This is my 2 year olds favourite video. He is obsessed by impact drivers. He is also showing an interest in right angle drills. He knows all the brands
Far and away the best Impact Driver "shootout" I've seen. No fluffery, no showmanship guff... just straight talking, and giving each driver what looked like a fair crack. I was interested in the DeWalt before watching. Now I'm buying the DeWalt! Like some of the other commentors, for a Grand Finale I would have liked to have seen the DeWalt finish out the screws that never got to 100%. If you still have that block of oak around, how about making that quick video?
I do love my Makita set, I used to be DeWalt, it aged like fine wine! Decided to try out Makita, best investment yet! Treated myself to a impact driver, drill, jigsaw and a circular saw.
I found a Makita impact that had been left on a building roof for 10+ years.. it had clearly seen lots of wether (Rust all over) and sure enough it worked I didn’t even have to get a new battery. The only thing I had to do was un seize the chuck and I’m still using it to this day!
I found a makita brushless drill in a skip 2 months ago. Full of plasterboard dust. I stripped it and cleaned it and it works and I am also using it. It now is my go to drill as it is my lightest. I haven't had to charge it once since.
Makitas are crap,no strength despite are same torque with some DeWalt. Not enough speed,not energy sufficient,not powerful. Gears inside like made of brass. So many models you don't know what is what,only to make noise.
@Bob Cooper I got one of Dewalt’s right angle drills on the 20v XR5 platform for some deck work. Holy crap, that thing will run a spade bit through a treated 4x4 like nothing is there. My son kept pestering me to drill a hole so I gave him a shot. It almost threw him like a sack of potatoes.
I’m a commercial carpenter and the 20v max xr impact is essentially my right hand. I’ve dropped it from five stories up and it still worked fine didn’t break anything on the tool itself just bent the crap out of the shaft I was using and battery was a little lose but that’s it. Between shear power and toughness alone, I wouldn’t buy anything else
MrIcewing Heck yah!!! That would have been a great test for that Dealt. Would go out and buy the D after that no matter which other brand I already owned 😉
I have been running the same exact Bosch Impact as you are reviewing and I’m beyond impressed by it. Had many other brands and nothing that I have ever owned comes close to its sheer capabilities and sheer power.
Apprentice had this Bosch impact driver, we thought it was good for a while too. He dropped it off a ladder, maybe 1.5-2m high and it snapped on the handle near the battery... Having run Milwaukee and DeWalt, we were super unimpressed by the structural strength of the Bosch.
I'm mighty impressed with the makita impact driver I bought 5 yrs ago. Also did an accidental drop test, 2.5m straight down onto concrete.... the battery popped off, it's still fine.
I know one thing. My makita is 6 years old and still going strong. I'm a Carpenter and have put it through the ringer. Now it's not as powerful as some of the other brands but not less enough to make a difference. Driving screws is one thing but i want my tools to last and these tests can't show that. I've seen them all come on the job and go but my makita impact driver is still going hard. I think thats far more important
Pretty much the same for me with the makita. I've been using mine, without any trouble at all, for years. I've seen dozens of guys show up with new impacts on jobsites only to be replaced by something else fairly quick. Dewalt is known to work great when new, but they seem to develop the most problems too. I'll take the reliability of the Makita...
I love my Makita but the other day I was using it to drive screws into drywall and it started smoking on me which is the reason why I even started watching this video. I'm so surprised and was shocked to see that happened but I always really loved my Makita and am taking second thoughts about it. Was it the Makita or would they all have done the same thing? I gave it a rest and it still worked fine after but my heart dropped when I noticed that happening!
@@moysesgaray8410 I've put mine through hell and never had an issue. I think yours may have just been a rare case. As long as it was the trade quality makita not the generic DIY. Their trade tools are awesome.
@Jay Bee the tafe i went to to get my trade used dewalt, they had a deal with the company. My teachers and the students hated them. They were always getting replaced or broken. A lot of us used our own tools instead as they were no good. They may be better these days but it will take a long time for me to forget that. I don't care about the minor power bonus or battery life. I care about reliability and longevity
I’m glad you are mentioning material consistency. I watch a lot of tool duel videos and such but i am always thinking not only about consistency in material, but also with consistency between operators and left or right hand etc. the way screws in wood can effect the surrounding wood and so on. I think you guys on UA-cam need to use plexiglass or hard plastic, something man made like those materials, something that doesn’t have such variation as wood and not porous like concrete.
Last test should have been a follow up with the Dewalt on all the screws that weren't driven in all the way. Bet the Dewalt company would have liked to have seen that. Thanks for the review. I'm going with the Dewalt.
SY the dewalt would not have drove it all the way in where the makita was wood there is a hell of a lot harder where it’s dark at if u have ever split wood you will know this and I have split mine and everyone else’s share in my life
You’re right it wasn’t set in max. Sadly this guy is so rammy he doesn’t even pay attention to what he’s doing. lol lol lol plus if you would have finished the rest of the screws with the DeWalt, it would have been junk
I have been talking to an engineer friend of mine who has offered up a theory on why the fluid drives performed so well in this test and punched well above their weight. He says that there is a certain amount of torsion in the bolts and the longer they are the more this is the case. If you hit the head you get twisting along the shank and that doesn't produce as much movement in the thread as a more sustained pushing action. Paradoxically the extra energy is, almost, counterproductive unless it is enough to produce the torsion, and some, which is what the DeWalt and Metabo did. He went on to say that there is the torsion moment of inertia and the polar moment. I don't pretend to understand this but I like the idea that sometimes the little guy wins the fight. Cleary all these bolts are struggling at the point where they run out of thread. As I said the force to overcome this is huge and we did snap the head of a bolt trying to drive it further with the DeWalt. Why did the video editor drop that clip?
Hi was right. Thats why its not good compare fastest mode. Because its diffrent torque. Same with drill there are 2speeds 1 for 70nM 2 for 50nm. Speed 2less torque but faster work. When you use blue. Mode. Its possible that its more speed and less torque. Ned to see in manual. What speed on what torque working.
The way an impact driver works is that the faster the hammer hits the anvil in rotation the more torque you get. It is like hitting a spanner with a hammer to tighten a nut. A drill works in a completely different way and the torque is in the gearbox and motor combination.
What are you saying ok. Thats what told to us its true. But i got on my own with that. Many times. I will tel l you when its filed. Take screw driver with 70nm. Torque. And impact 180nm. Then drill in to concrete hole 5.5 and use screws (special screw drill straight to concrete)with T20 or T25 head. 20 cm long. You will see how torque 180 nm cant move screw in to concrete. And screw driver can do it with 50 nm. In my view point as more faster impact realise power, the les torque it reaching to turn screw. To understand that use Ridgid oil Pulse impact. You will feel the diferent on your hand. Impact just hamering. Oil pulse more turning. www.familyhandyman.com/masonry/concrete-repair/drilling-concrete-and-installing-fasteners/view-all/
I have a hard time believing Bosch did that bad. I actually switched to Bosch from my dewalt set I had. And in my personal experience the Bosch out preformed dewalt. The 4ah battery for Bosch lasted twice as long as the dewalt 5ah battery as well. Side note, after 3 years both of the Bosch batteries are as strong as the day I bought them. My coworker has replaced 4 batteries since that time. Food for thought.
