Ep. 16 How to Tune a Floor Tom
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2018
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Not surprisingly, floor toms are a different beast in comparison to rack toms when it comes to tuning. The depth of the drum affects the relationship between batter and reso heads and the alternative mounting system alters how the drum moves.
In this episode, we provide an overview for basic tom tuning with a 14x14" floor tom with an Evans UV1 batter and Evans G1 coated reso. Keep an eye out for a detailed videos on achieving specific tom sounds with various head and tuning combinations in the future.
Drum Used: Precision Drum Company 14x14" Maple 8-lug w/Die cast hoops on top and bottom
Batter Head: Evans UV1
Reso Head: Evans G1 Coated
Jojo Mayer performance video referenced: • Video
Hosted by: Cody Rahn
Production: Ben O'Brien Smith @ Cadence Independent Media
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love some good middle of the road head
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I really appreciate how these videos are really thorough without being pretentious or long-winded. Props to the entire team over there and thanks for the good content!
Thanks so much for the kind words! Glad to hear that you're enjoying the series.
Just found this channel a couple days ago and was instantly hooked. Love what you guys are doing here 👌🏼
Thanks Austin! That really means a lot to us coming from a UA-camr such as yourself! We'd be grateful for anything you can do to help spread the word about the channel. Cheers and thanks for watching!
For sure... I just posted a link to your first video in my Community tab. Keep up the good work!
You literally taught me how to tune my tom from rock to jazz
It is so refreshing to see someone who not only knows what he's talking about but who is articulate in his presentation. There's so many instructional videos that seemed to be geared at an audience of 15 year old crack heads with lots of money. No lame metal track in the background, no clown trying desperatly to be hip, just a guy relating his experiences and what works best for him in the hope it might help somebody looking for answers. Thank you.
Indeed I agree. Well presented, clear and to the point!
Agree
I never had a kit with die cast hoops, and very quickly realized that you don't tune a drum with die cast hoops the same way as you would one with triple flange hoops. Drums with die cast hoops are lot more sensitive and begin to tune up with just a tiny hair of a turn of the tension rod. It's a lot more work, but the upside is that they stay in tune longer. I hope you guys feature a segment with the difference in tuning between die cast and triple flange hoops. Once again, awesome lesson !
Great video guys! I’ve been playing drums for roughly 7 years and I learned so much watching your videos! Great stuff, and me and I’m sure many other drummers really appreciate what you guys are doing here!
I think it’s hilarious that for most of my drumming life I have played with my floor tom tuned to “growl”. I have recently purchased a TAMA Starclassic Bubinga kit and have tuned it more “properly” to give a fuller tone. I’m glad that there are videos like this that explain the tuning I used to do and encourage a different approach that gives a more sustainable sound.
They got a guy in my area selling the tama bubinga in a red oyster, was it worth it? Bubinga wood is very expensive, an insight to the set you had would help. Thanks I’m advance 🤘🏻
These are without a doubt the best drum tuning videos on UA-cam!
Thanks, Tom! We appreciate it.
i clicked on the video, first clicked the like button and then watched it. I think that you guys have the most realistic sound as a video can be. second, you guys are chill. third, i love how detailed the whole thing is, so much information, example the calf skin video. i subscribed a few days ago and watched like.. the whole channel, haha.
Thank you so much! That really means a lot. So glad to hear that you’re enjoying the channel. Cheers!
Great advice on not needing to crack the head when putting new drum heads on. I've always thought that's what you do! Saves a step!
Thanks, man. I could have used these videos fifty years ago! It was purely trial and error, but you's keep trying things like you said. I have several kits, but the one that gives me the best response is my 80's Gretsch. It has an 18 inch floor tom and when I get that monster tuned up it hits you in the gut. Good stuff!
Need to hear more of it once it is tuned. I'd like to be able to hear the pitch and see what kind of rebound you are getting.
My problem is achieving the low pitch I'm after. I get absolutely no bounce back from the stick.
I sacrifice just about all rebound.
It seemed like that's the trade-off and you can't have it both ways. But you are showing you CAN and without much if any internal or external muffling.
This is a great Channel, thank you
I really enjoy and appriciate ur videos. Super informative and they look nice as well. Keep it up my friend.
Great video. Tuning is something that I need all the help with I can get. There is always something new to learn. . Thanks for breaking it down and making it easy .
Cheers, Gary!
The time-lapse hats are great
Excellent video! Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you for showing that last one. I've been having trouble with my floor tom and couldn't figure out what was going wrong. You hit the nail on the head with the Doppler comment.
continue to be the best drum content on the internet hands down...
