or Estate sale or auction that have already lasted a lifetime or two for a quarter. I cherish those too! 🙂
* 3am*
why am I watching this
considering i watched this at 3am i guess it's the movie of choise at 3am in the morning
Im watched at 3:00 am and im rewaching it cuz my bro want to see it
5:05am help me dude
im watching at 2:20
Lol same
I had some old Craftsman tools that dad left me. I didn't have room for them in college or my apartments and so I left them in his shed for a long time. They rusted and thus got weaker. After cleaning them up, I heat treated all the hand tools with a parts oven and powdercoated them green to match my Ryobi saws. They are stronger than they have been since new. I'd love to see what kind of force would be required vs the factory tools and modern craftsman tools, but replacing them is impossible.
Edit: I should specify that he died when I was 15 and that I didn't know a damned thing about tools at the time beyond how to use a few. Now I have a small garage of my own and a penchant for keeping tools in great shape.
You need to understand the Chinese attitude to making items for export as opposed to making items for domestic use. Chinese exports ave, until a few months ago, aimed at vacuuming as much premium currency, (£ $ euro), into the state bank's vaults as possible. Make things to sell so cheaply that all but professional buyers will buy the price, not the item. Currency flows in at an alarming speed = mission accomplished. I know many people in Guangdong province involved in export sales and I have learned that the same reasoning can be applied to almost any family of product. That's why it is easy to but a Chinese quartz watch for less than the cost of fitting a new battery to a quartz watch in any UK business serving the general public. Since the Chinese watch may not outlive its battery it represents neither a good deal nor a bad one.
Now go to the maintenance workshop of a Chinese watchmaking factory to see what tools Chinese cutting-edge industries use for their work. Well, they are Chinese, but it's "not (Chinese) as we know it!" If you were a regular user of high-quality Occidental tools, and you had been efficiently blindfolded, you would not notice any difference handling and using high-quality Chinese hand tools compared with high-quality Western hand tools. the tools Chinese manufacturers supply to demanding Chinese manufacturing and service enterprises. There is no expectation that those tools should bring in floods of strong currencies.
Are the Chinese being cynical when they deliberately work to an "irresistible" price for one market and to an "irresistible" quality for another? Yes. Do they care? No. Should they care? Yes. But they do not believe that "you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time", and it is impossible to convince enough Chinese industrial leaders that the "fooling some of the people some of the time" period is bound to end one day, brutally and unannounced, to make any impact on their behaviour. There is a massive Chinese steel-making sector, producing very little special steel, nearly all of which goes to government suppliers and government projects. That would cover their military hardware manufacturers, and the national plans for creating a competitive aero-space sector, a competitive automobile sector, etc.. Like many other steel articles manufactured in China, the presentation will refer to whatever the buyer wants to see marked on a tool and its packaging, not necessarily to what is actually in the tool. Molybdenum? Well, it does say so on the handle of a tool and on its packaging, but that does not guarantee the presence of any particular component of any steel alloy in the tool itself. I can talk the hind legs off a donkey, but I will have to learn how to talk the hind legs off, for example, a deep-water oil-drilling platform if I am to have any chance of convincing watch manufacturers, knife makers, office staple manufacturers and the manufacturers of hand-tools and surgical implements and equipments to stop using the same grade of stainless steel. That spanner/wrench you have just ordered may be made of the same steel as the back plate of your new watch, and, until Western buyers can resist goods that can be delivered to them for less than the manufacturing cost, sometimes less than one-tenth of the manufacturing cost, of their Western equivalents there is very little chance of changing the Chinese industrial culture, where pragmatism is pushed to its ridiculous extreme. One day I will get one Chinese industrial to stop saying "They want to buy, we want to sell, so where is the problem?", but I am not holding my breath.
This is a very interesting and considered commentary on the production of mega-cheap Chinese export products.
Do Chinese care about only making top quality products? No, they don't care. In the future, I suppose they will still make same products from 1 dollar range to 1,000 dollars range in business if anyone requests. Beside, most of 1 dollar Chinese stuff are imported by American business men. American business men import Chinese products to sell that is not about nation glory, it is only about money.
Harbor Freight has several different quality levels of hand tools. Their "professional grade" tools get good reviews when compared to Snap On, Matco, etc. Seems the Chinese tool manufacturers are no longer going after only the foreign budget tool buyer.
