9K Coach Explains How to 1v9 as a Mid-Laner

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024

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  • @enricorocco7320
    @enricorocco7320 Місяць тому +25

    I almost feel guilty watching this video for free.
    Good job my friend.

  • @lain5782
    @lain5782 Місяць тому +8

    30:23 is rly spot on. Everyone can relate to this. Always remember to pick good spots to fight or else ull drag ur teammate down with u lol.

    • @raid1010
      @raid1010 5 днів тому +1

      But oftentimes your pub team fight under the T3 w/o visions and aegis🤣🤣

  • @BhargavaMan
    @BhargavaMan Місяць тому +47

    Animation cancelling for last hits wasn't really a Sumail thing I think, it's been around since Dota1

    • @polo619652
      @polo619652 Місяць тому +17

      Agreed. Been around since dota 1, learned it from Yaphets SF. Sumail was just a fetus

    • @alfanzain9031
      @alfanzain9031 Місяць тому

      true. I remember in 2013, newbies both allies and enemies are lost their mind when I do that in my lane.
      they like 'how do you do that? are you hacking? potang inamo gago walang utak'

    • @moon5636
      @moon5636 Місяць тому +2

      true, from dota 1

    • @georgeshaw8563
      @georgeshaw8563 Місяць тому +2

      I guess its where PainDota first saw it himself then

    • @Mayhamsdead
      @Mayhamsdead Місяць тому +5

      Whoever makes such a statement clearly has a Sumail body pillow in their closet. The moment people realized a spell has an animation, they figured out you can cancel it.
      I specifically being a Sven in DotA Allstars and baiting a Puck's phase shift, outplaying him.
      Good times.

  • @mikkeedamo5458
    @mikkeedamo5458 9 днів тому +1

    This coach is top tier, if i can afford this coach ill definitely get him.

  • @DpAmoK
    @DpAmoK Місяць тому +8

    I love content like this! Thanks for sharing

  • @emilianbiteau5292
    @emilianbiteau5292 15 днів тому +1

    5:38 well its kinda unpratical in game cuz enemy often all stand near the tower and you might die

  • @vladutfaur3580
    @vladutfaur3580 Місяць тому +5

    I loved seeing the whole 3k mmr 50 minute coaching session in the past. It would be nice if you can upload more

  • @usmanmaqsood5945
    @usmanmaqsood5945 Місяць тому +1

    thank for uploading this one.. this one is def made result oriented

  • @thenyui118
    @thenyui118 Місяць тому +2

    9:05 its okay to use q like that, you get 5 passives you will push the lane make 7 stacks with lvl 2 and harass silencer, most of lina players make this now

  • @sunitoreyilustrisimo1548
    @sunitoreyilustrisimo1548 Місяць тому

    i played dota since dota1 released Alchemist, im a mediocre player and this video made me a better player, thanks friend, keep doing the good work

  • @vengeance_game
    @vengeance_game Місяць тому +2

    yeah nullifier is like SSR item in 2k bracket
    thanks for the video tho now i know what can makes me better.
    i was always choose to play support,but lately i pick all position to ranked and sometimes i get mid or carry lane where i think i can't afford to failed

  • @inovationfurniture9546
    @inovationfurniture9546 Місяць тому

    huge insight hope i get to legend with this video

  • @fimpen9182
    @fimpen9182 Місяць тому +2

    Does the same apply (LH>DENY>HIT) for melee as well? Is there like a rule for when to drag aggro as melee mid vs range? When do you gank? Iam 6k btw but get role que games in mid and keep losing them any tip/video that is up to date?

    • @PainDota
      @PainDota  Місяць тому +5

      Yes its the same for melee and range but it depends upon whether they are in range for you to hit them. You don't want to put yourself in a position where you hit them and you can't get away. Most of the things explained in this replay are universal, it applies to both melee and range. Some exceptions are tower hitting, a bit harder as a melee unless you do a lot of damage to the tower.

  • @mrvad3r198
    @mrvad3r198 Місяць тому +3

    Lol every old Dota player used to do this. This was not a sumail thing

  • @chronology556
    @chronology556 Місяць тому +6

    Animation cancelling would be too hard for certain heroes like Razor, Sniper or Gyrocoptor. Especially with my old man reactions and finger speed.

    • @linusolofsson498
      @linusolofsson498 Місяць тому +5

      Settings > "Right-click allies to ... attack or deny" in combination with Settings > advnaced options > check "auto-repeat right mouse". This way you can hold right click on any creep to attack/deny and spam your stop action key (for me "S") to get a better effect of priming the animation for an attack than the spam clicking Pain uses in this video for very little effort.