... and I love that someone "thumbs downed" the video ... as if Cody is not spitting absolute diamonds ... hilarious
Hahahah, I think "spitting absolute diamonds" is the finest compliment I've ever received! I'm gonna have a T-shirt made, I swear LOL
Another great episode! Very valuable!
6:40 beautiful tone! Great video. Thanks.
MAN I wish I found this channel a long time ago. Great work
Very nice videos! At first I thought they were too long, but now I find them very fun and educatives. Keeñ the good work!! Cheers from Chile!
Glad you're enjoying the depth and detail included in each one. Cheers!
Thank you so much for the musical reference notes! Great video as always!
Cheers! Glad that it was helpful.
That last tuning was awesome!
Thanks for this, great info here. Always the hardest drum to tune for me!
I've heard a floor tom do that very prominent pitch shift before and I was very curious! Great info!
thanks for this video. i was havin a issue with my floor tom making the ton you had at the very end and it helped me figure out why i couldnt get it tuned right.
Awesome! So glad it helped :)
Thanks a lot! Greetings from Poland!
These are amazing drum videos.. Never have I seen someone with so much knowledge who is able to keep it simple.. Awesome thank you :)
Glad you’re enjoying the series! Help us spread the word about the channel by sharing these videos with your drummer friends.
Another great piece of education/info.
For the 1st time in my life I went to a single ply batter. UV1 coated over G1 on Starclassic Bubinga. WOW!!! I'm going to be using the UV1 batter heads a whole lot more!
Greatest drum channel on UA-cam!
you have the coolest opening musical intro for a drum talk video. right down to the sound of sticks falling on the floor. LOL. I really like your final tune. I might go slightly tighter on the batter head in the end result. that being said, I really enjoyed your content here. following you now.
Hey Gordon! Thanks so much- we had a fun time with that. We've got LOTS of videos for you and lots more demonstration content throughout Season Two we just released Ep. 16 of Season Two today). Enjoy and help spread the word to your drummer friends. Cheers! -Ben
Fantastic tips!
Drumistry rewatching many of these videos. When you hand muffle the opposite head when you are checking pitches:
Where are you touching in relation to the rim/center?
How much of your hand is muffling?
How much pressure do you use?
Great video 🥁👍🥁!
like your style....again my thanks
I must say that as a non harmonic expert but drumming for several decades,
I recently finally found my way with using fingers + drum dial (circular balance between lugs) + tunebot (final pitch tuning) + ear combination for tuning my toms and I just achieved
really pleasing sound on almost any drums I encounter. Takes time and might sound like a geeky thing but really efficient way.
Great video as usual! You have a much sharper ear than me :)
At the end of the day, whatever works for you is great. We strongly encourage practicing ear training and developing your sense of pitch for tuning just as you would develop any other performance skill. That's one of the key reasons why you don't see any such devices in our videos.
you're totally right, but I also noticed that having a pitch tuner also helped my ear learning what the appropriate pitch is (more or less ^^)
sometimes I tell myself, imagine a guitar player without a tuner, granted he should know how to tune a guitar without but that would still feel awkward for him to never use one...
Sounds like sound Tom tuning tips to me!
Really dug the growl! LOL!
I like the first tuning sound
My drums finally sound good. Thank you guys!
So glad to hear it! Lots more covered in the rest of our episodes. Looking forward to some exciting new things in 2019 as well. -Ben
The final tuning with the growling effect reminded me of the "tom" sound on the first half of "Suspiria Theme" song by Goblin, cool effect!! (Probably on that one, they did the opposite: they tuned the batter head extreme high and the bottom extreme low...)
I love the phrases Cody uses, like “horsing around”. I’m not sure if that’s a commonly used phrase in the US, but you definitely don’t hear it in Australia very often these days. Those little things add to the videos :)
I’m feeling very called out because that “growl” sound is how my floor Tom has sounded for years now and I thought that’s how they were supposed to sound haha
Great channel.
Thanks for watching!
Interesting when you got the pitch to around Bb on the floor tom it just felt right for jazz big band. The fundamentals being Bb and Eb for a lot of horns.
Patiently waiting for that kick drum tuning tutorial
It's coming! We've got a few more videos in the queue but there will likely be a couple of kick drum videos (and a couple of kick drums!).