I know many people from GZ and was there many years ago.. and the core problem with chinese, they can never do something correct, they always seem to have mistakes or make stupid mistakes and not professional enough.......... because they want money fast and living in the moment and do not care about tomorrow or quality. This is not china themselves, fully to blame it was the opportunity which the western bankers and technocrats which allowed china to open and flood the markets to other countries mainly attacking the western markets.
Voy Cok I mean we'll make top quality if people can afford it first 🤷🏻♂️
Try a wrench from Germany as well... against the American one...
Germany will win, i love American tools but the steel in german tools is superb
Miendust or a Swedish against a German one. More interesting I would say!
Knipex tools are awesome. That said, I'd put my 18" Crescent up against anything. I've used it everyday for 20 years, with as much as 6' of pipe on it. U.S. CrVa steel is pretty damn good. Most Chicom tools are made of chewy, soft mystery steel. Even expensive Chicom "irwin" branded adjustable wrench tested only 28 Rockwell. Soft enough to easily deform under normal use.
Believe it or not, the best tools we have are from West-Germany, 40 years old and still beats new tools...
some exmaples of good german tools pls
For 99% of people the cheap one is more than enough.
Cheap ones is. Ya that's how grammar works
In this specific circumstance it appeared the only real advantage of the better quality tool was when they were abused in such a way that you'd never even choose to abuse your good tool anyway so you'd likely never see that extra utility out of it. That said I'd still say the point stands that you should always go as quality as your budget will allow because you are likely to get more use over time out of it.
TheSwanster says the guy starting a sentance with "ya"
TheSwanster nope, but is the way predict likes to work! Ya hear me?
Minus everyone who builds stuff professionally... which makes up much more than 1%.
The biggest test is how far I can throw them when they slip off and I bust my hand up
This variant is a Swedish invention patented in Sweden 1892 by inventor Johan Petter "JP" Johansson. He joined a man named Berndt August Hjorth and then formed the company (B)erndt (A)ugust (H)jort & (CO) BAHCO
Well i learned that when i broke the U.S.A. made wrench i don't have a spare wrench... If you break a chinese made wrench you will still have 2 more spares to continue your work😂
take it back U.S. will replace for free and you have 3 broken Chinese wrenches
Mark Heckman i'm not from the U.S.... for the price of shipping it back to U.S. I could buy 3 more sets of the crescent wrenches from china.
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blue haze- chinese wrenches aren't crescent wrenches- theyre Ho Chi Min wrenches.
land are you trying to be funny? Ho chi minh is in vietnam dummy!
Johan Petter Johansson Invented the first adjustable WRENCH 1892 and he is from Sweden.
Rightstuff
English engineer Richard Clyburn is credited with inventing an adjustable spanner in 1842
Well, the first patent for an adjustable wrench was allready 1840 by the brittish Joseph Stubs.
Matthew Hammant that was very different from the design we still us3. Which is the bacho design by johansson
@@matthewhammant7001 Is not the same one as we all use today.
“Come deep as you can”
Very wise words!
I'm pretty okay with buying marked up items when they're made in the USA because I like to support our own work force if I can help it. I usually steer away from "designed in USA, assembled in china" bullshit too. So in this case i'd choose the way more expensive wrench not even just for quality reasons, but for economic ones.
man i'm 2 early it's only 360p. How about a $20 Chinese vs a $20 US tool?
If they're the same price quite a few of us will always buy the US made tool.
I'd agree, the Chinese tool would likely be a couple dollars cheaper, unless it was made by Apex. But there are really good Chinese tools out there now.
What he failed to test is a middle-range foreign-made wrench, such as a Craftsman / Stanley / Irwin / Dewalt / Crescent / Husky (HomeDepot) / Kobalt (Lowe's), which is a classic Wranglerstar bumble, because ironically one of those is what most of us have.
Andy1dude that's so true
m2hmghb you are assuming we all live in north America. For me, living in Western Australia that $35 American made wrench could be $100+ and i could buy any number of asian or european quality brands for the same price or substantially less. The buy homegrown stuff doesn't apply because i am not American, the warranty ( if there is one out of the US) is no different to any other brand but it comes from further away so will take longer. The further from the US you go the less you find the quality is better, and more just an extra dot point to add $30 on the price tag
While the first iteration of this spanner was originally invented in 1842 by British engineer Richard Clyburn, today’s adjustable wrench, the ‘Swedish Key’, is attributed to Johan Petter Johansson, a Swedish inventor who improved upon Clyburn’s original concept and patented it in 1891.
well said Sir!!
