L is more intelligent. Light is a better manipulator and possessed supernatural assistance. The fact L was able to corner Light so often despite playing at a disadvantage is a testiment to his greater intellect.
@@RealLifeIronManI think they were actually as intelligent. Just not the same intelligence. Difference between a strategist (L) or a tactician (Light). Not the same thing. Tacticsbis what make you win a battle. Strategy is what make you win a war.
@@RealLifeIronMan L is probably smarter, but I think it’s closer than most people realize. Light obviously figured L knew he was kira, but successfully fully evaded incriminating himself despite that.
@@RealLifeIronMan Light Yagami (Kira): Intelligence Level: Off the charts! 📚🔍 Why?: Light’s strategic brilliance, meticulous planning, and ability to outwit his opponents make him the ultimate chessmaster in this dark game of life and death. His manipulation of the Death Note and his cat-and-mouse dance with L and Near showcase his genius. L: Intelligence Level: A close second! 🕵♂🔎 Why?: L’s deductive reasoning, quirky methods, and relentless pursuit of Kira keep us on the edge of our seats. His analytical mind and obsession with solving the case make him an iconic detective.
L has lost his own battle, but revealed most of the complicated mysterious puzzles in the case to his successors, so they collectively won the war. Personally I prefer the ending of the Japanese movie adaptation more as L sacrificed himself by writing his own name to postpone his death, so Rem couldn't kill him by writing his name again, that's how he drew or tied with Light.
@@AventSirAvent, you should scale the live actions? 2006 and The Last Name. Movie Light is so much better, like around Akiyama's level. He killed 562 million people in the first 14 weeks of actively killing as Kira, he anticipated from the start that investigators would first approach the Kira case by recording the time and day of every killing that Kira did and combining it using the Law of Large Numbers. Light kills at seemingly random times but he had actually been carefully killing to set the schedule as a predictable college student. And other stuff like Naomi Misora strategy. Also Films L stops his heart temporarily to fake death which is impossible acting skills and some of the best EM in scd
He basically had the case solved. The fact that nobody wanted to test the book with criminals sentenced to death was very convenient. L biggest win was getting Light so cornered he had to concede the most valuable information to fake his innocence: the existence of the Death Note. With that revealed, Kira's position was forever crippled.
I'm sorry but it is so out of his character. The real L would have never sacrificed himself without being certain, and sure he wasn't sure that Rem would have attempted to kill him.
@@brenosulzbacheryou're forgetting that light had let L catch on. L gets nowhere if Light just chose to ignore the initial trap or didn't make it obvious the killer was a student etc.
@@HiroIsKheel you know what I mean, L had no clue how Light killed or the true extent of his power. The only thing he truly knew was face and name were required. Him figuring that out so early, also shows how smart he is, while Light falls for an obvious trap.
@@devilshooter126m8 L finding out Kira needed a face and a name to kill isn't the genius galaxy brain deduction you think it is. All the criminals Light killed were broadcasted with their name and face, even Matsuda could put two and two together. The answer, which I see no one talking about, to who truly is smarter is in the Yotsuba arc. The whole arc was just a bunch of episodes proving Light is smarter, Good-Light pulled off way better feats in this arc than L. Showing he's just as or even a better detective than L. During this arc, Good-Light deduces that Kira can control people and kill them without a heart attack before L does, despite being on the case for way shorter than him. This is way harder to deduce than realising every criminal that died had their name and face publishised. Light even finds the Yotsuba-Kira before L does. Light is constantly shown to be at L's level or higher the whole arc, which kind of makes sense narratively, since he did high diff him in the end.
@@HiroIsKheel Light was working truly thinking he wasn't Kira, L was trying to piece together why the change in Light was so sudden and drastic (what i mean by "dealing with MAGIC Forces he didn't understand). L reasoning is muddy knowing Light is Kira, while Light is working with a clear slate. That dulled L's detective reasoning, while raising Light's. Also (i could be wrong haven't watch DN in some time) L knew Kira could kill not using heart attacks, but what he likely didnt know is that the Death Note can sudo warp reality to cause deaths that look like complete accidents, A car just happening being at the right place at the right time for example. Regardless L knew Light was Kira, the only thing L couldn't do was arrest due to lack of evidence "dealing with MAGIC Forces he didn't understand" pops up again. but lets say they gave L to act above the Law in efforts to catch Kira, Light would have been arrested very early on. L figures out Light by Light own mistakes, and criminal profile of Kira L made early on.
Light cheated more, but I guess L would have done the same had he had more time. Anyways, they both lost at what they both ultimately wanted to do, so Ryuk won.
L won. It was like playing a game of chess against a person without knowing the rules. L had to observe his opponent the whole time, gradually understanding how the pieces worked. also imagine having a note book that lets you kill ANYBODY at ANYTIME without leaving any traces behind and still getting caught.
@@Ayeee155 If player 1 beats player 2 but player 2 protégés beats player 1 why would player 2 be the victor if they’re dead gone and lost the game? It’s discrediting to the protégés. They won not player 2. He lost
@matijaknezevic4184 it's not at all People are bias towards L because he's calm and his inner monologs are typically Syllogisms While Lights inner monologs are typically his feelings or goals But his "feats" of his intelligence outside of inner monolog reasoning, completely outperform L Many completely ignore the fact Light was able to manipulate L (in the same scene Lights dad had a heart attack) into questioning if Light was kira, despite L giving him a reasoning test JUST directly before Light is also able DESTROY Near and Mello, who When working together outperform L, to which Light lost due to 2-3 layers of plot
To be honest. Once rem came I genuinely don’t know how L could ever win. Light essentially just had to make the connection for rem that “if L gets too close it hurts misa”. And rem does the rest. Which was not hard as misa is the second Kira. I feel like L had no way to win after this. L did amazing despite this, and outsmarted light several times. The only reason he wasn’t instantly killed was because of this brilliance, all while not knowing the rules of the game he was playing. So I can’t help but say L was smarter. There can’t really be a discussion about who wins without discussing this cheat code. I agree that light has shown far better feats of manipulation while l better feats of deduction. But 1. If a cheat code like rem was not there I’m convinced L would have won. 2. Ls intelligence was just more impressive to me, I often think imagine evil light was Kira, and good light was L who would win. Could he catch himself? I don’t think so, I don’t think he could even narrow it down to Japan, that requires an incredible amount of psychoanalysis that light never showed. He couldn’t get far at all I think. For me L >light
It is a very objective conclusion that L would have won without Rem. People view Misa as a liability, but her existence with another Death Note is what allowed Light to get away from the hole he himself dug. If we recap what happened until Misa appearence, L already had Light as his prime suspect. Lights actions didn't gave him much advantage at all. He basically created internal conflics that led multiple people to leave the investigations, but at what cost? Using police information helped L to reduce the whole Kanto region into people with connections to the japanese police. That triggered the FBI agents, that in turn led Light to kill them all and left the search basically to a couple of suspects. And what he had on L after those moves? He's nowhere close to get info on L. In the manga you can see so many little interactions between both and L was all over Light. And Light masterplan to fake his innocence came with a HUGE price: revealing the Death Note to the world. Lol, L was about to easily solve the case with a couple of hours after acquiring the Death Note. Then everything Mello and Near were able to achieve was because of the rumors of the existence of the note.
@@brenosulzbacher agreed. Another thing that is often not mentioned is that according to the rules, rem only dies if her act of killing someone prolongs the death of the one she loves. The fact that killing L at that moment killed rem means that if rem hadn’t killed L there misas life would have been cut short (L would have caught misa)
@@brenosulzbacher having Light as the prime suspect means nothing compared the the actions of misa. the entire reason that L COULD corner Light at that point was due to misa. unless you can explain how L would have won without misa?
@@bboywolf Dude, L simply went to Light and revealed himself, making it clear he was a huge suspect while also protecting himself from Light. If we use logic, all facts up until then pointed at least towards people that were investigated by the FBI agents. Oh, so you really think Light would be able to keep this facade for long beign constanly watched by L? At what point would he be able to use wires again, cameras again? The entire show have so many convenient windows for Light. - Going to the police in the exact 5-10 minute window of the day that Naomi went (Oh and maybe she could have left her phone number to the receptionists, huh?). - Like the FBI going to Japan without fake IDs (imagine Ray turning around in the subway "Penber is just an allias, you are under arrest"). - Light knowing about the cameras because of his tricks in the door, which implies that his mom never entered his room in the entire arc. - L not putting anybody to follow Light as soon as the second Kira talked about how he found Kira, implying he found it, but didn't made contact yet. He conveniently remembered to do so the exact day after Misa went to Light's house. - The fact that they took Misa into custody for beign the second Kira and L allowed Light to roam unsupervised for a couple of days even though he stated that Light was now their clear prime suspect and that he would want to bring him in too. Why not do it at the exact same time you captured Misa, since you didn't had any connection before between Light and Misa, but now you suddenly discovered that the girl beigns suspect of beign the second Kira knew Light. L could have simply asked for Light to go together, since he was already visiting the task force to "help". L didn't asked since when he knew her, nothing. And we know why: the story would simply end there, because there would be no time to elaborate a plan. And those are just the quick ones from the top of my head. Like I said, for how long would he be able to keep things, even if we deleted Misa? Light whole thing about getting close to the investigation was hoping he would find something about L or to get his trust. We know as a fact that L never trusted Light the whole story and that Light never came close to finding any clue about L past. Zero, nada. Meanwhile, L closed the gap very quickly. I mean, look at all those things that happened. They did because the story would be boring and would have to end. When people talk about to show and the story is to analyse the good points, but also the incosistencies. In a lot of those inconsistencies we can say they are believable, but extremely lucky, at least. Remove the conveniences of beign the protagonist and not beign able to lose, then think about how things could have unfolded.