    • @dlabsnl
      @dlabsnl Місяць тому +2

      Sniper, gyro don't have animation

    • @JetFiiire
      @JetFiiire Місяць тому +2

      Why would you want to animation cancel on heroes with no animation (gyro and sniper) ???...

    • @fusto2030
      @fusto2030 Місяць тому

      ​@@dlabsnlthey do. you can cancel them just like all the others

    • @fusto2030
      @fusto2030 Місяць тому

      ​@@JetFiiireto fake an attack, so that the enemy misses whatever you two are contesting rn

  • @Internet_Enjoyer
    @Internet_Enjoyer 5 днів тому +1

    why become good at this game? its the most fun on lower levels, on higher mmr it just gets to grinding and try-hard and frustration. i love dota but i really think a lot of people dont pay attention on whats fun and instead waste their freetime trying to become pro or rank up in mmr and all the trash.

  • @rutherfordgi
    @rutherfordgi 15 днів тому

    This is actually very helpful. How to get a session like this

  • @sarvarshodiyev3860
    @sarvarshodiyev3860 Місяць тому

    40:23 why people fight in disadvantage like without mider or without carry 3vs 5, 4vs 5? I hate this

  • @auto1nfanticid3
    @auto1nfanticid3 Місяць тому

    8:08 he DOES have to Q that creep though because according to him he misses 50% of his last hits. even without stopstuttering this is a terrible cs percentage to be hitting in trainer.

  • @jiiyuuu
    @jiiyuuu Місяць тому +1

    specs? amazed u are hitting 500-600fps, can only hit 400 with 5800x3d

    • @PainDota
      @PainDota  Місяць тому +1

      7800x3d is the goat

    • @jiiyuuu
      @jiiyuuu Місяць тому

      @@PainDota damn. Looks like be upgrading soon

  • @michaeljones-fr5ch
    @michaeljones-fr5ch Місяць тому +1

    I played a game vs a right click build ogre yesterday and I was clinkz I and I couldn't do anything. I couldn't last hit or deny or do any damage to his hero. Any thoughts

    • @r3load403
      @r3load403 Місяць тому +1

      in lane? just rightclick him until he has to play more passively and you can get more lasthits. Sam thing with puck for example, if you play against a dk what can you do? Harass, otherwise you will get owned

    • @Nico-ji5xm
      @Nico-ji5xm Місяць тому

      Drain your mana to ogre/dk until he backs out then you regen mana

    • @kazcrash246
      @kazcrash246 Місяць тому

      Bro ogre magi has a large base attack, if u want to secured last hit u have to burst him because he's melee and you are range

    • @JetFiiire
      @JetFiiire Місяць тому

      They're all wrong, some matchups just cant be "won" (you can't out lh/deny and you can't push him out of lane).
      In this case, you can ask for a gank, or you can take jungle camps or stack for later if you're good at farming stacks, you can gank other lanes if your hero is good at it, you can build specifically to go farm jungle (like rush mask of madness on some heroes). On clinkz vs Ogre you either build for fast ganks if both teams allow it, or you max the creep eating spell so you can periodically go into the jungle and eat a big neutral while killing the camps. You can still be more of a nuisance than Ogre with less farm and xp if you play Clinkz well.

    • @huniverso
      @huniverso Місяць тому

      get gud

  • @edench73
    @edench73 Місяць тому

    theres an easier way to do the animation cancel

  • @jackthurlby852
    @jackthurlby852 Місяць тому +1

    hey whats the last hit trainer called again? the arcade game?

    • @PainDota
      @PainDota  Місяць тому +3

      Training Polygon

  • @rev9115
    @rev9115 Місяць тому

    Ngl when i first played dota when people repeatedly click move i thought it is just stupid ... same with last hit

  • @EldritchBladesgaming
    @EldritchBladesgaming 14 днів тому

    Dont worry buddy. 9k players also smoke into nothing most of the time. And sometimes make extremely questionable builds

  • @SuperThunderPanda
    @SuperThunderPanda 16 днів тому +1

    I got stage 10 cancer from all the ads

    • @desibrate3244
      @desibrate3244 13 днів тому

      Then buy premium or shut the f up, f49907

  • @raulmontero8736
    @raulmontero8736 28 днів тому

    Where r u from @Pain

  • @Lychwee
    @Lychwee 15 днів тому

    My pub game is gonna take the advice from 29:50 to heart and never buy bkb because no one is a threat to them

  • @damjanzugic6343
    @damjanzugic6343 4 дні тому

    Sumail? Bruh we've been doing that in 2006 in dota1, lmao...

  • @mortadadwk8460
    @mortadadwk8460 16 днів тому

    I'm 8k this video ain't for me good job though the stuff you mentioned are pretty much half or more of dota 2

  • @aeron1758
    @aeron1758 Місяць тому

    What are your pc specs?