In France we call it a "clé anglaise" that mean British, not swedish. So French people were fairly with English a least one time! Lol
Straight outta Wikipedia
Greetings from Sweden! 1891 A swedish fellow named Johan Petter Johansson pat. date for one of his inventions “monkey rench” adjustable spanner 🔧 He had 110 pat. Cressent is a bicycle over here 😀
You do realise you just demonstrated how useless the Snapon vice is?
Steve Bettany vise
This isn't a US vs UK spelling issue, this is a France vs England issue, and it seems in *both* countries, *both* spellings are valid. Although I'm sure in different regions of each country, different ones are preferred. So basically, use whatever one you prefer, because this argument pre-dates the US by a few hundred years. Heck it predates modern English.
Sutliff01 lol
I'm just grateful that none of the tests involved aluminium.
Twenty Rothmans the best film of 1980 was Saturday night fever lol
S-K filleted the edge of the 1/2" bar and got the bolt to skip in a vice. 5/5 would buy.
Polish Asparagus my S-K adjustable is one of my favorite, most used I have
More accurately the $35 wrench was better than the $5 wrench.
You should try a $35 USA wrench vs. a $35 Chinese wrench and see what happens.
The Chinese $35 wrench will beat the pants off the USA one.
Have a look at Fluke multimeters for an example of this. Compare the $100 Chinese market model to the $100 American market model (if you can even find one).
There's no such thing as a $35 Chinese wrench.
More accurately he compared a $35 vs $1.66 ($5/3) crescent wrench. So for the same price that's 1 USA vs 21 Chinese wrenches. Worst an 8" Snap On wrench costs a whacky $72.50 store.snapon.com/Flank-Drive-174-Plus-Adjustable-Cushion-Handle-8-Adjustable-Wrench-P884284.aspx
The point is whether or not you want to spend more money on the American made wrench compared to the cheap Chinese wrench, its obvious the more expensive one is more likely to be a better product but the point of the video is to see if it's worth the extra money to someone who is looking for a wrench.
Rubberneck Rides Dude...you've got no clue do you. THere's no chinese wrenches that cost even more then $10(in china)... exept really big pipe wrenches. THis is not a simple math question... Stop acting like you are smarter to choose the $5 one. It's like everything ever get produced... You get what you pay for. If china can come up with a wrench that would compare to a $35 one, why would they price it at $5? It's so funny that I'm from china and I would buy better quality tools for more money, even if I can't afford tools made in Japan, USA, Germany... I would get a taiwaness one. A chinese tool is my last option...I dont have to tell you how many times Ive broken cheap chinese wrenches for normal around the house uses.
Just bought an entire tool kit made by crescent and I don’t even know where they were made but I’ve never been impressed by the thoughtfulness and neatness of just simple tools, and I’ve never been happier
You did make a good point - adjustable wrenches are good for boat anchors - no professional technician would consider using those to do their job - maybe for a paper wight.... I've been turning wrenches for 30 + years and never found a need for one - use the right tool for the right job!
you said it all right there. i'm not a professional by any means, but i can fix just about anything i tackle. if i don't know how, usually in a couple hours, i'll have a google and youtube masters degree on how to fix it. in 40 years, i've discovered one thing for sure..... anything that you can use an adjustable wrench on.... that cheap one will be fine, because it should stay in the tool box while you use the proper tool.
Automotive techs are actually the minority, many many other types of techs out there that find adjustable wrenches are the best tool for the job.
the Chinese Wrench seems to have more flexibility to it where as the other wrench has no give so once you hit the point of breaking the metal will just snap where as the Chinese wrench had the inside of the Teeth chewed away under the pressure
the Chinese wrench has slightly less sheering strength and honestly if your going to need to put that much leverage behind a wrench your probably using a full size torque wrench
for general every day use just go with the Chinese Wrench
Another option would be to spend $5 extra dollars and get an even nicer Chinese-made wrench from a major brand, which is likely even far more durable, likely close to as good as the SK wrench. I really feel like not testing a higher-end but cheaper Chinese tool vs the SK one is a huge miss, I mean how much more durable is a Dewalt adjustable wrench (at less than half the cost) vs the SK tool? A lot of folks buy the cheapest products for one-time use or to round out a set, where the cheapest option works just fine (and if it doesn't you just return/exchange it), but most DIY folks and even a lot of pros will buy the mid-range option because the quality/price is best. Nothing wrong with splurging if it's a tool you abuse multiple times a day, but that probably won't be the case for most even pros, they're going to need multiple wrenches for various sizes (even adjustable) or they're likely going with a socket or fixed wrench, in which case buying the highest-end option is going to put a serious dent in a pocketbook.
silencesummer This is why he should have tested different quality wrenches. It would have made more sense to label the video as low quality vs high quality since there are low quality American made wrenches. I always buy mid range tools because I tend to lose tools in the field. Mid range is the best way to go if you use tools on a daily basis. I've never had a problem with them and, like you said, don't put a dent on the pocketbook.