L and Light were playing two different difficulty settings. Light simply required that L died, and not even by his own hand. L had to prove that Light was L to a judge. That's going to be a lot harder with all of the supernatural BS flying around. Light obviously "won" but I think calling him "smarter" than L requires something extra.
Light already started off at a disadvantage. he has no training, no experience, no access to money or information like L. that's the only way L could have a chance is if Light handicapped himself. but since we know he did handicap himself we can't brush it off because it was a mistake. it's like twisting your ankle and then acting like it didn't affect a game you play in
L had light at literally every turn. Without the instant win card of rem Light has no way to get his name plain and simple. They were playing on two different difficulty settings L would have to capture and convince people of the supernatural. Light has to kill someone with a book that can kill anyone he had it on easy mode.
@@bboywolf"no access to information" he had access to his dad's computer, who was the chief of the NPA and who personally worked with L, so light did indeed have a lot of information
Realistically, if Ryuk didn't inform Light about the detective then L wins almost immediately. Also it was up to Ryuk a second time to find the cameras and such although light would have known there was tampering, but if the shinigami wasn't uncharacteristically helpful for those 2 events then light would have been exposed very early on since light would also have never known when the surveillance was removed.
@@CameronClark-rt7dm honestly if you think about it, light says he thinks they expected some cameras to be found. If he/his sister/his mother did find some (which is never explored) they'd have talked to each other about why there are random cameras since none of them were included to the plan. An ordinary person would likely remove the cameras and potentially call the police, so deliberately not mentioning to his little sister that there are cameras in places like her bedroom and bathroom is more suspicious than doing nothing in my opinion.
Hey man this is the second video ive noticed some pretty significant editing errors. Id be happy to help you. Your content is solid and def deserves high quality editing. 1:23:43
4th attempt Could L solve the Sadako Murders? Basically with the scenario from 1998’s Ringu (or Ring) could L A. Solve the case and deduce Sadako is an Onryō performing these supernatural killings B. Somehow figure out about the “you must copy the tape to avoid being killed” rule, which the investigators in the movie failed to find out about and got one of them killed L would effectively have infinite time to prep/investigate until he finds and watches the tape. Then he has only 7 days.
Guys you all should realise that the fact Rem died after writing L's name ,if light didn't use the cheat code of rem to kill L. L would have solved the kira case and then executed light and misa as first and second kira. Thus it killed rem and expanded misa's life span .
@l.pricetag.5207 you must have your literary comprehension stats set to zero because the author explained how it would have turned out if L didn't get killed. Even then, that's not a Light W. Just an L loss. If that other Shinigami wouldn't have been there that entire scene wouldn't have happened.
Equal advantage L had, authority over the FBI, Kirae task force, the international police and even had Millions of dollars and resources from Watari. How far could L have gone in the investigation without these?
@@HiroIsKheel In the end even if the whole world is facing him, it's still unfair. You're eventually talking about humans vs supernatural human (Not a simple supernatural power but GODlevel!!!) so calling that an equal advantage when the god level power is equal to what you've just mentioned (Impossible this is a joke actually). So Light's loss in the end is because of his ego and impulsiveness, he could've used the shinigami eyes but he refused because of his ego, and even if he won, that doesn't mean he's smarter because of what I've just mentioned. L did more than any human could do against a man with a god power.
@@Dr_Abdo_Ahmed I guess I see where your coming from but lol, screaming "God level" implies Light had an inconceivable amount of power, when in reality the deathnote just gives the user a method of killing individuals who's name and face you know and aswell as manipulating their actions before death. And the manipulation aspect of the Deathnote isn't as broken as you think, there's rules in it that nerf its manipulation like... People not being able to be manipulated into doing things they wouldn't otherwise normally do, aswell as anything that is physically and logically impossible, aswell as doing any actions that would lead to the death of others. If you think about this this nerf is significant, means light can't just manipulate Matsuda to kill L or something. Light even thought of doing something like this in part 2 of Deathnote but trashed that whole line of thinking because of the reasons I stated earlier. The Deathnote doesn't make Light an Omnipotent God, capable of insta-killing anyone he pleases like you imply. It's actually comparable to a sniper irl, if you actually think about it lol. Light still had to come up with the strategies, plans and avoid L's traps to win, not to mention he had to make sure Misa didn't get herself aswell as himself caught, which is another nerf he got. Do you still think it was unfair, even after you contrast this to L's vast Funds and resources, authority over the FBI, Interpol and multiple Police forces, even in different countries. Aswell as Watari, don't forget Watari 😭🙏. No joke Watari is cracked asf.
@@HiroIsKheel Misa is nerf?!! Yes, she was truly stupid, but man aren't (most) of L's associates stupid, too. At least Misa isn't as stupid as Matsuda😂. (I'm just joking here) To be serious, actually, without Misa and her so loyal emotion-controlled shinigami, Light wouldn't have been able to kill L at all due to his own restriction not to use the eyes. And yes, when you talk about superpower like that, even if restricted by rules, but still beyond human realization. all humans are nothing against this hidden illogical power, especially with eyes that enable you to see their names. I agree with you that L really has multiple resources, but it was clear that Rem's role is totally unfair. Even L's winning in the timeline of the Japanese movie adaptation, he didn't expect that Rem is going to do it, though because simply it's not logical at all. A god is emotionally manipulated by a human?!! I bet that Ryuk himself couldn't accept or realize that😅
If L wasn’t “restrained” by law and the police and had managed to catch Light unprepared, he would probably easily proved Light guilty. He was right the whole time. Just hadn’t the means to prove it.
I first watched deathnote in 2022- from that time - i went through countless comparisons between lawliet and light - to find out was smarter, but no satisfying answer came out but here below is my study: When analyzing the intelligence and capabilities of L and Light Yagami from "Death Note," it's essential to consider various perspectives and contexts. Numerous outcomes and debates exist regarding who is superior, with some arguments favoring L and others Light. Additionally, the "Change the World" version of L (CTWL) is often considered the strongest, adding another layer of complexity. Raw Intelligence and Analytical Ability: L: L's skills in deduction, induction, reasoning, and his analytical prowess are exceptional. He operates with a high level of intuition and logical reasoning, often able to draw conclusions from minimal evidence. His ability to psychoanalyze and understand the mind of his opponents is unparalleled. Social Intelligence and Manipulation: Light Yagami: Light's strength lies in his ability to manipulate others and his understanding of social dynamics. He excels in strategic planning and using emotional intelligence to exploit people's weaknesses. His ability to create and execute long-term plans while staying steps ahead of his opponents showcases his strategic genius. Willpower and Determination: Light Yagami: Light’s relentless pursuit of his goals and willingness to take extreme measures to achieve them is a testament to his strong willpower. This drive often gives him an edge in high-stakes situations. Broader Perspective: In a broader perspective, both L and Light are geniuses in their respective domains. L excels in intellectual rigor and logical deduction, while Light excels in social manipulation and strategic planning. They represent two sides of intelligence that are not easily comparable because they function in different dimensions. Overall Conclusion: L is unmatched in raw intelligence, analytical skills, and psychoanalytical abilities. Light Yagami surpasses in social intelligence, manipulation, and strategic execution. If forced to choose one based on a broader perspective of intelligence, it might lean slightly toward L for his exceptional deductive skills and raw intellectual power. However, recognizing the multidimensional nature of intelligence, it's fair to acknowledge that both L and Light are geniuses in their own right, each excelling in different areas. This nuanced view respects the complexity of their characters and the diverse forms of intelligence they embody Spectrum of Intelligence Acknowledging the multidimensional nature of intelligence, both L and Light are geniuses in their own right. They excel in different areas, making a binary comparison inadequate. It's more accurate to view their capabilities on a spectrum: Near vs. Light Yagami: Light outsmarts Near, demonstrating a more considerable difference in their abilities. L vs. Light Yagami: Both have strengths that make them undefeatable in specific situations. L in analytical prowess and Light in social strategy. in the end it's more like saying - Python vs Rust (L vs Light ) - both are good for ML so a single answer cannot come but instead we need a spectrum but when it comes to Python vs C (L vs mello) - python takes upper hand because it has upper hand in ML
Honestly if they were actual detectives working together they would be unstoppable Light is the social one with connections and the ability to manipulate people into getting what he wants, L is the observer, and will instead watch from the sidelines
@@Evren_ My point is that has nothing to do with Light's intelligence. It was only about protecting Misa. And a supernatural advantage also has nothing to do with Light's intelligence.
