(NEW BIOS VERSIONS!) ASUS ROG ALLY vs. LENOVO LEGION GO

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  • TEST WITH NEW BIOS VERSIONS: Comparing the ASUS ROG ALLY vs. the LENOVO LEGION GO side by side. Which one is faster?
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    00:00 Introduction and Setup
    02:43 Benchmarks
    12:18 Conclusion
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  • @Hubwood
    @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +50

    IMPORTANT:
    1. Be nice to each other
    2. Both handhelds are great in their own way. Each has their target audience. Just because "you" don't like it, doesn't mean somebody else can't likes it "better".
    3. Clarification: I recorded both devices at the same resolution. That is possible due to the capture card. The LLG can also use 720p that way. Sorry if that was unclear.
    4. The LLG will recieve alot of updates within the next few days/weeks. Lenovo is open about their update roadmap. And they already fixed alot of complaints in the first 35 days!
    5. VRR is not a joke. If you're sensitive to that it can make a big difference in smoothness. Not everybody "sees" that though. For some people that is an argument. For others the bigger screen is more important though.

    • @nlspoh
      @nlspoh 5 місяців тому +4

      Well said. Some people are so sensitive lol. Both devices are cool, but both have their own pros and cons. I have used both. You don't need to justify your choice to others, just let everyone enjoy what they want.

    • @EvryGama
      @EvryGama 5 місяців тому +1

      @Hubwood
      I agree too, nicely said! 👌👍
      I need to say that I have a trained eye for this being a 3D artist, and I didn't experience any tearing on the Legion Go yet whatsoever. So this for me is no valid argument against the Legion Go in any way. What I can believe though (not owning an Ally myself, and therefore not being able to test it) is that the VRR makes the picture still looking smoother. For me the smoothness of the Go is anyway definetly good enough (and I definetly prefer the way bigger and better looking screen), and I couldn't understand why people were making such a big thing out of it not having VRR at the beginning and been talking about tearing and so forth not even having tried out the device themselves once before...
      For me the more important, and in my opinion way more relevant thing the Ally has over the Go is the low framerate compensation. Especially on those handhelds with limited hardware capacity, a really nice thing to have to be able to crank up the quality a bit more at higher settings if wanted.

    • @GamerDan89
      @GamerDan89 5 місяців тому

      ​@@nlspohwhich did you prefer?

  • @yingbxua6240
    @yingbxua6240 2 місяці тому +3

    I sincerely thank you for the comparison benchmarks, with updates as well. It is not usual review-and-run video like those usual UA-cam marketing bloggers, but detailed and updated review of each product!

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @jasonx5292
    @jasonx5292 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this & your previous video Hubwood. Thanks to them I've finally decided between these two machines, going for the Legion Go

  • @soiltek2015
    @soiltek2015 5 місяців тому +7

    Great video. I had the alt but returned it. Sticking with the GO.

  • @ElderTrollsGaming
    @ElderTrollsGaming 3 місяці тому

    great video!
    i got the legion go and im surprisingly happy with it. I wasnt a big gaming handheld guy but now my wife has something to play games on.

  • @coolhawk2003
    @coolhawk2003 2 місяці тому

    Nice video love the information at the start. Great job. 👍

  • @mattfick5502
    @mattfick5502 5 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for the review!
    The fortunate thing about my joke of a financial situation is that by the time I've finally saved enough, these handhelds will only be better optimised

  • @ATAMusic
    @ATAMusic 5 місяців тому +3

    At 3:34, there is something weird happening and I think it's due to the Ally BIOS power envelopes. In that case, the Ally is 10C lower than the Legion Go, but the GPU boosts way lower than the LLG. The GPU usage is the same...

  • @thrace336
    @thrace336 5 місяців тому +13

    Great thorough review as usual. Both are great devices with perfectly playable experience in most games. I can only imagine now with the release of the intel meteor lake processor with much improved igpu that the competition in the segment would give consumers even more choices.

    • @ToGrimmToWin
      @ToGrimmToWin 2 місяці тому

      @@theo5675 sadly the msi claw is steamdeck levels or worse right now

  • @SaifAli96
    @SaifAli96 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanks!!

  • @Pipes61874
    @Pipes61874 5 місяців тому +9

    I like both .I own a steam deck and ally. I personally like ally for better performance and it feels better in my hands i enjoy a less bulky device .can't wait to see the future of these device's.

  • @martinhammerton8157
    @martinhammerton8157 5 місяців тому +11

    I have both the ally is definitely more user friendly but it's been out longer but the bigger screen on the legion go is something that makes my go to device the legion go and with upcoming updates I'm in no doubt the legion go will just get better and better

    • @lvhboy
      @lvhboy 5 місяців тому +1

      Same here. I am happy with my ROG Ally and no SD card issue so far. But sometimes the font on the screen is just too small. So I got LLG today and want to give it a try.