It is mostly about the steel, the chineese one is made of some alloy while the other one is made from harder tool steel.
"since there are low quality American made wrenches"
Where? Maybe some NOS Craftsman, but Sears is just about out of business.
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You should test a harbor freight welder vs yours
Matthew. Rizzi I have used a harbor freight stick welder for a long time it isn't the best but It is about how much you want to put up with it. I would not trade it for my tombstone Lincoln welder. My favorite part is the warranty every 15 months or if it breaks no questions asked I get a new one.
UA-cam recommendation : Wanna see some twisted wrench?
Not wrong UA-cam, not wrong
As a retired engineer i have never rated S & K Shifters always used the Best BAHCO..
BAHCO That's the tool C Lindberg took with him. A Swedish tool for a Swedish guy!
Now I want to see the video comparing the $35 chinese made wrench with the $35 USA made wrench...
There is no such thing as a $35 Chinese wrench.
Probably it'd be made of Chinese gold.
The chinese put people in space, I think they can make a good wrench too if they want.
The $35 Chinese will just be a $4.95 disguised as a Craftsman
Chances are the actual Craftsman is made in China...
*There are only a few companies left in the USA that make adjustable wrenches. The SK Branded one shown here is made by Western Forge. Western forge also makes Craftsman, Proto, MAC, and Matco adjustables. Very good quality steel. The best value is by far the Craftsman three pack with different sizes.*
BroadcastBuddy why is all text bold
BECAUSE HE's BROADCASTING!
Best advice of the video "come as deep as you can." Useful in multiple situations.
In the UK I don't remember anyone calling it a Crescent wrench as it's just an adjustable spanner.
Thelondonbadger Successful marketing.
we call them shifters
This tool's Turkish name is "ingiliz anahtari" which means 'British key'
Michael Parker here we called french key.
That's quite odd. We call them wackadoodles where I'm from. They're great for removing stubborn quozzlies on the old bargain carts. I just assumed that everyone around the globe called them wackadoodles. Oh well, carry over and pip pip felitz!
No, they were not invented in 1917 by an american company. They were invented in Sweden in 1892 by Johan Petter Johansson...
Fredrik Nyman
Richard Clyburn, England, 1842
Richard Clyburn invented what is called an "english key". An adjustable wrench, true. But the model shown in the video was invented by JP Johansson.
Folsomia I'm not sure if it can be called an "invention" as, in my knowledge, he received a patent to modify the previously invented wrench/key. Reply if I'm not right, please.
@@folsomia5993 That is correct! :)
Crecent wrench? Never heard of! That is a swedish patented thing invented and patented in that shape in 1892... Made by Johan Petter Johansson, in his company Enköpings Mekaniska Verkstad... That is now known as Bacho!
Almost right, it´s Bahco, not Bacho!
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18:36 "Wherever we can find joy".. ENTER kitty cat :)
Everything he says goes for someone that uses their tools to make money. For me who just need tools to occasionally fix something I'll stick with the 5 for 3 deal.
Yes!! Everyone should START with cheap tools. If they never break then you never even needed to spend those 500% extra money for the quality.
It's WHEN THINGS BREAK that you invest in quality. That's when you know it's worth it for the work you personally do.
A complete toolbox and some machines for your average garage can cost 1000s of $. Better to spend 2000$ than 10000$, and then have 8000$ saved for your car/projects.
If you START with quality tools, you won't ENJOY it more because you don't know how crappy a cheap tool would have been. So again - START with cheap tools.
Just don't go "poisonous plastic, child-labor, slavery-manufactured" kind of cheap. Buy the cheapest tools from a reputable brand or store.
// , Just make sure that you're not fixing something expensive. Sometimes the price one pays for cheap tools is the damage they can do to what I'm using those tools to repair. I've learned some very difficult lessons from this that nearly killed me.