@creativevisiongaming not really. His ability to manipulate the scenario to get rid of both L and Rem, his biggest threats. Sure, if Rem wasn't there, Light would've had less to work with, but thats an entirely different scenario, we don't know what would've happened. Both are vastly intelligent, but disregarding Light's manipulation of the situation is ridiculous.
@creativevisiongaming because Light told misa to start killing again. Light wanted rem to kill L. Rem tells Light that she'd kill anybody to protect misa Light tells Misa to start killing again, with the knowledge that L will begin catching on. Light knows that L closing in on Misa is a risk to her, therefore knowing Rem will kill L, and therefore die herself by extending Misa's life via saving her. All of this is shown in the show.
i think L was smarter, and i just feel like he knew but wanted concrete evidence that light was kira. idk i think L like wins in a sense but Light technically won
I actually disagree with who TRULY won, because neither actually won their game. Light was unable to get a name, L was unable to convict Light. Both of them set up things that would defeat the other.
@@godserena6059I would say Lights main goal was the get rid of L. His secondary goal was to get his name until he found a way to get rid of him without getting his name. So Light won but his means to win changed to win.
1)What if the person whose name was written in the Death Note was? Would they just die of a heart attack? •In a coma. •Dying. •Being operated on. •In outer space: Space Station, on a moon, on another planet, in a space shuttle, etc
Just starting to watch the video, but I want to share my thoughts before starting: L won. Both of them played well, but there is a key difference. L didn't care for his personal safety. Losing his life was not the same loss as it was to Light. To observe who won we would need to see what their goals were going into this. L wanted Kira caught and stop his killings. Light wanted to permanently change the world as the god of the new world. While Lights work turned on its head once he was gone, Ls goal was fullfilled, even if not by his own hand. L dying was losing a battle, not the war.
Hello Avent, I am your viewer from Turkey and your videos are great. I recently read the DEATH NOTE short stories manga and I was very confused because I wondered if there was a solution to the A-kira case. A-Who can solve the Kira case? Can you make a video about this or is it possible to solve it? Since my English is not good, I wrote it with the help of translation, I hope it is not wrong.
My own head canon back in the day was anyone who dealt with Shinigami or interfered with their plans, usually got their cards marked so Ls downfall was really because he messed up the fun the Shinigami were having with Beyond Birthday using his eyes. Although the Death Note sequel ruins that head canon cause Shinigami get revealed to the wider world and the Shinigami King just outright cheeses Minoru
I think L is smarter, but Light has the advantage in the way he manipulates people around him. It’s just that it didn’t work on L, but light quite literally had everyone else fooled completely even in the face of evidence.
My first thoughts just started was L was going against Super natural forces and possible Police Corruption And Still Knew who His Suspect was While L Could Not Close his Case However His Successor Was able too
You know how L found out that he was in Japan the L Pember thing where it was only in his local area. Why didn’t he keep doing that to eventually where only light can see certain criminals names and if those criminals were killed then it’s proof.
If Rae Pember hadn’t shut down his fiance when she immediately found the bus jacking incident suspicious maybe they could have worked together to crack the case.
1)English words confused with other English words: •Bo+red=bored: Light is bored and needs something to do •Boar+d=board: piece of wood. Board game. •Their time has come •There is a time and a place for everything. •They’re over it. They are over it. •Feet 👣is plural of foot 🦶🏻 System of measurement. •Feat: achievement •Poll. Hilary Clinton wanted to get Pokémon to go the poll to vote. •Pole: Flag pole, fishing pole or rod. •Tear: shed a tear. Tear rip up. •Tare: seed of vetch. the weight of the container •Sight: see with one’s eyes. •Site: Location of the treasure on the map. •To: to be or not to be that is the question. •Too: Never too much. •Quiet: Quiet on set. •Quite: Quite right you are Holmes. •Your: Your time has come. •You’re/You are: You’re right on the nose. You are correct Mr. Bond. •Die: I expect u to die Mr. Bond. •Dye. They dyed the river green for St.Patrick’s day •Dying to meet you. •Dieing/dyeing my hair purple. •Tale as old as time. •Tails: A horse has a tail. •Layer: onions and ogres have layers. •Lair: Den. Hide out •Golf Tee •Drink Tea
Light is clearly smarter and beat L at his own game. L was written to just magically always know what Light's plans were with no real way for him to actually come to those conclusions. Meanwhile Light still managed to triumph even with all of Ls plot armor.
Yes it was very plausible from the second the note book was "revealed" if we're being real, and far more likely the second time it got revealed. Light literally revealed everything about the notebook because he is arrogant.
Taking away the shinigami from light is like taking away L's obscene wealth. They both jar "unfair" advantages over each other however one used every possible way to win and the other didn't
Light won but L is wayy smarter. L-IQ190-220 Light IQ-175-180 Search Light yagami vs Ayanakouji. I explain everything there. in Near vs mello vs Light, i also explain there.
@@Blazeinferno1000 Google's estimates aren't in any way satisfactory and so are the methods threreof. There isn't really detailed criterion for such estimation other than the chart I presented by 'Elliott Kelley', on quora, who funny enough is also a super genius.
Light Yagami (Kira): Intelligence Level: Off the charts! 📚🔍 Why?: Light’s strategic brilliance, meticulous planning, and ability to outwit his opponents make him the ultimate chessmaster. His manipulation of the Death Note and the cat-and-mouse game with L showcase his genius. Advantage: Light had the supernatural advantage of the Death Note and Misa’s Shinigami eyes, which allowed him to triumph. L: Intelligence Level: A close second! 🕵♂🔎 Why?: L’s deductive reasoning, quirky methods, and relentless pursuit of Kira keep us on the edge of our seats. His analytical mind and obsession with solving the case make him an iconic detective. Resourcefulness: L hires experts (like Aiber and Wedy) and operates from a dedicated HQ, utilizing police forces worldwide. Verdict: Light wins this battle of wits, but that doesn’t mean L was a fool. L’s genius lies in his planning skills, deduction, and eye for detail. He’s the quintessential detective, even if he didn’t have the supernatural edge. So, in the grand showdown of brains, both Light and L shine brightly-each with their unique strengths and approaches. It’s like comparing apples and oranges, but with more death notes! 🍎📝🍊
I Believe Light to be smarter and to have come out victories between the two. Light never had the "advantage" to the degree that people make it out to seem. The death note is nothing but a gun, while Light is the shooter. The only time the death note/Ryuk intervened and actually helped Light throughout the story, is when he counted the cameras in Lights rooms when L. had bugged it. But even with this, Light already knew that L. had bugged the room, he just didn't know where and how many cameras there were. Light wouldn't have gotten caught, just would've had to deal with the cameras in a more difficult way. The death note isn't an advantage, its simply a tool that Light uses in a genius manner to do as he pleases. We see what it would look like when the "death note" is in the hands of someone incompetent(Mikasa), Similar to JJK when regarding the likes of Gojo and why he`s the "strongest". He`s the strongest because he`s Satoru Gojo, he`s not Satoru Gojo because he`s the strongest. We see another character(Yuta) with his arsenal and gifts and he doesn't perform nearly as well because Gojo spent his entire life mastering his gifts and powers to a degree that no other person even if they had his same powers could achieve. Its the same with Light no other person could do what he did with the death note at least not with his finesse and efficiency. People love to argue that L. was "playing a game in which he didn't even know the rules to". This isn't convincing considering the "game" wouldn't have been NEARLY as close if L. didn't have the resources of ALL of Japan and Light wasn't being jeopardized and costed the entire show by 3rd parties such as Mikasa and her Shinigami, and Mikami(the delete guy). Light has to spend the later half of there rivalry cleaning up the mistakes of other characters. L. is the one who had the advantage truly, he had the resources of all of japan, and didn't have characters in the show getting his way at every turn on the road to victory. I think the most impressive feat in terms of IQ in the entire show is when Light planned an entire 3 months ahead predicting the moves of just about every character in the show(helicopter scene), I personally haven't seen a feat from L. that's remotely as impressive than that. Don't get me wrong I think Light and L. are neck and neck just with Light having a slight advantage in almost every metric to consider. I think people don't realize how impressive Lights run was and seem to just discard it with "he had a death god/an advantage". While on the other giving L. every amount of charitability and grace even though Light was dominant between the two regarding there rivalry. Light made just one mistake through the entire rivalry with him and L. and that was in ep 1 or 2 when he killed the man on screen and L. was able to find his location due to that mistake. Other than that Light was never compromised solely of his own mistakes, it would be because of others or him trying to clean the mess of his subordinates. While we have Light literally making L. depressed and almost give up due to Light out smarting L., and a Shinigami threatening to kill Light if he couldn't save Mikasa from her current predicament(essentially fix Mikasa's mistake once again) in which he did btw.