I like your first tuning sound (medium tension on reso, finger tight on batter), sounds great. Might shorten the life of an Evans head, but this won’t be the case with a coated Remo Emperor 😉
Loose batter heads will always be more susceptible to wear and tear, regardless of brand. That's actually something we covered in our latest episode.
I have an early 80's Tama Imperial Star kit with an 18" floor tom. It has always been unruly. I've never really been satisfied with the sound from it. This video might help.
Great video. I tune all my drums pretty tight reso loosey goose batter. Sounds dirty on big drums.
Man i love your videos, so informative! Is there any way you could make a video detailing the "pinging" sound upon the attack? I suppose its the over inflated "basketball" sound people talk about. Have always had this very prominent in my 16" floor regardless of tuning scheme. Muffling doesn't seem to help and actually seems to make the ping more prominent as it's not buried under the resonance of the drum. Thanks so much for your videos!
18 people think they're "drummers".. They're not.
They're actually bass players posing as drummers.😂
I use (again) last tuning method but with heavy heads on top and bottom.
Hey Cody,
I recently went back to these older videos to get some reference on how to tune my new 14"x12" rack tom. It's Mapex Saturn maple/walnut hybrid shell with a two-point lug-mounted suspension, clamped to my right-hand ride cymbal stand. Now I'm wondering: should I pay more attention to this video because of the size of my tom (despite it being a rack tom and not having legs) or would you suggest using the rack tom advice because of the way it is mounted, regardless of its size? I'm generally not bad at tuning and I have a good ear, but I was hoping to get that extra piece of advice only you guys can deliver! 🙂
Cheers, love all your videos!
Super useful tips! I discovered your Chanel recently and watched all the videos. Only you could play a little more than just tapping the drums here and there? Not in a crazy way but just to get a better picture of the actual sound. That'd be great!
Glad you're enjoying it! We'll work to get more contextual demonstration in these videos in the future. Thanks for the feedback!
I tune the bottom heads a slightly above (maybe a 2nd) the lowest point they can go, then I tune the top to a pitch I like that sounds good with other drums and then I adjust the bottom for resonance and timbre. I usualy tune the bottoms on floor toms higher since the drums need to project up toward the stage and the tom bottoms I leave low because they project forward. With bass drums I tune the front head way up and the batter head according to pitch. The front high is the way to go, you get quick response and bright resonance that returns the sound to the microphone thats inside the drum and you will get beautiful tone when playing softly. The drum will be loud and punchy but very responsive and rich sounding.
I'm really loving all of your guys' videos so far! I'm glad there's finally a channel doing all the things I've always wanted to see (especially the side by side stuff with explanations). I was just wondering if you could maybe help me out with getting a floor tom sound like Benny Greb? It sounds so monstrous everywhere I hear it, yet I can't seem to get it like he does
Hey there! Yeah, i know he gets a massive sound out of his. For me, if I was after that kind of tone I'd do a coated 2-ply batter and an either coated or clear 1 ply reso. Then, tune both heads to more or less the same pitch and (low, but not wrinkly) and then play the top head and raise pitch of the reso head until you're happy with the sustain. Depending on your specific drum, you may not need to bring the reso up much, or you may have to crank it. For instance, older Ludwig 16" floor toms sometimes benefit from a significantly higher reso (I teched a studio's 60's Ludwig Standard kit last week and this was what we landed on), so don't be afraid to experiement with your drum and see what the extremes get you!
Another thing to keep in mind, unless you're referring to hearing the sound of his drums in person without mics, is that the recorded sound is EQ'd and compressed, which will significantly enhance the body and punch of a drum.
Thanks so much for the quick and in depth response! I'll definitely give that a shot, however, when you say "Not wrinkly", what exactly do you mean. No wrinkles when pressing in the drumhead or just no wrinkles when it's just on the drum (I don't even get wrinkles when the drumhead is finger tight)?
Tuning just above finger tight. The idea is to make sure that there is tension from the counter hoop being applied to the head and evenly so but just enough to hold that tension.
Ah ok, thanks so much for the in depth info! I'll give that tuning a shot once I get new heads for my toms, since the ones I have right now are pretty worn out
The early Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa tom sound, was much warmer and better , than today’s .
Maybe the calf leads or the tuning.
Really like your videos, but I do wish you guys would give drum dial settings for your tunings.
Another great one! I've unfortunately got hanging floor toms, and while they're beautiful, I have always struggled to get a more floor-tom-like sound out of them. Perhaps if you're ever short of material (how could you ever run out of material!?) you can amend this with an "Ep. 16a - How to Tune Hanging Floor Toms?" 🙏 I second Darcy 809, I always get excited when I see you've posted a new episode!