    • @martinhammerton8157
      @martinhammerton8157 5 місяців тому

      @@lvhboy just give it some time bud it start to grow on you after a while xx

    • @kysierkevin
      @kysierkevin 5 місяців тому

      how was it? coz I am planning to buy the ROG Ally@@lvhboy

    • @lvhboy
      @lvhboy 5 місяців тому +3

      @@kysierkevin Some screen compatibility issues with Legion Go. Some old games do not support 16:10 well, one game is not playable, that is AC Syndicate. AC Syndicate works well on ROG Ally. Also due to VRR on ROG Ally, I can feel at similar frame rate around 30-45, ROG is smoother than Legion Go. I now intended to return Legion Go, but will wait until 1/13 to see if there is more update to it.

  • @pgolowacz
    @pgolowacz 5 місяців тому +26

    I did switch ally for legion and like it more. I dont miss vrr -that screen size and colours are just awesome.(800p, integer scaling and Radeon sharpening for most of the newer games - sharp and awesome!) With sound fx it is not as bad with sound. Of course could be better, rog sounds way better, but its good enough. Software is getting better and better and soon both devices gonna be on the same level. Overall Im having better time with legion, kinda more immersive. Dont have issues with extra buttons and it feels a bit comfier in my hands than rog . Of course ally is awesome, too. U cant go wrong with either. If you know how to set up windows, update things often then performance and look of the games is amazing on both devices. I used to like my steam deck...but after rog or legion u cant look back.

    • @hokayson6518
      @hokayson6518 5 місяців тому +1

      I've gone from LCD Deck to the Go & I have similar thoughts. Whilst I really miss SteamOS for the simplicity & the superb sleep/resume capability, I really like the bigger, higher resolution, higher refresh rate & much more colour accurate screen & the flexibility of playing any game on the Go. The big three are all pretty great, each has their slight pros & cons, but I wouldn't be unhappy with any of them!

    • @liuki8298
      @liuki8298 4 місяці тому +1

      Keep coping

    • @bandzzman1224
      @bandzzman1224 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@liuki8298my thoughts exactly VRR is literally everything on these low end portable pc’s

  • @mrbrit6746
    @mrbrit6746 Місяць тому

    Any idea how the performance is these days? It’s been 4 months, has Lenovo / Asus released any new performance updates?

  • @srm158
    @srm158 4 місяці тому +1

    if you're two year old is anything like mine, get the legion go. With the Ally she constantly would want to grab the controllers and press the buttons, and snuggling with her was harder than expected. But with the legion go I can use the kick stand to prop up the screen, and have the controllers in my hands. Making me be able to snuggle in any position with her, and keep them out of sight so she doesn't wanna play with them, and instead want to watch my games

  • @Despicable_Gamer
    @Despicable_Gamer 4 місяці тому +1

    I wish developers will optimize their games like the Forza series

  • @giuseppenaylor
    @giuseppenaylor 5 місяців тому

    @Hubwood Are you doing 720p for the Ally and 800p for the Go? I believe you mentioned that at the very beginning of the video, but that would indicate that, generally, the Ally scored about the same as the Go at a lower resolution pretty much acreoss the board?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      No. Both are recorded and rendered at 720p. Due to the capture card. So both use the same resolution.

  • @battlepowered
    @battlepowered 5 місяців тому +1

    Malibu’s Most Wanted making tech videos. Nice! 👍🏽

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Who are you referring to. I'm not familiar with Malibu local news, 😜

    • @battlepowered
      @battlepowered 5 місяців тому

      @@Hubwood look up the Movie: Malibu’s Most wanted. You look like the actor here

  • @HekaWaset
    @HekaWaset 5 місяців тому +6

    Besides the small bump in RAM speed, the biggest benefit of the GO over the Ally is 800p with intergral scaling.

  • @sebastiankold5403
    @sebastiankold5403 5 місяців тому

    Hi, thank you for the video. There is an typo in the tdp writing in the last benchmark. What is the name of the overlay you used for the FPS? What was the os power setting on the legion go?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      Msi afterburner with RTSS! I have a tutorial on that. Search for hubwood osd on UA-cam.
      Power setting was performance.

    • @sebastiankold5403
      @sebastiankold5403 5 місяців тому

      @@Hubwood thank you! Just FYI I get FPS (and a quieter fans) on the efficiency setting on my legion go. I am just curious if you can observe the same :) I saw I video about this a couple of weeks on a different channel but I can not find it anymore.

  • @blablabupp
    @blablabupp 5 місяців тому +2

    I have gotten a steam deck oled and an ally! I think if you have some money on the table, you should get either ally or go and get yourself steam deck OLED! The ally is my couch handheld and steam deck is used when I’m traveling!

    • @emperorbraphomet
      @emperorbraphomet 3 місяці тому

      Boom. This is the way if you have some spare change.

  • @blablabupp
    @blablabupp 5 місяців тому +4

    I think if you look closely on the speed of GPU and CPU, the Ally runs more efficient! It is more optimized compared to Legion Go which just hit the market couple of months ago. Beside that setting the VRAM to 6GB with a resolution set to 720p does not make any sense!