Another one of ryukk intervention is the 13th day rule. It didn't make sense for ryukk to do that, his reasoning literally was that it "spices things up". Light, like you have said, indeed had alot of setbacks but that doesn't really matter as it's part of his own flaws, him thinking that everyone will act exactly as he planned it out, his ego in a sense. L is jepardized by the Kira task force as well, the imprisionment of Light as an example, would have gotten on longer without matsuda and aizawa (there is also the testing of the 13 day rule but I haven't read the manga for a while so can't really speak on that). L knew Light was Kira all along for sure (confirmed in the databook) and just have to proof it, which is challenged by none other than Light with every tool of supernatural nonsense he has under his disposal. It's fair to say that L is not having an easy time like you said, Light didn't just blunder in the early episodes.
@@NormalPerson12391 Lights “set backs” were never due to his own flaws. They were always due to other people actions. You saying it didn’t “make sense” for Ryuk to act the way he did for the 13th day rule isn’t an argument because I can just throw it back at you by applying that to the random and irrational actions by mikasa and her shinigami. His ego was never a problem after he locked in, his ego was only a problem very early on in there rivalry(light and L), we see in the video that Light made that mental adjustment after the first 5eps. L. was absolutely never jeopardized by the police force. Every time the police was used against or an obstacle for L. that was because Light had made it so, due to him manipulating the characters in the show, while Light had to deal with all of Japan essentially from day one. Sure L. Knew Light was Kira but the point is going over your head. Light would’ve killed L. So much sooner in the story if it wasn’t for Lights setback that’s my point. The “game” wouldn’t have been long if it was just Light by himself not being jeopardized the later half of the L arc. The language that you use is so predictable, “which is challenged by none other than Light with every tool of supernatural nonsense he has under his disposal”. The “tools” that Light uses are just tools without the use and finesse of Light himself, I assume you read my gun analogy, the death note cannot act on its own, it’s simply a gun in which light strategically shoots and uses. You say “supernatural” as if it’s an advantage, it’s not. Light never needed, I forget her name(mikasa shinigami) and he never needed Mikami, he had to use them to clean up mikasas mistakes. It goes to show that Light was always smarter than L. not by a lot, but definitely by a noticeable margin. L. always knew that Light was Kira but this isn’t as impressive as you think. Light is always a step ahead never giving L. the evidence he needs to arrest him, Light is always manipulating and keeping the ball in L. court the entire show while being watched 247 by the worlds greatest detective and all of Japan. To be able to act and perform perfectly with nothing but brain power considering all of Lights setbacks and essentially having Batman on your trail is more impressive than having an insane deductive reasoning and suspicion(which I’ll give L. credit, his suspicions were true).
Well…. 1. Ryuk helped to detect ray penber (which light didn’t notice). Gave light the hint Naomi gave an alias, checked cameras as you mentioned, gave the notebook to someone else, erased lights memories whenever he was in a jam, and wrote fake rules. Rem also killed L if he ever got too close. 2. L had access to the world’s resources in ep 1. Then only japans to use in 2. Then when Kira killed the fbi members everyone abandoned him. He was left with a team of 6 detectives to help him. That’s all. Light did have a notebook that could kill magically, and also did indeed know the rules that L didn’t. It’s a far far bigger advantage. Think of how hard it must be to conceive of the explanation being supernatural at all, let alone figure out all the other rules. 3. Lights feat with the planning was impressive af. But his planning was the following: Ryuk will add rules to the notebook, Ryuk will give the book to someone easy to catch, L will set me free and together we will find the person, I will get the notebook in my hand, I will be wearing the same watch and can kill the guy to retain my memories. Ps. Rem helped light again here by telling misa who Kira is. It’s a good plan, but Ls deduction of light to 1 guy out of billions in a few days is significantly more impressive.
@@abdefsdf Definitely agree with some of your points. A lot of people underestimate how much of an advantage that Ryuk actually is. He complied with so many of Light's insane demands, such as creating the fake rules, finding the cameras, etc. Without the interference of shinigami, I think that the series would have ended a lot differently that in originally did, and a lot faster as well.
@@Tetheinvincible Misa not acting according to Light is literally showing his weakness of assuming people will just do perfectly what he says. Yes. Light is very competent with the death note, I never said he wasn't. Saying Light doesn't need supernatural as you put it is just wrong. While he does use it to clear up other's mistake, he still has to use it to manipulate the police in going against each other in order to get close to L, otherwise there is no way at all. Also please explain to me how Light would be able to kill L much sooner, I'm a bit confused on that.(Also I'm missing some other example of Ryukk being an absolute asset, my bad :( The reason why I said L get jeopardized by the KIRA TASK FORCE, not the police as Light, like you said, manipulate them, is to show you how much of an impact they have on L's decision making process. Like the plotline when Matsuda sneaked in the Yotsuba tower, making L has to change his plan in order to salvage the situation. Him having to deal with Light's manipulation have also shown that he isn't sprinting towards victory like you said.
Btw can you please do a vid explaining “K” from L: change the world since I can find any info on the CTW timeline. In fact, why don’t you explain the entirety or L: CTW
L definitely won. He may have lost the battle but he won the war. Guy had a successor just in case he ended up dead making sure his legacy carried on and that’s exactly what happened
L lost but they were playing different games. As far as just solving the case, L won pretty early on, but he wanted total victory. He could have just disappeared Light in theory, but he wanted to assert dominance by proving with irrefutable certainty that Light was guilty (note that this standard of evidence is far higher than what real life courts use). The only condition Light had for victory was "find L's real name in order to kill him," and he was surrounded by allies who had that power (although Ryuk refused to let Light use him).
Considering everytime L either Light backed into a corner, or about to catch him, something would alwaaaaaays happen that would save Light’s dumb ass. And then he wants to turn around and go “huehue I’m so smart I’m a genius I’m like god” when really it was Shinigami’s saving his ass. L won, but plot said no.
I always hated how L was really on the track, but than paranormal comes into play and it all goes to Hell (idk, pun intended?). He got everything correct, partially even the Death God involment, but than again, not knowing their world pretty much lost him the battle. Anyway, he is a Winner in my book
L is clearly smarter, he was so close to proving Kira's identity and he was sure of it, he just couldn't prove it. Being able to almost do it is an impressive feat because he was able to adapt to unknown magical forces, so he is playing at a disadvantage from the start. If they had equal knowledge about the magical forces at the start, L would've easily proven Light is Kira.
Who TRULY Won in your opinion?
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@@latexa2993 lmao
Smartest guy in the world vs luckiest guy in the world.
L lost the battle, won the war.
L is more intelligent. Light is a better manipulator and possessed supernatural assistance. The fact L was able to corner Light so often despite playing at a disadvantage is a testiment to his greater intellect.
@@RealLifeIronManI think they were actually as intelligent. Just not the same intelligence.
Difference between a strategist (L) or a tactician (Light). Not the same thing.
Tacticsbis what make you win a battle. Strategy is what make you win a war.
@@RealLifeIronMan L is probably smarter, but I think it’s closer than most people realize. Light obviously figured L knew he was kira, but successfully fully evaded incriminating himself despite that.
@@sterenn726I definitely agree
@@RealLifeIronMan Light Yagami (Kira):
Intelligence Level: Off the charts! 📚🔍
Why?: Light’s strategic brilliance, meticulous planning, and ability to outwit his opponents make him the ultimate chessmaster in this dark game of life and death. His manipulation of the Death Note and his cat-and-mouse dance with L and Near showcase his genius.
L:
Intelligence Level: A close second! 🕵♂🔎
Why?: L’s deductive reasoning, quirky methods, and relentless pursuit of Kira keep us on the edge of our seats. His analytical mind and obsession with solving the case make him an iconic detective.
L has lost his own battle, but revealed most of the complicated mysterious puzzles in the case to his successors, so they collectively won the war. Personally I prefer the ending of the Japanese movie adaptation more as L sacrificed himself by writing his own name to postpone his death, so Rem couldn't kill him by writing his name again, that's how he drew or tied with Light.
Japanese movies were fire, watched them when i was younger
@@AventSirAvent, you should scale the live actions? 2006 and The Last Name.
Movie Light is so much better, like around Akiyama's level. He killed 562 million people in the first 14 weeks of actively killing as Kira, he anticipated from the start that investigators would first approach the Kira case by recording the time and day of every killing that Kira did and combining it using the Law of Large Numbers. Light kills at seemingly random
times but he had actually been carefully killing to set the schedule as a predictable college student. And other stuff like Naomi Misora strategy.
Also Films L stops his heart temporarily to fake death which is impossible acting skills and some of the best EM in scd
He basically had the case solved. The fact that nobody wanted to test the book with criminals sentenced to death was very convenient. L biggest win was getting Light so cornered he had to concede the most valuable information to fake his innocence: the existence of the Death Note. With that revealed, Kira's position was forever crippled.