Not a bad idea! Ben's kit is all hanging toms so that actually wouldn't be too hard to do :)
Sweet! I will be forever grateful.
How do you get more punch? Mine is like a long resonance but I want the punchy quick ish sound
A great tip for floor tone is cut 3 square pieces of foam rubber
And set the drum on the foam which will let the drum sing.
Yes! We've got an option for minimizing sustain too: ua-cam.com/video/nKsV501prgw/v-deo.html
I remember Eric Carr once said they used to do this with his FTs in studio for recordings..
It would be great if your tuning note titles included the actual frequency 😌
any chances you could make a video with the tama tension watch or something similar? i have it and use it, but sometimes have hard time getting a decent sound out of my drums.
We're focusing on tuning by ear for the most part. We may touch on the use of dials in the future, but we don't use them personally and haven't felt the need to.
Cool
Kool! 👍💨
Great video! Would you recommend a coated head on the resonant side specifically on the floor tom to get a "fatter" sound? I've always used clear resonant heads but I feel like the floor tom is always hard to get really nice and fat.
Hey there! Man, it’s tricky to say for sure because your individual drum does have a large influence on the sound but I do personally feel that putting coated 10mil (Ambassador, G1, UV1 etc) does add to the bigness of the fundamental note of the drum. I think there can be a small loss of projection depending on your tuning but I really enjoy a single-ply coated underneath and a 2-ply coated on top for anything modern as well as classic rock stuff or Americana/folk. Might adjust the tuning a bit for each of those situations a little :)
Thank you! I have Tama Starclassic maple and 16" floor tom. I can usually get the right amount of attack but a bit too much sustain for my personal preference. That's some good advice I'll check it out :) Keep doing these awesome videos!
Our latest video deals specifically with adjusting floor tom sustain without altering the tone. Cheers!
I've never used coated reso on toms....but now I'm gonna try it. Especially because I went into a shop and heard it....it was phenomenal.....dryer and warm I thought.
and yeah, the last tunning on the floor sounds like a bass drum attack combined with a bop tunned tom overtone. haha, actually i kinda like it. put some moon on it and it would be such a usable sound.
The cool thing about leaving the moongel off is you get that raspy tone (which makes it so unique). In the context of what Jojo plays in that video (linked in the description) it works quite well.
How do U know the pitch of the drum? Just earing???
This is the best thing to happen to youtube since vice
Would it be possible for you to make a comparison video on how different hoops affect the drum sound ? I would love to hear the differences between Triple Flanged, S-Hoop and Die Cast on a Snare and also on Toms.
Coming soon!
Awesome, thanks a lot guys !
I swore I had heard "they just need more TENSION than they get" at the end. That was a funny misunderstood
Hey man, great job on your videos! Being a gigging drummer myself and working in a drumshop I deal with tuning situations everyday. I love how you went through the paces with this 14 floor but I'd really love to see/hear how you approach a 16. 16" floor toms are some of the most unruly and hard to tune drums on a kit and I'm sure a lot of drums would benefit from what you'd have to say about it. Cheers!
Thanks so much! We wouldn't really take a different approach to tuning a 16" floor tom. It's just going to have a different character to it, though the process is essentially the same.
What about 18" floor tom. Bonham had one.
Same with an 18". The key is to listen to the response from the heads and adjust as necessary.
For tuning #1, is B a higher pitch than A flat?
this is great information I play with two different bands one is an early fifties sixties Rock and roll band the other is a twelve piece big band same bassplayer also the difference he will use different bassamplifiers for either band so I need to tune my bass drum to compliment the amplifier could you touch on this subject when possible
Absolutely! There will be a variety of in-depth bass drum content coming soon! Thanks and glad you're digging the videos :)
possibly a dumb question. why use a coated reso head? is it more forgiving when used on a floor tom?
Coated redos tend to roll off a bit of the overtone response in during the sustain of the drum. Overall is a slightly warmer tone. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum ah i see. thx for the response i'm definitely gonna switch out the reso on my 16.
@@jdion79 ...and if you don't want to use coated on reso side, you can also use 2 plies clear, like remo emperor or equivalent (I suggest not too thick), or use a single ply and drop a ring inside the floor tom that will rest on the reso head. I sometimes do it with old heads and it works fine... there are some little tricks by there....
If there´s more low frequencies needed: use this Air Suspension Floortom Rubber Feet! Works!