    • @Lapyer
      @Lapyer 5 місяців тому

      True. More than standart 4gb vram i didnt use. I think more Ram is better, then vram. In FH5 med-low settings (like on Deck) ,720p, fsr, ris 110-125 fps on Ally (4gb vram, 12 ram). After that i understand why i need 120hz display on ally)))

  • @DJCJ999
    @DJCJ999 5 місяців тому

    I'd like to try the ROG but I have the LGO and coming from an OG Steam Deck I am really happy.

    • @lincoln537
      @lincoln537 5 місяців тому

      I tried Ally and was holding Go. I didn't want to let Ally go. It was perfect match for me

  • @rippinraven777
    @rippinraven777 5 місяців тому +4

    The Legion go is a Beast !!

  • @DragonTamer_29
    @DragonTamer_29 5 місяців тому

    1) How do each handhaled run playing games like Ark: Survival Ascwnded/Evolved if playable at all? How about with mods?
    2) What about Minecraft Java/Bedrock with mods/addons?
    3) How about Call Of Duty: Black Ops 3 custom Zombie maps?
    Those are the games I will be playing along with older games like Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Shaolin Munks, Deception and more.

  • @rannarharmaste9857
    @rannarharmaste9857 5 місяців тому

    Deck Oled vs Deck when? I know digital foundry shows 2-8% difference but they did not use as many tests and resolutions as your standart testing procedure.

  • @zavierblade_3466
    @zavierblade_3466 5 місяців тому +37

    Lenovo legion go has stunning performance after the update. Now it is able to get higher fps than the rog ally. Can’t wait to get the Lenovo legion go.

    • @catchwreck928
      @catchwreck928 5 місяців тому +10

      lies
      ROG ALLY FOR LIFE
      PLUS NO VRR

    • @jaycrossez24
      @jaycrossez24 5 місяців тому +9

      @@catchwreck928lol VRR 😂

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +13

      @@jaycrossez24you laugh, but it makes a difference.

    • @JuanTorres-nx1cd
      @JuanTorres-nx1cd 5 місяців тому +8

      @@jaycrossez24 Vrr can literally make a game going from 60 to 40fps playable unlike the other handheld which makes it look like a stuttering mess

    • @jaycrossez24
      @jaycrossez24 5 місяців тому +5

      @@JuanTorres-nx1cd 😂😂no no it doesn’t lol people be acting like VRR is this magical thing and it’s terrible for fps games or games where you need to react as quick as possible

  • @EvryGama
    @EvryGama 5 місяців тому +2

    @Hubwood
    (How did you get to your name by the way? 😉 Do you like wood?)
    This time you were lucky, the BIOS version 28 for the Go will stay the newest for a while, as it looks like, as Lenovo is currently focussing on the new LegionSpace version (coming out this week) and on the new official VGA drivers supposingly still coming out this month (you never know with the VGA drivers as they already targeted a certain time and didn't make it before...)
    Did you use the current beta VGA drivers out of the official Legion Go group (forum) for those tests? I got another slight performance boost with them of about 5 to 10 fps 😉👍.
    Great you are aware and mentioned the additional performance at lower wattages. It should already come into play at 15 watts and through that the Go could slightly outperform the Ally there too 😉👍. Looking forward to a comparison with it! Great subject for an own video!
    In any way I like your content and your comparisons! You are doing a nice job with those videos! 👍😃👍

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      The name has to do with my German family name ;)
      Thanks for the feedback!
      And I was NOT using the beta drivers.
      Was thinking about it, but wanted to compare them "as they are" right now for 95% of the users out there.
      But these tests become out date quickly every time ;)

    • @EvryGama
      @EvryGama 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Hubwood Aaah, Holz-something - Am German too 😆
      Ok, I understand... Would be interesting for the future though 😉 Yes, of course.

  • @coolcashew365
    @coolcashew365 5 місяців тому +1

    any improvement for suspending?

  • @LuxuryMotorsOnGoogleMaps
    @LuxuryMotorsOnGoogleMaps 3 місяці тому

    Spotted that Enter Shikari shot on the ally at 1:05! 🫡

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  3 місяці тому +1

      🤘👏👏👏

  • @JustAnotherAsianGuy2
    @JustAnotherAsianGuy2 4 місяці тому

    where do you download the stuff to show those stats while you were playing .... i want to know ..... i want to get it

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  4 місяці тому

      I have a super quick tutorial about it. Search UA-cam for "hubwood osd"

  • @rdline_drvr8350
    @rdline_drvr8350 2 місяці тому

    My conclusion is to go with the Rog because being a handheld device, the temperature difference of even 2 degrees matter a lot. The Rog well contained the temperature below quite a few degrees albeit dripping just a few frames per sec. A good trade off in my opinion