It is indeed to the old 18650 batteries they used. The new procore 21700 are absolute monsters. I drive 8" timberlok lag screws into oak rough boards to tie in the new replaced wall section to the old frame and my freak drove one through the timber board. The threads of the timberlok were protruding from the rough lumber. It was a no, no, but I wanted to know.
I have every ty0e of battery they have released, including the wireless charging and I have never had one go down. Some are over a decade old and I am a general contractor in Northern Canada. Very good tools in difficult circumstances, that's why I keep buying them
Same hated my dewalts got Bosch for the same reason better batteries and the tools do not die my two employees have dewalt and Milwaukee and they have to have 2x the batteries to finish the work day, depends on what we are hammering in depends on what ones better I can drive in tapcons they can’t but theirs perform better in wood, that also have had to replace theirs and I have not so to each his own.
had a Bosch for years, it's been hammered and is as good as it was when I first got it. I do a lot of unistrut construction. Used it recently to put 25mm woodbits through timber. It changed my working life.
Everything makita feels like it grew in your hand. That for me is enough. Every now and then a brand outperforms them in a certain way on a certain product. But then the year after they allways drop something to top that. Never break just a joy to use.
what would have been nice to see was the 100 per centers finish the screws the others left, just in case they hit a knot or metal (you never know enough metal was fired around the wars}
Owned 3 dewalt drill in my life all have failed within 6months to a year. I have had a Milwaukee brushless now for almost 2 years it's still working almost like day 1.
I have a Makita impact for at least 2 years now. It has done all my jobs well so far. I would like to have adjustable torque because some jobs, its too much and it is very loud. I have Dewalt 20V batteries, so I I bought the Dewalt DCF887 new on eBay for $80. We'll see how it holds up.
Hilti impact is the driver I use daily. Had the makita and the battery didnt have the staying strength, dewalt I found was temperamental. Although I used to be a makita die hard and they used to fill my van.. ...just found hilti tools are more durable. Vids are great 👍
MadMetalManiac74 maybe it does but we only did screw in tests which mine beat them all. I don’t really use impacts anymore though. Festool is the only way.
I’m a DeWalt user myself, although I had tools of most brands through the years. What I noticed with DeWalt though is that the housing has a tendency to split lenghtwise.
I sure with ya there. My company has roughly 500 Milwaukee tools. Not only do they last through major abuse but they always stand behind warranty. We had DeWalt, not a chance do they last as long. I’m not talking alot a couple tools U guys have have in your garage. I’m talking hundreds and hundred for years and years
When I was working as a kitchen fitter I loved my 10.8v DeWalt, enough grunt to do everything unwanted plus light weight so no tired arms. My original 14v DeWalt, now 15 years old are still going strong, though I am on a new set of batteries
Given the inconsistent density of wood from spot to spot, it may be nice to drive fasteners through something else next time. Perhaps 6 or 8 engineered deck boards sandwiched together? It would also be interesting to take the highest torque DeWalt and finish the rest of those lag screws that the others failed to drive. Thanks for posting a most interesting match up. Looking forward to more. Cheers!
My. DeWalt set was stolen and I needed a new one. I went to the local lumber yard and hardware store. They had a sale going on the Milwaukee still set so I went ahead and bought it. I'm glad I did because now I won't buy anything but Milwaukee....
Old video I know but still worth a comment, I use the dewalt 887 and it’s a great tool, well balanced with the best grip in my opinion, but driving 180mm timber coach screws it struggles after 3 or 4, not surprising as it’s not built for that sort of graft, so I have got the metabo 400 1/2” wrench and a 1/2” - 1/4” Adapter and it drives all day no issue, not as comfortable as the dewalt but for proper heavy duty the metabo is a winner
Milwaukee should have been on par with Dewalt if you used the model that competes with the dewalt brushless impact drivers such as the 887. I'm a dewalt guy and I know Milwaukee is pretty Damn good.
Whistle this comparison was great, I found myself wondering if certain area's of that oak timber might have been a lot tougher to get through than others. Once the screws stalled with the weaker models it would have been a real clincher at the end to have gone back with say the Dewalt to see if it powered the screw up to the hilt with ease. Well done Roger.
I have an Ebauer impact driver and I love it. Really light but never has any problems . I really work it hard and I prefer it to any other I have used on jobs.
A couple seconds of speed or a hair extra power is nice and all, but you have to balance it against noise, feel, and battery efficiency. And when it comes to those, the Makita oil drive is the clear choice. It's feather light, it's super quiet, it lasts forever, and the battery efficiency can't be beat
It is easy to see that where the wood is marked "BOS," the oak has darker and denser figure. 15:03 The screw being driven by the Hitachi quickly swings over to an inclined angle, seeming to avoid denser, to seek weaker wood. Also, the "blowback" 15:27 is suspicious, both because it implies a denser wood that doesn't allow compressed gases (e.g. air, water vapor) to penetrate into the wood away from the hole, and that hole was the only hole to display that behavior (of the holes where the screw was backed out). It is clear that the idea that a long chunk of oak will not have widely varying local properties is not tenable.
I’m a carpenter - Makita for me. Reliable/ergonomical/good batteries/range of quality tools. -30 to 40 , rain and snow. Makita/dewalt and Milwaukee are basically any tradesmans choice of tools. Plumbers like ridgid.
The best thing about this presentation is that we are told very quickly at the beginning which one is coming out on top so you don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want to, but I did.
You're supposed to test sh!t xD otherwise all you have to go on is the marketing BS of a company that is benefiting from selling you something. Independent testing is very necessary
As a carpenter working with hard Australian timbers, I’ve burnt out makita Panasonic, Milwaukee and the latest dewalt impact driver, at moment I use a Hilti and it’s light and powerful. Note thou Milwaukee is brushless and red lithium and lasted 6 months The panosonic lasted a year Dewalt lasted two years Makita has for 4 years never died but the batteries just stop working randomly. Now Hilti is a year in no issues but it’s early days
It's the platform you run and personal preference that matters most of all. I run a surge because I like how quiet it is. Installed rear supports for drawer slides in a narrow cabinet yesterday and there was no harsh noise echoing to my ears. Not a big deal if you don't use one all the time though. But I do.
I find it odd my two year old Bosch impact has been out preforming the counterparts on job sites running in tap cons and I’m the only one that’s yet to replace mine.
Goodness!!! My little 9.6volt AEG drill/driver of about 15 years ago would snap bolts, rather than "give up"! I just am amazed at these weak results in general!
I've been on the Hitachi battery platform for a few years now and cannot fault them however it does appear that they are always claiming to be the 'best in class' yet never really performing in these tests! Seen a lot of negative comments about Hitachi of late and can't see how making big claims and not being able to match them will help the image! Shame as for the price they are good tools
Matthew Judd Their battery jailers are pretty boss though. I'm not big on battery tools but I run Hitachi just cause of the nailers, and the triple hammer driver is pretty good too. Everything else I use corded tools in a mix of brands. Nobody makes the best of everything, unfortunately. Ok, maybe Hilti does.