Well this is what I do on my job, if I'm going to use a tool very often I get a good one, craftsman, matco, snap on, etc. But if I'm going to use one tool just one or 2 times I get the cheaper
Mark, you have no idea. Those wrenches (adjustable open end wrench) would get you fired at big time auto repair places or on Power Plants, Refinery, Chemical Plant construction sites. Ran a few off myself. One thing we would do when someone would come to hire-out with us is to look at their tools. Anyone with one of those wrenches were directed to our competition hiring office/site and told to get rid of the"Cresent Wrench"; that way our competition would be hiring a slug and giving us more advantage. Yeah, just leave that tool under the sink at home, in the tractor tool box or in the barn. Those damn wrenches have even got entire companies run of a project by the customers Chief Inspector or QA/QC Manager.
@@jimwatts7489 yep
To be honest, you could get by with the cheap one without problems
Stoopingcrane it also depends on if you push the envelope. If you're using a 6 inch crescent wrench because that's what you happened to have but it's doing the job a much bigger tool ought to be doing then you'd better hope it's a good one. I always buy quality small tools, especially adjustable wrenches, for this reason.
Made in USA I've had good success with the pliers wrench from Knipex. It never slips without warning. The harder you turn, the tighter it grips plus there's 10:1 leverage advantage squeezing the handles. Still, there is a point where the nut will force the jaws open against your grip, but you can feel the handles parting and either grip harder or back off without rounding the fastener. I've had these deform fasteners by crushing them but I've never had them round one off.
I do believe that this wrench is actually a swedish invention? The famous "Bacho" company still makes the very ultimate version, in many sizes!
its BAHCO www.zoro.com/bahco-adj-wrench-8-1-2532-cap-black-9031rus/i/G4143721/?msclkid=c2e7b8c0272e169e6239e350122c0745&RLSA_PLA_Site%20Visitors&Hand%20Tools&gclid=COn3iOfSpN0CFQe8swodFxkDxQ&gclsrc=ds
they are now part of Snap-On
and yes they are among the finest Swedish made products
If a cresent wrench is turned in the opposite direction as advised in the video, it will stress the movable, weaker jaw far less, due to the lack of leverage of the resistance of the bolt being turned. The video clearly shows that. I suggest testing another wrench in the opposite direction to determine the difference in strength.
A real Bahco vs your american wrench would be interesting. And with proper tourque measurements
Yes, please. And as people have mentioned, the Snap-On vise is really a Wilton, because Snap-On owns Wilton; Snap-On also owns Bahco.
I love these test videos. You should try out a knipex pliers wrench. First one I bought was hard to drop 50$ on a wrench. Ended up replacing all my crescent wrenches with them. I like all of knipex tools but I don't think I can justify paying that much more on their other wrenches but the cobras and pliers wrench are the two worth it.
Chris Fox you think it was hard to drop $50 bucks on one?? I bet yours is big enough to be frequently useful. 😁 I dropped $58 on the little "86 05 150" TSA compliant sized one for my laptop bag, for those rare occasions I need a wrench on the go. That was hard to justify to myself, but I done it.
Hah, I just made a similar comment.
The Knipex 86 line are just superior to adjustable spanners in every way (expensive though).
I'm not sure how well they'll stand up to being reefed on with a large breaker bar, as generally if you need that much torque you'd be using a different tool in the first place, but for their intended use they're superior to any regular adjustable.
...And yes, their pump pliers are better than any others I've come across as well.
I am just not a fan of the 86 line. I have plenty of other Knipex tools, and I love them all... except for the pliers wrench. I've been carrying the cobras and alligators (their slip joint pliers) for a 10+ years now, and they are very impressive, but when it's time to break a hex loose I still want a wrench.
Chris Fox, based on your enthusiasm for the Knipex pliers wrench i looked up a video on it and I am very impressed. My beloved Channel Locks may have to move over.
I have 86 05 180 pliers wrench, an 87 02 250 cobra, and a combo set of mini 86 03 150 pliers wrench and 87 01 125 cobras in a tough nylon pouch. And a lot of other Knipex tools. The pliers wrench style is unbeatable.
What about the corkscrews in the thumbnail
Daniel Bartley that's what i was thinking
Same
The little things that bring me joy... finding animals in videos! Kitty 18:35 20:09
You come as deep as tou can not always an option but when it is you come as deep as you can... 😂
Van you please do a video with a German made wrench from the brand Gedore? Ik bet the quality is even better.