  • @Vanthil13
    @Vanthil13 5 місяців тому +4

    There's a couple things that weren't covered in this video but should be considered by people watching. TLDR, it artificially skews the results in favor of the Ally:
    1. The Legion GO in the 15W tests should have been set to 6400MT/s RAM speed instead of the stock speed of 7500MT/s. It uses LPDDRX5 ram instead of the LPDDR5 ram in the Ally. The former is more energy efficient by about 2 to 3 Watts. So when you are running within a confined TDP space like 15 Watts, the 6400MT/s setting in the Legion Go performs better, because the extra 2-3W power saving of the LPDDRX5 going to the GPU is better than running at the 7500MT/s. When running at 30W, you can leave it at the 7500MT/s default because the extra watts going to the GPU isn't as impactful as the extra RAM speed since the GPU gets diminishing returns per watt as they increase.
    2. The resolutions discussed in the video were somewhat misinformation. It was good that the creator compared apples to apples for this test. HOWEVER, running the Ally at 720p is not the same as running the Go at 800p. The difference is that the Go has a 1600p screen. This means 1 pixel scales into 4 pixels (integer scaling) evenly, every time, without fail. This leads to a much sharper picture than 720p being scaled to 1080p as it's not even scaling. You cannot have "1.5 pixels". You either have a whole pixel, or no pixel. If the Ally had a 1440p screen then yes what was said in the video would be correct. And if they had a 1440p, that would be sick. But it doesn't.
    3. The 780M Drivers perform the same or identical on the Ally for the most part. But the 780M drivers perform worse than the Lenovo custom drivers for the Go. So while it doesn't make a difference to the Ally. It does matter, and in some cases quite substantially for the Go. BUT this video was a test about the bios. So it makes perfect sense to keep the drivers the same. Just remember when push comes to shove, there's a lot more performance left on the table for the Go with all the things I've mentioned here.

  • @DavidS.Pumpkin
    @DavidS.Pumpkin 5 місяців тому +6

    I sold my Deck. Got a LLG. I am happy with my choice. LLets GO!

  • @theo5675
    @theo5675 5 місяців тому +8

    The performance is pretty much identical within the margin of error the ally runs cooler tho probably due to 2 fans the temps were like 10-12 degrees difference in most games the ally was in the 50s and the legion go was in the 70s

  • @user-gx4wd6sv8f
    @user-gx4wd6sv8f 4 місяці тому

    is lenovo have comuunity ineed saturation with ubdste like steam deck?

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin 2 місяці тому

    it looks like the go is running hotter now than the other video. it seemed lower than the ally more often last video

  • @Leo_The_Silva
    @Leo_The_Silva 5 місяців тому +6

    LLG for the win

  • @MunteanuAdrianXD
    @MunteanuAdrianXD 5 місяців тому +3

    Still don’t know what to chose..I’m tired of my steamdeck..i need one of these..but don’t know wich one

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +1

      If you’re into games, the Rog Ally. If you’re into productivity, Legion Go.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 5 місяців тому +6

      If u want a bigger screen, go. Smaller ally
      Big screen makes a huge difference tho.. I can’t go back to my deck now

    • @Nyantify
      @Nyantify 5 місяців тому +3

      Please take note the ROG Ally Still causes damage to SD cards

    • @MunteanuAdrianXD
      @MunteanuAdrianXD 5 місяців тому +2

      @@LazyFaux5656 I really need a bigger screen but that vrr makes me think twice…

  • @Nyantify
    @Nyantify 5 місяців тому +6

    If only ROG ally doesn't destroy SD cards i would have bought one

    • @lincoln537
      @lincoln537 5 місяців тому

      I thought they fixed it? And if not. Playing on SD car anyway is slower. So it can burn for all I care lol

    • @Nyantify
      @Nyantify 5 місяців тому +1

      @@lincoln537 you have to send it back to an ASUS service center to have it swap the motherboard and i read somewhere that there are some who still get their SD destroyed after the whole swap

    • @lincoln537
      @lincoln537 5 місяців тому

      @@Nyantify Thank you I did not know that. I thought I read on reddit they fixed that, but this is definitely not a solution. Thanks for the update

    • @Despicable_Gamer
      @Despicable_Gamer 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lincoln537They didn't it a hardware issue not a software issue

    • @lincoln537
      @lincoln537 4 місяці тому

      @@Despicable_Gamer those bastards lied to me, but I am not using it anyway, so it's good

  • @GabrielCruzzzz
    @GabrielCruzzzz 5 місяців тому +9

    I have the 2 device and i love more the Legión Go ❤

  • @matthias99442
    @matthias99442 5 місяців тому

    Zu Hause nutze ich das Legion Go jetzt mit einem Sonnet eGPU case mit einer RTX3070.

  • @miladghaderzade9054
    @miladghaderzade9054 5 місяців тому

    Nice😁

  • @MadMadRoGRoG
    @MadMadRoGRoG 5 місяців тому

    Merci👍

  • @LividAardvark3911
    @LividAardvark3911 5 місяців тому +2

    I mean I dunno if the Bios will have as much of an impact the Video Drivers that are supposed to come out and have been long awaited for the Go...
    Will be the Go's first set of GPU drivers since release so. Hopefully should help things out a lot.

    • @bunbukuchagama346
      @bunbukuchagama346 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. Sometimes, the configuration can remove the unnecessary part, which you can just do it without a long process, so it will become more efficient . Hmm... i think something like that. Please correct me if I'm wrong

  • @leilavergerius9223
    @leilavergerius9223 5 місяців тому +6

    ROG ALLY all the way and getting better with all new updates!