I'm not sure the impact he's using isn't faulty. Only reason I say this is I've driven larger screws into hardwood with the triple hammer and although it didn't like it, it buried them.
luke marcus-embleton i think he does not like hitachi i remember him saying hitachi sent him a drill that was not factory bet if it was a milwaukee or dewalt it wouldnt of been questioned
can these battery tools used in drilling the wall of bricks. can they use only for single house where we may need once in three In three month time ? please guide me
That is nonsense. We just did the test without fear of favour. I have no skin in the game. I have nothing against Hitachi, even though they are now deceased.
Been running 12v Dewalt for 13 years no problem. For me modulation is the true test of an Impact driver. How slow can it go without wrecking your screw head or work. They can all slam screws in rapidly but not all can do it slowly...
It would have been interesting to see if any of the drills that completed the task would also have driven in those that failed, this would also show whether that spot had a knot or other obstruction.
The Milwaukee M18 FID, is automatically delivered with a 5amp or in 0-version. In this video he's using 4am for Milwaukee and 5am for other brands. Losing a bit newton and changing the result of real facts. I tried it by myself and it change the results. Milwaukee was faster and more powerfull. Give the right information to the people.
Dylan, not only that, but he had the Surge compete against the other standard impact (except for Makita that really sucked) drivers. The Milwaukee Gen 3 Impact should’ve been chosen to compete. It would’ve smoked the competition. As it was I was surprised at how well the Surge did against the other brands. They just didn’t want the Milwaukee to take 1st again...lol!
Angel of War, not really... had it really been an impartial test they would’ve picked the Milwaukee Gen 3 Impact to compete vs the Milwaukee Surge. Do you know why? Because the Surge is a hydraulic/pulse driver. It has substantially lower ROM’s and IPM’s the the Gen 3. It’s only because the Milwaukee Surge is an awesome tool that it was able to drive the screw through the oak, smoking the Makita hydraulic offering. But really the bottom line is that it wasn’t an apples to apples test.
I would have liked to see rigid in this video. I have bosch and rigid and I honestly prefer most rigid tools over bosch. I have the bosch impact in this video and the regular rigid impact. The bosch is slightly better but the hammer drill in rigid is alot better than the bosch. I also would have prefered to see all the batterys to be all the same ah rating because it makes a significant difference.
Ross Male rigid hare has to have at least 20-30 different cordless tools. I got a 5 piece brushless set from them for 599 canadian pescos. My bosch set ( not brushless) was 700 4 years ago.
Ontario! we will buy our drills from there in future. We need to find out where the cheapest place to buy power tools is. Rigid is owned by TTI who own Ryobi and AEG and the chose to sell Rigid in North America.
From my point of view, this first and single excellent review with real results and differences between Impact Drivers. First of all thank you very much! Second thing... very interested what realy happened with Impact Drivers on the market now... becouse this review is 2 years old... I am realy will be happy to see new tested results with new modelst of this year...
I think your protocols are great. All of us who are fanboys want to see our brand win on paper, but different tools excel at different applications. The truth that people don't want to admit is that you don't know how much you'll like a tool until you use it- and the better you like it, the more effectively yoy use it. I use my Bosch impact- which you're dead right about- more effectively than other guys use better drivers because I enjoy using it and mind the tool's needs to the end of getting the best results I can. Thank you for doing all this for us!
Thanks Jeff i am the first to admit this test was problematic. We will have another go at some point but looking at other tests I am not sure the result will be that different. Makita and DeWalt seem fairly safe bets. Having said that most impact drivers do the job for day to day applications.
Ryobi don't seem to market to the trade in the UK very much. They go for the DIY market more so you don't see them on site much. Nice cordless tools though...
Ryobi and Milwauke are made by the same company and in my opinion Ryobi are on a par with many of these other so called pro tools - certainly better than Bosch!
Thanks for adding the half inch drive metabo I've noticed half inch drive impact drivers are considerably cheaper than quarter inch drives even when you add in the cost of the adaptor so that's my option
Lucky for me, purchased the Dewalt before seeing this trial, (I did already have the18v drill, but needed an impact driver) I’m not disappointed with my purchase. Thanks for sharing Roger
Expect to be shot down a bit but here goes! 12 years ago my van got broken into and all tools gone. I was really short of cash and needed some power tools so i could work. I went and got an Erbauer impact driver from Screwfix. That tool is still going strong and still piles the screws in almost daily. Batteries still perfect and i can feel no wear at all on the tool itself. Yes its heavy and mine looks like its been though 3 world war's but i just cannot knock it.
Only exception for me is the dewalt flex volt hole hawg. Everything else is milwaukee. Ive owned cordless milwaukee hole hawgs and went through 2 before the dewalt
I never had use for an impact driver; I usually broke the screws with it so I prefer regular drill. Even 3/8" impact wrench is more effective on tight bolts and nuts when working on the car. Still I bought 1/2" Ridgit impact wrench with brushless motor. In wood anything should work unless you are in construction business
I have 4 classic Honda motorbikes and couldn't get some screws out. My mate came with his impact drill and got them out no problem. I decided to get the cheapest one I could, £40 from Wickes. Its one of the best tools I ever purchased. Gets screws in and out so much easier and better than with a screwdriver or drill and bit. Good too stuck nuts with adapter.
Use them to tighten a bolt. Then use a torque wrench to back them out and record what each was torqued too. You've certainly been fair. This should be a way remove all variable though.
I have the Milwaukee one you tested. Have actually used it to break free lug nuts on my 1500 series truck. While it took it a while it did do it. Even when they were hand torqued to 90ft/lb. Was really quite shocked. I notice most tools, even the wood working tools like you are testing. Usually have more power backwards than forward. I assume this is for fasteners that have become stuck due to sitting for a long time.
Great! I'll be watching. Have found quite a few of your videos very informative. Thank you for the honest reviews and really taking a fair look at things.
Fisger8 it's an impact driver not an impact wrench so that is not really an appropriate test for this tool. This is the sort of test these tools are designed to do , there is a very real chance that the Dewalt would place quite low on the sort of test you suggest but in a reality in a job situation where time is money it looks the best choice. Obviously battery run and charge time is also a factor which I'm not sure about with Dewalt as have always been a makita fan boy.
Just bought a huge set of DeWalt FlexVolt 60v tools. Got the cordless mitre saw, reciprocating saw and dremal/ skill saw. Honestly the flex volt 60’s are godly. They shift power down automatically on the huge batteries so you can use the huge 60 volt batteries on the 20 volt dewalt cordless drills. I swear putting one of the huge 60 volt batteries on the dewalt impact makes it even a bit stronger.
I have the same bosch and milwaukee impact drills. Both are great and I am surprised with the result, must have had an additional factor that prevented the bosch from working well!
Just to prove the area around the Bosch and Makita had no knots the Dewalt should have proved it could drive the unfinished screws into the wood, but that simple proof was not done? Why not?
With the new Makita impact driver XDT16 out, are you going to do another impact driver showdown or a review on it? Really keen to see how it pairs up with the rest of the other impact drivers? Btw, love your work, keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼
On site, I burnt out a brand new Bosch impact. Gaffer wasn’t best pleased! I wasn’t even going into solid oak, just stripping out a bathroom suite. The thing was smoking.