I'm sorry but it is so out of his character. The real L would have never sacrificed himself without being certain, and sure he wasn't sure that Rem would have attempted to kill him.
@@brenosulzbacheryou're forgetting that light had let L catch on. L gets nowhere if Light just chose to ignore the initial trap or didn't make it obvious the killer was a student etc.
L is smarter
he was able to outsmart Light several times while dealing with MAGIC Forces he didn't understand
I guess I must have halusinated the parts in the series where he understood these "Magic forces" needed a face and name to kill.
@@HiroIsKheel you know what I mean, L had no clue how Light killed or the true extent of his power.
The only thing he truly knew was face and name were required.
Him figuring that out so early, also shows how smart he is, while Light falls for an obvious trap.
@@devilshooter126m8 L finding out Kira needed a face and a name to kill isn't the genius galaxy brain deduction you think it is. All the criminals Light killed were broadcasted with their name and face, even Matsuda could put two and two together.
The answer, which I see no one talking about, to who truly is smarter is in the Yotsuba arc. The whole arc was just a bunch of episodes proving Light is smarter, Good-Light pulled off way better feats in this arc than L. Showing he's just as or even a better detective than L.
During this arc, Good-Light deduces that Kira can control people and kill them without a heart attack before L does, despite being on the case for way shorter than him. This is way harder to deduce than realising every criminal that died had their name and face publishised. Light even finds the Yotsuba-Kira before L does. Light is constantly shown to be at L's level or higher the whole arc, which kind of makes sense narratively, since he did high diff him in the end.
L has rarely, if ever, actually outsmarted Light. Light had less resources and still won.
@@HiroIsKheel Light was working truly thinking he wasn't Kira, L was trying to piece together why the change in Light was so sudden and drastic (what i mean by "dealing with MAGIC Forces he didn't understand). L reasoning is muddy knowing Light is Kira, while Light is working with a clear slate. That dulled L's detective reasoning, while raising Light's.
Also (i could be wrong haven't watch DN in some time) L knew Kira could kill not using heart attacks, but what he likely didnt know is that the Death Note can sudo warp reality to cause deaths that look like complete accidents, A car just happening being at the right place at the right time for example.
Regardless L knew Light was Kira, the only thing L couldn't do was arrest due to lack of evidence "dealing with MAGIC Forces he didn't understand" pops up again.
but lets say they gave L to act above the Law in efforts to catch Kira, Light would have been arrested very early on.
L figures out Light by Light own mistakes, and criminal profile of Kira L made early on.
Light cheated more, but I guess L would have done the same had he had more time. Anyways, they both lost at what they both ultimately wanted to do, so Ryuk won.
L won. It was like playing a game of chess against a person without knowing the rules. L had to observe his opponent the whole time, gradually understanding how the pieces worked. also imagine having a note book that lets you kill ANYBODY at ANYTIME without leaving any traces behind and still getting caught.
L lost but his protege helped close the case
I think when Light killed Ray, that’s when he narrowed it down to like 6 people max. At that point, it was just a matter of gathering evidence.
@@godserena6059but his protégés were collectively L, this means L won.
@@Ayeee155 If player 1 beats player 2 but player 2 protégés beats player 1 why would player 2 be the victor if they’re dead gone and lost the game? It’s discrediting to the protégés. They won not player 2. He lost
@@godserena6059 I’m sorry but if Near had to start over, he would’ve lost. The protégés directly won because of L.
Let's see what's here. Hope L wins tbh.
I HOPE Kira wins
@@venusjinn4984fight me grandpa
Light is 2 tiers above L
@@Psychoanalyzethat’s a crazy statement
@matijaknezevic4184 it's not at all
People are bias towards L because he's calm and his inner monologs are typically Syllogisms
While Lights inner monologs are typically his feelings or goals
But his "feats" of his intelligence outside of inner monolog reasoning, completely outperform L
Many completely ignore the fact Light was able to manipulate L (in the same scene Lights dad had a heart attack) into questioning if Light was kira, despite L giving him a reasoning test JUST directly before
Light is also able DESTROY Near and Mello, who When working together outperform L, to which Light lost due to 2-3 layers of plot
To be honest. Once rem came I genuinely don’t know how L could ever win. Light essentially just had to make the connection for rem that “if L gets too close it hurts misa”. And rem does the rest. Which was not hard as misa is the second Kira. I feel like L had no way to win after this. L did amazing despite this, and outsmarted light several times. The only reason he wasn’t instantly killed was because of this brilliance, all while not knowing the rules of the game he was playing. So I can’t help but say L was smarter. There can’t really be a discussion about who wins without discussing this cheat code. I agree that light has shown far better feats of manipulation while l better feats of deduction. But 1. If a cheat code like rem was not there I’m convinced L would have won. 2. Ls intelligence was just more impressive to me, I often think imagine evil light was Kira, and good light was L who would win. Could he catch himself? I don’t think so, I don’t think he could even narrow it down to Japan, that requires an incredible amount of psychoanalysis that light never showed. He couldn’t get far at all I think. For me L >light
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It is a very objective conclusion that L would have won without Rem. People view Misa as a liability, but her existence with another Death Note is what allowed Light to get away from the hole he himself dug. If we recap what happened until Misa appearence, L already had Light as his prime suspect. Lights actions didn't gave him much advantage at all. He basically created internal conflics that led multiple people to leave the investigations, but at what cost? Using police information helped L to reduce the whole Kanto region into people with connections to the japanese police. That triggered the FBI agents, that in turn led Light to kill them all and left the search basically to a couple of suspects. And what he had on L after those moves? He's nowhere close to get info on L. In the manga you can see so many little interactions between both and L was all over Light.
And Light masterplan to fake his innocence came with a HUGE price: revealing the Death Note to the world. Lol, L was about to easily solve the case with a couple of hours after acquiring the Death Note. Then everything Mello and Near were able to achieve was because of the rumors of the existence of the note.
@@brenosulzbacher agreed. Another thing that is often not mentioned is that according to the rules, rem only dies if her act of killing someone prolongs the death of the one she loves. The fact that killing L at that moment killed rem means that if rem hadn’t killed L there misas life would have been cut short (L would have caught misa)
@@brenosulzbacher having Light as the prime suspect means nothing compared the the actions of misa. the entire reason that L COULD corner Light at that point was due to misa. unless you can explain how L would have won without misa?
@@bboywolf Dude, L simply went to Light and revealed himself, making it clear he was a huge suspect while also protecting himself from Light. If we use logic, all facts up until then pointed at least towards people that were investigated by the FBI agents.
Oh, so you really think Light would be able to keep this facade for long beign constanly watched by L? At what point would he be able to use wires again, cameras again?
The entire show have so many convenient windows for Light.
- Going to the police in the exact 5-10 minute window of the day that Naomi went (Oh and maybe she could have left her phone number to the receptionists, huh?).
- Like the FBI going to Japan without fake IDs (imagine Ray turning around in the subway "Penber is just an allias, you are under arrest").
- Light knowing about the cameras because of his tricks in the door, which implies that his mom never entered his room in the entire arc.
- L not putting anybody to follow Light as soon as the second Kira talked about how he found Kira, implying he found it, but didn't made contact yet. He conveniently remembered to do so the exact day after Misa went to Light's house.
- The fact that they took Misa into custody for beign the second Kira and L allowed Light to roam unsupervised for a couple of days even though he stated that Light was now their clear prime suspect and that he would want to bring him in too. Why not do it at the exact same time you captured Misa, since you didn't had any connection before between Light and Misa, but now you suddenly discovered that the girl beigns suspect of beign the second Kira knew Light. L could have simply asked for Light to go together, since he was already visiting the task force to "help". L didn't asked since when he knew her, nothing. And we know why: the story would simply end there, because there would be no time to elaborate a plan.
And those are just the quick ones from the top of my head. Like I said, for how long would he be able to keep things, even if we deleted Misa? Light whole thing about getting close to the investigation was hoping he would find something about L or to get his trust. We know as a fact that L never trusted Light the whole story and that Light never came close to finding any clue about L past. Zero, nada. Meanwhile, L closed the gap very quickly. I mean, look at all those things that happened. They did because the story would be boring and would have to end. When people talk about to show and the story is to analyse the good points, but also the incosistencies. In a lot of those inconsistencies we can say they are believable, but extremely lucky, at least. Remove the conveniences of beign the protagonist and not beign able to lose, then think about how things could have unfolded.
when the world needed him most he returned
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1 hour to watch through. W analysis, bro. Will be watching through it.
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L and Light were playing two different difficulty settings. Light simply required that L died, and not even by his own hand. L had to prove that Light was L to a judge. That's going to be a lot harder with all of the supernatural BS flying around. Light obviously "won" but I think calling him "smarter" than L requires something extra.