  • @user-gx4wd6sv8f
    @user-gx4wd6sv8f 4 місяці тому

    is there sauturation for lenovo becuse not beutiful color?

  • @TatsuyaWow
    @TatsuyaWow 4 місяці тому

    Battery life ?

  • @coolhawk2003
    @coolhawk2003 2 місяці тому

    Seems like people complain about software alot . Maybe they dont no it can be updated aka changes

  • @miladghaderzade9054
    @miladghaderzade9054 5 місяців тому

    Do you think that it will play games acceptable after 3 years?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Well depends on the game. I'm pretty sure more and more upcoming triple A titles won't be playable soon.

  • @rujo700
    @rujo700 5 місяців тому

    Have you tried 800p with integer scaling on the Legion?

  • @hhrocha000
    @hhrocha000 Місяць тому

    Rog Ally or Rog Ally extreme in this tests?

  • @zxToaDxz
    @zxToaDxz 5 місяців тому

    На LEGION GO в 15w нужно ставить ddr на 6400, тогда останется больше энергии для видеокарты и процессора и он будет работать еще быстрее.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      That's what I was saying at the end of the video ;)

  • @Lapyer
    @Lapyer 5 місяців тому +1

    Not interested compared... How about compare without black stripes on legion go, on his native (16:10) 800p, 1200p and 1600p... What about fps on those resolution? Because а lot of people will play on the native aspect ratio rather than 16:9

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Yes but then 50% of the people will complain that it's not a fair comparison either since the go would have to render more pixels. That's why I mentioned it.

    • @Lapyer
      @Lapyer 5 місяців тому

      .@@Hubwood Yes, but many, like me, may not pay attention to it. As a result, they will remain with high expectations from Lenovo. And when they purchase this product, they will be faced with the fact that the FPS will differ from such tests.
      And in general, such tests at the same resolutions are not very correct. It's stupid to compare the same CPU. After all, the devices differ only in screens with different aspect ratios and resolutions, and RAM. In the case of Lenovo, faster RAM should just level out the difference in aspect ratio, because the majority will play at 800p and 1200p with the picture in full screen.
      I believe that the fairest option is for tests to always show all options. I mean the example of “here is a test at the same resolution” and “here is a test at the target resolution of the device you will be playing on.”
      "Name of the game"
      10/15/25/30 watts: Asus 720p vs Lenovo 720p and 800p (full screen).
      Asus 1080p vs Lenovo 1080p and 1200p (full screen).
      You can also mention an intermediate version of the game at 900p on Asus. And the maximum option for Lenovo is 1600p. Although I think no one will play modern AAA projects on Lenovo in native 1600p. Because its cringe with 10fps)))))

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      @@Lapyer you're welcome to do this. It takes days to make such benchmarks and the video. I can't test everything. Sorry.

    • @Lapyer
      @Lapyer 5 місяців тому

      @@Hubwood Oh, if only it were so easy in my country, where there are not even half of the official representative offices of certain companies, as well as their resellers... I am the lucky one who managed to buy a rog ally in my country at the start from the person who brought it from another country. Ally cost me 1000$ this june, lgo now cost 1000-1100$. My salary 800$ per month. Its wery hard to try...

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      @@Lapyer See, and my problem is having a full time job and two kids, and doing this on my freetime in the evening ;) This video took over a week to make if you only have 3-4 hours a day.

  • @LCast31
    @LCast31 5 місяців тому +8

    There you go. After a month of release the Legion Go trumps the almost 6 months+ old Ally on performance.
    People! the argument between Armory crate vs Legion space should not be existent. You are comparing it with a 6 month old device. Within a month the Legion go have all the necessary features on the Space, what more after 6 months?
    The main thing is you use your handheld for gaming 95% of the time. 5 % on tinkering with the tdps, etc. Dont use the software argument anymore because after a month the Go have the necessary update needed to run the game.
    Bigger, better, more versatile, vrr is scam no tearing on the Go for me after 3 weeks of using it.
    Legion go all the way kudos to devs & lenovo for doing great job.

  • @HuntaKiller91
    @HuntaKiller91 5 місяців тому +7

    32gb of ram is very much needed for nxtyear model

  • @arbbs65
    @arbbs65 5 місяців тому

    Why 3gb for balders gate and not 8?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Because if you use 8gb of vram, the system only has 8gb left. And baldurs gate will crash!

    • @Caba-Rojo
      @Caba-Rojo 4 місяці тому

      Onexgpu time

  • @Ragondin49
    @Ragondin49 5 місяців тому

    i wait a bios update to boot on microSD. this is not logical for this type of material.