I’ve had a brush ryobi for at least 8. Still works great even after being left in 4-5 inches of water for a week while I was on my honeymoon. And her ryobi didn’t even make it into the test?...
Well I can own a harbor freight cordless drill for years and it still works! But how much did I use it, and in what conditions would be the question along with what shape is it in now. And getting something wet don’t do mean much of anything in most circumstances! I’ve sold and worked as a rep for black and decker/ Dewalt and they are mostly junk! They are a stand back and follow company that sells mainly by marketing lies, even right on the box, and selling to bandwagon jumpers that like the color or there daddy told they were the best! I will say they put a lot more QC and development into their saws, and make a good. As in table saws, circular and miter saws. That’s the only thing that I’ve kept of anything dewalt. Oh and they make a decent corded grinder but not much to screw up on a grinder really. And have owned about every single cordless dewalt tool brush and brushless! And have had most of them apart.
Thanks. Lucky when i upgraded my tools that day DeWalt got discount. Im in DeWalt ladder and very impressive good feeling and last very long. good brand.
Did you try drilling in the same screw that was sticking out the most with the best impact driver, to give it a fare test, because the oak is harder and more dense in different areas of the length of the beam.
Bosch used to be a good manufacturer. You know when even the green series was made in Germany (I have one 25yr old green angle grinder still going like a bosch!). Today even some of the blue stuff is made in China :/
exactly friends, tools are like friends and atleast i dont choose friends on basis how fast they run how long they run or how strong they are, simply a company which long last with average performance and with positieve vibration..that is Bosch.
I wonder if you used "A" mode in Makita DTD170 insted of "T" which is supposed be use for different purposes...Please try again with "A" mode 3 speed and you will be suprised. Thsnk you
I’ve been using the same DeWalt 18v Drill 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week since 2001 and it’s still going strong. Obviously that’s not constant hours but a lot of the time I would use it for 2 hours straight then do something else for a bit then back to using the drill. So that’s why all my other cordless tools are also DeWalt. I’d like to see some tests of Ryobi and Ridgid and One+ since they are more for homeowners Cheers mate
This is my 2 year olds favourite video. He is obsessed by impact drivers. He is also showing an interest in right angle drills. He knows all the brands
Jeez, tradies starting early these days
Awesome, It’s a good thing for a boy to be into!!
😂Lmfaoooo, you gotta bright future kid
Buy him a ball or something
Far and away the best Impact Driver "shootout" I've seen. No fluffery, no showmanship guff... just straight talking, and giving each driver what looked like a fair crack. I was interested in the DeWalt before watching. Now I'm buying the DeWalt! Like some of the other commentors, for a Grand Finale I would have liked to have seen the DeWalt finish out the screws that never got to 100%. If you still have that block of oak around, how about making that quick video?
Check Project Farm. Your mind would blow
I do love my Makita set, I used to be DeWalt, it aged like fine wine! Decided to try out Makita, best investment yet! Treated myself to a impact driver, drill, jigsaw and a circular saw.
I found a Makita impact that had been left on a building roof for 10+ years.. it had clearly seen lots of wether (Rust all over) and sure enough it worked I didn’t even have to get a new battery. The only thing I had to do was un seize the chuck and I’m still using it to this day!
and didn't even need charging ever since XD
I found a makita brushless drill in a skip 2 months ago. Full of plasterboard dust. I stripped it and cleaned it and it works and I am also using it. It now is my go to drill as it is my lightest. I haven't had to charge it once since.
Makitas are crap,no strength despite are same torque with some DeWalt. Not enough speed,not energy sufficient,not powerful. Gears inside like made of brass. So many models you don't know what is what,only to make noise.
Based on this, I went and bought the DeWalt. Absolutely blown away by its power and battery life. How did I manage before?
@Bob Cooper I got one of Dewalt’s right angle drills on the 20v XR5 platform for some deck work. Holy crap, that thing will run a spade bit through a treated 4x4 like nothing is there. My son kept pestering me to drill a hole so I gave him a shot. It almost threw him like a sack of potatoes.
Appicon a Dewalt is never too much
Appicon Bosch 4pc kit would be your best choice for value and power
considering you’ll need a hammer drill for brick
I’m a commercial carpenter and the 20v max xr impact is essentially my right hand. I’ve dropped it from five stories up and it still worked fine didn’t break anything on the tool itself just bent the crap out of the shaft I was using and battery was a little lose but that’s it. Between shear power and toughness alone, I wouldn’t buy anything else
Appicon grab the 887 with the 3 speed perfect all rounder.
I would have loved if you used the Dewalt to drive the rest in, just to show that the wood was not "hard" or anything else was wrong.
MrIcewing Heck yah!!! That would have been a great test for that Dealt. Would go out and buy the D after that no matter which other brand I already owned 😉
If he still has that piece of wood with those same screw in it then you could do that in a quick update video👍
Lol , why are people not willing to see the truth ?Dewalt rules because its there goal to rule , there batteris are better
also ,
Proud to say I have a dewalt
I'm agree with u, he need to screw all part of that wood to prove.
I have been running the same exact Bosch Impact as you are reviewing and I’m beyond impressed by it. Had many other brands and nothing that I have ever owned comes close to its sheer capabilities and sheer power.
Apprentice had this Bosch impact driver, we thought it was good for a while too. He dropped it off a ladder, maybe 1.5-2m high and it snapped on the handle near the battery... Having run Milwaukee and DeWalt, we were super unimpressed by the structural strength of the Bosch.
Ummm according to this test Bosch is the worst... so not sure why yours is so much better???
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I'm mighty impressed with the makita impact driver I bought 5 yrs ago. Also did an accidental drop test, 2.5m straight down onto concrete.... the battery popped off, it's still fine.
I know one thing.
My makita is 6 years old and still going strong.
I'm a Carpenter and have put it through the ringer.
Now it's not as powerful as some of the other brands but not less enough to make a difference.
Driving screws is one thing but i want my tools to last and these tests can't show that.
I've seen them all come on the job and go but my makita impact driver is still going hard.
I think thats far more important
time and money i suppose. money saved on tools without any major difference in time to complete a job.
Pretty much the same for me with the makita. I've been using mine, without any trouble at all, for years. I've seen dozens of guys show up with new impacts on jobsites only to be replaced by something else fairly quick. Dewalt is known to work great when new, but they seem to develop the most problems too. I'll take the reliability of the Makita...
I love my Makita but the other day I was using it to drive screws into drywall and it started smoking on me which is the reason why I even started watching this video. I'm so surprised and was shocked to see that happened but I always really loved my Makita and am taking second thoughts about it.
Was it the Makita or would they all have done the same thing?
I gave it a rest and it still worked fine after but my heart dropped when I noticed that happening!
@@moysesgaray8410 I've put mine through hell and never had an issue.
I think yours may have just been a rare case. As long as it was the trade quality makita not the generic DIY.
Their trade tools are awesome.