I have a question. My rack toms are sounding great with a minor 3rd higher bottom interval. Why doesn’t this work great with floor toms?. I find that i have to do say only half a step higher in the bottom to get them sounding great.
What is the explanation for this.
Thank you.
Hey there! I don’t have a specific physics-backed explanation for it but I experience the same thing as you and I think that it has to do with the distance between the heads on a standard floor tom vs a standard rack. The larger diameter could also be a factor as I haven’t spent time with many 14” or larger rack toms, but you’re right that this seems to be a consistent thing with floor toms in general. -Cody
Why using a coated G1 on the bottom of the floor Tom? Very interesting application of a drumhead i thought it could only be used as a batter head...
Hey there! With toms, any thing can be used as batter or reso if you like the sound. Traditionally resonant heads are the same or thinner than batters, but coated or not is definitely up to you. I like coated reso's because they round the tone out a lot and warm up the fundamental pitch, especially for higher bop tunings or to emulate older recorded sounds. For rock or any situation that needs cut and projection, i'll run clear resos and either coated or clear batters. - Cody
Thanks man!
9:52 dude this video does not do it justice. i did this to my floor toms and it sounded like an airplane passing by.
Perspective is everything. Have someone hit the drum while you stand several feet away rather than right over the drum. Some of these sounds are best captured with a close mic but it’s important to recognize what translates beyond the drum thrown. Cheers!
How we can control the Hmmmmmmm after hit the stroke ,,,,without sound rings ??
Shubham Walia hang a tshirt in the middle... apparently
Cory, always great advice, one of the best channels on YOutube. I have a Gammon cheapo kit. The floor tom is `16 X 16 . Replaced the heads with G2 batters and Remo Amnbassador reso heads. I have been able to get an overall improvement in the rack toms 12 and 13 inch with painstakingly head chnages and tuning, But the Floor tom is a big PIA. Just can't get there. I use Moongels (3) and it's getting close but my ideal sound is evasive. Any suggestions out there? FYI. I've tried Attack Tone Ridge batters , G1s and now G2s . The other toms still need 2 moongels. I'm a 69 YO - who has returned to drumming after a 50 year Hiatus. I play in retirement for pleasure in my finished basement studio to MY Music (CCR, Petty. Mellencamp, Clapton, Cars, even Linda Ronstandt [you would be surprised how good she and her band were], Beatles, Stones, etc.....
Honestly you'll probably have to get a new kit. I'd recommend a Gretsch Reknown, that kit would serve you well. Ludwig Neusonics are decent too.
Aldo try Evans Black Chrome tom Batters. They are designed specifically for low end on floor toms. I have other suggestions if you haven't conquered the issue yet.
Splendid 9:50
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So I tune my school drum sets, and we cant afford nice heads, so they cheap and they ring a lot. I know ring it good, but to much is bad. Right now I'm using eletrical tape, is there anything else I can do?
Ep. 17 demonstrates a process for controlling floor tom sustain without affecting tone: ua-cam.com/video/nKsV501prgw/v-deo.html We'll demonstrate some approaches to muffling in a future episode.
Someone told me once: tune the reso head to how you want it to sound and the batter head to how you want it to feel
That's a common recommendation that definitely has some value but is still a pretty extreme oversimplification. The reso will absolutely affect the feel and the batter will absolutely affect the tone. It can be extremely misleading to imagine that these two heads are independent controls.
How tune my 16x16 Floor Tom for rock?
This method will work fine for starters and then you can tweak the tension ratio between batter and reso to produce the sound you're looking for. There's no definitive "how to tune for rock" method but if you have a reference tone you're trying to achieve, start but matching the pitch with the reso and then dial in the batter for feel. From there, small changes between the two heads will allow you to control the overall tone and sustain.
Beautiful video , i love your voice 😂😂😂
Last one ! Yeah... anyway... again, smart!
It always confuses me when say i have clear 1 ply reso, and coated 2 ply batter. If their tensions are the same, id assume that neans the pitch on bottom is higher. So when you say higher on bottom these guys are referring to pitch. I never know when someone means pitch or tension cuz that gets two different results
Yeah that's understandable - I think that's also why I think that some of the tuning devices on the market can get confusing, what with all the different types/thicknesses of drum heads out there and how they act at a given tension. - Cody
Cody said "road head"
Haha, I was wondering if anyone else caught that
😂😂
With a lot of attack
I have a very hard time with costed heads on my toms, I don’t get any depth, it just sounds papery and dry and there’s a billion overtones. I don’t understand.