  • @Murleenn
    @Murleenn Місяць тому

    Its sad that people dumb down their own potential just because of the bracket they are in, most people dont understand that there is not a big ass differrnce between 2k and 5-6k mmr and should straight out research how to play better themselves instead of blaming teammates being bad and enemies being too "good". Start playing like a 8k+ mmr player instead. This is how I gained thousands of mmr quickly (climbed from 1.8k)
    if you are sub 6kmmr, hear this, Even at higher mmrs I still see monkeys that seem like they play with their feet but still win games constantly, so u dont have to be afraid of "higher rank" players

  • @aslan1042
    @aslan1042 25 днів тому

    36:47 you want them to get rosh lol slardar jugg no hp and low mana how can they tank rosh maybe exchanging hits LOL bruh try to review what you saying that's risky command. stay in 9k :P

  • @perfectsmoker751
    @perfectsmoker751 Місяць тому

    BRO YOU ARE COACH BUT I WANT YOUR GAMEPLAY........... YOU CAN REVIEW YOUR GAMEPLAY TOO IF YOU WANT(:

  • @Rick-pr6du
    @Rick-pr6du 13 днів тому

    I was crusader now Ancient 1 i just play offlane and copy amar hahahaa

  • @federicocapriotti2180
    @federicocapriotti2180 Місяць тому +2

    low bracket, u tp to farm, u prioritize farm, u only tp when it's advantegeous fight etc. but side lanes feed, am 30 min. battlefury, enemy safelane takes offlane tower at 7 minutes cause in the first 4 minutes enemy ursa in mega kill, then mb u do 1 good teamfight and u are happy u recovered, u try to lead them, u say go rosh, they dont go rosh, u say let's smoke ward take back map control, they dont smoke, u say ok i have bkb timing let's go, they dont feel to do it or u win teamfight and they all go push t3 with first aegis when enemy is spawning in 20 seconds instead of fucking take the opportunity to split farm the map now the threat is dead, push lanes and have creeps give us info of where the enemy maybe, im 3k mmr, i had many many coaches tell me "u cant be legend" by watching my mechanics and understanding of the game, but then again i cant control the brain of brainless monkeys and so i just accept defeat and go next.

    • @goaway7904
      @goaway7904 Місяць тому

      ok😊

    • @Marius-pc9et
      @Marius-pc9et Місяць тому +2

      Im in the same spot as u bro, even if a call was good but u lost the fight bc of the execution, after that they will stop listen to u and at that point game is lost

    • @federicocapriotti2180
      @federicocapriotti2180 Місяць тому

      @@Marius-pc9et i feel u

    • @MeLoveParisHilton
      @MeLoveParisHilton Місяць тому +2

      Macro calls don't matter if you are actually much better than your rank. We just saw Mason rank up and he was going 20-0 with silliest builds from the midlane in 3k. Last year Black was recalibrating and did the same thing. I watched him on his stream dominating game after game after game. High MMR players have way superior mechanics and game sense. It doesn't matter what their teammates do

    • @ctrl.s3565
      @ctrl.s3565 29 днів тому

      yes bro youre better than everyone in your bracket but stuck at 50% win rate thats crazy 💀

  • @okbehindyou
    @okbehindyou Місяць тому

    W

  • @francoramirez7651
    @francoramirez7651 Місяць тому

    Lol

  • @Marius-pc9et
    @Marius-pc9et Місяць тому +6

    This players are so bad for this rank... I have the same rank but i play a lot better... His lack of knowledge is huge, i think this player never played mid, i mean u dont agro, u dont block wave.. Dont harass the enemy when u have the oportunity, dont know what enemy hero does...

    • @goaway7904
      @goaway7904 Місяць тому +9

      so why are u this rank then

    • @mals4827
      @mals4827 Місяць тому +17

      bros bringing in-game toxicity into the coments💀

    • @felixschmidt5241
      @felixschmidt5241 Місяць тому +3

      You have other problems then. Otherwise you would not be that rank

    • @CakeprogressS
      @CakeprogressS Місяць тому +5

      It's about the things you don't notice. You might be better at micro moments but to assess the macro level decisions of other players is very difficult without knowing each and every thought of theirs

    • @manOfTheSaltpans
      @manOfTheSaltpans Місяць тому

      watch your game replay and youll see how bad you play. If not you may not have enough self-awareness.

  • @developer1133
    @developer1133 Місяць тому

    how much MMR does this guy? cuz im cruuz1 and play much better honestly

  • @kornbred7310
    @kornbred7310 День тому

    the accent is cringe