@Jay Bee the tafe i went to to get my trade used dewalt, they had a deal with the company. My teachers and the students hated them. They were always getting replaced or broken. A lot of us used our own tools instead as they were no good.
They may be better these days but it will take a long time for me to forget that.
I don't care about the minor power bonus or battery life. I care about reliability and longevity
I’m glad you are mentioning material consistency. I watch a lot of tool duel videos and such but i am always thinking not only about consistency in material, but also with consistency between operators and left or right hand etc. the way screws in wood can effect the surrounding wood and so on. I think you guys on UA-cam need to use plexiglass or hard plastic, something man made like those materials, something that doesn’t have such variation as wood and not porous like concrete.
Last test should have been a follow up with the Dewalt on all the screws that weren't driven in all the way. Bet the Dewalt company would have liked to have seen that. Thanks for the review. I'm going with the Dewalt.
Gravertrain Graveytrain then why the comment if you made up your mind before watching anything opposing your mind?
The Milwaukee wasn’t set on max look at the lights
SY the dewalt would not have drove it all the way in where the makita was wood there is a hell of a lot harder where it’s dark at if u have ever split wood you will know this and I have split mine and everyone else’s share in my life
You’re right it wasn’t set in max. Sadly this guy is so rammy he doesn’t even pay attention to what he’s doing. lol lol lol plus if you would have finished the rest of the screws with the DeWalt, it would have been junk
I have been talking to an engineer friend of mine who has offered up a theory on why the fluid drives performed so well in this test and punched well above their weight. He says that there is a certain amount of torsion in the bolts and the longer they are the more this is the case. If you hit the head you get twisting along the shank and that doesn't produce as much movement in the thread as a more sustained pushing action. Paradoxically the extra energy is, almost, counterproductive unless it is enough to produce the torsion, and some, which is what the DeWalt and Metabo did.
He went on to say that there is the torsion moment of inertia and the polar moment. I don't pretend to understand this but I like the idea that sometimes the little guy wins the fight.
Cleary all these bolts are struggling at the point where they run out of thread. As I said the force to overcome this is huge and we did snap the head of a bolt trying to drive it further with the DeWalt. Why did the video editor drop that clip?
this is the idea behind the newer impact "flex bits"
Hi was right. Thats why its not good compare fastest mode. Because its diffrent torque. Same with drill there are 2speeds 1 for 70nM 2 for 50nm. Speed 2less torque but faster work.
When you use blue. Mode. Its possible that its more speed and less torque. Ned to see in manual. What speed on what torque working.
The way an impact driver works is that the faster the hammer hits the anvil in rotation the more torque you get. It is like hitting a spanner with a hammer to tighten a nut. A drill works in a completely different way and the torque is in the gearbox and motor combination.
Interesting. I will give then a try and see what happens
What are you saying ok. Thats what told to us its true.
But i got on my own with that. Many times.
I will tel l you when its filed.
Take screw driver with 70nm. Torque.
And impact 180nm.
Then drill in to concrete hole 5.5 and use screws (special screw drill straight to concrete)with T20 or T25 head. 20 cm long.
You will see how torque 180 nm cant move screw in to concrete. And screw driver can do it with 50 nm. In my view point as more faster impact realise power, the les torque it reaching to turn screw.
To understand that use Ridgid oil Pulse impact. You will feel the diferent on your hand. Impact just hamering. Oil pulse more turning.
www.familyhandyman.com/masonry/concrete-repair/drilling-concrete-and-installing-fasteners/view-all/
I have a hard time believing Bosch did that bad. I actually switched to Bosch from my dewalt set I had. And in my personal experience the Bosch out preformed dewalt. The 4ah battery for Bosch lasted twice as long as the dewalt 5ah battery as well. Side note, after 3 years both of the Bosch batteries are as strong as the day I bought them. My coworker has replaced 4 batteries since that time. Food for thought.
It is indeed to the old 18650 batteries they used. The new procore 21700 are absolute monsters. I drive 8" timberlok lag screws into oak rough boards to tie in the new replaced wall section to the old frame and my freak drove one through the timber board. The threads of the timberlok were protruding from the rough lumber. It was a no, no, but I wanted to know.
I routinely drive the 6" grk rss screws and the freak just won't stop driving them until I release the trigger.
I have every ty0e of battery they have released, including the wireless charging and I have never had one go down. Some are over a decade old and I am a general contractor in Northern Canada. Very good tools in difficult circumstances, that's why I keep buying them
Same hated my dewalts got Bosch for the same reason better batteries and the tools do not die my two employees have dewalt and Milwaukee and they have to have 2x the batteries to finish the work day, depends on what we are hammering in depends on what ones better I can drive in tapcons they can’t but theirs perform better in wood, that also have had to replace theirs and I have not so to each his own.
had a Bosch for years, it's been hammered and is as good as it was when I first got it. I do a lot of unistrut construction. Used it recently to put 25mm woodbits through timber. It changed my working life.
Everything makita feels like it grew in your hand. That for me is enough. Every now and then a brand outperforms them in a certain way on a certain product. But then the year after they allways drop something to top that.
Never break just a joy to use.
I've seen many of these test and every time they show different results.
had at least four of these, Makita every time for me
what would have been nice to see was the 100 per centers finish the screws the others left, just in case they hit a knot or metal (you never know enough metal was fired around the wars}
Interesting point.
Need a Part 2.
Yeah Dewault!!! Little disappointed in Hilti and Makita right now
"It likes the one position... I know other people like that..." good on you, Roger!
Lol
Lmfao 🤣
Owned 3 dewalt drill in my life all have failed within 6months to a year. I have had a Milwaukee brushless now for almost 2 years it's still working almost like day 1.
Milwaukee is a very good tool!!
Wow nice anecdotal info. I've had several Milwaukee's fail within 3 weeks, but I've had the same DeWalts since the 50s.
Would like to see workzone/Parkside power tools reviewed next to these
Dewalt is all I buy ... Never let's me down and they make durable tools that can take a beating
I have a Makita impact for at least 2 years now. It has done all my jobs well so far. I would like to have adjustable torque because some jobs, its too much and it is very loud. I have Dewalt 20V batteries, so I I bought the Dewalt DCF887 new on eBay for $80. We'll see how it holds up.
Hilti impact is the driver I use daily. Had the makita and the battery didnt have the staying strength, dewalt I found was temperamental. Although I used to be a makita die hard and they used to fill my van.. ...just found hilti tools are more durable. Vids are great 👍
You wanna hear a joke?
Panasonic power tools
Mar NOi They’re like 3 times the price of the others also. Don’t have any idea how they sale any of them
No Ingersoll Rand either, they have 20v max line too
The impact Panasonic is brilliant I will never get rid of mine! It’s about 5 years old and I still beat everyone on site with speed.
@@jpk2742 the video shows otherwise bud.
MadMetalManiac74 maybe it does but we only did screw in tests which mine beat them all. I don’t really use impacts anymore though. Festool is the only way.
Got hit in the head with an impact driver. Fell off my damn shelf, was just sitting there and suddenly Bosch!
Did it knock some sense into u?
😂😂😂😂
did it get the screw in all the way?