Light already started off at a disadvantage. he has no training, no experience, no access to money or information like L. that's the only way L could have a chance is if Light handicapped himself. but since we know he did handicap himself we can't brush it off because it was a mistake. it's like twisting your ankle and then acting like it didn't affect a game you play in
L had light at literally every turn. Without the instant win card of rem Light has no way to get his name plain and simple. They were playing on two different difficulty settings L would have to capture and convince people of the supernatural. Light has to kill someone with a book that can kill anyone he had it on easy mode.
Light had spending money.
Not as much as L did. Light bought a small tv, a bag of chips, a bag of apples, the magazine, etc.
@@bboywolf"no access to information" he had access to his dad's computer, who was the chief of the NPA and who personally worked with L, so light did indeed have a lot of information
Great Analysis As Always.
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I’m confused. I’m 30 min in and this seems more like a recap than an analysis
He’s back and with an hour analysis? Another W for Avent!
Plot twist L writes Light's name in the death note
Realistically, if Ryuk didn't inform Light about the detective then L wins almost immediately. Also it was up to Ryuk a second time to find the cameras and such although light would have known there was tampering, but if the shinigami wasn't uncharacteristically helpful for those 2 events then light would have been exposed very early on since light would also have never known when the surveillance was removed.
I wish Light would have noticed this before Ryuk told him and Light is like I know.
@@CameronClark-rt7dm honestly if you think about it, light says he thinks they expected some cameras to be found. If he/his sister/his mother did find some (which is never explored) they'd have talked to each other about why there are random cameras since none of them were included to the plan. An ordinary person would likely remove the cameras and potentially call the police, so deliberately not mentioning to his little sister that there are cameras in places like her bedroom and bathroom is more suspicious than doing nothing in my opinion.
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After 3 whole weeks! The GOAT is back
Wow, It's a masterpiece.. Literally a movie 🤯
Bro came back with an hour long banger? I will be watching through
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4th attempt
Could L solve the Sadako Murders? Basically with the scenario from 1998’s Ringu (or Ring) could L
A. Solve the case and deduce Sadako is an Onryō performing these supernatural killings
B. Somehow figure out about the “you must copy the tape to avoid being killed” rule, which the investigators in the movie failed to find out about and got one of them killed
L would effectively have infinite time to prep/investigate until he finds and watches the tape. Then he has only 7 days.
Idk man i think Avent would win.
Light won but still doesnt mean that L was a fool, light couldnt get rid of L.
Light didn’t win the battle of minds. rem killed L. Light didn’t even figure out L’s real identity while he was a live.
Guys you all should realise that the fact Rem died after writing L's name ,if light didn't use the cheat code of rem to kill L. L would have solved the kira case and then executed light and misa as first and second kira. Thus it killed rem and expanded misa's life span .
lol yeah this is really all there is to it
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I would have said Light. L died and was unable to prove his case. Maybe Light had an unfair advantage but he was successful.
@l.pricetag.5207 you must have your literary comprehension stats set to zero because the author explained how it would have turned out if L didn't get killed. Even then, that's not a Light W. Just an L loss. If that other Shinigami wouldn't have been there that entire scene wouldn't have happened.
Equal advantage L had, authority over the FBI, Kirae task force, the international police and even had Millions of dollars and resources from Watari. How far could L have gone in the investigation without these?
@@HiroIsKheel
In the end even if the whole world is facing him, it's still unfair. You're eventually talking about humans vs supernatural human (Not a simple supernatural power but GODlevel!!!) so calling that an equal advantage when the god level power is equal to what you've just mentioned (Impossible this is a joke actually). So Light's loss in the end is because of his ego and impulsiveness, he could've used the shinigami eyes but he refused because of his ego, and even if he won, that doesn't mean he's smarter because of what I've just mentioned. L did more than any human could do against a man with a god power.
@@Dr_Abdo_Ahmed I guess I see where your coming from but lol, screaming "God level" implies Light had an inconceivable amount of power, when in reality the deathnote just gives the user a method of killing individuals who's name and face you know and aswell as manipulating their actions before death.
And the manipulation aspect of the Deathnote isn't as broken as you think, there's rules in it that nerf its manipulation like...
People not being able to be manipulated into doing things they wouldn't otherwise normally do, aswell as anything that is physically and logically impossible, aswell as doing any actions that would lead to the death of others.
If you think about this this nerf is significant, means light can't just manipulate Matsuda to kill L or something. Light even thought of doing something like this in part 2 of Deathnote but trashed that whole line of thinking because of the reasons I stated earlier.
The Deathnote doesn't make Light an Omnipotent God, capable of insta-killing anyone he pleases like you imply. It's actually comparable to a sniper irl, if you actually think about it lol. Light still had to come up with the strategies, plans and avoid L's traps to win, not to mention he had to make sure Misa didn't get herself aswell as himself caught, which is another nerf he got.
Do you still think it was unfair, even after you contrast this to L's vast Funds and resources, authority over the FBI, Interpol and multiple Police forces, even in different countries. Aswell as Watari, don't forget Watari 😭🙏. No joke Watari is cracked asf.
@@HiroIsKheel
Misa is nerf?!! Yes, she was truly stupid, but man aren't (most) of L's associates stupid, too. At least Misa isn't as stupid as Matsuda😂. (I'm just joking here)
To be serious, actually, without Misa and her so loyal emotion-controlled shinigami, Light wouldn't have been able to kill L at all due to his own restriction not to use the eyes.
And yes, when you talk about superpower like that, even if restricted by rules, but still beyond human realization. all humans are nothing against this hidden illogical power, especially with eyes that enable you to see their names.
I agree with you that L really has multiple resources, but it was clear that Rem's role is totally unfair. Even L's winning in the timeline of the Japanese movie adaptation, he didn't expect that Rem is going to do it, though because simply it's not logical at all. A god is emotionally manipulated by a human?!! I bet that Ryuk himself couldn't accept or realize that😅
If L wasn’t “restrained” by law and the police and had managed to catch Light unprepared, he would probably easily proved Light guilty.
He was right the whole time. Just hadn’t the means to prove it.
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I think it's clear that if rem wasn't a factor, L would win.
but rem was a factor, so Light won
Team L. Obviously.
I first watched deathnote in 2022- from that time - i went through countless comparisons between lawliet and light - to find out was smarter, but no satisfying answer came out but here below is my study:
When analyzing the intelligence and capabilities of L and Light Yagami from "Death Note," it's essential to consider various perspectives and contexts. Numerous outcomes and debates exist regarding who is superior, with some arguments favoring L and others Light. Additionally, the "Change the World" version of L (CTWL) is often considered the strongest, adding another layer of complexity.
Raw Intelligence and Analytical Ability:
L: L's skills in deduction, induction, reasoning, and his analytical prowess are exceptional. He operates with a high level of intuition and logical reasoning, often able to draw conclusions from minimal evidence. His ability to psychoanalyze and understand the mind of his opponents is unparalleled.
Social Intelligence and Manipulation:
Light Yagami: Light's strength lies in his ability to manipulate others and his understanding of social dynamics. He excels in strategic planning and using emotional intelligence to exploit people's weaknesses. His ability to create and execute long-term plans while staying steps ahead of his opponents showcases his strategic genius.
Willpower and Determination:
Light Yagami: Light’s relentless pursuit of his goals and willingness to take extreme measures to achieve them is a testament to his strong willpower. This drive often gives him an edge in high-stakes situations.
Broader Perspective:
In a broader perspective, both L and Light are geniuses in their respective domains. L excels in intellectual rigor and logical deduction, while Light excels in social manipulation and strategic planning. They represent two sides of intelligence that are not easily comparable because they function in different dimensions.
Overall Conclusion:
L is unmatched in raw intelligence, analytical skills, and psychoanalytical abilities.
Light Yagami surpasses in social intelligence, manipulation, and strategic execution.
If forced to choose one based on a broader perspective of intelligence, it might lean slightly toward L for his exceptional deductive skills and raw intellectual power. However, recognizing the multidimensional nature of intelligence, it's fair to acknowledge that both L and Light are geniuses in their own right, each excelling in different areas. This nuanced view respects the complexity of their characters and the diverse forms of intelligence they embody
Spectrum of Intelligence
Acknowledging the multidimensional nature of intelligence, both L and Light are geniuses in their own right. They excel in different areas, making a binary comparison inadequate. It's more accurate to view their capabilities on a spectrum:
Near vs. Light Yagami: Light outsmarts Near, demonstrating a more considerable difference in their abilities.
L vs. Light Yagami: Both have strengths that make them undefeatable in specific situations. L in analytical prowess and Light in social strategy.
in the end it's more like saying - Python vs Rust (L vs Light ) - both are good for ML so a single answer cannot come but instead we need a spectrum
but when it comes to Python vs C (L vs mello) - python takes upper hand because it has upper hand in ML
Honestly if they were actual detectives working together they would be unstoppable
Light is the social one with connections and the ability to manipulate people into getting what he wants, L is the observer, and will instead watch from the sidelines
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so thats what you've been cooking
L is the better detective. Light had more power
Honestly, L was smarter than light but light won because of his advantages
love this
woahh was not expecting that Red John reference 😭 i thought i was the only one obsessed with the mentalist
bro always makes big W analysis vid
Light only "won" because of Rem
well of course, he used what he had to his advantage.
intelligence is knowing how to leverage the scenario to your advantage
@@Evren_ My point is that has nothing to do with Light's intelligence. It was only about protecting Misa. And a supernatural advantage also has nothing to do with Light's intelligence.