Experiment a bit more with the batter to reso tuning relationship.
I love your work with snares, but the floor Tom cant be tuned that high for anything other than jazz, and rock made before 1969. I always tune my toms to drum dial specifications except the floor tom which is tuned super low...for some reason this has always worked better for me than tuning the floor tom up high.
I hear ya, you'd be shocked at how many unexpected things have turned out to be the right choice that I thought weren't gonna work at all :) I've found that the micing scheme ends up dictating my tuning more than anything else these days. - Cody
@@SoundsLikeADrum yeah...I get a good recording live off the floor in my basement studio...I wouldn't argue with a pro recorder, though. At the end of the day, if you told me that tuning my floor tom up higher is essential for the mic to pic up enough frequency, I'd believe you.
@@mikeboon6160 Right on man, yeah a lot of the time it's more about the distance to the mic that you want the tom (or whatever drum) to be speaking to. If it's 3" away, you can pretty much do whatever you want pitch-wise, but if you want that tone in a mic 10 or 15 feet away all of a sudden you have to contend with different factors. So much physics.. :) - Cody
@@SoundsLikeADrum Hey you are right. My floor Tom wasn't being picked up by the condenser mic in the room...so I tuned the reso up a lot and the batter side a little and now it projects and sounds good at any dynamic level. I tuned the snare side head down (it was cranked the way you had it in that video about cranking snare side heads), and the batter up and now I'm getting a snare sound that sounds similar to what you get on your snares in your videos. It sounds studio quality to me now. The information you provide is invaluable. Tuning the snare side too high is bad info now IMO.
My lowest Tom's are mounted I still call them floor Tom's is that wrong? I play dw.
why in the world woud you use a 14" for a floor tom video?
Because it’s a floor tom…And the methodology doesn’t change between a 14”, 16”, or even an 18”.
@@SoundsLikeADrum thats just plain wrong.
@@tokiboi6777 Nope, this is 100% the case. Just like a 10" tom isn't any less of a tom than a 12" tom. What differentiates floor toms (beyond the alternative means of mounting) tends to be the ratio of diameter vs. depth. Our methodology presented here does not chain whether it's a 14", 16", or 18". Try it out- it works!
I have a Gretsch Catalina 14” floor tom that sounds beautiful with pure tone for days. I just bought a 16” floor tom of the same make, put the exact same heads on it. I can’t get it to sound like anything but trash. It doesn’t sound good tuned low, medium or high. The only variable is the size. WTF?
Oh it could be many things - bearing edge issues, defective heads, bent or out-of-round hoops... there are a lot of hidden variables there. In situations like that I’ll check all those components first 👍🏻 lmk if you discover anything! - Cody
@@SoundsLikeADrum I think it might be because the universe hates me. Seriously, though, I can tune snares and bass drums all day long, but when it comes to toms, I'm always just guessing. I've been playing for over 40 years and I'm no better at it now than when I was 7 years old. If I get a good sound it's a total accident and I try not to touch the drum for fear I'll screw it up again.
@@SoundsLikeADrum Here's another thing: I've got the matching 13" drum and it tunes up fine. The problem with it is that when I hang it on the Gretsch suspension mount, it chokes the drum. If I lift it just a tiny bit so that the weight is not fully hanging on the suspension, it has full tone. I have a 12" tom, same mount, that I can put in it's place and it's not affected at all. Am I losing my mind?
16's can be tricky to tune due to the length of the shell...
I had the same IDENTICAL issue between a 14 and a 16. Couple of suggestions:
Evans Black Chrome tom Batters. They are specifically designed for low end issues like you are experiencing. Personally, I dropped 4 cotton balls wadded up onto the inner shell resting on the reso. It functions as a "gate" to limit the sustain 16x16's are known for. Hope this helps and good luck
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The floor Tom sounds like 10 inch rack tom
Yup, sounds like shit to me. had to scroll down to find a great comment like this, but I was chocked it took me 6 scrolls.
Don't mind me here, but a B to an Ab would be an Augmented Second. You meant B and G#.Carry on.
their both enharmonic, augmented second is a minor third.
B to Ab isn't in the scale. You're correct it would be B to G#. B natural scale form uses #'s. B to G# ascending would be a major 6th.
@@nemesisproject399 if we think of Ab as our tonic note the B natural is a minor third away, technically it would be Cb
Yes if Ab is the tonic and you were ascending. I see what he meant now.
@@nemesisproject399 look at us drummers attempting music theory 😂 we try