Ur such a tool👏
I’m a DeWalt user myself, although I had tools of most brands through the years. What I noticed with DeWalt though is that the housing has a tendency to split lenghtwise.
Maybe they are too strong for their own good?
I am a mill wright and i have had the same thing happen in my exp i find milwaukee m18 line to last the longest for me
I've had several Dewalt housings crack
@@rudolfrednose7351 kam auf den Boden
I sure with ya there. My company has roughly 500 Milwaukee tools. Not only do they last through major abuse but they always stand behind warranty. We had DeWalt, not a chance do they last as long. I’m not talking alot a couple tools U guys have have in your garage. I’m talking hundreds and hundred for years and years
I loved Bradley Walsh on the Chase but he excels presenting this.
Having subsequently watched this and unsure whether to go Dewalt, Bosch or Makita I’m well happy I went Dewalt ... :)
You should have gone with Mafell
When I was working as a kitchen fitter I loved my 10.8v DeWalt, enough grunt to do everything unwanted plus light weight so no tired arms.
My original 14v DeWalt, now 15 years old are still going strong, though I am on a new set of batteries
Given the inconsistent density of wood from spot to spot, it may be nice to drive fasteners through something else next time. Perhaps 6 or 8 engineered deck boards sandwiched together? It would also be interesting to take the highest torque DeWalt and finish the rest of those lag screws that the others failed to drive. Thanks for posting a most interesting match up. Looking forward to more. Cheers!
I worked construction all my life and for price and performance and I love Milwaukee
My. DeWalt set was stolen and I needed a new one. I went to the local lumber yard and hardware store. They had a sale going on the Milwaukee still set so I went ahead and bought it. I'm glad I did because now I won't buy anything but Milwaukee....
@@trentcunningham5627 Ryobi is now made by Milwaukee and really isn't bad for cost
On the job site we have a few brands and everyone has fell in love with the Bosch hands down after using it for a few days it’s flat out the best.
Old video I know but still worth a comment, I use the dewalt 887 and it’s a great tool, well balanced with the best grip in my opinion, but driving 180mm timber coach screws it struggles after 3 or 4, not surprising as it’s not built for that sort of graft, so I have got the metabo 400 1/2” wrench and a 1/2” - 1/4” Adapter and it drives all day no issue, not as comfortable as the dewalt but for proper heavy duty the metabo is a winner
Looks: Hilti
Balls: Dewalt
Comfort: Makita
Azael Pulido
Quality and endurance: Makita
BEST Overall: Milwaukee (cause she's sexy and she knows it 😎)
Milwaukee should have been on par with Dewalt if you used the model that competes with the dewalt brushless impact drivers such as the 887. I'm a dewalt guy and I know Milwaukee is pretty Damn good.
Whistle this comparison was great, I found myself wondering if certain area's of that oak timber might have been a lot tougher to get through than others. Once the screws stalled with the weaker models it would have been a real clincher at the end
to have gone back with say the Dewalt to see if it powered the screw up to the hilt with ease. Well done Roger.
Yeah it's bol**cks really, you hit a knot you're going no where with anything of that size.
Try that Hitachi back near the first area. What a croc!
Ask any reasonably competent chippy and they will tell you wood has all sorts of qwerks, knots and soft spots. Good question.
I have an Ebauer impact driver and I love it. Really light but never has any problems . I really work it hard and I prefer it to any other I have used on jobs.
I have heard good reports of that tool from others.
I just sold 1 week ago my bosch machines and I bought Dewalt
And I am very happy with the DEWALT
is the best for me.
I ve have seen pirate/copy DeWalt in a normal tool shop! Wont buy any DW anymore.
A couple seconds of speed or a hair extra power is nice and all, but you have to balance it against noise, feel, and battery efficiency. And when it comes to those, the Makita oil drive is the clear choice. It's feather light, it's super quiet, it lasts forever, and the battery efficiency can't be beat
you could drive those screws that hitachi couldn't with dewalt just to show how much more power dewalt has
My thoughts exactly
Surely the wood especially oak has different density depending where about in the grain you're drilling too.
It is easy to see that where the wood is marked "BOS," the oak has darker and denser figure.
15:03 The screw being driven by the Hitachi quickly swings over to an inclined angle, seeming to avoid denser, to seek weaker wood. Also, the "blowback" 15:27 is suspicious, both because it implies a denser wood that doesn't allow compressed gases (e.g. air, water vapor) to penetrate into the wood away from the hole, and that hole was the only hole to display that behavior (of the holes where the screw was backed out).
It is clear that the idea that a long chunk of oak will not have widely varying local properties is not tenable.
I'm planning to get my first set of professional cordless tools. That's my reason to watch. Thank you
I’m a carpenter - Makita for me. Reliable/ergonomical/good batteries/range of quality tools. -30 to 40 , rain and snow. Makita/dewalt and Milwaukee are basically any tradesmans choice of tools. Plumbers like ridgid.
The best thing about this presentation is that we are told very quickly at the beginning which one is coming out on top so you don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want to, but I did.
I use Hitachi on metal steel and it work perfectly.
Hitachi aka Metabo HPT is perfectly good tool brand.
Ya good but not DeWalt
6:16
“So? Why are we testing ‘em..??”
“We’re testing em COZ WE LOVE TESTING TOOLS!”
Lol!! Perfect answer!!
You're supposed to test sh!t xD otherwise all you have to go on is the marketing BS of a company that is benefiting from selling you something.
Independent testing is very necessary
@@scroopynooperz9051 of course. I completely agree. Plus the bonus of getting to buy more tools! Tools to a bloke is like make up to a woman! Lol
As a carpenter working with hard Australian timbers, I’ve burnt out makita Panasonic, Milwaukee and the latest dewalt impact driver, at moment I use a Hilti and it’s light and powerful.
Note thou Milwaukee is brushless and red lithium and lasted 6 months
The panosonic lasted a year
Dewalt lasted two years
Makita has for 4 years never died but the batteries just stop working randomly.
Now Hilti is a year in no issues but it’s early days
It's the platform you run and personal preference that matters most of all. I run a surge because I like how quiet it is. Installed rear supports for drawer slides in a narrow cabinet yesterday and there was no harsh noise echoing to my ears. Not a big deal if you don't use one all the time though. But I do.
I can't believe bosch be the last I got bosch tool from 11 years I got and the old battery still working
I find it odd my two year old Bosch impact has been out preforming the counterparts on job sites running in tap cons and I’m the only one that’s yet to replace mine.
Goodness!!! My little 9.6volt AEG drill/driver of about 15 years ago would snap bolts, rather than "give up"! I just am amazed at these weak results in general!
Lmao!!
I've been on the Hitachi battery platform for a few years now and cannot fault them however it does appear that they are always claiming to be the 'best in class' yet never really performing in these tests! Seen a lot of negative comments about Hitachi of late and can't see how making big claims and not being able to match them will help the image! Shame as for the price they are good tools
Matthew Judd Their battery jailers are pretty boss though. I'm not big on battery tools but I run Hitachi just cause of the nailers, and the triple hammer driver is pretty good too. Everything else I use corded tools in a mix of brands.
Nobody makes the best of everything, unfortunately.
Ok, maybe Hilti does.