@creativevisiongaming not really. His ability to manipulate the scenario to get rid of both L and Rem, his biggest threats.
Sure, if Rem wasn't there, Light would've had less to work with, but thats an entirely different scenario, we don't know what would've happened.
Both are vastly intelligent, but disregarding Light's manipulation of the situation is ridiculous.
@@Evren_ Rem wasn't manipulated. Rem probably would have killed L anyway even if Light was not involved
@creativevisiongaming because Light told misa to start killing again.
Light wanted rem to kill L.
Rem tells Light that she'd kill anybody to protect misa
Light tells Misa to start killing again, with the knowledge that L will begin catching on.
Light knows that L closing in on Misa is a risk to her, therefore knowing Rem will kill L, and therefore die herself by extending Misa's life via saving her.
All of this is shown in the show.
Hannibal would be unstoppable with the death note
"hey light since nobody seems to be home, how about we play a game of mario golf?" Ryuk the death god of gaming
I FW with your videos heavy
no matter how many years pass.
death note analysis i see, death note analysis i watch ‼️‼️
about to watch: hoping L wins
Great video and I agree with you also can you do the same for movies Light and CTW L?
Love the mentalist reference, great, underrated show!
Interesting title. I like Death Note. I guess I'll check it out and then add it to my watch later for tomorro- oh it's over and it's 5 AM
i think L was smarter, and i just feel like he knew but wanted concrete evidence that light was kira. idk i think L like wins in a sense but Light technically won
I actually disagree with who TRULY won, because neither actually won their game. Light was unable to get a name, L was unable to convict Light. Both of them set up things that would defeat the other.
Light goal was to get rid of L whether he has name or not. Making him the winner
@@godserena6059I would say Lights main goal was the get rid of L. His secondary goal was to get his name until he found a way to get rid of him without getting his name. So Light won but his means to win changed to win.
@@godserena6059true but the mental battle at its core was getting the name vs proving guilty and neither won that battle.
Light fans lets get assemble 🙌🏻👑🍷
1)What if the person whose name was written in the Death Note was? Would they just die of a heart attack?
•In a coma.
•Dying.
•Being operated on.
•In outer space: Space Station, on a moon, on another planet, in a space shuttle, etc
Matsuda wins, end of debate
Just starting to watch the video, but I want to share my thoughts before starting:
L won. Both of them played well, but there is a key difference. L didn't care for his personal safety. Losing his life was not the same loss as it was to Light.
To observe who won we would need to see what their goals were going into this.
L wanted Kira caught and stop his killings. Light wanted to permanently change the world as the god of the new world.
While Lights work turned on its head once he was gone, Ls goal was fullfilled, even if not by his own hand.
L dying was losing a battle, not the war.
U do that thing bret does where he whispers into his chest lol
Hello Avent, I am your viewer from Turkey and your videos are great. I recently read the DEATH NOTE short stories manga and I was very confused because I wondered if there was a solution to the A-kira case. A-Who can solve the Kira case? Can you make a video about this or is it possible to solve it? Since my English is not good, I wrote it with the help of translation, I hope it is not wrong.
@@aizensosuke-z7y Hey! Got a video covering that short story next or a bit after the next upload! Coming soon
FINALLYYYYYY
My own head canon back in the day was anyone who dealt with Shinigami or interfered with their plans, usually got their cards marked so Ls downfall was really because he messed up the fun the Shinigami were having with Beyond Birthday using his eyes. Although the Death Note sequel ruins that head canon cause Shinigami get revealed to the wider world and the Shinigami King just outright cheeses Minoru
Viedeo about the mentalist could be Juice
From which nation u r avent?
I think L is smarter, but Light has the advantage in the way he manipulates people around him. It’s just that it didn’t work on L, but light quite literally had everyone else fooled completely even in the face of evidence.
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@AventSir Have you ever read Usogui? You should make a video on the characters of Usogui vs Death Note.
My first thoughts just started was L was going against Super natural forces and possible Police Corruption And Still Knew who His Suspect was While L Could Not Close his Case However His Successor Was able too
You know how L found out that he was in Japan the L Pember thing where it was only in his local area. Why didn’t he keep doing that to eventually where only light can see certain criminals names and if those criminals were killed then it’s proof.
after 3 weeks peak fiction has returned
King
If Rae Pember hadn’t shut down his fiance when she immediately found the bus jacking incident suspicious maybe they could have worked together to crack the case.
1)English words confused with other English words:
•Bo+red=bored: Light is bored and needs something to do
•Boar+d=board: piece of wood. Board game.
•Their time has come
•There is a time and a place for everything.
•They’re over it. They are over it.
•Feet 👣is plural of foot 🦶🏻
System of measurement.
•Feat: achievement
•Poll. Hilary Clinton wanted to get Pokémon to go the poll to vote.
•Pole: Flag pole, fishing pole or rod.
•Tear: shed a tear. Tear rip up.
•Tare: seed of vetch. the weight of the container
•Sight: see with one’s eyes.
•Site: Location of the treasure on the map.
•To: to be or not to be that is the question.
•Too: Never too much.
•Quiet: Quiet on set.
•Quite: Quite right you are Holmes.
•Your: Your time has come.
•You’re/You are: You’re right on the nose. You are correct Mr. Bond.
•Die: I expect u to die Mr. Bond.
•Dye. They dyed the river green for St.Patrick’s day
•Dying to meet you.
•Dieing/dyeing my hair purple.
•Tale as old as time.
•Tails: A horse has a tail.
•Layer: onions and ogres have layers.
•Lair: Den. Hide out
•Golf Tee
•Drink Tea
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1:16:23 my brother and i quote this scene all the time "iS hE sTuPiD⁇" lmao
According to the automated elevator voice when I get to ground level, L Won
I'd win
banger
Light is clearly smarter and beat L at his own game. L was written to just magically always know what Light's plans were with no real way for him to actually come to those conclusions. Meanwhile Light still managed to triumph even with all of Ls plot armor.
Yes it was very plausible from the second the note book was "revealed" if we're being real, and far more likely the second time it got revealed. Light literally revealed everything about the notebook because he is arrogant.
Taking away the shinigami from light is like taking away L's obscene wealth. They both jar "unfair" advantages over each other however one used every possible way to win and the other didn't
Light won but L is wayy smarter.
L-IQ190-220
Light IQ-175-180
Search Light yagami vs Ayanakouji. I explain everything there. in Near vs mello vs Light, i also explain there.
Both has an IQ of 211 according to google
@@Blazeinferno1000 Google's estimates aren't in any way satisfactory and so are the methods threreof. There isn't really detailed criterion for such estimation other than the chart I presented by 'Elliott Kelley', on quora, who funny enough is also a super genius.
Light Yagami (Kira):
Intelligence Level: Off the charts! 📚🔍
Why?: Light’s strategic brilliance, meticulous planning, and ability to outwit his opponents make him the ultimate chessmaster. His manipulation of the Death Note and the cat-and-mouse game with L showcase his genius.
Advantage: Light had the supernatural advantage of the Death Note and Misa’s Shinigami eyes, which allowed him to triumph.
L:
Intelligence Level: A close second! 🕵♂🔎
Why?: L’s deductive reasoning, quirky methods, and relentless pursuit of Kira keep us on the edge of our seats. His analytical mind and obsession with solving the case make him an iconic detective.
Resourcefulness: L hires experts (like Aiber and Wedy) and operates from a dedicated HQ, utilizing police forces worldwide.
Verdict:
Light wins this battle of wits, but that doesn’t mean L was a fool. L’s genius lies in his planning skills, deduction, and eye for detail. He’s the quintessential detective, even if he didn’t have the supernatural edge.