Mail him one. He will test it.
Go to pawn shop. Get $35 wrench for $2.
Haven't been to a pawn shop where their items weren't priced almost the same as new or more.
Go to a pawn shop and get a $35 wrench for $37.
I go to pawn shop and ask for $5 wench and get slap in face. :(
I went to a pawn shop the other day and got an inspection camera brand new for $20 when it was for sale there for $25.95. And I picked up a Skilz palm sander brand new with every attachment, never used for $25 and they were selling it for $35. I Bartered with the guy whereas if I bought both I asked the guy if I can get a good deal. So he gave me a really good deal.😁😁😁
I have all snap-on, all from pawnshops, right up to monsters for my back-hoe, maximum 25% of normal price. NONE have broken.
Its litrally 3.28 am .. i have an exam at 9 am ... Whf im i doing here ...🤦 I dont evan use wrench...
Edit ... Now its 3.51 urrghhhhhhhh
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How was the exam?
Dido
we need to know if you passed at least
The crescent wrench was invented in1892 by the
Swede Johan Petter Johansson one of the founder of Bacho
Why did youtube recommend this to me... and why am I watching it with such interest.
Same
I have been working on just about anything for 40 years and I will say this,ANY tool that is abused will break, I have spent more on stitches and burns than replacing broken tools, all mechanics learn that the right tool and used proper will get a mechanic further, A cresent wrench is a tool that has so many different uses and please understand that the tool trucks charge big money for tools because of the truck and truck costs and then the driver wages, when you buy the popular tools it is a status thing, most of the tools on the truck are no better than the tools that can be had from places like harbor freight, get the right tool for the job and use your head to do it right and you have made more money instead of making them big payments,
Yep....and probably never used a 3/4 inch SK ratchet set. I once had TWO cheater bars hooked onto the Tbar of a SK socket ,with a 24 inch extension going into the internals of a skid loader . I was standing on a 4 foot cheater bar while my helper used a 3 foot cheater bar. I estimate I used about 1200 foot pounds removing a lock tited axle bolt which I could not heat to weaken.
a smart mechanic buys the tools he needs. sometimes these come from the truck. sometimes they do not.
I've never had anything, not one dang thing from Harbor Freight last. Their tools have nearly cost me my life and or limbs more times then I'd like to admit. Rule of thumb, if the tool isn't from U.S.A., it will cause you problems or even kill you. Facts are that good mechanics use good tools, it doesn't mean they're pritty tools or brand new Snap-on, it just means their American tools made with American materials.
Never buy tools from a country that eats cats and dogs unless you absolutely have to. Thanks in advance.
gonna call bullshit on that one. plenty of tools will do ya just fine no matter where they're made. taiwanese sockets (impact or chrome) are just fine. snap-on impact sockets are only good for a couple years before they're wallered out so bad they won't fit the anvil, and no they won't be warrantied.
if there's a tool i only use once or twice a year, chances are i'm not going to pick it up off the truck. find a decent quality one that fits your wallet and go for it. preferably it's from a country that has some sort of human rights recognition, but that's politics and not tools. yeah, a $2 wrench from good old commie china is garbage, but there are decent options out there.
nice tools are nice. i get a funny feeling in the pants every time i drop cash on the truck, but it IS NOT a requirement for everything.
tr0n well yeah, some things do make logistic sense up to a point, even still though I've had really bad luck with communist chrome but a spare set of sockets is never a bad idea. When I was in school, cheap tools were all I could afford, I've burnt through every wrench and socket from thoes days since with many lessons learned. I'm more or less speaking of weight-bearing tools like stands, jacks, big wrenches and things of the like, that have made the job a few too many times dangerous.
My instructors used to collect any non American tools and put em in the scrap cars to go to the crusher lol, they weren't allowed because they caused so many problems.
I can't rely on communist tools, they just don't work for me in my 13 years as a certified mechanic. They always make things worse. If I didn't use em all the time it might be a different story I guess but they still eat cats and dogs....
You know I came to this video to be entertained, and I was. I was not, however; thinking I’d learn a life lesson at the end.
You put the rational behind spending lots of money on things into perspective for me.
Pay me know or pay me later, was so true.
I just bought a Trijicon RMR for my new Glock and it killed me to spend that kind of money on that optic, but you’re so spot on about taking care of things that mean so much to you as opposed to cheap tools.
Thank you for that. I really learned something from this video.
And long time subscriber of your channel.