I'm not sure the impact he's using isn't faulty. Only reason I say this is I've driven larger screws into hardwood with the triple hammer and although it didn't like it, it buried them.
luke marcus-embleton i think he does not like hitachi i remember him saying hitachi sent him a drill that was not factory bet if it was a milwaukee or dewalt it wouldnt of been questioned
can these battery tools used in drilling the wall of bricks. can they use only for single house where we may need once in three In three month time ? please guide me
That is nonsense. We just did the test without fear of favour. I have no skin in the game. I have nothing against Hitachi, even though they are now deceased.
Been running 12v Dewalt for 13 years no problem.
For me modulation is the true test of an Impact driver. How slow can it go without wrecking your screw head or work.
They can all slam screws in rapidly but not all can do it slowly...
Makita all day! I work on a small crew that has 3 makitas that are 8-10 years old! We don’t use them much anymore but they still work fine!
I've got all Milwaukee the 18v combi drill is an absolute beast, impact is great, I personally think they are the best that or hilti
I have both....The Hilti is a dream. Not as powerful as my Gen3 but it is a beautiful machine!
It would have been interesting to see if any of the drills that completed the task would also have driven in those that failed, this would also show whether that spot had a knot or other obstruction.
Absolutely
Watching this with automated subtitles is just hilarious:
"Where's my penguins?"
"That's the meal walking" 🤣
9:38 - "on the side they give you the sex group"
@@archechme Now THAT is a good salespitch!
Why did the chicken cross the road?
So Roger could put stockings on its legs 😂
Hilti hands down for me. Brilliant video.
The Milwaukee M18 FID, is automatically delivered with a 5amp or in 0-version. In this video he's using 4am for Milwaukee and 5am for other brands.
Losing a bit newton and changing the result of real facts.
I tried it by myself and it change the results. Milwaukee was faster and more powerfull.
Give the right information to the people.
Dylan, not only that, but he had the Surge compete against the other standard impact (except for Makita that really sucked) drivers. The Milwaukee Gen 3 Impact should’ve been chosen to compete. It would’ve smoked the competition. As it was I was surprised at how well the Surge did against the other brands. They just didn’t want the Milwaukee to take 1st again...lol!
@@martylucas8557 I own the Gen3 Milwaukee. Really crap tool. Like all my other Milwaukee gear, it works when it feels like it.
Very impartial testing, much appreciated!
SHILL! 🤣
Angel of War, not really... had it really been an impartial test they would’ve picked the Milwaukee Gen 3 Impact to compete vs the Milwaukee Surge. Do you know why? Because the Surge is a hydraulic/pulse driver. It has substantially lower ROM’s and IPM’s the the Gen 3.
It’s only because the Milwaukee Surge is an awesome tool that it was able to drive the screw through the oak, smoking the Makita hydraulic offering.
But really the bottom line is that it wasn’t an apples to apples test.
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I would have liked to see rigid in this video. I have bosch and rigid and I honestly prefer most rigid tools over bosch. I have the bosch impact in this video and the regular rigid impact. The bosch is slightly better but the hammer drill in rigid is alot better than the bosch. I also would have prefered to see all the batterys to be all the same ah rating because it makes a significant difference.
And btw rigid is significantly cheaper where i am in ontario than dewalt bosch makita and definetly hilti
Ross Male ive seen aeg online before. It does look alot like rigid but its a lot more expensive. Is it for sure the same tool?
Ross Male rigid hare has to have at least 20-30 different cordless tools. I got a 5 piece brushless set from them for 599 canadian pescos. My bosch set ( not brushless) was 700 4 years ago.
Ontario! we will buy our drills from there in future. We need to find out where the cheapest place to buy power tools is.
Rigid is owned by TTI who own Ryobi and AEG and the chose to sell Rigid in North America.
From my point of view, this first and single excellent review with real results and differences between Impact Drivers.
First of all thank you very much!
Second thing... very interested what realy happened with Impact Drivers on the market now... becouse this review is 2 years old...
I am realy will be happy to see new tested results with new modelst of this year...
I think your protocols are great. All of us who are fanboys want to see our brand win on paper, but different tools excel at different applications. The truth that people don't want to admit is that you don't know how much you'll like a tool until you use it- and the better you like it, the more effectively yoy use it. I use my Bosch impact- which you're dead right about- more effectively than other guys use better drivers because I enjoy using it and mind the tool's needs to the end of getting the best results I can. Thank you for doing all this for us!
Thanks Jeff
i am the first to admit this test was problematic. We will have another go at some point but looking at other tests I am not sure the result will be that different. Makita and DeWalt seem fairly safe bets. Having said that most impact drivers do the job for day to day applications.
Where is the Ryobi brand? I almost always see it in the top 5 for electric tools, especially impacts. Just curious.
Ryobi don't seem to market to the trade in the UK very much. They go for the DIY market more so you don't see them on site much. Nice cordless tools though...
Ryobi and Milwauke are made by the same company and in my opinion Ryobi are on a par with many of these other so called pro tools - certainly better than Bosch!
Bosch the best, I just love the brand, and so far I have a lot of Bosch tools, they are all good so far!
yea, we see in the video : ))))) last place
Thanks for adding the half inch drive metabo I've noticed half inch drive impact drivers are considerably cheaper than quarter inch drives even when you add in the cost of the adaptor so that's my option
Lucky for me, purchased the Dewalt before seeing this trial, (I did already have the18v drill, but needed an impact driver) I’m not disappointed with my purchase. Thanks for sharing Roger
Expect to be shot down a bit but here goes! 12 years ago my van got broken into and all tools gone. I was really short of cash and needed some power tools so i could work. I went and got an Erbauer impact driver from Screwfix. That tool is still going strong and still piles the screws in almost daily. Batteries still perfect and i can feel no wear at all on the tool itself. Yes its heavy and mine looks like its been though 3 world war's but i just cannot knock it.
Milwaukee all the way, I only use *Milwaukee* and it has never let me down
Only exception for me is the dewalt flex volt hole hawg. Everything else is milwaukee. Ive owned cordless milwaukee hole hawgs and went through 2 before the dewalt
My wife likes her Milwaukee but I'm sick of fixing them
Now, just in case we're hitting something.... I'll drive it in with the Dewalt!!!
Stack up a whole bunch of different materials. Ply, dry wall, concrete, aluminum, etc... and the longest bolts you could find. Just an idea.
I never had use for an impact driver; I usually broke the screws with it so I prefer regular drill. Even 3/8" impact wrench is more effective on tight bolts and nuts when working on the car. Still I bought 1/2" Ridgit impact wrench with brushless motor. In wood anything should work unless you are in construction business
I have 4 classic Honda motorbikes and couldn't get some screws out. My mate came with his impact drill and got them out no problem. I decided to get the cheapest one I could, £40 from Wickes. Its one of the best tools I ever purchased. Gets screws in and out so much easier and better than with a screwdriver or drill and bit. Good too stuck nuts with adapter.
Use them to tighten a bolt. Then use a torque wrench to back them out and record what each was torqued too. You've certainly been fair. This should be a way remove all variable though.