  • @loitersquadX
    @loitersquadX 5 місяців тому +1

    I have the ally . Probably gonna wait for the next iteration of pc handheld . I want the legion go to be a little better. 32gb ram, and I think it'll be better

  • @crea754
    @crea754 5 місяців тому +1

    Lenovo legion go 💪🚀👍👍

  • @srm158
    @srm158 4 місяці тому

    I didn't get the legion go expecting too much. But I'm impressed. I've been using it to play all the missed PS3&4/Xbox 360&one era games I've missed and they are running great. 75-80 fps on fallout 3 on max settings, 55 fps on Wildlands on a mix mod medium and high settings, Minecraft has a better draw distance than my PS5, ECT. The Legion go on almost every game gives you a better experience than playing on last gens hardware. The big screen, detachable controllers and the fact that I'd get a working SSD is what made me return the ally and go with the legion go.

  • @Bijikuhibiniuu
    @Bijikuhibiniuu 5 місяців тому +2

    I just hope that the legion go can perform better at lower tdp like steamdeck, do you think it can be fixed with software updates?

    • @valsanich
      @valsanich 5 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately they can’t. 1Z extreme is a slightly modified amd 7840u chip to run better at lower tdp. But still it has twice more cpus then steam decks chip that have to be powered.

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому

      It won’t

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому +1

      I suggest u get a steam deck if ur aiming at lower TDP

    • @blablabupp
      @blablabupp 5 місяців тому

      I‘m not sure about this one! Maybe they can disable some of the core in the bios but I have no idea if that is even possible with Z1 extreme and if it would run stable!

    • @Bijikuhibiniuu
      @Bijikuhibiniuu 5 місяців тому

      @@valsanich ahh, that's unfortunate

  • @ilyasssg5073
    @ilyasssg5073 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello from France

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      Bonjour mon ami! Comment ca va? :D (please don't answer in french, my french is terrible :D)

  • @somerandomhuman8405
    @somerandomhuman8405 5 місяців тому +10

    It doesn’t matter which one has 3fps more if you feel the frame drops.
    these handhelds need VRR to have a smooth feeling gameplay.
    The same way armory crate melts windows away.
    VRR and low frame compensation makes the ally the one with a better experience.
    Now I want a 8.8 inch rog ally.

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому

      Of course the ally is the better handheld I think the 7in screen is fine it’s the same size as the steam deck and bigger than the Nintendo switch

    • @justswitched8841
      @justswitched8841 5 місяців тому +6

      Vrr only works at 48 fps and up if it drops lower the ally still doesn't feel smooth either .Vrr is really not needed. With the right settings the legion go feels just as smooth . I have both devices

    • @Droideka666
      @Droideka666 5 місяців тому

      ​@@justswitched8841 not true. This is a misconception. Ally has full range VRR with LFC. It's included with Freesync premium.

    • @sebastianwallace268
      @sebastianwallace268 5 місяців тому

      if the legion had the ally speakers and VRR it would be better in every single way. I own the ROG and it just feels weird in the hand and the back buttons are a gimmick. The legion comes with a carrying case, bigger screen, better cooling, better as a windows pc and tablet on the side for not playing games... etc

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому +2

      better cooling? Lol did u even watch the video the ally was much cooler also the ally has 2 fans

  • @Anonymous-vk7ig
    @Anonymous-vk7ig 4 місяці тому

    Can you arrange on the basis of performance.
    3060,3060ti, 4050,4060,4070

  • @catchwreck928
    @catchwreck928 5 місяців тому +5

    Im sorry but that Fan is what kills it for me.
    so ill buy rog ally for now and when they make deck2 or legion 2
    or ally 2 ill trade it in....

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому

      The ally has 2 fans that’s why

    • @nlspoh
      @nlspoh 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@theo56752 quiet* fans. Go fan has a high pitched sound even at lowest setting

    • @leilavergerius9223
      @leilavergerius9223 5 місяців тому +3

      legion go is more louder comparing even to the steam deck and when go is at 30W it is an airplane turbine than the deck lol

  • @Anonymous-vk7ig
    @Anonymous-vk7ig 4 місяці тому

    Can you do rtx4050 vs 4060. Higher watt than previous video.

  • @gyqinchao
    @gyqinchao 5 місяців тому +1

    I am curious about your accent. Could you please tell me what accent is this?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      German guy trying to sometimes hide his accent 😂

  • @frankw544
    @frankw544 5 місяців тому

    This guy dresses like he looks cool guy online lmao

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +1

      I dress like I dresed for about the last 35 years. Jeans, shirt and sweater 🤷‍♂️

  • @rudyykip1536
    @rudyykip1536 4 місяці тому

    rog ally JOREEE

  • @jaycrossez24
    @jaycrossez24 5 місяців тому +11

    Lol why people keep saying VRR I have both and don’t even notice a difference in smoothness and the bigger screen on the legion go is why i don’t even use my rog ally anymore😂

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +12

      You’re being disingenuous if you believe VRR doesn’t make a difference.
      I’ve owned both. Games look worse on the Legion Go.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 5 місяців тому +3

      @@LazyFaux5656some people can’t tell tho… they’re not being disingenuous. I can see it tho.

    • @nlspoh
      @nlspoh 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@LazyFaux5656it 100% makes a difference. Some people just can't see it, or don't know what to look for lol. Games definitely look smoother on the Ally, though obviously the Go has the nicer display with better colors.