So, in the grand showdown of brains, both Light and L shine brightly-each with their unique strengths and approaches. It’s like comparing apples and oranges, but with more death notes! 🍎📝🍊
Hey can we get the vid of xan Aayanakoji catch johan
I Believe Light to be smarter and to have come out victories between the two. Light never had the "advantage" to the degree that people make it out to seem. The death note is nothing but a gun, while Light is the shooter. The only time the death note/Ryuk intervened and actually helped Light throughout the story, is when he counted the cameras in Lights rooms when L. had bugged it. But even with this, Light already knew that L. had bugged the room, he just didn't know where and how many cameras there were. Light wouldn't have gotten caught, just would've had to deal with the cameras in a more difficult way. The death note isn't an advantage, its simply a tool that Light uses in a genius manner to do as he pleases. We see what it would look like when the "death note" is in the hands of someone incompetent(Mikasa), Similar to JJK when regarding the likes of Gojo and why he`s the "strongest". He`s the strongest because he`s Satoru Gojo, he`s not Satoru Gojo because he`s the strongest. We see another character(Yuta) with his arsenal and gifts and he doesn't perform nearly as well because Gojo spent his entire life mastering his gifts and powers to a degree that no other person even if they had his same powers could achieve. Its the same with Light no other person could do what he did with the death note at least not with his finesse and efficiency. People love to argue that L. was "playing a game in which he didn't even know the rules to". This isn't convincing considering the "game" wouldn't have been NEARLY as close if L. didn't have the resources of ALL of Japan and Light wasn't being jeopardized and costed the entire show by 3rd parties such as Mikasa and her Shinigami, and Mikami(the delete guy). Light has to spend the later half of there rivalry cleaning up the mistakes of other characters. L. is the one who had the advantage truly, he had the resources of all of japan, and didn't have characters in the show getting his way at every turn on the road to victory. I think the most impressive feat in terms of IQ in the entire show is when Light planned an entire 3 months ahead predicting the moves of just about every character in the show(helicopter scene), I personally haven't seen a feat from L. that's remotely as impressive than that. Don't get me wrong I think Light and L. are neck and neck just with Light having a slight advantage in almost every metric to consider. I think people don't realize how impressive Lights run was and seem to just discard it with "he had a death god/an advantage". While on the other giving L. every amount of charitability and grace even though Light was dominant between the two regarding there rivalry. Light made just one mistake through the entire rivalry with him and L. and that was in ep 1 or 2 when he killed the man on screen and L. was able to find his location due to that mistake. Other than that Light was never compromised solely of his own mistakes, it would be because of others or him trying to clean the mess of his subordinates. While we have Light literally making L. depressed and almost give up due to Light out smarting L., and a Shinigami threatening to kill Light if he couldn't save Mikasa from her current predicament(essentially fix Mikasa's mistake once again) in which he did btw.
Another one of ryukk intervention is the 13th day rule. It didn't make sense for ryukk to do that, his reasoning literally was that it "spices things up". Light, like you have said, indeed had alot of setbacks but that doesn't really matter as it's part of his own flaws, him thinking that everyone will act exactly as he planned it out, his ego in a sense. L is jepardized by the Kira task force as well, the imprisionment of Light as an example, would have gotten on longer without matsuda and aizawa (there is also the testing of the 13 day rule but I haven't read the manga for a while so can't really speak on that). L knew Light was Kira all along for sure (confirmed in the databook) and just have to proof it, which is challenged by none other than Light with every tool of supernatural nonsense he has under his disposal. It's fair to say that L is not having an easy time like you said, Light didn't just blunder in the early episodes.
@@NormalPerson12391 Lights “set backs” were never due to his own flaws. They were always due to other people actions. You saying it didn’t “make sense” for Ryuk to act the way he did for the 13th day rule isn’t an argument because I can just throw it back at you by applying that to the random and irrational actions by mikasa and her shinigami. His ego was never a problem after he locked in, his ego was only a problem very early on in there rivalry(light and L), we see in the video that Light made that mental adjustment after the first 5eps.
L. was absolutely never jeopardized by the police force. Every time the police was used against or an obstacle for L. that was because Light had made it so, due to him manipulating the characters in the show, while Light had to deal with all of Japan essentially from day one.
Sure L. Knew Light was Kira but the point is going over your head. Light would’ve killed L. So much sooner in the story if it wasn’t for Lights setback that’s my point. The “game” wouldn’t have been long if it was just Light by himself not being jeopardized the later half of the L arc. The language that you use is so predictable, “which is challenged by none other than Light with every tool of supernatural nonsense he has under his disposal”. The “tools” that Light uses are just tools without the use and finesse of Light himself, I assume you read my gun analogy, the death note cannot act on its own, it’s simply a gun in which light strategically shoots and uses. You say “supernatural” as if it’s an advantage, it’s not. Light never needed, I forget her name(mikasa shinigami) and he never needed Mikami, he had to use them to clean up mikasas mistakes.
It goes to show that Light was always smarter than L. not by a lot, but definitely by a noticeable margin. L. always knew that Light was Kira but this isn’t as impressive as you think. Light is always a step ahead never giving L. the evidence he needs to arrest him, Light is always manipulating and keeping the ball in L. court the entire show while being watched 247 by the worlds greatest detective and all of Japan. To be able to act and perform perfectly with nothing but brain power considering all of Lights setbacks and essentially having Batman on your trail is more impressive than having an insane deductive reasoning and suspicion(which I’ll give L. credit, his suspicions were true).
Well….
1. Ryuk helped to detect ray penber (which light didn’t notice). Gave light the hint Naomi gave an alias, checked cameras as you mentioned, gave the notebook to someone else, erased lights memories whenever he was in a jam, and wrote fake rules. Rem also killed L if he ever got too close.
2. L had access to the world’s resources in ep 1. Then only japans to use in 2. Then when Kira killed the fbi members everyone abandoned him. He was left with a team of 6 detectives to help him. That’s all. Light did have a notebook that could kill magically, and also did indeed know the rules that L didn’t. It’s a far far bigger advantage. Think of how hard it must be to conceive of the explanation being supernatural at all, let alone figure out all the other rules.
3. Lights feat with the planning was impressive af. But his planning was the following:
Ryuk will add rules to the notebook,
Ryuk will give the book to someone easy to catch, L will set me free and together we will find the person, I will get the notebook in my hand, I will be wearing the same watch and can kill the guy to retain my memories. Ps. Rem helped light again here by telling misa who Kira is. It’s a good plan, but Ls deduction of light to 1 guy out of billions in a few days is significantly more impressive.
@@abdefsdf Definitely agree with some of your points. A lot of people underestimate how much of an advantage that Ryuk actually is. He complied with so many of Light's insane demands, such as creating the fake rules, finding the cameras, etc. Without the interference of shinigami, I think that the series would have ended a lot differently that in originally did, and a lot faster as well.
@@Tetheinvincible Misa not acting according to Light is literally showing his weakness of assuming people will just do perfectly what he says.
Yes. Light is very competent with the death note, I never said he wasn't. Saying Light doesn't need supernatural as you put it is just wrong. While he does use it to clear up other's mistake, he still has to use it to manipulate the police in going against each other in order to get close to L, otherwise there is no way at all. Also please explain to me how Light would be able to kill L much sooner, I'm a bit confused on that.(Also I'm missing some other example of Ryukk being an absolute asset, my bad :(
The reason why I said L get jeopardized by the KIRA TASK FORCE, not the police as Light, like you said, manipulate them, is to show you how much of an impact they have on L's decision making process. Like the plotline when Matsuda sneaked in the Yotsuba tower, making L has to change his plan in order to salvage the situation. Him having to deal with Light's manipulation have also shown that he isn't sprinting towards victory like you said.
Btw can you please do a vid explaining “K” from L: change the world since I can find any info on the CTW timeline.
In fact, why don’t you explain the entirety or L: CTW
Can you make a, could near catch bb vid
L definitely won. He may have lost the battle but he won the war. Guy had a successor just in case he ended up dead making sure his legacy carried on and that’s exactly what happened
In your opinion, who is physically the strongest among characters like Ayankoji, Yuuji Kazami, etc? (Exclude characters like baki)
L surely won the war even though he lost the battle
L won from him finding him in Japan he knew light was guilty but he couldn't arrest him without knowing how he killed
Suggestion: can Mello catch Near, with Near being kira?
L lost but they were playing different games. As far as just solving the case, L won pretty early on, but he wanted total victory. He could have just disappeared Light in theory, but he wanted to assert dominance by proving with irrefutable certainty that Light was guilty (note that this standard of evidence is far higher than what real life courts use). The only condition Light had for victory was "find L's real name in order to kill him," and he was surrounded by allies who had that power (although Ryuk refused to let Light use him).
2:45 imagine he didn't get it right until the fifth try, so the series just ends because the guy lives 🤣
L negs light is overrated
Considering everytime L either Light backed into a corner, or about to catch him, something would alwaaaaaays happen that would save Light’s dumb ass. And then he wants to turn around and go “huehue I’m so smart I’m a genius I’m like god” when really it was Shinigami’s saving his ass. L won, but plot said no.
I hope light wins
I always hated how L was really on the track, but than paranormal comes into play and it all goes to Hell (idk, pun intended?). He got everything correct, partially even the Death God involment, but than again, not knowing their world pretty much lost him the battle.
Anyway, he is a Winner in my book
L won the second he died. He knew that if he died light would get caught all he did was trying to prove it without being killed.
L is clearly smarter, he was so close to proving Kira's identity and he was sure of it, he just couldn't prove it. Being able to almost do it is an impressive feat because he was able to adapt to unknown magical forces, so he is playing at a disadvantage from the start. If they had equal knowledge about the magical forces at the start, L would've easily proven Light is Kira.
L knew from the start lol its light's dads fault who didnt want he's little son to be put behind bar's or executed for hes crimes. L is Justice