The back out is different so I don't know if people will consider that fair but we will try it. We have the oak still so we can give it a go
I have the Milwaukee one you tested. Have actually used it to break free lug nuts on my 1500 series truck. While it took it a while it did do it. Even when they were hand torqued to 90ft/lb. Was really quite shocked. I notice most tools, even the wood working tools like you are testing. Usually have more power backwards than forward. I assume this is for fasteners that have become stuck due to sitting for a long time.
That is an interesting idea and we will do that as part 2
Great! I'll be watching. Have found quite a few of your videos very informative. Thank you for the honest reviews and really taking a fair look at things.
Fisger8 it's an impact driver not an impact wrench so that is not really an appropriate test for this tool.
This is the sort of test these tools are designed to do , there is a very real chance that the Dewalt would place quite low on the sort of test you suggest but in a reality in a job situation where time is money it looks the best choice.
Obviously battery run and charge time is also a factor which I'm not sure about with Dewalt as have always been a makita fan boy.
Would of been nice to look at the build quality, ergonomics etc. I always look for quality when buying tools.
Metabo 1/2 battling 1/4” drive models basically , 😂someone is cheating
It is not about finding the strongest it is about what suits you.
Exactly.... DEWALT 100% all day long
And still getting smoked by DeWalt
@ so they can afford bribes
@@VLM03 More likely: Metabo is NOT made in China, India, or Mexico....?
Just bought a huge set of DeWalt FlexVolt 60v tools. Got the cordless mitre saw, reciprocating saw and dremal/ skill saw. Honestly the flex volt 60’s are godly. They shift power down automatically on the huge batteries so you can use the huge 60 volt batteries on the 20 volt dewalt cordless drills. I swear putting one of the huge 60 volt batteries on the dewalt impact makes it even a bit stronger.
I have the same bosch and milwaukee impact drills. Both are great and I am surprised with the result, must have had an additional factor that prevented the bosch from working well!
Drive the rest in with Dewalt !
Why?
Or a really cheap one
@@Fantastika I wonder if the other drills hit a knot.
... somebody is US put a couple of the dewalt 887 to test and burned the motor out of it .
Milwaukee will burn up Dewalt
Just to prove the area around the Bosch and Makita had no knots the Dewalt should have proved it could drive the unfinished screws into the wood, but that simple proof was not done? Why not?
I wondered the same thing
With the new Makita impact driver XDT16 out, are you going to do another impact driver showdown or a review on it? Really keen to see how it pairs up with the rest of the other impact drivers? Btw, love your work, keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼
Tbh all these will do a job. I have the Hilti and Milwaukee and never had any problems. Mostly automotive work
On site, I burnt out a brand new Bosch impact. Gaffer wasn’t best pleased! I wasn’t even going into solid oak, just stripping out a bathroom suite. The thing was smoking.
I have done the same thing, I am not sure Bosch is the company it once was. Maybe too much Chinese in there.
Best review, actually most useful of all the reviews I've seen.
Thanks J D - What kind of showdown/review would you like to see next?
The Dewalt was like: "Hey, why did you stop me? I was just getting started.".
Panasonic: "Heyyyy, wait up fellas! Come on, it's not funny."
Makita" heyyyy.....hey...very very 👍....hey...hey...👍" Accept all of it , Makita is not tired of anyone !!!👊👊👊
My wife loves my tool no matter how slow it works as long as it gets the job done
Haaaa nice one
I got that DeWalt DCD791 driver and a DCF887 impact for a christmas present. I think I'm going to like them a lot.
My contractor has been in construction for 35 years and he always goes with, Milwaukee. I really do like the battery meter on the Milwaukee’s
I've had a brushless dewalt impact for 5 years now and it's bullet proof.
Yep, I have a DW dcf-886 and it's insane. Been driving SDS and all kinds of stuff with it full time since mid 2015 and it still runs like a top
Same I like to get mine out when all these wanna be chippys makitas dont do the job lol
I’ve had a brush ryobi for at least 8. Still works great even after being left in 4-5 inches of water for a week while I was on my honeymoon. And her ryobi didn’t even make it into the test?...
Well I can own a harbor freight cordless drill for years and it still works! But how much did I use it, and in what conditions would be the question along with what shape is it in now. And getting something wet don’t do mean much of anything in most circumstances! I’ve sold and worked as a rep for black and decker/ Dewalt and they are mostly junk! They are a stand back and follow company that sells mainly by marketing lies, even right on the box, and selling to bandwagon jumpers that like the color or there daddy told they were the best! I will say they put a lot more QC and development into their saws, and make a good. As in table saws, circular and miter saws. That’s the only thing that I’ve kept of anything dewalt. Oh and they make a decent corded grinder but not much to screw up on a grinder really. And have owned about every single cordless dewalt tool brush and brushless! And have had most of them apart.
Oh lord...a Milwaukee surge????? Wrong impact compared to the rest. Shaking my head.
Still performed very good
That's exactly what I said
Same for the Bosch, their 1/2" socket/impact drivers are terrible compared to the others in their range
@121bham If your not sure what he is referring to then, WHY THE HELL DID YOU COMMENT!
"My tool keeps shutting down. Is it defective?"
"That's not a defect, it's a feature"
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The “generator” is the same
I’ve been using dewalt impact driver for many years at work, it never let me down
Thanks. Lucky when i upgraded my tools that day DeWalt got discount. Im in DeWalt ladder and very impressive good feeling and last very long. good brand.
Did you try drilling in the same screw that was sticking out the most with the best impact driver, to give it a fare test, because the oak is harder and more dense in different areas of the length of the beam.
We did try different parts of that oak, we're working on new tests and better methods David.
I agree this opinion
What Iwas thinking too, the part where hitachi was driving looks especially hard from the color of the wood.
Bosch is my choice whatever result may... thanks Bosch ....
atleast your tool will keep on going when the others are failed.
Bosch used to be a good manufacturer. You know when even the green series was made in Germany (I have one 25yr old green angle grinder still going like a bosch!). Today even some of the blue stuff is made in China :/
exactly friends, tools are like friends and atleast i dont choose friends on basis how fast they run how long they run or how strong they are, simply a company which long last with average performance and with positieve vibration..that is Bosch.
All my tools were Bosch never let me down!!!!
Paul Manley my brother
I wonder if you used "A" mode in Makita DTD170 insted of "T" which is supposed be use for different purposes...Please try again with "A" mode 3 speed and you will be suprised. Thsnk you
Exactly right.
I wonder about myself. I've seen my 148 kick all comers so far. Same specs as the 170
Yes!! This Makita is fantastic,no problème on the good mode!
Turn it onto A, it'd be the top! Makita is the best hands down.
Can you recommend the top of the line from Makita? I want to buy one like this, but I don't know to much. Thanks.
Wouldn't mind seeing some of Screwfix Macallister in these
I’ve been using the same DeWalt 18v Drill 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week since 2001 and it’s still going strong.
Obviously that’s not constant hours but a lot of the time I would use it for 2 hours straight then do something else for a bit then back to using the drill.
So that’s why all my other cordless tools are also DeWalt. I’d like to see some tests of Ryobi and Ridgid and One+ since they are more for homeowners
Cheers mate