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +2

      @@nlspoh I agree. Go has its place, but it’s not gaming.

    • @SPG8989
      @SPG8989 5 місяців тому

      I swear black people are clowns

  • @antonimarekdabrowski2451
    @antonimarekdabrowski2451 5 місяців тому +1

    The very small increase in performance is likely due to to the faster Ram on the lenovo go.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Yes. Pretty likely.

    • @Vanthil13
      @Vanthil13 5 місяців тому

      @@Hubwood At the 30W TDP yes. But at 15W it actually hurts the Go and you should have set it to 6400MT/s in the bios for the 15W tests specifically. The Go uses LPDDRX5 RAM which is about 2-3W more efficient. So in the 15W test turning down the speed of the ram leaves that power for the GPU to boost. Due to diminishing returns on throwing more watts at the Z1 extreme this matters more in the 15W Benchmarks with the small TDP scope, but when you get to 30W that extra 2-3W going to the Memory yields better results since giving it to the GPU doesnt do much at that point.

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      @@Vanthil13 Yeah I know ;) that's what I meant in my comment about this in the video.

    • @Vanthil13
      @Vanthil13 5 місяців тому

      @@Hubwood My apologies I had missed where you said that. But you did briefly call it out. So that is definitely my bad.
      I still think you should have set it up to use the 6400MT/s during the benchmarks though for 15W and just recorded all the 15W footage at once. ;)

  • @LazyFaux5656
    @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +7

    Imagine a 2-3 fps difference.
    If you buy the legion go, you’re going to really suffer without VRR and LFC.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 5 місяців тому +8

      VRR is nice, but it doesn't even come close to making up for the UI clusterfuck that all Windows handhelds have. On a 7" screen it's terrible. I just got a Legion a few days ago, but it is much more useable on the larger screen. Submitted a return for my Ally a few days ago, have to take it back to BestBuy soon.

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +4

      @@rightwingsafetysquad9872 hope it works out for you.
      I tried to enjoy the Legion Go. Owned it twice just to make sure.
      The weight, poor performance, deadzones, all made it unbearable. Having to hold it with 1 hand or put it down just to type was annoying.

    • @nlspoh
      @nlspoh 5 місяців тому

      ​@@LazyFaux5656I made the same decision. I purchased each twice, as it was a very hard decision. I think the Ally is the better handheld besides the SD card flaw. The screen is a little small for windows, but that's the sacrifice for portability. Legion Go is better for table top mode, or docked with external monitor. It is a great tablet, and more comfortable to navigate windows for sure.

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 5 місяців тому

      @@LazyFaux5656 Other than the deadzones, all of those complaints apply to the Ally as well. The Legion is heavier, but not in a meaningful way for me.

    • @LazyFaux5656
      @LazyFaux5656 5 місяців тому +1

      @@rightwingsafetysquad9872 it’s so much easier to use windows on the Rog Ally’s screen. You can hold it like a tablet and type or click with your thumbs. The legion you have to sit it down or 1 hand it.

  • @trinchezito1383
    @trinchezito1383 5 місяців тому +11

    I'm more into the ally. My legion go in 15 watts the fans sounds like a jet engine. There no way to control the fans :( also the joystick deadzones are terrible. Good thing some games have settings to adjust it but many don't

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому

      Yea the ally is a much better handheld

    • @trinchezito1383
      @trinchezito1383 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm downloading windows into a USB atm lol. leGo didn't have the recovery feature like the ally D: I'm 100% returning it. I got a blue screen for setting a 1050p registry lol@@chronhado771

    • @clivek8673
      @clivek8673 4 місяці тому

      I think you can change the deadzones now in the go settings down to 1 percent with the latest bios

  • @adnanbokhamseen8958
    @adnanbokhamseen8958 5 місяців тому +5

    Tbh.. games look way smoother on the rog ally, if you concentrate on both displays. You can see the stutter in the legon lenovo go. I'm was thinking about getting the LG but the ally looks the better option imo.

    • @siahfishin5295
      @siahfishin5295 5 місяців тому +2

      Yeah the allys VRR just cant be beat

  • @TVCHLORD
    @TVCHLORD 5 місяців тому +3

    rog ally + bigger screen + 32gb ram + updated APU + bigger battery, thats what i want

  • @ag-man8601
    @ag-man8601 5 місяців тому +1

    What if Apple made a handheld gaming device?

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +3

      Then it would cost 2.000 dollars and only allow you to play games that Apple want you to play. It will also have only 256gb ssd and 8gb of ram.
      But it will look well designed...

    • @TVCHLORD
      @TVCHLORD 5 місяців тому +1

      it would be terrible because apple locks everything down to their own stuff only, so only apple arcade + apple store games which are just mobile games, plus they would use ARM so it would be impossible to play a lot of pc games

  • @charlierose1708
    @charlierose1708 5 місяців тому

    This whole video is margin of error😂 1-3 fps is nothing to even compare

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      1-2 fps at higher fps. Yes. Absolutely.
      34-38 is a solid 12% though and outside the margin of error. Especially if it happens with every test.

  • @nonyabusiness999
    @nonyabusiness999 5 місяців тому +39

    Rog made the experience of handheld gaming so much better than lenovo,Rog armoury crate is so much better than legion space you'd of thought they'd take a look at it and make it as easy to use but in typical lenovo fashion they've created a pile of crap,it's so easy to update the bios and drivers on Ally compared to the mess that's lenovo even changing the vram results in having to boot into bios,lenovo need to sort out their software it's a joke...

    • @somerandomhuman8405
      @somerandomhuman8405 5 місяців тому +9

      I agree 💯
      The ally is better overall
      Better dpad speakers Vrr screen software button layout quiet fans beautiful desing cheaper lighter all it needs is a bigger screen.

    • @theo5675
      @theo5675 5 місяців тому +4

      @@somerandomhuman8405I agree the ally is the best!

    • @Jhoffa22_
      @Jhoffa22_ 5 місяців тому +28

      ​@@somerandomhuman8405No it's not, y'all had a 6 month headstart bruh, we're on y'all ass after next week's update and soon to surpass you by our month 6...😂😢😂

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 5 місяців тому +4

      Armory Crate is better, but it doesn't fix the UI clusterfuck that all Windows handhelds have. I don't care that Legion Space is worse because it is impossible for either to be good.

    • @HuntaKiller91
      @HuntaKiller91 5 місяців тому +2

      Ally 2 needs to come with Ryzen 8050U instead of the rebranded 8040 as z2 chip
      My wishlist would be bigger battery 65w and 90hz OLED like the deck

  • @Lugiavsgiratina
    @Lugiavsgiratina 4 місяці тому

    This is obviously made to cater to ROG fan boys 😂

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  4 місяці тому +1

      What are you talking about? It's made to give recent results on an objective level 🤔

  • @anqwancollins3019
    @anqwancollins3019 4 місяці тому +1

    Can you shipped me a legion go please

  • @garyharris9750
    @garyharris9750 5 місяців тому +2

    LG doesn't need VRR.

    • @megakoni1
      @megakoni1 5 місяців тому

      Do we need VRR in general? It wasn't a thing up until now. We need optimized games and hardware, not cheats

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      VRR / Freesync / Gsync is no cheat. It has been around since at least 7 years and it is a game changer for people that are sensitive to that. I usually can't do without it anymore since I dirt used it in 2017, but in this case I would personally still prefer the legion go, since the Allys screen is just too small for me. It feels uncomfortable to play complex games on it. For me. Pure subjective opinion in that case.

    • @megakoni1
      @megakoni1 5 місяців тому

      We have V-Sync, that works for me@@Hubwood

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому

      Vsync is fine for eliminating the tearing. Yes. But it also has the downside of a bigger delay/response time.

  • @jackwalker2913
    @jackwalker2913 5 місяців тому +2

    Lol all the ally fan boys are mad af

    • @Hubwood
      @Hubwood  5 місяців тому +2

      No reason to be mad here for anyone 🤷‍♂️ both are great.

  • @MyName-yi4ws
    @MyName-yi4ws 5 місяців тому +1

    With two BIOS and system updates, Legion GO is already ahead (as expected) than Ally in almost every situation. With just two updates. End of the story.

  • @bandzzman1224
    @bandzzman1224 4 місяці тому

    Rog ally is the best device out right now with its VRR display and afmf every game plays like butter 🧈

  • @KT-wc6yt
    @KT-wc6yt 4 місяці тому +2

    I prefer the Asus it’s amazing 🫡

  • @Nyantify
    @Nyantify 5 місяців тому +2

    If only ROG ally doesn't destroy SD cards i would have bought one

    • @Enoc63
      @Enoc63 5 місяців тому

      It’s fixed since August

    • @jack5611
      @jack5611 5 місяців тому

      @@Enoc63 Thats just not true.My r9 unit burnt my sd card...

    • @AyumuTheTamer
      @AyumuTheTamer 5 місяців тому

      It depends, I’ve heard people that bought the ally from day 1 and have no micro sd issues… while others have a newer model and had their cards fried.
      I guess at this point it is all in the luck of the draw for ally owners🤔.
      I would not use the battery life as a deciding point either between the legion go or the ally since 20 min advantage over the other is not much. You would still need a battery bank to run these things for an extended period of time.
      I guess at this point the few things that I could say the Lenovo legion go has over the ally is the 2 c-usb ports, the fact that it has detachable controllers and no micro sd issue.

    • @Nyantify
      @Nyantify 5 місяців тому

      @@AyumuTheTamer nah i have been prowling around ROG Ally Communities/Groups and the like and have been asking around a lot of peeps and honestly i would say a huge majority of Ally owners gets their SD card fried (whether its old or newer models) in fact most of them just opted to not use the SD card slot at all and just upgrade the SSD and some are just too afraid to even use it, but there is this strange info that i come across, apparently if you use a very small sized GB SD card (lets say 30 to 60gb ish) it doesn't get damaged or so i read from users who "claimed" they haven't gotten their SD cards fried yet, welp i can't testify this claim since i'm too reluctant to even buy the Ally